40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

A bear murdered my wife

I dont wanna hear it

[late osprey]

That's verbatim the end goal of Big Bear. Ignore everything, just think they look cute.

[sly ivy]

I am taking credit 4 this discussion bc it began w my justified and extreme hatred 4 birds

[late osprey]

Except you just hate a whole group of animals. It's never justified to hate animals.

[dapper gyro]

Bear skin is warm

[storm jungle]

But you literally are doing it now

[sly ivy]

They’re not animals they’re abominations

[crystal forum]

i dont hate bears i'm just scared of them

[storm jungle]

how can we be sure Tareldar isnt in league with bears?

he seems to like them a lot...

[sly ivy]

Jay would u rather encounter me or a bear in a dark alley

[crystal forum]

he isn't un-bear-able to listen to

[dapper gyro]

Hot take, I hate panda.

They don't even look cute.

[sly ivy]

Pandas should be extinct

[storm jungle]

They look cute but thats kinda it

[late osprey]

Because fact 1: there is no non-dubious evolutionary chain for how bears even came to be here,

fact 2: I speak truths that would not be acceptable to Big Bear.

Man. I can't stand this panda-hate.

Some serious animalfoe behavior.

[crystal forum]

antifauna behavior

[storm jungle]

Okay so

[late osprey]

SERIOUS antifauna behavior.

[dapper gyro]

Panda is chinese propaganda.

[storm jungle]

im not reading all of that

but im gonna say you are in league with bears

bro is trying to trick us

[late osprey]

I promise you I am not part of Big Bear.

[storm jungle]

[sly ivy]

I can verify I’m a professional. There r only 2 well supported hypotheses 4 bear origins: the out of hell hypothesis & the punishment from god hypothesis

[late osprey]

Well, there is a third one that they are ACTUALLY a bioengineered weapon, but I don't like that one so much because it doesn't explain all of the pre-modern Menace Incidents.

At least, not without involving some extremely shaky theories.

[sly ivy]

God is the greater bioengineer

[dapper gyro]

It is

[crystal forum]

the rumors of bioweapon bears having escaped from chinese labs are unsubstantiated

[storm jungle]

God hates us because he aint us

[languid meadow]

SHUT UP ABOUT BEARS ! ! !

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

Tbh he prob wants to fuck em at this point

[dapper gyro]

It gives life to a sac of mineral for no fucking reason.

[late osprey]

You'll be mighty hoping you read more on bear lore when the time comes.

[storm jungle]

Okay jokes aside

this was funny like 10m ago

[crystal forum]

bear doctrine

[storm jungle]

but its kinda getting boring

move onto something else thats stupid

[dapper gyro]

Why do we even need to exist?

[late osprey]

I've been waiting this whole time.

[storm jungle]

To play videogames

next question

[sly ivy]

We’ve bearly scratched the surface

[crystal forum]

dilara is being overbearing

[storm jungle]

I dont want nuclear armageddon because it means I wont be able to play Darktide

[dapper gyro]

You are a bag of meat, I am a bag of meat, there is literally no point.

[storm jungle]

Shut up Dr Manhattan

GO BACK TO MARS

[sly ivy]

I like meat

[late osprey]

Explain Post-Material Episodes, then.

I'll wait.

[storm jungle]

Episodes?

like Half Life?

[dapper gyro]

Hey there, I don't enjoy being naked in public.

[crystal forum]

like star wars the clone wars

[arctic talon]

what do you guys think humans taste like

[late osprey]

They say the Third Post-Material Episode will never happen.

[storm jungle]

Hell yeah

also i mean hes right

Episode 3 is not happening

we are stuck on EP2

[crystal forum]

veal apparently

[arctic talon]

They repurposed the Episode 3 ice gun

for Deadlock

LOL

[storm jungle]

FOR DEADLOCK

YEAH

GOD lmfao

[late osprey]

I heard it was pork, or chicken.

[storm jungle]

legit fucking pissed me off

[arctic talon]

Kelvin is like

actually cool

[storm jungle]

"cool"

[crystal forum]

do people even play deadmid anymore

[arctic talon]

insufferable fucking character in that game

[storm jungle]

die

[arctic talon]

yes

its a MOBA

so yes

lol

once a MOBA has its claws in you

it will never let go

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/lash-bebop-deadlock-hook-hand-gif-12270778804137499556

[dapper gyro]

I only stayed with HotS.

Quit league back in 2010 and Dota before that.

[arctic talon]

Shame blizzard took HOTS out back

and shot it in the legs

[late osprey]

Isn't it just the worst thing ever that they scrapped the Warhammer MOBA?

Whatever will we do without it?

[arctic talon]

keep on playing League and Dota

[late osprey]

You just KNOW Helbrecht Mains would've been some of the most toxic parasites in the community

[arctic talon]

anyways Owlcat make something like Sosiel's romance on the Demon path in Dark heresy, No balls

[dapper gyro]

Nah, stab it in the throat, but didn't let it die, like in John Wick 2.

[crystal forum]

SPEAK ENGLISH

[arctic talon]

the most abusive shit I've ever seen in a CRPG

[late osprey]

Who is Sosiel?

[arctic talon]

He's the gay cleric

from WOTR

he's cute

[late osprey]

I remember getting pissed that I failed to turn the 19 Hidden Seals of Space And Time to unlock his brother as a companion

[late osprey]

In classic Owlcat fashion

[arctic talon]

also he's nice, unlike most of the WOTR companions lol

[outer wave]

Damn, my boy is gay?

[arctic talon]

he is in fact gay yes

[outer wave]

Good for him!

[crystal forum]

yes so hands off

[outer wave]

😔

[late osprey]

Seelah is the best companion, let's get it on the record.

[arctic talon]

unfortunate for him if you become a demon while romancing him 💀

[outer wave]

Oh I'm sure hes fine

Tbf most of your companions probably get fucked up when you demonize yourself

[arctic talon]

I am sure the constant abuse, gaslighting and rhymes with grape are great for his mental state

[late osprey]

Owlcat does a good job of guilting you for becoming evil.

[arctic talon]

Tbf

Demons in Pathfinder are just

extremely fucked up

lol

[late osprey]

Well, yeah, they honestly should be.

They're CE.

[outer wave]

Too bad I never got past act 3

[arctic talon]

Almost all chaotic evil

[outer wave]

I think it was act 3

[arctic talon]

except for like

A few

[late osprey]

Faction described as evil

look inside

it's just punk

Has ruined many settings for me.

Owlcat's evil is actual evil.

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

its based on Paizos Demons

which are based on the DnD Demons

Its chaotic evil all the way down

[late osprey]

Ostensibly, but in the actual source material most modules don't have the cajones to portray demons halfway like they are in WoTR

Which is ironic, because WoTR is based off of a module of the same name.

In fact, all of their games are essentially just beefed up versions of their respective modules

[arctic talon]

this is true

[late osprey]

Except apparently RT, a lot of puritans don't like the things that were changed for some reason.

[arctic talon]

RT the game is much better

[late osprey]

Not sure why they're so married to an 8 billion year old setting book, myself

[arctic talon]

the TTRPG sucked to play

lol

[rocky gale]

Annoyingly they made the RT game more like Pathfinders rules

[arctic talon]

yeah that was uh

a bit weird

hopefully dark heresy plays like dark heresy more then RT played like RT

[outer wave]

Please dont tell me I need to get a +25 modifier in order to take down things midgame in RT

[arctic talon]

Ehhhh

not really

[late osprey]

Well, Owlcat's Pathfinder games have had infamously terrible difficulty scaling.

[outer wave]

Cuz that still annoys me with WoTR, which I would love otherwise

[late osprey]

BG3 does as well, frankly

RT is nowhere near as bad.

Like, not even close.

[outer wave]

That's good at least

[arctic talon]

RT is way better

then owlcats pathfinder games in terms of like

balance

its still a shitshow but the shitshow is smaller

[rocky gale]

I've never got past the prologue for any Owlcat game

[late osprey]

It's a shitshow in the opposite direction, which is actually preferable.

[arctic talon]

Yeah its a shitshow in your favor

lol

[late osprey]

I'd rather the game become a ridiculous episode of who can get to the highest Super Saiyan level with Argenta

[arctic talon]

esp after the balance changes and nerfs to some encounters

[late osprey]

than "lmao 30% to hit fuck you"

[late osprey]

LOL

[arctic talon]

Dark Heresy hopefully will take some lessons from RT's intro portion

lol

[late osprey]

Idira, Empress of the Universe, Butcher "Heinrix" Pete, or TF2 Heavy Argenta

[arctic talon]

and not have something like the infamous bridge fight

[late osprey]

Those are your three options

[outer wave]

What happened there?

[arctic talon]

The bridge fight in the tutorial is an RNG crapshoot compared to every other encounter in the game

[outer wave]

Ngl I am a bit interested in RT, especially with the humble bundle

[late osprey]

Owlcat loves their sneaky fights. Nothing like the hallway grenadier fight in the palace backrooms.

[arctic talon]

Aside from that

every other fight is fine

imo

[outer wave]

Is it because it spawns certain enemies and thats the RNG crapshoot?

[arctic talon]

nah

the chaos spawn just has RNG

to its attacks

[outer wave]

Ohhhh

Oh nasty

[arctic talon]

aside from that you do get allies but its RNG if they even do shit

as in actually hit their targets

[outer wave]

Gotcha

[late osprey]

A lot of them are just only narratively obnoxious, like RT has a nasty habit of having fights without any warning that they'll happen

[arctic talon]

the best way to mitigate RNG in that fight is to kill all the trash mobs ASAP and then have abelard face tank the spawn

[late osprey]

Which is super aggravating if you want to actually Roleplay in your Roleplaying game

[arctic talon]

so you only have to deal with the chaos spawn and Idira(sometimes) blowing up if you use her major powers

[outer wave]

If I go heretical RT, can I befriend the chaos spawn :)?

[arctic talon]

I'd say aside from that Rogue Trader doesn't have any fights taht are like

bad

[arctic talon]

no but you do make the fight easier lol

[outer wave]

Oh cool

[late osprey]

Sorry, but the palace backrooms fight with the grenades is fucking wretched

[arctic talon]

That fight is wretched but its not RNG bullshit you can't mitigate effectively

The spawn fight is actually RNG bullshit on if it one shots poor Abelard

[late osprey]

My problem with it is that it's just sheer cheese, it's actually a problem across RPGs where it's almost like the fights are intended to be re-loaded and fought a second time.

[dapper gyro]

It is a dice game after all.

[arctic talon]

It is a dice game

but that fight is a bit too swingy

[late osprey]

"Oh, hehe, you didn't equip the anti-Thing gear before the fight? guess you just lose instantly :^)

[arctic talon]

imo

you really should have gotten another companion for it, or they should have made the allied NPCs less shit

like I get they're bridge officers but still lol

[outer wave]

Okay, lore question: can chaos spawns be disguised in any way and work their way around inside a facility a la The Thing?

[late osprey]

No, they're mindless beasts

[outer wave]

Damn

[late osprey]

Well, closest to mindless. Either way they're not doing the sort of thing you're describing

[storm jungle]

They are basically just monsters yeah

BUT

[dapper gyro]

Big but

[outer wave]

Big butt

[arctic talon]

There are some intelligent spawn in lore

tbf

[storm jungle]

Chaos is literally ust "bullshit magic" so you can just have someone "blessed" with that power instead that is unrelated to Spawnism

[arctic talon]

^

yeah that

[storm jungle]

its the best part of 40k lol

like uhh

i have a creepy chaos cultist OC gal

whos somewhat mutated but is held in check by some relic magic belt she wears given to her by the cult matrirach

[rocky gale]

Closest think you get to that is Lictors, moving around invisible, eating everyones brains and learning all the stations codes

[dapper gyro]

Time to make an oc to kill that oc.

[storm jungle]

the moment she unlatches it she just turns into some werebird monster

that kinda shit

[outer wave]

Thats pretty cool

[storm jungle]

Yeah again best part of 40k

its sci-fi and fantasy

you can always make shit up

[outer wave]

Make a werebat that fights the werebird

[outer wave]

You reminded me of that worm chaos champion of Nurgle from fantasy that I forgot the name of

[dapper gyro]

Werebat? So vampire?

[storm jungle]

Tamurkhan

[outer wave]

No, werebat

[outer wave]

Thank you

[late osprey]

"Oh, no, is that a were-Goliath Birdeating Spider (Theraphosa blondi)!??"

[storm jungle]

but yeah thats the gist of it

new shit gets invented in books all the time

its why people that really say "this would never happen" usually are being grognards unless its something actually goofy

[rocky gale]

Yea never be afraid to make shit up

[crystal forum]

do you have any guy oc's

[storm jungle]

Power-knives dont exist
I read a book
Has powerknife

[late osprey]

Bad DMs and stuff love to use lore to powertrip and control people, but they're just that -- bad DMs

[rose thorn]

Oh the old drop pods are now in HH

[dapper gyro]

Power fork to eat steak

[storm jungle]

I got tons for 40k. Im literally having another new one drawn rn

[rocky gale]

Like Starship Troopers first movie is fairly standard action comedy, then the second movie turns into a horror movie by adding in a type of bug which infects you through your mouth and takes over your brain.

[outer wave]

Wait til you see the chaotic cultist thats just a weredinosaur

[late osprey]

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is only Well-Done.

[crystal forum]

still managed to making him look lesbian

congrats dilara

[arctic talon]

who tf said power knives don't exist lol

[storm jungle]

ty ty ty

[storm jungle]

its a random example but ive seen it lmao

[storm jungle]

Yeah also 40k does this constantly too

Cawl literally just pops up

[arctic talon]

why does bro have the eldar faction symbol on his face

[storm jungle]

and has 1000000000000 Marines under mars

lol

[arctic talon]

Wait

someone actually did the math

on how many marines he shat out

brb

[late osprey]

Looks like he got branded.

[crystal forum]

least op personal inquisitor oc

[storm jungle]

He was messing with an artifact and it got burnt to his fucking face Handsome Jack style

[queen laurel]

shove this down their throat

[arctic talon]

ah thats cool

[storm jungle]

he in reality wears a mask but thats an ALT rn for later lol

[rocky gale]

Turn that face marking into the Lesbian symbol tattoo and it's literally my aunt.

[arctic talon]

calculated by the biggest Marine and Necron nerd I have ever seen

[storm jungle]

god damn

[late osprey]

72/year? Man, that puts my 1/5 years in Chapter Master Simulator to shame.

[arctic talon]

Tbf cawl had a small army of tech priests helping him lol

[crystal forum]

book figures: 10'000 marines total

[arctic talon]

its not like he did that shit alone

[opaque coyote]

40k

[arctic talon]

that helmet is wrong

[opaque coyote]

Zamn

[arctic talon]

The books never give a definitive starting number to the Unnumbered sons

[late osprey]

Also, the enchantment of britain light-speeded metallurgy 🤓

[crystal forum]

why is king arthur a weeb woman

[arctic talon]

because

FATE

[vagrant fox]

the japanese

[late osprey]

So more people look at the picture.

[rose thorn]

PWAK

[storm jungle]

again been in the fandom for 10+ years it got built up lol

[rose thorn]

Branded by his bf

[arctic talon]

Marzipan

[storm jungle]

uaaahgh

[crystal forum]

freaky

[arctic talon]

More companions in Dark heresy

Owlcat

I beg

[outer wave]

Ogryn....

More ogryn companions....

[crystal forum]

ogryn entourage

[outer wave]

Ogryntide

Imagine filling up a rogue trader ship of ogryns

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/658456771983310895/1344036922464534639/OwlcatGames_-_1631670113635115010.gif

[late osprey]

I hope DH will let you customize their initial career.

I unironically don't like that Abelard is my tank

[storm jungle]

Hes basically your adam smasher

it fits tbh

[crystal forum]

he protect

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/who-the-fuck-are-you-who-are-you-adam-smasher-who-who-tf-are-you-gif-27448902

"ABELARD HURRY, GO ON KILL THE HERETIC."

[outer wave]

He doesn't call my enemies pieces of fuckable meat, so I dunno

[crystal forum]

abelard i hurt my pinky, get the ice pack

[late osprey]

He practically becomes that, but his fluff is that he's a naval officer and an organizer.

I would like to be able to change him to be a backliner, basically

I'm more worried that they're gonna force me to use Haymar Devos as a melee character

[rocky gale]

Watch Fate, we've got King Arthur and Mordred and Emperor Nero

[outer wave]

Mordred my beloved.....

[crystal forum]

why dont they at least rename to queen arthur

[outer wave]

IIRC because of her achievements, they treated her as a dude basically

So she was always king

Not ever a queen or a woman in the eyes of the other knights or everyone else

Least, thats what I recall

Mordred is similar, though I think its more how she sees herself

[rocky gale]

Also due to the way Fate works, both King Arthur and Artoria exist in separate timelines/dimensions but both are the same person just one is actually just a guy

[crystal forum]

but queens were as revered as kings

[rocky gale]

There's also 19 different versions of Artoria

[outer wave]

Its fate, we need our hot anime women somehow

[late osprey]

It's not exactly the most coherent work.

[outer wave]

And the occasional hot anime guy

Yeah, Nasuverse stuff gets weird

[rocky gale]

Artoria Saber, Artoria Saber Alter, Artoria Lancer, Artoria Lancer Alter, Artoria Lily, Artoria Lion King, Artoria Caster, Artoria Avalon etc etc

[late osprey]

Runequest would be a good setting for Owlcat to work with, now that I think about it. The Hero Wars/King of Sartar arc would work very well as an RPG

[gaunt lily]

supposedly a bearded medieval king gacha wouldnt sell as well

[outer wave]

Well, depends

You could absolutely cater it towards the bara/bear lovers

[crystal forum]

bear?

[rocky gale]

Like I said there is a guy version, known as Protosaber

[late osprey]

Don't even get me started on bears.

[crystal forum]

bears

[gaunt lily]

missing out on a sweet burger king collab opportunity fr

[outer wave]

Of all the people, I would've thought you knew the term

[rocky gale]

Don't restart the bear conversation

[crystal forum]

did you know bears can be brown and black

sometimes white

[outer wave]

True!

Anyway bears as in the animal are cool

But yeah, just give King Arthur a nice beard and big pecs and everyone would go wild

[crystal forum]

polar bear liver is so full of vitamins that it would kill you to eat one

[rocky gale]

A bear falls from the height of 80 meters and takes 4 seconds to reach the ground. What is the colour of the bear?

[late osprey]

I thought eating liver in general was bad for you.

[vagrant fox]

liver n' onion is good 4 u

[outer wave]

I think thats if you eat alot of liver

Since its pretty rich in iron and such

[crystal forum]

like bobby hill

do you know the rules of survival for bears

depending on what type of bear they are

[outer wave]

They eat anything and everything

That can include other bears

[rocky gale]

Just ignored my question

[arctic talon]

Red

[rocky gale]

Wrong

[outer wave]

Blue

[rocky gale]

Wrong

[late osprey]

Depends on the mass of an object that has a terminal velocity of 20 meters/second.

[rocky gale]

No it doesn't

[late osprey]

Yes, it literally does.

[rocky gale]

No it doesn't

[outer wave]

I thought it was 9.81

[late osprey]

If you were a demon in a circle of salt, I would banish you to the depths of hell for that.

[rocky gale]

Nuh uh

[late osprey]

That's gravitational acceleration.

[outer wave]

Why would a demon be carrying a circle of salt around them?

[outer wave]

Ah gotcha

[late osprey]

So that people could banish them

[sly ivy]

Bears r non Newtonian

[outer wave]

Non eucleadian

[sly ivy]

@storm jungle when rename 2 40k-bear-chat

[outer wave]

Yeah, we have an itch to talk about bears

[late osprey]

It just needs to be on the record that I had no part in initiating this conversation.

[celest dome]

Have we mentioned the Psyker bear from the Tau ?

[storm jungle]

[sly ivy]

Alexander didn’t found Macedonia

[outer wave]

I mentioned it to a newbie in this server a few nights ago

Thats it

Not in this conversation

[storm jungle]

Nicassars?

[late osprey]

He didn't, that was his father.

[storm jungle]

they are based af

[outer wave]

I read that as Nerissa and thought you were talking about Vtubers

Don't ask me why I thought that

[outer wave]

Do Nicassars ride in NASCAR vehicles?

I think that'd be cool

[late osprey]

If I'm Alex, then it's clear that the Bear Matter is in the era of the Diadochi, wholly beyond my actions.

[sly ivy]

Based Anabearsis of Alexander

[crystal forum]

correct!

bears have no honor among bears

[outer wave]

No they dont, but I still find them cute looking

[late osprey]

Bear Culture can be juxtaposed with the culture of the Man-Eating Tiger, who are capable of just as much destruction upon humanity (arguably more especially in the modern era), but the Tigers have a deep sense of honor and chivalry, making their deeds noble.

[crystal forum]

did you know that romania has more bears than people

[sly ivy]

Tigers have an acute awareness of justice

[crystal forum]

and has the highest amount of bear attacks

[late osprey]

They're glory-seekers, pursuing duels against other peer combatants.

[sly ivy]

We sweep bear on bear violence under the rug

[crystal forum]

do you know what else is in romania

[late osprey]

Romans?

[crystal forum]

transylvania

[late osprey]

Oh, close.

[crystal forum]

which is where vampires come from

bears? vampires?

[arctic talon]

this is my favorite bear

[late osprey]

Vampires are known to be shapeshifters, so while novel, the theory isn't entirely absurd.

[crystal forum]

have you seen a bear reflection

[misty vector]

yesss we love arzuros

[sly ivy]

@sharp pollen is this u https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1786088762956493306?s=46

Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸 (@jacksonhinklle)

🐻🇷🇺 Russian woman dances with bear.

Just average Russia things…

X · May 2, 2024, 5:41 PM

[outer wave]

White woman

[crystal forum]

russian women do NOT fall under white girl rules

[sly ivy]

I got bearpilled by that video

[crystal forum]

they are a whole species

[late osprey]

"Amalgamation of small settlements into larger cities ("synoecisms") and the "transplant of populations from Asia to Europe and in the opposite direction from Europe to Asia, in order to bring the largest continent to common unity and to friendship by means of intermarriage and family ties."

Do you guys think Alexander the Great could've actually pulled this off?

Or was this just a wacky idea?

[queen laurel]

bro has an insane title for a goofy ass motherfucka

Bloodlust Incarnate on this honey eating goober is funny

[sly ivy]

I think that mf coulda done it

[arctic talon]

tbf the thing does maul a lot of young hunters to death because they're overconfidant

lol

[misty vector]

a fish wrote it

[arctic talon]

like yeah its the same "threat" level as assigned by the Guild to a Yian Kut Ku

but a Yian Kut Ku won't try to maul you to death

[sly ivy]

Never a truer statement

[queen laurel]

yes but in the same game there's another monster deserving of that level of edge in a title

[arctic talon]

yeah but Goss Harag is actually dangerous to people who know what they're doing

lol

[sly ivy]

wtf r these words ur just making it up like that Jabba the Hutt language in Star Trek

[queen laurel]

I'm just saying I expected bloodlust Incarnate on the ice bear that slices up people

[arctic talon]

tbh the only reason Arzuros isn't more dangerous is because of its size and how it usually "gives up"

if it was bigger/more aggresive it would be much more dangerous lol

[queen laurel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ac4Z76Ui0tQ?si=XaVs9hD95OYMykw4 you're telling me they didn't give bloodlust Incarnate to the literal bear that walks you down like an axe murderer

[arctic talon]

yes

because one got discovered first

smh

they're not gona change a colloquial nickname

[queen laurel]

it's still pretty goofy though

but you know what i will accept the name

[misty vector]

that title was probably given by a traveling merchant or something

[arctic talon]

prolly tbh

Its not like the hunters guild has a monopoly on titles and nicknames lol

[queen laurel]

he does have this version in rise

[sly ivy]

Tf is this shit

[queen laurel]

which fits the nickname way more

[arctic talon]

monster hunter smh

[crystal forum]

are there rats in monster hunter

[arctic talon]

tbf the Deviant one from MHGU also prolly applies lol

[arctic talon]

yes

a lot of common animals from irl exist in monster hunter

Pigs, rats, horses, parrots

[queen laurel]

yeah the ones that get super old and evolve to be bigger and tougher yeah

[arctic talon]

Rathalos and Rathian could also be considered rats considering the fact you find them FUCKING EVERYWHERE

also paolumu kinda looks like a rat/bat thing

lol

[sharp pollen]

i dont want to say my opinion to this so bad things dont happen to me

[misty vector]

a rat would be cool

[arctic talon]

an actual giant rat would be cool yeah

[misty vector]

could be an early game scavenger type monster

[arctic talon]

prolly be a fanged beast

[misty vector]

i still hope we get a lobster someday thatd be sick

[arctic talon]

no crabs in MHwilds why even live

ig I should be happy we got a new Temnoceran

[misty vector]

we got other creepy crawlies

[arctic talon]

yeah

Lala Barina is cool adition

no new big Neopteron tho

[misty vector]

and the squids are sick (though i think nu udra could be improved)

[arctic talon]

yeah the Cephalopods are neat

Nu Udra is like fine imo

[misty vector]

design wise i love him

[queen laurel]

we did get Rakna-Kadaki

[arctic talon]

the Arch Tempered version and Master rank version are prolly gona be more interesting

[queen laurel]

in rise

[arctic talon]

thats a Temnoceran

iirc

[misty vector]

though in combat they just tend to slap you with their arms

[arctic talon]

since its spiderlike

[queen laurel]

oh yeah spider type

[arctic talon]

Honestly what else would Nu Udra do

ig use the oil and fire attacks more

[queen laurel]

i like zu wu

[arctic talon]

let it spray oil with the tentacles like it does with the grab/fire wall

[queen laurel]

the assasin octopus

[misty vector]

xu wu

[arctic talon]

Xu Wu is fun

[queen laurel]

yeah the octopus with blades

[arctic talon]

Surprised they didn't make it the apex predator

of Wyveria

[misty vector]

probably too small for that

[arctic talon]

ig

[queen laurel]

ok wow

[misty vector]

very cool how it can keep up with the guardians

[queen laurel]

big Neopterons are like

non existent

[arctic talon]

There's barely any big Neopterons yeah

Ahtal-Ka and Seltas Queen are both cool as hell

Ahtal-Ka being the final boss of GU is a good subversion of expectations

its just a neopteron except she's insanely smart and uses a bunch of tools to kill you lol

and also a giant dragon mech

what an idea for a fight lol

[queen laurel]

That giant dragon megazord is in the same world as this affront to God made by humanity

Insane world building

[arctic talon]

tbh I'd like to see Ahtal-Ka again

but with a different Ahtal-Neset design

the concept art of the "naturally" built one and other Neset's is neat

[queen laurel]

i do like the fact the reason they became so dangerous is just like us they learned that this material is better than the other one

Because wooden mechs are dangerous but not that bad

[arctic talon]

tbf its so smart it understands how to use weapons

[queen laurel]

Metal ones however

[arctic talon]

its like by far one of the most intelligent monsters lol

[queen laurel]

that's where you shit your pants

[queen laurel]

Yeah and it's not even in the top of the verse because it's nest literally can be melted with a single blast from a fatalis

MH world is genuinely insane

[arctic talon]

skill issue

elder dragons are cheating

smh

[sly ivy]

Tf is that

[sly ivy]

Now u gotta

[arctic talon]

A good series of games

[sly ivy]

Does it have a story

[arctic talon]

Yes

Mostly speculative biology and conservation stuff

Ironically

Because the gameplay is a huge grind and you kill a bunch of monsters

When in story it’s a lot more rare to hunt monsters

[sacred ginkgo]

Monster hunter is a series that has survived since ps1 and became mainstream since then

Really fun

You just go and hunt monsters

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The story isn’t that important

But the worldbuilding, story and lore are cool tbh

[sacred ginkgo]

Also similar questions such as

“How the hell do mountains still exist in Pokémon”

[celest dome]

Cause some pokemon go around and raise new mountains

Geography/cartography is a very different job in the pokemon world

[dapper gyro]

It is a world with pokemon strong enough to create islands... Just let it be.

[sacred ginkgo]

Me when the mailman gets to my door and my dog starts going insane (there will be a climate disaster of unprecedented magnitude)

[arctic talon]

Tbh it’s not like there’s that many monsters that could destroy a mountain that want to

[sacred ginkgo]

Yeah but there’s also the 16 other ones responsible for their own unique climate disasters

[arctic talon]

True

Mostly elder dragons though which are rare as hell

[sacred ginkgo]

And somehow around every corner

[misty vector]

id be more worried about the camel that eats houses

[young pecan]

Despite how much they want you to care

[arctic talon]

Look we need an interesting game

[arctic talon]

I do actually like the lore of monster hunter lol

[misty vector]

sunbreak and wilds stories were pretty good

[arctic talon]

I agree tbh

[misty vector]

not like peak writing but it was interesting

[arctic talon]

Risebreak and wilds had actual good stories

[dapper gyro]

I think I've seen this sentence here before. Maybe a deja vu.

[arctic talon]

My only complaint for wilds is the mandatory walking sections lol

[misty vector]

sunbreak def more than base rise

[arctic talon]

Tbh for a first serious attempt at making something story heavy I’d say it was fine

[arctic talon]

Mmmm qurio

[misty vector]

and the janky cutscene system from world thats really annoying for multiplayer

[arctic talon]

oh yeah that thing is annoying as fuck

I think the DLC or next gen 6 game will probably nail it story wise

assuming we don't just go back to minimal story(which is also fine and I literally don't mind)

lol

[sly ivy]

That’s not a story that’s just autism

[arctic talon]

but my first game was monster hunter 4U

[sly ivy]

(Not derogatory)

[misty vector]

i doubt it, looking at world/iceborne there is def another large story coming

[arctic talon]

so ig I can't even comment on the like weak story thing

bcs 4U prolly had the most comprehensive story of the old stuff lol

[arctic talon]

oh for sure

tbh even the title updates have progressed the story a bit

though not by anything noticable

[misty vector]

though absolutely shouldnt make the amatsu story social media only again lol

[arctic talon]

LOL

that was

a choice

Look Capcom was uh creative for that if anything

[misty vector]

very silly

but yeah dlc story could be very good

[arctic talon]

I'm not betting on anything, I just want the MHWilds sourcebook

to not be only in Japanese

They did it with World

but then Iceborne and Risebreak were japanese only

again

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/i-may-not-have-a-brain-gentlemen-but-i-have-an-idea-monsters-vs-aliens-blob-monster-i-may-not-have-a-brain-gentlemen-but-i-have-an-idea-gif-27360547

[arctic talon]

Oh I saw one

https://youtu.be/o9H5DyHNsIk?si=kYUGW2Cc9e4QXlmH

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

He stole my idea

[late osprey]

Think you've got a case there

[rocky gale]

Stealing me idea before I even had it, that's next level

[crystal forum]

idk why people dont like the grey knight walker thing

it looks unique

it's hard to believe but 40k is actually starting to make me enjoy mechs

[vagrant fox]

cause it looks gay

you know

[rocky gale]

The exposed hanging Marine is pretty goofy

[arctic talon]

tbh from a lore perspective ig its because its not like more armor would help against a greater daemon

[crystal forum]

is this goofy

[rocky gale]

Yes

[crystal forum]

no

it looks cool

[rocky gale]

Keep telling yourself that

[crystal forum]

is this goofy https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/jamescameronsavatar/images/3/3b/AMP_Suit_Update.png/revision/latest?cb=20230101223917

[rocky gale]

Also yes

[crystal forum]

it lets you see the pilot

[vagrant fox]

i don't like any of these

[crystal forum]

how they strain when they move

[sacred ginkgo]

This one actually makes sense because its just a forklift

[crystal forum]

it's not just a walking machine but it's a vehicle

[sacred ginkgo]

It doesn't need to look good or have armor

[crystal forum]

and it looks awesome

i have more

is this goofy

[rocky gale]

The answer may surprise you

[crystal forum]

i cant believe how our opinions differ on this matter

i will be upset for the rest of the evening

[rocky gale]

The answer was yes btw

[crystal forum]

like a gunshot wound to the heart

[arctic talon]

Also crazy how much better saturnine looks

without those stupid fuckass shoulder pads

[dapper gyro]

But exposing all of the load bearing joints is still a big negative.

[wet sandal]

this is far more goofy that the grey knight's one

[crystal forum]

here's what it looks like so you guys dont have to watch the video

[dapper gyro]

The knight can't even swing to protect those weak spots.

[crystal forum]

it does look better without shoulder pads

[dapper gyro]

Plating is there for a reason.

[crystal forum]

very beefy

[vagrant fox]

That's propa noice

[arctic talon]

idk I think it looks better then the normal dreadknight lol

[crystal forum]

i think it's too different

both are nice to me

[wet sandal]

thats a good thing in this case

[arctic talon]

it is very different

tbh

[crystal forum]

the saturnine looks like a brawler melee

[arctic talon]

I think the dreadknight could look good with a few small changes

in anycase GREY KNIGHT REFRESH NEXT EDITION

!!!!!

[crystal forum]

isn't that next year

or even more

[arctic talon]

yes its next year

well

• a few weeks

lol

[dapper gyro]

Even if they give GK the centurion, it is already a big improvement.

[crystal forum]

we're already approaching 11th?

[arctic talon]

we're almost 2 years in yeah

Editions are 3 years

[crystal forum]

man now i know what you all feel like

[storm jungle]

Hold on, this is kinda fire???

[arctic talon]

Pete is like

a really good conversion dude

also is apparently really nice irl

lol

[crystal forum]

words cannot express my sorrow

i am in deep love with the avatar suits

[storm jungle]

the avatar RDA tech is great imo

because like

it looks "realistically boring"

[crystal forum]

i love that the guns arent part of the suit

[storm jungle]

the AMP for example is just a apache cockpit on legs

its a very believable mech design

[arctic talon]

he made a nurglite treelord

[crystal forum]

they feel like modified industrial mechs

[arctic talon]

that was really cool

[storm jungle]

yeah exactly

even the guns

Literally just a barrel with a stock

gets the job done lol

[crystal forum]

i only remember the giant m60's from the first movie

those were cool

[storm jungle]

yeah they are built around one iirc

[arctic talon]

also this derranged lion conversion

was also kind of

uh

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

BASED

[arctic talon]

meth filled

Lion if he was raised by Ulthwe

I belive is the idea behind it lol

or something along those lines

[crystal forum]

the movie is very vietnam war inspired

[arctic talon]

in any case he does some absurd conversion work

[storm jungle]

its vietnam war/slaughter of native americans

[arctic talon]

one cannot call him uncreative lol

[crystal forum]

that giant ship at the end of the movie with the sandbag fort on top

god the tech was so good

[storm jungle]

Yeah its all almost re-purposed shit

again "boringly-realistic"

its a great aesthetic

[crystal forum]

i loved zoe saldana in it

[storm jungle]

googles

[arctic talon]

also the grotsnik conversion is cool

even if it looks uh

nothing like grotsnik lol

[crystal forum]

the hispanic girl

[storm jungle]

who

[crystal forum]

she was in so many early 2010's action movies

she was the heli pilot

[storm jungle]

Lmao NO

thats the fucking-

whats her name, generic hispanic actress

uhhh

Michelle Rodriguez

girl's career is "sure ill be in the movie idgaf"

[late osprey]

@arctic talon Do you know if Joytoy's figures can be taken seriously as first-hand sources for marine patterns?

[crystal forum]

why did google give me the wrong girl

i googled avatar hispanic woman

[storm jungle]

damn

racism

[arctic talon]

Regarding how they look? Imo yes they're like very accurate to the blackbook diagrams + miniatures + color plates

there's some minor differences but w/e

its about as good as most art

imo

[late osprey]

Word, there's blood angel bladeguard that has gold pauldron trim and it's like

[crystal forum]

she was in so many movies

[late osprey]

the ONLY blood angel bladeguard canon

[storm jungle]

yeah shes what i call a paycheck actor

literally will take any project of any quality tier lol

[arctic talon]

@crystal forum ice warrior sentinel for you because you like Vallhallans don't you smh

[storm jungle]

shes been in the industry for also like

[arctic talon]

Do they seriously not have any

[storm jungle]

30+ years

[arctic talon]

in the big wide codex shots

💀

jeez they don't lol

yeah this is accurate as far as I can tell, gold helmet, normal BA color

[crystal forum]

it looks good but i've been spoiled by custom printable valhallans

[arctic talon]

only thing kinda weird is the trim but w/e

[arctic talon]

reasonable

gold trim makes sense though

[late osprey]

the kicker is the bladeguard are the ONLY ones with the gold trim, so i had to make sure

its literally like that factory meme

"guess we be having gold trims now"

[crystal forum]

she's like danny trejo

[storm jungle]

Okay so

Trejo like

puts actual effort

and is legit a great guy

[arctic talon]

The rest of the Blood angel PA vets

don't have gold trim

[storm jungle]

Michelle is just... there

[arctic talon]

but ig bladeguard do for uh

[storm jungle]

she exists

[late osprey]

yeah

[arctic talon]

idk reasons

[storm jungle]

and plays the same character in everything

lol

[late osprey]

Guess we be having gold-trimmed bladeguard!

[crystal forum]

i love that he will take literally any offer

as long as he plays the bad guy

and he dies

[storm jungle]

Yeah the whole "teach kids/people crime doesnt pay"

which is really funny and great lol

especially since iirc hes an ex-convict which adds another layer to it

[crystal forum]

he was genuinely good in breaking bad

[storm jungle]

Hes good in everything hes in imo

[arctic talon]

bro gets his head chopped off

lol

[storm jungle]

he legit has so much nice energy

[arctic talon]

in breaking bad

[storm jungle]

lmao yeah

again when he plays criminal characters thats in his contract

[arctic talon]

danny trejo in the 40k project/j

[crystal forum]

most older zoomers prob remember him from spy kids

[storm jungle]

SPY KIDS LETS GOOOO

[arctic talon]

Its the first thing I saw him in so yes

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/machete-danny-trejo-knifephone-i-phone-i-knife-gif-3481326

[crystal forum]

surprisingly doesnt play the bad guy

[storm jungle]

Ironically

he only started in hollywood because he was typecast as a "rough" looking guy lol

[crystal forum]

he makes a good mexican uncle type character

[storm jungle]

he was doing bodyguard work iirc in the studio and someone just went:

"Hey, hey you, you want a role?"

lol

[dapper gyro]

The actress lives on Fast and Furious paycheck.

[arctic talon]

look

people love fast and furious

[storm jungle]

no

[arctic talon]

its easy money

[storm jungle]

death

[arctic talon]

I've never watched one

lol

[crystal forum]

apparently he would take a role in literally any project if you were to come up to him and ask. even tiny home movies

[arctic talon]

so I wouldn't know

[storm jungle]

I learned today that Bautista turned down a role in FF

because he wanted to actually act

LMFAO

[arctic talon]

I mean

yeah

LOL

[storm jungle]

I love him honestly

what a guy

[arctic talon]

Bautista is a really good actor

tbh

[late osprey]

We've been watching Bautista's career with great interest

[storm jungle]

Lmao thats great

[late osprey]

He's got shocking range despite Hollywood's attempts to typecast him

[storm jungle]

Yeah he said so awhile ago

he turns down a lot of stuff for typecasting him

[crystal forum]

i learned it in a red letter media video lol

[arctic talon]

He was so good in Glass Onion

tbh

[late osprey]

Bro can't be chained into "strong imbecile"

[crystal forum]

also is vin diesel a good guy

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

kind of

[arctic talon]

iirc he's got a big fucking ego

[storm jungle]

hes fine, he just has an ego, thats kind of it

[arctic talon]

but aside from that he's normal

yeah

[storm jungle]

Yeah that

[arctic talon]

he's not like a dick to people on set

[vagrant fox]

Esposito and Trejo are straight up the only good parts of Fry Cry 6 it's wild

[storm jungle]

hes just a bit of a dipshit, not a malicious person

[late osprey]

Dune was probably an exception only because of the fact it was Dune

[crystal forum]

i wish the riddick movies came back

[storm jungle]

Same

[arctic talon]

tbf Rabban isn't strong

Rabban is supposed to be pathetic

[storm jungle]

Yeah he sells Rabban well, hes a manchild

[arctic talon]

^

he didn't get typecast as Rabban imo

[storm jungle]

the moment he sees real combat he dies, you'd never see most big actors do something like that

[arctic talon]

Rabban explictly isn't a dumbass either

[crystal forum]

esposito is trapped into playing gus for the rest of his career

[late osprey]

The archetype that of a brutish bully, which I thought also described who he was in the book

[storm jungle]

Its a shame honestly

as long as hes happy with the role i guess

[arctic talon]

like Rabban isn't smart

but he's not like

wrong one

[late osprey]

He's not the other guy

[arctic talon]

[crystal forum]

he has a wide range it does suck a bit

[storm jungle]

Yeha exactly

especially if like

you look at his WAYYY earlier pre-breaking bad roles

[arctic talon]

Esposito is being typecast now

rip

[storm jungle]

Yeah again as long as he doesnt mind i get it

[arctic talon]

he does like playing those types of characters

[storm jungle]

but i doubt he isnt bored of it

[arctic talon]

like explictly

but I do wonder how he feels about doing so many

[storm jungle]

Yeah if he was tired of them he wouldnt take it i wager

[crystal forum]

it's like christopher lee being forever the evil character even though he had incredible range and talent

[arctic talon]

good point

[storm jungle]

god you reminded me

where the Hammer dracula movies like

literally blackmailed him to keep playing Dracula

to the point that Lee refused to speak IN THE ENTIRE MOVIE

[late osprey]

Brad Pitt be like "Yeah, I only ever want to be a grizzled American WW2 soldier. Please only give me those roles."

[crystal forum]

lmao

i learned the other day the lee was fluent in like 5 languages

[storm jungle]

yeah they threatened to fire studio workers if he didnt keep playing the role

[storm jungle]

hes lierally Him

[crystal forum]

his french is immaculate

[storm jungle]

he has some crazy lore

[late osprey]

Christopher Lee was also involved in the secret world.

[rocky gale]

Never forget when Lee was getting advice from Peter Jackson on "How to die" and Lee just responded "Have you ever seen a man die? because I have"

[crystal forum]

he knew the sound of being stabbed in the back

[late osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRVQD4FKPrY

[crystal forum]

didn't elaborate

[storm jungle]

He was a WW2 commando iirc?

or like a spy

[late osprey]

He was a commando yeah

Also the rightful heir to the Throne of Charlemagne

[storm jungle]

yeah that

[gaunt lily]

he was a lot of things

[storm jungle]

He legit like

completed life

lol

[late osprey]

He was really a renaissance man, even had his own band

[arctic talon]

Lee is interesting

[crystal forum]

he's like the stereotype of an early 20'th century british gentleman i love him

[gaunt lily]

he was the main character, we just live in the post credits sequence

[late osprey]

He IS a knight

[crystal forum]

didn't divorce a single time in his entire career

i wish more actors were like christopher lee

[storm jungle]

thats my favorite trope

I look up actor wiki for some random tidbit

I curiously look to the side of the screen

shows they divorced/married like 4-6 women

[late osprey]

"The actor married his third wife, saying 'She is my soul mate. I will love her until the day I die, I have finally been healed'.

6 months later, she divorced him."

[storm jungle]

REAL.

Like id feel bad

but its another rich actor-person

so lol

[late osprey]

It's funny to me because the person I remember that literally happening to was fucking Kanye West

He wrote like 8 songs about Kim Kardashian

[storm jungle]

Lmaoooo

well it is Kanye so

no man really SHOULDNT have all that power

🫡

[late osprey]

As additional consolation, most of those celebrity relationships are just PR schemes anyway

I get the sense of all the failed ones, only a tiny amount of them actually result in broken hearts anyway

[sly ivy]

Rich person aah vibe

I truly can’t imagine how one could be happy in a life like that, no matter how wealthy

[languid meadow]

F451

[storm jungle]

"gangbang" is blocked i think

[storm jungle]

it makes me more pissed off tbh

I had some relatives divorce and im like

[young pecan]

Sounds about right

[storm jungle]

"Why the fuck did you guys even bother then"

lmao

(im totally not annoyed more due to teh fact that i was forced to go to these weddings)

[sly ivy]

Were they wealthy or just bad @ marriage lmao

Weddings r fun

[storm jungle]

Honestly idk probably both

[mossy peak]

how large is the terminus est

[sly ivy]

5

[storm jungle]

16 or 17km in lenght

[mossy peak]

thats like half the size of a gloriana how did the shadow of the emperor lose to that 😭

[storm jungle]

Here it is next to the Mourningstar

[storm jungle]

plot bullshit mostly

and uhhh as per the lore:

"Well its an older prototype so obviously more OP"

lol

[wet sandal]

the mourningstar is pretty googoogaga as far as ships go

[storm jungle]

Its still pretty formidable

but as Master Qui-Gon says

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-theres-always-a-bigger-fish-the-phantom-menace-gif-15951236

[arctic talon]

The terminus est is also like

Nurgled up

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

Being a bigger ship in 40k ironically isn’t always better

[storm jungle]

when you got a daemon ship it can essentially do any bullshit

[arctic talon]

Because torpedos

Eat

Big ships for breakfast

[storm jungle]

Drill torpedo to the warp-reactor

[arctic talon]

Like explicitly it’s a huge problem for gloriana’s

[mossy peak]

not during the drop site massacre

[arctic talon]

The terminus est is like

Smaller but that doesn’t mean it’s weaker

People vastly overestimate Glorianas

lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah and again a bigger ship doesnt mean better

lol

[arctic talon]

Glorianas are explicitly horrid

On their own

They’re a force multiplier

[storm jungle]

yeah theres a reason escorts exist in like

actual IRL naval shit

[arctic talon]

Except a Glorianas escorts are big

lol

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP

[arctic talon]

I don’t get the weird hardon

People have for Glorianas

You read their lore and your realize

Damn this shit sucks lol

Glorianas are ultimately showpieces and tools of ego

Not the best combat ships at all

They’re a massive force multiplier, morale tool and threat in a fleet

But if it’s alone it’s kind of uh fucked

If you turn to do a broadside

Good fucking luck dodging torpedoes lol

[mossy peak]

big ship go brrr

[arctic talon]