#40k-lore-chat

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opaque coyote
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I will be sent to the front lines and die

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I am not soldier material

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I would be the type to somehow accidentally punch my superior

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Like I trip and punch him by mistake type of shit

dapper gyro
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You can do support trade, lol.

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Not everyone needs to be at the front.

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People watched too much publicity with guys doing hardcore PT in the military, lol.

opaque coyote
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Currently working for a computer engineer major

dapper gyro
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Guess what, logistic is as important as the guy shooting in the front.

dapper gyro
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Intelligence, drone ops, supply tech, etc.

opaque coyote
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Also said Krieger OC basically has a Samus Aran type situation

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She's a woman. You can't tell

dapper gyro
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Even a cook

opaque coyote
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So everybody assumes she's a he

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And she just doesn't bother to even correct them

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Like the gas mask also masks (ba dum tss) her voice

dapper gyro
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Sound like one of the episode from Halo Legends.

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Babysister episode

bright yew
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The babysitter?

opaque coyote
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Clothes + flak stuff makes it so that no specific shape beyond "Yeah that's a human person" is recognized.

bright yew
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If I remember the spartan was cal 141

opaque coyote
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No real reason for thus

dapper gyro
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Yes

opaque coyote
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I just like having a quirk for shits and giggles

rose thorn
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Found someone with prices I like and an art style I like who has done warhammer

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I might ask them on my alt about it

dapper gyro
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One of the strongest Spartan 2.

rose thorn
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The com

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Oh rheu have discord

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Awesome

bright yew
opaque coyote
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I had the idea of the OC originally being from a different guardsman regiment

bright yew
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It’s like a “why I can’t die”

opaque coyote
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She got brain damage and lost her memory.

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A Krieger scavenger found her alive.

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Decided to bring her back because extra cannon fodder is good.

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Joined the Kriegers purely because her dog tags were gone, she had zero memory, and they needed an extra gun.

rose thorn
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have to wait for them to accept friend request

bright yew
# bright yew My Krieg just doesn’t care about his life nor his name or has a reason to live o...

On the other side, Kate was not a cadian form birth and was adopted by a commissar, she became a kasrkin alongside his stepbrother Gabriel (who views her as his little sister)

She wanted at the beginning to prove that she was worthy of being a cadian and wanted to prove herself in battle and make her missing mother proud

During the recidious campaign (sm2) she nearly got corrupted by the obelisk in demerium but got saved because Titus inverted the device at the end of the campaign

When she found 625 (my kriegsman oc) sometime after the sm2 she fell in “love” and gave him a name (Jonathan) and wants him to have at least a reason to live

rose thorn
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idk i might just message their twitter after a day or so

fossil current
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What is arbities armor made out of? Is it ceramite? Standard flak? Plasteel?

bright yew
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I think its made of plasteel but im not that sure

fossil current
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Cool! I like their whole deal. Only use their armor in RT

dapper gyro
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It is a carapace level platsteel.

arctic talon
queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Carapace is more of a level of protection than anything.

crystal forum
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gotta love how assassins can kill people without breaking a sweat but they struggle hard against a small group of soldiers in an actual fair battle

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imagine if space marines and assassin temples worked together

dapper gyro
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Assassin has carapace made of heavy duty plasteel or even ceramite, which is lighter while providing same level of protection.

crystal forum
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afaik they wear super advanced bodygloves. their resilience comes mostly from their augments and training, but they die easily if you actually manage to hit them

opaque coyote
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Y'know something that I wish was tackled more was uh

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Superman and Lex Luthor being old childhood friends

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I'm weak to that type of stuff, it's why my favorite villain is Two Face.

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Also Arkham Shadows has probably the best version of Two Face, with the entire story centered around Bruce's and Harvey's relationship. Easily a peak story.

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Too bad it's VR so I will never be able to play it.

opaque coyote
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All you can do is watch as they ruin their own lives and they just...

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become somebody else.

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Unfortunately experienced that myself.

opaque coyote
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but is it the same for Human PA

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I honestly thought of a weird inbetween type of thing with Powered Carapace.

dapper gyro
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Heavy duty plasteel is plasteel combined with ceramite.

bright yew
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It looks somewhat similar to sob armor

opaque coyote
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Salvaged PA from Fallout NV

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Where the NCR reuses stripped down PA. Stripped down because the soldiers don't have the training, but the armor is still good.

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I imagined a similar thing for the Imperium

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An inbetween of sorts.

dapper gyro
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There is ceramite armour for the guard.

opaque coyote
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Also I always wondered how they explained away PA Training. Like I know it's a retcon.

But I always thought "How the fuck does Nora wear power armor?"

dapper gyro
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Except that it is much thinner than only considered at flak/carapace level.

opaque coyote
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Since Nate (AKA Male Sole Survivor) was an Ex-Soldier.

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Makes sense that he knows.

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But Nora is a lawyer.

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I think PA Training is still there in lore?

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Just kinda not a game mechanic anymore

bright yew
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Nate is the canon one if i remember

opaque coyote
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They should've made Nate/Nora a Commander Shepherd type of situation

dapper gyro
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Nah

opaque coyote
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Where they're just genderswapped versions of the same... person(?)

bright yew
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Nah

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Its bethesda man

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They use the same broken engine since the 2000s

opaque coyote
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Honestly I think Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 (on some level) have the best atmosphere.

Gameplay is uh... I definitely prefer Bethesda's by a mile.

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It can be fun, but at the same time, there's plenty of XCOM aahh situations

dapper gyro
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Story wise, it doesn't matter that much if you don't think of the character back story.

opaque coyote
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I said this yesterday

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and I will say this again

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Why didn't they keep the VATs ability to shoot people in the groin

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smh

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I definitely think Fallout 76 (lmao) has my favorite Vats system.

dapper gyro
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😑

opaque coyote
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It's basically real time, but you can still select body parts. So it's no longer a "Get out of jail free" card type of thing.

dapper gyro
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I thought you got some inner madness... Turn out it is inner gooniness...

opaque coyote
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Also because shooting people in the dick is funny.

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Especially if you have a fucking minigun

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Those poor poor raiders...

bright yew
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76 was the worst waste of time i had xd

I spent so many hours from here to there wandering

opaque coyote
bright yew
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At least i managed to launch a nuke

opaque coyote
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At least enough to actually have a consistent playerbase

bright yew
opaque coyote
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Yeah, I think FO4 is probably the most boring exploration wise for me tbh.

bright yew
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I dont know how it was during its launch but they say it was horrible

opaque coyote
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"Oh yeah, the devs probably did this in 3 hours of sleep. They probably haven't seen their kids in months."

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I am curious enough to play it someday since like... how did they manage to drag themselves out of a dumpster fire.

noble bear
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and fallout 1+2

bright yew
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Im know the lore of fallout but i dont like the gameplay

I feel like its not for me

opaque coyote
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Because personally the gameplay of 3 and NV is kinda a bit jank

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Especially 3

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4 has alright gunplay but the RPG element got fucking gutted

queen laurel
sacred ginkgo
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They actually referenced that idiot

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Seriously

queen laurel
late osprey
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It's hilarious that the one example is Obiwan.

crystal forum
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literally the best named character in the entire setting

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i hope he's the main character of the amazon series

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there is no way that skin tight power armor is not soft retconned at this point

queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Power armour without plating is a power suit.

late osprey
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They should also return to the Ultramarines Chief Librarian being a half-eldar.

median star
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are iron halos permitted to say inquisitors or is their a human sized equivalent

plush mason
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they have a Rosetta that has a refractor field generator so thats basically the same afaik

plush mason
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yeah that

celest dome
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Iron Halo need Power Armour iirc

plush mason
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iron halos also have refractor fields right

celest dome
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Either of

bright yew
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The ones the sisters have are just decorations

celest dome
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There is an Inquisitor that had one iirc

arctic talon
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But a non marine could have something that looks like an iron halo

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I don't think we have a name for the non marine version of the decoration

crisp heath
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Might be a stupid question but if the great crusade went the way big e planned ,Were the astartes supposed to be culled after the great crusade similar to what happend to the thunder warriors?

celest dome
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We're not sure, but quite likely

dapper gyro
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Maybe not culled, but phased out.

crisp heath
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Thanks guys

dapper gyro
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They still need something to fight vs necron and other unknown.

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Though, it could also be making the guard stronger.

arctic talon
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The Emperor was already planning on replacements for the Marines

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the Raptor Program and the Selenar's original iteration of the Primaris program

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were both potential marine replacements that were, Sabotaged and never got implemented respectively

crisp heath
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Man that's grim as heck , even his primarchs?

arctic talon
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Guilliman administration
Magnus golden throne
Dorn Build things
Perturabo Build things
Lion Murder people
Russ Murder People

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Angron and Curze were insane and the emperor was likely going to kill them off the moment the great crusade finished. Corax has too many moral conflicts even during the great crusade, and Khan isn't loyal enough

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if Lorgar hadn't gone down the chaos rabbit hole he would have been left alone but if he did and the heresy didn't happen he'd also be on the chopping block

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the emperor pretty much planned to purge the entire Mechanicum as well post great crusade

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and was already setting up the pieces for it before the Heresy broke out

crisp heath
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That's actually crazy hitting new game after all that

arctic talon
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The only thing he was going to keep was the Imperial Household

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which were under his and Malcadors direct control

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its likely even custodes were on his "let them die out" list

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since the Emperor explictly did not want transhumans involved in his "new" human empire

arctic talon
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Prolly on the phase out list

crisp heath
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I can see why the imperium is so bad heck , I always thought the custodes would be the ones culling tbh

arctic talon
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they'd naturally die to attrition over time as his body guards

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he could just stop making more

crisp heath
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Ah

arctic talon
crisp heath
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That makes the most sense

arctic talon
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or the emperor would have turned the Imperial army + Solar auxillia into a more dedicated military force

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ultimately we don't know how he was going to purge his "problems" post heresy

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just that he was going to

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the great crusade was ultimately concerned about removing any potential rivals and securing territory rather then reconnecting humanity

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is the big thing tbh

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Its why the terms for joining the imperium were harsh so that they'd reject it so they'd have an excuse to just glass the planet

crisp heath
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So he was just kind of manipulating everyone from the start ?

arctic talon
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The Saturyne ordo and Mechanicum basically got tricked

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The integrated warlord and tech guilds had no choice so they had to just go along

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with whatever the Emperor did

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in any case the Emperor ironically got extremely lucky the Mechanicum did not want to fight a war

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because if they did then his plan would have been fucked

crisp heath
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Considering the titans they have I wouldn't want to go to war w them

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*the mechanicum

wind zealot
arctic talon
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Also the great crusade exterminated pretty much every peaceful and benign xenos society

crisp heath
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I was just gonna say they did alot of genociding

wind zealot
arctic talon
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Because it wasn’t a greater good

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His idea to kill chaos by starving it would have failed

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Explicitly

crisp heath
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Do u guys mean the tau?

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Oh nvm

arctic talon
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the Tau hadn’t even evolved then likely

crisp heath
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I saw greater good and thought tau

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My bad

arctic talon
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Beyond just trying to justify the genocide of trillions if not quadrillions of humans alone lol

wind zealot
arctic talon
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Then what is the greater good you’re claiming to exist

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lol

wind zealot
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In any case, in-universe it's what the emperor believed in.

arctic talon
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Yeah and it was a failure

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Explicitly

wind zealot
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because that's the setting

arctic talon
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Well yeah

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The plan to starve chaos was flawed because the emperor didn’t truly understand chaos

wind zealot
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which is why I don't see what's the point of crucifying the emperor for shitty writing

arctic talon
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I’m not

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?

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I don’t even think he’s written that shittly tbh

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You can see why he’d draw the conclusions he made

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And why he’d do the things he’d do

wind zealot
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nah, he's terribly written, immortal super genius and then he gets slapped with a giant idiot ball

arctic talon
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Not really

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He’s not much of an idiot imo

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Emotionally unintelligent sure

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But not in terms of actual intelligence

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At the end of the day I don’t think about justifying the emperors actions because with the way FW and black library wrote the great crusade and heresy

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There’s nothing to justify

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The imperium being evil from the start is a decision that I kind of disagree with along with heresy so closely resembling 40k but whatever. That ship has sailed lol

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The imperium being so needlessly cruel and brutal is part of the fun for 40k. The imperium is absolutely awful and it’s great

celest dome
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Is that person trying to say the Emperor did the right choices ?

median star
arctic talon
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Idk, likely let him craft stuff

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Ferrus was loyal

arctic talon
median star
# arctic talon Idk, likely let him craft stuff

think that couldve driven some divide between him and vulkan seeing as he always went to vulkan for making his funny gadgets or you think they wouldve wouldnt hold a grudge over something like that

sturdy sedge
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I doubt Manus would care that much. He ain't Peter Turbo or Horace

arctic talon
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I think Ferrus and Vulkan would just ignore each other tbh or get along

median star
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were their any specific brother manus disliked besides obv curze

cinder pivot
arctic talon
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He really did not like Perturabo

sturdy sedge
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Angron maybe

median star
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i thought he was kind of just indifferent pretend he doesnt exist to pert

arctic talon
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He thought he was a whiny bitch who never stated his wants and desires and never self improved

sturdy sedge
arctic talon
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According to the black books he explicitly thought Perturabo was a bitch

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I’m paraphrasing a bit

sturdy sedge
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He was

median star
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that is p funny tho

arctic talon
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lol

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Also Horus

sturdy sedge
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Rly?

arctic talon
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Yes

median star
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suprised lion liked him

arctic talon
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Though Magnus was his only friend

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Lion thought Perturabo was efficient

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And good at his job

crisp heath
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They respected him

arctic talon
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Yeah

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Vulkan did actually like Perturabo

crisp heath
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I didn't know that

arctic talon
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Though it’s never elaborated on

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Beyond a single fucking line

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From the black books lol

crisp heath
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I always liked perty

median star
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did khan and curze have any specific or notable interactions

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would khan speed be able to out manover his precognition

arctic talon
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The night lords and dark angels fought

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a lot

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In terms of black book conflicts and the newer libers

median star
arctic talon
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I think they’re by far the most

median star
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khan

arctic talon
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As for why? Idfk

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If you can I highly recommend reading the black books

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If you can get them

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They’re by far the best source of heresy lore and it’s not even close

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They’re like way better then the heresy novels

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Despite being rulebooks

median star
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i knew abt the lion stuff was asking abt khan as i hardly know anything abt khan and white scars tbh

arctic talon
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Ah

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For khan uh

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They really didn’t do much

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I’m ngl

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But khans novels are really good

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His whole thing was he was loyal to the emperor due to his strength and vision(big empire)

median star
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how far after the siege was it that curze got got

arctic talon
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But they fought the alpha legion mostly

arctic talon
median star
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wonder if theyll do something w that w the new scouring series

arctic talon
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We know quite a bit of his death tbh

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Since it’s shown in the night lords stuff

sturdy sedge
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Cruze was plagued by visions of horrible future his entire life. So when he was visited by assassin, he pretty much let her finish him off.

median star
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curze but w the butchere nails ez

lofty mason
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Are there any regulations in the IoM regarding who can own armed warships?

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Mechancius operates warships independent from the Imperial Navy, following its own agendas. Kind of similar to Rogue Traders.

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Or, is it leaning towards something like:

"Do you hate Xenos?"
"Are you owning this ship and use it to further the interests of the God Emperor?"
"If both of these answers are Yes, you may own a warship."

sour hornet
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So do Arbites, and Astartes.

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And many other organizations

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Do not get large enough to draw concern from the Navis Imperialis, or Mechanicus Fleet, and you're good

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Consolidation of forces, aka being able to do many things by yourself, is frowned upon as a concept.

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The Administratum doesn't want anyone having an independent fleet large enough to cause problems. Rare exceptions notwithstanding.

storm jungle
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Yeah warships arent given willy nilly

green loom
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It's probably best to think of it mainly split into the main Navy and then Merchant navy

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And then all the different faction fleets are typically their own things

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This is I think how most "average" imperials get ships

barren prawn
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i feel like im thirdwheeling a date

sharp pollen
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i think we need to bomb the Craftworlds

rocky gale
hallow saddle
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100%

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lock em all up for meddling

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this post was brought to you by Dorf Gang

sharp pollen
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btw, if ogryns are not represented, why GW dont want to represent them even more

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i think FS at least asked GW if they can make female ogryns

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most likely GW just said no

celest dome
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Cause making female Ogryn would be a spicy subject that GW doesn't see any positive return from it

sharp pollen
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thought about that also

sharp pollen
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tbh yeah, ugly fat women... that would be a blast...

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i already have heard like 3 times from different ru streamers who were new to darktide who saw Zola for the first - lmao she's ugly, or lmao so many females in 40k

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i fucking cant man

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i just wanted to be happy seeing my mates learning about 40k and enjoying cool darktide gameplay...

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(even tho they like the gameplay)

sly ivy
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Literally no one would care it’s not a spicy subject

sharp pollen
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if they would be in books - who knows

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but... actual designs...

outer wave
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Are people really that weird about women in 40k, much less uglier women?

hallow saddle
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yes, chuds are

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chuds get super upset that there are women in games who arent modelled purely for sex appeal

sturdy sedge
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i dont really care cuz its goddamn horde shooter

sly ivy
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Bruh ogryns are supposed to be ugly

dapper gyro
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Either no women camp or full goon camp.

sly ivy
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U don’t understand the nuances of the chud mind

outer wave
dapper gyro
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Barely in between

sly ivy
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No one would have a problem with ugly female ogryn

sturdy sedge
sly ivy
dapper gyro
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I'm a hate watcher of 40K. Only care of it so I can slap the brain dead hardcore fans.

sturdy sedge
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bruh

sly ivy
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Chuds have no problem with horrible female ogres in fantasy or with grotesque witches or even with weird hairy female dwarves. Female ogryns would be uncontroversial and cool

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Also big giant booba

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I rest my case

outer wave
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We need our ogryn BBWs.....

sly ivy
sly ivy
fossil current
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I hope in dark heresy you can play a krieger or a steel legion guardsmen.

arctic talon
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Unlikely to be those specific regiments

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As a guardsmen turned acolyte prolly

fossil current
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Rogue trader has a guardsmen option, I just wanna be a funny gas mask slayer of Xenos

arctic talon
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Dark heresy is likely to be much much much less of a power fantasy

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Tbh

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Esp with fear and shock

fossil current
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Being a guard is hardly a power fantasy. It has character customization, no reason to assume it wouldn’t have similar backgrounds

arctic talon
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I’d assume they’ll pick much less prestigious backgrounds

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Compared to rogue trader is my point

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criminal rather then crime lord Ect.

fossil current
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Sure, and being a krieg or steel legionary is hardly prestigious. Las guns shovels and flak

arctic talon
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Again it won’t be a specific regiment

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It’s too limiting imo

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It’s just going to be a generic imperial guard background

celest dome
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It's like people asking for Krieg/Armageddon personalities in DT

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You'll probably have some cosmetics themed on them

arctic talon
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Tbh

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We got the cadian personality

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Which imo kind of set a bad precedent but whatever

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Also where did the shovel thing for krieg start from

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Like I know it’s meme lore

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But does anyone know an origin point for it lol

fossil current
fossil current
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No?

celest dome
arctic talon
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Mark 8B3-5 Filter gas mask yes

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Put it on

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It looks like the dkok hemet

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Don’t argue with me on random obscure shit in RT I’ve played the game too much

celest dome
arctic talon
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I c

fossil current
arctic talon
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It literally is

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It’s just stylized

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It’s also got its own filter

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Because it’s not connected to anything

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But the helmet and mask itself are literally the krieg helmet

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If you consider the Darktide helmet accurate then this one is also accurate

fossil current
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Yea, you prolly right

arctic talon
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the only thing really off about the helmet is the eyes

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but thats mostly due to the fact they're reused an asset from an existing gasmask

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its got the metal bits, the helmet is correct

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there's like 4 different DKOK helmet designs now anyways

fossil current
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Fair, fair. I actually didn’t know about about this mask. A krieg commisar is now a totally doable run thanks to you. You do the emperor’s work

arctic talon
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np

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oh also iirc the mask does work with the hat

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I could be wrong

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but it works with some other stuff

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The Original art from 2e, the Forgeworld helmet, the newer helmet, and also the darktide helmet/Rogue trader eye lens exists now as well

fossil current
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Does the helmet still show?

arctic talon
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the command squad medicae has the round eyes

arctic talon
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I've never used it beyond messing around with it

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I usually play with helmets off

fossil current
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I use the arbites helmet for my current run because 12 gauge works on demons

arctic talon
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ngl

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I hope Dark heresy has the old "Lore" Stat system

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where its split between, Common, Nerd shit and Forbidden

fossil current
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I have such high hopes for dark heresy. The companion roster looks absolutely fantastic

queen laurel
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So it's probably going to be rather

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Just about us consistent as ork tech in launch

fossil current
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I grew up on Bethesda games

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Even if it crashes every hour and stutters like a cartoon pig, I will play it to death

queen laurel
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I respect the grind

lyric lagoon
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i love bethesda slop

fossil current
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My favorite part of every Bethesda game is actually

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Sorry I crashed, couldn’t finish that post

lyric lagoon
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the best part is turning it off

sly ivy
arctic talon
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ngl I have a complaint

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which is no Marshal or field commander

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the lord comissar + comissar are neat

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but its a bit redundent to have both in one command squad lol

sly ivy
arctic talon
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I agree

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Marshal should get a mini like the Castellan

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lol

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same with the catachan colonel

sly ivy
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Also generic horse leaders

arctic talon
sly ivy
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Krieg horse leader man needs to be buffed

arctic talon
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In Legends?

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he's always been ass lol

sly ivy
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No

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The new one

arctic talon
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Oh Dreir

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yeah he's a melee booster

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in guard

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bro was cooked from the start imo

sly ivy
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Ya like y he have 3 orders give him 2 or a range extension and make his weapon d2 and give his pistol ap or something g

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Man is a lord marshal and has an Amazon basics laspistol

outer wave
arctic talon
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Catachans melee is ass

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tbf

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its just less ass then the rest of guard

outer wave
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Exactly

arctic talon
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lol

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if Dreir could lead Ogryns

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then that would be nice

sly ivy
#

Tau tier melee

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Except they have Commander Fortnite or whatever he’s called with the big sword

arctic talon
#

lol

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Guard players making fun of Tau melee in 7e was always funny as shit

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because they were almost as bad melee wise

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the death of initiative and the old WS system has made Tau melee less awful

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along with guard

arctic talon
#

Ironically the big losers of the death of the old melee system were Marines, nids and eldar lol

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Marines and eldar especially

sly ivy
#

elves sad me happy

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simple as

humble shoal
storm jungle
#

LMAO

humble shoal
outer wave
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40k related or just the format?

storm jungle
humble shoal
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The second one

outer wave
#

Nice

storm jungle
#

gonna be yoinking that

sharp pollen
#

ive heard tau stink

crystal forum
#

they smell like cows so yeah

sharp pollen
#

rebreather stays ON during sex

humble shoal
#

The mech stays on during sex

sharp pollen
#

cant argue with that...

sly ivy
#

hhhhhhhh

sharp pollen
#

how do they look like

humble shoal
#

No idea

rocky gale
#

All Saturnine again

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But more expensive since it's not in the bundle box

storm jungle
#

its the beakie epidemic all over agani

sharp pollen
rose thorn
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‘There’s nothing left’

arctic talon
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Preorder now

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Or something idk

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lol

sly ivy
#

Beakie marines look extremely fucking stupid (I get why rogue trader used that aesthetic but we don’t do the RT aesthetic anymore) and people only like them bc of artificially constructed nostalgia.

…. Ok I’m done now

rose thorn
#

My partner just likes birds and thinks it’s cute

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I think the Templar helmets look fucking stupid

plush mason
#

too real

sly ivy
#

Also ew who likes birds

rose thorn
sly ivy
#

🤢

forest orbit
sly ivy
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Birds are the lamest animals

rose thorn
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Bruh they FUCKINH FLY!!!

sly ivy
#

They’re so dishonest you have no idea what’s under those feathers

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It’s this like wrinkly pink disgusting mole rat ass

rose thorn
#

😭 mf conspiring against birds

rose thorn
sly ivy
#

and then they put all the pretty feathers on 2 hide THE TRUTH

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Wake up sheeple

sly ivy
#

If u shaved me I would look mostly the same!!!! Ok that’s not true I’m really hairy

rose thorn
#

Mammal supremacist

sly ivy
#

But I wouldn’t look like this shit

sly ivy
rose thorn
sly ivy
#

Yes they are to reveal the TRUTH

rose thorn
crystal forum
rose thorn
crystal forum
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fur isn't all shed at once

rose thorn
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They have a special oil their skin makes that removes loose feathers

rocky gale
#

Imagine having a little crow pal

rose thorn
#

Ever been to a barber

crystal forum
#

not my cats 😔

sly ivy
#

Birds need to come clean

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See - sphinx cat. Acquired taste maybe but elegant. Smooth. Looks fine.

rose thorn
sly ivy
#

Plucked bird

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Absolute horror

storm jungle
#

and had like more intelligence than some humans

rocky gale
#

Both

sly ivy
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Both can and I am as smart as at least one crow so f you

arctic talon
sly ivy
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No

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I could outsmart one

crystal forum
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one is too fat the other is too old

queen laurel
rose thorn
crystal forum
sly ivy
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Its not their skin

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That’s bird propaganda

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They’ve captured our institutions

rose thorn
#

You shed skin, they shed feathers

sly ivy
#

Their skin shows their true selves.

They shed feathers AND skin

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I shed hair and skin

rocky gale
#

Kubrick stare ass bird

sly ivy
#

but you can see my skin bc I have nothing to hide

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They have everything to hide

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They’re just waiting for their time

crystal forum
#

beaks are gross

sly ivy
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THANK YOU yes

rose thorn
#

What are those birds that look cute but shove babies onto spikes

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I like them

sly ivy
#

Finally someone who isn’t a birdpilled sheep

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shrikes

rocky gale
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Jesus christ, it eats monkeys

rose thorn
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They are adorable

rose thorn
sly ivy
queen laurel
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What's that one called again

sly ivy
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Monke is higher on the scala naturae than bird

rocky gale
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Shoebill

queen laurel
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Yeah that's the one

queen laurel
#

They sound like a gta lobby every time they slam together their beak

rocky gale
# queen laurel Oh it's the bird that sounds like a machine gun

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storm jungle
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those birds are based as hell

sly ivy
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Birds are forever resentful toward mammals

storm jungle
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An animal is an animal, you dont see them firing white phosphorus at each other like we do so they get a pass

arctic talon
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Idk I saw an animal do that in monster hunter/j

storm jungle
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BRUH

vagrant fox
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cringeass beetle

storm jungle
#

Bro has an inbuilt MG42

rocky gale
#

Shrikes are messed up, they eat meat but don't have beaks or talons strong enough to kill their prey so they impale them onto spikes and sometimes just leave them there to eat later.

storm jungle
#

basically me tbh

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

next

sly ivy
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Birds would but they don’t have thumbs

rocky gale
arctic talon
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Don’t they let the meat like

storm jungle
sly ivy
arctic talon
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“Soften” a bit.

vagrant fox
storm jungle
queen laurel
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I don't know man i really think this one should not get that much of a pass

sly ivy
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Anyway point is it’s Stockholm syndrome if u as a mammal like birds

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Motherfuckers terrorized us for millions of years

rocky gale
#

Stockholm syndrome is fake news

arctic talon
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Evolution isn’t perfect

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It’s good enough

sly ivy
#

Yes it is

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It produced me

arctic talon
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That’s the real answer

late osprey
#

The only real menace to humanity are bears.

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And hippos, but especially bears.

sly ivy
#

That is true but they r also based af

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Whereas all birds are cringe

late osprey
sly ivy
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They’re literally the Eldar. Sad remnants of a fallen empire

arctic talon
#

💀

late osprey
arctic talon
#

Deadliest thing alive

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

Humanity must be the #1 killer of humanity, not mosquitos

rocky gale
sly ivy
#

Literally else

storm jungle
#

Arent bear related deaths literally in 1 digit

sly ivy
#

Eldar

late osprey
late osprey
#

The third point can't be stressed enough

storm jungle
#

mfer its a bear

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💀

arctic talon
#

lol

late osprey
#

Yes, bears are malicious

storm jungle
#

I doubt it

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bro is legit bearcist

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i thought this was a meme

late osprey
#

You would be, too, if you actually looked up the nature of bear attacks.

arctic talon
#

Tbf some animals can be malicious lol

late osprey
#

They are uniquely unprovoked and motivated. Like, they will go out of their way to attack a human nowhere near them, and then just walk away

storm jungle
storm jungle
#

feels the same vein as shark "attacks" lol

sly ivy
#

Bears are bastards

late osprey
#

Sharks attack because they're blind idiots, bears are neither blind nor idiotic

arctic talon
#

Iirc black bears and polar bears are actually predatory of humans

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But grizzlies aren’t

late osprey
#

And polar bears

rocky gale
#

Dolphins are the real evil, they're the sharks of the sea

arctic talon
#

Yeah

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Dolphins are like actually evil

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lol

sly ivy
#

Ok shark attacks also are literally attacks because they want to eat us the whole “hurr durr they think we r seal” is overplayed

storm jungle
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Me when i go to an animal's territory and get bitten

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"its the animal's fault"

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🦈

sly ivy
#

The whole BUT THEY SPIT US OUT is literally this

late osprey
#

That's the overwhelming condition for a shark attack, them being dumb idiots.

sly ivy
#

No

queen laurel
late osprey
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Prove it.

sly ivy
#

It’s our territory

storm jungle
#

says the human btw

sly ivy
#

All of the universe is human territory

storm jungle
#

Back to 4chan

#

🗣️

sly ivy
#

And after that it’s mammal territory

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No birds sharks are kind of based they can come

late osprey
#

Considering provoked animal attacks as a reason is sheer lunacy, obviously if you scare an animal out of their mind they're gonna attack. Going "But it bit me" is, likewise, menace-tier behavior

storm jungle
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No offense but like

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this is legit the most dense argument ive seen ever

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So uhhh have a minecraft bear, i aint gonna engage with this

late osprey
#

You'd be best served doing your research on bears, instead.

queen laurel
#

We were talking about birds and now we're debating on how humans attacking animals leads to some universal truth

sly ivy
queen laurel
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Or vice versa whatever the health

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I'm going to go ahead and play team fortress or something

sly ivy
#

Humans attacking animals was the dawn of modern consciousness

late osprey
forest orbit
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🫡

sly ivy
#

So true

forest orbit
#

its not the most far he hasnt reached yet tbh

late osprey
sly ivy
forest orbit
#

"bears are evil"

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okay go advocate for it then

late osprey
#

Bears are, but that has absolutely nothing to do with what happened then

forest orbit
#

and not debate with people on it in a 40klore channel

late osprey
#

It's really betraying your immaturity to do that.

forest orbit
#

Riiiight KEKW_ogryn

sly ivy
#

Eli my brother are you taking this conversation seriously

queen laurel
storm jungle
sly ivy
forest orbit
#

JailTime 🧢

queen laurel
sly ivy
#

I am always serious

storm jungle
#

Right

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anyway yeah move on already

sly ivy
#

Good talk lads

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I’ve learned who is an avian sympathizer and who is a true mammaliamorph

late osprey
# sly ivy 🫡

Your villainization of sharks is a breach of the ethical principles.

sly ivy
#

Cookie cutter sharks r kind of creepy

late osprey
#

They do not know what they do, they're wholly innocent.

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Maybe if human surfing techniques weren't so aggressively seal-like, these things wouldn't happen

sly ivy
#

….. r u actually a shark

Surf seal mistake is fake news

late osprey
#

"I cannot believe I was confused for a seal" - Man, wearing a seal costume and paddling on the surface like a seal.

late osprey
sly ivy
#

Ok good I can get behind that bc birds r unnatural

late osprey
#

If that were true, falcons wouldn't be loyal companions.

sly ivy
#

…..

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…….

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They’re just

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… maybe they’re biding their

late osprey
#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falconry Read 'em and weep, animalfoe.

Falconry is the hunting of wild animals in their natural state and habitat by means of a trained bird of prey. Small animals are hunted; squirrels and rabbits often fall prey to these birds. Two traditional terms are used to describe a person involved in falconry: a "falconer" flies a falcon; an "austringer" (Old French origin) keeps Eurasian g...

sly ivy
#

We don’t know they aren’t a stoat and 4 rodents in a suit

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No stop

late osprey
#

Killing rodents is quite literally their primary usecase in the service of the House of Man

sly ivy
#

Nooo birds bad

late osprey
#

So they can't be rodents in a suit, no rodent would slay one of their own.

sly ivy
#

There’s this book the Hatchet guy wrote about running the Idit… idita… the Idiocracy that big dog race up north

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And he talks about seeing a chipmunk like weirdly jerking around

rocky gale
late osprey
#

Iditarod, one of the coolest sports in the universe

sly ivy
#

And then he gets closer and a squirrel is eating it

late osprey
sly ivy
late osprey
#

Clearly, the squirrel was starving after being trapped in the snows of Alaska and was in a hunger-induced frenzy.

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I bet you he lived out the rest of his days in regret.

sly ivy
#

It’s frozen solid

#

Standing up

vagrant fox
#

Squirrels don't have the capability for morals or regret in their feeble nut addicted minds

late osprey
#

Except for heinous breaches in the ethical principles, like cannibalism.

sly ivy
#

HEY I have morals and regret despite that

vagrant fox
#

violating ethical principles is part and parcel of living to survive

late osprey
#

Squirrels, can, in fact, feel sad about stuff.

late osprey
storm jungle
#

Oh my god

#

are we still going on about this shit

late osprey
#

Humans uniquely have a demonic urge to break them.

sly ivy
#

Lmao Dilara

storm jungle
#

"I advocate for all animals"

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"Anyway this one is evil"

rocky gale
#

They've moved onto cannibalism now

storm jungle
#

All arguments about ethnics move to cannibalism

sly ivy
late osprey
#

I was very particular in what I said, I advocate for all NATURAL CREATURES of the WORLD

sly ivy
late osprey
#

Humans can advocate for themselves.

sly ivy
late osprey
#

So can cyborgs, since they have computer brains.

rocky gale
#

I would posit that having a computer brain would make you an android

crystal forum
#

what if the brain is partially augmented

forest orbit
sly ivy
late osprey
#

I'd posit that such pedantry is exactly the sort of thing Animalfoes would use to justify their villainy.

queen laurel
languid meadow
#

Me I'm malicious

crystal forum
#

like a brain that has artificial stores of memory but all the emotional processing is still human

late osprey
rocky gale
#

A Cyborg is a human with mechanical enhancements sure, but if your brain is fully mechanical you're not really a cyborg anymore

sly ivy
crystal forum
storm jungle
#

okay you have to be trolling right

#

for god sakes man lmao

sly ivy
#

Twinks r natural bears r GMO

late osprey
#

It's important to understand that Big Bear has conditioned us via such subliminals like Yogi Bear, the Minecraft Bear, and all other bear-esque media, into thinking they're just "one of the animals".

storm jungle
#

I think the Emperor created them as a prior advancement to Thunder Warriors

late osprey
#

When it couldn't be further from the case.

sly ivy
#

Bears walk on two legs like man. This is forbidden.

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It is also why birds must go

late osprey
crystal forum
#

i saw a bear in a shady alley once. who knows what they're up to

queen laurel
late osprey
crystal forum
#

i was told i would be punished if i did

sly ivy
late osprey
#

My condolences.

crystal forum
#

the policeman had bear like qualities

late osprey
#

Bears are uniquely able to break into people's houses casually.

vagrant fox
#

bears and whales(evil) are artificial constructs probably yes

storm jungle
#

mfer its a fucking open door

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LMFAO

late osprey
#

They break down the door.

storm jungle
#

YEAH NO SHIT

late osprey
#

To murder the people inside and burglar their belongings.

storm jungle
#

"Huge animal breaks down entrance point"

#

Murder?

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Bruh

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okay seriously

#

this has to be a meme right

#

I actually am wheezing

late osprey
#

Obviously a creature that size CAN break down the door, it's the fact that they are WILLING to that's so sinister.

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They're also one of two (2) animals that are blatantly bulletproof.

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At least, for a first shot.

storm jungle
#

No thats me

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I was hungry at the time

sharp pollen
#

What is this joe rogan dangerous animal obsession convo

languid meadow
#

humgy

sly ivy
#

No it’s true I saw a National Geographic about polar bears once and this one had broken into this inuit lady’s house and then she shot it and then she said and I quote “I think questioning their origins right now would be a fools' errand, but it's pretty obvious that they are neither natural nor of this world.” True story.

storm jungle
#

its pretty funny tbh

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just roll with it

vagrant fox
#

Not wrong tbh

sly ivy
sharp pollen
#

Shoot bears

storm jungle
#

I saw a bear man a attack helicopter

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chat is this true

late osprey
#

The other animals, boars, have some equally evil qualities, but at the very least we understand that they're literally just climate-mirrors.

storm jungle
#

"evil qualities"

#

boar

#

💀

sharp pollen
#

Grok bear real

storm jungle
#

whats next

#

snails?

crystal forum
#

boars will not replace us

storm jungle
#

we are on our way out

#

😔

vagrant fox
#

Bears have conspired to make crossbreed mutts called pizzlies that're stronger and larger to kill people

sly ivy
storm jungle
late osprey
# storm jungle chat is this true

Bears mercifully can't fly yet, but there was exactly 1 case where a group of hunters had to fight off an encroaching menace of polar bears while waiting for actual helicopter exfiltration.

storm jungle
#

you had me going but like

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the "flying" bit was a bit too on the nose

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you should have said something like uhhh

#

"they will develop cybernetics in caves and wage war on us"

late osprey
#

That part is actually only slightly embellished.

storm jungle
#

Yeah im sure it is

#

anyway uh

#

have you ever tried DMT

late osprey
#

I've never had any mind-altering source except for alcohol before in my life.

crystal forum
#

when pigs will fly is not just an expression

storm jungle
#

Pigs will enter an alliance with Bears

#

and also Boars

#

they will form Porkurspigia

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and take over our nations

#

🫡

vagrant fox
#

Dolphins are sort of genuinely evil too

late osprey
#

That's not entirely unlikely where they both roam, in Eastern Europe.

vagrant fox
#

They have their caves

crystal forum
#

pigs can eat human flesh

storm jungle
#

Yeah its good for getting rid of-

#

I mean yes fucked up

storm jungle
#

THEY ARE HERE ALREADY

#

YOU'RE NEXT

sly ivy
crystal forum
#

on their illegal boar rafts

late osprey
#

Boars can literally destroy cars in a charge, and are immune to shotguns. BUT, it cannot be stressed enough that boars are still natural creatures.

#

They're just the ultimate reactionaries.

storm jungle
#

Okay but like

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no shit

#

"animal charges when threatened"

#

what next

#

animal eat when hungry?

storm jungle
#

Also damn thats cool, stealing it

crystal forum
#

i dont charge when threatened

storm jungle
#

you charge money

#

you damn furry

#

gimme some of those dollars

sly ivy
crystal forum
#

that one was good dilara

late osprey
#

That's what I thought at first as well, but boars will charge into places they have no business doing so, like a parked car on the side of a freeway.

storm jungle
#

Okay uhh

#

I gotta go visit my relatives downstairs

sly ivy
#

It’s even made by u europoors

storm jungle
#

if this convo is still going by the time im back I hope yall enjoy your bear-boar takeover theories, i wish to read them

crystal forum
#

have you seen the video of the giant boar in china

storm jungle
#

🫡

rocky gale
#

On a more interesting topic did yall see the new Blue Avatar lady

sly ivy
late osprey
#

It's all fun and games until a bear wanders into YOUR town and breaks into YOUR house.

late osprey
queen laurel
rocky gale
sharp pollen
rocky gale
#

and she's evil too

sharp pollen
#

susgryn i can fix her

#

whoever she is

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

are the fins part of her head

#

I've literally never watched any of the avatar movies

#

all I know is there's giant blue people in them

rocky gale
#

It's a headdress

dapper gyro
#

Mod is gone, time to goon.

arctic talon
#

ah

rocky gale
#

She's part of a new tribe

arctic talon
#

I c

rocky gale
#

The Fire Navi

dapper gyro
#

What do you mean bad take?

arctic talon
#

you do not need to announce to the channel

#

of your desire to goon

dapper gyro
#

Have I ever posted any pictures about it? I just state what the channel usually does.

late osprey
#

This but 40k somday

storm jungle
#

Finally its over

crystal forum
#

the bear discussion?

storm jungle
#

perhaps

#

guy went from bear murder to sayng we are lucky bears can use doors

#

jurassic park ahh

crystal forum
#

did you know bears can run faster than you

sly ivy
late osprey
sly ivy
#

Horses r in league w them

late osprey
#

There's no actual escaping a bear if it decides to try to murder you. Only one thing's walking away alive in that instance.

crystal forum
#

quite a sight to see something so big run so fast

storm jungle
#

Is it possible to learn this power...?

sly ivy
#

Illegal throttling

late osprey
#

Unless you have bear spray that works properly, I guess.

storm jungle
#

Is it also true that like

late osprey
#

But they're selling less and less effective bear sprays over the years.

storm jungle
#

bears use their mouths to eat things

#

pretty fucked up if you ask me

late osprey
#

They won't wait for an animal to die before eating.

storm jungle
#

You mean to tell they kill things?

#

How can they even do that

late osprey
crystal forum
#

im glad you asked dilara

#

they have very sharp teeth

#

and incredibly strong bite force

storm jungle
#

Very interesting, I didnt know this.

#

I assumed they just eat beetles

misty vector
#

and cute little ears

crystal forum
#

black bears do mostly eat plants