40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

If only 40k had blood bowl

...

[arctic talon]

The Dwarf with the giant book filled with the rules of nuffle

[opaque coyote]

Wait does it

[arctic talon]

I would kill for a goofy 40k sports game

like bloodbowl

you have no idea

Bloodbowl is great but I don't love any of the WHFB factions as much as I love the AoS and 40k ones

[opaque coyote]

Same. Sounds fucking funny.

Bloodbowl is based off of what sport

Or at least the closest analogue

[arctic talon]

American football

The God is Nuffle

[opaque coyote]

Would make sense if 40k's is based off of actual football/soccer

[arctic talon]

the great god Nuffle setteled all conflict

Nah

it needs to be a violent sport lol

[opaque coyote]

Especially since Orks are literally British Football hooligans

[arctic talon]

Hockey

was the one I was thinking of for 40k bloodbowl

its distinct enough

[opaque coyote]

True

[arctic talon]

the sport is violent and physical

[opaque coyote]

A 40k sports mini dimension somewhere in the warp.

The residents there are eternally stuck playing hockey

They say that many ships get permanently stuck there. Even within the webway

[arctic talon]

I would kill for an AoS version of bloodbowl as well

thats just bloodbowl

but with the AoS factions

they could get a lot more insane with team rules

in AoS and 40k is the big thing

[opaque coyote]

What would a 40k bloodbowl be called anyways.

[arctic talon]

depends on the sport

tbh

[opaque coyote]

Let's say Hockey

Stick Bash?

[arctic talon]

BloodCup

Keep the blood thing

Football(american) big final thing is called the superbowl

[opaque coyote]

Why, does Khorne sponsor the events?

[arctic talon]

Stanley cup is the big NHL thing

[arctic talon]

No

because bloodbowl is bloody lol

The game is very literal in its name

the playing field will be covered in blood

[opaque coyote]

Honestly thought of changing it to like

Idk

Viscera Cup

Or something

[arctic talon]

Black Orcs(without goblins), Orcs, chaos warriors, Chorfs and Ogres

are all murder teams

as in they want to beat the shit out of you ASAP

[arctic talon]

I feel like the blood part of bloodbowl is iconic

[sour hornet]

Is that Gotrek and Felix?

[arctic talon]

No

It’s an elf and dwarf who are both extremely biased referees you can bribe

lol

[sour hornet]

Oh

Peak

[rose thorn]

Oooo, hmm whats anotehr high action sport they can rip off, i was thinking basketball would be funny but a bit hadnicapped

for like

dwarves adn stuff

or hey acn just harrypotter

that uh

thing

[arctic talon]

Hockey

Just hockey

The sport is so violent lol

[rose thorn]

oh yeah lmao

what pole arm should my kurnothi oc have

andwhat metal goes well with pink and cyan?

[crystal forum]

rose gold

[winter vessel]

I was gonna say a Bardiche but I need to check if that was a Glaive or a polearm

[rose thorn]

if a metal at all

same htinggg

something taht is mildly spear like

[crystal forum]

https://www.nextdaybullion.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Pink-Gold-Rose-Gold.webp

gold mixed with copper

[rose thorn]

my sylvaneth and kurnothi hunter clan are on the moon

[winter vessel]

I’ve seen a truck have this type of paint job

[crystal forum]

extremely gay

[winter vessel]

Honestly with how dirty and matted it look it kinda looked like skin

And it was a woman driving it

[rose thorn]

okay yeah probably a spear like thing

somehting that mkaes sense in uh

this pose

[crystal forum]

dwarf fortress taught me that gold is the one metal that can only lose value from additional alloying

since it's the metal that is most valuable in its purest form

[crystal forum]

could go with a pointy sword

like a longer version of a rondel dagger

[rocky gale]

A classic polearm, the dagger

[plush mason]

Glaives are polearms btw

[plush mason]

i would say something like a partisan or a poleaxe would work for that pose

a glaive would also work

[arctic talon]

Gold and silver both go well

[rose thorn]

ooo good point

hmm am i happy wiht the spear?

it proabbly wont fit liek this

eh its fineeeeee

[rose thorn]

gold and sivler does scream space age

[rose thorn]

le tme try that

[crystal forum]

wanna see an actually freaky polearm

[rose thorn]

\lmao

[crystal forum]

it's called the plançon

it's essentially a long baseball bat with spikes

it's meant to bash people with

[rose thorn]

"wow a great artist on twitter with great prices recommedend by a content creator i like!"
checks posts

[crystal forum]

how bad is it

[rose thorn]

its diapers

[crystal forum]

lol

i thought you meant nazi posting

kinky people always have the cheaper prices

idk why

[opaque coyote]

Probably because of demand being lower?

[winter vessel]

This be the damn spiral brush women use for their hair, lol

[cyan merlin]

What’s the most underrated weapon in the imperium arsenal

[crystal forum]

gamma pistol

or heavy bolt rifle

objectively the cooler new age bolter design

[cyan merlin]

Gonna be real I forgot about the HBR

It IS So cool though

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/8/8c/Gamma_Pistol.png/revision/latest?cb=20171006021142

The heck does this do

[rose thorn]

shoots radiation

[dire loom]

It shoots, sah.

[winter vessel]

Does a banger job on SM2.

[opaque coyote]

Demon core gun

[rose thorn]

i need to know if my com ref sheet is ledgible or not

[opaque coyote]

My favorite

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

Honestly

That fucks

So hard

As a design

In terms of character, it basically screams "FUCK YOU" to anything it's pointed at

[dire loom]

🗣️ ADD IT TO DARKTIDE!!!

[opaque coyote]

Also holy shit technically that is a stock

[winter vessel]

Like. I envision one of those scenes in action movie. Where the guy using it has a poker face and is just firing it from the hip, just walking like he owns the battle

[opaque coyote]

We finally got a Bolter with a stock boyz

[dire loom]

I joke but yeah cool bolter.

[opaque coyote]

Gonna be controversial here.

...

Not this design specifically

Would definitely love a heavy Bolter for the Ogryn class though

[dire loom]

several people are typing intensifies

[opaque coyote]

I mean hey if we have an Ogryn running the fucking armory. Surely we can have one of ours use a Bolter.

[dire loom]

True

Give em some good bolt guns.

Don't they have Ogryn bolters or is that not a thing? Any lore reasons to why or why not?

[crystal forum]

can pierce a hole in a bunker network

yes i said network

plural bunkers

also i made a printable prop which you can download for free

shameless self promotion

[storm jungle]

Its largely a tabletop thing

theres nothing stopping an ogryn from using a heavy bolter

[crystal forum]

they're prob too dumb to use actual bolters

plus guard doesn't have access to tons of normal bolters

even if they have a shit ton of heavy bolters and even storm bolters for some reason

[outer wave]

Nah I dont think they're too dumb as so much as they're too rough

Ripper guns and the like are built to be sturdy weapons for Ogryns, because they either fire the guns to the point they melt, or use them as impromptu melee weapons

[crystal forum]

i havent seen many people ask for a storm bolter for ogryns in darktide. it would actually still work for the guard

there's pintle mounted storm bolters on leman russes

[opaque coyote]

I guess apart from the usual Ogryn probably ending up losing them

Or using them as a bashing tool

[storm jungle]

Yeah the universal acceptance of "every ogryn is dumb and cannot operate anything complex" is very silly.

You literally just pull a fucking trigger lmao

also like, if they can operate a heavy stubber they can operate a bolter, its literally just a heavy firearm

[outer wave]

Yeah, I mean, our ogryns in Darktide know how to uncock the Ripper guns when you examine them in game

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats also a good point lol

[opaque coyote]

I think it depends on the type of Ogryns

But our Ogryns are smart... well relatively anyways

[storm jungle]

Yea also like

its a gun

its not hard to teach people how to shoot one

https://tenor.com/view/gun-shoot-army-smile-gif-16169825

[outer wave]

I'd say reloading and how to manage/clean it is where it gets tough

[storm jungle]

Yeah and even then its not like ogryns being stupid is genetic

you can just take your time like teaching a toddler and manage it

[outer wave]

I dunno, the discord user with the Imperial Guard pfp told me that they're basically walking carrots and that they need constant orders

[storm jungle]

[cyan merlin]

From passively exploring the lore online I’ve found most people would prefer the ogryns of Darktide to be the lore-accurate level of intelligence

[storm jungle]

Yeah and they are stupid.

can you imagine a match where its nothing but just Brawler

NOSH NOSH NOSH

SAH SAH SAH

Literally the worst

[outer wave]

Yeah, its a more realistic way of showing that they're dumb without making them sound like they're Dodos that dunno how to react to hounds

[outer wave]

I see you're not a fan of the brawler

[storm jungle]

I like him as the codex-accurate ogryn

[crystal forum]

they use everything like hammers

they would explode a plasma gun

[storm jungle]

but i very much prefer Bully and Bodyguard

[storm jungle]

Not if you teach them, again.

[cyan merlin]

I play bodyguard

[storm jungle]

ogryns are kept dumb, they arent braindead

[crystal forum]

it is very possible to be too stupid to use guns

[storm jungle]

I mean

looking at real life i doubt it

people with above level intelligence also fuck it up

[crystal forum]

you should be feeling the opposite dilara

[storm jungle]

never

[opaque coyote]

Although it's probably harder to teach one because

They (commonly) have the mentality of a 3 year old

With the strength of a Thunder Warrior

[outer wave]

Tbf, least they give the excuse that its not that hes naturally that dumb, its his brain getting fried

[opaque coyote]

Y'know how handsy toddlers get

[crystal forum]

irl grunts can not be trusted with sensitive equipment

[opaque coyote]

...

Now imagine with an Ogryn

[storm jungle]

The other thing is like this is a sub-species of human spread out across the ENTIRE galaxy.

Its impossible for them to have 1 default mindset

[crystal forum]

they come from 1 planet

[storm jungle]

Nope

they come from multiple

[crystal forum]

originally

[storm jungle]

theres no ogryn homeworld

[cyan merlin]

Brunt is from catachan apparently
The existence of catachan ogryns should horrify anyone that hears it

[crystal forum]

naaah

[storm jungle]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[storm jungle]

yeah catachan is known to harbor/borrow ogryns to be locals

[outer wave]

I really wanna see GW develop on Ogryn culture and tradition, because I find some of the stuff Bodyguard says pretty interesting, even if its somewhat generic warrior culture stuff

[crystal forum]

im pretty sure ogryn and squat lore is interlinked

[storm jungle]

Its not

[crystal forum]

it is

[storm jungle]

they are seperate species

[opaque coyote]

To be honest my headcanon is that Ogryns are as smart as baseline, just with more violent tendencies.

But they either

A) Never got an education cause they lived in the wilderness.

B) The Imperium doesn't want intelligent Ogryns. They want dumb soldiers that happily charge into gunfire.

[storm jungle]

Votann is even more distant

to the point that the yare essentially aliens

and arent even formed from humans

[cyan merlin]

What are the Votanns

[crystal forum]

i said squat

[opaque coyote]

So they're dumb as a result

[crystal forum]

original squat lore

[storm jungle]

Space Dwarves

[opaque coyote]

And it kinda self-perpetuates itself

[cyan merlin]

Ohhh right

[storm jungle]

the original lore is basically non-existant so

NEXT

[crystal forum]

that's what i meant

[storm jungle]

bailiff kill this furball

[crystal forum]

if it has squat lore it's old

[opaque coyote]

Mmmm

Dwarf

[cyan merlin]

Because why should abhumans get more when they can instead add yet another Cadian regiment

[outer wave]

I'm of the theory that their brains are more wired towards survival and therefore aren't as malleable to learning complicated ideas, but easily adapt to survival situations

[crystal forum]

i think they're stupid

[storm jungle]

Me when the only guardsman regiments you can run this edition are Cadians, Krieg or Catachan 💀 💀 💀

[opaque coyote]

That is also a good idea.

It's kinda like how pre-agriculture humans knew their entire local region from memory

But if you asked one wtf 1+1 is

They don't know

[cyan merlin]

I wanna play the tabletop but I’m waiting for SOMEONE to hand over the printer files

[crystal forum]

you didn't dm

[cyan merlin]

Fair enough

[opaque coyote]

In general I like to think it's a combo of like

Imperium not wanting them to be smart

Their environment

[outer wave]

Exactly. They may understand that they need food and there is a shortage of food within their tribe, but theyre not going to be able to file the taxes of the tribe

[opaque coyote]

And their differently wired brains

[cyan merlin]

If the ogryns get smart they pose a serious threat

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are essentially a slave species

[crystal forum]

no pleb in the imperium is educated. it wouldn't make sense that imperium keeps ogryns dumber

[cyan merlin]

Oh yeah can’t ogryns be psykers too?

[crystal forum]

they're just naturally dumb

[storm jungle]

They do tho

they literally lie to them

lol

[outer wave]

I recall hearing about Grey Ogryns maybe being smart but I might be wrong on that

[storm jungle]

Yeah and speaking of

we got evidence of how ogryns can be educated with Cassia from the ghaz novel

who actually can read and speak like a normal person

[opaque coyote]

They literally lie to them and don't put in the effort to educate them beyond "Shoot that guy".

[crystal forum]

lie like tell them the emperor will fucking kill them if they dont do as they're told

everybody is told these lies

it's the fucking imperium

[storm jungle]

No because the lies told to ogryn are child tier bullshit

lol

[opaque coyote]

They aren't told that.

More like "Emperor will give extra rations" type of shit

Basically child tier bs

Oh

[storm jungle]

and again we got a cannon example of an educated ogryn, so this argument has no ground lol

[opaque coyote]

Dilara already said so

[storm jungle]

Cassia being able to read and do other "complex" stuff shows they very much are kept dumb, not that "they cannot learn"

[crystal forum]

we have way more dumb ogryns

[cyan merlin]

Just realized Dilara is a witchfinder
I’m a psyker main
Should I be scared?

[storm jungle]

Because they are kept dumb

again

[opaque coyote]

True but that's because they don't bother

[storm jungle]

^

Cassia's existence basically overrides this entire thing lol

[opaque coyote]

They're in a specialized role essentially

[cyan merlin]

Is that a good thing or a bad thing in your opinion

[outer wave]

Most Ogryns dont get the chance of becoming part of an Inquisitor's retenue, much less the chance to actually get educated

[crystal forum]

i dont know how to explain more that a human pleb does not have any more capacity to learn than what ogryns get

[storm jungle]

Very good thing. It shuts down dumb points like this tbh

[opaque coyote]

Sure most of the Imperium is also uneducated.

But at least they are taught the basics.

[crystal forum]

they're just dumb

[opaque coyote]

Like low gothic

How to do your duty

Etc.

[storm jungle]

They're dumb because they arent allowed to have any proper cognitive thought, again they are a slave/auxillary race.

[cyan merlin]

Low gothic, from what I’ve been told, is basically just whatever language is spoken on that planet
I.e. there are multiple low gothic languages

[crystal forum]

so few humans get that chance either

[opaque coyote]

Kinda.

More like each planet has a different variant.

[storm jungle]

Not really tho

[opaque coyote]

I think it generally sounds like a mix of German or whatever in lore

[storm jungle]

most humans in Imperium are self-taught stuff

[cyan merlin]

Enough for some of the rejects to be educated

[storm jungle]

especially regarding their jobs

[crystal forum]

working for an inquisitor?

it's like the worst example

[storm jungle]

I mean no?

like, what is this point

shes smart

lmao

Ogryns are kept dumb.

Its simple as that.

[cyan merlin]

Pretty sure Brunt is a smart Ogryn too
He might be playing dumb

[storm jungle]

Hes got his moments

[crystal forum]

who

[outer wave]

He at least talks pretty okay and has a proper name

[opaque coyote]

We dunno

He never appears a lot

[storm jungle]

My mom, Cassia who fucking else lmao

ithink you lost the plot 💀

[cyan merlin]

I started playing after brunt went missing so I’ve never actually seen him outside cutscenes

[outer wave]

Your mom's an Ogryn.....?

[storm jungle]

Dont worry he just appears in that one cutscene

[storm jungle]

google what turks look like

most of my uncles look like ogryns

[crystal forum]

who is cassia

[outer wave]

LMAO

[storm jungle]

They really captured that mediterreanean bloke look

i love it

[opaque coyote]

New lore

Ogryns were Turkish all along

[cyan merlin]

Turks are in
Turkëy?

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1027716679817502781.webp

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-black-cat-cattok-cat-tiktok-gif-16975015739671408900

[outer wave]

I'd shove that into his face tbh

[cyan merlin]

Space wolves are literally just Vikings
They are not space marines, they’re born that way

[cyan merlin]

What did I doooo

[crystal forum]

like my zealot who grew up in the streets on a rat based diet? she's still smarter than an ogryn

[storm jungle]

Also basically

• Planets can have their own languages, dialects etc just like our world with its multiple languages etc OR straight up talk Low Gothic, but there will still be variances due to simply how humans work.

It only gets complex when you get into dialects but that is again just whatever the culture on the planet goes through/develops with.

[crystal forum]

you literally see ogryns try to count to 5 in the shuttle

they're fucking morons

[storm jungle]

they arent counting to 5

bodyguard says it

hes counting if he has all his fingers still to make sure none got sliced

so uh

[crystal forum]

my ogryn isn't a bodyguard

[storm jungle]

Too bad

its a given explanation

[opaque coyote]

Jokes aside, generally, I think on some level their psychology is different.

But I don't necessarily think it makes them dumber generally.

Especially since Cleric Ogryns fucking exist.

[storm jungle]

written by a GW writer

[cyan merlin]

So low gothic is a common language that everyone can speak but all planets also have their own dialects?

[storm jungle]

so Writer > Gayjay

[crystal forum]

they are clearly counting their fingers what

[opaque coyote]

Somehow they proofread despite

...not knowing how to read?

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically imagine our world but apply to other planets

[crystal forum]

like the ogryn gives up midway through

[storm jungle]

Low Gothic is just a forced common language

High Gothic is big language rich folks and higher officials use aka just butchered latin

its literally like English

its not an official language in many places

[opaque coyote]

Also Orks speak their own language.

It's just translated for our convenience.

[storm jungle]

but we use it even here

because its a lingua franca

[opaque coyote]

I think it sounds like gruttal roars and growls

If I remember correctly

[storm jungle]

Low Gothic/High Gothic is basically that

[cyan merlin]

High gothic does literally just sound like what edgy 13 year olds think Latin sounds like

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

[opaque coyote]

Their British accent is either them shouting low gothic to intimidate/make fun of the Humies

Or just their speech translated

[storm jungle]

GW has provided what it looks like too

it literally is just broken latin lol

[cyan merlin]

Damn the imperium got smacked so hard even their language is broken

[opaque coyote]

I like to think that their cockney accent is just

How they speak Low Gothic somehow

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

40,000 years is a long ass time

Language would probably be fucking weird

[crystal forum]

they're just stereotypes of mentally challenged people, all of 40k is stereotypes and i dont see ogryns being any different.

[cyan merlin]

Approximately 1/6th of humanity’s time spent being a civilization

[storm jungle]

That doesnt really tie into the debate being made here

[crystal forum]

it's not deep

they're just dumb

[storm jungle]

I mean it isnt

[outer wave]

I've never seen Ogryns as a metaphor for mentally challenged people

[storm jungle]

you are the one arguing

[storm jungle]

They're kept dumb

next

[crystal forum]

oh they're not metaphors

that would imply it isn't offensive

which it is

[storm jungle]

But yeah basically they are manipulated

thats always been the lore

and still is

They are actively scolded for thinking for themselves lol

[opaque coyote]

Except maybe the really old lore

But most of that is replaced

[cyan merlin]

and also probably exaggerated by in-universe propaganda

[storm jungle]

Nah it still is the case

Wraithbone Phoenix goes into it

its a book with a ratling/ogryn co-protagonist

half the theme is how abhumans are treated by the imperium as literal freaks and subhumans

[outer wave]

God thats peak

[storm jungle]

they force them to pray shit like "Im unclean, im lowly, but im forgiven"

lmao

[cyan merlin]

…Is it possible to have a half-Ogryn..?

[opaque coyote]

Is it the one where the Ogryn Protag basically speaks eloquently

[outer wave]

No one is gonna fuck an ogryn so no

[opaque coyote]

Because he got shot in the head.

[storm jungle]

Nah, only matching abhumans can interbreed with each other

[storm jungle]

Yeah lol

[outer wave]

Only way is maybe someone splices genes

[storm jungle]

he speaks likes a shakespeare player

lmao

[opaque coyote]

Shot in the head

Somehow becomes far more verbose

[cyan merlin]

Don’t give Bile any ideas

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

its a very popular media trope

[outer wave]

Oh dude I want to see him try

[storm jungle]

get hit in the head

becomes instantly smart

[outer wave]

Savant syndrome

[opaque coyote]

My Courier 6 moment

(I always go high Int most of the time)

I think the only time I did a low int character was when I was doing legion stuff.

...as a woman

I think you can see why she's low int

Got bored of it though

[crystal forum]

you can get rped in fallout 1 as a low int woman

[opaque coyote]

Didn't finish the Legion Main Quests as a result

[crystal forum]

ah the 90's

[opaque coyote]

Aware unfortunately.

The only thing I wish was kept was the ability to Vats somebody in the Groin

I uh

Did that a lot

Admittedly it was very entertaining

[storm jungle]

found the prayer lol

[cyan merlin]

The fallout community and the sniper elite community would be very close I think

[opaque coyote]

"Maybe those scars would make good party talk."

"Your scar won't."

whirrs minigun

[storm jungle]

I forgot abhumans also literally got slurs against them in this book

[opaque coyote]

In general there are two weird things I wish was taken from Fallout 1.

Well besides the general atmosphere

Special deaths and the ability to shoot somebody in the groin

[crystal forum]

your answer is incorrect

[cyan merlin]

Special deaths were fun tho

[crystal forum]

there should be the car from fallout 2 in every fallout

even fallout 1

[opaque coyote]

...you make a fair point.

Although knowing Bethesda, it would somehow be worse than the car mods

[winter vessel]

The one that looks like it’s from Mad Max Road warrior? Provided you get that trunk upgrade in F2?

[crystal forum]

reminder that the guy who created fallout is gay and thats why we're better than you

you specifically

[forest orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/may-i-see-it-chalmers-gif-18367950853266778478

[cyan merlin]

I feel like more progress should have been made between FO2 and FNV on the whole rebuilding thing
It’s been 250 years and nobody tried to do anything with the old cars or fix any of the buildings?
It’s not like concrete is hard to make

[opaque coyote]

...

Honestly the parallel here is fucking funny

[crystal forum]

there's trains and the strip was supposed to be muuuuch bigger

[summer mural]

they are busy barbecuing each other in their radiated backyards

[crystal forum]

california is meant to be pretty built up during fallout NV

[opaque coyote]

I did hear a rumor that originally Bethesda's Fallout 3 was planned to be 50 years after the bomb.

[forest orbit]

NAHHH "gene-waste" is CRAZY

https://tenor.com/view/kek-kekwait-gif-24161687

[cyan merlin]

That makes way more sense

[winter vessel]

I still remember fallout tactics having a hummer, lol

[crystal forum]

nothing in fallout 3 makes sense

[opaque coyote]

Low Tier God rant but it's a sister of battle to an abhuman

[winter vessel]

I really hated the skill check dialogue

[crystal forum]

what do you mean

[opaque coyote]

Yeah thank god they never did percentages anymore.

Holy shit I hated that so much

I LOVE SAVING AND LOADING

[crystal forum]

that's 4 not 3

[winter vessel]

No 3 had that.

[opaque coyote]

3 had percentages also

I think 4 is also binary

[winter vessel]

Even if you had put in a lot of points into a specific skill

It wasn’t really a guaranteed success

[opaque coyote]

No wait it

It isn't

Uh

[cyan merlin]

Yeah that shit sucked

[opaque coyote]

God dammit Bethesda

[crystal forum]

i completely forgot that shitty feature

[opaque coyote]

Oh no wait

Technically Fallout 4's is guaranteed

...

To a point

Depends on your charisma level

11 Charisma to always pass reds

[crystal forum]

i hate that fallout 4 wasnt even an RPG anymore

you could get all the skills

[opaque coyote]

So you have to take some DRUGS

[crystal forum]

no character building

[opaque coyote]

[spare osprey]

Speaking of Bethesda games

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think that's the main criticism point I have for most Bethesda modern games

[spare osprey]

Yall see they’re making a wolfenstein show

[crystal forum]

this is news

[summer mural]

i dont like f4 that much, but I do love me some skyrim

[opaque coyote]

Hell Fallout NV is kinda guilty of it, but it's after all the DLCs

[winter vessel]

Idc what people say, I’ll keep insulting that “rifle” in 4

Because damn that looked disgusting

[crystal forum]

ye everybody hated it

[opaque coyote]

Really?

I don't know how they would ever continue after the shit show that was Youngblood

[spare osprey]

Same producer as the fallout show, hopefully the writing is solid too

[opaque coyote]

God that game was a mistake

[crystal forum]

i hate all the guns personally. they should have kept the generic guns instead of customizable crap

[spare osprey]

Same, which is kinda why I’m interested to see where this goes

[crystal forum]

most customizations being useless

[winter vessel]

This’ll be a mess

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

Considering how dogshit Youngblood was story wise.

This is one of the few times where they should just

Decanonize it

Like it just

[spare osprey]

Ignore that shit yeah

[crystal forum]

hey the fallout show wasnt bad

[winter vessel]

I laughed at every customization feature for the pipe gun

[opaque coyote]

Ruined so much of the lore

[crystal forum]

guys this isnt being directed by ID studio lol

[spare osprey]

They gotta cast BJ well, I’ve seen two thrown out but I’m not certain if I really fuck with either

[winter vessel]

They should have the guy who’s played Reacher be BJ

[crystal forum]

the actor will have to look aryan or it doesnt work

BJ is meant to be a literal antinazi

[spare osprey]

See that’s one

[opaque coyote]

To be honest, the customization was kinda lame.

But what I hate was the legendary weapons

[crystal forum]

a jewish aryan

peak

[opaque coyote]

Imagine that message out of context

[winter vessel]

I’d say Alan Ritchson has the build for BJ

[opaque coyote]

I agree btw

The delicious irony. It's also been there since the first 1st person Wolfenstein

[summer mural]

imagine

[crystal forum]

this is apparently a nazi era ideal aryan

[summer mural]

if they hadnt made youngblood we could have had a new wolfenstein game

[opaque coyote]

Like the tidbit about BJ being Jewish and being the poster Aryan "Untermensch"

Been there since the beginning

[cyan merlin]

I was gone for like 5 minutes how did the conversation deviate this hard

[winter vessel]

Blitzmensch with the POWER OF THUNDER loved that promotional for Colossus

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-upset-furious-mad-til-schweiger-gif-15660991

Took me a second

[opaque coyote]

I actually did like the Wolfenstein Remakes.

The ones in-between the modern one and the old games

[spare osprey]

Other one I’ve seen thrown around

[opaque coyote]

Ngl all the Nazi Occult shit was sick

[winter vessel]

Hugo forgot his last name

[opaque coyote]

I like me some Magical Laser Guns

[spare osprey]

Stiglitz

[opaque coyote]

I kinda wish it returns somewhat

Someday

[spare osprey]

Had to look it up

[dapper gyro]

Old blood?

[opaque coyote]

Give ya boy a fucking neck brace

[opaque coyote]

The 2009 one released by activision

[crystal forum]

the blond hair is kinda required

[opaque coyote]

Developed by Raven Studios

Yeah it's kinda forgotten

[spare osprey]

Dude I love the games, but the order I played them in

Was so fucked

[opaque coyote]

Unfortunate but it doesn't live up to the quality of the ID software Remakes (except Youngblood, I just don't count that as a Wolfenstein game)

[spare osprey]

I went new colossus, old blood, and THEN new order

[opaque coyote]

...

Bro

[spare osprey]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Old Blood could be skipped

It's like how MGS V had Phantom Pain and Ground Zeros

Old Blood is basically Ground Zeroes

Still fun though

Honestly if they do go forward with the show.

I hope they explore the in-between era

Basically in-between BJ being comatose

[winter vessel]

I always favored the 1946 look of the standard Wehrmacht soldier than their 1960s design. 1960s look like a weird owl

[opaque coyote]

And him waking up from literally being paralyzed for over a decade because he smells Nazi blood

[opaque coyote]

I am half convinced Old Blood was made purely to reuse those designs more

Cause New Order only shows them for a bit

[dapper gyro]

It was.

It is more of a standalone expansion.

[crystal forum]

old blood feels like a goofy game made by an indie company

in the good way

[dapper gyro]

Which is unlike MGS5 GZ, which is a tech demo for the fox engine.

[crystal forum]

i love how surgical the big guys looked

like they're meant to be the peak of what soldiers could be but they have to be completely cut open and pieced back together to become that way

reminds me of those bioshock infinite guys

[opaque coyote]

Obviously like the 1946 design more.

But I think the 1960 design has some nice touches as eell

[opaque coyote]

Ironically, I think the worst part is the metal face mask

It just looks kinda stupid

I honestly think if it looked similar to like the soldier face masks. It'd be better

[winter vessel]

agreed. Panzerhund is my favorite which inevitably would have an upgraded and proper look after they won the war

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

Honestly

I want one of those

[crystal forum]

i bet germany wanted all its soldiers to be converted into those big guys but even their propaganda couldn't convince people to go through that process

[opaque coyote]

If bad, why robo dog friend shaped

God felt so good to finally use one

[crystal forum]

the beach also had those weird tripods that never come back

[winter vessel]

Recruiter: "Was wäre, wenn wir Zahnpflege anbieten würden?" (what if we offered dental care?)
average civilian: "NEIN!"

[opaque coyote]

Oh 100%.

I also like the detail of Germania being a thing.

Since that was Hitler's plan for his Capital

It was... very uh

Very stupid plan wise

I honestly think both him and Speer were in a drug bender while drawing up the plans

[winter vessel]

having a pint at the local pub

[crystal forum]

i like how new order doesnt talk much about hitler and then new colossus brings us to venus to kill him

[opaque coyote]

But besides that, very fucking cool detail. Shows the research the devs did into how crazy the Nazis were.

It's honestly surprising how accurate they are at points. Despite Wolfenstein generally being extreme as shit.

[winter vessel]

I remember thinking "what if i could kick him?" and then as you're going to the booth it gives you that option, that was great. course thats an automatic death

[crystal forum]

devs knew

they knew

[opaque coyote]

I almost want to be like a ghost exploring what this fucked up Nazi hellscape is like

[opaque coyote]

"No I'm... I'm from Arizona!"

immediately gets shot

Also apparently that's Kennedy

[crystal forum]

it will feel like the 1950's but forever

[opaque coyote]

Like John F. Kennedy.

[crystal forum]

whether that's good or bad depends on you

[opaque coyote]

Bastard literally can't escape being shot in the face no matter what timeline

[winter vessel]

honestly, even if that grunt was a Nazi in the booth, the way BJ just decimates that guy and proceeds to club him with the rifle I went "ಠ_ಠ damn Billy..."

[spare osprey]

GET FUCKED REAGAN

[crystal forum]

i love that all the german troops we kill are SS so we dont feel bad for them lol

in all games they have SS markings

[opaque coyote]

Hitler did plan to change the Wehremact into the SS though.

So likely every soldier is SS as a result since he won.

[spare osprey]

I love all the real ppl they implement in the games

[crystal forum]

wouldnt make sense in 1946

[spare osprey]

J is the best

[opaque coyote]

True. I think we killed actual SS units in 1946, but by the 1960s, the army itself is the SS.

[opaque coyote]

I kinda felt bad for him and the guy that picked up our bags.

I just felt like an asshole for a second.

Got over it quickly because Nazi

But still

[crystal forum]

man the games go into the 80's now i think

there's a vr game with casettes and shit

and it's in france

[opaque coyote]

Like the guy in the Booth was literally there to act. That was his job.

And the guy that picked up our bags was just being friendly thinking we're his favorite celebrity

[crystal forum]

i guess america is free now but nazis still have power?

[winter vessel]

yeah. unfortunate that one classmate i had in world history assumed the entirety of the Werhmacht during WW2 was full SS, but even a lot of the Army Regulars hated working with the party. I remember studying a brief battle that took place in 1945 where a small army unit and German soldiers fought against the Waffen SS

[crystal forum]

the game's timeline is fucked

[arctic talon]

For youngblood its that nazis still control parts of europe

iirc

[winter vessel]

battle of castle itter iirc

[opaque coyote]

Youngblood, Nazis control parts of Europe but America is free.

[arctic talon]

even after America and several other countries became free

[crystal forum]

im just guessing id had no idea where to go after new colossus

[winter vessel]

When Youngblood got into that mystical shit i was like "this is too much"

[crystal forum]

they wanted to keep the franchise about kicking nazis out of power as the underdog but NC ends with the world starting to revolt

[opaque coyote]

Tbf makes sense given the Nazi's obsession with the Occult.

I think it would've been fine if it was BJ or just

Literally anybody else than the Forspoken tier protagonists we got.

[winter vessel]

i wish we got that part as like, an expansion

[opaque coyote]

But generally I would've liked a fucking in-between game where we build up a bigger army

[crystal forum]

i would have been perfectly happy with a NC sequel about the gang going all over the world kicking nazi ass in different major cities while fighting the new moon based nazi leader or something

[opaque coyote]

Generally, I don't mind Youngblood 's premise.

...I do mind how it executed it

And also the protagonists

Seriously, their mom on the battlefield while pregnant must have damaged their brains

[crystal forum]

i just refuse to accept the franchise moving on from BJ's gang

[opaque coyote]

Also the gameplay was just boring.

[winter vessel]

yeah that blood shower was uh...something

[opaque coyote]

Like

[crystal forum]

maybe BJ's character arc was finished but there were other characters

[opaque coyote]

Holy shit

How did they make this genius ass formula

[crystal forum]

and he doesnt even need a character arc. he's fucking BJ

[opaque coyote]

And gunplay

Boring as fuck

[winter vessel]

elevator sequence

[opaque coyote]

Also needing to level up like it's an RPG

...okay

But not even having anything else of an RPG

It's just killing random Nazis until you level up

[crystal forum]

it's just a bad game even without the plot

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

an unecessary divergion from a highly successful formula

[winter vessel]

i wish the twins weren't wearing the da'at yichud power suits

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

I like the suit design

[winter vessel]

its good, but i wish they didn't have it like, 99 percent of the time

[opaque coyote]

True

I also wish they had actual personalities

Instead of

"SISTER"

"YEAH SIS"

Did BJ fuck a hive mind into existence?

[crystal forum]

woah did i just kill a nazi?

[winter vessel]

oh yeah, the damn plank from Ed Edd and Eddy had more personality than those twins combined

[opaque coyote]

But yeah

Please decanonize it

There is nothing to salvage

[crystal forum]

they'll need to do a whole reboot

starting from scratch

[tender pine]

Man the AOStide is looking great

[opaque coyote]

I think from New Collosus is fine honestly

[winter vessel]

I would like to see a spin off of sorts about the early rise of Nazi Germany's domination. maybe play as regular allied soldiers fighting a losing battle as it dwindles into a resistance

[crystal forum]

i dont think the games work without BJ

[opaque coyote]

Like in-between BJ being knocked out

[crystal forum]

it's like doom without doom guy

[opaque coyote]

And BJ waking up

[winter vessel]

fair

yeah in between

[opaque coyote]

That would be interesting asw

[winter vessel]

like, there was an attempt with those dlc stories in NC

[opaque coyote]

Tbh...

I thought Doom 3 was a good game.

It was a nice attempt

Still flawed but I genuinely think that a Horror Doom could work

If it wasn't Doomguy

Like we see how fucked up the demons are to any average person

[crystal forum]

i think BJ could be easily rebooted

he has already gone through many reboots

he could just be a new BJ

[winter vessel]

maybe an Isolation esque game? play as a worker in the UAC during the Lazarus waves release in 2016? prior to Doom Guy's release from his crypt?

[crystal forum]

you cant be an average joe in wolfenstein

[opaque coyote]

Either that or an Elite Guard that survived Olivia's activation of their kill chips

[winter vessel]

not a bad idea either

on the spectrum of Doom, i still miss its multiplayer feature

[crystal forum]

doom 3 worked it just tanked for other reasons

[opaque coyote]

I mean...

The bits we get into the fucked up Nazi Dystopia was interesting

And I kinda wish we got more

[crystal forum]

how are you meant to be a nazi killing machine without being BJ

[winter vessel]

i had hoped, Dark ages would bring that back since in lore there was a division of the Night Sentinels, those loyal to the wraiths and those loyal to the Maykrs. thought it could fit nicely

[crystal forum]

if you want a different kind of game sure

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the New Collosus had DLCs where you play as different protags

And they were pretty interesting

[winter vessel]

give it a 7/10

[crystal forum]

that DLC was lame

but the characters were also wacky

and actual cartoon levels

not normal people at all

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I was thinking of a spinoff in the same universe

As the recent remakes

[crystal forum]

maybe that's what the show will be

i doubt it will be BJ killing nazis constantly every episode

maybe it will be like man in the high tower

[opaque coyote]

Yeah and I'm hoping it'd be that.

I just think that Youngblood should be decanonized generally

[winter vessel]

yeah YB has got to go

[opaque coyote]

Just start from New Collosus again. It was solid up until YB

[crystal forum]

im sure the series will take place in new blood and gamers will be pissed because it rewrites the game lore

also because woke or whatever

remember the shit storm that happened in new colossus

[opaque coyote]

Tbf some of the scenes were weird.

Again, pregnant blood shower

I ain't saying it's flawless

I just think that it is solid

[winter vessel]

Bombate and sigrun in the little pod

[opaque coyote]

... honestly I did fucking laugh

So it at least succeeded at that

Sigrun was an interesting character.

If only they didn't make so many fat jokes good lord

At least she got some though

||More than m-||

[winter vessel]

my favorite was, if you choose the Wyatt Timeline, the boy is off his rocker, but when it comes to the plan on Venus he says "you're gonna need radioactive mittens" and then Grace replies "Mittens N-?!"

[opaque coyote]

I do like how Grace was comparatively antagonistic.

Since real resistances like the French Resistance was fairly mixed

With differing goals on what they wanted France to be

The only thing they all agreed on is that the Nazis had to be kicked out

[winter vessel]

i still like the ending when Wyatt gives the inspiring speech, it gives hope. But taking the other ending where Grace is doing it invokes the raw rage against tyranny, which is still a palatable ending

[shell mason]

Dear sweet god im sore

and this heat wave aint fucking it

[storm jungle]

[raven stone]

?

[sharp pollen]

yeah very interesting lore (5k sm died) so cool
but what about actual cool lore- is there ogryn sized sigaretes

[storm jungle]

what about the actual lore where I drop a safe on you

👀

[storm jungle]

its from this thing called a book

[raven stone]

No, no, my “?” Was more at “why the Arbites emoji” 😅

I did kind of just drop into this channel with 0 context

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/so-what-agree-maybe-columbo-gif-18453480

[dapper gyro]

What is it? Can I eat it?

[sharp pollen]

isnt this like, basic knowledge to hate eldar?..

[fervent gull]

On DoW 1 IG psyker had the ability to turn off weapons of the vehicles calles curse of machine spirits Is it for balance reasons or inlore psykers can do this too?

[storm jungle]

not really

[storm jungle]

psykers in lore can essentially do anything depending on their power level

theres no "set rules" for magic in 40k

[fervent gull]

[raven stone]

Now you see why Imperium is so paranoid about hidden psykers…

[vagrant fox]

abracadabra alakazam your blood is now dicks

[queen laurel]

Something like that is easy for them

For example Iron arm which is a psychic spell that literally turns your body into organic steel

[vagrant fox]

There is that, everything from palp's force lightning to forcibly injecting the knowledge of how insignificant you are in the universe to that one really funny Deathwatch TTRPG one where the Red Scorpions make you mutate out of control if you're corrupt

[queen laurel]

Yeah endless possibilities

[vagrant fox]

I recall one for the Flesh Tearers where your skin auto-flenses itself off you

It's a very good time

[sharp pollen]

in the 40k community

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smiling-propeller-hat-gif-11748068

[storm jungle]

I mean no not really

they got plenty of fans

not all of us can be naziboo imperials

[vagrant fox]

the only acceptable thing to hate on is the tyranids for being way boring ☝️ 🤓

[sharp pollen]

true

[soft thunder]

Anyone have images of the Rogue Trader book event things? trying to collect the context for all the cool images.

[tough haven]

Check steam forums

Or community posts

[storm jungle]

steam forums

💀

[sturdy sedge]

Too many iconoclast xenofuckers

[storm jungle]

Love all my homies out there

[sharp pollen]

brrr brrr
Hitman 1 is calling
dinner is getting cold

[forest orbit]

As a black templar fan I support this message 🫡

[storm jungle]

lmao

[sturdy sedge]

Napalm barrage gotcha

[forest orbit]

What is the deal with people like this anyway

[storm jungle]

Its like

a very dumb part of the 40k fandom bleeding into 40k who are just braindead "kill all xenos" idiots mostly

[forest orbit]

Yeah that checks out, I get it to a point but I found that ot be the most boring way to play the game.

Some of the iconoclast choices are also legit hilarious

[storm jungle]

A lot of morality choices are yeah, people just got no taste sometimes and thats okay

[forest orbit]

LOL

true enough

[sturdy sedge]

Eh i do mix of dogmatic and iconoclast

[storm jungle]

Its kinda the same with people who get mad when players romance marazhai

[sharp pollen]

taste to selfish space elves who get red everytime other races step on planets that were theirs 5 billion years ago

[storm jungle]

thats just the Imperium

[sturdy sedge]

Mostly by picking logical choices

[forest orbit]

Lmao I love those people

they get so mad

[sturdy sedge]

Cuz some dogmatic or icono choices just brain-dead

[storm jungle]

Tbh it fits

dogmatic especially

"let me just kill all my helpful allies"

[sturdy sedge]

|| like letting bunch of gene-stealers escape. Due to them being women and children ||

[forest orbit]

They are replacable

[storm jungle]

[forest orbit]

[storm jungle]

oh

damn that edit lol

[forest orbit]

darn

I thought we were talking about blowing up imperial women and children

[sharp pollen]

reading about 1 giant wheat collector on Janus in which people never see the sun and maintain the machine by clans and families has more taste to the imperium than to the eldars 🥱

[storm jungle]

Did you have a stroke typing this

[sharp pollen]

yes

happy?

[storm jungle]

yeah I didnt understand a word of it

[sturdy sedge]

|| i mean you can order exterminatus on 2 imperial planets so that too ||

[storm jungle]

[forest orbit]

🫡

[forest orbit]

Me when I dont read any lore and make assumptions

[storm jungle]

tbh thats kinda the core to most people that dont know jackshit about eldar

the usual giveaway is when they call them "eldars" for starters

[sharp pollen]

i actually want to double check the wording on that upgrade

[storm jungle]

[forest orbit]

Illiterate ahh spelling

[storm jungle]

[sharp pollen]

selfish ahh elves who always lose 🥱

[storm jungle]

selfish ahh space nazis who always get killed 🥱

[sturdy sedge]

It's Aeldari no? Asuryani, Drukhari and Exodites

[forest orbit]

Yeah it is

tho thats the copyright titles GW uses

[sturdy sedge]

I mean in wh pretty much every race are assholes

[sharp pollen]

yeah, this is cool, remembered it

[storm jungle]

Its what makes them fun tbh

most people just dont wanna accept it lol

[sturdy sedge]

Ye

[forest orbit]

its okay to massacre entire planets

[sturdy sedge]

Some gets too much into Humans rulz, other too busy sucking xenocock

[sturdy sedge]

As long as there's no important equipment

[storm jungle]

Idk about that one

the worst part of this fandom ive seen is always imperials usually

lol

[forest orbit]

^

AND I say this as a space marine fanboy

my part of the fandom is terrible lol

[sharp pollen]

please... no sm...

[forest orbit]

yes

[sharp pollen]

THE most boring faction...

[forest orbit]

Nope

[sharp pollen]

even aeldaries are better

[forest orbit]

Who?

is that a guard regiment

[hallow plover]

when people say space marines are boring does it include chaos space marines?

[storm jungle]

Bro cannot stop having episodes

[forest orbit]

Nah its loyalists

[sharp pollen]

im having my corpse starch

[forest orbit]

they get the most marketing and showfronting

[sharp pollen]

alright space wolves are kinda fun

thanks rogue trader

MYOD

[storm jungle]

He says

then reads space wolf lore

and would instantly hate them

[forest orbit]

Real.

[sharp pollen]

thanks for the warning

[forest orbit]

Shes lying

you should totally read their lore

a man of your very bottom-tier tastes would love it imo

[sharp pollen]

i will remain ignorant and still think of them as just vikings

[sturdy sedge]

Some rabid Yrilet fans can be pretty annoying

Specially when someone reminds them that her romance is platonic

[storm jungle]

Yeah that

[hallow plover]

is this good for space wolf stuff?

[storm jungle]

I usually very much see the opposite though so lol

[sturdy sedge]

Or shows that picture

[storm jungle]

Fuck no lmao

[sharp pollen]

the cuck level is insane

[hallow plover]

I have 0 knowledge of them besides hearsay

[storm jungle]

its not even cucking

yall mfers just think with your dicks all the time

[storm jungle]

its crazy

[hallow plover]

it's the only currently in print SW book

[storm jungle]

get Lukas the Trickster

you can shoot me if you hate it

[hallow plover]

and i'm not paying a fortune to read a space wolf book

[storm jungle]

in print

OH MY GOD

JUST BUY EBOOKS

[hallow plover]

reading on pixels

[sharp pollen]

buy in a store of blu-ray disks

[storm jungle]

pixels

tf are you reading it on

a nokia?

[hallow plover]

I wish

Quality phones

[sharp pollen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/283984194382725124/1206581043553894400/toughlife.gif

[hallow plover]

What's lukas the trickster about?

A space wolf playing hide and seek?

[storm jungle]

Perhaps.

https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/lukas-the-trickster-ebook.html

Among the Space Wolves there are as many sagas as there are warriors. Though none quite like that of Lukas the Trickster. Renowned and reviled in equal measure, the Jackalwolf has ever stood apart from his brothers, passed from pack to pack by embittered Wolf Lords. But as a new enemy invades the icy reaches of Fenris at the height of the Helwinter, Lukas finds himself facing a foe who may rival even his legendary cunning – the drukhari corsair, Duke Sliscus. In the battle between wolf and serpent, who will emerge triumphant, and who will lay on red snow?

[hallow plover]

Ebook charlatan; begone!

[storm jungle]

eat it bitch

anyway Hes basically a bit of an out of ordinary space wolf

also a total funny dickhead with his own posse

hes so annoying that every year each great company takes to fighting among their leaders to see who will have the burden of harboring him lmao

[hallow plover]

twelve maplebucks

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/so-what-agree-maybe-columbo-gif-18453480

[rocky gale]

Just bought Queen of the Rose Throne to spite your ebooks

Cover goes hard

And as they say, always judge a book by its cover

[sturdy sedge]

Eh

I rather read Like a Phoenix From the Flames: The Founding of the 597th

[vagrant fox]

100%

[hallow plover]

Is Vail's hate on Sulla deserved?

[storm jungle]

had to google what that was

ciaphas cain slop

[sharp pollen]

isnt Sigmar age just average fantasy, but with ratlings so its not so boring

[storm jungle]

No lol

[naive cliff]

Yes. Sulla’s assault on the Gothic language is truly awful

Reads like the worst overblown imperial propaganda ever

[storm jungle]

I mean

isnt it suppose to be that

[celest dome]

Does AoS even have Halfling ?

[storm jungle]

Yeah

why wouldnt it

lmao

[sturdy sedge]

Course it is

[celest dome]

I just never noticed them

[sturdy sedge]

Though i only remember them due to Blood bowl

[storm jungle]

well dug

they are short

[celest dome]

What about Gnomes

[storm jungle]

gnomes???

bro people barely even remember gnomes in WHF

[celest dome]

Blood Bowls is closer to Battle Fanrady than AoS though

[sturdy sedge]

Something about committee adding rule about max numbers of players in the team after 546th? Halfling player corpse was carried form the field

[sturdy sedge]

Fun stuff still

[plush mason]

what romance?

[barren prawn]

are there different scholas than the schola progenium?

[plush mason]

i have wondered that myself

[barren prawn]

like im pretty sure the schola progenium only has sanctioned psykers

but the ones in darktide are not sanctioned since they've never been off world

but the savant still mentions having been to a schola

[plush mason]

the savant is afaik the only sanctioned psyker in the rejects, having been an enforcer before getting hung out to dry

[barren prawn]

idk i asked about this before here and the consensus was that none of them are sanctioned

savant's lines make it seem like they have never been to terra which is where all the psykers are sanctioned

[plush mason]

hm

[barren prawn]

we need an adult

[storm jungle]

no

[storm jungle]

they have been tbh

[barren prawn]

🤔

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1027716679817502781.webp

[barren prawn]

im pretty sure the savant hasnt

they have lines about ""suspecting that the black ships wont be fun""

meaning they havent been on one

why is atoma hiding psykers from the terra

[storm jungle]

You dont have to be on a black ship to be offworld tho

[barren prawn]

ok fair

[queen laurel]

Don't worry i got you the elves here are nazis

And for the racist every faction is equivalently racist