40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

those mutants are normal humans pretty much in terms of intelligence

the FO4 and 3 Super mutants are uh

very basic

aside from a few of them

like Fawkes

and the dude from Far harbor

[queen laurel]

OK but how do they make more of themselves because if I remember those are the ones that you need to throw them in a dangerous virus thingy goop that would turn them into those giant monsters

[arctic talon]

they don't

[rose thorn]

Most are kinda dumb in 1,2, nv but it’s like, no where near as bad as 4

[arctic talon]

explictly in universe they're a dying breed and most of them are okay with that

[arctic talon]

they're like stupid normal person and violent(in 1) because they're soldiers with orders to kill and capture people

not Raaaagh I'm a generic scary monster

and I eat people

[queen laurel]

so the only breed left that is multiplying is the dumb ones from 4?

[arctic talon]

The east coast ones yes

[winter vessel]

East coast variants are The end result of a twitch streamer

[arctic talon]

because they don't have any real

moral conflict on making more of themselves

[rose thorn]

God I love Erickson

[arctic talon]

the west coast ones kind of aknowledge they're well not natural

[rose thorn]

Hes so great

[arctic talon]

and just want to live out their lives now

[arctic talon]

thats the far harbor dude right

[queen laurel]

and how do those guys come about

[rose thorn]

Yea

[winter vessel]

Marcus was so chill in 2 and NV

[arctic talon]

they got made in FO3 and 4 in vault experiments or the institute fucking around

respectively

not sure how they came to be in 76

[rose thorn]

He was a trans lady too which I just learned

[queen laurel]

so how do they make more of themselves

[arctic talon]

but in FO1, 2 and NV they got made because of The Master

[arctic talon]

dunk humans in FEV

[queen laurel]

because like you said these guys don't have any qualms about that stuff

[queen laurel]

i see

[arctic talon]

sometimes they come out as a super mutant

sometimes they die horribly

sometimes something weird happens

[rose thorn]

west tek kidnapping people

[arctic talon]

wonderful

[winter vessel]

I hated those geeks in 76

[rose thorn]

My favorite part is they were STILL DOING IT after the bombs dropped

until they had an outbreak

[winged jacinth]

you've obviously never seen the rules for Myfarog, the TTRPG by racist idiot varg vierkenes

[arctic talon]

Isn't that one actually playable

despite being horrifically racist

[winged jacinth]

no

[arctic talon]

lol

[winged jacinth]

unless by playable you mean spending 3 hours talking about preserving food for a short journey

[rose thorn]

what year did that release?

i though ti tgot cancelled

[arctic talon]

RAHOW?

[winged jacinth]

myfarog is regularly updated because varg is unfortunately not destitute

[rose thorn]

WHAT

[winged jacinth]

he is, ironically, a welfare recipient lol

[rose thorn]

oh is this teh one where you have to roll for your genetalia sizes?

[winged jacinth]

white supremacists when you give money to starving people of color 😡
white supremacists when they get free money 🙂

no thats FATAL

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[winged jacinth]

which is technically playable if you're really good with a slide rule and quadratic equations lol

[arctic talon]

FATAL Is

well FATAL is FATAL

the dude who made it was also sexist + maybe racist

hes def sexist

[rose thorn]

no kidding

[arctic talon]

the racist part is up for debate

[rose thorn]

i prefer my SA themed TTRPGs designed by women

[arctic talon]

I choose to not engage in that debate because that would mean thinking about FATAL

[winged jacinth]

server doesnt like my word choice
i have heard it described as a date "sexual assault" rpg without dating mechanics

[rose thorn]

AHAHAAH

[arctic talon]

dark heresy kroot stuff

[rose thorn]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

omg

i want kroot army

[arctic talon]

There is literally a rule for the word that the bot hates

during combat

[rose thorn]

i love kroot

[arctic talon]

it is mandatory

the player does not get a choice if it rolls

[rocky gale]

More TTRPG's should have you roll to determine your anal circumference

[winged jacinth]

its an R or be R-ed world in FATAL

[arctic talon]

this is how you know a game is about to be peak

[winged jacinth]

the funniest thing about the anal circumference table is it's perfectly reasonable to roll a negative anal circumference

[sly ivy]

🫡

[arctic talon]

reminder in FATAL

if you roll that your character is gay

and you roll happy marriage for your relationship status

you need to reroll

💀

[sly ivy]

Lmfao based

I think the literal two happiest marriages I kno r gay

[arctic talon]

Owlcat I need dark heresy out now

[rose thorn]

god i love kroot

give me my kroot queen

oh yeah @arctic talon hows the new killteams update

[arctic talon]

Neat

I think I have a few issues with some of them

PF didn’t need the nerf

The rest of the changes are good

[winged jacinth]

i do love wackjob RPG mechanics

there's an old game called Paranoia where the rules are "classified" and if your character reveals too much knowledge of them the GM (playing as Friend Computer) is allowed to execute them

you play as a team of Troubleshooters, whos job is to find trouble and then shoot it

Nobilis is pretty weird, the best way to pick a lock is to talk to it and persuade it to open

all the stats are insane too

damage resistance defines the maximum damage you can be harmed by, with the minimum level being immune to nuclear bombs and the maximum level being immune to being disliked

(i dont think you can RAW get the last two tiers of any stat as a player)

[queen laurel]

This is like the best showing of their houses innit

[winged jacinth]

kroot tech is mysterious

but yeah i dont think we've seen what they normally live like we almost exclusively see mercenaries

even warworlds have only come up a handful of times

[arctic talon]

There’s industry hidden on their homeworld

[queen laurel]

but this is the best look at what kroot houses are like

[winged jacinth]

they've also lost an unclear amount of tech (they're still way more advanced than they present but they clearly had their own DOAT-fall thing)

there was a short story about psychic kroot who ate eldar?

you'd think that would happen more often

cant believe i forgot this lore

the kroot technical revolution happened when they ate a bunch of mekboyz and stole their genetic technical skills lol

[winged jacinth]

👏 FEED 👏 A KROOT 👏 A JOKAERO 👏

i still maintain that the felinid lore where a kroot says they're hard to distinguish from humans just means they taste the same

[celest dome]

Probably

But feeding Jokaero to Kroot would be a very interesting premises

[raven stone]

…I think the guy who founded Tamiya miniature modelling supplies passed away

[arctic talon]

Rip to a real one

[winter vessel]

Shunsaku Tamiya? Damn, that's a shame. I remember my Dad and I buying an M26 Pershing miniature years back

[late osprey]

varg's got to be my favorite lolcow because he's one of the few that actually deserves to be one

[winged jacinth]

best side cutters i've ever had

[winged jacinth]

vargs an insanecow and also, iirc, a murderer?

the story i remember is all in stage names i dont remember who was who

[late osprey]

his story BEGINS as a literal murderer, where he then found RPGs and Odin in prison

[winged jacinth]

i think he found odin before, the band was notorious for church burnings lol

[late osprey]

except he then proceeded to immediately begin his single-man deranged fanfiction version of neopaganism

if you've seen anything about his blog recently he talks about neopaganism the same way like

mormons talk about christianity

[winged jacinth]

i think my favorite varg quote is "i didn't make talismans out of his skull but having heard the idea i wish i had"

[arctic talon]

💀

Least insane Neopagenist white supremacist

[late osprey]

the stave-burning era is weird, its unsure if he was satanic or was literally just pretending to be one to be in euronymous's good graces (the guy he ended up murdering later)

[arctic talon]

His like

The dude he murdered was shady as hell as well

Iirc

[late osprey]

he is, right now, living with an equally-racist insane white supremacist wife who sometimes takes over the blog to give HER insane schizo-paganism

in rural france

purely on government money

[arctic talon]

💀

[late osprey]

when you really think about it, he's just living like his proud ancestors like Rollo

[late osprey]

yeah euronymous was not a good guy, just about nobody in the stave church burning scene was particularly decent

but it's not like varg was doing it out of any righteous indignation, it was at best just pure hypocrisy

and at worst literally wanted euronymous's money LOL

[winged jacinth]

he murdered euronymous, iirc, because he was convinced euronymous was going to murder HIM

[arctic talon]

Oh obviously not

[late osprey]

that's the story he tells yeah, which is the most interesting one of course, that euronymous was going to literally sacrifice varg to satan

[arctic talon]

The dude is probably clinically insane

[late osprey]

and so varg, the trve viking warrior he is, had to strike first :v

[winged jacinth]

i dont believe euronymous was going to kill varg but i do believe varg believed that

[spring cairn]

sons of odin

we are the vinking

beware our terrible larp gear

[late osprey]

myfarog is probably the best lens into most of his beliefs (except for his Asgard-Placenta Theory) and you can see indeed how much of a deranged hypocrite he is

like in the first pages he's like "I just love traditional fantasy, Tolkien is my biggest inspiration in writing this game I love Lord of the Rings"

and the main antagonists?

literally just Christians proselytizing the land coming from the south

[arctic talon]

It’s like Christians, Jews and Muslims

In the one I read lol

[late osprey]

of course in universe they're proselytizing for some super evil demon god but it's all conveniently Christ-coded

well you have to understand that in his world, it all goes back to the Jews, and Christianity is just the proxy to deceive the trve vvestern man

and that the real way of living is to rely on government food stamps

also magic exists but only white people can cast it, also women can't practice magic if they're not virgins

those two bits i always remember because they're the first times something outrageous happens in the book so it absolutely sucker-punched me

like the CoD scene where you get decked down a flight of stairs

i would be a lot more angry about him if anyone worth listening to took him seriously

but his status as the eternal psychocow makes him easier to just laugh at

[winter vessel]

proselytism, such an archaic term

[late osprey]

is there a more modern word?

[winged jacinth]

its such a perfect encapsulation that you can say "the best view into his mindset is his tabletop game, except [most insane phrase you've ever heard]"

proselytizing is used all the time

i dont think proselytism is a word afaik

[arctic talon]

Sometimes I wonder what happens to a person

For them to go down this rabbit hole lol

[winged jacinth]

his story is... long

and involves a lot of prison

[late osprey]

myfarog for all of its blindside moments is really not especially varg-specific, it's more just generic neo-nazi drivel, so Mr. Varg's Wild Ride only REALLY starts if you're unfortunate enough to read his blogs

[winter vessel]

I dunno, convert i guess. but i've seen that word many times, and sadly, is often a negative connotation in society

[late osprey]

proselytise is the act of converting

it's literally the word they use for what they do

[winged jacinth]

i think its specifically the act of preaching to the unfaithful

(from their perspective)

[late osprey]

with intent to convert, but yeah

you don't proselytize in the vatican

[winged jacinth]

conversion efforts are largely looked down upon in modern society because its annoying as hell

and have you ever talked to an adult convert

least normal members of any given religion

[late osprey]

Christians are literally divinely obligated to proselytize, so i doubt that's gonna go away anytime soon

[winter vessel]

we get the occasional zealots at the store i work at, at least once a year

[late osprey]

so is Islam

[winged jacinth]

yeah its super annoying lol

[late osprey]

funny enough, their divine commandment to proselytize is historically considered one of the main reasons for how they even got so big in the first place

[winged jacinth]

im just trying to go to the drive in i dont need someone preaching over an amplifier

[late osprey]

and they're pretty unique in doing that

[winged jacinth]

i thought the historical concensus for the mass rise of christianity outside of the former roman empire had a lot to do with charity etc during the black death

[late osprey]

well the specific vehicles are all very complicated and depend on the time and place

[winged jacinth]

turns out people care a whole lot about their lives being saved compared to being yelled at

i once had a guy try to convert me to islam in the chat of an online yugioh game

[late osprey]

but the main thing is that they're explicitly motivated to convert people by any means, which is pretty rare among priests/clerics of religions in general

[winter vessel]

its sad really. I feel like its something that is best shared "individually" and personally. Spouting scripture to the masses and publically who have not even glimpsed at a bible will just turn em away.

[winged jacinth]

i said "no and also you lost stop stalling"

[late osprey]

conversion techniques are pretty sophisticated especially after 1000s of years, but yeah i dont think shouting from the square like Heimskr is gonna change many minds in the age of information

but for example the whole missionary program is pretty effective

[winter vessel]

oh yeah, my best friend went on a month long missions trip in Japan

[winged jacinth]

all the effective efforts actually like, help people out and stuff

[late osprey]

yeah pretty much

[winged jacinth]

most of the public conversion efforts in the US are just people yelling on street corners

or knocking on your door during dinner time

mormon foreign missions are for getting converts but im pretty sure domestic missions are to convince mormon kids that non-mormons hate them

[late osprey]

way back when they would do some more heavy-handed tactics like "Convert or you won't be allowed to buy or sell stuff with us anymore." which pretty much killed off the entire Viking way of life

but that's not really an option anymore

also literally just killing them but that's a given

thanks, Charlemagne, for chopping down the coolest tree in history. Great stuff, there

[winged jacinth]

hey at least its a playable character in dominions 6

[winter vessel]

Wonder how UK's doing. The islamic faith has continued to grow prominently

[late osprey]

strictly speaking it was hardly a case of the mean evil christians bullying the wholesome reddit pagans, they attacked first and were doing all sorts of butchery

but charlemagne didn't have to chop down the tree

asshole

[winged jacinth]

irminsul in an obscure 4x game my beloved...

[late osprey]

we LOVE irminsul

you know, if the germanic religion was true and literal, charlemagne would've destroyed all of creation right then and there

we'd all be reduced to ginungagap in an instant

[winter vessel]

the primordial void?

[late osprey]

yeah

[winged jacinth]

since this game is extremely weird this was my pretender god for a nation of frost giants and my goal was to gather enough blood sacrifices to summon fimbulwinter as a global spell

[late osprey]

so the cosmology essentially goes, niflheim (iceworld) and muspelheim (fireworld) mix to make reality out of steam, where before there was just the void

and from the steam is yggdrassil (irminsul) and all the realms attached to it

[winged jacinth]

shoutouts to what remains of the original norse creation myth

[late osprey]

asgard never stood a snowball's chance with surtr

[winged jacinth]

yeah the all father's dad was there
where did he come from? his dad was also there
where did he come from? uhh... cow licked him out of ice?

[arctic talon]

Curse of heavenly bureaucracy

[late osprey]

that's fairly part and parcel for pre-christian religious myths, this sorta weird, arbitrarily paradox-contradiction stuff

[arctic talon]

Ngl I don’t even know any of the Chinese religions creation myths

Aside from the clusterfuck hacked together one my grandparents vaguely told me

[winter vessel]

their myths are like a bag of trail mix

[winged jacinth]

as i understand it a bunch of the dynasties adapted their own

[late osprey]

if that sort of stuff is genuinely fascinating to you i really recommend you look at the setting Runequest, it encapsulates sort of the true essence of polytheistic worship perfectly

and it makes the likes of D&D look like idiot-work

[arctic talon]

Truth nuke

[late osprey]

runequest is a TTRPG and has a few video games as well, also some books

[arctic talon]

Feels like I’m having a stroke when I hear someone say they’re not religious and then pray to their ancestors in Taiwan

[late osprey]

there's a comic but it looks like it was made by the adventure time author so im not sure its the wisest first-introduction

[late osprey]

never ask what the "hardcore atheists" get up to when they want their team to win in football

[queen laurel]

hardcore atheists praying to science to accidentally have an accident on the enemy team

[late osprey]

this except it's literally ritualistically smelling the top of a beer bottle

[arctic talon]

Tbf that’s just the case of that sort of religion in Taiwan and China tbh

People don’t consider it religion

It’s weird

It’s just “tradition” rather then religion

Go to a temple before a test for good luck, Ect. lol

[late osprey]

i feel like superstition is sort of a manifestation of our inherent desire to try to do ANYTHING to control a situation we either don't understand or don't have direct control over at all

if it's nurtured enough and is allowed to grow ideological implications then it becomes what we'd call religion

[winter vessel]

"praying to Science", lol. reminds me of that south park episode "go god go" where one of em says 'science damn you!'

[late osprey]

but otherwise it's pretty fascinating how it seemingly comes from that same source

[arctic talon]

Anyways I prayed at a temple before my recent semester and I took one of the blessed pencils after my fortune said I would succeed in my academics

I am guilty of this

[late osprey]

i mean if it costs literally nothing to, essentially, partake in a ritual

why not?

[arctic talon]

It cost me like

50 NTD for the pencil

Which is like 1.50$

[queen laurel]

hey if you like religious trees and religious mechanics why not be a little religious yourself hey

[late osprey]

the vikings would carve runes of good luck into their swords and other gear

y'know if they say it'll keep your head from getting smashed into a pulp

why not

[arctic talon]

I had to chuck the damn jiaobei like 15 times

[winter vessel]

"magic runes, laddie!"

[arctic talon]

Before I got a good result

[late osprey]

viking swordlore is actually super fascinating

[arctic talon]

Because uh

Idk

I suck at this prayer shit ig lol

[late osprey]

the idea is that the swords become magical entities of their own and that's how they are able to perform better in combat

but to do that you have to name them and specifically carve their name into the blade

[arctic talon]

The funniest divination tool

[late osprey]

BEANS

beans, dice, or entrails? which one's the most accurate?

[winter vessel]

i always thought any carving on a blade post smithing would diminish its quality, but i guess it would depend on one's design

[arctic talon]

It’s actually two wooden half crescents lol

But it’s so funny watching people chuck them repeatedly

At a temple

When praying

[late osprey]

the thing that most people don't talk about enough is that the celts and germanics were like

MASTER metalworkers

achieving things you wouldn't see commonly for another 1000 years

what we say of the greeks and romans and their masonry/architecture, applies to the "barbarians" and their metalworking

they were extremely good at making both functional and intricate pieces

[arctic talon]

Oh

Hers insane

[winter vessel]

sad that such a craft is near or almost extinct now. lost to history

[late osprey]

some of the most applicable techniques did survive at least, in the renaissance period some of the most famed workshops were in germany which IMO couldn't have been a coincidence

[winged jacinth]

the designs were typically very shallow and made prominent with something like acid etching iirc

[late osprey]

another example is the sutton hoo helmet, which isn't viking but is germanic (anglo-saxon)

[shadow plover]

amazing

[near wasp]

Gigachad inquistor

[languid meadow]

I wanna do another cyberpunk playthrough but also another RT playthrough

Burdened by choice

[late osprey]

Consider: There is already another RT DLC on the way. It's better to wait for the Grand Playthrough when they finish releasing DLCs, so Cyberpunk is great for stalling.

[lofty mason]

Tallarn is on good terms with Craftworld Biel-Tan (aka the most xenophobic eldar of all), Eldar are legally allowed into a special part of Necromunda’s Hive Primus to trade, Stormtroopers of the 86th Deltic Dragons are specifically tasked with Tau joint ops, Navigator House Belisarius (the one the Space Wolves hire from) is close pals with Craftworld Ulthwe, and Eldrad himself is personally dedicated to humanity’s survival, often sending Ynnari detachments to help out the Imperium.

Pretty interesting piece of lore

Still can't wrap my head around the fact that Imperium allow Eldar to own some piece of land.

[green loom]

Well

It's not that they own it

More that there's a specific place designated where they're allowed to trade

Likely made possible via how powerful The Helmawrs are and them using that power to give themselves an easy in to the Cold Trade

[idle phoenix]

wait, quick question-- Grendyl is based on the Grendel from the Beowulf epic, right? The cursed half brother thing?

[arctic talon]

the name is

as if it means anything

[winged jacinth]

if we had any of the other cast...

beowolfer...

but yeah i think its pretty unlikely? after all who would grendel's mother be

[lofty mason]

The inquisition struck a deal with Commorragh to have some of their experts come study the golden throne to see if they could reverse its decline
Damn.

[winged jacinth]

or Hrothgar

[near wasp]

This did not go well

[winged jacinth]

that sounds like the next sentence is "and they all got gunned down by custodes"

[late osprey]

apparently the whole Black Throne Arc is pretty high up there in "parts of lore we pretend didn't happen"

[late osprey]

unfortunately not

[near wasp]

I mean some of them got gunned down

[idle phoenix]

i dunno, names kind of have meaning to some extent. Hadron for instance is named for the "strongly interacting particles", bosons and fermyons. The Rogue trader ship itself is a hive of interactions between the imperium of man, the inquisition, and the cultus mechanicus. Morrow, a portmanteau of Marrow and tomorrow, is the lifeblood of the incursion. Brahms, possibly named after Johannes Brahms, who "was a German composer, virtuoso pianist, and conductor of the mid-Romantic period. His music is noted for its rhythmic vitality and freer treatment of dissonance, often set within studied yet expressive contrapuntal textures" which kind of ties into her dualistic nature between pious control and unculled ambition

[winged jacinth]

mechanicus names are almost always science terms, im not sure if its assumed when you become a priest or just how they name kids on forge worlds

[idle phoenix]

I thought they were often aphanumeric like T-3601-B

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[late osprey]

i wonder what's the silliest name you can get stuck with

[winged jacinth]

they can also be alphanumerics yeah

[late osprey]

unfortunately most science terms actually sound cool in the void

[storm jungle]

Im pretty sure this plotline is done and dusted in Vaults of Terra

aka literally went nowhere

[late osprey]

so its hard for me to think of a silly one

[winged jacinth]

Kayex is actually KX-something

[arctic talon]

Mechanicus names vary wildly

Belesarius Cawl's name is in fact just Belesarius Cawl lol

[idle phoenix]

Right but in this context, names more often than not are allegorical

Mourningstar for obvious reasons

[near wasp]

I could not finish those books

[arctic talon]

it depends but yes in Darktide def

[winged jacinth]

the techpriests in RT are mostly famous scientists iirc?

the only one i remember by name is pascal

[storm jungle]

40k names are picked because they sound cool, dont read too much into it, barely most of them got a deep meaning

[storm jungle]

Do you want spoilers

its nothing mindblowing but lol

[near wasp]

I already know them

[storm jungle]

Good lmao

[near wasp]

I'm pretty sure

[storm jungle]

another|| "entire cast dies lol lmao"||

[near wasp]

Yep

[storm jungle]

I remember finishing it and being like

[arctic talon]

Kharibs name means nothing

[storm jungle]

"Well okay i guess"

[storm jungle]

its one of my fav things when i write 40k

aka just making up names

its so lame when they pick pre-existing shit

unless it has some actual meaning behind it

[near wasp]

At least your not the tech priest named Frank

[winged jacinth]

Kharib might be a corruption of Khatib from Ibn Al-Khatib

[idle phoenix]

Melk roughly translates to milk, and explains his sour disposition and curdled features

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

Me when i gotta write an essay

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910400427277828147/1353491142833995787/image0.gif

[idle phoenix]

"Emile Zola was a French author and the founder of the literary movement called Naturalism. He is known for his striking narrative which offers the true portrayal of the human condition" Zola is also the native from the planet, and often fights FOR the people

[winged jacinth]

but yeah they MIGHT have chosen grendyl as "hes a monster hiding in a cave" based on what we're learning but i doubt it goes any farther into the epic based on the lack of anyone else from it

[idle phoenix]

I just think more often than not the name is allegorical, and Grendyl being an amalgam of Grendel who is the cursed being in the epic is allusive to their fate

Prolly ties into grandpa Brahms

[winged jacinth]

grendyl might also just not be his name lol

a pseudonym would be the least paranoid thing we've seen him do

[storm jungle]

Excuse me its Grendel

[crystal forum]

i wish 40k had that level of thought put into names

[idle phoenix]

But theyve been called Grendyl by people who met them

[winged jacinth]

i thought it was y in the game and e in the poem

[idle phoenix]

And again, allegorical to the mythical cursed being that needs to be killed after hiding in a cave for 15 years

[rose thorn]

I should pretend all my essays are just warhammer homebrew lore so I can type 3 pages in 46 minutes

[winged jacinth]

this is how pseudonyms work when you tell them to people
rannick has never even seen his boss

[idle phoenix]

Only brought out by an act of trickery

[storm jungle]

Reminds me of that one meme

where some worker whos been in some shitty workplace for like 10 years

get a picture of his boss on a paper with a CONGRADULATIONS text beneath it

[late osprey]

that is not grendel's fate in the poem

his fate in the poem is getting his arm torn off and dying

[storm jungle]

does Beowulf fuck Grendel's mom in the poem too?

I gotta know for uh

historical reason

[crystal forum]

all i know of poetry is nelligan and his vagina boat

[late osprey]

no actually, that was a rewrite for the movie so they could have angelina jolie naked

[storm jungle]

Is this a bad thing

[winged jacinth]

im still waiting for games workshop to finish their ragnarok allegory and have leman russ show up with a lost primarch whos wearing a magic boot

[idle phoenix]

Fair, but all I'm saying is maybe from a gameplay perspective it could be a pseudonym but Dan Abnet likes to write tragedy with a narrative focus on development

[late osprey]

well, the other reason is because they wanted to make it more of an allegory of toxic masculinity per the production people

but seeing angelina jolie naked was probably a non-zero factor

[storm jungle]

Yeah but

its hot

so

also boobs make any historical re-telling better, trust me

[winged jacinth]

i think in the poem grendel's mom is also a monster

[storm jungle]

Even better

I MEAN

yeah thats messed up

[winged jacinth]

and then beowulf goes and fights a dragon and gets fucking killed

[late osprey]

grendyl has nothing to do with the poetic grendel of any sort, unless grendyl turns out to be a satanic inbred descended from cain

[late osprey]

in the original poem, they essentially have nothing to do with the dragon, in fact the helot adventure is arguably completely unrelated to the actual dragon battle

in the movie, they make it so the dragon is his son

[idle phoenix]

Outside of speculation, can you 100% say that he isn't the big bad at the end of the story?

[late osprey]

i mean anything can happen

[idle phoenix]

He's been suspiciously quiet-- my thought is that he's been compromised and the reason they're radio silent, after presumably hundreds of years with boots on the ground is because something is being culled

[late osprey]

he's probably just ludicrously addicted to the idea of OpSec

[idle phoenix]

And with the narrative and allegorical elements, especially with Dan Abnets use of INquisitors passing a line, it's not a long stretch

[crystal forum]

he speaks during the arbites intro scene

[late osprey]

which isn't entirely out of character for being an inquisitor

[idle phoenix]

Or its a pre-recording

[crystal forum]

why would he pre record a sudden change of events

[late osprey]

say what you will about the beowulf movie, the main theme was badass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ojCQc2b_WI

[idle phoenix]

My bad I thought you meant "reject", misread on my part-- he just tells Rannick he's a failure and hangs up

[crystal forum]

that implies that he knew arbites would be called in at some point and he's left hundreds of tapes for situations that might happen in the future

which i hope is true for the sake of funny

[idle phoenix]

I mean its not hard when the war has a direct impact on the imperial tithe, especially with the hits to Moebian steel and lehman russ tanks

[late osprey]

this would be 100% and played with a straight face if this were a batman comic

"Robin. I've pre-recorded 8 billion potential orders."

[idle phoenix]

LMAO batman has prerecorded dozen of videos in case of his death

"Alfred, activate operation guano knightfall"

[winged jacinth]

yeah lol he literally just wanders off to go do something else heroic and gets fucking owned, cant win em all!

[idle phoenix]

My whole point in even bringing up the name thing is because it's been almost 10/10 based on how characters were designed and the covalent meaning behind their name. Not impossible to make the reach, and something tickles me that Grendyl is a big baddie

[winged jacinth]

this is a nice idle task to do while im sitting through lecture
what the fuck is jones reagent supposed to be

chromium trioxide in sulfuric acid? who tf comes up with that
i mean Jones did but still

[crystal forum]

how would it tie into the game's plot if he's heretic or otherwise

[arctic talon]

he has his own goals

Grendyl is evil because he's an inqusitor

imo

[crystal forum]

he's clearly not pro nurgle at least

[near wasp]

I agree

[idle phoenix]

I mean why protect Atoma at all? The forges have been cold for some time, entire hab blocks have been quarantined for hundreds of years, Grendyl has been gone for quite some time, the Mourningstar is cursed for some reason, we have 2 aeldari corsair ships hovering around for some reason....

[crystal forum]

what if he's pro khorne and sends in all the rejects to die and give power to him

[idle phoenix]

Because it could mean that we're pushing the agenda of something that doesn't quite align with the Imperium directive

And touting the rosette to do so is almost theatrical

[arctic talon]

He

[winged jacinth]

a bunch of the forges are still running

[near wasp]

Because atomas important

[arctic talon]

yeah that

lol

[near wasp]

And it's not completely lost yet

[winged jacinth]

we just dont go there because they're running

and not full of heretics to kill

[idle phoenix]

No but we've destroyed far more important planets just cause they might be tyranid food, regardless of their importance

[crystal forum]

is it related to electroplating

[winged jacinth]

no it oxidizes alcohols

[near wasp]

But why hasn't Armageddon been destroyed then

Same reason they are important

[idle phoenix]

Tertium means 3 in high gothic, we know of ONE other hive city that went dark...wyrmwood agents being outed and killed almost immediately after being deployed to the sister city...

[near wasp]

And also it's not that bad yet, there's not even Marines around

[idle phoenix]

3 or 3rd*

[crystal forum]

yes but does it have a purpose for the game development? fatshark has mainly added new lore elements to hint at or go along with game additions afaik

[winged jacinth]

the third city might be a secret or it might just not exist, we dont know when atoma was settled

a hive might have come and gone in 15000 years or something

[idle phoenix]

Just going based off of names, Tertium translates to 3 in latin

which implies a 1 and a 2

and we definitely know of one other hive city

[winged jacinth]

yeah im saying city 1 might have worn out a long time ago we dont know

tertium is falling apart even without chaos

the atmospheric shield is going etc

[idle phoenix]

For the purpose of game development, it's a narrative scope-- and can introduce so many elements like genestealers, which can be an enemy NPC faction

[queen laurel]

the favored grove of Biology

[winged jacinth]

i assume hive secundus or whatever will be a chaos wastes type deal like a lot of others do

[idle phoenix]

then why risk so much to protect it? Metal isn't worth it when an entire planet is failing anyways to confirmed genestealer cults, nurgle water infestation, and failing atmosphereic shields. Not to mention it's a toxic wasteland outside the hive

[crystal forum]

40k planets sometimes use their position in their star system as a name. tertium isn't unique to have that name

[winged jacinth]

imperium moment

its still making tanks NOW

[crystal forum]

lots of secundus's around

[idle phoenix]

It is if the planet is Atoma Prime, which kind of insuates the "most important" but I could be reaching

[winged jacinth]

we get lines about them getting the rite of steel working in active, controlled manufactories

[idle phoenix]

Primus = first

[crystal forum]

Istvan doesn't even bother going that far, it just puts the number after the system's name

[arctic talon]

Atoma Prime is the capital of the Atoma System

lol

thats why its got that

[idle phoenix]

Again, importance of names

[winged jacinth]

atoma prime was probably the first/only planet settled

(in the system)

[crystal forum]

to me that's like saying istvan III had significance in its name

[winged jacinth]

it was secretly the REAL earth...

[idle phoenix]

Not by itself, but if Istvan III had Istvania Prime then that pushes it ahead of the others, at least from a laymans perspective

[winged jacinth]

the imperium does a LOT of "naming stuff in the order they start using it"

istvan III is (probably?) the third planet from the star, istvania prime was probably the first city in the system

[idle phoenix]

Exactly!

And I made up Istvania prime its not a real city, at least as far as I know

just as an example

[winged jacinth]

yeah i was thinking i was pretty sure istvan III was unsettled

its like a horrid shitworld iirc

before they make it worse

[rose thorn]

Feel like 40K is missing a lot of South American representation but I have no proof

It’s just an aura

[winged jacinth]

everyone in 40k is british thats the dystopia

[rose thorn]

Very true

[winged jacinth]

the istvan III naming is something we do now though

when we discover exoplanets we name them based on distance from the star (once we think we've found all the ones we will)

[rose thorn]

The only thing I can think of that actually could represent South America is the Pauper Princes 😭

[winged jacinth]

see Trappist IV

[crystal forum]

it's also missing quite a lot of asian representation that isn't china, japan or an amalgamation

[rose thorn]

Their home plant is apparently basically Brazil

[crystal forum]

there's like one titan legion that's indian themed

[rose thorn]

Yeah south east Asia basically has nothing

Russia, China, Japan, and Mongolia have reps but I think that’s it? I can’t remember the Chinese rep tho

[arctic talon]

white scars

Sorry bad joke

there's a guard regiment

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[rose thorn]

I get the reference lmao

[arctic talon]

There's a few guard regiments rather

there's also a few other things

random bits and bobs mostly due to how GW likes to write

[rose thorn]

I know AOS has some India reps

[crystal forum]

and because marketing wise it's mostly just the big names that get the attention

[rose thorn]

Tahlia is supposed to be Indian

[crystal forum]

if you want your greek or roman though 40k has you covered

[rose thorn]

And apparently in her book she is written like that

[arctic talon]

Oh

individual characters?

There's def more in that instance

lol

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

I thought you meant subfactions or smthing

lol

[rose thorn]

I only said her because she’s the most important character in cities

But I was referring to sub factions and stuff

[crystal forum]

if it's a prominent racial demographic in london it probably will get represented

[arctic talon]

there probably is some subfaction

that is Indian

I just don't know it bcs I'm blind lol

Oh yeah there were the Tiger Claws which were an astral claws sucessor

yes you can make fun of the name

GW was not being very creative

[crystal forum]

there's lots of random characters that seem british indian

[arctic talon]

yeah that also

[jade holly]

And Scandinavian through the Space Wolves I assume?

[arctic talon]

but the Tiger Claws tried to ring the alarm bells when the Astral Claws went traitor

and Huron kind of killed them all and wore them like a puppet

[crystal forum]

and the entire faction of votaan

[rose thorn]

looks up Warhammer India
the most racist kitbash models i ever seen come up

[late osprey]

most IG kitbashing is very disappointing

"Hey guys here's just an actual IRL historical army that I gave lasguns."

[arctic talon]

tbf

[late osprey]

and IG fans start losing their minds like they saw the kitbashing equivalent of mozart

[arctic talon]

it works

but yeah

I've seen some really interesting kitbashes

[crystal forum]

funny thing is that's pretty much how GW does minor guard regiments

[arctic talon]

that also would cost like

an arm and a leg

and your liver

[late osprey]

yeah exactly

[rose thorn]

I know tempest eye is pretty chinese

[late osprey]

and it gives me an aneurysm just how little effort goes into integrating the aesthetics into the setting

[crystal forum]

hey still better than differently coloured space marines

[arctic talon]

thats

not a kitbash Jay

[crystal forum]

i love my diet russians (valhallans)

[arctic talon]

thats just a paint scheme

[late osprey]

id like valhallans if they wore actual flak armor but kept the ushankas, at least TRY to pretend they're all part of the same setting

[crystal forum]

how does one kitbash a space marine without just adding a bunch of bits to the model and making it a named character

[arctic talon]

Wdym

[late osprey]

"oh yeah actually they're wearing flak armor see their coats are bulletproof" 🤪

[arctic talon]

If you want to make them a specific cultural influence use stuff from that culture

[crystal forum]

hey i dont even like flak armor

[arctic talon]

and integrate it into 40k

with greenstuff work

A lot of kitbashes are bare effort

though

[crystal forum]

WW2 soldiers didn't wear shit

so my russians dont either

[late osprey]

if the standard was that they were all wearing just normal clothes and no armor and it was lore that the cadians were unique in wearing their armor

that'd be one thing

but GW's like "oh yeah it's actually all flak-rated armor that's standard issue, just some people have inexplicably more advanced versions"

[rose thorn]

i feel like lethis is based off something bu idk what

[late osprey]

will never not mald over that

[crystal forum]

wdym advanced

it's all just flak

none of it really protects you

[arctic talon]

Flak does protect you

tbf

[late osprey]

a solid block that you wear over your chest that has the same stopping power as actually comfortable clothing

is very crude compared to the latter

[arctic talon]

its the roofs

[late osprey]

or not stopping power

protection

whatever

[arctic talon]

I don't remember what its from

[rose thorn]

its in an overwatch map right???

[arctic talon]

No like

the irl architecture

[crystal forum]

i haven't seen it stated that they provide the same level of protection. just tabletop wise

[arctic talon]

LOL

but I'm sure its probably in overwatch as well or something

[rose thorn]

i only recognize it from overwatch 😭 lmao

[late osprey]

nah i swear its literally like "Yeah the mordian's dress clothes are actually technobabble-mesh that is just as protective of flak armor"

[rose thorn]

i cant put my finger on it

peru?

[late osprey]

i'll find the specific source in time

[crystal forum]

yeah the valhallan and krieg coats count as flak. personally i like to think it's worse than actual vests though

[late osprey]

also dark heresy makes them equally protective

the only real rationalization i can consider is that they're wearing hard-protection under the clothes

[crystal forum]

i like the chestplates that krieg engineers get

[late osprey]

which especially in the big coat-wearers' cases isn't too outrageous

[arctic talon]

go go chinese pagoda

Thank you tempests eye

Tempests eye is kind of an east asian clusterfuck tbh

[queen laurel]

this is the magical city of sigmar right

[arctic talon]

now that I actually look at the roofing more

yes

[crystal forum]

at this point from all the stuff i've learned second hand from dark heresy, i will chose to ignore such things

[rose thorn]

yeah lmao

[crystal forum]

call it gameplay reasons

same as a video game

[rose thorn]

yeah, the one taht can see the future

(AND A MEMEBER OF THE GRAND CONCALVE SOLD THEIR MILITARY ADVANTAGE TO THE FUCKING SKAVEN)

(THE CITY IS ACTIVELY BEING INVADED BY SKAVEN SPIES)

[queen laurel]

they never learn huh

[arctic talon]

add this shit to a city of sigmar GW

no balls

[rose thorn]

peak

[arctic talon]

Money moment

[rose thorn]

mf accepting bribes from the rats that eat childern

[queen laurel]

imagine they just have this as their interpretation of dracothion inside the temple

[arctic talon]

They seemed like good people

weird rodent shaped people

smh

genuinely wtf did they even get

as a bribe

money?

warpstone?

[rose thorn]

cannonical appearance of sun dragons btw

[late osprey]

cheese

if there's one thing skaven are excellent connoisseurs of

[queen laurel]

They seemed like good people

[rose thorn]

ilu excelsis

monster hunter ass architecture

[queen laurel]

me personally i'm in for the smog ridden city that is Greywater Fastness

[rose thorn]

one of the only two cities of sigmar where you can get chemically addicted to the money

[sly ivy]

Best city

[rose thorn]

man they really cashed out by being the german themed city of sigmar

[crystal forum]

german or germanic

[rose thorn]

whats the difference?

[crystal forum]

it's called germany

not gerfew

smh

[queen laurel]

yessir

[rose thorn]

i use ot think the fucking city was on fire in this pic

[arctic talon]

they should let the sylvaneth in

LET US IN

[rose thorn]

BUT NO THATS JUST HOW THE CITY LOOKS

[queen laurel]

NO YOU GUYS ATE FRED

[arctic talon]

We didn't eat him smh

The zombies ate him

[hallow saddle]

smh

[arctic talon]

IT GOES HARD

THE FIRES OF INDUSTRY NEVER END

[arctic talon]

which city/town lol

[rose thorn]

im glad hammerhal took a page out of greywater fastness and just point thier entire industry towards war mongering properganda

[queen laurel]

excelsis

[arctic talon]

no like

[rose thorn]

i have only played world

[arctic talon]

Oh

so Astera or I forgot what it was called

[rose thorn]

i dotn remember i never got far in the game

[arctic talon]

this place

I do love how varied the architecture gets in monster hunter

tbh

[rose thorn]

oh wow its alot more pirate than i remember

[queen laurel]

it is Astera

[rose thorn]

OH YEAH

[arctic talon]

They don't treat humanity as like one culture beyond the hunters guild lol

[rose thorn]

THE OTHER CITY THAT USES DRUGS ARE A CURREENCY

[arctic talon]

Oh

the one in Shyish?

[rose thorn]

yup

misthaven

they are so lucky that sigmar put the astral templars there instead of hte knights of excelsis

knights excelsior*

[arctic talon]

I do think its kind of disapointing wilds has very little like

[rose thorn]

the astral templars stopped even bothering stopping the mass drug production

[arctic talon]

large architetural stuff

There's ancient ruins and stuff but its not the same as actively lived in stuff

The villages are neat but they're mostly much smaller(which is fine)

[queen laurel]

You're telling me the drug producers didn't stop producing drugs even when the literal Immortal champions of war are posted up in their territory?

[arctic talon]

I just wish that they were bigger and we got to see more of the native populations like architecture lol

[rose thorn]

yeah

[arctic talon]

Yes

[queen laurel]

they are some ballsy ass motherfuckers

[arctic talon]

There's this one short story

where a necromancer

keeps on inviting a stormcast

whenever they finish their temple

and then a few months later the stormcast come to destroy it

lol

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

and this has been going on for like

20+ years

[queen laurel]

BAHAHAHAHAH

[rose thorn]

thats just how bad the drug production is

the astral templars now jsut go and stop the dangerous drugs

[arctic talon]

these 2 towns for MH are in the same game btw lol

[rose thorn]

holy shit

ACK FLASH BACKS TO THE MONSTER HUNTER MOVIE

[arctic talon]

God

[queen laurel]

And you just reminded me of something I wanted to forget

[arctic talon]

that movie was awful

what a fucking disgrace lol

[rose thorn]

its not only a spit in the face to monster hunter

[tough haven]

If the reactor of a tomb world was overloading, would its inhabitants try to flee/phase away? Or would they try to stop it?

[rose thorn]

ITS OBSEENLY RACIST

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Try to stop it, if it fails phase away

[tough haven]

I imagine warriors wouldn’t even react

[arctic talon]

The best game in terms of diverse towns/cities in monster hunter is like Monster hunter 4U

which is super diverse

[queen laurel]

what about wilds how does it hold up in that stuff

[rose thorn]

let me note that

[queen laurel]

i'm guessing not much

[rose thorn]

oh yeah the most evil city of sigmar

what is settlers gain evne based on?

[arctic talon]

Val habar, Harth, Cathar are all very distinct. Also cheeko but thats just a shipwreck and mostly felynes

[arctic talon]

aesthetically?

[rose thorn]

yeah

[arctic talon]

Orthodox church/persian stuff

[rose thorn]

oh makes sense

[arctic talon]

also some European stuff

mostly West europe

[queen laurel]

damn this is pretty good

[rose thorn]

didnt expect high elves to be european

[arctic talon]

also some greek stuff

now that I look at it longer

tbh

[arctic talon]

The locations are diverse but like, Only Kunafa I'd really call original architecture

The other native populations do have distinct cultures

but are living in ruins so all their architecture goes around that stuff

[queen laurel]

OHH THE CHEESE VILLAGE

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Don't get me wrong Azuz is like

really cool

[rose thorn]

i think the living city isnt based off antyhign besides druids

[arctic talon]

but it also is like built in ruins

maybe the bridges

tbh

but besides that yeah

[queen laurel]

What the fucj is the name of that one

[rose thorn]

The Living City?

[queen laurel]

so pretty decent?

[arctic talon]

like azuz is cool but its built on ruins

[rose thorn]

OOO i liek the stalagtite stuff

and the vase shaped stuff

[arctic talon]

Its really fun

[queen laurel]

the entire place is also covered by oil by the way

[arctic talon]

The newer bronze stuff

is the non ruined stuff

[queen laurel]

so at certain times the entire place can literally just catch fire

[arctic talon]

and is what the Azuz people have rebuilt

[rose thorn]

*note to self fsteal ideas from MH

[arctic talon]

over the ages

On the otherhand the really really old stuff

is all caked in oil

and stuff

[queen laurel]

the people there are unbelievably heat resistant

jesus christ

[arctic talon]

Oilwell basin is a really fun swamp environment

because its not just a normal swamp

its an oil swamp

[late osprey]

isn't Sigmarsheim like a literal giant space-station type city

how is anybody attacking that

[rose thorn]

?

[arctic talon]

the fallow, the inclemancy and then the plenty

The inclemancy is uh

[rose thorn]

you meaen uh, the city in azyr

[arctic talon]

fire

[late osprey]

i remember something about how Sigmar's capital is a ring in space

[arctic talon]

azuz gets a lot hotter along with the rest of the basin

[rose thorn]

in age of sigmar, in azyr the city that makes lal of the stormcast stuff is on a meteor let me get it

[arctic talon]

that one iirc has never been attacked

most of Azyr hasn't been touched by chaos in general

[rose thorn]

mallus

god i fucking love aos

[late osprey]

that's the one

[rose thorn]

the city in azyr is Azyrheim

[late osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_ZfXRSpnqQ

[rose thorn]

basically lmao

[queen laurel]

it's also home to this inflatable nightmare looking bastard

[arctic talon]

Monster Hunter Online also has some interesting like villages. Though the actual events and monsters of the game are non canon the locations are real

Milard and mezeporte are pretty unique

[rose thorn]

WOAHA

[tough haven]

MH: GPU killer

[arctic talon]

funnily enough Mezeporta has a much older iteration in frontiers for a specific "gate" area

[arctic talon]

every monster hunter game starting with World has had godawful optimization lol

[rose thorn]

yeahhhhhhh

[tough haven]

I wanted to play MH but then I remember the fucking literal spreadsheet of work for most aspects of the game

[arctic talon]

The old games are still great though

[rose thorn]

i wnana make a city of sigmar based off a planet in endless space 2

[arctic talon]

eh its not that bad

[rose thorn]

let me find it

[arctic talon]

you don't need to like

Do any of that at all

until G-rank stuff

which isn't in Monster hunter Wilds(yet)

[tough haven]

Also it’s just so much grind

[arctic talon]

okay yeah that part is

yeah

LOL

also Gildegaran which is only in monster hunter stories but I'd assume the city is real even if the games events aren't canon lol

[tough haven]

Like I’ve got so many games to play and finish I feel like if I bought Wilds I’d either never play my games, or never play wilds

[arctic talon]

Yeah just

play your games

tbh the best way to play

the newer monster hunter games

if you're casual

is to wait until the DLC comes out

then buy it

[rose thorn]

oh yeah the Bhagaba's homeplanet lmao

[arctic talon]

its a fuck ton of content that you can work through slowly

[arctic talon]

oh thats sick

[rose thorn]

lmao

[arctic talon]

I mean its true

lol

Monster hunter games have(historically) not launched complete

since fucking monster hunter 2

it might be one of the oldest live service games around

[rose thorn]

their homeplanet, by pure random chance, became a giant fucking super computer

[arctic talon]

Thats

insane lol

[tough haven]

Also it’s probably only fun with friends and idk if they’d even play it with me

[rose thorn]

using the movements of rocks and coral growth

[arctic talon]

Eh its def fun solo

imo

but that might be because

I've played monster hunter for years

lol

[rose thorn]

and the accidentally egenerated supercomputer, created life and commited suicide by making a black hole

[arctic talon]

Guh

[queen laurel]

Don't forget 2

Lulucion

[arctic talon]

I haven't played 2

but yes Lulucion is cool

[queen laurel]

i played 2 extensively

[arctic talon]

its like way more industrialized then any other city so far

anyways my most wanted siege monster in Wilds is some monster part of the Mohran ecological family

[rose thorn]

if i remember correctly

[arctic talon]

Giant Land whales

[rose thorn]

its been a whiel since idid their quest line

[rose thorn]

OOOOOOOO

[arctic talon]

mostly docile but their migrations are super destructive

[queen laurel]

There's also Mahana Village

[arctic talon]

so the ones that get too close to villages need to get diverted from villages or slain

[rose thorn]

I FORGOT THEY CAN WEAR CLOTHES 😭

[arctic talon]

that

feels cursed

I do not like that

[arctic talon]

please just keep them naked

[rose thorn]

they are considered a primative species tbf

evne tho they are a pacifist speices that loves talking to people

[arctic talon]

tbf primative != aggresive

[rose thorn]

fiar my bad

i mean like, the species that odnt have civilizations are consdiered primative

[arctic talon]

oh

[rose thorn]

then if i remember species that live in the ruins of the endless are scavangers, and then everything else is based off their politics

wait no sisters of mercy are considered primative

i ahve no clue wahat teh system is

[arctic talon]

The devs pick what they think sounds best

[rose thorn]

Having known only the harsh world of Auriga, the Sisters of Mercy are adapting to the strangeness of life in space with some difficulty. Fortunately, their study and travel with the Vaulters has alleviated some of their shock and sense of displacement. As they attempt to rebuild a functioning society in this alien galaxy, they cling more than ever to their mission: Dispensing death or salvation as the situation merits. The practicing clans of the Sisters of Mercy try hard to separate the relative aspects of any situation--technology, cultural norms, history--from the absolutes of their faith--the belief in a universally applicable sense of right and wrong, and the responsibility to treat harshly those who cross the line between them.

oh yeah real primitive

[arctic talon]

idk

not enough glowy lights

and mood lighting

[rose thorn]

true

i always forget these guys have like, a fully advanced civilziation and use to be a major faction

[arctic talon]

AMOEBA!!!

[rose thorn]

YEAH

THE JELLYFISH HAVE IPHONES

[arctic talon]

tbh I think the one monster hunter game that suffers the most in terms of locations for civilizations

Is like 3

because it has underwater combat

so all the gen 3 vilages/cities need to have a body of water nearby

[rose thorn]

lmao

what do they look like?

[arctic talon]

Moga, Yukumo(there's a giant lake), port tanzia, and Loc Lac

doesn't mean they weren't creative but

all of them are trade ports/fishing related

[rose thorn]

fair

[arctic talon]

Loc Lac is prolly the most unique since its a desert town thats primarily accessed via sandship

[rose thorn]

note to self, coral could be a cool material to homebrew aorund

[arctic talon]

But it also has an ocean like right next to it

[arctic talon]

Coral Highlands monster hunter world

[winged jacinth]

Ah mh3... my beloved

[arctic talon]

if you've never seen it

you should

I started in MH4U

[rose thorn]

HOLY SHIT LMAO

[winged jacinth]

I need to get back into wilds so i can fight lagiacrus again

[arctic talon]

that was the game my cousin bought me to convert me

and boy did it work

she did in fact convert me

[rose thorn]

i hope the older mosnterhunters get ported ot pc id love to play them

[arctic talon]

The coral highlands are super pretty yeah

[winged jacinth]

Ive been begging for land only lagiacrus to make a comeback, ivory lagi was land only already

[arctic talon]

tbh

Lagi in Wilds Isn't land only(technically)

[near wasp]

Hate lagi

[arctic talon]

Lol

having played a rom for 3 underwater combat is def overheated

[near wasp]

That fight annoyed TF outta me

[arctic talon]

its fine

the Underwater portion in wilds is kind of clunky but its a fun callback

[near wasp]

I double fainted to him

[arctic talon]

lol

Let me guess the charge?

or the big shock

[near wasp]

Nope

[arctic talon]

what then, those seem to be the carters when I play online tbh

[near wasp]

The small shock explosion

[arctic talon]

oh

[near wasp]

I clawed onto him only to die

[arctic talon]

The Coral Highlands are also funnily not underwater

[arctic talon]

oh the underwater part

the uh game doesn't tell you this

but the barnacles reduce lagi's charge underwater

if you shoot their spikes

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-gif-20710889

[arctic talon]

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Uh

the game really should tell you this in the tutorial for the underwater portion

but it doesn't

you basicially need to do it to open windows properly

[near wasp]

Underwater makes it hard for me cause I'm a hammer main

[arctic talon]

Lagi also can be cluched onto underwater without consequences for the (upper body) during tail slam and (anywhere) during the lighting balls

[near wasp]

Hard to hit monster in face when he constantly spews lightning

[arctic talon]

tbh

underwater you just don't worry about anything else but hitting them whereever

Its kind of counter intuitive because hitzones matter a lot outside of that

but aside from barnicles to the spikes just beat the crap out of wherever you can hang on with the clutch claw

[rocky gale]

Might be getting your wish, 3rd party store I usually order from is now selling it at a 35% discount. It must not be selling.

[arctic talon]

Dominion 2

[rocky gale]

50 minis for £120, that's the best cost ratio for any GW material in the past 15 years.

[rose thorn]

For 40k*

The free dominions are unbeatable

[rocky gale]

Wait there were free Dominion boxes?

[rose thorn]

One of the adepticons I believe gave visitors with a premium pass a free dominion box

I’ve seen ppl buy it fo 40 dollars tho lmao

But I guess we’re the suckers because literlaly the only good thing in that box in 4th edition is the knight arcanum

[rocky gale]

I thought the Dominion box was cool

[arctic talon]

GW massively overproduced it

The same is up with saturnine

Except even worse

Based on how early they’re being discounted

[crystal forum]

nah saturnine just has way less interest than GW expected

[arctic talon]

Dominion was being sold full price for a year

[arctic talon]

Nah element games had a bunch of canceled pre orders

Same with LGSs

It’s uh rough

[rocky gale]

Yea 35% off when it's not even left preorder is nuts

[crystal forum]

that's because people dont want it

[arctic talon]

GW def overproduced

Massively

[crystal forum]

you only overproduce if your expectations are wrong

[arctic talon]

Yeah

And their expectations were wrong lol

[crystal forum]

so stop saying no!!!

they thought saturnine would sell like crazy

[arctic talon]

Yes

We’re literally agreeing

Wait nvm I misread what you initially swnt

💀

[crystal forum]

idk what they expected tbh

it's just marines, termies and a dread

[arctic talon]

Age of darkness sold insanely well

[crystal forum]

most HH people already own all that

[arctic talon]

Surely this will sell insanely well

Ignore the fact heresy 3e

Is incredibly controversial in the heresy fanbase