Alternative timeline Orokin empire
#40k-lore-chat
languid meadow
rose thorn
hey im doing my class project on this server and im just stuck on one thing. How well do poeple usually respond when you tell them about cultural stuff
languid meadow
I think it depends on the culture
rose thorn
i have to make a 'cultural competetance plan' which i will nto be executing because i assume were all mature adults
sly ivy
hey im doing my class project on this server and im just stuck on one thing. How...
No 1 respects my cultural insights or my uproariously funny jokes
I’m persecuted & oppressed
rose thorn
noted
sly ivy
i have to make a 'cultural competetance plan' which i will nto be executing beca...
No I am the only mature adult on this server.
rocky gale
Kaggen should be ignored as a statistical outlier
sly ivy
No i must remain as an aspirational example & beacon
arctic talon
hey im doing my class project on this server and im just stuck on one thing. How...
Usually well? Rather they want to listen lol
It depends though
sly ivy
O I was talking about on here. @arctic talon erases and persecutes me incessantly
arctic talon
Yea in what context?
It depends™ lol
dapper gyro
I'm here so I don't have to be mature.
rocky gale
dapper gyro
That's how you get disappointed.
storm jungle
<:catstare:1232116094106472538>
Man heres hoping
dapper gyro
I don't like to stop people from dreaming, but I don't want them to hurt themselves neither.
opaque coyote
hey im doing my class project on this server and im just stuck on one thing. How...
It is dependant on what material you are asking about
Generally I don't think people mind if you ask about aspects like
Food Staples, Mythology, etc.
If you get into things like more modern history, religion, or race relations
You're playing with fire.
Especially if it's a genocide
raven stone
https://youtu.be/JvtNg1pM2oc?si=xb56F49Pva6QE331
Wait is that human Harrow and Wisp
sly ivy
Answers range from "We didn't do shit" to "Yeah, and they fucking deserve it"
Lmfao
I still don’t kno whether the q is about intra-server or real life
hallow saddle
Ironkin Chads
rocky gale
Man heres hoping
Commorragh is built on Hope
near wasp
Hope for what, not getting soul sucked by slanesh?
rocky gale
Hope for what, not getting soul sucked by slanesh?
It's suck or be sucked
storm jungle
It's suck or be sucked
winter vessel
It's suck or be sucked
near wasp
Why TF did you have that on demand
winter vessel
When he says “suck” it sounds like a gasp of excitement
near wasp
That felt so fucking specific
winter vessel
Regardless, the casting for Johnny Cage in the upcoming MK2…definitely not who I was expecting
sacred ginkgo
Depends on who shoots first usually
near wasp
Arbites usually lack gear needed to take down heavy targets
Shot guns and shock mauls would have a hard time even if aimed for weaker gorgets
sacred ginkgo
if you want the most direct comparison go grab the weapon stats from the Exaction Squad killteam and compare them with the stats from a marine in the same system
vagrant fox
In the really vague and nebulous area of it depends
I don't see most of the arbites weapons doing much but they have access to bolters and krak grenades, so depending on the author between one or about sixty
arctic talon
Hope for what, not getting soul sucked by slanesh?
The prisoners hope
arctic talon
How many arbitrators does it take to kill one regular astartes
what are the arbites armed with
what ammo
is it just normal ammo?
crisp sonnet
They have that heat signature tracking ammo or whatever their shotguns are loaded with
the tracing bullets
arctic talon
Executioner rounds? kk
crisp sonnet
aimbot type shit
arctic talon
no melee?
prolly like 2-4
somewhere in that range
executioner rounds are armor piercing
arctic talon
well
crisp sonnet
to an astartes
arctic talon
shock mauls are dangerous to power armor
on max charge
shock mauls do not stun people
they fry them
arctic talon
my answer stands as 3-4 if they have executioner rounds\
all it takes is a lucky shot to the head
with an executioner round and the marine is cooked
arctic talon
well
they'd prolly be cooked
terminator armor is thick enough to shrug off bolter fire
executioner rounds are AP bolt rounds but weird
sour hornet
Warhammer fans when challenged to read one (1) Black Library book
winter vessel
nocturne crest
So odd question, but do you think T'au allow their Gue'vesa to experiment with Imperium's tech?
languid meadow
all of the humans who join the tau are probably not well versed in their own tech besides "how to turn on and off, and how to make sure it doesn't explode"
So they just let the earth caste tinker with it since it's their whole purpose
keen sonnet
sharp pollen
do necrons identify themselves as bald
opaque coyote
Their species does not seem to have hair
They might actually do
They just never keep it for long
Cause of the
Cancer, and the treatments they would have to delay it.
frail cedar
Do we have any instances of non Astartes/Custodes/Sororitas using Power Glaives?
opaque coyote
And their radioactive sun
Like not regular
I mean like extremely radioactive even for a star
paper haven
It was rough
crystal forum
GW should have gone with the explanation that their planet's magnetosphere was weak
stars can strip a planet of its atmosphere without even going into the really strong ones
a pulsar can melt a planet just with gamma rays
opaque coyote
stars can strip a planet of its atmosphere without even going into the really st...
Tbf I think that piece of lore was made before pulsars were discovered.
But that sounds good also
Definitely could've implemented it in the rewrite
Although, I still find it funny that even when the Necrons escaped
They just
Kept getting super cancer
Even while away from their star
Because it wasn't just cancer
It was magical super cancer
Although I genuinely wonder why they never went the same way as the mechanicus
Like replacing their flesh with machinery before the whole bio transference thing
Probably brain cancer
Although I wonder.
Maybe if they didn't have the soul cancer. They would've lived as long as Eldar.
Actually wouldn't that be ironic?
That they technically already had their immortality. But their very affliction prevents them from ever getting it.
crystal forum
Tbf I think that piece of lore was made before pulsars were discovered.
But tha...
pulsars were first discovered in the 60's and observed in the 70's
dapper gyro
Unlike EliteWolf, I would say 8 to 10 regular arbitrators vs 1 SM. Despite the description of the weapons, arbitratior's executioner gun needs time to acquire the target and the "aimbot" ammunition is not infallible.
dapper gyro
How many arbitrators does it take to kill one regular astartes
I think in one of the books, a group of scion can put an arbitrator fortress in shambles at no loss. It is true that they got the first shot advantage, but after a dozen arbitrators went down, they should have brought out bigger guns, but even then it wasn't enough.
Even for scion, killing SM needs a squad prepared squad, knowing the target they are dealing with, with heavy weapons. So arby needs a bigger squad. Edit: 1st half of the message is above.
celest dome
Arbites vs SM really depend on how the combat goes.
Usually Arbites fight in places they know and in more defensive positions
dapper gyro
Terrain is important
In city, arby has the upper hand. However, some stuff like SM reiver and especially incursor would delete the arbitrators. Those SM are more specialized, but still just normal SM.
dapper gyro
If lasgun can make some SM pay caution, then SC marines can make SM run away.
queen laurel
If lasgun can make some SM pay caution, then SC marines can make SM run away.
on an individual to individual basis an sm with this one for sure but an SC marine never comes alone
dapper gyro
SC gauss gun is more powerful vs armour than pretty much any heavy bolter in 40K.
queen laurel
SC gauss gun is more powerful vs armour than pretty much any heavy bolter in 40K...
Yeah it's a magnetic automatic rifle
dapper gyro
If anyone argues about "but SC gauss gun is only .50"... Yeah, .50 bolter from the era before the imperium also shredded the SM.
queen laurel
If anyone argues about "but SC gauss gun is only .50"... Yeah, .50 bolter from t...
i mean ballistic weaponry in the setting can get crazy
So a miniaturised fully automatic rail gun
would definitely punch a hole through marine armor
dapper gyro
on an individual to individual basis an sm with this one for sure but an SC mari...
If the SC marine shoots first, then the SM is already dead by the time he can turn his head.
queen laurel
If the SC marine shoots first, then the SM is already dead by the time he can tu...
Yeah but if it's like an even playing field the marine would win
not a discredit to SC marines of course
dapper gyro
At 1800 rpm for an individual weapon, nothing in 40K even comes close. 30 rounds more powerful than heavy bolt per second is something.
dapper gyro
Yeah but if it's like an even playing field the marine would win
Yes. Elite of the elite vs rejects and conscripts. The SM does have a higher chance of winning
Also, SC marine suit can be operated by woman! To piss on the erratical 40K fans' wounds.
celest dome
I think if we took 2 planet of the same industrial power and gave them 100 years, the one with the Starcraft Tech would win over the one that specialised in Space Marines
queen laurel
I think if we took 2 planet of the same industrial power and gave them 100 years...
i mean
terrans would fight dirty and use every advantage they could get
And they have a much more varied arsenal
dapper gyro
terrans would fight dirty and use every advantage they could get
I mean, if it is a war, nothing is dirty.
queen laurel
I mean, if it is a war, nothing is dirty.
yeah but marines are well marines they have things like you know what they should honor what they should you know do what they should follow stuff like that
terrans don't really have those things
they are much more flexible in their war mindset is what i'm trying to say
dapper gyro
I think that's why I like SC and Halo more. They are more ground on the image of a soldier.
queen laurel
I think that's why I like SC and Halo more. They are more ground on the image of...
yeah it's great
dapper gyro
You know, 40k people downplayed terran equipment, which led to them downplaying the other faction like protoss and zerg as well.
queen laurel
You know, 40k people downplayed terran equipment, which led to them downplaying ...
I mean 40K fans think their setting is the hot shit forgetting that DC over there has a character that could clap his *** cheeks and suddenly the entire 40K setting gone
arctic talon
You know, 40k people downplayed terran equipment, which led to them downplaying ...
kid named voidray
queen laurel
Between Tyranids, Zerg and the Flood.
i mean that's just common sense
the damn thing can convince an AI to side with itself
celest dome
Aye
And get the memories of all that fall to it
I'd be interested in seeing how the Hivemind react to it starting to encroach on the Synaptic system
Thinking of the Zerg, the Alexei Stukov faction was such a good idea
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/infested-terran-starcraft-zerg-portrait-gif-15200169
Yeah it's a great sub faction of infested Terrance
but for me i would go with primal zerg
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/infested-terran-starcraft-zerg-portrait-gif-15200169
especially my goat
celest dome
Yeah it's a great sub faction of infested Terrance
I feel like it could be a cool variation on GSC
queen laurel
I feel like it could be a cool variation on GSC
aren't they already humans
celest dome
Sure, but more as in dead Human and human tech parasited by Tyr into gross flesh suits
GSC are somewhat clean per se
queen laurel
GSC are somewhat clean per se
i can see that
opaque coyote
If lasgun can make some SM pay caution, then SC marines can make SM run away.
Tbf it's more a crowd of them
If you're using only one
Unless if you decide to overcharge it to the point of being in danger of having it explode or if you somehow aim at a certain angle (good luck with that)
You're probably fucked
Btw the overcharge is more like a chance
But since you're up against an SM.
You're gonna die whether or not the Lasgun explodes or the SM gets to you
So might as well.
Now if you have like 10 people firing in a straight line
Now the SM is probably be scared
Or well "scared" in terms of
"I'm not stupid enough to just run to my death easily"
dapper gyro
Even a platoon of lasgun is still lasgun if they can kill a SM. In comparison, a platoon of rifleman with only rifle would have hard time to disable an up-armoured humvee.
opaque coyote
Even a platoon of lasgun is still lasgun if they can kill a SM. In comparison, a...
True.
Still though, it depends whether it's a 1v1 situation or not
I think SC Marines could win a 1v1.
But most likely only a 30%
Chance?
Not because they lack the power. Mainly because SMs have enhanced reflexes
opaque coyote
Now then here's an interesting fight.
Grot Vs average low ranking Skaven
Both have no weapons
Who would win
dapper gyro
Like, people needs to understand how much of a force muliplier a weapon can be.
arctic talon
Me when pointy stick
dapper gyro
Like the best fighter in the world can't really fight a guy with knife in the street without injure.
opaque coyote
Like, people needs to understand how much of a force muliplier a weapon can be.
The main reason why we went from glorified monkeys to nowish is due to us figuring out
"Holy shit attaching a sharp thing to a stick is awesome."
And we still haven't grown up from that.
We just made it better
And better
And better
And now we have metal tube that shoots out sharp rocks with fire
Who knows what's next
Oh right
Glowy rock inside giant spear that make big fire
dapper gyro
A medival knight can train all his life and be in his peak physical, but telling him to fight vs a guy with handgun? Even a 22lr would finish him quickly.
opaque coyote
A medival knight can train all his life and be in his peak physical, but telling...
That actually depends.
Knight armor was used against guns back in the 1600s.
So 22lr might not
Would hurt though
dapper gyro
Ok, that's fair.
If the SM think that SC Marine is worthless and charge in melee... 1 SC marines can mow down a squad of SM.
arctic talon
Knight armor was pretty good to bullets funnily enough
dapper gyro
Depending on the time frame
dapper gyro
The late armour are heavier to withstand firearms
It was then they decided to not go full set and only keep the essentials.
dapper gyro
When it was still mainly against melee, their armours were lighter.
opaque coyote
Knight armor in general is pretty impressive in how it's designed.
Like sometimes we think of ancient people as dumb. But they somehow managed to make the weight distribution good despite not really doing the math for it
dapper gyro
The breastplate weight is almost doubled to stay bullet proof.
arctic talon
Knight armor in general is pretty impressive in how it's designed.
Like sometim...
People thinking historical people are dumb are stupid
arctic talon
They had less knowledge to work with but we’re as smart as us mostly
dapper gyro
Which is already a heavier piece of plate.
opaque coyote
Imagine seeing a dude in plate armor run towards you during the age where there was only swords, spears, bows, etc.
I would shit my pants
dapper gyro
With hard plate (hard doesn't mean heavy), stopping melee, especially blades, is not too difficult.
opaque coyote
They had less knowledge to work with but we’re as smart as us mostly
Definitely.
I might know more than Isaac Newton.
But I'm definitely not as smart as him bro.
How the fuck do you invent calculus while you're bored
dapper gyro
@opaque coyote easy, lock your phone and internet away.
opaque coyote
"Oh man I'm so bored I guess I'll advance mathematics and technology"
opaque coyote
<@422298575289188353> easy, lock your phone and internet away.
My guy
I would still not do that shit. I mildly dislike math.
arctic talon
@queen laurel
dapper gyro
But then you would do something else, like music, art, etc.
queen laurel
<@783504501561753651>
the monster hunter experience
arctic talon
Jetengine dragon
opaque coyote
Only communicate long range by mail.
Also mail basically became a reflection of Email.
Approx. 90% of it is random fucking spam and offers now
dapper gyro
That is true.
opaque coyote
Gee, now I can get random bullshit on paper
And on screen
Truly advanced technology
To be honest, I have thought about fucking with older computers for no reason
dapper gyro
Since spam knows your address anyway, give me your so we can start the good old distance communition. Fuck discord.
dapper gyro
(It is a joke)
opaque coyote
Also what is your opinion for how agile Space Marines are? Based on both canon and opinion
Personally I like to think they can do some parkour bullshit
Also because it's both terrifying and funny to imagine a Space Marine do a wall up
dapper gyro
Mass and speed is a powerful combination, but the mass could be an issue.
In 40K, most buildings can sustain SM, but it is not the case elsewhere, which could turn the field into death trap, so the speed can't be used there.
sour hornet
Also what is your opinion for how agile Space Marines are? Based on both canon a...
Fast but not like Eldar anime fast.
Their proportions make animating them moving with any degree of grace very very challenging.
Its gotten easier with Mark X and its more balanced proportions, but SM being modeled for tabletop minis first and actually being able to move second, means that SM actually being super agile is mainly gonna be lore fluff.
Like Spartans are way lower on the scale of Supersoldier when it comes to equipment compared to astartes, but Spartans are depicted more agile by an order of magnitude.
dapper gyro
The Youtube astartes, touted as the canon representation of the SM, has a lot of issues of you think a little more closely of it.
sour hornet
dapper gyro
That's fanmade animation...
sour hornet
Im comparing it and astartes since you mentioned it
dapper gyro
Oh, right
sour hornet
I dont know if I agree because the way space marines have to move is a little different
but they aren't really shown in astartes as doing anything particularly acrobatic
dapper gyro
In astartes, if it is lore accurate, not counting the 2 psychic enemies, there would be at least 3 SM died before reaching that point.
sour hornet
The run is dynamic yeah, but Halo 5 literally has Spartan IVs running down a mountain slope at or faster than this, dancing over their foes as they slaughter them and pull them out of vehicles.
winter vessel
Ah one of two openings in H5 storyline for fireteams
celest dome
In astartes, if it is lore accurate, not counting the 2 psychic enemies, there w...
The hidden Autocannon should have killed a couple tbh
celest dome
In a SM book perhaps
dapper gyro
The hidden Autocannon should have killed a couple tbh
The lascannon in the chock point would absolutely delete the one SM exposed to it.
celest dome
Isn't it a Multilaser ?
sour hornet
even though shuriken guns are made to be able to kill space marines
Its a multilaser
A lascannon would have blown his torso open
dapper gyro
Isn't it a Multilaser ?
Even multilas, if squad of lasgun can kill an SM, that would, too.
sour hornet
especially a twin-linked one
celest dome
even though shuriken guns are made to be able to kill space marines
Yes, in SM books. But in non-SM books they fall to those things
Often at least
sour hornet
Astartes is a SM animation
it follows bolterporn rules
whatever allows spehss muhrines to aura farm the hardest is canon
dapper gyro
Well, in the books, some shits are funny.
sour hornet
dapper gyro
Like, a SM reloaded his bolter in half a second. The speed to do it with the mass of the gun and mag itself would tear the gun apart.
dapper gyro
https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-warhammer40k-tactical-marine-bolter-adeptus-...
Also, depite the ammo counter says 20 rounds, they unloaded way more than that on the psychic enemies...
And they have to use hand rail to support with their hand on top... realistically the hand rail would collapse and the SMs fall face first to the floor.
dusky beacon
What do T'au think about using Gue'vesa Primaris Psykers? And Gue'vesa Psykers in general? I know they're cool with the Nicassar
dusky beacon
Or is it an unfortunate case of "It's Xenos and GW dosent care about expanding on anything interesting with Xenos"
pine wedge
Or is it an unfortunate case of "It's Xenos and GW dosent care about expanding o...
bingo
recent 40k stuff is just superhero fiction featuring primarchs
that's where the money seems to be so that's what they focus on
aside from the cool smaller stuff like the crime novels.
sharp pollen
god bless wraithbone phoenix
storm jungle
Yeah thats the most funny part
Tau have been around for a long time and we got almost NO explanation on what they do with human psykers in any capacity lmao
goes to kinda show the lack of worldbuilding effort as ever for non-imperium factions a lot
sharp pollen
Tau have been around for a long time and we got almost NO explanation on what th...
wtf
actually wtf
we need the... Ins-pec-tor Ab-Nett... tu-turu-turu-tu-tooooo
to solve this problem with a novel
(or any other good writer idk)
keen sonnet
Ignoble Kicks legion when
nocturne crest
TIL that great companies change their names based on their leader.
storm jungle
nocturne crest
RIP Ironwolves and Firehowlers.
sharp pollen
does the phrase "the emperor protects" is used only by the inquisition?
or mostly at least
near wasp
Everybody says the emperor protects
sharp pollen
for some reason i had a thought that i hear it only from the members of the 
nocturne crest
Nah, everyone does, from space marines to the lowly guardsmen.
tough haven
god bless wraithbone phoenix
Goddamn right
tough haven
Tau have been around for a long time and we got almost NO explanation on what th...
I mean if farsight novels can be looked at as the standard, the mostly use them to kinda try to understand “mind science” and still fail to do so
storm jungle
I mean if farsight novels can be looked at as the standard, the mostly use them ...
Yeah but that doesnt answer the question
tough haven
The psykers are like “no you don’t understand there’s literally a nightmare dimension clawing into my brain, there’s literal demons” and the Tau are like “yeah right, tell us for real”
sharp pollen
is there a possibility for a midget to be an interrogator, or at least an explicator
or midgets are also abhumans or mutants and hawk tuah on them
tough haven
The psykers are like “no you don’t understand there’s literally a nightmare dime...
Farsight eventually understands and accepts there’s more to the galaxy than they understand
tough haven
Yeah but that doesnt answer the question
Yeah, curse of xenos faction
Imperials get worldbuilding down to what sergeant Whogivesashit ate for breakfast 4 weeks before the battle of Bumfucknowhere
Xenos factions get 3 sentences in a lexicanum article that was painstakingly scraped together from every source imaginable
sharp pollen
<:smoothbrain:910685715690557440>
sorry, but my dad asked this question (no joke)
and i myself would like to know
storm jungle
no
sharp pollen
serious question, not my perverted one
ok thanks
but why...
are midgets a no-no?..
storm jungle
sharp pollen
i actually want to know
storm jungle
because it would look dumb as hell probably lol
sharp pollen
and thats it? i thought there is a better reason...
i can explain to my dad why 4 handed space marine is impossible, but midget-inquisitor - i had to ask it here
so... this is theoretically possible?
like, Rannick could be a midget?
sharp pollen
i havent seen any midgets in any 40k stuff, why are you so angry 
actual lore question i think it is
hallow saddle
imperium hates deviance from their norm
theyd probably be counted as a mutant
and deffo no mutant inquisitors
but half the fun of this setting is making up something new in a way that might work within the setting
so if you can make up a way in which a mutant inquisitor would work, then its possible
sharp pollen
yeah, thats what im thinking about right now - midget at least cant really survive in the big hive until he's really smart, so this can be a start for him... and so on and so on
like Zonkla - came from the hive, a dirty, sweaty, hot, juicy ganger - became an explicator
(but to be honest, didnt inquisition take Zola cause of her link with Wolfer?)
near wasp
Why do I always join convo at the weirdest time
queen laurel
Why do I always join convo at the weirdest time
you spent long enough time here you still haven't gotten used to it?
sharp pollen
Why do I always join convo at the weirdest time
did you miss the "servitor-escort" convo?
dapper gyro
We can make it weirder together if you want to.
lament shoal
Was the Lex Imperialis actually written by the emperor or is that just imperial propaganda?
crisp sonnet
Pretty sure it was
Arbites are a very old faction in the imperium
they predate alot of things
winged jacinth
The lex imperialis was not written by the emperor it was written by Malcador the Sigilite (and maybe some unnamed Lords)
storm jungle
^
Its "claimed" to be written by him for religious reasons
the Emperor didnt give two shits about governing meticulous stuff like that lol
Malcador did every bureucratic stuff
winged jacinth
Also that only applies to lex imperialis 1st edition
They're on like, 2000th edition now
lament shoal
Gotcha
plush mason
i love that in the rogue trader prolog you can interact with the book in the first room you enter and it says its the 800th something edition of the lex imperialis
damn books are basically a collectors item lmao
winged jacinth
I imagine theres no consistency on which version of the lex an arbites branch has access to either lol
plush mason
yeah
winged jacinth
Since the von valancius dynasty backs the arbites of the koronus expanse your copy probably matches
plush mason
you just know there is backwater precent on a frontier world with like some obscure ass edition that is like way outdated
winged jacinth
In fact its probably a gift from them when they were invited to set up on your throneworld
plush mason
maybe
winged jacinth
I mean why else would your copy of the lex be in your chambers lol
plush mason
that who agreement was fairly recent, Theodora herself set it up
winged jacinth
Your room is full of display pieces so it makes sense to me that what's basically a religious icon gifted from powerful allies would be there, and honestly i can't think of another way they'd get a copy besides randomly finding one
You're not actually beholden to the lex so you don't need a copy
celest dome
They're on like, 2000th edition now
And there are most likely multiple editions currently being used
winged jacinth
It would literally be impossible to keep them coordinated i think
celest dome
Probably isn't coordinated tbh
winged jacinth
They like to reinforce how long it is so i doubt its viable to transmit them by astropath
Which seems to follow something closer to telegraph rules
celest dome
I bet it's modbus type communication 
winged jacinth
Astropathy has a fun combination of conflicting descriptions
You do seem to want to minimize message length to avoid astropaths exploding at the very least
sharp pollen
The lex imperialis was not written by the emperor it was written by Malcador the...
**"ATTEND MALCADOR'S WORDS!" 🗣️ **
winged jacinth
Honestly while the emperor thought up the imperium its malcador that built it
crystal forum
a number 2 if you will
celest dome
Honestly while the emperor thought up the imperium its malcador that built it
Everything the Emperor oversaw is the shittiest part
opaque coyote
you just know there is backwater precent on a frontier world with like some obsc...
You go to some random world and they have like
Version 8
crystal forum
what chapter is that
glossy sonnet
what chapter is that
Blood ravens
crystal forum
wow i did not expect their livery to be so ugly
arctic talon
https://www.target.com/p/games-workshop-dawn-of-war-onslaught-board-game/-/A-947...
Huge savings
dapper gyro
Out of stock?
rose thorn
Can’t believe they are actually selling it for a normal price
arctic talon
Not out yet
queen laurel
they made the grey knight battleforce bigger lmao
well at least it's assured that dread night will stay for some reason because after all they got an upgrade kit for it
storm jungle
wow i did not expect their livery to be so ugly
its a stylized artwork
its also an ultramarine painted to look like a blood raven
the original box-art is re-used
lmao
crystal forum
oh wow is that the 9th edition art
storm jungle
yep it is lol
rocky gale
The box also reuses the sprue from the same box as the OG artwork, it's just made out of red plastic now
arctic talon
It’s also insanely good value lol
50$ for what GW normally sells for 125$ give or take
nocturne crest
Hey, so odd question, but would anyone say that daemons need new models?
queen laurel
I mean definitely
arctic talon
All the lesser daemons need a refresh
queen laurel
They are so old and crusty
arctic talon
Badly
late osprey
Since they're the primary reference, too, the longer they go without an update, the more cartoony media interpretations of them will get.
Hell, Nurgle already had an era of absolute cartoon nonsense pre-Darktide
arctic talon
Comparing the new seekers
On the hedonite minis
To the daemon one
It’s fucking rough lol
Daemons also got ass fucked in all 3 systems
They’re just worse then mortals mostly in AoS
They’re not getting a codex this edition in 40k and lost several units
And daemons have always been ass aside from that one codex in whfb
late osprey
This may be a hot take, but I think the idea of daemon-only armies itself is inherently flawed.
arctic talon
Not entirely a hot take but they should exist imo
late osprey
I think a much more elegant integration of them would've been as elite units available to mortal armies.
arctic talon
The fact daemons are blatantly inferior to their mortal options in AoS rn
Is awful
At least in 40k they’re utility picks rn
For the mortal armies they’re integrated into
late osprey
Like, they would ideally be the minority in a given chaos army with a mortal majority
That way they can be hyper-specialized as they're so designed
queen laurel
The fact daemons are blatantly inferior to their mortal options in AoS rn
yeah like why pick skarbrand when you can just run a mortal based army that would probably demolish the enemy better
late osprey
LOL
arctic talon
They don’t even get buffs in path of glory
💀
Like what the fuck man
Daemons have been fated with the Cuck chair in AoS since their armies got integrated together with the mortal ones
is the rough part
Only the greater ones or named ones see any sort of play
queen laurel
Daemons have been fated with the Cuck chair in AoS since their armies got integr...
The bloodthirsters did get this stuff but I don't really think they are viable unfortunately
arctic talon
bloodthristers are fine
they just
don't mesh well with the rest of blades of khorne
because they're this fast missile unit while blades of khorne is this foot army
with some cav
late osprey
Ideally integrating them is the best possible thing because then you can make the daemon units utterly cracked out of their mind at their particular speciality without worrying about turning their faction into a cheesewheel
arctic talon
I agree
late osprey
Since the idea would be that the mortals either enable or compensate for that hyper-speciality
arctic talon
they're integrated into the cult legions in 40k rn
and also into Mortal armies in AoS fully
like man I really wonder which one is better when they cost almost the exact same
alas poor daemons
somehow you've been treated better in the 40k edition where you literally are not getting a codex
ig bloodreavers would be a better comparison
queen laurel
**like man I really wonder which one is better when they cost almost the exact s...
What's like even the point of them being kept in the army
arctic talon
but bloodreavers are 30 points less
arctic talon
What's like even the point of them being kept in the army
fluff
queen laurel
like in aos everyone prefers to run the mortals
arctic talon
the issue is daemons FUCKING SUCK
queen laurel
the issue is daemons FUCKING SUCK
Yeah that's the point why would you keep something if it sucks so bad you just use the other one anyway
like gw please make them viable at least
Or at least usable
arctic talon
like blissbarb archers
hit harder then daemonettes
in melee
on average
like what the fuck lol
truly GW
you cooked
queen laurel
like blissbarb archers
these naked sex offenders you're telling me that prefer to shoot from far away hit better close range than the demons of the God of hedonism
queen laurel
fucking hell
arctic talon
daemonettes have a higher highroll
but also like
you need to actually deliver them
queen laurel
you need to actually deliver them
are they fast enough to get there
arctic talon
anyways GW please for the love of fucking god with the battletome remove this shit from my army
I HATE TREESONG
I HATE NEW TREESONG SO FUCKING MUCH
WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE MY HATRED
FOR THIS GOD AWFUL MECHANIC
I wouldn't even mind playing around Wyldwoods if I didn't have to worry about them fucking dying
queen laurel
WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE MY HATRED
https://youtu.be/EddX9hnhDS4?si=JeHnpDBAejp-YuQ4
Elite wolf when tree song
arctic talon
real
Sylvaneth had a perfectly good way
of setting up wyldwoods
and getting wyldwood bonuses in 3e
and 2e
and then they gave us the jankest fucking mechanic ever
and now wyldwoods can die as well
queen laurel
and now wyldwoods can die as well
That's the GW special
It's working fine throw a wrench at it
queen laurel
nah GW special is completely nerfing something into oblivion for 0 reason
real
arctic talon
Anyways sylvaneth getting several parts of the army nerfed between 3e and 4e despite being one of the worst armies in 3e
is an example of the GW special lol
they nerfed the teleporting stuff hard
I miss my degenerate archer strategy lol
look, they needed to be able to shoot -> charge -> immedietly teleport away
queen laurel
look, they needed to be able to shoot -> charge -> immedietly teleport away
Of course you've devised a strategy like that
arctic talon
smh
queen laurel
you have a natural aptitude of being a scumbag in any game you play
arctic talon
shouldn't have gotten close to my trees
queen laurel
it's actually impressive
arctic talon
I miss dreadwood
I miss being able to teleport twice a turn
and strike and fade twice a turn
sly ivy
these naked sex offenders you're telling me that prefer to shoot from far away h...
O here’s something else way better in AoS: mortal cultists. Slaanesh esp.
So wish for this in 40K. Gimme Blood Pact. Gimme Sons of Sek.
Gimme equivalents to the weird warcry bands (I collected all of em)
sly ivy
Ya they’re good. They’re kinda on the extreme / elite side with their blood tanks and body mods tho
I would love just rank and file like those Slaanesh guys from aos
They’re flashy rank and file but they’re basically humans in weird clothes
arctic talon
Getting a proper mortals army for 40k would be nice
opaque coyote
can you live afterwards?
Nah trust I'll be fi-
10 seconds later
Also as an actual question.
Could a Eldar without like any enhancements via armor or whatever
...turn a human into a donut
Dio Style
Like do they have to be an aspect warrior or can a regular Eldar who hasn't been on the warrior path do that
opaque coyote
100% but like
How strong
Like would a single punch from an Eldar break your neck
Or just your jaw
dapper gyro
Like would a single punch from an Eldar break your neck
Neck
dapper gyro
I think they'd have to use both hands to snap your neck
Snaping and Punching are quite different.
arctic talon
Like would a single punch from an Eldar break your neck
Depends on how physically strong they are but if it’s an aspect warrior or former aspect warrior yes
opaque coyote
Depends on how physically strong they are but if it’s an aspect warrior or forme...
Yeah I am thinking of like
Can a regular Eldar citizen do it
Like if some random hiver
And a random eldar
Got teleported into an arena and had to fight 1v1
How thoroughly would the human be destroyed
plush mason
It's working fine throw a wrench at it
arctic talon
How thoroughly would the human be destroyed
Every eldar receives military training
Regarding craftworlders lol
And they all know how to fight with a melee weapon, bare hands and a shuriken rifle
I’m pretty sure the average human would be fucked
Between malnutrition
Being generally worse biologically
And not having military training
sacred bluff
arctic talon
oh yeah
I heard about this
dudes dice didn't have a 1 on them
also >custodes player
storm jungle
what did custards mean by this?
sly ivy
dudes dice didn't have a 1 on them
Lmao based
opaque coyote
I’m pretty sure the average human would be fucked
I'm now imagining like
A guardsman making fun of an eldar
Only to suddenly get suplexed
sly ivy
Worth it. Common guard W
opaque coyote
Worth it. Common guard W
Also I had a weird idea
In case of a campaign, video game, whatever
Basically some Custodes "retire" and basically travel the Imperium as the Emperor's Eyes
Disguising themselves as a citizen and just observing and doing dirty work
I always thought of basically having an Eye of the Emperor basically become the RE4 salesman
Mainly because it's funny to imagine this behemoth of a man casually selling weapons as a cover job/hobby
Had an idea of a story that basically takes place in a chaotic hellscape planet where every faction is there in some form
And then you just have this ""mutant"" selling the protagonists weapons
I could also imagine it in Necromunda
nocturne crest
I wonder if Custodes are trained to use las weapons.
storm jungle
They are trained to use anything.
remember they are warrior philosophers
bro can probably make a pipebomb from some foodcans
opaque coyote
They are trained to use anything.
This and also because las weapons are made as weapons anybody can use
storm jungle
Yeah and hey if some basic ass militiamen can do it so can you
opaque coyote
Similar to an AK, even a child could use one
Lasguns are essentially the dream of every tactician.
nocturne crest
bro can probably make a pipebomb from some foodcans
Now I'm just picturing them pulling that one Canadian war crime with tins.
Actually, now I'm wondering if Eyes of the emperor can take command of the guard if need be.
winged jacinth
custodian cant use a lasgun he finds until he saws the trigger guard off because his finger doesnt fit
arctic talon
Just break it tbh
outer wave
He should just eat the lasgun and start firing lasers out of his mouth
storm jungle
Actually, now I'm wondering if Eyes of the emperor can take command of the guard...
They are basically not-rogue agents
they can literally do anything that is feasible by plot limits
also like, are essentially homeless/hobo custodians still, they just need to prove they are one of the Emperors guardians then it can just unravel from there, its why they are so fun to write about
nocturne crest
also like, are essentially homeless/hobo custodians still, they just need to pro...
I would read a book about that.
lament shoal
bro can probably make a pipebomb from some foodcans
The anarchist's cookbook (grimdark edition)
storm jungle
I would read a book about that.
Its a concept im legit surprised has almost never been explored atm
they mostly ge ta quick mention in a codex like 2-3 times and thats it
lament shoal
Similar to an AK, even a child could use one
That one cutthroat vet line about how you weren't Cadian if you couldn't field strip a lasgun by memory by the time you were 8
"When shall the three of us meet again?"
nocturne crest
Man, I want an Eyes of the emperor to turn up in Darktide just to heard Grendyl's reaction.
nocturne crest
"When shall the three of us meet again?"
storm jungle
Man, I want an Eyes of the emperor to turn up in Darktide just to heard Grendyl'...
He'd basically be the Swagger type
and probably try hard not to identify himself
which is funny as a giant lol
lament shoal
An eyes of the emperor would've been a dope companion in rogue trader ngl
storm jungle
It would be even funnier if every interaction is just you not knowing who he is lmao
and like his companion quest is just "Rogue Trader, I must reveal to you that im a Eye of the Emperor, an agent of the Adeptus Custodes"
lament shoal
He just gives you "I am who I am" type responses every time you ask him about his past lmfao
storm jungle
while we the players are like: WE KNEW THIS BRO
arctic talon
The anarchist's cookbook (grimdark edition)
That book sucks btw
storm jungle
He just gives you "I am who I am" type responses every time you ask him about hi...
Yeah or just being annoyingly elusive
arctic talon
Use the US army improvised munitions handbook
storm jungle
"Why did you never tell me you were an Adeptus Custodes?"
arctic talon
storm jungle
"You never asked lmao"
arctic talon
Lol
storm jungle
which ironically, great reply lol
im pretty sure they arent even like... a known thing
you'd need to scan some ID shit on them probably, the only art we got of them does show they do keep a medallion on them i guess but its not like they'd flaunt that shit around
lament shoal
Yeah space marines are more recognizable to the average imperial citizen
storm jungle
Yeah and a giant muscular guy or woman in robes/hobo clothes is like really not that out of place
especially in 40k
crystal forum
imagine inquisitors hear rumors about mythical custodes like regular people hear rumors about the inquisition
arctic talon
you'd need to scan some ID shit on them probably, the only art we got of them *d...
The art has the dude with a guardian spear
Which is kind of hilarious
crystal forum
Yeah and a giant muscular guy or woman in robes/hobo clothes is like *really* no...
i feel like the fact that they look like peak human form would give a hint
storm jungle
The art has the dude with a guardian spear
Yeah thats the one I recoverd but its for art purposes, if you put some homeless man with no gear it would look boring, im sure in reality they disguise that stuff
crystal forum
40k people are ugly and frumpy
arctic talon
fair
storm jungle
i feel like the fact that they look like peak human form would give a hint
Well not if they hide themselves
also like
arctic talon
tbh I think rapping it in cloth
storm jungle
custodians are not that pretty either usually
arctic talon
would work
storm jungle
and can be battle-scarred
remember that these are usually ones that request to be off the field
crystal forum
i thinj a custodes could kill somebody using 1 finger
storm jungle
Well yeah but we arent talking about that now are we
they'd literally just do superhero alter-ego shit
crystal forum
just wanted to state something i know is true
lament shoal
I know in one of the books a child asked a custodes if he was the emperor and the custodes was like "are you fuckin serious?"
storm jungle
just wanted to state something i know is true
banned
nocturne crest
Use the US army improvised munitions handbook
My child will read the poor man's rpg.
sly ivy
i encountered a similar finger before
🫡
sly ivy
40k people are ugly and frumpy
u leave my beloved peasant physiognomy potato hivers alone
sly ivy
Peak Diocletian
storm jungle
God I love that fucking addition, no sugarcoating
crystal forum
u leave my beloved peasant physiognomy potato hivers alone
curry
arctic talon
My child will read the poor man's rpg.
The US army improvised munitions handbook is like 10x better then the anarchists cookbook and it’s free lol
It’s 10x better because it’s actually been used 
To pretty good effect
nocturne crest
Yeah.
nocturne crest
It's kind of funny that it's not a crime to own that, but the cookbook is.
storm jungle
I love Diocletian so much
hes forever gonna be a legend in my eyes for shit-talking the primarchs
people got SO MAD at that section i fucking love it
lament shoal
I wonder if the guard has an improvised munitions handbook
lament shoal
I wonder if the guard has an improvised munitions handbook
Amasec molotovs lol
nocturne crest
Is he the custodes who thinks he about get away with killing Gulliman or was that someone else?
storm jungle
Yeah he is
arctic talon
I wonder if the guard has an improvised munitions handbook
Likely not
crystal forum
he weak
crystal forum
got swayed by the elf hole
arctic talon
got swayed by the elf hole
You will be sent to the grinder for this
storm jungle
arctic talon
crystal forum
You will be sent to the grinder for this
i already have grindr
sly ivy
i already have grindr
lmfao
arctic talon
I didn’t need to know that smh
crystal forum
you snickered
lament shoal
I really like this one moment in one of the novels where some custodes are tasked with guarding G-man, and they get attacked, and G-man being G-man is just annihilating the attackers and the custodes watching this are like "why tf are we even here? This dude doesn't need us"
arctic talon
Guarding him is an actual waste of their time tbf
lament shoal
Yeah lol
young pecan
We have a hive city simulator now and it's called Aneurism 4
Just replace Cortex with god emperor or something
nocturne crest
Do you there is a world in the Imperium that has their own version of horse racing on it?
storm jungle
Yes.
The Imperium would have basically any kind of thing like that you can think of in some planet, it just would have a gothic sci-fi flair
nocturne crest
I could see the horses being servitors for the grim-darkness.
storm jungle
yeah basically lol
winged jacinth
Do you there is a world in the Imperium that has their own version of horse raci...
atoma has camelid racing iirc
so you dont have to look far
i recall the two normal-times activities we hear about are camelid racing and a thriving community theater scene
which, honestly, maybe the funniest thing i could come up with for a hive city
arctic talon
Do you there is a world in the Imperium that has their own version of horse raci...
Atoma does lol
Camelid racing
storm jungle
its the same vein as gladitorial stuff
we humans love bloodsports
even now IRL in this age lol
arctic talon
Boxing moment
nocturne crest
Yep, there's even a version of boxing where they fight in Knight armour with weapons.
storm jungle
Yeah pretty much, we love seeing shit like that
nocturne crest
GW should sponsor a combatant in exchange for being a walking advert for Fantasy.
nocturne crest
I could see the horses being servitors for the grim-darkness.
I just realised, maximum grim darkness would be winners getting sent to join the guard and losers turned into starch.
opaque coyote
I just realised, maximum grim darkness would be winners getting sent to join the...
I can imagine a planet where gladiators have a chance to win and join the guard
Lose and their dead corpses get turned into servitors.
Actually did Nuceria already do that
Do servitor gladiators exist
storm jungle
Do servitor gladiators exist
every kind of servitor you can think of can exist
its one of the things you learn reading the books
Crime for example has servitor pitfighting
opaque coyote
Crime for example has servitor pitfighting
Surprised that isn't a tech priest past time
storm jungle
Surprised that isn't a tech priest past time
Too uncouth
opaque coyote
Similar to robot pit fighting now
storm jungle
they prefer to make servitors do industrial tasks instead
storm jungle
...damn the Mechanicus really is no fun
Well yeah do you think your workplace would allow you to play tetris on your PC during work hours?
same rules here lol
nocturne crest
Has there ever been a thing as an servitor uprising before?
opaque coyote
Well yeah do you think your workplace would allow you to play tetris on your PC ...
Officially no.
Unofficially I saw many office workers play Facebook games in the background
opaque coyote
Has there ever been a thing as an servitor uprising before?
Too lobotomized so no.
Unless if somebody controls them
Which sounds interesting
nocturne crest
I could picture the t'au getting a tech-priest and few of those small drones to control the servitors in rebelling.
Would anyone play a 40k version of a police tactical shooter, but it's set in the T'au empire?
arctic talon
Yes
storm jungle
Yes
opaque coyote
Yes
soft thunder
Fire Warrior remake when GW. Fire Warrior 2
sacred ginkgo
any xenos centric game people would play
opaque coyote
Tau: Breacher
"We have confirmed presence of Imperial rebels on the planet."
"Why in all of the sky, earth, seas, and fire would they ever want to go back to there? The planet was awful before we came."
"I don't know... my Gue'la friend tells me it's because of faith."
"More like delusion..."
outer wave
You guys think the Tau have a musical band known as "Earth, Sky, and Fire"?
opaque coyote
100%
outer wave
Fuck yeah
opaque coyote
Although apparently T'au music sounds like complete ass to the human ears
They have different hearing so it sounds like the Resident Evil Basement theme to us
nocturne crest
Although apparently T'au music sounds like complete ass to the human ears
That's why the true reason that the humans want to go back to the imperium. T'au music drives them crazy from having to hear it every day.
opaque coyote
T'au MFS be like "bro this shit is fire":
Do NOT give the Blue Xeno the aux cord
lament shoal
https://youtu.be/iJYvCHm3Ov4?si=cfJrKQm_6WftY-BC
Oh my god I've listened to this one before lmaooo
opaque coyote
also
I was about to make a joke but I legit can't think of anything that could convey how fucking wild this statement is.
winter vessel
https://www.gamereactor.eu/ubisoft-microtransactions-make-games-more-fun-1575363...
sigh they never learn
opaque coyote
I think this beats out "Pride and Accomplishment"
Because you could reason that spending 2 years to get a darth vader skin would net some type of accomplishment
But this is just
winter vessel
just exposing themselves more and more of the disconnect with its community. At this point i'm just calling it indecent exposure, not even disconnect
dapper gyro
It is sad because I know people worked on Ubisoft AAA titles. The studio here is actually a decent place to work.
arctic talon
EA is literally one of the best companies to work for in Triple A lol
despite being uber greedy
languid meadow
https://fxtwitter.com/Ex_Profundis/status/1947047581999042702 does anyone know where this shark model is from
Oh fuck it's deep kin isn't it
lament shoal
https://fxtwitter.com/Ex_Profundis/status/1947047581999042702 does anyone know w...
EVEN FLOWWW! FLOATS AROUND LIKE BUTTERFLIES
languid meadow
winter vessel
https://tenor.com/view/surfs-up-gif-23662948
man this movie was such a vibe
crystal forum
https://www.gamereactor.eu/ubisoft-microtransactions-make-games-more-fun-1575363...
you have a phone, right?
@languid meadow i swear to god i saw that exact pfp as a fursona the other day
you better not be hiding your power levels
crystal forum
https://fxtwitter.com/Heartbreak_Juan/status/1936541831745188164
you're off the hook this time
you wont beat the allegations forever
languid meadow
celest dome
@rose thorn didn't you mention kitbashing the Chaos Dwarfs and the Leagues of Votann?
queen laurel
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeaguesofVotann/s/0AZf3mFpAD
If they were painted to match each other this would work besides the futuristic weapon look
radiant lance
Who's Tara, and why does my vet yell "for Tara?"
Is that my lover in-game?
winged jacinth
Its for tera and its because your vet is really into SI prefixes
Dont get him started on peta
misty vector
Who's Tara, and why does my vet yell "for Tara?"
Is that my lover in-game?
Ahh no, they yell “for Terra” which is earth and the planet of the imperial palace and the emperor
opaque coyote
Here's a random fact
Y'know the infamous CDI cutscenes from Hotel Mario and the two CDI Zelda Games
They were made by
5 people
In like 6 months
Flown from Russia to the USA
Working in a small Boston apartment
Also their budget was
Small
stiff laurel
I'm extremely curious, How does Psyker power in Darktide works? Like can Psyker flash The Emperor pic into someone head and make it explode? Imagine like when you send file bomb or smth
Or you just crush their head like invis hand
sacred ginkgo
Brain burst is actual telekinetic force on the skull
stiff laurel
So like hands 🤔
misty vector
I think its more like energy that builds up in the enemy’s head
stiff laurel
How far can It go tho? Can strong psykers destroy tough armor?
sacred ginkgo
Idk it’s weird it looks like force but it’s under the telepath discipline
sacred ginkgo
How far can It go tho? Can strong psykers destroy tough armor?
Line of sight
And yes
Strong psykers can do whatever the writer wants
misty vector
Its essentially magic you can go wild
stiff laurel
Dang- Psyker sounds op. I wonder if in Books how far they actually gone. Thanks also!
opaque coyote
Dang- Psyker sounds op. I wonder if in Books how far they actually gone. Thanks ...
Tbf it's balanced by two things
misty vector
Dang- Psyker sounds op. I wonder if in Books how far they actually gone. Thanks ...
Ohh someone like ahriman in his books is really strong
opaque coyote
A) Daemons are constantly nibbling at the edges of your mind
Very powerful Psykers can drive them away
But 99.99% of them basically have a bunch of voices telling you that
"Yeah burning down that random guardsman would be funny."
sacred ginkgo
Powerful psykers can do literally whatever they want they have no consistent scale of power whatsoever
opaque coyote
B) If you let your guard down. You get possessed by daemons
And... That usually ends with disaster
opaque coyote
Powerful psykers can do literally whatever they want they have no consistent sca...
Also this
The Psyker spells and such are more about controlling the power
stiff laurel
Is that mean Chaos psyker simply have no limits? Because they're already one of them
misty vector
They have a whole dimension of energy at their disposal
sacred ginkgo
Is that mean Chaos psyker simply have no limits? Because they're already one of ...
No they can still overdraw and explode
queen laurel
How far can It go tho? Can strong psykers destroy tough armor?
if you have ample power psykers can literally do whatever they want
like this is one of the most basic spells in the biomancy discipline
Iron Arm: Turn skin into living steel
opaque coyote
Is that mean Chaos psyker simply have no limits? Because they're already one of ...
Nah they still do.
Think of it like a battery. There is technically unlimited electricity, but overflowing the battery would probably just have it short out
sacred ginkgo
Daemons aren’t the only thing that look at psykers like a free meal
opaque coyote
Powerful Psykers like the Emperor just have a fucking power plant's worth of storage instead
stiff laurel
Okay- So daemons hates each other but they hate humans and other species more that they can ignore each other sometimes-
opaque coyote
Okay- So daemons hates each other but they hate humans and other species more th...
There is a reason why they're generally called Chaos
queen laurel
Okay- So daemons hates each other but they hate humans and other species more th...
That's how chaos works demons will kill each other but they are occupied so they often mostly ignore each other
opaque coyote
That's how chaos works demons will kill each other but they are occupied so they...
Most of the time they are busy fighting each other.
Any incursion outside the warp is generally seen as a nice vacation
A fun joy ride with some random human!
queen laurel
Most of the time they are busy fighting each other.
Any incursion outside the w...
that's why i said mostly ignore each other because they have other agendas to fight
stiff laurel
If Orgyns are so naive and quite dumb how could they get corrupted? 😭 Or it's like you just get corrupted and doesn't even noticed like you drink contaminated water.
opaque coyote
If Orgyns are so naive and quite dumb how could they get corrupted? 😭 Or it's ...
Basically they follow the official looking man
queen laurel
If Orgyns are so naive and quite dumb how could they get corrupted? 😭 Or it's ...
you answered your own question
naive and quite dumb
sacred ginkgo
Being dumb makes corruption easier in a lot of cases
queen laurel
They are easy to convince they are working for the right guys even though they are not
opaque coyote
You can easily manipulate them
sacred ginkgo
Lacking the common sense to consider the promises of infinite power suspicious
opaque coyote
They are easy to convince they are working for the right guys even though they a...
I think a lot of them still believe they are fighting for the Emperor
stiff laurel
Wait... Could there be an intelligent Orgyn? or Psyker Orgyn. that would be hella cool
opaque coyote
As for our Darktide Ogryns.
They're especially smart... for an Ogryn
queen laurel
Wait... Could there be an intelligent Orgyn? or Psyker Orgyn. that would be hell...
yes it's rare but it's becoming more of a thing
opaque coyote
Wait... Could there be an intelligent Orgyn? or Psyker Orgyn. that would be hell...
Cassia is a Psyker Ogryn. There also exists other that became Psykers via drugs in Necromunda
sacred ginkgo
Psyker biomancer ogryn
stiff laurel
Dang! That sounds hella cool and dangerous-
opaque coyote
Psychic ogryns are becoming more and more common
God imagine having to be the teacher for one
queen laurel
Dang! That sounds hella cool and dangerous-
well it is
Because of the imperium's rather one thing of them to just stay brutal big soldiers they forgot to teach them how to be actually smart
opaque coyote
"No, the voices whispering to you are NOT nice. Don't listen to them."
queen laurel
so they like the deeper thinking of an actual trained psyker
cassia had to went through education to make sure that she brutalize anything near her
stiff laurel
What's like Baseline for Ogryn Intelligence. count to 100? Or IOM just don't really cares in generally 😭
queen laurel
What's like Baseline for Ogryn Intelligence. count to 100? Or IOM just don't rea...
cavemen
opaque coyote
What's like Baseline for Ogryn Intelligence. count to 100? Or IOM just don't rea...
Generally if you can count to 10, you're a fucking genius
queen laurel
or the more common one around that of a child
stiff laurel
So basic commands are basic int for ogryns-
opaque coyote
Also this is mostly unrelated but they're also severely claustrophobic.
Apparently this is a genetic fear. So trying to fit some in a transport is generally considered ...
difficult
queen laurel
So basic commands are basic int for ogryns-
yeah mind you they are not that stupid they are just simple
Because of the way they grew up in and evolved
their brains focus more on survival and stuff
Because what's the point of literature when the planet you are in literally kills you
opaque coyote
yeah mind you they are not that stupid they are just simple
I think you probably could have an Ogryn be somewhat intelligent if you start from childhood.
Dim by regular standards but at least enough to do things like 6th grade math.
Most of them never get the chance so they're more like Cavemen.
stiff laurel
So if we like take IOM out how long could Human can still stand? Can space marines and top tier humans still survives?
opaque coyote
I mean humanity has survived before the IoM
Probably a long while. Just wouldn't be as cohesive
Scattered
stiff laurel
like Eldars? or worse-
opaque coyote
Better than Eldar
Primarily because we don't constantly have our souls sucked by a Chaos god
Again, just not a cohesive empire
There were some civilizations that looked promising.
The Interex was a human and Xenos alliance that had knowledge of Chaos and how to combat it.
Of course, they got genocided by the IoM
The IoM kinda massacred any alternatives.
stiff laurel
So rn Emperor still somewhat alive but what if some Chaos just like "Yeah I'll kill him" Could all humans immediately get munching by Chaos? I think some humans must go ally with Eldars or maybe Tau? idk
I heard ppl hate Tau a lot tho-
opaque coyote
If the Emperor dies. The Imperium would probably be split.
A lot of planets probably wouldn't even notice
Chaos would 100% have the advantage. But it isn't the end of humanity
Nor would it be as fucked as the Eldar
stiff laurel
Oh- so you mean like Emperor is like Myth for normal Guardmens?
opaque coyote
Most people never even see the Emperor beyond depictions
And each planet has a different version of the Imperium mythos
For some the Emperor is a sun god
A woman
A god of life (LMAO)
Etc.
stiff laurel
What about Space marines? Do they believe that they're like Myth?
opaque coyote
The only thing that is consistent is that the Emperor is the one true God
opaque coyote
What about Space marines? Do they believe that they're like Myth?
Depends.
But they generally believe that the Emperor is a God
And with them
sacred ginkgo
The mythological status of marines largely depends on where you live
If you live near a chapter homeworld they’re a fact of life
If you live out in some segmentum solar backwater then they might as well be angels
stiff laurel
What if you have to like go into 40k universe what's the safest option? A guy who mop the floor?
sacred ginkgo
Living rich in some deep segmentum solar system with a stable political sphere
opaque coyote
What if you have to like go into 40k universe what's the safest option? A guy wh...
Ironically enough
Craftworld Eldar.
sacred ginkgo
If you’re a human
stiff laurel
Ironically enough
Craftworld Eldar.
Won't you get haunted by chaos?
opaque coyote
Won't you get haunted by chaos?
You got a spirit stone
Just
Don't let it break
Eber
And you'll be good
opaque coyote
Also Eldar life is actually pretty chill