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volkite tech predates marines, votann predate marines
they do but they had no contact with the emperor
I mean weren't gene warriors mentioned during the DAOT?
so why are space marines so similar to steeljacks
that's what im thinking
some sort of "larger" soldier armed with volkites
Volkite is an excellent weapon for biological targets
ultimately
makes it easier to paint
Also yeah the steeljacks are def designed to be an
maybe the emp saw some army of proto space marines in action during the dark age
i like thinking about it 
All my friends are well fed by all the Dwarf releases, but I'm so hungry. Nothing for Drukhari
the design elements root back to a common ancestor from DaoT
i like the idea of the war against the men of iron having similar units on both sides
gene soldiers for humanity and their counterparts made of steel
and the FEC reveal was a meagre offering
emp seeing this and thinking "damn that shit's cool"
soon, multipart archon 
i like to think we are slowly learning more and more about the votaan's past
i had the extreme cope notion that they would be the faction to actually show what the dark age was like
Ya
i mean, the idea of a big bulky warrior has existed since the stone age
and hell some troop roles in history where reserved for the biggest men in the army
a lot of super soldier concepts boil down to "what if we made the exceptionally big dudes mass producible"
It was kind of a thing until some force multipliers and equalizers showed up.
Kinda fuck with the look of the Steeljacks ngl. Looks tall and imposing like without being space marines
The steeljacks look kinda creepy
Like they hacked off the legs of an ironkyn
To connect them to it
Oh, they got the legs from something else?
Ya the head neck is kind seared uncomfortably in the torso
It’s a warform for some more violently minded ironkyn
It’s why the upper body is in normal ironkyn colors
I see I see
normal ironkin
Do you see what I mean with the whole
they literally chopped up an ironkyn and shoved them into it
like i think its a cool design element and it shows what ironkyn like
do in society to an extent
What else uses chopped up Ironkyn?
The new vehicles gunner. And the land fortress
Copilot for the land fortress is an ironkyn hardwired into the thing without their arms
And the new vehicle gunner has one without one arm and no legs
I see I see
Kinda hope we see these kinda Votaan when they make a videogame debut
Whether thats just Mechanicus 2 or elsewhere
Didn’t know where to post this (channel wise) but a friend of mine created a TTRPG generic system. I told him I could play test it with him. So I’ll be running a Warhammer 40K universe one shot. DM me for more info
Which primarch is most likely to return next?
Me
$1 says Russ
yeah my money is on Russ
2 dabloons
Just saying this years tennocon is peak
I love the concert they added
I'll return next
The Ogre Primarch
2nd primarch
John Primarch?
1" vs 1.5", size matter?
I can’t believe I fucking laughed at a meme based off a fucking Reddit theory
Good post +2
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You guys see what I see…?
yeah that killl team has been around for a long time what's the matter
It’s the arbites cosmetics we currently have access to
well yeah even the base look of your first beginner arbites it's based on Exaction squad
The current look of the Arbites is based around that
^
Thats trippy, I never knew about arbites before the update but now it’s probably one of my favorite parts of the imperium
they were always relegated to background lore stuff, just like ogryn was, people know about them that didn't really much a crap about them until now
darktide has made them more popular
Difference is that Ogryns were always semi-liked
Arbites was much more obscure lore for a while
Not by much
They were always treated as oh cool ogres in space
and then they move on to the next cool thing
Rogue trader too. Bullying demons with nothing but a 12 gauge and a pit bull has made me prefer arbites over astartes
I dunno about that; even before Darktide, you had a bunch of those stories of "Big dumb fella doing big dumb stuff" on YouTube, like the one where he has to pray with a commissar in order to enter a transport ship
bruh how long does it take for a perpetual to respawn
yes but by warhammer that's not much
As long or short as the writer wants it to last
I guess idk
Fair fair
oh man that custode tripped over the life support
With how much obscure was warhammer back then they're even less popular even with videos
Oh you're referring pre-COVID? Okay that's very fair
Not even that just in general as warhammer became popular ogryns just naturally came with it
That's what GW marketed them so hard for
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I need more fleshed out corsairs
They're my favorite elves in the setting, because while not being torture-drunk crackheads that live in the galactic equivalent of your attic; they're also not walking nerd emojis like the craftworlders.
Harlequins are nice, but when you dive past stale memes on grimdank, it becomes very clear that your average Harlequin is more detached from what can be considered normal personhood than your average Asuryani.
exodite / corsair update coming in 2 decades
Stupid question but do restaurant chains exist.
They don't need to be Imperium wide
Just like in a system
This goes for Eldar and T'au planets/craftworlde asw
make one up
there's one on Vargaunta for reconstituted starch foodstuffs
with flavor packets
like fish
and grox steak
a character is confused on what a Fish is
oh yeah the imperium is so big that they can go on the entire lifetime not knowing or not seeing what chicken is
Are Kriegsman cloned or do they got a more crude version of the votann vats
so iv seen humans using p much every other xenos weapons when given the opportunity do any xenos use human/astartes when by choice when given the opportunity besides like orks
I thought most if not all earth animals went extinct except for those deemed useful as tools/ weapons
some were brought off world during colonization of the stars before age of strif and theirs a surprising amount of xeno animals that were near peer to what we already had
tau burger home of the blue burger
Most are too arrogant to use human tech but Tau I believe will study and attempt some reverse engineering and as you said orks do take and orkify looted humie gear
two parents drop their genetic material into an artificial womb and diverse sets of krieg comes out of it
It's not pure cloning where you take the DNA of a person and just remake that person into a new guy
Companies do exist but they are treated more like merchant houses and don't really resemble what you would call a franchise.
And for it to multiply planetary it would be only available to mid to high nobility unless it's imperium run like corpse starch is
So a bit like the votann vats
They also use this type of tech but I believe it's more advanced
Cloning has issues, as can be seen with Afriel Strain guardsmen
I do wonder that since cloning have soul issues, would the clone of a Psyker not have that issue, as they have "brighter" souls
I don't think psykers genes are stable enough or the clone would have issues of instant daemon infestation
Or they do exist
I just think unless you can clone them with the ability to control their abilities from the moment they awaken it's a bit too dangerous to be cloning psykers
Wait actually can you clone an in use soul
The Afriel Strain, also known as Homo Sapiens Maledictus, are a strain of Abhuman.[2]
So they are blanks without the special blank powers is what I am getting from the wiki
what is it's name
or does it have none
if it has none, i will now call it "McEmps"

Damn the lucky people get flavoured corpse starch there
Yeah, if I try flavoring mine, I immediately get beaten and fined.
I'm just glad that I don't get my legs cut off.
How am I supposed to work otherwise? I can't afford augments!
If you think really hard you can change the flavour of your spit and eat anything
Yeah one of the origins for our gang is us complaining about the taste of corpse starch and the our superior being petty and falsely charging us
They're not blank as far as we know
Well the reaction to them and the unnatural bad luck is somewhat reminiscent of blanks
But they don't have the anti psyker thing
They might have a warp prensense but they don't seem to have human souls or at least whole souls
I don't subscribe to the Blank=soulless
Blanks are strange in that they are warp black holes where most people hate them because they can't sense their souls but also feel wrong to be around them as they basically absorbed the warp around them and make it disappears
Well maybe not but to the average 40k person what they feel is a soulless void when they are near a blank
It is beyond disturbing for most people to be near them
This just in: Kriegsmen considered so bland and devoid of personality that people openly wonder if they're literally clones.
Honestly I can imagine that being an insult
Like
"Bro are you a fucking Krieger? You're ordering Vanilla Ice Cream?"

Depends on the type of blank
Most of the time it's more like
"This guy's weird."
Jurgen is known to be smelly.
But it's unknown whether it's due to him being a blank or actual smell.
Most blanks, like most psykers, are rather low level
My opinion is that he used to shower and shit. But after everyone else called him stinky despite him cleaning himself.
He just stopped.
Nah Jurgen is a confirmed Pariah
I mean yeah but like
Is the stinkiness just people interpreting his blank Aura as him smelling bad.
Or him actually smelling bad.
Personally I think it's both.
Combination of both
When a blank is benign, he's just annoying to be around. A 'benign' psyker still counts as a fucking psyker and carries all the same risks.
I mean if you were called stinky no matter how much you clean yourself
You'd probably give up at some point
Although according to Sisters of Silence he's actually quite handsome.
I'm thanking dark heresy in advance for letting me play a psyker in yet another game
So he might genuinely be a heartthrob, but the blank Aura just has him be seen as a weird stinky man
They just need a game where i can be an eldar
Yes, cause they're not affected by Blankness
REAL
and I'll give James Workshop literally all of my coins
Imagine how fucking sick playing as an Aspect Warrior would be
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Genuinely the gameplay would probably be similar pace to ultrakill
Or maybe Doom Eternal
Imagine getting eldar personalities that aren't just "smug prick" exposed to the broader audience?
To be fair, smug prick would also still be entertaining if it's the player character
Since well
You're not all talk.

I think eldar have played that trope out
I can imagine a taunt button similar to Boltgun
"Primitive Monkeigh"

But yeah a different personality would be nice
farseers are smug, because they can see the future, and its still annoying
Still it would also show how Eldar become smug as fuck
Especially if you play good
Like if you're an aspect warrior mowing down a fuck ton of SMs, Imperial guards, etc. because video game
Fair
Although maybe Dark Eldar would also be interesting.
You gain health the more pain you cause.
Its just like the Imperial equivalent of making another Malum Caedo, like its lore accurate, but is also expected
Like you're constantly losing health, so you have to kill and torture.
If an Eldar led tide game was to happen, the best pick would be the Ynnari
2 Eldar
2 Dark Eldar
1 Harlequin
Glory kills basically causing the enemy an ungodly amount of suffering
What I wouldn't give to have loyalist space marines as antagonists in a video game...
I'm honestly disappointed that Boltgun didn't try a Chaos SM dlc
I'm not even strictly talking tide game anymore ill take anything
The Imperium are the good guys
Daemon Weapons
Closest to a Chaos Doom game is "Forgive me Father 1/2"
Honestly though, being able to play chaos would be cool as shit.
Tzeentchian would be fun
Forgive Me Father - All Weapons Showcase
00:00 REVOLVER
00:11 TWO REVOLVERS
00:22 NOLLER G40
00:36 SHOTGUN
00:47 POWER SHOTGUN
00:58 SPITTER
01:09 ABYSSAL SHOTGUN
01:20 TROCKENTOD MP18
01:34 TROCKENTOD MP28
01:50 NASSTOD LD32
02:07 NASSTOD LD62
02:21 RUSTY VITO
02:39 RUSTIER VITO
02:57 DES GOULES
03:16 DES GOULES MKII
03:36 ENERGY BOOSTER
03:53...
Spells would be fucking awesome
Luger?
You mean the Noller

Jokes aside some of these weapons are sick
This is exactly the shit I am talking about
Do you know how cool Daemon weapons and spells would be?
Hell how about summoning some to help
The protag would be undivided
Because A) Generic
B) Allows protag to use all types of spells and shit
In general I want a Chaos Protag game
Throwing away any marketing pretense of the Imperium being the ""lesser evil""
Just embrace the fact that you literally worship four mega satans
Have a skill tree that let you pledge yourself to the gods
In general, my ideal 40k game is a Chaos Rogue-like
Rogue-like fits Chaos for
Obvious reasons
I also imagine different starting points.
Like SM have the best floor but the mutation threshold is lower because you're already kinda gene edited
So your DNA has less space to be fucked with
Before turning into a Chaos Spawn
While I'm not a SM fan, I could like a narrative game where you follow a squad of SM that have to join Chaos cause they've been accused of being Chaos servants.
Working à la Wasteland 3
While a regular human has a much lower floor but a higher ceiling
You can take much more potential mutations/blessings
But your start is much more harsh as a result
Examples like that
What wrong with SM story as it's the one thing I think they did really well
Generic
Like the space marine games aren't uh
Well
Let's just say we definitely don't play them for the story
It's pretty typical honestly
Repeat of SM1
And just plot armour PoV 💀
"We have to stop a Xenos threat"
"Now we have to stop big evil chaos man"

Also: "Use Chaos stuff"
Honestly the only wild twist is Leandros still being alive
To be honest, an idea that I had is that if SM3 gets made or dlc or whatever
Leandros should be the protagonist
No? What you mean SM 1 was about Titus being forced to take everything on his own as people around him begin to distrust him more and more as they don't recognise that his gift is actually a gift and not chaos corruption while SM 2 is him learning he isn't along and he has brothers in arms and himself and others learning that his gift is a gift and not chaos corruption.
the GYAT on that navigator!!... 😭 🔥 😍
GW is not the only one asserting brand image control through copyright…
Anatolia yes
Holy shit
In the internet people say he was born at like 8-10 k BC. Which source says that?
Yeah hes a Hittite iirc
born on the banks of the Sakarya river
he also masascres the Thudner Warriors on the base of Ağrı Dağı which is funny lol
Isn't the knife on the back from one of the rumour engine ?
what knife on what back
WRONG
Nah the only good Slayer kit atm is from the Kharadron
they look like from some kind of old anime
even the symbols look like asian ones
This one? It's on the White Scar bike
Ye, I was thinking of that one, good to know that quite a lot of Rumour engine were resolved this time
I mean that's not their Slayer though that's literally an artillery crew
this the slayers
Are votann a proper fun to play army now or are they still need more cooking
2 miniatures had 3 rumour engine about them.
The Ghost from AoS
And the Iron Hand
Pretty packed with old rumour engines
ye
And they too suck
But Chtonian are the Slayer proxy for the Votaan.
Like are the Goblin Hewer not Slayer ?
Yes, and the Maul as well as backpack radio
How old were they
that is a slayer but the thing is these guys are literally kin not berserks
They suck though they don't make much sense
The Vorgrim Kharadron would make better Slayer cult than them
Why did one of my comment disappear then reapper in a different order
So are the GK the only SM faction that need an update now?
So it will probably come next edition.
Yeah people assumed this edition but all they got was the piece of shit dreadknight lol
They still could get something if there any more previews nearer to the end of the year, like a kill-team.
Interesting question
I understand that the Custodian spear basically have the gun built into them. But is there anything similar to them but more along the lines of a sword, is there more examples of “gun-sword” type weapons
The custodes have some
Then there are some Duelling Swords from Dark Heresy that are Swords + Lasgun on the hilt
The custodes just prefer the spears I guess?
I feel like that’s what I usually see at least
It looks cool.
This is what I was looking for 
dlc for zealot when
if they make a version that's really a miniaturized weaker version then sure
Would they be allowed it though
The emperor told her
my mind went in two directions. the Iron Hand's weapon either reminds me of a Japanese kanabō or it looks like he combined a bunch of 1x2 and 1x3 LEGO plates into a weapon
Drukhari Brain has progressed to end stage, I look at this and all I can think is the helmet would be great for a Custom Archon.

I LOVEEEE ITTTTT
AAAAAA
I love them
I’m so excited
I am deeply ashamed that province is now not a good place
I loveee kurnothi
See I like the stupid centaur just fine. The chorfs are uniquely crap.
like there are previous versions of chorfs and chorf adjacent things that would be good guides, less overblown on the angular shit and the low poly / cartoon look
Vs
Tell me this isn’t some WoW ass
Idk I think the Chuardin are great, yeah a tad wowwy but they feel like a significant improvement on the old forgeworld shit
I just hate the wowwy look. And they had been moving away w the new stormcast and ghouls and vamps and even the fish elves
I imagine if you don’t paint the edges so harshly it will look a lot less wow
They went HARD on the edges
Also don’t paint the skin grey lol
They non metallic metals the entire fucking army
Gw painters paint weird
Uhg I love this
The giant jade bull robot monster
Also I disagree with the demon gasoline being green, it should have been a different color
Making it normal fire wouldn’t have felt aos but green is too uh
Idk the word
Apparently these guys having been more exposed to magic has caused the rock skin syndrome to show up more
Even the most basic of guys have it
And yeah that's one thing i wish is they chose the default colors to be something else for the fire
Because green fire is straight up warp stone to me
Like every time i see green fire i assume aoh
A warp fire thrower is nearby
My vote would ahve been magenta
Yeah I know chaos being magenta is a 40K thing
But the message would have gotten across here
Wouldn't that just cross with tzeencht
I suggest giving their fire the good old classic red orange color
Tzeentch uses regular fire
But that's just going to interact with the fire slayers
A lil meme for ya
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They do use orange fire but most of the time people associate tzeencht warp fire with blue or pink
Homy shut bone splittaz should never come to aos
Where’s pink fire?
Here's a little bit
I might be blind
Also one of their spells
Pink Fire of Tzeentch
Summons a tide of writhing warpflame that engulfs their foe.
So yeah their warp fire can be either blue or pink
It's just like how it appears in total war
Where they shoot blue fire and pink fire all over the f****** place
But as you said they do use orange
But most of the time their fire is again blue or pink
Why though? Where green and red for example?
Green fire belongs to the skaven
That's their interpretation of warp fire because of their use of warp stone
But honestly the reason i think they didn't go for good old fashioned orange fire
Is because well fire slayers are a thing
Yeah
I think they didn't want them to visually blend together
I saw orange fire people photoshopped and I didn’t like it
The models were 100% made for a not normal fire color
Yeah but blue pink and green are taken colors for chaos fire
yeah I think it's just the green that makes them look really "wowwy"
So you have to curve ball yourself and think of colors outside of that
I can only think of the WoW movie everytime I see it
I don’t think pink really is
Huh thought it would be black and dark red. Especially fire
I can see pink working if the dwarves are working with tzeencht a lot
But the greedy bastard again uses two fire colors
I'd say red with dark undertone to emulate oil fire
Maybe for an Ulgu themed one
This is what i agree with the most
Make the fire redish
monochrome fire would be worth a try
Ye Hashut gives that expression
“Yeah we like to chuck realmstone into the fire to hide us”
Lil more dark red mb
black base with white highlights but that would be a pain in the ass to do ime
100%
It would be hell
Yes, darker still but can't really find any picture like that
Like fire form dark souls/elden ring
That's also how their fire look like in total war
yeah black flame
Yeah so far my go to would be red fire
but trying to do this on a model would fucking suckkkkk
Red fire dark undertones like cacti said
at least you can change the fire colour without much effort, to change the blunderbuss would be mega ass to do
I wouldn't mind it becoming like reddish fire with dark undertones like cacti said
yeah I can see it working on them
Something like that?
I'd probably go with either red plasma or molten metal yellow
Looks like someone messed up and gave them skaven colour palette
The flamerhurlers look decent
Yeah something like that
like these look nice
It's a good thing people can paint this how they want but the official painting
however the blunderbuss just doesn't do it for me
The machines look like it runs and warp stone
That's my big problem
Green fire really looks like they use warp stone
Which isn't the case because their main source of power is grounding down demons into fine energy
Feel like GW really tried to not have it too close to the BF Chaos Dwarf and fell into another corner
I also think they are avoiding the fire slayers
Those guys literally have fire on their name
True
Having their color match those would have some visual blending
Rework the Fyreslayer from the ground up 
Instead of naked Slayer with magma, they're more in line with this miniature
Turn them into Hunters that exit their Holds without much and kill beasts to wear them as armour
So the basic ones would still be relatively naked (but pls, put on some pants)
But the more experienced would have carapaces dripping with blood or molten magma
This is the reveal of the dwarf because
That guy and the main guy of the Helsmiths of hashut Urak Tarr are aura farming
Not really similar though
That would be the dominator engine
Doesn't evoke the same thing
The Destroyer look similarish
But K'daai look more ethereal
Dwemer centurion ahh design
It's literally their interpretation of k'daai though
Within these ironclad daemon engines burns an inferno of tormented daemon-matter, and the malice of those entities leaks from their eyes in hateful waves.
Take demon torment it and turn it into demonic soup and then put it inside a giant metal monster
And watch it come to life
Thinking back on this, it's the st time I've looked at a 40k model (maybe baring Munda) and though that would be a good basis conceptually for something in AoS 
In exchange the Leagues could gain the new Null Kharadron as concept as an Anti Warp option
The leagues do have psykers funnily enough
They’re an inversion on a few warhammer dwarf tropes
I felt like that Psyker miniature was meant to remiss to Runepriest/Masters tbh
Def meant to give those vibes
But the LoV do invert the whole no magic thing
On its head where they commonly use it in battle
Oh that’s a good photo bash
I think the scheme they chose should have been a more vibrant red
Old Battle Fantasy colours
Tbh
Dwarfs putting everyone else to shame with their sick ass minis in both AOS and 40k is good to see
I think the battle fantasy scheme is a bit too bright
But the GW one is too
Dull?
I think having the red and brass switched would be better
This this is what i'm talking about
Make the fire more orange or red
It genuinely sells the fact that hashut is the lord of fire and tyranny
@rose thorn i looked at the tome art and color looks a lot different than what they painted on the minis
It’s so good I’m screaming
This is like more ethereal blueish night haunt fire
It's more teal with purplish highlights
Looks way better then the green
instead of green
Oh making a Shyish themed Chaos Dwarf host that instead of using Deamons grind up any type of Undead to power their stuff
And teal i would say is at least different enough to look at than blue so it doesn't even contend with tzeencht
I could imagine the mixing up un dead related things with the demons
To make some souped up power source
Look at the images I posted. It’s the chunkiness and the proportions and the extreme hard angles even on cloth.
Here’s mono. still WoW
Tbf, the old CDwarf did also somewhat look like they could belong in Warcraft
It's the big hats
I really don't like their hats in fantasy
they look like gourds lmao
Next prime
respect the bong hat
That art is so goated
I wonder if that's due to the exaggerated horns
I don’t see it 
Upcoming warframe "not the next one but it's coming"
Cute
It’s everything. Yes the weird horns that don’t taper and are low poly, but also like… look at even the cloth. Vertices everywhere. Wow-brained slop.
Ur only ally is a ork
Wake up sheeple
Don’t eat the WoWslop
Why are you such an aos grognard
Everytime someone like something about it you go ahead and just try to turn them away gatekeeping it even though you don't even like it
I like aos fine!!
Give me receipts.
I don’t do that.
I think it has worldbuilding issues sure but I’m rooting for it.
You literally pinged elite wolf saying that chaos dwarves are just bad crud garbage
This was about aos generally. Stay focused
if u want 2 debate
I said something about it aos new dwarfs are a thing in it
It's still within my argument
Your claim was that every time aos is mentioned I come in and try to turn people away from it.
That is the thing to which I was responding.
Try to keep the threads straight.
I don’t like the new dwarf aesthetics. I do for instance like the new orruk aesthetics
And the new aelf aesthetics
Also the time you said only read one book in it because it's the only thing worth it in the entire setting how is that not turning away someone
And the new CoS aesthetics
The books are in general anemic. The setting has promise and I like the game. I never claimed otherwise. And it was more than one book.
The tomes are nice.
the rpg is promising.
But I never said anything to contradict this nor did I say the setting is not worthwhile
And you can search that.
Smdh
You’re not good at this.
what is goign on????????
I mean you aos is bad jokes every time like genuinely even when the conversation isn't even about it

But anyway
No examples
Sad
Also I make bad jokes about everything
I accept your capitulation.
AoS genuinely pains me. I like a great deal about it.
Including as I said much of the Destruction take esp vs WHFB which had really derivative ass lore but some good books despite that.
you dont have to liek all of aos, it deonst want you to like veyrthing in it
you have liek 1-3 factions you adore and play those and ignroe everythign else
Even if it's anemic like don't say something like this
Like you don't like the writing sure but don't just say just read only those
you didnt even recommend son of the god eater?!?!?
Guy was a beginner so i was giving books to a new guy to read
oh lmao
books in aos are very faction orintated, you really just read waht your interested in
theres only liek 3 bad books
serphon and fyreslayer rip on that
I’ll read that. Idk.
I was being a little hyperbolic there but that doesn’t address your claim about the setting at all. The books aren’t the setting.
hte
Books are the setting??!?!?
(That was to bulgur or whatever his name is)
its how lore is convayed
Not the BL books. The tomes and rulebooks are
I said nothing about those.
AoS has way fewer bad miniatures than 40k has
eye pan to ogors
i am very excited for the refresh this edition
fyreslayers are my preference for nude buff chubby middle aged men
are their any books that feature heavy on iron hands and nightlords
What are they seeing
I don’t see it
Obv joking.
outside fo HH? i knwo tehres the nightlords trilogy and i think an ironwarriors book
Yeah but i'm bored right now and i have nothing better to do 
ill have to check
Night lords trilogy
my bad im trying to decide on a colorscheme
i decided im just gonna steal form minecraft
I'm going to be honest i don't really see a sniffer colored deer elf working out
red bodies, green hair
Fyreslayer is the only faction I really would prefer to see be Remade from scratch
Isn't it just called, well, Iron Hands?
Jokes aside they don’t
But
I think they’re the most boring ass thing ever visually
also is gorgon pattern armor still made or did that schematic die w ferrus
What would you even remake it from it has the same problem from bonesplitterz
The fundamental idea of the faction is genuinely in grand into their character that you have to do some serious remaking
I think so
70% of the fandom hate them but 30% fucking adore them
They are berserker dwarves the pride themselves to be the strongest and like fire
It’s a modification of indomitus, the stuff learned from it is used but not the pattern itself
Stuff like the blinding refractor fields
Give them back pants, and have some elite Slayers that are wearing looted/hunted stuff to appear less naked
Yeah that is true more clothes will work on them
Honestly the same can be said for bone splitters
Give the more clothes like bones and stuff
No joke that's what I was saying a couple of hours ago
#40k-lore-chat message
Bone spliiterz using a fatalis great sword would go crazy
Given more substantive comments you’ve excluded.
WHFB is a way worse setting than AoS. For the record.
Incorrect 

40k has munda
Yeah i'm going to be honest i'm sorry cactus but fantasy is the weakest
Ok but take Munda on its own separately
Munda is 40k
No
Fantasy also had the nippon incident
I think whfb is the weakest of the 3
It’s also the most racist of the 3
but whatever
That doesn’t matter
My actual opinions is that they’re all about equal
They’re all pretty close together for me lol
Tbf yes
My enjoyment of them each fluctuates
They each have strength and weaknesses
I like fantasy but it's more generic aspects are why it's less appealing to me
Well every setting has some positive aspects
it’s so derivative
its power is directly tied to its racism
I mean like
WHF was incredibly racist with some of its stuff
this is just being very centrist lol
v true
also its made by british people
The dreaded p word
Real.
THE LEGENDARY SWORD TOYOTA
FROM CLAN HONDA
RATS GOING TO JAPAN AND LEARNING HOW TO BE NINJAS
WIELDED BY SANYO KAWASAKI
Teenage Mutant Ninja Rats ahh lore
nina
The Kawasaki part is fine actually
It was Cathay
Actually
Not sure if it makes it better or worse
I was talking about like very old lore
I don't know man i guess like slightly worse because like
Why does china have ninjas which is like a japanese thing
It's still miles better than the old days though
Those are some crazy stuff
Well they never retcon’d the Nippon lore

the greatest rice bowl bearer of our time
Hey at least when they bring back fantasy to the they are gratefully toning down those uh
Aspects
Anyway i'm planning to grab the cathay rule book and read the stuff there
Based based based
Hopefully they expand more than what they already have in freaking total war
think i finally settled on my sylvaneth colorsceheme
bug
lol
Oh also I think aos orruk lore / feel > 40K ork
I painted my sylvaneth in the default scheme/ stuff
holy shit lol
thats a hot take
Yep
agreed
Alien flower from plants vs zombies?
yes
You know what it looks good
should the soulstuff be grenish teel or pink
Orruks fit more into AOS because they are like ridiculously OP'er than 40k orks i think
my Goat
💀 💀 💀
Genuinely not kidding
Prob best ork lore. LOTR orks are just sad and broken
Orks to shame
they just suck aside from their named characters
They are the weakest
They like the most army character because they rely on actual characters
yes lmao
AoS orruks are less goofy and are genuinely threatening
Kruleboyz are chilling as bandits that old orcs use to fill
And the gloomspite lore is good too
and ironjawz are commting SETTING WIDE CLEANSINGS
i mean not really because like
Their black orc which are the bigger guys than average are not actual killjoys
Iron jawz can laugh and have fun just like any other orc
Blacks orcs on the other hand while cool giant warriors are so god damn bland in personality you would think they are an actual rock
Kruleboyz ruin MY FORESTS WITH THEIR STUPID SWAMPS
I meant than 40K, kinda.
THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO KILL THEM ALL
This post was fact checked by real Sylvaneth patriots
40k still has more character than the ones in fantasy to
They don't rely on the characters much because your armies can have their own themes and stuff
Stealth orks
Kleptomaniacs
Speed freaks
Monster hunters
That's good
Fantasy is just, ugh
Yeah
they're assholes
The kruleboyz give a whole other side tho too in aos
Kruleboyz are cool
Realms of Ruin cutscenes are so good
I love their more Tolkien like look of be more stringy and lean
Yeah they look great
I considered collecting them
Esp after big vulture guy
the mouth o mork
Gobsprakk yeah
Kruleboyz my main issue is like
they need more ig? lol
Cavalry
They need cavalry
Like they need those giant cats killabosses ride as cavalry units
but but they have ork riding annihilation bear dog cat
I mean depending on each definition of each of the words
I also think aos has set up a nice push pull / tense series of relations among the gorkamorka species.
Am I the only person here who actually likes 40k 
yes
This is the Fortnite lore channel right
Here but i prefer aos
Get me out of this shit lol
I cannot take this index anymore for sylvaneth
FREE ME
YOU WILL BUY MORE TREEESS
I do
u want my soul drain forest set lol
but I prefer fantasy
How dare they
YOUR +1 TO SAVES WILL BE WITHIN 8 INCHES OF A 60 DOLLAR TERRAIN FEATURE
not allow me to instantly destroy
faction terrain
smh
I loved watching the hope drain from peoples eyes
whenever I overgrow faction terrain
LMAO I TWAS SO GOOD
If my theory is correct and were getting kurnothi aelves this edition
nothing better then making a Beastman player cry
that will basically force them to ahve to rework the amry
/j
go
god
I don't want another rework if it resembles the index
LOL
please just make it look like the 2e or 3e one
but with Kuronathi
lmao
I don't care if its actually good its not fun
have you tried teh wild hunt aor?
I have
I still dislike the current Sylvaneth playstyle
overemphasis on Forests bad
overemphasis on a single fucking spell
I need to cast everyturn worse
God damn you GW
I do not want to cast the same spell every turn
lmao
I HAVE OTHER SPELLS I WANT TO CAST
Sorry
thats 2 armies I play this year
who've had core gimmicks completely redone
in the most unfun way
Well besides grow a garden what faction do you play besides them
whats the other one??
Rip in fucking peace lmfao
If i had a nickel every time i picked an army and it got railroaded by the rules i would have two nickels it's not a lot but it's weird it happened to me twice
I got to sit in the cuck chair twice watching 2 armies get revealed alongside them with rules that were 10x better

Necrons for admech
and nighthaunt in AoS
Goddamit lol
lmao
GW HATES MY ASS/j
Bro got cooked two times
U had 2 stick w the twiggy guys when god was tellin u 2 play the (un)dead
When this figure came out there was nothing like it in 40K.
I'm shoving the first chorf player I play into into the fertilizer maker
It was amazing
tbh the original 2 c'tan are insane
I have a mild complaint the VOid Dragon is too necrony
lol
And what would you do if they win in shove your wooden built ass into the furnace?
I'm going to be honest i can genuinely imagine Helsmiths just using live sylvaneth as fuel
you will regret it
it'll go boom
not a great fuel source
their souls are
but not the wood lol
so like could the ctan still have been nearly as deadly as they were if the necrons hadnt give them physical bodies
No
No
No
The Void Dragon not looking like an European Dragon was a darn shame
Honestly
I didn't want it to look like that either
I wanted it to look like some horrific abomination lol
thats like melted necrodermis reforming
were their any ctan that the necrons were like fuck you buddy you dont get to have a body
The Flayer one is the closest
Like the nightbringer
But they didn't really know if they had personalities before being put in the body
Nightbringer is too human
ish
its too humanoid rather
I wanted a really fucked up looking cron
No you’re right
I would have wanted it somewhat like that cause it would be what have inspired Dragons on Terra
just different from my mental interpretation
whats the probability that the outsider becomes relevant in any capacity
VD should have been some weird Ezekiel shit
Unsharded C’tan is huge for setting
So Erebus will randomly show up & shank him
Could we not see the Outsider come back à la Be'lakor
abaddon solos the outsider for the 69th black crusade live
his sword drakenfelsensteinyenin will eat it
yeah back when we first heard her voice as Eleanor I was flashbanged
thats why swat flashbang babies
Mags are you high of sugar again
no just quoting someone
So all the Chaos Dwarf models have cuneiform, do you think they have meaning ?
What
thus us why i named my arbites baby-manglr
they are boomer duardin, so htey use alot of stuff and have alot of traditions of the old duardin
That's just runes innit?
waiter waiter more Sumerian influence in my fictional faction design
no thats cuneiform
they use the old writing style, they believe hashut is a normal god
But they work with skull reaper the lord decapitator and, brainik the mad rat brain gouger,and gornar, the fist of apocalypse?
Yeah all right
I can't zoom in enough but it's like insanely close, not exactly 1-1 but def inspired.
So hashut is taking the place of the great horned rat as the underdog god
It doesn't look like Khazalid or Black Tongue
I think this is zharralid
or the fire tongue
fire tongue is Zharralid
It’s the full text of The End and the Death
Yeah i'm stating the other name
I think it's zharralid though genuinely
from the very view pictures we have of Zharralid it doesn't look like it but of course it could've changed
but the new writing is 100% inspired by Cuneiform
Definitely
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I love these editorial videos since it just injects random people with the knowledge of these storylines existing
Oh solid jj
Guy is pretty funny
Idk what it's gonna be but I'm more excited for the new frame
also that demon frame that's coming in the future looks so good
It’s cool
His big mace broke, so now he's a boxer
damn
He's done playing nice now
its time to throw hands
Now I wish we had more minis that had Baki the Grappler kind of proportions
The devil in disguise
his forehead seems smaller in that image
Starfinder 2e stuff
HOLY FUCKING PEAK
I have no idea y u ppl r freakin out
Tennocon stuff
Wat is happening wat is that is warframe another one of those waifu games
Two new protoframes and warframe
Truth nuke


