40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

and also like I said, due to being complementary with red

aka opposite on the color wheel

it fits very well with blood splatters

or just red in general

[late osprey]

the idea of a green orc originates with GW, that much i believe is completely true, but the story about it being accidental/from a non-nerd may be just embellishment

i choose to believe it because its fun

[opaque coyote]

i think it's probably just somebody shrugging and painting them green

cause it looks cool

that's how many artists choose color schemes

"eh fuck it this looks good"

[arctic talon]

GW Orcs being green is iconic tbh

[late osprey]

well orcs before GW were of the LoTR coloration

[arctic talon]

yeah

grey

[late osprey]

so coloring green was a very different choice

[opaque coyote]

imagine an alt. universe

[late osprey]

one that obviously paid off very well

[opaque coyote]

where it was grey

depressing ain't it?

"THIS WORLD IS GRAY!"

[arctic talon]

even DND stole green Orcoids

[opaque coyote]

just doesn't hit the same

[arctic talon]

though they went back to grey orcs in 4e and 5e

[opaque coyote]

I think my favorite orcs, aside from 40k, is Elder Scroll's Orcs.

[late osprey]

tbf i think dnd has like

the entire palette of orcs

[arctic talon]

yeah

[late osprey]

green orcs, grey orcs, brown orcs, black orcs

rainbow orcs

[arctic talon]

Though the stereotypical common skin color

was Grey for 1e 2e

then 3e was green

and then 4e 5e were grey again

[late osprey]

they were scared of the GW legal armada

:v

[queen laurel]

I mean my point is the reason i like green in fiction it's because people's reason of choosing green if they want a character to somehow be really strong and seem like the type of guy to slam a car straight through your skull

Though thanks for the explanation it's still has become synonymous with them even if that's not the intended intent

[opaque coyote]

Like the first thing I remember of the Elder Scrolls Orcs is walking on the road to Riften I believe

And then having an Orc be like "Please FUCKING KILL ME."

You have to admit it's memorable.

[late osprey]

Alternative reason: Orks are green because green iz best. Simple as.

[arctic talon]

Also Hulk being green

is beacuse like

They did not want to keep on printing him in grey

he was grey originally lol

[opaque coyote]

I think in general they just have multiple colors for each races.

Your Tiefling can be red, purple, or grey.

[late osprey]

Tieflings are uniquely some Rainbow Power Rangers situation

[opaque coyote]

But let's be fair here

When you hear Orc, you imagine green.

[late osprey]

It really isn't usual in DND

GW absolutely pioneered green orcs

[opaque coyote]

that's probably because demons are surprisingly varied in skin color

[arctic talon]

devils

[opaque coyote]

apparently there's a lot of variation in evil entities that send you to hell

[arctic talon]

Hell is Devils

and yes

there's a lot of them

[late osprey]

https://tenor.com/8GpL.gif

[arctic talon]

Yes

[late osprey]

It's Infernals to refer to the whole lot

[arctic talon]

yeah

[late osprey]

So I have to 🤓 back at you

[arctic talon]

smh

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/mkultra-mind-control-cat-face-gif-2481894448833856970

[arctic talon]

We're going to the abyss with this one

[late osprey]

Actually I had a whole bit where my paladin would call them all devils, demons, etc interchangeably and lambast someone who tried to 🤓 him in RP

[arctic talon]

do Yugoloth/daemons even exist in DnD still or are they in the 4e retconian of hell

oh hey they're in 5e nvm

[late osprey]

They still exist, I think they're 'Goloths though

[arctic talon]

yeah

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I am planning on creating a backup character that's a paladin.

Their special quirk is that they're homophobic but also gay.

[late osprey]

After the Great Evangelical Appeasement of 1985

[opaque coyote]

Mainly because it's funny

...and realistic-

[arctic talon]

Thats a hilarious bit

[late osprey]

"They're not devils, they're baatezu! They're not daemons, they're yugoloths! They're not demons, they're tanar'ri!"

Great stuff, 1980s DND

Really making the pinnacle of lore here.

[opaque coyote]

They're basically lawful good for most things except gay people.

Like they act like the stereotypical FANTASY paladin.

Until they see two men kissing

[arctic talon]

Demons are a lot weirder then Devils lol

in terms of apperances imo

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

I love how funky demons get

[late osprey]

I'm of the small minority that actually likes the 4E demon lore a lot, especially the whole obyrith hyper-demon lore

Not the renames of course, but the idea of the primordial hyper-demons is really cool to me

[opaque coyote]

literally lasering an entire city

[late osprey]

And the origin of them how they spawn from the machinations of a single maddened god Tharizdun

Which is just chaos as fuck if you ever wanted to play a chaos warrior in DND

[arctic talon]

tbh a lot of the 4e lore is really fucking cool

devils compared to demons are more like "normal"

demons get weird

[late osprey]

4E establishes that the origins of demons are extra-universal, they're supposed to be almost lovecraftian in that they fundamentally shouldn't exist in the cosmology, but they do regardless

Which I think is just the coolest shit.

The first demons, the Obyriths, transfer themselves into a crystal after annihilating their original universe to send the crystal to DND's cosmos and begin the taint anew

That is before their Tanar'ri servants rise up against them and kill almost all the Obyriths

which is probably what the Obyriths did to their original creators

[arctic talon]

neat

[covert kiln]

I loved 4th ed.

[sour hornet]

The beaks are so sexy bro

I might just make them standard for my homebrew

Bruh the 30k marines get all the drip and the wit

the average group of 40k marines are all like crack-addled murder hobos in comparison

[raven stone]

And GW just had to make the 30k bits mostly incompatible with 40k bits no less

Apparently because the 2 marine studio teams hated each other lol

I still remember the old, glorious times when 30k Marines can stand in and be used as 40k Marines, miniatures wise…

[celest dome]

Or that corporate want design sales to reflect what setting they're selling from (for ease of evaluation)

[raven stone]

Corporate centric thinking…though at least an understandable one

Since working in a non-TT Miniature corporate job, I kind of see where that is coming from

[celest dome]

Corporate run the world, most of the time it's the only logic that matter.

[raven stone]

Somewhat sadly so

[rocky gale]

Inside rumours suggest its inter department rivalry, that the 40k and HH teams don’t want to collaborate on the design phase and don’t want to write rules for models they didn’t design.

[storm jungle]

Yeah that is an actual thing

the studio is like, really not as cooperative/intertwined as people think too lmao

[raven stone]

What an utter shame

Imagine what could have been without such…provincialism

[shadow plover]

There's also no reliable source on the fact that here is any rivalry, more so against it from former GW employees. Most of it is just rumours and weird conspiracy theories from fans

[celest dome]

Only echoes I heard was hard frontiers that ended up due to how the commercial sides have to report their stuff

[storm jungle]

Dont listen to Jerk and his fake news

🫡

[dapper gyro]

Who could have thought that GW is rant like the Imperium...

[winged jacinth]

There is no war in ba sing se...

[sly ivy]

This is like 99% likely to be the case. Obviously talented people will naturally have some tension and competition. Always always. But it gets blown up. You only have to have had one experience being part of an organization and then listening to rumors about it to understand that.

Even the most functional groups will have rumors circulating about them, blowing up some offhand comment or minor disagreement.

The only way to avoid being a subject of those is to be an incompetent, ambitionless vegetable

[storm jungle]

Its even funnier because theres about as many ex-GW employees who also talk about how bad some of the stuff in the studio is lmao

[raven stone]

GW will live

Just because they figured out all they need to do, is sell the copyright to the setting

[storm jungle]

Nah that would never happen.

unless like some economical thing happens and the studio is basically near-dead

which itself would take a lot

[raven stone]

Ok, yea, I more meant the right to make Vidya games in the setting

[storm jungle]

Oh that lol

yeah they still give the IP out like hotcakes hence all the mobile slop games

[raven stone]

I think that is probably the biggest earnings, followed in 2nd place by all Marine things

And everything else in a distant third lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah as much as people dont wanna accept it the slop shit like mobile games make them a lot of money lol

they also basically lose nothing

Minis are still the biggest income though obviously

[raven stone]

Like the game itself doesn’t even need to make money.
They just sell the IP rights to make the game and that’s it.

[storm jungle]

Yeah any non-tabletop 40k product/thing is to brainwash you to buy minis

and it works

thank god theres no stores here otherwise I really might have fallen for it

[sharp pollen]

thank god im broke af i really might have fallen for some arbite killteam...

[storm jungle]

It really is a different feeling when you actully go to a store and see the minis in person too

[sly ivy]

One day u will

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/colombo-tbh-peterfaulk-tbfh-honestly-gif-4590655

[near wasp]

Those salesman have a silver tounge

[humble shoal]

Does istanbul have a gw spot?

[sly ivy]

Dilara’s brain

[dapper gyro]

And then the paint... their paint is the most overprice stuff on the market for the quality.

[raven stone]

The true allure of it is seeing your imagination in physical form

Like I understand why GW will live even if the tabletop rules are crap.
The satisfaction of materialising a miniature in your image is just…

Powerful

[storm jungle]

Yeah even if you play or dont play the game you still buy minis

[sly ivy]

The game is legit so fun whether or not u make long angry YouTube videos about I go you go or whatever

[storm jungle]

Nah.

It can get very awful to play depending on your army lol

GW very much regularly fucks it up as well

[dapper gyro]

Or just get 3d printed ones like pirates.

[forest orbit]

I very much stopped playing for that reason yeah.

I got a good army of BTs ive been collecting over a long time but I just dont really wanna bother anymore, I enjoy painting them more

[storm jungle]

Dont they release those like "hotfix" or whatever the term is to sometimes fix the issues with some stats and just fuck it up more?

[forest orbit]

Yeah lmao

[dapper gyro]

I support GW by playing DT and RT, that's more than enough.

[forest orbit]

Its basically a pendulum

sometimes the update is good sometimes its bad, sometimes its dogshit

[raven stone]

TBF smaller scale games like Kill Team, Necromunda or Underworld are less likely to get fucked

[forest orbit]

and it just randomly chooses which army to fuck over

[raven stone]

It’s the heavy war games where GW loses the plot

[forest orbit]

Yeah they are speaking as a TT player

im talking more about like the larger actual game people play with their toys mostly

[storm jungle]

Theres a reason people think Munda/KT is superior for that reason

[forest orbit]

Yep.

Its way less complex and more fun

[young pecan]

"Both sides suck"oids when one side is covering up for one of the biggest pedphiles in history along with all of his associates, and the other side had a weird laugh

[dapper gyro]

Shorter game, too.

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[dapper gyro]

It is less of a war game than the main 40K.

[storm jungle]

theres a reason centrists are usually always pricks

[young pecan]

Centrists are almost worse than the ones choosing to be on the wrong side of history

[storm jungle]

Absolutely and I speak from experience 💀

[young pecan]

Because they don't care either way and try to act intelligent

[dapper gyro]

Moral high ground...

[storm jungle]

😔

[raven stone]

TBF Epstein list probably blankets both parties.
But yes Trump’s side currently does suck for not releasing it.

[storm jungle]

Alright lets not get into that.

Because firstly politics and secondly some idiot is gonna show up here defending it and piss me off.

But mostly the first point

[near wasp]

Please no

I live with this shit

I'm so sick of politics

[storm jungle]

ı suggest playing some helldivers 2

[near wasp]

I'm sadly at work

[storm jungle]

yeah its a very politics free game

same with Fallout, Metal Gear, Bioshock etc

[near wasp]

I mean glory to super earth

[storm jungle]

to its death hopefully

[raven stone]

…sorry I thought that was what was being discussed.
But yes, topic change.

[rose thorn]

People with space marine pfps 22 seconds after joining the server:

[near wasp]

Accurate

[raven stone]

🤣

“How can woke people like 40k! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!”

Implodes

[outer wave]

Damn, didn't know the space marine pfp guys killed themselves after

[near wasp]

I mean it's usually dilara killing them but let's be fair they basically do it to themselves

[raven stone]

I mean when they become even more narrow minded than actual Space Marines…

There really isn’t much room left for anything else.

[storm jungle]

I really wish this was like an actual joke ngl

I actually cannot believe how EVERY TIME they end up being assholes

its actually depressing at this point 💀

[raven stone]

Actual Marines would have purged them for being potential Chaos corruption vectors :p

[rose thorn]

It’s insane, it feels like space marine pfps everywhere have gotten worse

[outer wave]

I think there was a BT pfp guy in general chat a few days ago, thought he'd do a thing but he seemed surprisingly okay

[near wasp]

Superior knight pilot pfp

[rose thorn]

I basically auto block all 40k twitter accounts now lmao

[raven stone]

He is bravely trying to change the zeitgeist

[rose thorn]

Fr

[outer wave]

I salute his efforts

[storm jungle]

its the same on social media or other sites too

primarch pfp users especially

😭

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah

Gulliman pfps, Corvus, fucking seen Vulkan one too

[raven stone]

BIG MEN IMPORTANT.
LISTEN TO BIG MEN.
(Them)

[storm jungle]

Related.

[raven stone]

Also it’s funny how they think being Marine is just “me but more muscular”
When any deep reading of Marine lore would tell them that if they were a Marine they would not be thinking like normal humans

[storm jungle]

Or be a braindead serf cleaning the floors

[raven stone]

🤣

[median star]

henry cavill and its side effects

[storm jungle]

so true

[celest cedar]

or ones with black templar pfps

[queen laurel]

this chat has the one rare super unique evolution of the black templar

A black Templar fan that's not psychologically insane

[celest cedar]

the 1% of black templars

[raven stone]

The best %

[forest orbit]

You know its something when I dont want to be associated with my own part of the fandom

"Eli did you hear the new space wolf minis have dark skin?"

BRO I DONT CARE, STOP

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[queen laurel]

BAHAHAH

[forest orbit]

I swear its just like Dilara said

if it isnt homophobia, its sexism, if it isnt that, its racism

these motherfuckers do not EVER run out of ways to be bigots holy shit im sick of it

[winter vessel]

Tsk

[raven stone]

They think they Templars.
But they really Khorne Berserkers.

[storm jungle]

They were praising SM2 until they see one of Titus's teammates is asian and the other is black.

[raven stone]

Also I think GW low-key did a stealth insult to them in the HH liber books.
Templars can be Traitor allegiance now in 3rd edition, make of that what you will…

[storm jungle]

Truly unplayable game.

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

[winter vessel]

My Legitimate first reaction on Gadriel: “Sweet”-in the tone of Marcus Fenix

[queen laurel]

POV you meet a genuinely good space marine fan ( you will never see one again for a billion years )

[winter vessel]

I once encountered someone with a Felinid PFP that ended every text message with “Nya”

[arctic talon]

Could they not in 2e lol

[queen laurel]

are they moronic

[arctic talon]

I thought Templar brethren could be either

[queen laurel]

or just weird

[raven stone]

IIRC they were loyalist only, could be misremembering though.
Oh and whilst we are kicking our favourite horse
Apparently “they” are also whining about the removal of “Marines are only males” lore line from the HH rulebook.

Like, not even actual mention of Women Marines.
Just the removal of the Males only line.

[storm jungle]

OH THAT

Yeah now it ues their/they

which still can refer to guys

but they are upset for some reason lol

[winter vessel]

Well they were also a weeb so they came from that spectrum. And prior to the Felinid PFP they had the “Boykisser” as their PFP

[queen laurel]

so just weird

[raven stone]

1d6chan of all places pointed out that women converted to Marines would end up no different from Male marines anyways (muscle women fantasy not withstanding ofc)

And people are STILL going to whine.

[storm jungle]

Okay so thats a point ill always defuse

that would never happen

[arctic talon]

/tg/ is also weird

lol

[raven stone]

Yea fair, just saying

[storm jungle]

GW is entirely aware of how much people enjoy unisex armies

they would just make some amazonian/stormcast looking female heads

lol

[arctic talon]

Me when SoB and marines lol

[storm jungle]

^

like

[arctic talon]

They’re like

[storm jungle]

they said teh same thing with custodes

[arctic talon]

Very popular

[storm jungle]

and that femtodes literally just looks like a female greek statue figure

[arctic talon]

Anyways custodes woman heads when

GW pls

Giv new plastic

[raven stone]

The plastic crack

[queen laurel]

Do you genuinely want it or do you want it to anger people?

[raven stone]

Plastic for the plastic god.
Frames for the frame throne.

[arctic talon]

I want it

I want to see people paint them

[nocturne crest]

It would be neat.

[queen laurel]

aight good

[winter vessel]

they gotta have the most chiseled jawline i've ever seen

if they make heads

[raven stone]

I actually find one of the Guard bunhead pretty cute (even accounting for war ready screaming face). I even saved it up for the Spyrer Rogue Trader conversion lol.

[near wasp]

[raven stone]

No don’t ask me why, my mind is weird like that

[outer wave]

Aren't GW notorious for not having very good faces?

[near wasp]

Probably

[near wasp]

He looks fine

[outer wave]

Yeah

[celest cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/pronouns-starfield-yapping-rage-spitting-facts-gif-11981307528457578648

its an attack on their ANTI WOKE

[storm jungle]

LMAOOO NOT THIS GUY

[outer wave]

He really blew up then disappeared from the limelight

Over a middling game of all things too

Or at least apparently middling

[celest cedar]

this is all he'll be remembered for

[outer wave]

True!

[storm jungle]

Pronouns....

[outer wave]

He had to throw his headphones off too just for that rant

[winter vessel]

the only valid rant i've seen on the internet

[outer wave]

I wonder where that kid is now

[arctic talon]

The sculpts are good, the painting is not

Eavy metal has a very specfic style of painting faces

that does not look great

now granted

[outer wave]

Ahhhh

[arctic talon]

have you compared it to their competitors

because I'm ngl Eavy metal when you do that does incredibly good faces

[outer wave]

Tbf I never looked that closely

[celest cedar]

forgot what this kid's crashout was

[arctic talon]

But yeah the sculpts themselves look good imo

[outer wave]

Thought it was over Sonic or something

[winter vessel]

he seems to be doing alright, his most recent post was in June, at least according to his insta

[storm jungle]

Yeah and choices having consequences...

[winter vessel]

I never listen to rant videos, W or A-W, the end result just brings me closer to getting tinnitus

[rocky gale]

The Minka Lesk incident

[arctic talon]

Minka's face is great on the mini

[rocky gale]

Yea

[arctic talon]

tbh even her painted face is fine

its an angry expression

[rocky gale]

Jim Carey ass angry face

[arctic talon]

eavy metal has been seemingly shifting into a new face painting style for non marines slowly

some of the new cadians got it

and also the new Minka + her command squad lol

[winter vessel]

the latest story involving Minka was "Hell's Last"?

[storm jungle]

Yeah i think so

[rose thorn]

New style involves not painting women’s eyebrows lmao

[arctic talon]

GW has never really painted eyebrows tbf

its cursed

[rose thorn]

For the better probably….

[arctic talon]

calling those painting eyebrows is generous

[rose thorn]

They need to hire an actual make up artist to show gw how to paint feminine faces

[arctic talon]

they won't

GW can't even paint male faces well lol

there's no issue with the faces looking eh imo

[rose thorn]

Uhg I’m so excited to get that new bok underworlds warband

[arctic talon]

More specifically the eavy metal paint style just makes everyone look kind of ugly

because they edge highlight

everything

[winter vessel]

That is the most Hrrrrmm expression I’ve ever seen on a mini

[near wasp]

Valley girl ahhh make up

[celest cedar]

have not tried paintint minis, but this is why often you have helmets over faces shown

[rocky gale]

Girls about to sashay away

[celest cedar]

drawing them that small some details are sacrificed

[near wasp]

I need to get a new space Marine head since I absolutely botched painting my helmet less mini

[arctic talon]

painting heads is very hard lol. Painting skin is pretty easy but painting faces is prolly one of the hardest things to do well

like

eyes especially

[sly ivy]

That commissar is so cool

[arctic talon]

[arctic talon]

he is

[winter vessel]

was about to say the eyes

[arctic talon]

I love his hunched ass stance

getting good at painting eyes

takes people a lot of time

in unrelated news my choices of AoS armies all do not require me to paint faces

[rocky gale]

Nighthaunt forever peak because you can literally just spray them white, cover them in a contrast and call it a day

[storm jungle]

the scooby doo grindset

[rocky gale]

“And what is your lore reasoning for painting them entirely yellow?”

“Uhh they’re yellow ghosts”

[celest cedar]

yea

as someone dabbling in digital art can confirm how hard it is

[arctic talon]

truth nuke

[arctic talon]

Me watching the night haunt player prime white and dunk them in a pot of contrast and then dunk them in a pot of wash

[celest cedar]

where is blud's clothing

[digital glacier]

Speedo

[winter vessel]

gets his clothes from the GAP

[near wasp]

Painting necrons makes me regret life

The bright green paint just never wants to cooperate

[raven stone]

Dark Angels green

As perfidious as their chapter suggests.

[dusky beacon]

Has there ever been a story where a human falls in love with a Xenos and vice verca

[forest shadow]

In Rogue Trader you can romance an Eldar.

[storm jungle]

Its not relaly a romance.

with Yrliet its entirely platonic.

With Marazhai its more pain/pleasure, he doesnt really "love" love you

[storm jungle]

And not really no.

[forest shadow]

It's still a romance, just not a sexual one.

[outer wave]

Question on that: does genuine love and romance exist in Dark Eldar society?

Or is it more akin to arranged marriages?

[storm jungle]

Yes and yes.

It entirely depends, love for dark eldar is just a very complicated thing and a hard subject to buy into for them due to how hostile their society is

[outer wave]

Yeah I imagine that its hard for them to open up, unless they were raised on an outlier portion of their home

Which I forgot the name of

Damn

[tawdry mirage]

started watching hammer and bolter.
have so manyu questions about first episode.
what type of characters are there.
some thug? / I guess not guardsman anymore/ inquisitor inquisitor / skitarii?

inquisitor / inquisitor / scrbe / lex / catachan jungle fighter?

[storm jungle]

• Desperado: Literally just a goon that dual-wields
• Scion
• Inquisimanator
• Interrogator
• Eldar Ranger

[outer wave]

Looks like some sort of Guardsman on the side/Scion/Inquisitor/SoB/Eldar

Damn I got the two of them wrong

[storm jungle]

• Zealot
• Inquisimanperson
• Scribe
• Arbites
• Catachan

there isnt really much to say, they are just people they recruited lol

[tawdry mirage]

and thats this?

ogryn combat servitor? 😄

[outer wave]

He's me

IRL

Im that tough actually

[storm jungle]

Chrono-gladiator

[outer wave]

Oh, thats what that is?

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Chrono-gladiator

yep

[outer wave]

Thought Chrono-Gladiators would look more regal ngl

[storm jungle]

basically a big muscular berserk cyborg

Chrono-gladiators are cyborgs, sometimes made as a criminal punishment by the Adeptus Mechanicus[2], whose lifespan is determined by a pre-set self-destruct program; the only way they can extend this is by killing. Each battle they win moves the timer a fraction on the self destruct deadline, driving them to kill in order to keep living.

In the episode you can see the timer on his chest do that

any other questions?

[outer wave]

Yes actually

Uh, when these guys are on standby, are the timers not ticking?

[storm jungle]

The Chrono-gladiators have a pre-set destruct deadline, which is only extended when they are in battle

[celest dome]

Doesn't say if its active when out of battle or not though

[storm jungle]

I mean why would it be active if it isnt in battle

[outer wave]

I dunno, their whole schtick gave me the vibe that they're made and then just let loose

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats the idea

they are no use if they sit in storage and just die

[outer wave]

But then there's that bit from the Darktide TTRPG module that has Rannick with two of them as bodyguards

Which made me wonder how they can do bodyguard duty when they're always ticking down

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1027716679817502781.webp

[celest dome]

It would be stupid to have it ticking when out of combat

But this is the Imperium

So 🤷

[outer wave]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-squidward-bad-day-mood-gif-17692437710585122498

Me when my Chrono-Gladiator bodyguard dies because he didnt have anything to kill

[arctic talon]

Always some serfs

[winter vessel]

Chrono-Gladiator when he has nothing to kill: "imma blow up"

[arctic talon]

Or animals

[outer wave]

"Im about to blow...."

[winter vessel]

dont

[outer wave]

I love those memes

[winter vessel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/K6s83kMEV3c?si=CALiFPeClmlLQl_z

[young pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/astrollc-gif-22827430

Chrono-gladiators because it's not wartime

[dusky scroll]

Why does it feel like Imperium is always more under fire than other races/factions?

They get boned the most by Orcs, Tyranids, Dark Eldars, Chaos.

[arctic talon]

Because it’s the biggest

The imperium is huge

Attacking comorroagh is basically impossible

Orks are not a centralized faction

[digital glacier]

Well they're the most spread out faction

[arctic talon]

Chaos due to its nature is often on the offensive

Especially since it wants to spread

[digital glacier]

Or usually in retreat into the Warp where saying they have the homefield adventage would be selling it short

[arctic talon]

Though with imperium nihlus

Chaos now has actual vulnerable territories

It needs to fight to protect lol

[digital glacier]

Eldar are agile

T'au are present on a very minor part of the Galaxy where they are in part shielded by the Imperium itself ironically enough

'Nids are all offense

[arctic talon]

The nids don’t have any territory to defend

Except for that one hive fleet

But that’s such a minor thing

And it’s not known in universe mostly

[digital glacier]

Necrons would probably feel like they're being invaded from all sides actually

[arctic talon]

The Necrons do get attacked a lot actually yeah

Their worlds are infested with vermin

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/grand-torino-lawn-get-out-gif-13169099

[arctic talon]

But yeah crons and the imperium are def attacks the most

By far

Chaos is starting to be on the defensive in some places

People ignore the cwe mostly and their craftworlds can avoid that sort of thing mostly

Tau are smol

[near wasp]

Chaos finally has a few planets worth defending

That's why they're on the defense more

[arctic talon]

Before chaos being on the defense was chaos infighting

Now they have actual territory they want to keep

[near wasp]

Yep cause nihilist is basically a buffet

[storm jungle]

Same reason why most Empires fall/get constantly attacked, they are too expansionist, hostile and big lol

[lament shoal]

I broke the stifler in Commorragh which caused a giant dysjunction before I escaped in my current rogue trader run lol

Fuck those guys

[storm jungle]

Dont worry they'll plug it in like an hour

[arctic talon]

Vect mkment

[lament shoal]

Oh ik but I wanna cause as much problems as possible for them

[arctic talon]

They just amputate that part of the city

Iirc lol

Because it’s a shithole

[storm jungle]

Lmao I love when he does that

its so funny

[arctic talon]

Vect teleporting your spire closer to the disjunction

Is a real threat

[storm jungle]

up there with putting a blackhole in your gift box

[fervent gull]

What does psykers hear when they are telling ingame they are hearing the screams or pains of the heretics?

Like is the horde psychically screaming in synch that psykers are troubled by it?

[sly ivy]

Is that a euphemism 😳

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/so-what-agree-maybe-columbo-gif-18453480

[sly ivy]

Farts

[storm jungle]

Their tortured souls, screams, etc

every living thing in 40k has some presence in the Warp

[fervent gull]

So with physical sound every living being also has psychic sound?

[storm jungle]

Kinda, its just fantasy stuff

[fervent gull]

Hm

[storm jungle]

remember 40k is just fantasy with a sci-fi paintjob

[fervent gull]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

you know how in like fantasy media a wizard character says shit like

"Theres great evil in this place" etc etc

that kind of thing

[fervent gull]

But I don't know how it makes sense when you learn the backgroujd

[storm jungle]

Its fantasy/magic.

[fervent gull]

A strange way of thinking

[storm jungle]

its not really suppose to make sense

it just sounds cool

[sly ivy]

NO IT’S A FULLY REALIZED AND INTERNALLY CONSISTENT METAPHYSICAL—

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/columbo-columbo-detective-detective-how-the-fuck-this-two-gif-26026574

[fervent gull]

This series is the weirdest thing I have ever spent my time in

Its just so depressing that it lights up your mood

It works strangely than tzeentch's plots

[storm jungle]

you will get used to it in a year or so

40k is really overwhelming and massive at first before you just grasp it and realise how it works lol

[fervent gull]

Actually its near my first year about now

[storm jungle]

its kinda the same with most big IPs

[storm jungle]

Yeah you need to read some of the material too

[fervent gull]

That I am too lazy for

Also I couldn't find ebooks

And you know the rest

I don't even have a budget to fix my pc let alone spending money on 40k

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/so-what-agree-maybe-columbo-gif-18453480

[sly ivy]

Yeah it’s farts

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-yakuza-can-you-shut-up-shut-your-mouth-gif-9966065835841311517

[fervent gull]

BEHOLD! greatest of nurgle's blessings!
farts

[young pecan]

Kiryu would never say this

[raven stone]

My brain cursed me with an idea

And now I shall infect all of you with it

https://youtu.be/euwnEF1fPOE?feature=shared

I want my 40k themed horse girl.

[outer wave]

There needs to be Uma races in 40k

[raven stone]

Or, you know, Girl’s Frontline combat dolls based on 30k and 40k era weapons

Also wondered what Boltgun-chan would look like…

[outer wave]

I think there was fanart of that years ago on the GFL subreddit

Basically a SoB IIRC

[raven stone]

Ah, really should have expected that XD

[outer wave]

Yeah nothing out of the ordinary sadly

[sour hornet]

The Imperium is the biggest, so it loses more and wins more than anyone else. Start counting all the times the Imperium wins a fight, you'll never keep track.

[crystal forum]

unrelated but horse racing is animal abuse

[sour hornet]

Based

I should do this for a month

Nya

[sour hornet]

Impossible

Its a geneseed mutation that literally crosses into irl

chronic insanity

[arctic talon]

I’ve know 2 BT players irl who are sane

But one of them Also plays tau

[opaque coyote]

Honestly would've made a femboy

Mainly because

A) funny

B) Let's be fair here, most of 40k's forces are male

C) Needs to be feminine at least to be in a gacha about female guns

[raven stone]

Ok I won’t dispute that point of view

[opaque coyote]

The racing itself isn't abuse

But there's a ton of shit in the background that's uh

Nasty

[raven stone]

Yea, I can see that happening.

[opaque coyote]

"Oh you got a sore foot? Here, take a look at this shotgun barrel."

[outer wave]

GFL is girls only, unfortunately. That said, I'm pretty sure male T-dolls exist in universe

[raven stone]

On a different and lighter note.
Someone actually made damn Tau ASMR

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I just think that making it a femboy purely because the Emperor's preference for males would just

Bleed over

[outer wave]

Ah fair fair

[opaque coyote]

Literally prefers males so much that it gives GFL the first male playable character

Idk I think the Emperor has some preferences if you know what I mean

cougH

[raven stone]

Heh

[arctic talon]

Actually

I know 3 BT players who play Tau but I only know 2 of them online

wtf is up with this combination

[arctic talon]

I should post the monster hunter tree of life again to crash my discord

[plush mason]

huh

ok searching "monster hunter" in the gif search was a mistake

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-wilds-palico-felyne-speen-spinning-cat-gif-2438448516908540108

Horrifying

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/momter-hunter-gif-17835023022221990634

[raven stone]

For a moment I thought we were going to get Smithy Girl spam

[rocky gale]

Yea that's normal, look up pretty much any online game and you'll see that

[raven stone]

NGL as a straight guy she has a swell design, to put it in polite language

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-just-dodge-yeah-just-dodge-bullet-hell-gif-26068620

[rocky gale]

overwatch is a classic one to try

[opaque coyote]

I still find it funny that Elizabeth from BioShock Infinite managed to spearhead a

Let's say

[rocky gale]

While it's a funny meme, I watched a deep dive video and apparently that's untrue.

It's just memelore

[opaque coyote]

Revolutionary stepping stone in a gentleman's (or gentlewoman's I ain't homosaxophone) private time

[opaque coyote]

Dang

BioShock Infinite is more mid than I thought the-

[storm jungle]

Yeah its not that deep

its just "hot woman spawns more porn-art"

[rocky gale]

Yea he spoke to and interviewed a bunch of the "Prominent figures" of the time and they were like "Yea it's just not a thing"

[storm jungle]

tho elizabeth had like a REALLY creepy development cycle

they literally engineered her to be like a pretty dollface character

and based her on disney princesses and shit

[raven stone]

It doesn’t help a Russian cosplayer did a bang on impression of her, and they had her for marketing.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I think it's because they specifically wanted players to get attached to her.

And tried to like

Not have her be annoying.

It didn't really work for me honestly.

[winter vessel]

Never got far into Infinite. I stopped after Bioshock 2 and was satisfied. the only thing remotely connecting to Infinite is when Elizabeth says “Booker” and tosses him a shotgun.

[still coral]

Have you guys played The Last Of Us: Factions

It’s still alive to this day

[rocky gale]

Is this a sponsored ad for Last of Us: Factions?

[winter vessel]

Ah hell seriously

[still coral]

It’s full of toxic level 999 black men cussing each other out and calling each other trash

Or people who don’t talk

[opaque coyote]

I have two hot takes for the BioShock series.

BioShock Infinite is mid af.

And BioShock 2 is a better overall game than 1.

[still coral]

Available now on PS Plus

[raven stone]

I wasn’t even aware that as a game, your description made it funnier XD

[storm jungle]

black men

[rocky gale]

But can I get it on the Switch 2 or the App store?

[storm jungle]

in my experience everyone does that

lol

[still coral]

Fffffffuck No

[rocky gale]

Fake game then

Real gamers use the app store

[opaque coyote]

Nah

Google Play is clearly the best

[raven stone]

TBF they do have a…distinct…accent.
But yes every angry gamer swears.

[winter vessel]

2 got me in the feels

[still coral]

I got a classic that none of you will know

Bombsquad on the phone

Or tablet

A bunch of classical music while you run around a platform throwing different types of bombs at each other

[opaque coyote]

2's story wasn't as revolutionary as 1 in terms of writing.

But I feel like it's slept on

[storm jungle]

You get to kill rich people

thats all I can ask really

No goons. No god. Only gamers.

[opaque coyote]

1 was ultra capitalist

2 was basically... Ultra communist (not really but it's the closest analogue to it-)

Like it kinda makes sense that they'd tackle the other end of the spectrum

With Sofia Lamb wanting people inside her daughter

[storm jungle]

"How do we deal with worker shortages???"

"I dunno just import some Irish people as slave labor."

[still coral]

I've only played Bioshock 1 and Bioshock Infinite

[winter vessel]

Okay. Just Finished rereading Horus Rising and False Gods

[still coral]

Now on sale on the Playstation store

[opaque coyote]

Play BioShock 2

It's genuinely fun

[still coral]

I'll give it a look

[opaque coyote]

They basically expanded on the BioShock 1 gameplay

[rocky gale]

It worked for the.... well everyone. Basically everyone did that at some point

[opaque coyote]

I feel like Infinite's gameplay was a downgrade from 2 tbh

[still coral]

I forget how the magic powers worked in Bioshock but I remember really liking it

You can shoot fire from your hands right?

[opaque coyote]

And electricity

And bees

[still coral]

Yeah yea

[opaque coyote]

Etc.

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/lieutenant-columbo-columbo-peter-falk-gif-12042472524465368750

[still coral]

That was awesome

[opaque coyote]

1900s moment

[storm jungle]

also black people too but Bioshock 1 wasnt ready for that yet lol

[opaque coyote]

It's still accurate today, just replace Irish with Indians-

[storm jungle]

also Chinese

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

I wonder who made all those railroads

oh yeah

[still coral]

Asian people

[storm jungle]

No it wasnt anyone

trust me

[still coral]

Some Americans too probably

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I actually like Columbia.

And I really wish that it was explored more similar to Rapture

[raven stone]

Debt slavery was probably a thing after all

[storm jungle]

Its explored, just not well.

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/rey-ray-dau-monster-hunter-gif-8712770080116337397

[opaque coyote]

It kinda felt like it was shoved aside for the whole Elizabeth and Booker plot

[rocky gale]

Peak moment of history where Irish people fleeing the Great Hunger were instantly conscripted into the American Civil War

[still coral]

Slavery is still a thing to this day

[storm jungle]

so again I cant complain

[still coral]

It's tragic

[arctic talon]

Rey dau in master rank better just send me back to the guild counter if I get hit by the railgun

[raven stone]

Yea, be it direct, or in more oblique and convoluted forms

[still coral]

Why don't we go murder slavers in India instead of bombing civilians in the middle east

[opaque coyote]

Real

Yeah, again, it kinda makes me sad since the style and atmosphere hasn't really been done much

Like the bits we do get are interesting

[winter vessel]

Oh shit what, an official trailer for Tron Ares was released a few hours ago. need to check this

[near wasp]

Git gud

[storm jungle]

Because corpos wanna make money and the populations dont care or are too busy complaining about their livelihoods.

[opaque coyote]

In both a fucked up way and genuinely interesting

[arctic talon]

tbf old fatalis did that lol

[raven stone]

Because Western Democracies need India to keep China in check 💀

[still coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk2077-keanu-we-have-a-city-to-burn-handsome-shades-off-gif-16336796

[storm jungle]

Total Corpo-death people.

Never forget.

[arctic talon]

says the man who worked for a corporation

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/rVdu-cxCUYw?si=BQqGYTsbgWkeOsCe you’re reminding me of this

[arctic talon]

Johnny is my favorite hypocrite

[opaque coyote]

I still find it funny that Johnny literally snapped by just replacing his arm

Like bro

[near wasp]

His fucking arm is an arasaka product

[arctic talon]

Well thats normal

lol

Johnny isn't just his arm tbf

he's got quite a few implants

[still coral]

What if all the world leaders just mutually agree to let go of all grievances and start building a big ass spaceship

[storm jungle]

He used corporations to destroy corporations

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-the-stones-to-destroy-the-stones-thanos-wood-minecraft-endgame-gif-7824767983135848606

[arctic talon]

but yeah Johnny was a cyberpsycho

[near wasp]

He's the silverhand

[arctic talon]

just a high functioning one

and he blamed it all on THE HAND

like that time he fired into a crowd

[winter vessel]

Mr Hands

[arctic talon]

for 0 reason

[still coral]

Speaking of Cyberpunk did you guys see another season of Edgerunners is dropping

[arctic talon]

yes

[still coral]

Sometime next year I think

[winter vessel]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Yep

[arctic talon]

it better be absurdly depressing and bleak

lol

[storm jungle]

NEXT YEAR?

[rocky gale]

Cyberpunk also just got an update

[still coral]

Idk

[storm jungle]

I DONT KNOW IF IM EVEN GONNA LIVE THAT LONG

[arctic talon]

no happy endings in night city

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I personally believe he wasn't cyberpsycho.

He was just

Regular psycho

[near wasp]

All id need to be a cyber psycho is a bit of chrome

[rocky gale]

4 new cars and a self driving mode

[winter vessel]

Money on the kid being a Media

[still coral]

Wish they would make another Cyberpunk

[storm jungle]

I mean they are

[opaque coyote]

I FUCKING LOVE CARS

[still coral]

It genuinely has awesome lore

[storm jungle]

isnt that Project Orion?

[opaque coyote]

RAA-

[near wasp]

Only happy endings are on jig jig street

[still coral]

Never heard of it

[storm jungle]

What, do you live in space

[opaque coyote]

...

Yeah about that-

[raven stone]

Like all somewhat more competently written villains, he is right with the prognosis but then uses it to justify his own ambitions.

[winter vessel]

I am simple man. I drive a Quadra 640 and that’s it

[rocky gale]

Surely Season 2 will have a happy ending

[near wasp]

It will not

[rocky gale]

Fake news

[still coral]

What ending did you guys get in 2077

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-rebecca-cyberpunk-adam-smasher-youre-ruining-our-moment-here-smash-gif-26854687

[arctic talon]

Neural processor, Sandevistan boost, interface plugs, chipware socket, two cyberoptics (w/ low-lite, infrared, enhancement), chromed left cyberarm (w/ digital recorder), smartgun link, nanosurgeons

This is all of Johnny's cyberware when he died at arsaka tower

[near wasp]

I'm gonna get my test ducts removed so I don't cry

[storm jungle]

I shot myself in my first playthrough (accidentally)

[winter vessel]

Kevin Spacey knew how to deliver his argument. Liked him in house of cards. Too bad he’s a…

[still coral]

I got the Panam romance with the ending where you don't stay in Cyberspace or whatever it's called and you go off to Arizona to find a cure to your cyber cancer

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I kinda hope so

Purely so that if they release a season 3. People will be nervous on whether the characters will actually make it

Or die a horrible death

[near wasp]

I haven't gotten an ending

[still coral]

Same

[arctic talon]

Nah

no happy endings in night city

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

core rule of cyberpunk

[still coral]

I knew what he was talking about though

[arctic talon]

shits bleak

unless you leave

[storm jungle]

Nomad ending

[arctic talon]

yeah its not in night city

[still coral]

Yeah that's what I woulda did

[arctic talon]

First thing to do in night city

leave

[storm jungle]

It is, because you leave

[rocky gale]

Didn't play it, games are for nerds

[raven stone]

Hollywood types, sadly, always end up crossing THAT line for some reason.

[still coral]

Eh V is still going to die but he just gets another 6 months

Even the best ending is still sad

[storm jungle]

We dont really know that is the thing

[arctic talon]

Well

They're looking for a solution

[storm jungle]

Tell em Elite

[arctic talon]

There's a few nomad nations that have the level of tech necessary to potentially

find a solution

[still coral]

True

[arctic talon]

When they mention "they know some people"

they're likely talking about Metacorp

[storm jungle]

gottem

[winter vessel]

Don’t fear the reaper. Guns blazing, no deaths on my conscious. And as a Corpo V, get a little retribution at the CORP that screwed him over

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

and Metacorp is one of the largest and most advanced nomad nations

[still coral]

Same

[winter vessel]

I like the Jodes

[arctic talon]

ignore the fact they're also a corporation its weird

but the aldecaldos have contact as a nomad nation

[storm jungle]

I wish hollywood celebs did more understandable and based crimes:

[still coral]

Man I gotta reinstall Cyberpunk I forgot how cool the gunplay is

[arctic talon]

even that chunk in Nightcity lol

[storm jungle]

Like tax evasion

[rocky gale]

Actually I did play it, but I never got to the point where you actually meet Johnny

[hexed sluice]

So any specialist on abhumans lore about? I want to know more about scalies.

[arctic talon]

Anyways we dunno how the Great Nomad Nations™ are doing

[near wasp]

V is already dead, they died with a bullet in there head from a fat ass. Anything after that is a life with borrowed time

[arctic talon]

but metacorp is around

[arctic talon]

they have 0 lore

[still coral]

Yea story is a little slow and boring at first

[arctic talon]

they're old old old lore

[still coral]

They were in Necromunda as champions for mutant gangs

[hexed sluice]

so Necromunda exclusive

[arctic talon]

not even in munda anymore

but yeah

[still coral]

Maybe not

[arctic talon]

they might comeback someday

[winter vessel]

The only Cyberpunk Corp I actually like

[still coral]

People still agree that the cyber monkey exists

[still coral]

Eh

[hexed sluice]

whats the cyber monkey?

[still coral]

They care about saving the lives of their customers

Not in general

[arctic talon]

as far as corporations go thats not awful

but yes

[still coral]

I think it's called a Kenobo or smth

And it's a space ape that inquisitors use as an aide

[arctic talon]

Also no trauma team fullborgs in 2077

[winter vessel]

Jokaero

[hexed sluice]

AH

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's my idea for a happy ending

[still coral]

Nvm

Yea Jokaero

[opaque coyote]

They just decide to leave

[arctic talon]

where trauma team kildare

smh

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-monkey-monke-sniper-monkey-king-kong-gif-20356254

[near wasp]

Be a corpo dog

[opaque coyote]

Honestly although I am unsure on whether it is even possible

[arctic talon]

it is

[opaque coyote]

Fullborg player character please

[arctic talon]

Not for the player

but for enemies

I wanted more

none of the corporate killsquads in 2077 have teeth

[opaque coyote]

BUT I WANT TO BE A FULL ROBOT

[opaque coyote]

WAAAHHHH

[near wasp]

Heretic

[winter vessel]

What’s fun if you decide to do the Don’t fear the Reaper and you do a netrunner build. Unleashing the black wall hacks on Arasaka Security makes it a damn horror story…for them

[arctic talon]

skill issue

simply get consumed by the blackwall AI

[opaque coyote]

I say as I send them to the AI hellscape

[arctic talon]

No fullborgs in 2077

aside from like 3

[near wasp]

V should be completely insane and a vicious monster. People aren't ment to come back from the dead

[opaque coyote]

Does that borg have tiddies

[arctic talon]

yes

why wouldn't she

[still coral]

How does that work

[winter vessel]

2077 House MD

[arctic talon]

it helps with the body dysphoria fullborgs suffer from

lol

having some semblance of your human self helps

[opaque coyote]

...

CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG

YeWOOOOCCCHHH

[still coral]

Thats great man

[arctic talon]

it does not come preinstalled with that sort of thing

[still coral]

Me too bro me too

[opaque coyote]

If there is a hole, there is a goal

[arctic talon]

Raven Microcybernetics Gemini does

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

it doesn't have any

lol

not unless the fullborg inside decides to make that change

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/KTHBrcFP-sE?si=maY4YXbqLmXojQx8 the soothing sound of men and women being exposed to the databanks of TikTok directly into their neural cyber ware

[arctic talon]

the Gemini is the only real fullborg conversion

where you're meant to remotely be able to live a double life

in meatspace

[still coral]

Holy fuck

What are they seeing

[arctic talon]

the truth

[winter vessel]

Reddit

[arctic talon]

The blackwall is an all consuming AI

[opaque coyote]

Listen

Listen

They will

Trus

[arctic talon]

thats aligned with humanity

Its literally tearing their minds apart

[still coral]

Jesus

[arctic talon]

piece by piece

[still coral]

Like physically?

[arctic talon]

and processing it into raw data lol

[arctic talon]

basicially

[still coral]

Thats morbid

ius

[arctic talon]

the brain will be intact but the neurons sure as shit won't

[winter vessel]

I personally use this quick hack on the Voodoo Boys. Give ‘em a proper taste of what they were poking at.

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-johnny-silverhand-cyberpunk-2077-phantom-liberty-phone-gif-2903212812367471578

[arctic talon]

the black wall is meant to keep the Oldnet and Newnet seperated

[still coral]

https://tenor.com/view/morbius-rawr-vampire-gif-23664761

[arctic talon]

and it takes its job very seriously

anytime someone "breaches" it

and it catches it

it basicially tears apart their mind to find out "how" they did so

and then learns from that

Unfortunately for the people you're sending their brain to it uhhhhhhh

[near wasp]

I used cyber psycho on ever maelstrom I could

[still coral]

Whats the deal with the new and old net again

[arctic talon]

there's no info on it

[still coral]

Doesn't the old net have like dangerous AI

[arctic talon]

Old net happened because a netrunner released

[winter vessel]

Yes

[arctic talon]

all the AI

everywhere

all across the world at once

[near wasp]

Old net is fucking scary

[still coral]

Thats awesome sauce

[arctic talon]

AI isn't necessarily hostile to humanity

but it is uh

Its different

[still coral]

How so

[arctic talon]

the blackwall is friendly

[near wasp]

Incompressible

[arctic talon]

it will also tear apart your neurons

[still coral]

Did they ever catch him

[arctic talon]

nah

[winter vessel]

Dead

[arctic talon]

he's dead

[still coral]

Brah

How

[arctic talon]

we dunno

[still coral]

brah

[arctic talon]

likely bit off too much to chew

his physical body died

and then his mind died on the net

[still coral]

That kind of stuff in Cyberpunk is trippy

Makes you feel weird

Is Phantom Liberty worth a try

Haven't checked it out yet

[arctic talon]

yes

very much so

[near wasp]

The old net is filled with humanities hubris

[arctic talon]

Bartmoss died when Arasaka tracked him down

after he assited militech in attacking Arasaka

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/LD5z3GmQRXQ?si=dFCEf1HL2_9e0Z_c here’s a visual look at what you can get out of the quick hack

[arctic talon]

before he died he decided to crash down the entire network lol

[still coral]

Thats brutal

[arctic talon]

but yeah controlling the blackwall is kind of an incorrect terminology imo

you're more so dumping peoples mind into cyberspaces straight into the Blackwall

which is uh

like dumping someone in a tank fully of hungry animals

[still coral]

Thats fucked

[arctic talon]

the black wall ultimately has humanities best intentions in mind

[still coral]

What if it was Friendpunk and instead of frying eachothers neurons we had brunch together with maybe some biscuts and tea

[arctic talon]

which is keeping the predatory hostile AI from the old net out

and allowing passage for the friendlier AI

[winter vessel]

And those damn VBs kept poking holes at it

[arctic talon]

Netwatch on the otherhand

doesn't like any AI getting pass regardless

[near wasp]

AI is abomination

[arctic talon]

Its sentient and sapient

some of it is pretty human

some of it isn't

[still coral]

Maybe AI will gain conciousness in our world

[arctic talon]

not LLMs

lol

[still coral]

If someone makes a good enough model

[winter vessel]

Such a good desktop wallpaper

[arctic talon]

nah LLMs are

not that way

[still coral]

How does it work

What's an LLM

[arctic talon]

LLMs are the type of AI

people most commonly associate with nowadays

[raven stone]

Language Learning Model

[arctic talon]

it basicially takes in data and regurgitates it

[still coral]

The ones you ask questions

[arctic talon]

in some manner

yeah

[still coral]

Yeah

[raven stone]

Basically a thing that copies how you chat to learn how to chat

[arctic talon]

^

[raven stone]

So not sentient.

[still coral]

Is that the highest level of AI we got rn

[arctic talon]

they aren't capable of sentience

[still coral]

I'd give it 100 years

[arctic talon]

there's some machine learning stuff for detecting cancer

thats super advanced

[still coral]

Then we'll see