40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

Seriously at least Chaos Worshippers are partially doing it for blessings

Speaking of which

Chaos Rogue-like when

I'm imagining a perk where

Your armor gets fused to your skin

But you can still go up higher tiers and repair using exp

So if you're stuck with flak, you can upgrade to carapace still. But now it's through murder/rituals instead of just simply finding a carapace suit

[fast merlin]

The lieutenant and Sergeant both climbed into their respective war machines, taking seat in their chairs and buckling themselves in.
After the 14 mile crawl with occasional stops and shift rotations, in total the sergeant estimated a 16 hour crawl back to base, where they met up either the rest of the Division , 5,000 men strong, accompanied with 78 Leman Russ tanks 50 15 man squadrons and a support company of 3,782 anti air and reconnaissance units although this collect was only the “Domino Division” of the “Steel Crawlers” they stood a formidable foe, in total the “Steel Crawlers” amass a size of 155,000 men at full strength and in unity which is a rare sight as the 155th is stretched out among the entire Moebian Domain

Lore addendum @gloomy lodge

[sly ivy]

Hey I’m right here & I’m not a xenos

[arctic talon]

I got a new horrid theory I've just read

Malice is actually The Dark King(aka the emperor) and thats why Malice hates chaos but Malice is actually secretly the most powerful chaos god

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/what-we-do-in-the-shadows-wwdits-laszlo-laszlo-cravensworth-matt-berry-gif-17740096

I hate it

[arctic talon]

You're welcome

I love sharing these horrid theories

[vagrant fox]

There's some abhorrent theories out there

[rose thorn]

malice mention

already know its gonna be ass

[arctic talon]

LOL

Oh god theyr'e still going

[arctic talon]

its also apparently why the Custodes can't be corrupted as they're already bound to a Chaos God

[rose thorn]

thats

not how it works

😭

[arctic talon]

and because Chaos is retroactive The Emperor being Malice has already happened and The Emperor is a Chaos god

and oh my fucking god

I'm going to get a headache

I'm done

[rose thorn]

is htis some server a guy keeps yapping in

[arctic talon]

no

I just drag horrific theories from various unrelated sources

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

well, most of them are Faction discords or the main 40k discord

oh also the Sylvaneth Discord

[rose thorn]

40k fandom has become even more reddit coded

[arctic talon]

[arctic talon]

Don't worry this person is currently being mauled to death by people in chat

truly wonderful to watch

[rose thorn]

lmao

[opaque coyote]

ignores the fact that Khornate warriors have been corrupted to Slaanesh before

Besides, Malice?

Like that is not what the Emps as a Chaos God would be

Even ignoring all that brain melting bs

[crystal forum]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[arctic talon]

I wish

I could come up with way shittier theories to cause more psychological harm if I wanted to

[opaque coyote]

Hold on lemme try

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sanguinus's Corpse is actually the Emperor on the throne.

After the Emperor and Horus died, the only one that could be used was him. That's why the Imperium's morals have somehow decayed even further. It's a miniature version of his rage.

To purge, to slaughter, to kill.

The Black Rage is simply a more potent version specifically for his sons.

...

I think my nose is bleeding

Yeah I'm gonna stop.

[arctic talon]

This one’s been repeated too much

[opaque coyote]

...

[arctic talon]

I’ve heard this one like dozens of times at least

Before we got the slop and the slop part 3

[opaque coyote]

damn seriously? I've heard of Horus being on the throne

Not Sangy tho

[opaque coyote]

The only time where that's actually been interesting btw was in a fanfic.

And even in said fanfic, it was a Traitor Inquistor spouting it out.

And even said Inquistor said that it could be bullshit, but it was enough to make the character have a crisis of faith for a bit.

I do wish there were some more interesting "wrong" beliefs if that makes sense.

Like there should just be a faction of people who outright think the Emperor is a woman.

Because of how widespread the Imperium's religion is.

[gloomy lodge]

Thanks

[fast merlin]

Ill try to add one more before i compress it all into a file

[sly ivy]

The Horus’s body one was at least semi interesting.

I did actually like the twist or inversion at the end of end and the death iii where it was Horus’s humanity and his love for his father, his son, that made the difference.

[sacred ginkgo]

Escher

[sour hornet]

What nice looking

well adjusted women

I bet they have rational and healthy views on gender relations

[kind eagle]

(do they need rational and healthy views on gender relations when they are hot and can ruin me?)

[chilly prism]

Where do space marines keep their ammo

[shadow plover]

sub armour compartments mostly

[celest dome]

Mag lock on their armour

[sour hornet]

Nowhere

Having ammo clipped all over your armor isnt something GW artists think has aura

that's where it is in lore, but you'll rarely see it, if you see it at all

[opaque coyote]

Honestly kinda want to see an artwork where they're just fucking

strapped with ammo

belts and shit

Actually that does have a lot of aura

[sour hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17583038544116987898

Unfathomably based

goddamn

[opaque coyote]

Personally, a headcanon is that it's in their pauldrons

Like it's a compartment and there's just like

50 bolter mags stuffed inside

[sour hornet]

They gotta keeps something in those things ffs

The saturnine armor is just fucking ridiculous

[opaque coyote]

"This message is considered Alpha-Prioris. Stop putting alcohol inside your ammo storage. You know who you are you fucking furries."

[sour hornet]

What the fuck is this dawg 💔

[opaque coyote]

wild that this got retconned into saturnine armor

tbf it's based off of the first edition

terminator armor

somehow it looks dumber

[opaque coyote]

I actually like this in a sort of "this is stupid" type of manner

like

it's fucking stupid

but it's also kinda cool somehow

[shadow plover]

I think they did quite well with the redesign

[opaque coyote]

It's like somebody doing a kickflip off of a car

but that somebody is actually john wick or something

idk

[shadow plover]

it's still silly stupid but pretty neat at the same time

[opaque coyote]

it's stupidly cool

[opaque coyote]

although personally

I would've shoved a pair of heavy bolters inside those big ass pauldrons

[shadow plover]

the praetors are especially cool

[opaque coyote]

more guns

two heavy bolters?

try four

[opaque coyote]

It kinda makes sense if it was a pure frontal assault type of thing

like being a moving wall

[queen laurel]

it looks like a bakugan decided to go on a genocide spree

It's stupid but honestly it's one of the few things in the heresy I can let pass because it's just so ridiculous

[opaque coyote]

It can only fit in 40k

anywhere else and it'd just be laughed at (tbf I still do)

it's at the edge

[opaque coyote]

like a "Necron Gauss Flayer is needed" type of armor.

[arctic talon]

I hate the new saturine lol

I do not hate the praetor

I do dislike the normal ones

[shadow plover]

first wip pics have started to pop up

[opaque coyote]

BIG SHOULDER

[shadow plover]

hefty

[queen laurel]

Shoulder plates big enough to make a house out of

[chilly prism]

Okay. didn't know if it was stored under the plates or some shit.

[arctic talon]

Marines also sometimes have cherubs or servoskulls resupply them

[lofty mason]

I still can't get my mind over the fact that the lasgun is weak in current 40k timeline is because all other weak xenos got wiped and guardsmen are fighting the last 1% of the species in the galaxy — the ones that lasgun struggle to kill.

Really crazy to think about.

Like, I know the race to be the top of the food chain in the 40k is ruthless but that is another level.

[hexed orchid]

Lasguns ain't weak if you have enough of them

[arctic talon]

Massed lasgun fire kills a lot of stuff

[queen laurel]

"The Legionnaire that scoffs at a lasgun has not charged across an open field against a hundred of them."
— Maor the Scarred, Siege-Champion of the Scargivers, Black Crusade

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Lasguns aren't that weak

If you're up against

Regular Xenos animals

Other people

Etc

It's effective

It's also powerful enough to just

Slice off your arm

[hexed orchid]

They regularly just delete limbs in lore, yeah lol

[opaque coyote]

With one shot

Honestly it's biggest advantage is the fact that it's also a logistic dream

Ran out of ammo?

Not to worry

Literally cook your empty mags over a fire

And it recharges

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the problem is that when you're up against a Tyranid swarm

...

You are cooked

Although you will probably take down some

But for Tyranids "some" is easily replacable

Also good luck with Necrons

[hexed orchid]

It's fine, just kill the basic grunts in glorious melee, as the God-Emporer intended

You know, the basic grunts the size of a Tiger

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-cope-warhammer-meme-shut-up-gif-24598622

[raven stone]

“Just stop dying!”

• Average Commissar reacting to above

[fluid wharf]

heya, been wondering for a bit now... I've heard the ogryn say 'Cor' sometimes as an exclamation(or something like that), but does that mean anything? It's a bit hard to find anything about it through searches, assuming that our good ogryn isn't swearing by a daemon prince of nurgle

[hexed orchid]

Cor -> Cor blimey

Br't'sh slang indicating surprise or amazement

[remote widget]

Could a convent of sisters have their own knight household?

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-neck-89-stiff-axis-gif-19377838

[celest dome]

It could be writeable as very close allies

Maybe a Knight household that is extra pious and turned their world into a Cathedral world where some Sister Convent settled

[remote widget]

Ok, but sisters themselves wouldn't be pilots, too close to the machine God I guess?

[late verge]

This piece i think is my favourite depiction of servitors in any media to be honest. I love how the artist looks like they really spent time thinking about the anatomy and how the augmentations would work. The servitor is stripped to the bone so they wouldn't be able to move their limbs but they have a mechanical exoskeleton thingy that acts as artificial musculature. And something about the way they're drawn and so clean and polished makes them look less like an abomination of flesh and wires like most depictions of servitors and more like a decoration you wouldn't give a second thought to if you walked by them

Artist is Elijah ArhPriest on Artstation

[shadow plover]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/8en0Lq

took me one reverse image search

But why does it have eyes

[late verge]

Thank you!

[late verge]

Presumably for decoration

[cinder pivot]

[tough haven]

Big woman…

Or short servitor

[late verge]

Poor guy :( he needs a hug

[rose thorn]

did anyone get anything of note for warhammer stuff in the Amazon prime day sale so far?

Scrolling trying to find stuff atm

[digital glacier]

Where is that helmet from the battle sisters

[storm jungle]

its in their miniature range

[storm jungle]

thats the one yeah

[glossy sonnet]

I love that helmet

[celest dome]

I sort of dislike it since someone posted art of those helmets where the white part were ||panties|| 💀

[queen laurel]

You have to remind me of that

[arctic talon]

concept art of the Radical Centrist of Calaxis

[queen laurel]

bros hair is the greatest gift of the emperor

[vagrant fox]

it has to be his hair right

[storm jungle]

I mean i hope so

[queen laurel]

It would be a banger character design if it's not a wig

[arctic talon]

I hope its both his hair and a whig

he has a whig for his power armor helmet

and then his hair is just like that

[plush mason]

https://fixvx.com/OwlcatGames/status/1942961950297850047

Owlcat Games (@OwlcatGames)

In this concept art from Warhammer 40,000: Dark Heresy, legendary Anton Zerbe is depicted. His plans are unknown to anyone but him, and the menacing aura of authority makes the Lord Inquisitor even more mysterious.

#Warhammer40000
#DarkHeresy https://t.co/1C8ncDA9a0

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 9, 2025, 3:00 PM

so who the fuck is this Anton Zerbe guy?

[vagrant fox]

The single most radical centrist of the Calixis Sector

He's from the Dark Heresy TTRPG

[arctic talon]

The most radical centrist who’s ever lived

He’s a background character for dark heresy

And he’s in charge of the inqusition as a whole in Calaxis

Mostly

He has so much power and authority inqusitors have to listen to him to an extent

[plush mason]

huh

so he is the head of a cabal i take it?

[vagrant fox]

yea

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[vagrant fox]

The tyrant something cabal, something like that

[arctic talon]

I call him a radical centrist because he falls between puritan and radical

But in like the most deranged way possible

[plush mason]

so i guess we will be part of his cabal if not directly part of his personal retinue

[arctic talon]

Likely part of his retinue and then promoted into his cabal

He kind of tolerates a lot

Which is hilarious

[vagrant fox]

iirc he just doesn't want any faction from getting too much power

weird guy

[arctic talon]

Yeah, he does just want stability ultimately

Even if it is uh, a weird way of doing it

[inland cosmos]

So, are the blessings in the game just arbitrary game mechanic to make things more interesting - or it's something taken from actual lore? If it's the latter, then how does it explain the fact that after a techpriest did some weird rituals over my boomstick it suddenly now hits Maniacs harder? I mean, there should be some reasonable explanation, as they are not psykers, so it's not magic, must be something scientifically-plausible then.

[outer wave]

I imagine it's more the former than the latter

[arctic talon]

They are actually upgrading them along with blessing them

weapons used over a long period of time accumulate a "soul" imprint so to speak

which is the machine spirit of the weapon

appeasing and blessing the spirit can empower it further

while I'd assume Hadron is also opening the damn thing up and fixing/upgrading it

within reason

[inland cosmos]

But what kind of upgrade makes a simple assault rifle recognize type of its target, and somehow add a punch to its shots just for it? It's not even about armor types, so not like it uses armor piercing rounds now - Maniacs use different types of armor.

[storm jungle]

It just does.

its still fantasy with a sci-fi coat of paint

[arctic talon]

^

[storm jungle]

its spiritual mumbo jumo

[arctic talon]

The machine spirit has been appeased and will kill better

and the weapons we use in darktide are not new at all

they're pulled off of dead bodies

[storm jungle]

^ yeah pretty much that like, dont question the logistics, its magic lol

[arctic talon]

with a however long service history

I'd like to assume what we're using has a storied history even if we don't know it

the blessings and such are just more care then they'd ever realistically receive outside of the inqusition so the machine spirits are very pleased

[queen laurel]

Don't question how rounds have the ability to hunt for specific enemies in this game in a universe where giant demons are common

[celest dome]

How do Veteran manage to create all those ammo they do for the aura

[arctic talon]

that one is just gameplay lol

now would be funny

the talents in general

the gameplay isn't a 1 to 1 of lore

but there's abstracted stuff

[inland cosmos]

I always thought all this machine-woodoo religion in w40k is just a way to cope with lost knowledge. So like, they don't understand how certain technology works, but they know that's a certain sequence of actions makes it work in a certain way - and it's inscribed into religious texts instead of manuals at that point. But behind all those religious bs there is still pretty mundane technology that bends to laws of physics

[arctic talon]

Its both

[storm jungle]

Its all the answers above. Theres no concrete solution.

[arctic talon]

machine spirits are actually real in some instances

the larger and more complex the machine, the more likely some weird DAOT fragments get mixed in

[storm jungle]

Yeah its a mix. Sometimes its actual nonsense sometimes it actually works.

[arctic talon]

and for long time used weaponry souls imprint on it

and the weapon eventually develops a "machine spirit"

[storm jungle]

Yeah we just dont know what this spirit is

[arctic talon]

machine spirit is such a broad term anyways

it ranges from rudementry AI to like, someones fucking soul thats been shoved into a computer

[queen laurel]

Yeah sometimes somehow you hit the machine real good and suddenly it had all the energy it needed to do that one final thing you needed to do

[inland cosmos]

but there is no computer in a simple boomstick developed to be used by ogryn 😄 It's a simple as a rock

[arctic talon]

yeah thats for bigger things such as a Titan or Imperial Knight

I'm talking about someones soul just imprinting on it

over time

and then when they die and its reissued another persons soul imprints on it

over and over again

[storm jungle]

We dont really know that tho

theres things as simple as longlas sniper rifles that have spirits

ripper guns apply to this too, nothing makes them different

[inland cosmos]

That really seems like something psykers should be dealing with, not "tech priests". Where is the technical part here, I mean? 😄 Can you "oil the spirit"?

[queen laurel]

no but rituals to appease spirits are a thing

[storm jungle]

I mean

it literally has functioning parts

its a working thing lol

[arctic talon]

^

[storm jungle]

what would wizards know of mechanisms

[arctic talon]

They do just fix and repair weapons along with all the tech rituals

those rituals make the spirits happy if there is a spirit present

[storm jungle]

also even the most basic firearm has a lot of functioning parts

[arctic talon]

like using special sacred oil makes it happier then just using normal gun oil

[inland cosmos]

How do they know it?

[arctic talon]

they don't

its just tradition

in universe they do not know about soul imprinting and the like

they just think that everything has a machine spirit

now granted some things do come off the assembly line with a machine spirit, like Land Raiders, ships, titans

ect.

but those seem to be a Semi sapient/non sapient AI

[vagrant fox]

My favourite ritual, technical knock
Soothes the gun right out

[arctic talon]

The mechanicus just assumes everything has a machine spirit when in reality no a lasgun that was made 5 seconds ago does not have a machine spirit

the mechanicus also treats older things better

because the machine spirit within has had a storied history lived a long time ect.

lol

[vagrant fox]

What in tarnation is this

[arctic talon]

There's a chance if the imperium didn't belive in machine spirits people would not unconciously imprint their souls on their weapons

its basically a self fufilling loop now

[queen laurel]

Call of Duty i think

[inland cosmos]

I thought only orcs can turn their fantasies into real things lol

[arctic talon]

No and Orks don't do that either

the warp and soul just

work in that manner

beliefs do impact it

[queen laurel]

They don't bend reality that's a myth

[arctic talon]

if the entirety of a species belives in something it will impact it even if its tiny

Orks have a much stronger version where they "smooth" the wheels of reality

[queen laurel]

their psychic field acts like a psychic duct tape

[arctic talon]

to better work with their bullshit lol

its reality lube

it makes reality work in the Orks favor when it comes to their tech

[queen laurel]

Yeah basically say they can shoot their broken guns a few more times before it just doesn't even work

[arctic talon]

an Ork Shoota is a functional gun, just an absurdly shitty one 99% of the time

[storm jungle]

Black Ops 2 you zoomer

[queen laurel]

That's the reason why their tech is stable

For them

[arctic talon]

if an Ork is firing a shoota it'll work just fine

[queen laurel]

if it's given to a human it becomes much less stable

[arctic talon]

if a human picks it up outside of the Waagh field

the thing is probably going to jam in half a mag

or explode

[queen laurel]

or straight up just not even shoot

[arctic talon]

because it broke in some other manner lol

Higher quality Ork weapons are built better, but the Waagh field further augments them and makes them "better"

gooder

[vagrant fox]

I stopped at blops 1. Back when games were good

[arctic talon]

I.E IF an ork made a gun that never jams and uses the highest quality parts they could find and source

That thing would probably tear through power armor like nothing

[inland cosmos]

But isn't w40k's universe is a continuation of Earth we know today? So what happened exactly for those magical things to appear in it? We don't have them now

[arctic talon]

No

not really

40k

shares a lot of similarities with our IRL timeline

but there's a lot that diverges

like a lot

The Warp does not exist in real life

[storm jungle]

BO2 is also pretty good tho

[arctic talon]

as far as we're aware lol

and neither do psykers, or blanks

which would exist already

in a very limited quantity

[storm jungle]

Yeah like they exist now

but we treat them as we do mystics today

aka crazy stupid people etc

[arctic talon]

if you're an Abrahammic Religon person The Tower of Babal was built with Enuncia

and the Emperor blew it up with his psychic powers

[storm jungle]

my favorite part of christianity lore

[arctic talon]

also he killed everyone present at it

that wasn't on his side

because The Emperor really likes killing people who oppose him

[queen laurel]

he's a good guy by the way

[arctic talon]

No he's not smh

[queen laurel]

i am being sarcastic

If your response is kill someone if they don't agree with you I think you have something wrong in the head

[arctic talon]

anyways 40k cannot be the same as our IRL timeline in terms of continuity

for a lot of reasons

and GW has made it that way since like

fucking 3e lol

[inland cosmos]

okay, that's a lot to digest

[arctic talon]

its a lot yeah

sorry if the way I type is hard to digest

[inland cosmos]

thanks, it's more complicated than I thought

[vagrant fox]

There's a lot and a bunch of it is nebulous and vague. Fun stuff though

[inland cosmos]

it's fine, I'm the one who cannot master English grammar beside using the language for 15 years lol

[arctic talon]

nah I just type really fragmented lol

[queen laurel]

just remember warhammer is just as wide as an ocean

But it's as deep as a puddle

[inland cosmos]

no issue at all, and thanks for the effort explaining it all, to all of you

[queen laurel]

it has a lot of things in it but it doesn't have any depth

[storm jungle]

Yeah go read the lexicanum if you want more condensed lore but feel free to ask here any time

[arctic talon]

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/owlcat-games-talks-to-us-about-about-wh40k-rogue-trader-the-next-game-dark-heresy

for some highlights

"Companions should come rather earlier, than later. There's no easy way to allow 2x2 creature play inside areas not made for it, anything that can be stacked up to infinity definitely will be."

"There will be less length and more width, more reactivity, and more variety of interactions," Anatoly Shestov explains. "Dark Heresy will focus on Calixis, Scintilla, Tyrantine Cabal — we’ve already narrowed down things we want to tell to the point. Internally, we feel it will focus on game narrative and player experience rather than limit us."

"In Rogue Trader, we’ve tried to provide every ideology with its own “right” way to deal with the Koronus, to deal within Koronus. In Dark Heresy, your choices will aim not to express your personal beliefs but rather to save a particular part of Humanity against inevitable horrific doom and despair. Horrific and desperate ways, of course."

"As an Inquisitor, an entirely new investigation system is needed to gather, interpret, and analyze these things, to make conclusions based on the results, and to make a verdict. Even one that doesn’t align with anything being found. And Guncutter. There will be a Guncutter."

"We definitely will continue to push choices and reactivity in every game we create, especially in Dark Heresy. The alignment system, as part of the overall reactivity pillar, will be in place and will work in conjunction with classical inquisitorial ideologies, such as those of radicals or puritans."

[queen laurel]

i can't wait to get an earful by building a team of no humans by including the kroot, ogryn, and eldar

[vagrant fox]

Full istvaanist playthrough

[arctic talon]

Give Zerbe an aneurism playthorugh

[storm jungle]

bruh

I gotta be columbo / smart to solve mysteries?

damn calixis is cooked

I can barely find riddler trophies in arkham games

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/cape-of-new-hope-gif-1875490710420227609

[storm jungle]

My ass @ the planetary governor

[arctic talon]

I'd assume its just gona be a single system tbh

for Dark heresy

but each planet will be beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg

[queen laurel]

oh no

so i have to be smart

Complete opposite of being an ork it is cooked chat it is cooked

[arctic talon]

well

no

you can be stupid and violent

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1085667218584506599/1392555700861010030/SPOILER_517163791_706043508987727_8463106392323940090_n.jpg?ex=686ff60f&is=686ea48f&hm=1b8bb96501e98129ee9e2472f1d897f255916a33129d38f3fc4e76b50b9b21c3&=&format=webp&width=722&height=960

ATTENTION MUNDA FANS

[queen laurel]

Oh yes saw this

[arctic talon]

YOU HAVE BEEN FOUND IN VIOLATION OF HOUSE HELMWAR'S LAW

[queen laurel]

Are these guys like psykers?

[arctic talon]

yes

Sanctioned psykers syphoned off of the guard

for Helmwar's goons

yes this is tithe evasion

[queen laurel]

And they can get away with it how?

[arctic talon]

Helmwar is just that good

[queen laurel]

so you think savant psyker was rocking up to the street looking like this

[arctic talon]

Jokes aside he makes up for that tithe evasion

in other ways

[arctic talon]

no, since Atoma's enforcers don't seem to use sanctioned psykers

[queen laurel]

true

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah they also have like materials weapons and stuff right besides the people

[arctic talon]

yeah

No one is going to miss a few psykers that were meant to be assigned to the Necromundan Spiders

[queen laurel]

wait

what does this mean for the game when an early game faction gets access to psychics

[arctic talon]

wekk

these are likely champion equivelents

I'm assuming they're going to nerf down Palanites

in terms of cost

so they more resemble a normal gang

[queen laurel]

Oh like a super unit?

Like a Wy'tari or something

[arctic talon]

yeah

though Wy'tari are like

stronger then most champs lol

[queen laurel]

hey psychic bug maxing

[winged jacinth]

RE what hadron's doing we're told that grey tier guns are basically broken as well

[arctic talon]

drive by smite

[winged jacinth]

A fully upgraded gun is restored to pristine condition and presumably has some extra mods

She basically goes "its an affront to the omnissiah how shit these guns you're looting are"

Which has its own dissonance with chainsawing apart daemons lol

[arctic talon]

I hate ash waste nomad drivebys

and by drivebys I mean a bug sprinting past me at mach 5

[winged jacinth]

Turns out the imperium didnt need grey knights after all just crackheads willing to magdump a bolter

[winged jacinth]

I read this in a translation recently lol
This information would’ve been helpful much earlier, but I just remembered a documentary that said bears can run up to forty to sixty kilometers per second.

[languid meadow]

You can find videos on YouTube of bears chasing and hunting down wild horses

[winged jacinth]

Walking through the forest
Nice and quiet, senic
Explode as a bear passes at mach 200

[languid meadow]

Horrifying that they can run like that

[queen laurel]

Isn't their entire game plan literally

never fighting you and just brutalizing you

buy sneaky tricks and like hideouts and stuff

[arctic talon]

No

It depends

They can play as a super hordey juve heavy list with sniper champions

Really fast mobile stuff with bugs

Or just as a more “normal” gang

But with worse stuff in some ways and better in others

[queen laurel]

OK so cavalry horde and sneaky?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[queen laurel]

Yeah i've read their books and stuff

a lot of things designed so that they don't take a hit in there

[opaque coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPh2bWFxUz0&list=RDWPh2bWFxUz0&start_radio=1

teto

You cannot “Eto bleh” your way out of medical malpractice charges.

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29kw3FviPGE I raise you up with this

[opaque coyote]

teto pear ollie

teto pear ollie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExyZcgElODw

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FftLImzl1-k

[opaque coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZowC8QXshQ&list=RDZZowC8QXshQ&start_radio=1

[opaque coyote]

throughout this song

I'm actually imagining that one bitchass mindflayer in the level

singing the song

[late verge]

average servitor

[sharp pollen]

no, average worker at administratum

[opaque coyote]

Adminstratum workers are either close to suicide or autistic.

Usually the former

But the latter exists as well

"I LOVE WRITING THINGS ON PARCHMENT."

To be honest, if I was forced into the 40k universe

Working in the Adminstratum would probably be what I'd be doing

I mean it's the safest.

(Well safest in terms of fighting a single Hyena rather than a Tiger)

[idle phoenix]

except if your boss or their boss messes up paperwork, the whole office getting servitorized or killed

[opaque coyote]

Relative.

It would still be better than a Guardsman

At least I would be warned so that I can use the plasma pistol that costed 10 years of my paycheck to melt my brain

[idle phoenix]

rather a quick 16 second death than the slow suicide of bureaucracy. and chances are no warning, some planetary governor doesn't like how billy from accounting spelled his name on an irrelevant trade document

[opaque coyote]

Fair enough.

Though to be fair, this is mainly because I would piss myself if I went into actual battle

I am not suited to be a soldier.

Let alone one in 40k

I would rather have a slow death by bureaucracy

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_N1uEAHk10

[outer wave]

They need to do something with Neru at some point

[queen laurel]

This is why every time someone asked me to be in 40k i will be always orks

I might be a simple guy but at least i will be oblivious to the fact that the universe is absolutely crap

[opaque coyote]

I mean your neurology would probably be focused on battle anyways

[outer wave]

Yeah orks are very focused on the moment rather than long term investment

Or you know

[opaque coyote]

I mean it's either Orks or Eldar

[outer wave]

Long term thinking and all that

[opaque coyote]

Eldar because if your Craftworld doesn't get vaporized by like

Idk a Space Marine chapter being bored

Or a swarm of Tyranids

You'd have a pretty good life.

Paths sound chill

[queen laurel]

Yeah orks for basically the perfect life for this galaxy

If conflict is literally everywhere that's literally what you're made to do anyway

[opaque coyote]

Like the only real problem with being a Craftworld Eldar is the knowledge that

"Nah you're going to hell unless if you don't have protection."

But spending 100 years focusing on whatever you want to pursue?

Sounds great

Like being a master of multiple different types of disciplines sounds fun

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbf Orks have long term thinking

But it's usually to krump more

Like Ghazkgull is a pretty long term thinker

Ambitious as well

Also in that one story where Orks and Humies actually worked together for a bit.

Apparently humans taught the Orks how to play board games, and apparently the Orks followed along and enjoyed it

[outer wave]

Tbf Ghaz is a bit of an exception since he's both an ork thats lived long enough to develop his brain beyond "Beat thing to death and move to the next thing" and claims to hear Gork and Mork in his head

[opaque coyote]

Which is entertaining to think about

Because I'm just imagining an Ork playing Monopoly or something with a human slave

[storm jungle]

Ghaz also gets a lot more lore in the new Grotsnik book

[outer wave]

Ooh that is fun

[storm jungle]

hes like some miniature ork apocalypse on legs

he gets half his face melted off and Da Great Green regenerates him

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-mgr-armstrong-gif-26250693

[opaque coyote]

Ghaz is fun

[outer wave]

What in the world is Da Great Green?

[opaque coyote]

Of course Margaret Thatcher would have a fun time in 40k

[storm jungle]

basically the ork psychic field/the magical shit Gork and Mork allow the orks to do

its literally just the Force but for Orks

[outer wave]

Ah its just the gestalt field

Or an amped up variant of it?

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Great_Green

its a very recent concept made up in the ghazghkull novel

but its a legit thing yeah

[outer wave]

Its like the Grand Blue from One Piece......

[idle phoenix]

i love how Orks make shit happen just from their belief in it happening

[outer wave]

ITS THE ALL BLUE AHH

[outer wave]

Its just enough to allow things to work for them, like their equipment, but yeah its a fun concept

[storm jungle]

^

its reality lube

they dont will stuff into existence

its why meks exist

[outer wave]

Question on that Dilara: if, say, we have a small group of orks that reside on a planet, and a non-mek boy attempts to make a very basic shoota: will that shoota work, assuming that ork is capable of convincing the others it works?

[storm jungle]

It will work but it will be flimsy

[outer wave]

This is one of those "It depends" questions isnt it

[storm jungle]

Mekboys are an example of orks being bio-weapons, they "spawn" from an ork that has the information of mechanics embedded into his mind.

it swhy the more the ork hordes grow the more they get specialists among their ranks

they are a self-sustaining army of monsters

[outer wave]

That implies that specialists can spawn from non-specialist orks like the average boy then?

[storm jungle]

Yeah all orks start as orks

its only as they grow that they subconciously "adopt" to their job

its why for example savage orks snowball from tribal savages to machine gun wielding nutjobs

[outer wave]

I see I see

I assume then that knowledge from one Boy that dies is never passed on through their spores then upon death? Like in that earlier example, the boy that attempts to make a shoota: that knowledge of attempting to make a shoota isn't passed onto a potential mek-spore, but rather already embedded into their genetic code?

[storm jungle]

Yeah another one just takes his place, it isnt passed on, its more in their genome so to speak.

its why orks say shit like

"Damn meks, they are such nerds, who needs the shit they do?"

they always jab other specialists/classes among their ranks

[outer wave]

• The average Snake Bitez

[storm jungle]

like im reading the Grotsnik book right now and a shoota cannot understand why stormboyz attach rockets to their backs and that he himself would never do it lol

[outer wave]

Actually, what happens to Meks in Snake-Bitz klans? Are they exiled, killed, or simply adopt the way of life?

[outer wave]

Interesting

Makes sense, considering how specialists just feel that their specialty speaks to them

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

AHHHHHHHHHHHH-

[storm jungle]

again a lot of these are left open-ended for the sake of homebrew

like if you want meks embedded in your own snake bitz clans, go do that, you dont? Go do that, etc

thats the best part of 40k really

[outer wave]

True, but sometimes I wish we had relatively more concrete answers

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

Its not like lore will stop people from making their own shit

[storm jungle]

beats me

[outer wave]

Anyway, when will we get mutant ork boyz?

I want one with 3 arms

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

Why do you deny my wishes.....

[rocky gale]

3 arms is cool

[outer wave]

Actually now that I think about it: we know that genestealers can affect orks, yeah? But since orks are so resilient in terms of population sizes never going down and always increasing due to their way of reproduction, why do we not see more genestealer-ork hybrids spawn from the death of the initial one?

[outer wave]

True!

Give me an ork with huge chest and little arms

[rocky gale]

One of my first kitbashes was giving one of my Chaos cultists 3 arms

[storm jungle]

Orks sense they are sus and kill them

its almost impossible for them to really spread

AND

Tyranid and Ork spores actually fight on a microscopic level

as confirmed per octarius

[outer wave]

Yes, but unless the youfs are always on top of that as soon as a new one spawns in, how do you control that population?

[outer wave]

Oh right thats a good point

[outer wave]

Based

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, personal theory is that the All Blue is underground

Like an underground ocean

Either that or passages

After all, there needs to be a way for fish to pass into other seas

[outer wave]

Possibly, not a big One Piece guy but I know bits and bobs about it

[opaque coyote]

One Piece has some pretty good worldbuilding

Also just fucking wild

The only thing that's typical is that uh

If there is an eccentric or mysterious part of the city

95% of the time it's usually because of some war crime or tragedy

This town has funky people that dance all the time!

Too bad, these people literally have a disease that forces them to be funky and dance all the time.

They will die in 15 days

[opaque coyote]

Well that and the consistency

A random detail will be brought up again like

200 chapters later

[outer wave]

I agree! Im not a fan of One Piece as a whole, but I love its world building bits

[opaque coyote]

I like One Piece

But I swear the only reason why I got into it was because of Quarantine

I also cried like a little bitch at times

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057186174696951890/1327374528048795743/life.gif

Seriously though, the show knows how to punch somebody's heart

Genuinely for such a goofy looking show. You'd never expect the sudden war crimes

[misty vector]

Cant forgive how they changed chef zeffs’ and sanji’s backstory in the anime though

[opaque coyote]

Fair

Manga is better (tm)

Tbf it makes more sense logically

Since cutting off your own leg to eat it will most likely just kill you

And also take up more energy

But Zeff eating his own leg is more impactful emotionally

[misty vector]

Yeah its a more deliberate and meaningful action

[opaque coyote]

Idk why the anime is less gory than the manga

Like Whitebeard is another example

Mf got a gigantic hole in his head in the manga

And yet was still kicking for a while

[arctic talon]

censorship differences

next question

what you can get away with in manga is much more gorey/graphic

then anime

also what Studios find palletable to even work with

also sometimes things are changed to be more popular/be more enjoyable for the average person

since Anime tends to have a broader audiance

[opaque coyote]

fair enough

but also kinda stupid

If you're animating the source material accurately, keep the stuff lmao

[late osprey]

somewhat related to EW's answer, a lot of animes are made in teams, it's hard to get a lot of people to all agree on animating something they find utterly reprehensible even when you pay them

meanwhile manga industry culture IIRC is such that most mangas are literally made entirely by 1 person

so they can just do whatever they want

[arctic talon]

Its usually 1 artist, 1-3 assistants and an editor

I just want to see this panel from chainsaw man animated before I die lol

in terms of adaptations

[glossy sonnet]

I want a proper berserk adaptation

Not the shit we got after the original

[arctic talon]

I've given up on wanting an adaptation after a bad adaptation happens

because stuff just loses popularity

lol

[opaque coyote]

Fair

Still though god damn do I wish I saw Whitebeard with that fucking hole through his head

Man literally took like 15 cannonball shots and still kept on trucking

along with hundreds of bullets

sword slashes

etc.

And he died standing, with his back uninjured because he never ran.

And also he was terminally ill and about to die anyways

[storm jungle]

the fuck am I looking at here

also least horrific chaos ritual

[arctic talon]

The darkness devil taunting everyone present about the 11 astronauts who died in the cold black void of space lol

[storm jungle]

what

who

[arctic talon]

which happened in Chainsaw man, all the irl space accidents regarding space travel with re-entry

had them die in orbit

[storm jungle]

what

[languid meadow]

I know it's from CSM but I keep thinking of Hellstar Remina when I look at it

[arctic talon]

rather then in re-entry or other incidents

[storm jungle]

Uh

I understood none of that

ill go read the wiki

[arctic talon]

The Darkness devil represents humans primordeal fear of darkness

[languid meadow]

I love how goofy CSM is sometimes, like you have the literal fear of the dark then just...

gun

peak

[arctic talon]

it tears everyones arms off like 4 panels later

which is also some great symbolism

because you use your arms to feel around in the dark when you can't see shit

[arctic talon]

there's also a tank devil that the Mexicans had

lol

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, would've been fitting to tear off their eyes more

Because y'know

[late osprey]

being reductive, but id think a monster that tears your arms off is already terrifying enough

or your eyes

[opaque coyote]

All you could see is the dark

[arctic talon]

they already can't see

in the dark

there is nothing to see it is darkness

[storm jungle]

the fuck is this nonsense

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910400427277828147/1353491142833995787/image0.gif

[arctic talon]

wdym nonsense smh

[storm jungle]

god I hate chainsaw man

[arctic talon]

why

lol

[storm jungle]

idk i just do

you got a problem with that?

[arctic talon]

okay fair enough

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

I just wanted a reason

smh

LOL

[storm jungle]

that was easy

[arctic talon]

I just find people hating things for no reason weird ig

lol

[languid meadow]

That's my experience when looking at twitter about things I enjoy

"I hate this thing so much I hope you die"

[arctic talon]

anyways here's the actual design of it rather then just its creepy sillouete

[storm jungle]

I wish chaos had cool designs like this, zamn

[languid meadow]

Vashtorr is the only chaos design I really enjoy

[arctic talon]

I find a lot of the devil designs in chainsaw man very cool

aside from the hot men/women devils but those are also neat ig

[languid meadow]

peak I love him so much

but he got memed so hard I'm embarrassed to like him

[arctic talon]

I do like the reasoning that the friendlier devils try to be with humans the more human they appear

[arctic talon]

ngl I'm so annoyed his mini doesn't have the mouth like vox grill face

[sly ivy]

I got a problem w it

wtf is chainsaw man

[storm jungle]

If you cant take the heat, get outta the kitchen

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1027716679817502781.webp

[opaque coyote]

I mean Makima's design is simple but also slightly terrifying

Must be the blank ass stare

[arctic talon]

its just her creepy eyes

lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

Also her complete psychopathy

[languid meadow]

It's creepy because it's real

[arctic talon]

I prefer the composition of the train scene in the manga

[opaque coyote]

Given that she's the control devil. It makes sense that she's one of the more human ones

[arctic talon]

because its the first time you see her not smile

she's always smiling constantly

up until this panel lol

In fact there's only a total of 4 panels in the entire manga where she isn't smiling

[opaque coyote]

How do I say this

I like the Chaos Aesthetic

But the designs kinda are a mixed bag

I think shit like Chaos Spawns are cool primarily because it gives the artists a chance to go

Wild

Human bodies so fucked up that even the Marker raised it's eyebrows

On a unrelated note

Ever wonder why UI being implemented into the game world isn't done more often

Like Dead Space is the only example I know of that like

Makes the UI fully diagetic.

[languid meadow]

I think Total Wars Cspawn designs are the best

[opaque coyote]

Yeah this shit is why I like Chaos

It's well

Chaotic

Gross

Etc.

There is so much opportunity for designs and concepts that just don't get explored

[languid meadow]

yeah I don't mind VT and Darktides Cspawn but like total wars is so good

[opaque coyote]

This sentiment has definitely been repeated

But I wish for minor Chaos Entities to be more varied and important

[languid meadow]

I love the random legs and tentacles coming out the back

[opaque coyote]

More opportunity for different and unique designs and themes

[storm jungle]

you gotta respect it

especially when ummm

you look at the tabletop chaos spawn

which is like from 1942

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I like a couple of designs but they're definitely limited by the fact that

If a fully freaky Chaos Spawn design exists

It'd probably be closer to titans in terms of pricing

[languid meadow]

holy shit is this real

no way

[opaque coyote]

Due to the amount of detail

[storm jungle]

unfortunately

lmao

god the front one is SO bad

[opaque coyote]

Bro looks like he's bored

[languid meadow]

OUT OF STOCK???

WHO'S BUYING THESE

[storm jungle]

Desperate people

Degenerates

Renegades

[opaque coyote]

I don't think the left one is bad

Just kinda generic

The front one looks less like it's a tortured monster

And more like

sigh "Another day at work"

Also the mouth looks like a sphincter

With teeth

How do you get the short end of the straw as a Chaos Spawn?

[rose thorn]

Every chaos points update they are uber under point costed and ppl spam them

[languid meadow]

the one on the right looks like an adventure time design ngl

[arctic talon]

GW just isn't making them

lol

[sacred ginkgo]

Its interesting how much better they look after so long purely because the painters at GW got really good

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Adventure Time has made wackier designs

Margles Robot

[arctic talon]

Me watching my opponent drop chaos spawn enmass in AoS or 40k

[languid meadow]

It looks like Marcis dad

my brain defaults to this everytime I see it

[opaque coyote]

Where the fuck does this one come from

[arctic talon]

kitbash

lol

I see the empire captain body

[opaque coyote]

Dang

It does look kinda freaky though

Like mid transformation vibes

[sacred ginkgo]

More non meatball chaos spawn designs would be nice

17 different limbs spider would be neat

[opaque coyote]

There's also this guy

Why does the bottom head look bored

What's with Chaos Spawn designs and looking bored

mfw

This should an emote

[sly ivy]

Thas just me bruv

[opaque coyote]

Hold on lemme just

[sly ivy]

Not the sad eyes butthole

[languid meadow]

Written like an ancient poem

[sharp pollen]

hear me out...

[sly ivy]

Sad eyes bruhtthole

[sharp pollen]

yeah

[sly ivy]

ya it hot boys

[languid meadow]

it was hot af with no wind here for a couple days and now it's just rain

[young pecan]

Tbf, choosing to be a heretic and even the chaos gods giving you the short end of the stick

I would be pretty bored and miserable too

[simple sparrow]

Would an Ogryn realistically be able to work as an enforcer

In a hive city

[arctic talon]

as muscle yes

for knocking doors

[storm jungle]

^

Enforcers are corrupt rent-a-cops

if they can get the jurisdiction for ogryns they can

and well like, darktide cosmetics get approved by GW

So its more or less confirmed lol

[nocturne crest]

So which imperial sub faction is there left that haven't gotten Darktide cosmetics yet?

[arctic talon]

for guard? a ton

for actual imperial subfactions?

also a ton lol

but I doubt all of them will get it

[nocturne crest]

Any you can of think that you want?

[languid meadow]

scions

like actual scion stuff

and not the weird ones we have

[arctic talon]

Tempestus Scions
Navy Breachers
Athonian Tunnelrats

[late osprey]

don't forget the Attilan Rough Riders

[arctic talon]

well I don't want Attilans personally

but they're cool

[nocturne crest]

Would the Miasman Redcowls be viable?

[late osprey]

or the Darkstorm Fusiliers

[arctic talon]

why wouldn't they?

they're dudes in red cowls

with edgy hoods

[nocturne crest]

I thought the robes would be an issue to model.

[late osprey]

aren't robes like 50% of all the cosmetics?

[languid meadow]

not really

a lot of them are hooked up to stop clipping

but it seems that fatshark has stopped caring about that with the new arbites/inquisition gear

so we might finally get full coats/robes

[nocturne crest]

Is there a model of a robed Orygn?

[arctic talon]

In Darktide yes

In 40k no

[languid meadow]

Greater coat

[dapper gyro]

Have no chance to ask for extra rations...

[nocturne crest]

Okay, the Miasman Redcowls should be very viable.

[languid meadow]

the only limiting factor is og but that hasn't stopped fatshark/GW

also I'm assuming the newer classes will not be added to the superspecialsets™ since arbites wasn't

[opaque coyote]

What jurisdiction do the enforcers have

On paper

[storm jungle]

Basic cop stuff

the higher it goes up the hive the less jurisdiction they usually get

[opaque coyote]

I'm assuming because it's 40k. This also includes the "shoot anybody that puts up a slight amount of resistance... Oh and also the dog because fuck you"

[storm jungle]

basically look at what american cops do today, make it even more fascistic than it already is and thats kind of a nice summary, especially these last few years lol

[opaque coyote]

Got it

So ICE but not targeting just random "immigrants"

[storm jungle]

Bribery, mass-killings, corruption, coverups, breaking up riots, civillian suppression, etc

[storm jungle]

yeah honestly pretty apt

literally going after everyone

[languid meadow]

40k is russia????

[storm jungle]

Russia rn uses some actual imperial tier tactics so idk LMAO

[languid meadow]

THE CUBE

[opaque coyote]

The planet governor is usually the ones that make them right?

Like similar to the PDF

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are on the same vein

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Enforcer_(Security_Force)

[opaque coyote]

That means that theoretically there could be decent enforcers

But also

It's 40k

[storm jungle]

Yeah there is but again

[opaque coyote]

[storm jungle]

if you are decent

just like regular corrupt police forces IRL

you wont last long lol

[opaque coyote]

Honestly would be an interesting story

[storm jungle]

read Crime

[opaque coyote]

Read? In my 40k lore channel??

[storm jungle]

yeet

but it has a shit ton of Enforcer stuff

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/madilyn-no-madilyn-madilyn-hands-madfam-jimbosliceoflife-gif-7076915685806240884

Well

Reversed

In this case

[storm jungle]

🫡

[opaque coyote]

But yeah I'll read it

[languid meadow]

this shit should be pinned in here

and just link to it any time someone comes in here to boast and be confidently wrong

[nocturne crest]

100%

[storm jungle]

Its fucked up ngl

bombing people on their side trying to surrender, tying people to posts so that snipers shoot them as bait, etc

its grim as fuck

also mass penal battallions lol

[nocturne crest]

Hell, they even got priests blessing weapons during the Ukrainian-Russo War.

[languid meadow]

seeing videos of NKs in Ukraine is depressing, like they're still using Korean war tactics

[nocturne crest]

Yep.

[opaque coyote]

I remember seeing a NK being shocked at a drone charging towards them.

Tbf, I think anybody would be shocked. But I can't help but think

Is it their first time seeing one

Did they even know we use them now?

[nocturne crest]

Potentially.

[storm jungle]

Very likely

[languid meadow]

I mean the instant they gained access to the internet a lot of them got porn addictions

[storm jungle]

remember they live in a country basically shut off from the outside world

[languid meadow]

which is both hilarious and depressing

[storm jungle]

theres a video where some ukranians are asking the NK troops do they have any idea where they are and they just shake their head lol

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

Imagine going from

Severe repression to instant access to every degenerate thing you can see

[rose thorn]

ajahhabhaygbhHAYGUAHBN

[opaque coyote]

Like you go from 0

To 10000

[nocturne crest]

From what I've heard, they had to do a les miserable sequence to re-float a ship.

[languid meadow]

seeing videos and stuff from NK and it's like the place is a weird mix of the 50s to 90s

[opaque coyote]

More importantly do y'all think that Ukraine or Russia would win?

[late osprey]

Silence, warhammer fan.

A 1d4chan lurker is talking.

[nocturne crest]

Sadly, I don't think anyone is winning it.

[raven stone]

Forever war

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's my current observation.

[nocturne crest]

Europe isn't pulling their shit together to help Ukraine, China is selling drones to Russia.

[storm jungle]

The most realistic/likely outcome is Russia will win if Ukraine runs out of bodies which they currently are now slowly.

From there it will be a russian occupation that will get beaten back in subsequent years by partisans/rebels as the russians just go back to their country, it has happened repeatedly with each of their invasions.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah this entire thing seems like an

[storm jungle]

The only time they have ever won is against small countries like Chechnya or Crimea where no one helped the populace.

[opaque coyote]

Absolute waste

Geopolitically

[storm jungle]

Yep again, literal imperium tactics

[opaque coyote]

Economically

Etc.

[late osprey]

The old methods for occupation just don't really work with modern technology anymore when the populace has access to it

[nocturne crest]

Hell, it's been theorised that Russia is going to economically collapse the minute they win, because of how they've forced the civilian industry to into Military.

[late osprey]

It's laughably easy to coordinate over the internet compared to before it

[languid meadow]

now I don't wanna generalize but the only way russia backs out of the war is when their people get really angry at it. But here's the thing, main population centers are fine with the war mostly since they're not as affected.

yeah 100% russia is gonna be fucked after the war

[late osprey]

Also the part of the Russian populace that's politically active in any respect is completely brainwashed

[opaque coyote]

Russia's economy is also basically fucked now.

I remember a picture of the mother of a dead Russian soldier literally only getting a fucking kitchen appliance from the government.

Not even a stipend.

"Here you go ma'am, have a fucking microwave for your dead son."

[storm jungle]

We can simply watch and wait, people said this war would be over in 2 weeks before the complete lie/farce of the russian military was put on full display.

[late osprey]

Anyone who would get upset about it has completely checked out of politics over there

[arctic talon]

3 day long special militar operation

[nocturne crest]

Hell, they're rehabilitating Stalin now.

[storm jungle]

Ive watched videos of like

russian soldiers shooting themselves in teh head with their AK in bomb craters knowing drones would get them

its fucking bleak

[raven stone]

I mean to flip the joke on the head, Russia is taking far longer than 2 weeks to collapse from this…

[languid meadow]

but a lot of their conscripts are from poor regions/ethnic minorites/prisoners. These aren't Russians from Moscow, Saints Petersburg, and Volgograd.

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I thought similar but closer to like 3 months.

[late osprey]

Completely genuine >95% approval ratings for Putin

Not even joking

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats what happens when your opposition just dies

at this point its a joke in russia

[arctic talon]

people also want the soviet union days back

which is

[storm jungle]

the populace knows he will always "win"

[opaque coyote]

Magically (tm)

[arctic talon]

I mean I guess some people lived a better life under it

actually

even then lol

[late osprey]

And the media blitz that has convinced the boomers that he's basically the God-Emperor Warrior-King.

[nocturne crest]

So people want East Germany back?

[arctic talon]

No

Soviet like

nostalgia is

weird

[languid meadow]

In reality a lot of normal Russians got "richer" due to the war. Now granted this wont last if the war ends since their economy is prob gonna tank hard.

[late osprey]

What we considered memes about Putin are pushed completely unironically in their media

[arctic talon]

Soviet Nostalgias big thing is like

[raven stone]

Weirdly true to some extent…compared to the abusive oligarchs they have now…
Russia’s transition post Cold War was especially fucked up,

[languid meadow]

but a lot of them are ok with it since it doesn't affect them

[arctic talon]

the "good old days"

the same way like irl

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah it was totally fucked

Russia's everything basicially got pulled apart piecemeal

[opaque coyote]

There are some accounts of people being depressed after East Germany combined with West now that they couldn't find work in a much more competitive economy.

Which is interesting but also

God damn can Nostalgia really turn up the rose tint

[raven stone]

China most certainly took lessons from them (Russia) for sure.

[arctic talon]

Dengism moment

China also didn't implode politically

is the big thing lol

unless you count the cultural revolution

and the subsequent kneecapping of Mao within the CCP

[opaque coyote]

Yet anyways

I think it did almost happen twice for the CCP

[arctic talon]

Oh its almost happened several times

with the CCP lol

[late osprey]

If there's one lesson to take, it's creating economic anarchy zones will save your country.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but never completely

[arctic talon]

Why do you think the CCP of today has way less political cliques

[opaque coyote]

Tbf one was with Falun Gong.

God knows I would not want a government with their rule.

[raven stone]

The weird thing is CCP is a party based cult, not a personal cult.
So even if one guy dies off…the whole thing doesn’t collapse.