a lot of these questions can just be answered with common sense too tbh
#40k-lore-chat
radiant lance
queen laurel
Oh no this human door is preventing me from proceeding because it does not fit my height whatever will I do
punches through the wall or straight up use an explosive that they happen to be carrying
radiant lance
what do you think soldiers do IRL when they cant enter a building lol
there is now no longer a building
storm jungle
*there is now no longer a building*
unless theres something important inside... 
raven stone
Also this is 40k.
Overly pious Marines can probably pray a door into existence, like Sisters of Battle (Yes calling back to a joke I made here long ago)
celest dome
There is an excerpt where some SM fall through some stairs 
crystal forum
the classic joke we all remember
radiant lance
It's amazing how the 40k has giant walkers and they don't have to consider if the ground supports them or not
sour hornet
There is an excerpt where some SM fall through some stairs <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771...
Terminator IIRC
radiant lance
Because a literal cathedral putting all their pressure on two feet is not good for ground stability
raven stone
Magic space concrete material
radiant lance
It's not even like they're on developed land/concrete
They're just out in the wild battling
storm jungle
It's amazing how the 40k has giant walkers and they don't have to consider if th...
Theres a book excerpt where a terminator falls through an entire building due to him being so heavy lol
raven stone
I mean, let's be honest, Imperial tech could be far ahead and advanced from ours in many mundane, non-battlefield related manners
radiant lance
So you should consider if the ground can support this weight
sour hornet
what do you think soldiers do IRL when they cant enter a building lol
Normal soldiers don't weigh 500+ KG
radiant lance
Theres a book excerpt where a terminator falls through an entire building due to...
Oh I'm talking about titans
storm jungle
Oh I'm talking about titans
thats the same with titans
crystal forum
rockcrete 
sour hornet
As a tanker, when we encounter shit were too small for, we just go around or make our own.
Bridges, passageways, etc
radiant lance
Like walkers suck IRL for a lot of reasons
Including ridiculous pressure on the ground since you're concentrating all the weight on two points
raven stone
Theres a book excerpt where a terminator falls through an entire building due to...
A bit weird it happens, considering how they are supposed to he super soldiers, you would think they have thought of this possibility...
...then again, could be showcasing how out of depth brainwashed Marines are (but I am not counting in this particular story being THAT smart)
storm jungle
Walkers are also a dumb combat concept for many reasons
storm jungle
A bit weird it happens, considering how they are supposed to he super soldiers, ...
Well no, theres no uniformity in imperial architecture minus gothic vibes
sour hornet
Walkers have aura tanks dont though
storm jungle
Walkers have aura tanks dont though
idk about that
an abhrams looks cooler to me than most walkers do lmao
radiant lance
Well no, theres no uniformity in imperial architecture minus gothic vibes
bans load bearing walls
raven stone
an abhrams looks cooler to me than most walkers do lmao
I mean, Marine tanks in general look cooler than their Dreads.
sour hornet
https://tenor.com/view/goldy-%D7%92%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%93%D7%99-%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%A0%D...
This shit is so scary lmao
storm jungle
I mean, Marine tanks in general look cooler than their Dreads.
well yeah they are based on that one american vietnam-era APC
it just has a turret ontop of it
raven stone
I still drooling over the new Fellblade
radiant lance
My favourite sci Fi theme is the Halo franchise
It seems actually plausible in design and not the ridiculous bullshit of pauldrons larger than your head
storm jungle
My favourite sci Fi theme is the Halo franchise
It seems actually plausible in ...
the lore for the weapons/equipment is also legit really good, you can tell they did their research
sour hornet
This shit is so scary lmao
you can't see a fucking thing and are drifting your $8,000,000 dollar vehicle in an unknown direction
radiant lance
There are some egregious issues like how the scorpion tank design is just nonsensical
raven stone
well yeah they are based on that one american vietnam-era APC
The 40k era Predator is a Bradley IFV.
The 30k era Predator has a T35(?) Turret design
Both are cool.
sour hornet
There are some egregious issues like how the scorpion tank design is just nonsen...
Its so dogshit
baneblades at least have aura
raven stone
you can't see a fucking thing and are drifting your $8,000,000 dollar vehicle in...
Wait until you hear about that one Abrahams that smacked its' turret into a bridge pillar during Operation Iraqi Freedom...
near wasp
Oof
raven stone
Yep, turret was spinning around like a fun top, wrecked and unable to fire.
Crew tossed around like pinball inside.
Sonehow they still made it out alive lol
near wasp
Horrifying
raven stone
Horrifying yet also fascinating indeed
dapper gyro
My favourite sci Fi theme is the Halo franchise
It seems actually plausible in ...
Except for the thing of power armour tanking 50mm auto cannon in one of the old books.
sour hornet
Wait until you hear about that one Abrahams that smacked its' turret into a brid...
One of those things you'd get crucified for in peacetime, but get a pass for in wartime.
radiant lance
Spartana definitely got power crept to ridiculous levels in Halo tbh
sour hornet
My favourite sci Fi theme is the Halo franchise
It seems actually plausible in ...
I just like Spartans and Mjolnir more than Astartes and their armor.
dapper gyro
People always take that as the standard for Spartan armour durability... Despite the shield going down by 7.62x51 rifles all the time in the rest of the books.
raven stone
One of those things you'd get crucified for in peacetime, but get a pass for in ...
Pretty much, it happened under a relatively intense combat situation when the convoy was rolling through Baghdad (I think), or definitely a hostile town.
sour hornet
they're more interesting to travel along with
dapper gyro
Generally, spartans are believable in terms of being superhuman.
sour hornet
People always take that as the standard for Spartan armour durability... Despite...
It is actually somewhat rare for Spartans to be shot at by physical ammunition in most of the books, and when they do, it is very often described as 'bouncing off'.
dapper gyro
Even the armour lore, most of the plating is to house and protect the energy shield generator. The actual powered parts is the lower suit.
sour hornet
It is Sangheili shields that are described as failing in a couple shots. See First Strike, Ghosts of Onyx, Fall of Reach, and The Flood.
dapper gyro
It is actually somewhat rare for Spartans to be shot at by physical ammunition i...
Insl see the opposite, they also avoid taking damage at all cost.
sour hornet
Even the armour lore, most of the plating is to house and protect the energy sh...
Well, not most of it. The fusion pack is in the back of the suit, on the upper spine. Most of the armor serves, as... well, just armor. You only see a divergence in GEN2 Mjolnir, when most capacity was transferred to the bodyglove. GEN1 and GEN3 both have back-mounted fusion packs with traditional armor distribution.
dapper gyro
Especially when they don't have the shield. I think it is in some books about resurgency.
sour hornet
Post-war you do have instances of Spartans fighting Insurrectionists again, but most of them are Spartan-IIIs in SPI, which is 100% vulnerable to human caliber weaponry.
dapper gyro
Well, not most of it. The fusion pack is in the back of the suit, on the upper s...
I recall that description started around H2/H3 with the Mk6 thing. Yes, the power pack is in the hard armour housing, the same as gen2.
The "powered" as in physical enhancement is with the under suit.
shadow plover
This shit is so scary lmao
It's also very fun
sour hornet
The "powered" as in physical enhancement is with the under suit.
Those are known as force-amplifiers, and to state that the armor is there to protect it is somewhat misleading, as hydrostatic gel layer, and crystalline AI matrix—which is what gives the armor its billion-dollar price-tag—are also protected by hard armor.
The armor is there to protect all those bits.
raven stone
@sour hornet found the vid.
The link starts at the point immediately leading up to the spinning turret.
dapper gyro
Those are known as force-amplifiers, and to state that the armor is there to pro...
To protect and house it. Of course it would protect the user, who is under all of those as well.
Because otherwise, you can leave the shield nodes exposed, and it dramatically reduces the durability of the armour even with the shield active.
sly ivy
It was an inspired choice to have a real hard sci-fi author (Greg Bear) write novels for it.
dapper gyro
Spartan shield is not on at all times.
sour hornet
Because otherwise, you can leave the shield nodes exposed, and it dramatically r...
My point is there are thing in the armor isn't there to protect any one bit, it's part of a full envelope.
sour hornet
Spartan shield is not on at all times.
On any field deployment it is on at all times unless damaged or the suit is incomplete.
Eg. you take the helmet or gloves off.
sly ivy
I think honestly Halo has been bleeding out since the slow departure of the old Bungie story team, but I hope it gets a second or third wind.
sour hornet
Yes basically
because of 343
343 is very noncommital with its narrative ideas more than GW
sly ivy
The bones are good.
sour hornet
the 343 era books especially Kelly Gay are very good, but the games have always been mid bc of it
sly ivy
Sometimes it takes just one or two inspired people to turn something around that has strong foundations.
sour hornet
Agreed
storm jungle
I think honestly Halo has been bleeding out since the slow departure of the old ...
"bleeding out"
its literally a corpse in an alleyway
lmao
shadow plover
Nah Infinite is great 
sly ivy
its literally a corpse in an alleyway
I’m tryin 2 b nice Dilara I kno that’s a shock
queen laurel
I’m tryin 2 b nice Dilara I kno that’s a shock
Well you may as well be honest because you trying to be nice is the equivalent of an ork gladly surrendering to the imperium for experimentation
sly ivy
I really really hope nu Marathon doesn’t fail hard but it looks like it will
Why did they make it a hero shooter
sly ivy
Well you may as well be honest because you trying to be nice is the equivalent o...
I thought I heard some trash falling out of a chute just now but it must have been the wind
storm jungle
skyrim NPC ahh reply 😭
queen laurel
I thought I heard some trash falling out of a chute just now but it must have be...
aight skyrim bandit slow down
sly ivy
skyrim NPC ahh reply 😭
Let me guess — someone stole ur sweetroll?
storm jungle
Let me guess — someone stole ur sweetroll?
yeet
near wasp
I want a sweet roll now
sly ivy
aight skyrim bandit slow down
Boy that game was a perfect storm. Honestly I think the Nordic setting is just compelling in some deep way.
Also dragon combat was great for the time.
humble shoal
Let me guess — someone stole ur sweetroll?
I bet you havent been to the sky district
sly ivy
I bet you havent been to the sky district
Most settings can be compelling but the…
Oh noooo not that one
shadow plover
Skyrim was so fucking ass, it's mad it took off like it did
humble shoal
Most settings can be compelling but the…
Oh noooo not that one
Those mercenaries from hammerfell, they have looojg curved....
vagrant fox
Kill all dragons kill all dragons every lizard is a shit in my cut
sly ivy
Skyrim was so fucking ass, it's mad it took off like it did
The thing was it was but somehow I sank hundreds of hours into it
shadow plover
I couldn't bother for more than three
queen laurel
Skyrim was so fucking ass, it's mad it took off like it did
it has the bones of a good game but that's just bethesda
shadow plover
not even that really
queen laurel
they have the bones but they don't really put work on the flesh
rocky gale
People don't like to admit it but Skryim is the Big Bang Theory of games, if you dig down and examine it, it's just awful but we've still all spent hours watching/playing it
shadow plover
if the skeleton didn't have any hands or legs then maybe
queen laurel
if the skeleton didn't have any hands or legs then maybe
Yeah basically Skyrim is a recovered body and you as a mad scientist use mods to basically replace bones and flesh to make it somehow like a good game
sly ivy
they have the bones but they don't really put work on the flesh
The overall look of the world — the clouds, the mountains. Pretty great.
queen laurel
The overall look of the world — the clouds, the mountains. Pretty great.
Oh the world is great but the other things no
near wasp
I've poured hundreds of hours in vanilla Skyrim so I do not understand this
sly ivy
Yeah.
shadow plover
Bazinga
queen laurel
Unarmed combat is practically nonexistent
The other games have it why the **** does this one not have it
near wasp
I mean you can still make unarmed one tap people
Just need some gloves and a heavy armor perk
queen laurel
Just need some gloves and a heavy armor perk
yeah but it doesn't scale well
i'm talking punching a dragon here and not dying
dapper gyro
Halo 6 is good, but some fucking people at the helm of 343 decided that it was not good enough and cancelled the DLCs.
humble shoal
I've poured hundreds of hours in vanilla Skyrim so I do not understand this
I stopped playing after they broke my mods that had basically implemented dawnguard
sly ivy
Halo 6 is good, but some fucking people at the helm of 343 decided that it was n...
Didn’t they deactivate friendly fire by default? This offends my Helldivers-loving soul
humble shoal
Crossbow mod, extra arrows mod, vampire transformation
dapper gyro
Like, we know that the game will end at a clip hanger, because you said that it is the start of a new story...
So of course like 20-30% of the people will wait for it to be completed first.
Most of the games back in the day didn't have expectation of having a sequel, so people are more engaged with fomo.
near wasp
I stopped playing after they broke my mods that had basically implemented dawngu...
I've mostly played after anniversary edition and I've done a lot of survival mode
late verge
I'm losing my fucking mind why is the pronunciation of "guilliman" so inconsistent even among official media
I've heard it pronounced "ghouly-man" "gwilla-man" "gill-a-man" and "goaly-man"
All from official sources
digital glacier
Because GW
does
not
CARE
late verge
Is this why people make fun of his name like benedict cumberbatch
digital glacier
Yes
storm jungle
Yes
digital glacier
Well back in the day, you didn't even have media where his name would ever be mentionned
Because he used to be a background character, and not active
storm jungle
I'm losing my fucking mind why is the pronunciation of "guilliman" so inconsiste...
gill-a-man and ghouly-man are the most repeated and "correct" ones, just stick to those.
digital glacier
Hence why people were confused as to what the canon pronounciation was supposed to be, and thus the memes
And now, we can officially confirm that all pronunciations are canon
late verge
Robert Guillotine
near wasp
Dont insult rogar gillsham
digital glacier
Also, fun fact, his name is basically an attempt to improvise a name that sounded like a Haitian Revolutionary
I am not joking
late verge
Why
outer wave
gill-a-man and ghouly-man are the most repeated and "correct" ones, just stick t...
Ive personally heard "Gweelly-Man" which is an interesting way to proununce his name
late verge
Ive personally heard "Gweelly-Man" which is an interesting way to proununce his ...
Its more accurate than "ghouly-man" tbh
Just ignoring the i for no reason
late verge
I'm gonna pronounce it "autistic" from now on
crimson grove
Am I the only one thinking the infrno event is a continuity of the Admonition / Moebian 6th strain relationship ?
There is no admonistion during the event and burning everything would remove Nurgle's taint, whicch would angert the admonition
sour hornet
I can't make it to the inquisitorial meet-up
I am in the hospital after partying with the planetary governer
slaaneshi daemonette dropped that ass on me at an agregarious angle
storm jungle
There is no admonistion during the event and burning everything would remove Nur...
thats a popular theory rn but we dont have much basis for it
aside from the stuff you pointed out which isnt outright said
crimson grove
Morrow
sour hornet
He says, "It looks like the locals have taken it (clensing) into their own hands" in multiple variations
whenever you start an inferno mission
crimson grove
I think it refers to the Zelaot mentionned in the event topic
digital glacier
Yeah, he's talking about Imperial loyalists
crimson grove
But we do see many scab flamer being very trigger happy even without the player in sight sooo
dapper gyro
Inferno missions are mostly in the lower levels of the hive.
crimson grove
either they are really just vibing, enjoying the moment or they are the one doing the cleansing and Morrow info are not right
dapper gyro
Though, like most minor events, they have some line that's ultimately just "what if".
crimson grove
Inferno missions are mostly in the lower levels of the hive.
I do wonder if we ever truly went to the lowest level 
like the putrscent hab are mid level
dapper gyro
Like the extra orgryn enemies, the Beast of Nugles event and a few others.
Canonically, the only monstrosity that we encountered is from the Dark Communion mission.
nocturne crest
Would Vashtorr turning up during the HH make any difference to the setting?
celest dome
Pretty much none
digital glacier
Who says he wasn't there?
celest dome
Except maybe cementing his position into the Dark Mechanicum
celest dome
Who says he wasn't there?
Well, seeing the properties of Daemons, he was
arctic talon
Would Vashtorr turning up during the HH make any difference to the setting?
no, hell he probably was involved in a minor manner providing Daemon engines to the daemons of the ruinstorm
celest dome
What are they doing though 
sly ivy
Vashtorr is the man behind you
🫡
digital glacier
L O O K O U T
sly ivy
🙈
storm jungle
god
arctic talon
What are they doing though <:uwugryn:1062882479310110720>
Trying to sell you a daemon engine for 45% APR
storm jungle
when he starts narrating Book 1's opening while reading Book 2 i was busting a gut laughing, so fucking goofy lmao
storm jungle
arctic talon
It’s called “THE END AND THE DEATH”
arctic talon
Also it used to be called something different
They fucking changed it
When siege of terra came out
storm jungle
LMFAO
arctic talon
💀
digital glacier
Samus is an Abnett Character so he is earned the utmost respect even bigger than your own family!
arctic talon
It was called lord of the ruinstorm originally
storm jungle
"I AM THE END AND THE DEATH"
Yeah the end and the death of my fucking patience and sanity.
storm jungle
Samus is an Abnett Character so he is earned the utmost respect even bigger than...
hes definitely beside us
storm jungle
How many times it’s said
so only issue
sometimes they say
"the death and the end"
to mix it up lmao
sly ivy
John Grammaticus is the man inside you
storm jungle
I hope not.
sly ivy
I like when the emperor literally screams FOR U I AM THE END AND THE DEATH
(This actually happens)
storm jungle
why the hell are we talking about metroid in the 40k lore channel
because Samus is hot
next question
queen laurel
why the hell are we talking about metroid in the 40k lore channel
no samus as in a character called samus in 40k
Not the armored lady
celest dome
If only Samus was Samus from Metroid
digital glacier
I like when the emperor literally screams FOR U I AM THE END AND THE DEATH
Um, it's actually called creating a thread and plot consistancy, actually
glossy sonnet
"Samus is right behind you... Samus is here" gee i sure hope she is!!
sly ivy
Um, it's actually called creating a thread and plot consistancy, actually
This may be sarcastic but the truth is I secretly like it lmao
noble bear
because Samus is hot
fair
sly ivy
This may be sarcastic but the truth is I secretly like it lmao
Dilara’s boot coming in 5 4 3
shadow plover
Maybe reading the same phrase over and over again would get boring but with the narration it was great ngl
storm jungle
No
it always took me out of it
lmao
WHAT ARE WE
SOME KINDA
SUICIDE SQUAD?
shadow plover
doesn't feel like that at all with the narration
shadow plover
not really
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/suicide-squad-sucide-will-smith-gif-22583748
i cast forced to play the suicide squad game
sly ivy
SOME KINDA
In the early fucking HH books when totally secular space marines are like “IT’S LIKE HERESY”
Like wat
digital glacier
If Abnett isn't the head loremaster anymore? Who else is it going to be? ADB?
storm jungle
In the early fucking HH books when totally secular space marines are like “IT’S ...
Oh god i know that excerpt
hold on
storm jungle
If Abnett isn't the head loremaster anymore? Who else is it going to be? ADB?
he isnt a loremaster tho
he literally makes shit up on the spot
he has the reigns as an old guard to do whatever he wants to do
storm jungle
In the early fucking HH books when totally secular space marines are like “IT’S ...
‘The actions of Horus are treachery, Lord of Ultramar–’
‘Heresy, I would say,’ said Guilliman. ‘It was treachery at first. To turn against brothers, to kill for personal advancement and power. But we have seen them, seen how their minds and bodies have been corrupted. Their very belief systems have been warped. This is no longer Horus’s treachery. It is his heresy.’
digital glacier
he isnt a loremaster tho
Well, he clearly is a head writer if not the head writer
storm jungle
Well, he clearly is a head writer if not the head writer
He isnt.
Theres not really a headwriter in BL
Abnett just gets contacted, comes in, does what he wants, leaves.
hes an extremely busy man
shadow plover
everything he writes still has to go through the higher ups
storm jungle
Generally but not that much
he himself has said on interview they allow him to mostly write what he wants
shadow plover
he often says this and how he's had plenty of ideas he has not been allowed to create
digital glacier
I assume there is some sort of seniority, like there's a reason he's being asked to write foundational levels while others do guard novels
shadow plover
It's Kyme mostly
storm jungle
^
shadow plover
the ideas I mean are like full on stories not some little things within a story
storm jungle
He never does
arctic talon
For some fucking reason lol
storm jungle
imagine tho
as an editor you say:
"Just write as much as you want"
motherfucker you are here to STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING
digital glacier
The GW head office is probably just a bunch of good old boys geeks that have lucked out at life and became at the head of a major IP
dapper gyro
Calm Dil, before you fall to chaos.
storm jungle
Calm Dil, before you fall to chaos.
digital glacier
They sound so, unprofessional
storm jungle
Trust me, they are lol
theres a great variety of people working at GW
Some nice, some mid, some awful
the reason we never got female necrons at one point was because one of the head guys was just outright saying "no" to the idea pre-2018
glossy sonnet
I thought there were female necrons
storm jungle
there is now
glossy sonnet
There are in Infinite and the Divine
storm jungle
there wasnt back then
Infinite and the Divine is like 2 years old lol
people owuld make all sorts of dumbass claims on why they also didnt exist back then which was just guh
glossy sonnet
They were once an alien race did they not need genders to reproduce??
storm jungle
No?
glossy sonnet
Why would they all be male
outer wave
Well, clearly it's because Necrons is an all male society and therefore stinky women necrons do not exist
storm jungle
Why would they all be male
Something-something we dont want women in fiction idfk
digital glacier
the reason we never got female necrons at one point was because one of the head ...
I was actually wondering about why there was no Female Necron character running around
outer wave
Why would they all be male
Mpreg
dapper gyro
I know that most extraterrestrials are based of us... Though, what if there is a species with 3 sexes instead of 2?
glossy sonnet
Boys rule girls drool!
storm jungle
😭
outer wave
I love men!!! I LOVE MEN!!!
glossy sonnet
All females actually went to jupiter to get more stupider
digital glacier
There is only War (of the Sexes)
storm jungle
I was actually wondering about why there was no Female Necron character running ...
There is some
ones with models arent a lot tho ye
theres some female crypteks in kill-team and books but thats kinda it
queen laurel
There is some
sour hornet
They were once an alien race did they not need genders to reproduce??
No? Aliens don't need human genders. The concept of it is an earth thing. They could have reproduced like an amoeba, asexually.
That being said, its 100% because boys go to mars to get more cars, and girls go to Jupiter to get more stupider.
dapper gyro
Or they can do a orgy party like some slug and snail to exchange their genetic material.
glossy sonnet
what, like some sort of biotransfering?
tough haven
There are also transcrons, which is fucking awesome
sour hornet
https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493
arctic talon
(also no one read Forgeworld)
Tbh she aura farmed in her first appearance by smoking Moloch, Twice
Unfortunately the necron imperial armor books were unpopular
sour hornet
There are also transcrons, which is fucking awesome
Can necrons get more based
arctic talon
Bcs the units in them were fucking awful
Lol
It was just the giant fucking dish
And some random ass overlord
Oh also the serepatakh construct
But that’s a goddamn titan
tough haven
After all, If im a immortal robot, why should I be constrained by gender norms? We who shattered our very gods?
sour hornet
Bruh can the aeldari get a fucking crumb of aura? The fucking necrons are eating it all.
arctic talon
And most people will never even dream of owning one
arctic talon
Bruh can the aeldari get a fucking crumb of aura? The fucking necrons are eating...
Yes
tough haven
Can necrons get more based
Yes
tough haven
Bruh can the aeldari get a fucking crumb of aura? The fucking necrons are eating...
Why do you think they hate each other?
arctic talon
And their codexes(sometimes)
tough haven
It’s called Valedor
@sour hornet read valedor
arctic talon
The eldar imperial armor book is great lol
digital glacier
I never heard about Transgender Necrons
tough haven
Possibly the only good Aeldari book
digital glacier
But Trans Eldar were implied
arctic talon
They completely fucking destroy a guard army, the Minotaurs and another marine chapter
tough haven
I never heard about Transgender Necrons
Read Reign and Ruin
arctic talon
Oh also
tough haven
There’s some in there
tough haven
I don’t have the excerpt on hand
arctic talon
The imperial guard will never see it coming
A fucking bomber bursting out of a cave system
sour hornet
Aeldari got wraithbone patched in a hot fix for no reason.
tough haven
But basically the mc remarks that the necron he’s talking to wasn’t their current gender originally, and they go “yeah, I am now though” and the main character goes “ok, cool”
Necrons bodies can take any shape they will
Gender, like most memories of the time of flesh, is just faint echoes
sour hornet
They completely fucking destroy a guard army, the Minotaurs and another marine c...
The only thing of real note is them mogging the Minotaurs. The rest are things that would be two sentance filler in a GW novel.
tough haven
I’m so excited because my 40K campaign is going up against necrons and they don’t know it yet, I can’t wait to put the fear of god in them
arctic talon
The only thing of real note is them mogging the Minotaurs. The rest are things t...
Nah
sour hornet
Yeah
arctic talon
They also retrieve the aspect armor
Lol
For the Phoenix lord of the shining spears
sour hornet
Standard things
arctic talon
The Minotaurs get mogged all the time in imperial armor
arctic talon
Standard things
It is not
As do marines whenever they show up in xenos imperial armor books
Lol
The Minotaurs and red scorpions are the big jobbers
tough haven
Would you folks say arc weapons do anything extra to necrons? RAW I doubt it since they aren’t vehicles, but I imagine it’s still not great for mechanical enemies
tough haven
As do marines whenever they show up in xenos imperial armor books
Good, they fucking deserve it
Too long has it only been the other way around
sour hornet
It is not
It 100% is. Eldar finally doing things on the scale Astartes have been doing for the past decade is not a big deal. 🥀 🥀 🥀
Let me know when an Avatar of Khaine no-diffs a SM Captain.
tough haven
“Oh I’m a big strong marine” Zap! Get skill issued by a single necrons foot soldier because gauss weapons are horrifying
arctic talon
Let me know when an Avatar of Khaine no-diffs a SM Captain.
This happens in the codex
tough haven
Let me know when an Avatar of Khaine no-diffs a SM Captain.
Helmet off captain
arctic talon
The 9e one
tough haven
This happens in the codex
What’s the helmet status?
arctic talon
Off
tough haven
Oh shit
glossy sonnet
Chapter?
sour hornet
Name
arctic talon
All I remember is the dude showed up in the deathwatch 8e codex
sour hornet
My day literally just got better
sour hornet
Unironically
arctic talon
Via avatar of khaine doing a funny
But yeah the avatar of khaine + it’s aspect warrior accompaniment shits on an entire deathwatch watch fortress worth of Marines
But yeah fun fact, did you know Tank armor cannot stop the Wailing doom(axe edition)
that poor Primaris tank I forgot the name of didn't see it coming
and by didn't see it coming I mean it got between the Avatar of Khaine and something it wanted to kill
vagrant fox
There's that Black Templars terminator chaplain who thinks he does a bangup job of getting two hits on an avatar that did nothing, just to get bisected
what a lad
arctic talon
dapper gyro
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027699335632269379/1337892860741161153/1...
Moloch, the guy who mocks custodes...
arctic talon
No
The custodes just isn't sure if he can kill Moloch before Moloch gets to swing
and I'm ngl moloch has an atrocious showing
in like every imperial armor book he tries to dual someone
arctic talon
I c
he always resorts to jumping them with his honor guard once he`s losing
which is fucking hilarious
and I hope GW keeps that running bit with him
of whenever he starts losing his honor guard jump in to guard his honor
vagrant fox
go on the minotaurs subreddit and moloch is wanked up to being able to kill aquilon terminators
dapper gyro
The custodes just isn't sure if he can kill Moloch before Moloch gets to swing
People always take this as the power gauge of the dude...
arctic talon
go on the minotaurs subreddit and moloch is wanked up to being able to kill aqui...
I don't want to
I like Moloch as he is
terrifying as a commander
mediocre as a duelist
and loves ganging up on people and kicking them while they're down
it plays into his spoiled schoolyard bully aura
dapper gyro
go on the minotaurs subreddit and moloch is wanked up to being able to kill aqui...
Damn, they must wank their skin off...
arctic talon
Moloch is at his best when he's punching down or realize he's in over his head
tbh
See: Badab
dapper gyro
40K fans... Characters taking the time to assess the situation is a weakness.
glossy sonnet
Moloc is actually a custodian and Tyberos is a primarch
arctic talon
The Lamenters having lost several companies causes Moloch to have the bright idea of directly attacking their fortress monastery and looting it
which is fucking hilarious
The fact they were looting mid battle
celest dome
Every good looter know you need to loot as early as possible
dapper gyro
Pure bully vibe
arctic talon
The fact they were stealing everything that wasn't nailed down while slaughtering the Lamenters is so goddamn funny
going for the apothocarion wing first as well
Literally punching down
dapper gyro
The fact they were stealing everything that wasn't nailed down while slaughterin...
Perfect match to the Blood Raven.
celest dome
I like to think that in the 40k setting there is a Taskmaster show that some Harlequin Troop Master is doing by kidnapping peoples
near wasp
The custodes just isn't sure if he can kill Moloch before Moloch gets to swing
He doesn't say that. He isn't sure if he could beat moloch with sustaining serious injury himself. To be fair to Valarien he's probably over estimating moloch a bit but still
tough haven
Anyone got any good necron flavored music? I’ve used music of 40K and all the usual sources but I need more
celest dome
Mechanicus has some
glossy sonnet
Anyone got any good necron flavored music? I’ve used music of 40K and all the us...
wdym
sly ivy
The GW head office is probably just a bunch of good old boys geeks that have luc...
…. I’m not sure that’s how a successful business works
tough haven
Mechanicus has some
Already got it, I need MORE
glossy sonnet
Like music that feels like it fits necrons thematically
well kinda easy picks but the droid army and automaton themes from star wars and helldivers
tough haven
well kinda easy picks but the droid army and automaton themes from star wars and...
I’ll look into those, thanks
Not sure if it evokes the same Eldritch dread, but sure
arctic talon
Like music that feels like it fits necrons thematically
I've got some, one moment
tough haven
This might be fitting
It is, thank you!
arctic talon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Qmiy50bwE
https://youtu.be/cpw7p1sS8oE?si=cWfugfQgZSjMfxHy
https://youtu.be/WdKbhTTIvzM?si=yotm6MPfnXcSnptJ
@tough haven here
lots of stuff by the same dude but its unsetteling creepy ambiance music
which imo fits crons well
tough haven
I will look once off work, thank you
glossy sonnet
tough haven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6f_2nPSX8
Horrific to hear blasting through the tomb as you are vaporized
arctic talon
dear fucking god they're giving Palanites an actual arsenal in Munda
I'm going to fucking kill myself
this is the worst news I've heard all month
plush mason
so if this is the only canon image of a beastwomen, but its from bloodbowl do we take it as canon for warhammer or no?
arctic talon
ehhhhhh no
Yesnt?
I guess?
Bloodbowl universe has sexual dimorphism between Orcs
unlike WHFB
I'd say its fine
plush mason
yeah
arctic talon
as an idea
queen laurel
I'm going to fucking kill myself
why
they are still menaces?
arctic talon
yes
Oh also
because enforcers
are balanced around
the fact they don't get access
to special tools
they start off always with bolters and flak armor
but the gimmick is they have limited growth
queen laurel
they start off always with bolters and flak armor
well they are also getting a brand new rule book
a revamp of their old one
Does this mean that other factions do you think could get the treatment?
I'm talking about the relatively old ones
plush mason
why do the foregrips look like half of a pineapple grenade?
plush mason
oh wait thats a hand
arctic talon
which includes female skaven
celest dome
Does this mean that other factions do you think could get the treatment?
Ash Waste and Corpse Grinder Gang 🤞
arctic talon
which means Bloodbowl universe treats female skaven in a less horrid way
plush mason
which includes female skaven
yeah
plush mason
and ogre women
queen laurel
Ash Waste and Corpse Grinder Gang 🤞
corpse grinder yes ashwaste nomads they are relatively new so no
don't be greedy now
plush mason
ashway snowmans?
queen laurel
ashway snowmans?
i am tired and i am voice typing leave me alone
celest dome
Both of you can go to Hive Secundus
plush mason
i am tired and i am voice typing leave me alone
ngl i have made far worse typos so you are fine
arctic talon
Both of you can go to Hive Secundus <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
me?
for telling the truth? smh
celest dome
Not enough
queen laurel
Both of you can go to Hive Secundus <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
you greedy spiky plant
fine but in turn you have to like the latest to total war DLC
near wasp
Never even read a munda book
queen laurel
Never even read a munda book
it's good fun
celest dome
fine but in turn you have to like the latest to total war DLC
The next announced or the next to release ?
queen laurel
The next announced or the next to release ?
the latest one
celest dome
Link it
arctic talon
@queen laurel 3 Lagiacrus's 1 mizutsune
celest dome
I'll point why I'm agry at it
near wasp
<@783504501561753651> 3 Lagiacrus's 1 mizutsune
Good luck
arctic talon
Never even read a munda book
they're fun
queen laurel
<@783504501561753651> 3 Lagiacrus's 1 mizutsune
what did they do piss of poseirdon?
near wasp
I wouldnt
arctic talon
yeah but I'm a massochist
arctic talon
I'm a long time hunter that enjoys the suffering
I am not built different
I just enjoy hard hunts
queen laurel
I'll point why I'm agry at it
tides of torment you have to like tides of torment
arctic talon
Me too but still
MHGU has perma rotted my brain
queen laurel
Is there gonna be only 2 factions ?
i don't think so
celest dome
Is is alright if I dislike only 1 thing in itt ?
queen laurel
They've been doing the three faction roll for a while
arctic talon
the only zone in Wilds that gets super weird and creative is like, Oilwell
Wyveria is fun but its generic ancient ruins
queen laurel
Is is alright if I dislike only 1 thing in itt ?
sure why not
arctic talon
Iceshard is claustraphobic
celest dome
Ok, I don't dislike it
queen laurel
Ok, I don't dislike it
Don't worry I will report back when they reveal the full roster
sly ivy
so if this is the only canon image of a beastwomen, but its from bloodbowl do we...
Jesus god agh
… are there more
plush mason
afaik thats the only official image of one
plush mason
im just imaging an empire captain leading a few dozen men into the forest, finding a seemingly abandoned herdstone and smashing it only for 1000s of pissed off beastmen to come rushing out of seemingly nowhere
digital glacier
Yeah, that's kinda how it works
But the Beastmen would get you before you get your hands on the Herdstone
sly ivy
I really lament the demise of beastmen in AoS. They have great lore and overall design.
queen laurel
yeah they are the most copy pasted faction
At least with other factions you have other new things
opaque coyote
im just imaging an empire captain leading a few dozen men into the forest, findi...
YOU HAVE ALERTED THE HORDE!!!
bold matrix
https://tenor.com/view/night-lords-40k-warhammer-night-lord-gif-9740099160118555...
anyone knows where is this from?
opaque coyote
https://tenor.com/view/night-lords-40k-warhammer-night-lord-gif-9740099160118555...
Unrealistic. A true Night Lord would've skinned the both of them alive.
bold matrix
I know this looks like hammer and bolter and if it is then I am looking for a specific episode/clip
plush mason
you think the inquisitor is wearing a wig or is that all his hair?
humble shoal
Cant wait for the night lord companion
Final enemy is going to be a large collection of halo devices attached to a tyranid
vagrant fox
I like to imagine it's just his hair
arctic talon
you think the inquisitor is wearing a wig or is that all his hair?
imo its a whig for his power armor but his hair is also just like that
arctic talon
die
humble shoal
and luna wolves
languid meadow
I do wonder if we'll promoted to the actual rank of inquisitor or just stay and acolyte under Anton
plush mason
we are gona find the rest of the von valansius bloodline in one of his displays, thats where all the other heirs and what not ended up /jk
languid meadow
since the description of the game says "take up the mantle of an Inquisitor"
plush mason
I do wonder if we'll promoted to the actual rank of inquisitor or just stay and ...
start as acolyte then get promoted
says so on the steam page
rocky gale
I dunno
languid meadow
start as acolyte then get promoted
see that's what I assumed
rocky gale
You might become an Interrogator who is imbued with temporary power of an Inquisitor
Because like in Rogue Trader there are rules for you being the Rogue Trader, but in Dark Heresy the Inquisitor is basically a mythological figure that doesn't resolve things themself because their rolls just succeed.
languid meadow
"Start your service as an acolyte of the Inquisition" we def don't stay an Acolyte
"As an Inquisitor, you have one primary goal: to protect the Imperium, whether that be from the taint of xenos, the betrayal of heretics, or the scourge of mutants, by any means necessary."
The steam description also says this "Every Inquisitorial warband is unique, and yours is no exception."
YOUR warband
not Antons
rocky gale
An Interrogator can lead a Warband
languid meadow
I think we'll become a full Inquisitor under the command of Anton, whether that be due to some fluff they'll make up or have us join the Tyrantine Cabal since he leads it.
but no point in worrying about it now
since it's prob years away from release
rocky gale
opaque coyote
Actually read the comic
At this point I think bro is one of the missing primarchs
Bro took down Absolute Bat Brick with 3 fingers
Then said "Steroids? Haven't used em. Wanna see?"
Then hulked the fuck up
My guy, what did Bruce do to Darkseid to make him bro
queen laurel
Yeah the guy was already bigger than Batman without venom
languid meadow
I really do like the Absolute rogue gallery
queen laurel
My guy, what did Bruce do to Darkseid to make him bro
Well the absolute universe is a universe where hope must shine brighter than it ever has
languid meadow
their history with Bruce is nice
opaque coyote
Yeah the guy was already bigger than Batman without venom
I think the best part is that before this he was noting down all the martial arts styles Batman used
queen laurel
So it's definitely made to be absolutely scuffed
opaque coyote
"Muay Thai? Nice"
Like bro was just being like "hmm this is rather interesting" while dismantling him
plush mason
wait, Throgg killed Sigvald by smashing him like Hulk did Loki and then pissed on his corpse?
fucking based
opaque coyote
So it's definitely made to be absolutely scuffed
I have no idea how the fuck Batman will deal with this
Maybe ODing him to the point where he can't move?
Reminds me of Arkham Origins Bane
(also a really good version of Bane)
plush mason
Maybe ODing him to the point where he can't move?
that has been done before yeah
or mess with his venom injectors
opaque coyote
that has been done before yeah
I am guessing that since even if he did the classic
"cut the tubes"
He would still have a huge problem
sly ivy
it was literally just the WHFB lore
Yes it was which is prob y it was good
opaque coyote
yeah even without the venom Bane is a beast
This was basically my reaction: https://youtu.be/RECPe3h-ePo?si=8O-H5Gx5KNEHCUcl
languid meadow
Oh yeah Dark Heresy collectors comes with a short story for nightlords written by ADB
sly ivy
I’m not actually a grognard I promise I just think AoS needs a lot of work
I loved Dark Harvest and Blood of the Everchosen
opaque coyote
I think the most surprising thing is that Bane did the classic
"Appear suddenly"
On BATMAN
WHILE THAT BIG
MY GUY TELEPORTED IN WITHOUT A SOUND
WHILE HE'S BUILT LIKE A TRUCK
opaque coyote
Also makes me realize how terrifying the Night Lords or Raven Guard must be
Imagine having a 8 foot tall mf appear behind you
Without a sound
humble shoal
Without a sound
This is what makes the scary marines homebrew funny
(Nightlords except they dont torture physically, just continually cause posthuman dread)
By appearing and disseapearing
zenith remnant
An audiobook I just listened to had a Darktide character referenced in its epilogue
sour hornet
I do wonder if we'll promoted to the actual rank of inquisitor or just stay and ...
Like the only other 40k game you play by Owlcat, your predecessor will likely die 5 minutes into the game, and you'll have to pick up the mantle.
languid meadow
I have it on a 50/50 that we're the acolyte of another inquisitor who dies early on and we take their place. OR we're an acolyte of Anton and he promotes us.
arctic talon
Yeah
I don’t think they’d kill Anton 100%
Then again you can murderize calligos and chorda but those are deterministic
late osprey
More people probably killed them than not since fighting them is essentially unavoidable if you RP with IRL values
which a lot of people did especially when it's their first exposure to 40k
storm jungle
An audiobook I just listened to had a Darktide character referenced in its epilo...
What was it?
sly ivy
What was it?
It wuz the story of Sisyphus & had the Big Friendly Rock
storm jungle
U r misguided but I will educate u
zenith remnant
Spoilers for both Darktide and Carcharadons: Void Exile by Robbie McNiven then: ||Throughout the book, you get investigative reports from an Interrogator investigating the Carcharadons Chapter and the aftermath of their battles on a Forge World addressed to a redacted Inqusitor. At the end of the book, said Inquisitor arrives on the world after contact is lost with his Interrogator, and it turns out to be Rannick, along with an unnamed except by implication Explicator and Interrogator||
storm jungle
OOOH Void Exile based
storm jungle
that is super funny
sly ivy
Based af
late osprey
is this the first confirmation that Grendyl is, in fact, real?
or has it been established before
hate that theory so much dawg
storm jungle
I mean we know he is lol
late osprey
Rannick is Grendyl's interrogator
languid meadow
No he's still an interrogator
zenith remnant
Or someone with the same name did. Granted, I didn't see the spelling, I just heard the name
Also, he's still an Interrogator in Darktide. In the audiobook, he apparently got a promotion and is no longer stuck with Tertium. Though why is, of course, not mentioned.
late osprey
OH the inquisitor is rannick
near wasp
Hold on
storm jungle
damn
near wasp
The arbitrator that was pursuing the caradadons is named rannik, I havnt started void exile but it's infinitely more likely to be her
languid meadow
once again I crush the dreams of lore chatters
storm jungle
The arbitrator that was pursuing the caradadons is named rannik, I havnt started...
Yep can confirm
zenith remnant
Nah, hardly.
zenith remnant
I just forgot that lady. And the names sound identical.
near wasp
Yeah
storm jungle
we failed bros
zenith remnant
So yeah, I got confused.
storm jungle
we'll get them next time 💀
near wasp
I knew it was gonna be confusing the first time I heard the name
zenith remnant
Still, good for her.
storm jungle
yeah Grendel is also a very generic monster name ala Beowulf
near wasp
Really
storm jungle
in Dorktide they just changd the last "e" with a "y" lol
zenith remnant
Grendyl likely isn't even his real name.
A psuedonym, like how Rosethorn is for Eisenhorn.
near wasp
She looted the rosette of her dead inquistor and just stole his job, she wasn't even an interragtor at the time. She was just the last person in the retinue left alive
storm jungle
yeah her story has been running since like THE first space sharks book
which is like a decade at this point
near wasp
I legit just finished outer dark like a few hours ago
zenith remnant
She wouldn't still have it if the Inquisition didn't want her to
near wasp
Decade between first two books
near wasp
She wouldn't still have it if the Inquisition didn't want her to
Pretty hard to get people to be in the outer dark
And she has a vested interest in the area
zenith remnant
I think between Outer Dark and Void Exile there has to be a couple more decades. Most if not all of the Carcharadons 3rd Company has either crossed the Rubicon Primaris or been raised Primaris from the start at this point.
sly ivy
It’s not a generic monster name it’s literally specific 2 Beowulf
near wasp
They didn't get any cryo Marines, they only learned how to do the surgery I think
sly ivy
I mean it’s not like “dragon” it’s still the proper name of one monster
zenith remnant
So somehow they got the tech for that despite being, y'know, allegedly exiled and unable to count on Imperial support except after defending the world
storm jungle
I wouldnt think about it
Space Sharks books in general are very handwavy with this stuff
zenith remnant
Actually I can see how it happened.
near wasp
They aren't marked excommunicate traitorous as of the second book
Zogu talks about how he can't enact it yet
zenith remnant
Custodes shows up, kicks a box at them, tells them what it is, to use it well, and then fucks right off.
near wasp
Does this mean tyberos gets even bigger
languid meadow
Does this mean tyberos gets even bigger
zenith remnant
Tyberos in Saturnine plate squishing small vehicles like a tank in a C&C game squishes infantry
Hunger and Slake upscaled again to use Battlefleet: Gothic damage scaling
storm jungle
zenith remnant
AP -Fuck you, all of it
Special effect: After killing the first model of any squad, the rest of the squad shits their pants
near wasp
Being in exile doesn't technically mean you've betrayed the imperium.
zenith remnant
This is true. They're still loyal. It's just that they don't have regular supply lines
near wasp
Yeah they also don't pay a tithe of geneseed
But they can probably be excused from that given there position
zenith remnant
They just have treaties that allow them to take tithes of equipment, supplies, and people from worlds they defend or otherwise regularly protect
near wasp
They also can't take people who directly serve the imperium like arbites.
But rouge traders don't seem to count
sacred ginkgo
Red trader
zenith remnant
Or the Mechanicus. They specifically mention they can't Shanghai any tech-priests or members of the Adeptus Terra, but menials are free game
near wasp
Yeah because they have an alliance with the admech for gear and fuel
That's more valuable than the bodies they might get, and it's not like you can turn skittari into aspirants
zenith remnant
From what I gather, they mostly salvage for armor and weapons and are very careful not to lose anything from fallen Brothers.
And like I said, they don't take anyone that officially is part of the Mechanicus. But the labor forces of Forge Worlds are largely normal humans
near wasp
They might also get some new gear from the trade deals they enact. Because even if it's well maintained gears gonna permanently break
storm jungle
They just have treaties that allow them to take tithes of equipment, supplies, a...
Tbh thats kinda sugarcoating it
zenith remnant
It's true. They get some new stuff here and there. Probably as tithe for their service in defending various worlds.
Like if they defend a forge world that happens to make Astartes gear, they'll take a tithe of the stuff or maybe ask for some to be made for them if its already spoken for
storm jungle
I mean so? They do it about as regularly
its not even implied, they just take who they want
near wasp
The sharks will just take an entire planet
storm jungle
^
near wasp
At least the imperium will keep some people there to continue operations
zenith remnant
True. But they have treaties saying they can, allegedly.
storm jungle
Nah they dont.
That entire thing is:
"We got this paper here that says we can do it."
"Sir this is just a text that says you can do whatever you want."
"Correct."
lol
zenith remnant
shrug
zenith remnant
Again, so is the rest of the Imperium
storm jungle
its why we love them
storm jungle
Again, so is the rest of the Imperium
Again, that doesnt mean anything.
and theres Chapters out there that "try" to appear "humane"
late osprey
"Correct."
Imperial economics is truly sophisticated
near wasp
I see the space sharks as doing that they need to do to survive and fight the good fight
storm jungle
They are on a self-imposed exile nobody cares about as they keep telling themselves they fight the outer dark monsters while constantly running low on marines due to their isolationism.
their entire point is they are edgy loners
late osprey
The sad irony though is that the people they can easily bully into giving them anything they want have nothing of value to space marines
While trying to get real good wargear from, say, tech priests, will just have them go "Lol, lmao even"
zenith remnant
I find your reductionism boring
near wasp
Something something shark infested void
storm jungle
Reductionism?
thats literally their lore
I have read their entire book series lmao
zenith remnant
Which is a great deal more vague about a lot of things than you're implying
storm jungle
It isnt though... again
storm jungle
No lmao
anyway
This is more just apologism for a very evil chapter we read for the sake of exploring what their mindset is like
near wasp
They have there motif and went full dive into
storm jungle
^
its why we like reading them
them being slavers needs no excuses, they are cunts
its why we love them
also uh
can someone tell them blocking mods is against the rules
zenith remnant
Didn't realize you were a mod
storm jungle
Uhuh.
near wasp
near wasp
I can be more hostile if you want dilara
zenith remnant
No, I just have no patience for people who waste my time
near wasp
XD
forest orbit
I feel like this is more you being dead set on something really pointless as a topic
late osprey
forest orbit
lol
sacred ginkgo
No, I just have no patience for people who waste my time
Takes two to fight
late osprey
This is awesome.
forest orbit
Like, space sharks are evil, as said above its we love reading about them. They are funny and morbid
theres a reason their badab introduction is very well favored
zenith remnant
I wouldn't be in a lore channel if I wanted memes. Simple as.
storm jungle
What memes.
near wasp
It's not a meme xD
forest orbit
Meme chat got nuked long ago alas
near wasp
I cri
near wasp
I just listened two the first two space sharks books and they are incredibly brutal and evil
Like they have to constantly control there blood lust
zenith remnant
Brutal yes. Evil? Not by 40k standards.
storm jungle
Bruh.
outer wave
I know nothing of Space Sharks, but considering they're part of the Imperium, I couldnt imagine them not being evil
forest orbit
I think this is like
near wasp
The new librarian captured a fucking rouge trader and bullied her until she gave up here warrent and became his personal servent
forest orbit
them being very infautated with the Chapter and not acceptign any slander. Which is fine to a degree, I do that with Templars too but saying they are not evil by 40k standards is nuts
near wasp
That's evil
storm jungle
I just finished watching some Civil War videos and uhhh
you cannot own another human being
sacred ginkgo
The new librarian captured a fucking rouge trader and bullied her until she gave...
Red trader
late osprey
I don't think Ultramarines are going around doing half of the things Space Sharks doing.
near wasp
Red trader
I'll fight you
zenith remnant
Chapter. Serfs.
sacred ginkgo
I'll fight you
Then learn to spell
late osprey
Chapter Serfs are not all slaves.
Their status is very dependent on Chapter culture.
storm jungle
I emean
yeah that
most are slaves tho
a serf is very much bound to their master
late osprey
OK so like
storm jungle
why do you think we invented these terms
near wasp
In the space sharks they are slaves
storm jungle
its the same as "indentured servitude"
late osprey
LITERALLY? Yes, but not like chattel-degree
storm jungle
Oh yeah lol
forest orbit
In the space sharks they are slaves
That yeah, they outright refer to their serfs as slaves multiple times.
near wasp
They talk about how only a few of them have rights and one of the only ones who do is the head astropath
late osprey
They're literally not allowed to quit their jobs or leave the monastery or anything, that much is true pretty much universally
storm jungle
And thats entirely because he has a use.
zenith remnant
Amazing how quickly we went from "THEY'RE SLAVERS" to splitting hairs the second I point out other Chapters do the same shit
storm jungle
I mean we arent splitting hairs
near wasp
There evil too
storm jungle
we are explaining stuff
late osprey
Classic.
forest orbit
LOL
near wasp
Lololol
outer wave
Lmao even
forest orbit
"waste of my time, NEXT"
sacred ginkgo
Waste of my time, like I said
Then go do something else?
forest orbit
Bro turned into a disney villain
late osprey
Next topic, what color are Imperial Guard fatigues?
near wasp
Whatever color the dirt is they die in
outer wave
Next topic, what color are Imperial Guard fatigues?
The colours yo momma wore last night
storm jungle
forest orbit
late osprey
In one book the Imperial Guard are using tan fatigues, but in another they're in grey. Lore contradiction, most probably.
Maybe even a retcon.
forest orbit
In one book the Imperial Guard are using tan fatigues, but in another they're in...
Waste of my time
WAITER, NEXT
outer wave
Next question
near wasp
Kekw
late osprey
Waste of my time
Is all of 40k just a waste of my time?
storm jungle
Yes.
near wasp
Yes
forest orbit
Yes
outer wave
No, Ogryns are cool and you should learn them
zenith remnant
My only issue with the Carcharadon books is that McNiven seems to think ceremite is kinda weak compared to how its shown in the rest of the universe.
near wasp
Quality control isn't good in the void
zenith remnant
Like it gets chipped and fractured by cultist weapons
near wasp
There's your answer
outer wave
My only issue with the Carcharadon books is that McNiven seems to think ceremite...
Ceramite is as strong as the author wills it to be
late osprey
Power Armor is also not VERY strong in the context of all of the weapons available to the masses. Necromunda Gangers have the firepower to breach power armor.
storm jungle
a terminator can solo some uber-mega threat then die to a bullet through the eye-visor
outer wave
Power Armor is also not VERY strong in the context of all of the weapons availab...
It'd be a fun book if we had space marines versus the gangs of Necromunda
near wasp
You might be able to chip cerimite but getting through it is a lot harder
late osprey
a terminator can solo some uber-mega threat then die to a bullet through the eye...
The infamous one-in-a-million shot. Happens every tuesday.
zenith remnant
Maybe. I just think it kinda kneecaps the impact of when they come up against things that are actually supposed to treat ceremite like soft butter
storm jungle
Its not a maybe its literally just how it is.
authors write whatever works for the plot
its annoying but it is what it is lol
sacred ginkgo
The infamous one-in-a-million shot. Happens every tuesday.
I mean
You are rolling several million times per week
near wasp
They didn't, in the book the cultists have to stab the seals to kill marines
storm jungle
also that yea
near wasp
Which is a real tactic used against knoghts
late osprey
My conclusion was, unsurprisingly, that the Space Marines tend to be good at not getting hit by those armor-breaching weapons anyway. Either by cover or their elite ultra uber-bullet time haxxor reflexes
outer wave
They didn't, in the book the cultists have to stab the seals to kill marines
Like the joints and shit?
storm jungle
Yeah the open spaces
near wasp
Yep or the neck seals
outer wave
Mmm I see
near wasp
Cultists love neck seals
storm jungle
its why knights sometimes had daggers
since when they get close it turns into a homoerotic wrestling match
I mean uh
late osprey
Also Marine armor getting chipped is nothing new. Hell, pretty much every SM2 cosmetic has some battle-damage and chipping
near wasp
This isn't your fanfics dilara
storm jungle
Also Marine armor getting chipped is nothing new. Hell, pretty much every SM2 co...
Yeah it either tanks the hardest shit or just dies to the most meagre stuff
and then people get mad on reddit