40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

every single game ever lol

[dire loom]

What about the reload time?

[dapper gyro]

Grenadier gauntlet can make SM run.

[arctic talon]

Meltas have a long "cycle" time between shots

[dire loom]

Big horde running at you etc.

[arctic talon]

But you don't use them for hordes

you use them to delete one thing

They're anti tank weapons

[queen laurel]

If they are like unstoppable to be fair they could practically solo every single mission alone

[arctic talon]

Tbf

[dire loom]

[arctic talon]

Psykers are gambling as well

lol

Rogue trader is about as close as psykers get to canon strength in a video game

and even then ehhhhh

TTRPG nonsense

[dire loom]

Boss killer then?

[arctic talon]

so the game isn't too absurdly unbalanced

[dapper gyro]

Orgryn grenade launchers can kill Marines.

[arctic talon]

yeah

[dire loom]

Shovel for the horde?

[arctic talon]

oh yeah grenades

we have fucking grenades lol

Krak grenades

[dire loom]

Yeah that could work then.

[arctic talon]

kill marines good

frag less so

The ogryn frag

[dire loom]

[arctic talon]

would fucking smoke a marine lol

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if darktide could introduce a vehicle as a boss.

[arctic talon]

or at the very least cripple them

[dapper gyro]

Krak 1 shot marines in lore, lol.

[arctic talon]

Yes

stick krak

marine dead

Sometimes just crippled if you nail their leg

but they're still effectively fucked lol

bcs their armor is gona be a mess

[queen laurel]

The impact grenade won't kill a marine but it sure as shit stun the f*** out of them

[nocturne crest]

Maybe a chaos version of the goliath truck.

[arctic talon]

Oh

moebian sixth sentinel

[sour hornet]

There is a moment the Imperial Guard are attacking a planet, and a Greater Daemon of Khorne appears and starts ripping through hundreds of guardsmen with whip-strikes and tearing open tanks like cardboard.

All the guardsmen start running away in fear, and the officers bring a couple of Psykers bound in chains to kill its ass.

[arctic talon]

lol

Give the moebian sixth a stolen sentinel or something

that they jacked from the 53rd

[queen laurel]

You also forgot to mention a greater demon showing up and then like a thousand tanks exercising him through ammunition and then sending him back to the warp

[dapper gyro]

Remember that IG is nerfed so they can't rebel vs SM or anything stronger.

[arctic talon]

fuckin chicken

[sour hornet]

A handful of gigachad psykers >>>> a regiment of soy tankers

[arctic talon]

Give the moebians a sentinel

they've surely captured at least one lol

[dire loom]

New class?

[arctic talon]

Nah

well would be funny as a new class

lol

[dapper gyro]

But when you are with the Inquisition, you get access to all the stuff that normal human being can use to destroy everything.

[arctic talon]

mmmmmm

thunder hammer

[queen laurel]

Hey at least i can trust a tank to not accidentally kill my group because they exploded and turn into a demonic portal

[sour hornet]

That's part of the fun

[arctic talon]

I like how GW has all the sentinel patterns coexist in lore

hell fatshark could use the older sentinel design

[dire loom]

Reminds me of those Star Wars walkers.

[arctic talon]

so it fits in more places

[queen laurel]

Yeah they used to have access to everything including fleets yeah

[nocturne crest]

That would be neat.

[queen laurel]

As expected of the person that likes the feet of a horrifying manipulative molester

[dire loom]

Maybe each class get special vehicle?

[nocturne crest]

Oh, I thought you were talking about the HH version.

[queen laurel]

But ignoring that

[arctic talon]

the open top one would prolly be a funny one

since the pilots a nurglite

they could just not go down

[queen laurel]

go with the close top one

Because it's going to look more like mobian

I love the admonition but they take every god monstrosity in this game

[arctic talon]

oh yeah I forgot cadians got their own unique sentinel pattern lol

[dapper gyro]

I don't know how that thing can handle the recoil without falling over, but ok...

[dire loom]

New enemy type confirmed?!

[arctic talon]

add in scab captains as random spawns

[queen laurel]

What's new with that one that's literally just a sentinel with an auto cannon

[arctic talon]

its got different armor design

and has an auto cannon yes

thats it

[dire loom]

Video game logic

[arctic talon]

I'd assume las weapons don't have enough recoil

its "just" a multilaser

or flamer

[dire loom]

Yeah, las has no recoil.

[arctic talon]

or las cannon actually

[dapper gyro]

This one definitely not a laser or flame...

[arctic talon]

I forgot they could take those now

[arctic talon]

yeah idfk about that one

lol

[dire loom]

Strange that las weapons have recoil in Warhammer 40k games though..

[arctic talon]

fuck it add this thing

[arctic talon]

No recoil feels like shit

its a gamer psychology thing

guns with recoil always feel "better" to the user

and stronger

See BF4's Chinese assault rifle vs the US one

[queen laurel]

Yeah because of misinformation of guns having too much recoil gamers can accept a gun having no recoil unless it's like a very specific gun

[arctic talon]

people thought the default chinese AR was better

because it had more visual recoil and sounded "angrier"

the guns had the exact same stats

[dire loom]

🗣️ **I must feel the recoil!

Based **

[arctic talon]

its not even actual recoil

the gun just looked like it "shook" more

its kind of hilarious how the mind works like that

[dapper gyro]

Well, lasgun has vibration... not recoil, but still some sway.

[dire loom]

Yeah recon las definitely feels that way.

All those lasers, no recoil.

[dapper gyro]

Fun fact in real life, heavier gun doesn't make it easier to control, despite the less recoil felt.

In fact, it is harder to correct the recoil.

[dire loom]

Looks cool though, I like energy weapons. For physical ballistics, the bolters have spoiled me.

So I see auto weaponry as sub par low tier. Las and stub mid tier, bolter and the rest of the energy weaponry as high end tier.

Can Arbites use las weaponry?

[arctic talon]

generally no

but they could

arbites use kinetic weaponry

[dire loom]

Or energy weaponry besides stun or electric?

[arctic talon]

because it causes fear

[dapper gyro]

Suppresion

[arctic talon]

they do use webbers

and plasma

Also yeah what deinocamo said

[arctic talon]

Power mauls, power weapons in general

[dire loom]

[arctic talon]

though mauls are more common

since "less" lethal

bashing someones kneecaps is less lethal then cutting their leg off

[dapper gyro]

Also, IG autoguns use heavy stubber ammo. So autogun is definitely not any less powerful than lasguns.

[dire loom]

That's why we get bolter for Arbites in-game and Warhammer 40k general lore?

[arctic talon]

Bolters are just normal arbite gear

lol

But arbites perfer weapons that can cause fear/supress people

terror is a powerful tool

[nocturne crest]

Arbites machine gun when?

[arctic talon]

They do use heavy stubbers

lol

Webbers, grenade launchers, heavy stubbers, plasma ect.

[nocturne crest]

I wonder how they would balance it out.

[dapper gyro]

Also because projectile weapon allows them to use specialized ammo.

[arctic talon]

yeah

manstopper rounds

[dapper gyro]

Lasgun is just there to kill.

[arctic talon]

executioner shells

[dapper gyro]

Executioner shotgun supposed to have executioner shell that homing to the target.

[dire loom]

I guess I can always stun people with my chain sword since it's none lethal.

[nocturne crest]

Imagine if the arbites became the first class to take two guns.

[dapper gyro]

Chain sword in DT is sad...

As it should be.

[arctic talon]

I'm surprised they didn't give us the arbite like

nightstick lol

the repression baton

[nocturne crest]

Like the lmg lad up there, but with a small pistol secondary ad well.

[arctic talon]

The repression baton would be hilarious

in Darktide

[nocturne crest]

Wait, nvm, I see the baton between the guy/gal's legs.

[dire loom]

Perfectly cracked bashed skulls with brain matter every = mission accomplished. Protest has ended.

[arctic talon]

just a tiny little stick you beat the fuck out of people with

lol

well "tiny"

[dire loom]

[dapper gyro]

Power maglite flashlight.

[arctic talon]

Surprised they didn't make a scoped shotpistol as an option

tbh

or at the very least a skin

[dapper gyro]

1980s american cops favorite weapon.

[arctic talon]

I want the castigator Excrutiator Maul

actually that thing might be in game already

I think it is ingame already

[dapper gyro]

Shotpistol in game is like a .410 shell, but shot .454 Casull.

[dire loom]

Some of the mauls have spike or rivits in em though. Like literal medieval weaponry to kill with blunt trauma but sci-fi and space future setting.

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/im-ready-baton-asp-rosa-diaz-b99-gif-11848606

[arctic talon]

yep

lmao

[dapper gyro]

(Fun fact, .454 Casull and .410 shell have the same base diameter)

[arctic talon]

Power weapons are meant to still be usable while unpowered

[dire loom]

They have a regular baton I noticed on some of the drip, but they never use it. Lol

[arctic talon]

Its a repression baton which is like a knife equivelent lol

well "knife"

[dapper gyro]

All power weapons are meant to be usable while unpowered.

[terse kestrel]

Well it’s because the baton is for civilians and the power weapons are for the enemies

[arctic talon]

the baton is a shock weapon still tbf

that thing is pretty nasty

[dire loom]

**Literally a morning Star or mace and maul hammer = weapon of peace **

[terse kestrel]

You can probably turn it off or tune it down

[dire loom]

Nice

[arctic talon]

the mechanicus "weapon" of law enforcement

[dapper gyro]

Less than lethal

[arctic talon]

yes

tune it down unsure of

turn it off yeah

the Arbites in gallowdark use them unpowered to beat a noble half to death

lol

[dapper gyro]

Because, you know, with what happens in the US, nothing is "none lethal".

[terse kestrel]

Is there lore on this mask? Why wear a gimp mask

[dire loom]

I'm planning on loading up on drip next Thursday coming up. Slop gonna be good this rotation, I just know it!

[arctic talon]

pre darktide no, post darktide

"It is the Castigator's role to ensure that the guilty receive due punishment, their hood-like helms steeling their resolve against curses and pleas alike."

wait nvm

[terse kestrel]

Are Castigators a specific unit that would wear that helmet specifically

[arctic talon]

this is literally from their killteam description

[arctic talon]

They're a type of specialist arbite designed for "securing" prisoners

usually violently

they have enhanced shock cuffs

compared to the usual fare that arbites bring

[dapper gyro]

Usually yes

[dire loom]

Nothing does that more better than mowing down the block fodder with bolter, hundreds dead in seconds, short pause of realization and reflection of grim dark reality.. then the screams begin.

Attention citizens-

Blam, blam, blam-

Truly immersive

[nocturne crest]

Okay, so if the arbites are ranked higher than the rejects, what is the next higher rank that could be turned into a character?

Custodes?

[terse kestrel]

Probably a ratling tbh

[queen laurel]

what no

[dapper gyro]

Nah, they are not ranked like that.

[queen laurel]

They are just planetary police lawkeepers that watch planetary tithes

[terse kestrel]

I just meant in general

[queen laurel]

They are not that important in the grad scheme of things

[dapper gyro]

Like, if the Vet was part of an elite unit, their training would be way above the Arbites.

[arctic talon]

Idk shove tech adepts in

[arctic talon]

The vets don’t seem to have storm trooper training from the regiments

Tbf

[dire loom]

I guess a Arbitrator having a chain sword would make lex breakers shit themselves no doubt.

Sanctioned Bubba from Texas Chainsaw Massacre reporting for duty.

Causes fear, keeps em in line.

[dapper gyro]

Hence the "if".

[arctic talon]

Sawing a protester in half is a good way to get them to disperse lol

[queen laurel]

Unfortunately dark tide isn't designed for short classes and fat shark themselves said they don't on adding short classes because it's just going to be space bardin

[arctic talon]

Fair

[terse kestrel]

You could headcanon a character to have it though, like 4 weeks ago there was Grendyl’s elite unit which were probably pretty skilled

[dire loom]

What do they do or what are they meant for?

[dapper gyro]

Arbites is simply "not reject". Not really higher ranking.

[arctic talon]

Removing your limbs and tearing you apart

[dapper gyro]

Especially that the reject is part of a warband.

[queen laurel]

Because they got added people already think they can add non-reject things like space marines or some s*** because they're just not reject

People need to understand that at best these guys are just equipped to fight at a small war

Not super armies that can bring planets to the imperium on their own

[terse kestrel]

Our rejects are also not really that low ranked. They probably hold a lot of authority on the planet

At this point in the story

[dapper gyro]

They don't

[arctic talon]

They’re part of an inqusitorial war band now

[queen laurel]

They do not

[arctic talon]

But they’re not that powerful

Lol

[queen laurel]

They're just acolytes

[dapper gyro]

They are made for battle, not politic.

[arctic talon]

They’re the grunts of the inquisition

[queen laurel]

Literally fodder for the inquisition

[arctic talon]

Well

[terse kestrel]

You can dress up as a witchhunter which is very powerful

[arctic talon]

High quality valuable fodder

[cinder pivot]

What is the purpose of the two antennae on the Furious Class Grand Cruiser?

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Furious_Class_Grand_Cruiser

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/d/d1/FuriousCruiser.jpg

[queen laurel]

Gameplay lore disconnect

[arctic talon]

We’re going off of the personalities though, not the cosmetics

Tbh

[queen laurel]

And if you really want to include cosmetics you can only really bring in the ones you can get free

[arctic talon]

Better command capabilities

[queen laurel]

Paid cosmetics are paid

If they are lore then that's just kind of stupid

[arctic talon]

The paid cosmetics aren’t our level 30 rejects

They’re different people

[queen laurel]

That too

[arctic talon]

I’d assume Hallowette also sells other stuff

[dapper gyro]

Small war, as in whatever was happening in LA... that's a small war in the US.

[queen laurel]

They have names for a reason

[arctic talon]

We just don’t see it in game

[dire loom]

Lol true

[terse kestrel]

I feel like a witchhunter team fits in with what our characters do in a far reaching echo type way

[queen laurel]

Unfortunately we are not which hunters we are literally bottom wrong better than average acolytes

Mind you compared to a normal acolyte we are great but we're not that elite

We're just you know competent fodder

[dapper gyro]

By level 30, maybe stormtrooper level? but still.

[terse kestrel]

If you’ve done havoc 40 you’d basically be equivalent to something like a witchhunter

[dapper gyro]

Havoc is a gameplay thing, not lore.

[terse kestrel]

But yeah the character personalities are rejects

[dire loom]

Based

[queen laurel]

Again ludonarrative dissonance

We are doing things we should not be doing but we are fine because this is a game

Again we are capable but we are not that ridiculous we are just good

[terse kestrel]

Sort of? I mean you get elite equipment for completing havoc, and there’s characters dedicated set up, so they are in the lore acknowledging they are more difficult but I get they are just reskinned missions in the game

[arctic talon]

Havoc quantities aren’t canon

Same with enemy durability and such

[queen laurel]

^

[dapper gyro]

You don't just repeat a mission again and again to gain cosmetics and money in the lore...

[queen laurel]

Seriously lasguns can blow apart concrete with a single shot yet a dreg rager can eat multiple shots

[terse kestrel]

I understand that. I’m just making a headcanon stretch. Canonically there’s hundreds if not thousands of rejects, some are actually probably pretty good and elevated, we’ve seen it with the characters mentioned in Grendyl’s warband

[arctic talon]

I am of the opinion

only the 6/3 personalities each

are elevated

So the 6 of each non ogryn

and then the 3 ogryn

[queen laurel]

Yeah basically your rejects

There the competent ones canonically reject casualties are astronomical

[dire loom]

I had a thought, was texting it.. but then lag happened. Then it was all gone, deleted and reduced to atoms.

Then I forgot.

[dapper gyro]

For me, there are hundreds of rejects, but the personalities we get are those who survived.

[arctic talon]

yeah thats my thing

those are the ones who survived to 30

and are full blown members of the warband

the other rejects are all cannon fodder

[dapper gyro]

So all 22 for me.

[dire loom]

I think so too.

[dire loom]

That's a decent squad size too actually.

Then have Sergeant Major Marrow lead it and you're golden.

[terse kestrel]

So like my theory is that the rejects taking on havoc may be something like these guys, so rejects can be quite good. I understand the personalities we have are not them, but you can still larp as them https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Strike_Team_Tenebrous

[dapper gyro]

Oh, you mean 6 personalities each class, 3 males 3 females... I was confused for a second.

[dire loom]

Drip gonna be good next rotation.

Trust

[terse kestrel]

The male and female are identical. But the 3 human classes have 9

[terse kestrel]

What does it look like

[dapper gyro]

Lore operators are often not rejects.

[terse kestrel]

But like for my character I kinda dress up as a Kasrkin usually and my headcanon is that I’ve been sent in for whatever reason because I haven’t actually thought about it

[arctic talon]

yeah

Also the personalities do have some differences

between male and female

[dapper gyro]

They are not the same. They have different voice lines and personalities.

[dire loom]

Nothing wrong with just having fun tbh.

Cadians are based

[dapper gyro]

Cadian male gives more care to teammates when they are down, while Cadian female is more prideful.

[dire loom]

Same with Steel Legion.

[terse kestrel]

When you say cadian, do you mean professional

[dire loom]

Catachan too op, and Krieg used way too much.

[terse kestrel]

I don’t remember a cadian being a voice

[dire loom]

Drowning in em.

[terse kestrel]

I remember professional and sharpshooter

[dapper gyro]

Cadian female talks a lot about the Sisters of Battle, while Cadian male is always about fighting spirit.

[dire loom]

Just in general.

[dapper gyro]

Cut Throat is Cadian origin only.

[dire loom]

The Cutthroat. Screams and yells Cadia 24/7.

[terse kestrel]

Oh

It’s actually annoying that the standard green guard armour is so shit

They literally released a god tier cadian set and then painted it black just to annoy me

[dire loom]

The slop must flow! #darktide-driptide

[terse kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153279327513886770/1389334667014180965/456888888.png?ex=68643e3d&is=6862ecbd&hm=2042f33fe8e19948c09c6e831093c343e27bc0ccf5dd81a47041873d24009ceb&

[dapper gyro]

You can change personality while keeping your progress. You will see the difference if you pay attention.

[terse kestrel]

This looks good but it isn’t as good as it could be

[terse kestrel]

I’ll probably change to that. I’ve been the professional for a while, but he also yells for cadia a lot

[storm jungle]

Professional doesnt yell for Cadia though

[dapper gyro]

Lol, the professional insult Cadia...

[storm jungle]

^

[terse kestrel]

The game doesn’t let me have purple eyes…

[storm jungle]

I mean yeah

because you arent Cadian

[dapper gyro]

Only if you pick Cadia...

[terse kestrel]

I swear on me mum my character has glazed cadia

[dapper gyro]

You are not even playing a Cadian reject...

Oh my, typical WH40K person. Don't worry, you are not alone.

[terse kestrel]

You guys made me turn on my pc

If my character ever insulted cadia I would gasp

[storm jungle]

Theres literal videos of it

[terse kestrel]

I am the professional, I’ve never heard an insult to cadia

I will fix this

It’s because I don’t really like cutthroats voice

[dapper gyro]

Only if you play with a Cut throat on your team.

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/x2yx7gdPyB0?si=Om-EEU00ASgojdl0

Literally this

[dapper gyro]

Just check YouTube if you can't make the difference between your professional character and someone else cut throat.

[storm jungle]

Oof

bad opinion

[sacred ginkgo]

Its a 3 vets conversation so its very rare

[dapper gyro]

They never played Cut throat , they don't know how wholesome they actually are.

[terse kestrel]

I rerolled my voice

[queen laurel]

Funny thing is he's not even that bad yet he's just you know serious

[dapper gyro]

Cut throat cares for psykers and orgryns the most out of all Vet.

[queen laurel]

He can get along with someone

[terse kestrel]

I hate psykers

[queen laurel]

The arbites Maul is way worse than him because of how much of a stick up he is for the lex

And he basically treats his dog like a tool

[dapper gyro]

Cut throat have a grave case of survivor PTSD.

[jade holly]

Savant Psyker: For the Lex Atoma

Maul Arbites: who tf said you were on my team?

[queen laurel]

Yeah if you expect the guy that literally survived his planet imploding on his face thinking he's going to be emotionally adjusted is

Questionable

[jade holly]

Is Loose Cannon the name of the comedic relief Vet?

[queen laurel]

Yes

[jade holly]

Love that guy

[dapper gyro]

Yes

[queen laurel]

He's the outlier veteran

Because unlike the other two he does not act like a professional

[dapper gyro]

Female Loose Cannon actively tries to cheer male Cadian up it is too fun.

[jade holly]

Bro has definitely been Court Martialed a few times

[queen laurel]

The guy forgets the code names for enemies

The other two veterans remember it no problem

[jade holly]

Traxis… something… SNIPAAAAH

[dapper gyro]

Loose cannon male and female are very distinctive.

[queen laurel]

traxis 12 YEAH TRAXIS 12

[queen laurel]

To be fair every class besides ogrin because obviously

Their female and male have distinct differences

Which is i really love

[crystal forum]

they all sound kinda british

[dapper gyro]

Each class has at least 1 that I feel like the are the same.

Vet professional
Zealot judge
Psyker seer

Of course they are different, but not as distinctive as the others.

[terse kestrel]

All british with crooked noses.

Why I try to find outfits that wear a helmet

[sour hornet]

I love psykers

I've chosen a psyker as my character in every 40k game where its an option

[tough haven]

For Aeldari rangers who act as mercenaries, what do imperials pay them in? Aeldari artifacts? Spirit stones? It’s not like grubby Mon’keigh money is worth anything to them

Or is it some mystical “payment” like some fae shit

[storm jungle]

Same answer as anything, whatever the plot/author wants.

[tough haven]

Fair enough

[storm jungle]

Some oath, promise, location, secret, etc

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-3dollars-broke-no-money-patrick-star-gif-9176068

[sour hornet]

I had a game where my group (a mix of corsairs and rangers) were paid with the location of a deceased Inquisitors cache of equipment and belongings, which included spirit stones and other useful things. (Maps of shipping lanes, Imperial listening posts, etc.)

We bartered the extra soulstones (we didn't need them) to a craftword for actual good shit.

[celest cedar]

uhm actually Lex Atoma and Lex Imperialis is 2 different things 🤓

[jade holly]

I’m gonna tell the Ogryns you were stealing their rashuns

[crisp heath]

Hey bulgar weird ork question do u know if orks for one have wisdom teeth and two are they considered to be worth more than regular teeth

[celest dome]

Nothing is written about it

[queen laurel]

No they determine teeth worth

On how sharp and dangerous looking it is

[crystal forum]

and big

[queen laurel]

In Ork society only big, sharp, ivory-like fangs have any real value and - the miserable stubs of Humans and Grots are too fiddly and pathetic and as such are worthless
-lex

[crisp heath]

Thanks bulgar

[queen laurel]

You're welcome

[crystal forum]

my biggest question was always whether they'd consider their giant mounts to have valuable teeth

those big lizard things

[queen laurel]

They do consider those valuable

Hell there's even a breed of squigs bread for their teeth

[crystal forum]

i wonder if a human could trick orks into thinking something mundane is teeth

[queen laurel]

nah they have been trading and bartering teeth for so long that they can practically tell what is a teeth and what is not

[crisp heath]

I can imagine them wearing monocles all proper dressed w scales n what not evaluating the teeth

[opaque coyote]

I remember that most Ork teeth rot quickly when outside of their mouths

That doesn't go for other types of teeth though

So could an Ork theoretically horde like big ass monster teeth

And then use it to buy whatever scrap and squig grog they want

[queen laurel]

Nope

Being too rich in ork society can get you outcasted

[opaque coyote]

Ork Society is perfect clearly

I guess it's how they keep their ""economy"" in shape though

The most accessible form of their currency rots quickly outside of their own mouths

And being too rich gets you thrown out

[queen laurel]

Yeah they have a renewable form of currency that is anti inflation

[opaque coyote]

The Old Ones thought of everything

...except on how to turn them off

You would think that would be priority #1 for making a bioweapon

But apparently not

[misty vector]

They probably werent planning on getting all killed so they wouldve done it after

[tough haven]

They were kinda made as a last ditch effort

[queen laurel]

bag

[cinder pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/x-qc-clap-gif-22540575

[rocky gale]

Space marine lieutenant with manbag, let’s gooo

[rose thorn]

Isn’t this a lov bag?

[queen laurel]

don't know

[rose thorn]

I feel like there’s been a lot of lov stuff, but I doubt it’s gonna be more than 2 characters lol

[fallen marsh]

Looks like enforcers bits

[fallen marsh]

Most likely their book and update like Squats and Nomads

[celest dome]

Maybe a character

[rose thorn]

GASP!!!

YAY

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/msumipr2/warhammer-heroes-brings-another-elite-team-of-space-marines-to-the-battlefield/

Space marines are truly the most oppressed majority

[queen laurel]

@spare osprey

this one's for you

[golden imp]

Have any primarchs ever dealt with necrons?

[rose thorn]

Gulliman

[mossy peak]

whats armageddon

[rose thorn]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Armageddon

[winged jacinth]

Where was it that i heard a line like
"During the third war for armageddon..."
"Dont you means second? There were only two"
"Uh... yeah... the second war..."

Haters will say its to cover up the existence of daemon primarchs and grey knights but i think they lie about it because they're embarrased about all the random people they killed trying to contain the knowledge

blows up three hive worlds because i accidentally let a bunch of people go home

That part always seemed really silly to me
You wouldn't need to sterilize the civilians and send them to work camps
And why wouldn't they just... task the remaining guard to the GK indefinitely

[tired quiver]

Any good hymns to the Omnissiah I can use when booting up machines?

I tire of letting my machines go unprotected by the omnissiah.

[tough haven]

It was from a legio titan book

Imperator

[tough haven]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cult_Mechanicus_Religious_Excerpts

https://www.reddit.com/r/AdeptusMechanicus/comments/asq45q/collected_quotes_aphorisms_and_psalms_from_the/

[arctic talon]

any guesses

[queen laurel]

necromunda

[spare osprey]

I’m ngl

It’s the most boring heroes series

[celest dome]

Enforcers Munda

[queen laurel]

is it not it?

yeah i guessed it

[spare osprey]

Like even the poses are kinda basic

[queen laurel]

yeah i've seen vanilla ice cream more interesting than these guys

[spring cairn]

i (drew) hired this git to guard our base

[arctic talon]

A masterpiece

[storm jungle]

Unlike that gun skin

[spring cairn]

it's my friend's

but you don't run that skin cuz it looks good

it literally changes the model of the gun, so you get better ironsights

p2w

[storm jungle]

terrible, just terrible

[terse kestrel]

What's the lore on the dangling chain over other armour types

[jolly trout]

Holy shit there ARE genestealers on the planet

My copy of the darktide RPG book came in.

[queen laurel]

Any hive world standing long enough is gonna have the eventual gene Stealers popping up this is just life

a hive world that doesn't have one is either really lucky or they are very good at keeping themselves safe

[jolly trout]

Also interestingly the planet is near to Terra.

[shadow plover]

that is known, about the same distance from terra as Necromunda but to the oppositedirection

[shadow plover]

It's the sentry's shield, or 'duty officer's shield'. It indicates that the person is assigned as the duty officer/sentry/whatever. Not quite sure what is the correct English name for it but at least that's a very similar concept in multiple armies in the world

[spare osprey]

Tbf

Terra itself has genestealers on it

lol

[storm jungle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorget

Throat armor that kinda became more of a cosmetic item and show of station/prestige.

[shadow plover]

oh yeah, gorget is a word that exists

we just called them shields

[celest dome]

While yes, it's not something made by FS and isn't a full inclusion but rather random encounters

[jolly trout]

true, but there is a lot of mention of Genestealers in the game dialogue and Morrow himself, and also several cash shop options

[storm jungle]

Well the cash shop option isnt genestealer stuff

its just industrial cosmetics which GSC also just use because its standard issue lol

also idk about "alot" its literally just casual conversation

[shadow plover]

the cash shop also has Gregor Eisenhorn's jacket which doesn't mean he'll show up to collect it

[arctic talon]

its been described as parallel to necromunda

[celest dome]

All mentions of GSC in game have set them on other planets than Atoma, and the GSC on the Mourningstar seem to have been resolved already

[arctic talon]

I mean, I don't see why its imporbable Atoma has some GSC on it

its probably not a ton though

[terse kestrel]

So it’s for sergeants or veterans basically

[storm jungle]

More or less

[arctic talon]

Seeing as they're all veterans in Darktide

it makes sense

[winged jacinth]

6th class...

blitz: summon daemonhost and evaporate warlord titan

but yeah its almost certain tertium has genestealers, its a gigantic and rotting hive
the odds of the cult becoming a problem at the same time as the nurgle cult uprising?

rather than fighting genestealers i could see some funny stuff where the genestealers are helping us behind the scenes because tyranids cant eat a daemon world

[arctic talon]

The genestealers become a temporary ally

Lmao

[rocky gale]

Like that mission in Halo

[arctic talon]

“Unfortunately we must ally with our oppressors”

[faint fossil]

I have a question, which space mari... I mean ADEPTUS ASTARTES chapter would most likely fight alongside astra militarum?

[arctic talon]

Any of them

Chapters aren’t that picky

They’ll go to warzones and there’s always guardsmen present

[late osprey]

Generally in fact they only go to warzones where the guardsmen clearly CAN'T handle it, even

So more often than not there's a guardsmen presence where they go

[faint fossil]

so it can be whatever

[arctic talon]

^

Yes

The chapter that is less likely to fight along side guardsmen are the like

Deathwatch

And the deathwatch aren’t a chapter

[late osprey]

Grey Knights

But they're also a special case

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[terse kestrel]

The Ravenguard probably would have a low rate of teaming up

[arctic talon]

Chapters cannot fight campaign long term alone

[arctic talon]

No

They have no reason not to

[terse kestrel]

Well they usually would move too fast for the guard

[arctic talon]

The deathwatch and grey knights both specifically have reasons that they’re less often paired

[arctic talon]

The guard would still be in the warzone fighting

[faint fossil]

well, thx for answering 🙂

[arctic talon]

The guard may be part of a pincer

Ect.

[arctic talon]

No problem

[terse kestrel]

Yeah I guess it depends on the term fight alongside.

They’d be apart of the same war

[storm jungle]

Yeah this is the emphasis

they will fight alongside IG if it suits them, its more dependant on what or how they act with them lol

[terse kestrel]

I love the ravenguard but their physical appearance is so nasty

[faint fossil]

ok, so what if it wasn't a full on war and there were the guards men and some space marines, and which chapter would 'pair ?' the best with them in a battle?

[terse kestrel]

The pale skin and black hair ruins it

[terse kestrel]

Literally every space marine is super special forces

So all of them

The shittiest space marine is probably better than the best sas

[faint fossil]

I mean ye, but blood angels for example seems like someone guardsmen would less likely want to fight alongside with

[late osprey]

There is a chapter that is hyper-specialized for supporting the Guard, the Mentors Chapter

So probably them

[terse kestrel]

Blood Angels are like the top 3 nicest to guardsmen and civilians

[faint fossil]

well idk

[faint fossil]

I think this might be what I was looking for

[arctic talon]

Nice(for a marine)

[faint fossil]

I was asking those questions cuz I'm thinking of making an army of astra militarum, and I thought about adding some space marines in mabey

well, doesn't matter, thx

[terse kestrel]

Shoulda started with that

[storm jungle]

Mentors 100% as said above

go read up on their lore on lexi a bit they are exactly what you are looking for i think

[sly ivy]

For 10th? I think the only Astartes you can add are Grey Knights Terminators

For 30k you can do allies more liberally

[faint fossil]

ok thx, I'll read up on them too

[terse kestrel]

The Rogal Dorn gene seed is S tier

Imperial Fists are basically the guard

[sly ivy]

The Rogal Dorn tank is also S tier

Coincidence? I THINK NOT

[terse kestrel]

Crimson Fists are top 3 nicest boys

[humble shoal]

Rogal dorn terminator is also S tier, definitely not a coincidence

[sly ivy]

(It’s the autism)

[humble shoal]

Yes

[arctic talon]

They’re literally inqusitorial lapdogs what

Where is this misconception the crimson fists are nice to everyone comes from

They’re nice to the populace of Rynn’s world

But not to uh

others

[terse kestrel]

That’s pretty nice for 40k

[arctic talon]

I mean

Treating your homeworld populace somewhat nicely and no one else

I guess lol

[storm jungle]

Also harvesting them for kids

and genetically torturing said kids

among uh other thngs

[vagrant fox]

it's probably that one part where the lady gets carried

a shame on all crimson fists

[terse kestrel]

Why do people like Armageddon over Krieg

[rocky gale]

Why do people prefer apples over oranges?

[storm jungle]

Because Krieg is extremely overrated and has an annoying fanbase.

[terse kestrel]

yellow so yucky

[storm jungle]

they are also just neat

Krieg meanwhile is like "edgelord's first guard regiment"

[sly ivy]

Their new models I grudgingly admit are pretty cool

[late osprey]

Armageddon playstyle-wise is IIRC also one of the premier mechanized regiments

So if you like chimeras more than artillery then there's a reason to prefer Armageddon right there

[rocky gale]

Armageddon pattern vehicles are basically all cooler than the standard version too

[arctic talon]

Tabletop wise it’s bcs krieg playstyle is boring as shit traditionally

It’s literally just sit back and blow you up while having obnoxious infantry to remove

And don’t interact lol

Krieg are more obnoxious to fight then Tau almost alway because Tau at least interact

Armageddon is on the other hand much more interesting playstyle wise bcs it’s normally a fast moving mechanized force that is trying to rush down midfield

[sly ivy]

Based mechanized guard

What a fun playstyle

[arctic talon]

I would rather chew glass

Then play into lore accurate krieg

[late osprey]

ASL kinda hard-counters krieg too, certainly in theoretical lore-accurate matchups

Mechanization was arguably one of the main killers of the WW1 style of warfare

[arctic talon]

Yeah

I think the big thing with krieg nowadays is that

I’m just kind of tired of the circle jerk around them

I don’t even dislike the faction lol

[fervent gull]

do you know why psykers have a beloved? Are they like mistaking the warp as a person?

[tough haven]

Holy shit you've summed it up perfectly, steel legion for life!

[tough haven]

Demon or some other sort of warp entitity is speaking to them in their mind

[fervent gull]

Oh shit

[tough haven]

Theres a non zero chance its some fragment of the Emperor's mind, but its unlikely

More than likely is something pretending to be the Emperor

[fervent gull]

Emperor is that active in the warp?

[tough haven]

Yes and no

and also unknown

[fervent gull]

Yeah Ik that but didn't know emperor had that much reach

[tough haven]

If that answer is confusing

thats because it is

[tough haven]

Never strictly confirmed, but faith in 40k is a tangible force

you can really pull some bullshit with it

[fervent gull]

Yeah Ik what you mean with uncertainty, I was just surprised emperor had that much capability in the warp

He is portrayed like a 90 year old man on deathbed of the hospital

[fervent gull]

Then wouldn't those creatures try to "force open" psyker's mind?

[tough haven]

The Emperor isnt exactly a cohesive entity, with the sheer multitude of people believing in him, his own contradictory self, the many different aspects of him that are worshipped in different ways, and his fractured psyche from the eternal torment of the throne, he's several conflicting shards of consciousness that kinda each do their own thing thats kinda cohesive

[tough haven]

He is

they have to keep feeding him more and more psykers to keep his physical form alive and fuel his psychic presence

but in the warp he is immensely powerful, I dont think he actually does too much due to the state of his mind and body, but he is THE most powerful psyker to mankind

and that was before he got hooked up to the mysterious golden throne that massively boosts his power, and that we dont fully understand

and he is constantly fed 10,000+ psykers every day

[tough haven]

yes, but many Daemons and warp entities are cunning

that leads to discovery immediately

if you can convince them to let you in

you can influence them, and thus realspace on a more consistent level, and can remain under the radar

or enact schemes you couldnt if you were overtly posessing them

[storm jungle]

Also we got no idea what it even is too

its left extremely vague

[tough haven]

And I like it that way

[storm jungle]

Same

[tough haven]

could be the Big guy

could be a tzeenchian daemon

[storm jungle]

its even funnier when you realise the entity also actively helps the psyker and the missions lol

[tough haven]

could be some psychic echo

[storm jungle]

also gives battle advice

[tough haven]

could be fucking anything

[tough haven]

Funnier when you realize that doesnt discount any possibilities

Daemons could help just for fun, or to further some unseen plan, or to just fuck over Nurgle for the Great Game

[fervent gull]

But isn't emperor's soul much much stronger than what he is feeded? I don't get how his mind is that weaker

[fervent gull]

Oh that makes much more sense ty

Didn't count the possibility of other faction demons

[tough haven]

Yeah but the throne is agony and being forced to be alive for 10,000 years really takes a toll out of a guy

and yes

his soul, not his mind

which you could argue was never fulyl there

[fervent gull]

Makes sense

[tough haven]

And your presence in the warp as a deity is based on belief

[fervent gull]

Hm

[tough haven]

and a lot of different people believe different things about the emperor

so it kinda pulls him in a bunch of different directions

[tough haven]

oh, you dont know about the great game?

[fervent gull]

Didn't he actively help roboute at the end of the plague wars tho? That confirms something?

[arctic talon]

its clearly a Psychneuein who has laid eggs in them and wants the Psyker to stay alive/j

[storm jungle]

He has always helped people with deus ex machina moments like that

its a spur of the moment thing

[fervent gull]

No I know it, just didn't count the possibility of like some tzeentch or khorne demon helping inquisition so that nurgle gets weaker on tertium

[arctic talon]

Me when Miracles

[storm jungle]

Me when plot armor

[arctic talon]

we've alwas known the emperor has been somewhat active to an extent

due to miracles

[storm jungle]

I mean Miracles

[arctic talon]

also yeah miracles are just plot armor

and also why Sisters of battle have an invuln save on the tabletop

lol

[storm jungle]

One of the new Iron Warriors shorts has a sister like-

[fervent gull]

What is deus ex machina moments?

[storm jungle]

resurrect an entire fighting group of dead sororitas as faith zombies

[arctic talon]

This is literally just Sorcery

lol

[storm jungle]

basically something happening for no reason randomly to save the protagonist

[arctic talon]

also the chaos gods also have miracles

[storm jungle]

like how Guilliman cannot die

[arctic talon]

we get lore on them in crusade pariah nexus

[storm jungle]

because hes a special character

[arctic talon]

thank you Vashtor

[storm jungle]

so the Emperor just steps in and saves him

[arctic talon]

lol

ngl that was like

comical levels of plot armor

even by 40k standards

[storm jungle]

Yep lol

[fervent gull]

And do you know what exactly is setting nurgle's garden on fire? Was emperor that good at sneaking into nurgle's garden and throwing a lighter into it?

Learning lore is hard for me so my best bet is fellow lore lovers

[arctic talon]

it was an attack on Nurgles garden by the emperor

how effective it is

we dunno, judging by Nurgles actions after

not very lol

[fervent gull]

How did nurgle react tho?

[arctic talon]

we don't know

We know Mortarion got the belt™

[fervent gull]

The belt?

Oh

[arctic talon]

Nurgle in a metaphorical sense beat Mortarion senseless with a belt

And mortarion has been a lot more active in Nurgles name

rather then his own

[fervent gull]

And do you know what happened at morty and roboute duel?
They say emperor possessed roboute and set nurgle's garden on fire
I was like wtf happened that was like 0 to 100 real quick

[arctic talon]

Mortarion almost killed Guilliman

Morty gloated and dragged Gman into Nurgles garden

[fervent gull]

Gloated?

[arctic talon]

Emperor Deus Ex Machina's Gman and saves his life dragging him out the garden

[arctic talon]

Bragged

Mortarion was bragging

I'm being metaphorical

Guilliman gets forced out of the garden

either by nurgle or the emperor

unclear

Mortarion gets dragged into Nurgles mansion

for the assbeating of the century

[fervent gull]

It's still feels like 0 to 100 real quick

But a bit clearer now ty

[storm jungle]

When in doubt read the Lexicanum

the most perfect lore accurate summary you are gonna get

[fervent gull]

[sly ivy]

Yes link here @fervent gull : https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Warhammer_40k_Wiki

I can’t believe I’m being downvoted I have no civil rights in this oppressive regime

And by @arctic talon this is Asian on Asian violence

[arctic talon]

My ancestors would be proud

can you say the same Kaggen

[sly ivy]

My grandfather slept with two swords under his bed

One for honor disputes

One for war

[fervent gull]

What's the deal with the downvotes to his link?

[sly ivy]

Oppression

[fervent gull]

Why?

[sly ivy]

They hate I’m always right

And also unfailingly witty

[arctic talon]

Because the warhammer 40k wiki is bad

[sly ivy]

And good looking

[arctic talon]

well

its not bad

it just literally makes shit up sometimes

lol

Lexicanum is much more accurate

[fervent gull]

🤔

[arctic talon]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

[fervent gull]

Do you know what point lore is on?

After plague wars

The mainstream I mean

[arctic talon]

025.M42 approximately

its been about 10 years

since all the Dark imperium stuff

most of this lore is in warzone/crusade/rulebooks

[sly ivy]

Slashfic and fetish art mostly

It comes from the great rift

[fervent gull]

Wait

Wasn't like plague wars happened 9 years ago?

[sly ivy]

The last Stuff That Mattered was arks of omen

[fervent gull]

And the lore didn't advance after that?

[sly ivy]

.

[fervent gull]

What does it talk about?

[sly ivy]

Lion back Abaddon and Vastorr successfully reconstruct an Old One webway-making device and merge it with a reassembled Caliban then fly off

Sounds like fanfic is not lmao

Part of the device was already on Caliban

[arctic talon]

I’d say the 4th tyrannic war is important lol

There’s a new splinter(?) of leviathan

That’s approaching terra through pacificus lol

[sly ivy]

They’re going off in search of some Old One vault that contains a Mega MacGuffin Weapon

Nah Tyranids r cringe they pose no threat

[fervent gull]

Holy shit these are big events

Gotta look 'em up

[sly ivy]

Yes so Abaddon can now make new webway the original way

[fervent gull]

What

What's original way?

[sly ivy]

Using the original Old One warp entity/construct

That they used to create the Webway in the first place.

[fervent gull]

Chunks of meat

Literally

[sly ivy]

It’s cool because it continues a plot thread started long ago in the Heresy dark angels books

Where we learn there are these weird artifacts associated with Caliban and the DA and the Watchers

[fervent gull]

[sly ivy]

To absolutely no one’s surprise it turns out that Caliban was a key Old One world and they stashed part of their webway-maker on it

Which caused the warp disturbances that created the Great Beasts etc etc

I wonder whether Abaddon’s new clown car is gonna tunnel away and piss off the dark Eldar and that will be narrative tie in for a range refresh

[arctic talon]

Maybe

Vashtorr popped back up with wyrmwood

In the Pariah Nexus

[fervent gull]

[arctic talon]

For reasons

He has plans

[sly ivy]

Yes but assembling the chunks of Caliban into a thing that can do what the Emperor was trying to do for years and years is an s-tier fuck you to several parts of the empire

[fervent gull]

Was he an important character?

[arctic talon]

Well

He’s important to the whole Arks of omen plot line

Lol

[fervent gull]

Hm

What is vashtor exactly?

Like a chaos commander or something else?

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Vashtorr

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[fervent gull]

Oh missed the first paragraph

[plush mason]

gifs you can hear

[sly ivy]

o

Wait so Abaddon wants to be part of this stupid lock key vault etc plan right

How is he supposed to get to Vashtorr if vash is off sailing the web

They’re gonna do all this work to open the Gate to the Most Potent Weapon in the Galaxy and it’s just gonna be the throne room wololololo arrested by custodes and pariahs in 0.2 seconds while all 10,000 of the Emperor’s personality fragments insult their mothers

Somewhere an Eldar trickster god is laughing

[arctic talon]

Abbadon got fucked by Vashtorr lol

Vashtorr held up his end of the deal to the letter

which did not include the vault stuff

just assembling the key

Vashtorr unlike the rest of Chaos is very much lawful

[plush mason]

bro should have specified he wanted to get into the vault

[arctic talon]

yeeeeeeep

lmao

Bro did not specify his deal properly

Vashtorr tore the loophole wide open

[sly ivy]

Superhuman Astartes intelligence

10000 years of experience

Can’t set up a simple contract

[nocturne crest]

So odd question, but did Corpse starch exist in the imperium before the HH started?

[late osprey]

Them writing that Space marines have superhuman intelligence will always not be hilarious to me

[arctic talon]

Yes

Corpse starch is again poverty food

And not the standard

But we know corpse starch was around bcs it’s been on munda since before it got integrated into the imperium

[nocturne crest]

Huh.

[radiant lance]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Maw-fluke

Fighting hive city fauna sounds fun tbh

[dire loom]

[plush mason]

corpse startch is the answer to the problem of "we have too much industry and people, and not enough food sources"

[opaque coyote]

Basically

Vashtorr will make the contract clear

The terms exact

And to the fucking letter

So be sure to get some fellas to act as a lawyer team

Abaddon is an example of not getting a lawyer

Honestly I always love the idea of like a Demon making a deal with somebody and then that somebody just brings a fucking lawyer

As they both go over the contract

[arctic talon]

Dungeons and dragon Hell be like

Remember you can take a devil to court if they violate the contract in any way

[queen laurel]

it is quite funny though why the hell

do they run a contract system

[arctic talon]

Yes

Hell is incredibly lawful in dnd

Absurdly so

They are Lawful evil

[arctic talon]

Also you know Raphael in BG3 right? He technically violates an absurd quantity for the laws of hell by not showing you the contract or giving you its terms

You are well within your rights to steal back the contract and destroy it lol.

[queen laurel]

yeah that's what i always thought too

[queen laurel]

can i sue for a different reward and just give myself the crown then?

[arctic talon]

Or if Larien wanted to be silly they could have made you go to court over it

[arctic talon]

Well Raphael would prolly have something horrific happen to him

For breaking so many laws lol

The contract would be rendered Null and void if you took it to court

Mizora is also pretty nice as a devil

Considering she gives Wyll so many renegs lol

[queen laurel]

yeah it's that it's just unfortunate that he has the power of a god now so he could just bomb the court

[arctic talon]

Well

He’d get put to bed by Asmodeus

permanently

For his actions in that ending lol

Considering he gets greedy and wants more then just Avernus

[queen laurel]

hey at least he gets hit in the head

[arctic talon]

Killing Zariel is fine, she’s a better general then Bel who got deposed before her but maybe Raphael is better at the job

Him deciding to go beyond that

Would get him fucking deleted from existence instantaneously lol

Avernus is prolly full of the most “good” devils

Ironically

[queen laurel]

i'm also sure the other gods won't rather find him funny if he decides to do that

[arctic talon]

Now granted good is a relative term

But the devils are absolutely the lesser evil in dnd compared to demons lol

[arctic talon]

If he tries to take over hell someone’s going to intervene if Asmodeus doesn’t

Lol

[queen laurel]

I mean that's like calling a crime Lord that's relatively peaceful and keeps the peace through fear versus warboss face Ripper of the iron tooth clan

[arctic talon]

Well

I’d say the demons are worse then that

[queen laurel]

Oh of course they are but you know the comparison is there for

ease

[arctic talon]

Vashtorr is fun

I like him

Please add him to AoS

The forge of souls is also in AoS

You know what to do GW

[queen laurel]

Yeah but what main type of thing is he gonna try to govern

oh wait

i forgot dwarves that have airships are a thing

[arctic talon]

Technology still

Just lower tech stuff

Well

Generally lower

[queen laurel]

Yeah I just realized that you have dwarves that use magical substances to fly using metal blimps

[arctic talon]

Also the cities of sigmar

Vashtorr would still apply to cannons and stuff

I’d like to also remind that Hashut is not a god of technology

They’re the chaos god of tyranny and fire

[queen laurel]

Yeah like he's not the God of technology he's just literally bane but way worse

[arctic talon]

Also Minotaur cow thing maybe

Lol

[queen laurel]

i mean have you seen his favorite beasts?

literally fire breathing flying bulls

he's also called the bull god

And his most blessed of dwarfs turn into bull centaurs

[arctic talon]

Anyways please add vashtor to AoS

I just think it would be neat

New soulgrinders + him

[queen laurel]

it would be fun

[arctic talon]

New soulgrinders would serve double duty for both AoS and 40k

And soulgrinders are cool

[queen laurel]

honestly chaos needs some machinery every damn thing they have on AOS is almost related to magic or giant monsters

their most technologically advanced faction is Skaven

[arctic talon]

Yeah I agree

The forge of fuckin souls is in AoS still

Where are their things smh

All chaos has is soulgrinders

Which yeah ig

But I want more

Weird cannons and stuff

[queen laurel]

yeah chaos had a lot of artillery back in warhammer fantasy

[arctic talon]

Well

Artillery is wrong

They had some weirder shit

Iirc it didn’t use normal cannon rules lol

[queen laurel]

the fuck

[arctic talon]

Tbf skaven also used different artillery rules

really bad ones

But they sure were different

Only army where you could kill half your own army with a misfire

[sour hornet]

Can a Daemon Prince take any form they want after ascension?

Could they, theoretically, aura farm?

[plush shuttle]

Yes? But also no

Fulgrim and Magnus have changed forms before, fulgrim once appeared as his legionary self

But also when you ascend the warp is supposed to change you based on your psyche and it's subconscious

And also if your patron god decides that you should be the ugliest piece of garbage ever then you don't really have a say

There's also flesh shaping warp magic

[dire loom]

True, some spike war machines of edginess are needed.

With the occasional body and or skull or flailed body on pike.

[dire loom]

It depends.

[radiant lance]

Can they take the form of a hot goth girl?

[celest dome]

No

Hot goth boy though

[queen laurel]

yo can i ask you question

[celest dome]

Sure

[queen laurel]

if this lady ask you out on a date would you say yes

[celest dome]

Why wouldn't I

[shadow plover]

she's a cop

smh

[queen laurel]

got it you would say yes

[celest dome]

Yes, but like is it a surprise, a trick question

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[queen laurel]

no no worry it's not a trick question no

[crisp heath]

Heck yeah

Nothing like being approached first (im scared of women)

[radiant lance]

I'm really attracted to women (and too scared to talk to them)

[astral burrow]

Battlefield fucks so hard...

[crisp heath]

Battlefield but 40k...

[celest dome]

Not gonna happen

Battlefield is too big to need warhammer as an ip

[queen laurel]

And balancing that **** would be******* hilarious

to balance it out you needed to be guardsmen versus guardsmen

[celest dome]

Oh no, balancing wouldn't be that difficult, would just be Chaos vs Imperium anyway

[crisp heath]

I can dream can't I 😭

[queen laurel]

Yeah but 40K battlefield you would expect the other runts to join in

[crisp heath]

All this being said bf 6 looks hecking gooooood

Going back to there roots

[celest dome]

Well, in fairness ye, but looking at Battlefield (and Battlefront too), they really keep to symmetrical factions

Which here wouldn't work well

[crisp heath]

Sw bf2

That was mu childhood lol

[celest dome]

Rising Storm could be a good basis to develop from