40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

there is no way necromunda had a problem nearly as bad as tertius is having

[arctic talon]

And then secundus got nukes from orbit

[dapper gyro]

Inquisition has so much better element they can call in, calling the Arbiter is like if Terra is under siege for them.

[arctic talon]

An entire hive of genestealers is pretty bad

As in

the entire hive

[crystal forum]

ok that is not an ideal situation

[rotund grove]

arbiters come in because theyre pissed
they don't fix the heretic problem
suprised arbiter pikachu face

[crystal forum]

wait did the hive pretend it was human or something

[dire loom]

It's cool that the Arbites have deep lore in their character creation, that they even have an option that you where the one who captured Wolfer or survived the Tancred Bastion massacre or ambush etc.

[arctic talon]

It was like 98% of the population of the secundus

Was infected

Or hybrids

[crystal forum]

was it an entire hive pretending to be normal

[arctic talon]

Yes

And yes

[crystal forum]

even the elites

the nobles

[arctic talon]

Yep

[crystal forum]

that is funny

[arctic talon]

Most of the uninfected were hive scum

[crystal forum]

hive with a mustache disguise

[outer wave]

Odd tangent question there: can a hivecity be full of just genestealers and no GSC? And if so, what would cause that?

[arctic talon]

Taking over an abandoned hive

[dire loom]

It could escalate, Imperium is known for infighting, game of thrones type skirmishes between imperial noble houses, so long as it doesn't effect the Imperium as a whole too much or it doesn't effect the tithe most importantly. The tithe must flow.

[outer wave]

That sounds almost implausible to think of an entire hive being abandoned, but apparently Tertium is built on top of one so

[dire loom]

We don't talk about what buried deep underground.

[outer wave]

Yeah, that's me with your MOM--

Anyway that makes sense

[dire loom]

🗣️ **Then Adeptus Mechanicus, more abhuman mercenaries, Sisters of battle, Space Marines show up oh wait..

Is that a Death Guard and Gene stealer cult, and Tyranids off in the distance?**

[rotund grove]

I wish they added a new enemy type

[dire loom]

Large scale WAR confirmed, space marines 3 setting confirmed. Battlefield Warhammer 40k confirmed.

[rotund grove]

vermintide added beastmen after a while...

[dire loom]

Peak

20 plus more Warhammer 40k games confirmed

[rotund grove]

well the arbiters wont finish the job due to game logic so the conflict is definitely gonna escalate

[dapper gyro]

BattleHammer 40K sounds cooler

[dire loom]

Based and Lex pilled

[dire loom]

Yeah, I agree. That's why I think they'll add more new classes. People want new enemy types too etc. Unless they wrap story things up for Darktide 2 etc.

Which I hope they just keep supporting Darktide long term and just keep adding more story and stuff to Darktide.

Darktide 2 can wait

[rotund grove]

disregarding the neophyte though, a tech priest/skitarii as next class is way more possible tbh

or another abhuman to pair with the Ogryn

A Skitarii sounds mega fun thinking about it

[nocturne crest]

Would there be different play styles based on augmentations?

Like, you get to become the long boy.

[rotund grove]

I'd imagine every keystone would be a different augment

with appearance changes

[storm jungle]

no

[opaque coyote]

Hello chat

[opaque coyote]

I always thought that weapons for them would be augments

Like imagine being able to use mechandendrites as melee weapons

Slap a heretic with an extra metal arm

Maybe unique grenades also

With them not needing an animation, it just fires out from a cannon or something in their body

[opaque coyote]

Seriously though imagine like those fucking fast beatdowns

But with like four arms

[nocturne crest]

Odd question, but can the Sydonian Skatros kick enemies with their long legs?

[dapper gyro]

Slap them with your 3rd leg.

[arctic talon]

Yes

[storm jungle]

its basically a walker and very nimble so yes

[dire loom]

Servitor class would be cool. IMHO

It's simple, and easy to implement. Plus it's humble and wholesome archetype.

[opaque coyote]

Had a funny idea where when you delete a character

You get to find them as a servitor

[dire loom]

🗣️ Based and Lex pilled

[opaque coyote]

Tbh combat servitor does sound like an interesting class potentially.

The problem is that part of Darktide 's charm is the dialogue

A servitor doesn't exactly have dialogue that's interesting

[dire loom]

The vendor servitor guy talks decent amount.

[opaque coyote]

It'd either be emotionless or screams for death

[dire loom]

Could be a good catalyst.

[opaque coyote]

Either way a part I love about Darktide is how the characters interact with each other

And a Servitor isn't exactly able to do that

I still think the Mechanicus route is the way to go

Primarily because the Mechanicus has some unique toys

Phosphorus's bigger brother

[dire loom]

For Adeptus Mechanicus, I hope we get Magos voice option or that one blue eye tech priest. Their voices are peak!

[opaque coyote]

Phosphex

Now with extra flesh melting!

[opaque coyote]

One of the punishments of the Mechanicus is getting your technology stripped from you

[dire loom]

Oh no! Not the toaster!!

[opaque coyote]

So I always thought that a good way to start off

And explain why you only have like a Lasgun or something

[dire loom]

True

Class exclusive weaponry would be very good too.

[opaque coyote]

Is simple. You are in disgrace and got all your technology stripped from you. Only enough left to keep you alive and moving.

Would also fit the reject part well

[dire loom]

The path of redemption.

We must all redeem ourselves in-game story. Basically.

[opaque coyote]

I haven't seen the new cutscenes and shit yet

Yet.

[opaque coyote]

I still find it fitting that we literally do things that space Marines would struggle with

But we barely even get recognized

Like in other games, I would call that bullshit

But it fits 40k specifically

[vagrant fox]

If it wasn't for the arbites showing up I'd have liked to see the Collegiate Extremis

[dire loom]

True, sometimes you need a scalpel instead of a large hammer.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah of course they would treat the 4 people that can kill Chaos Spawn along with a horde of poxwalkers with complete disdain.

It's the Imperium

That probably happens all the fucking time

Actual people that deserve a higher position get ignored

While shithead commissar #191910 somehow is failing up in the ladder

It happens a lot irl.

It definitely happens in the Imperium

It's probably a way on how Chaos gets followers

[nocturne crest]

Would the admech have their own version of the Arco-Flagellant?

[opaque coyote]

It is administered by the Mechanicus

So

The Arco-Flaggellants are basically their invention

It's just that the Ecclesiarchy have the authority to punish you with it.

[dapper gyro]

One of the arbitrator said about shoveling the waste of the tempestus scions... It is so accurate.

[nocturne crest]

So if we had a heretek, maybe we could have an option to turn them into Arco-Flaggellants

[dapper gyro]

Because while you need to be smart to be an arbiter, the scions are still considered higher tier.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that is one.

But that's a punishment where there's no way to "redeem" besides death.

The rejects technically have other avenues

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if there is a way to bring in Xenos weaponry into darktide.

[nocturne crest]

Huh.

[dire loom]

@opaque coyote 🗣️ I'm just humble and wholesome Arbitrator, and the Inquisitors get all the credit!

Scions and Inquisitors taking all the glory while I do all the work..

🫵

[sour hornet]

++ Duty is its own reward. ++

[sour hornet]

Well, Scions are military, whereas Arbitrators need to be physically capable, mentally capable, and knowledgeable of the Lex Imperalis, all at the same time.

There's a reason both get similar equipment, just tailored to different roles.

[opaque coyote]

Due to our main supplier and ship owner being a rogue trader

And the desperation of the situation

Yeah Xenos weapons could be brought in

Although tbh I wouldn't want that currently.

Despite how cool using a T'au Pulse Rifle would be

We got plenty more Imperial Toys

[cunning mango]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/space-marine/master-crafted-edition-refunds

Rip lmao

[dapper gyro]

But that's the thing with the imperium. The military is just more important.

The judge can be police as much as they want, but the imperium will always sweep with the military in the end. Therefore they place the scion on a more important priority.

[sour hornet]

I guess, but its like saying they're "more important" than the Commissariat or Sisters. Sorta? They're for different roles. Scions are military important, yes, but they take orders, and do not give them like the Commissariat or Arbites.

You can be top of your Scholam class and be funneled into Sororitas, Arbites, Scions or the Commissariat depending on your character traits.

[winged jacinth]

Im pretty sure the line about scion latrines is a vet line, i definitely heard it before the dlc

[sour hornet]

I was going to say, I've heard a lot of arbites dialog, and that doesn't come up.

[winged jacinth]

An arbites wouldn't be in a position to shovel scion latrines

If they were to fight together it would be somewhere like atoma with toilets

Whereas its totally likely for a rando guard vet to have deployed with them to some wilderness

[celest dome]

They usually prefer Arco-Evicerators

[celest dome]

The weapons we get are through Brunt, which is part of the Inquisition, and they use an Admech Tech Priest as the weapon modification system, that would be quite strange if they had her work on Xenos weapons

[winged jacinth]

how many ways does the admech even have to turn people into crazed killing machines? there has to be dozens

[celest dome]

Arco Evi
Arco Flagellant
Time-Gladiator
Various Explosive Servitors
The Sister walkers

Tech Thralls

[queen laurel]

my mechanicus friend explaining what we can do to the random guy we hit in the head with a stick

[celest dome]

I mean if they are brain dead it's only Servitorisation

All the other need some form of sentience

[celest dome]

Anyone has ever heard of genecoded Bolters ?

[opaque coyote]

Y'know the funniest thing is that Anakin probably would've pulled a similar move back in the clone wars

[rapid robin]

I am told the last part is slightly debatable

Given the wide range of interpreting edicts, don’t they just boil it down to “hey that looks like heresy” and acts accordingly?

[queen laurel]

you mean?

genetic identification?

[celest dome]

Oh so it's just 1 type of Bolts that cam have it

[queen laurel]

nope it's feature that can be implanted in a bolter

[celest dome]

But isn't always present

[sour hornet]

No.

They'll straight up ignore shit unless it intersects with the Lex in terms of disrupting the Tithe, manufactory outputs, etc. Where crime gets serious enough to warrant their intervention, rather than just being a case of interfactional crime is where their training comes in.

You have sone arbitrators that are like “Hey, that looks like heresy. Blam!” But they kinda have the Inquisitors dilemma of "is it worth pushing our weight around to investigate cases that could potentially have serious blowback."

They need to be judicious yet discretionary at their job.

Given that some worlds have like maybe a dozen arbitrators maximum. A few might have just a single one.

[queen laurel]

yes

[sour hornet]

How does a gene-coded bolter recognize its user if they wear full-body, hermetically-sealed suits of armor?

[rapid robin]

Vibes

[shadow plover]

digital connection to the suit of the wearer which then does have a connection to whatever way they want to know the gene-id or whatever, right?

[rapid robin]

That sounds more likely

Actually, what is the state of digital technology in warhammer as far as IT is concerned?

[shadow plover]

barely understood

it's there

[celest dome]

Depend on a world to world basis

But largely abysmal

[rapid robin]

I think I get it

[green loom]

It just works

[proven needle]

Gene ID in a gun is a hilariously unrealistic idea, but it's 40k so whatever.

[celest dome]

It can make sense in the cases of Judge Dredd

Where the cop is around people who don't have guns

[proven needle]

No, I mean, if you consider what would actually be needed to sequence and compare at a DNA level, then it's ridiculous. The feature makes sense but then make it a fingerprint.

[tough haven]

Treated as a combination of holy providence and arcane knowledge, it’s secrets are closely guarded, and many have been forgotten

The simplest action on a piece of basic tech takes upward of 30-45 minutes of ritual to undergo, for fear of angering the “machine spirit” that dwells within it and causes it to function

[median star]

how do titans get to battlefields are they unloaded then walk their way there or do they just get dropped straight in the shit

[tough haven]

Carried in on huge mass carriers

Then dropped off with their support elements

[tough haven]

Probably is a finger print, they just make it sound really complex

[golden imp]

Can knights spar against other knights?

Like I’m wondering how they train to become better pilots but I’m unsure how without tons of repairs

[tough haven]

100%

On some knight worlds they fight to the death to train

[storm jungle]

Carried on cargo-trucks

like, how do you think lol

[median star]

big truck

[storm jungle]

🫡

[median star]

how many miles to the gallon

[storm jungle]

Go google it

[tough haven]

About 2

[median star]

maybe ill google how to explode u with my brain aswell

[storm jungle]

You can try, and fail

[tough haven]

Speaking of rannick, do interrogators have any form of identification to prove they are who they say they are, when operating away from their inquisitor?

Inquisitors have the identification codes and protocols on their rosette

But interrogators don’t get a rosette

[dapper gyro]

It is funny because it comes from my arbitrator.

However, sometimes the characters use the voice lines for orgryn when talking to arby, which confuse me a bit.

[storm jungle]

Depends on anything you can make up

[storm jungle]

Some do

its just handwaved, add whatever you want to it

[tough haven]

Not sure if I want to do the whole “how can we trust you, and really be sure you’re an interrogator?” Or not yet

On one hand it opens more interesting interactions than just “yes my lord, we’ll do anything you say”

But it could get tedious

[storm jungle]

It would depend on the people in question

you can definitely tell an Interrogator from their mannerisms and such

compared to like some jumped up hiver pretending to be one

[sly ivy]

They have special inquisitorial brands on their left asscheeks

Source I’m the sanctioned ass-brander

The notopygius

Some people call me notopygius rex

I see u have been stunned into silence by this revelation

Many such cases

I assure u I am gentle but firm

[tough haven]

“Oh so you’re an interrogator are ya? Pull down your pants and bend over then…”

[tough haven]

Until the interrogator in question is Longinus Crackpipe, interrogator extraordinaire, specializing in hive city investigations who, coincidentally looks exactly like a jumped up underhiver

He’s addicted to six different drugs that together mostly cancel each other out

Actually I love this character even though he’s a joke

[winged jacinth]

Interrigator to Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Costeau

[celest dome]

Anakin Watson...

Gagnan

[proven needle]

In "Master Imus' Transgression", Eisenhorn is still an interrogator and he has a Rosette. So your statement is not universally true.

[tough haven]

Nothing is with the inquisition

[winged jacinth]

Interrogators dont get their own rosettes but it is fairly common for them to be given (copies of?) Their master's rosette

Since they work like police badges and master keys

[sly ivy]

I saw an adult novelty company once that would do this in chocolate

[tough haven]

For rosettes right? Right??

[sly ivy]

☺️

[sly ivy]

I like that inquisitorial agents are sort of permitted to indulge in vices because they’re so valuable and bc who is gonna call them on it

[tough haven]

Fr

[sly ivy]

It’s narratively interesting

Same with nobility I guess but the arbites or inq could still get em

And the inquisition is allowed to indulge in borderline forbidden warpcraft whereas nobles certainly are not

Not sure who watches the navigator houses

I imagine their people see shit. A lot of shit. That includes all kinds of immaterial temptation.

There’s probably an ordo minoris branch dedicated to it.

[winged jacinth]

as i understand it the navigators are mostly self-regulating?

they're unusually independent

[sly ivy]

……. sus

Def an inquisition branch dedicated to watching the filthy mutants

[storm jungle]

Its not that unusual, they make sure the entirety of the Imperium is warp-jump capable.

Thus they got a political monopoly on the whole thing

even the Emperor was aware of how shitty this was lol

[winged jacinth]

tfw i put CHOAM in my setting

[storm jungle]

^ real

[winged jacinth]

its different though they have 3 eyes instead of being fish shaped

[storm jungle]

well

[winged jacinth]

i assume the only reason they dont need drugs for warp travel is its already complicated enough

[storm jungle]

Navigators in 40k also heavily mutate the more they use their powers, thus eventually turning into Dune-like monstrosities that get locked in the family estate basement, the bonus being you get to have anything you want and live the rest of your life in decadence and sometimes pulling political strings as an elder

[winged jacinth]

i honestly dont remember why the Dune navigators are like that

i think its a preexisting condition?

we never see any navigators outside their spice tanks without dying

[storm jungle]

its due to the spice melange

[young pecan]

I just thought they were more prone to mutation at birth, never knew it was from using their powers

[storm jungle]

yeah its explained in some novels

Cassia also tells it to you in rogue trader

its why the oldest members of a Nav. House are the most mutated

[young pecan]

Reminder #847 to finish Rogue Trader

[winged jacinth]

they are also more prone to mutation at birth

[young pecan]

Need to restart at this point

[winged jacinth]

probably because they can get away with living as mutants instead of being shot in the crib

afaik they mostly start out looking weird and get worse

though i suppose its a bit of a question of "is it a mutation or is it a consistent abhuman trait"

[plush mason]

its a consistent trait thus they are classed as abhumans

not that the imperium could afford to not class them as such

the navis nobility have the imperium by the balls just as much as the spacer guild does in dune

[winged jacinth]

i mean the third eye is an abhuman trait

i forgot the navigator gene is recessive so they're inbred to shit

[plush mason]

yup

its a fragile gene so any non navigator blood could wipe it out

[winged jacinth]

a lot of them have a bit of the innsmouth look but i guess most of it is that they're this guy

[plush mason]

yeah

[late osprey]

In the RT game you're given a special interrogator dagger that's said to be melted into a rosette upon promotion

So that would be my bet for a consistent answer

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/B_28PFlQGhU?si=Q60gu0GsCIz-LYyE sweet, they chose Ian for this vid

[winged jacinth]

i think ign thinks fire warriors are robots lol

[storm jungle]

Holy shit

Ian is moving up in the world lmao

[arctic talon]

I LOVE IAN

[storm jungle]

🗣️

also

"How powerful is a space marine?"
"About as powerful as they need for the plot to happen."

Fucking goat lmao

[winter vessel]

that's why i like him too, he tells it like it is while maintaining that scholarly behavior. "Frankness: cut that BS"

[storm jungle]

Same, hes the only loretuber I know who also bluntly makes clear of the IRL implications/history of some lore pieces as well.

for example his one video making clear the picture people associate with Obiwan Sherlock Clossue is not actually him lol

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFIxf2gTg_k Dark Eldar music be like

[outer wave]

Odd question: the maggots that stem from Nurgle's daemonic entities and life like The Phase Tree: are they also part of his magic, or are they native life that so happen to take advantage of the situation?

[celest dome]

deamonic beasts

[outer wave]

Damn

Thought they'd be funny lil mundane guys

[opaque coyote]

They still are

Just also Daemonic beasts

We call this phenomenon Scrunky (tm)

[outer wave]

The Scrunkilers....

[rocky gale]

Nice

[arctic talon]

Sea elf time

[rocky gale]

Definitely grabbing that first one

Wonder what that base size is

[sly ivy]

First one looks good

Others still vaguely ass

[rocky gale]

Na they're great

[sly ivy]

Objectively false but not everyone can b right all the time like me

It’s a curse really

[arctic talon]

Looks like a 50 or 60 to me

[rocky gale]

Damn

[arctic talon]

I could be wrong

[rocky gale]

Much to big for a Drukhari proxy then

[arctic talon]

Hm…

It looks too wide

[rocky gale]

Would be a Baller Beastmaster

[arctic talon]

To be a 40 is why

Tbh

But maybe I’m wrong

[forest moat]

Red corsairs> black legion

[hallow saddle]

i would agree with that

soyjak abaddon vs chad huron

imagine being part of chaos but being obsessed with orgganising shit like abby

just embrace chaos bro

[forest moat]

I like the black legion as well I just think space pirates are cool

Also kinda think red corsairs might be from ultramarine lineage

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-boop-vulkan-snoot-boop-the-snoot-gif-19967530

[forest moat]

They have that same jack of all trades thing going on just in the most chaos way and they also tried to make their own version of ultramar

[sly ivy]

How does it feel 4 this 2 b a possibility? I’ve never known and always wondered.

[mossy peak]

how many people are on a rogue traders ship

[rocky gale]

Lots

[languid meadow]

As many as the plot needs

[sly ivy]

None warhammer isn’t real silly

Ok really though both Darktide and Rogue Trader seem to have the RTs using Imperial Navy frigates.

So crew would be on the order of 20-30,000

I’m not sure anything smaller and less formidable than a navy frigate would survive as a lone operative in the 40K galaxy

[rocky gale]

Rogue Traders generally have multiple ships though, their wealth and crews are basically just abstract concepts because they've got so much

[wintry scarab]

Random little oof moment. Im pretty sure Jasper Kyd isnt working on Borderlands 4. Wonderlands didnt have him on and i thought that the music was kinda crap so it aint looking good for those who care for borderlands ngl

[paper haven]

Even the small ships have crews of around twenty thousand people.

[forest moat]

In the rogue trader game I’ve seen there’s multiple times you have to put down uprisings in ur own ship so just imagine how many ppl there would be for uprisings to occur

[paper haven]

Void born (People born on space ships) almost never actually leave the ship they were born on.

[forest moat]

Also true

Also forgot the people on the lower levels basically that’s just all they know for their whole life

[opaque coyote]

I always wonder how

Fucking trippy it would be for like

A voidborn that lived their entire life in a ship

The ship crashes for whatever reason

On a planet similar to current Earth.

They survive

Imagine getting out into a planet

And seeing a sun for the first time

Nature

The birds chirping

[forest moat]

Imagine the final boss of the game is typhus

[storm jungle]

Wasnt even gonna play the game but now I cant even listen to the soundtrack, rip

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I still think that a Plague Marine boss would go hard

But again, it'd be after a while

[forest moat]

No it definitely would

[opaque coyote]

I definitely don't think it would be Typhus specifically though because of the primary theme of the game

[forest moat]

Nah typhus was a joke

Planet would be trashed

[opaque coyote]

Being that the Rejects, in any other book, series, etc. would be a background character

[opaque coyote]

Also this lmao

[forest moat]

In Arbites chat we were just talking abour how a squad of our rejects could kill a single marine ngl

[opaque coyote]

But yeah I think either a Plague Marine or Word Bearers would be reasonable.

[forest moat]

It would depend on the warband in my opinion

[opaque coyote]

Given that we have killed Beasts of Nurgle and Chaos Spawn

[forest moat]

I really don’t think we could beat a plague marine ngl

[opaque coyote]

We probably can kill a marine

[forest moat]

Shooting them would release gas and flies that would kill us

[opaque coyote]

Plague Marine or a Word Bearer would be plausible

Word Bearers sometimes goes alone to spread Chaos

[forest moat]

I kinda don’t see plague marine

[opaque coyote]

Also it would be fucking wicked for the build up.

Imagine a Word Bearer Marine basically giving a sermon while we kill a bunch of Cultists

[forest moat]

I’m taking my chance with a Khornate marine

[mossy peak]

that’s the exact reason i was asking i just broke up a strike on the lower decks

[forest moat]

Oh yeah stuff like that is common in 40k

Chaos ships are even worse

[opaque coyote]

And then when we finally arrives he finally says something like

"...Amen."

Closes the book

"I see that you have made it. Warriors of the Corpse Emperor."

[forest moat]

Some chaos ships will literally fuck with it’s inhabitants

They basically are alive

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I have zero idea how you can even navigate through a Chaos Ship's interior

[forest moat]

One world eaters shipmaster actually merged with her ship

[opaque coyote]

Even ignoring the fact that a lot of them are

• alive
• several daemons are around
• there is probably no solid pathway/structure

They often have just a ton of nasty shit in them

Even the non-nurgle ones

[forest moat]

Don’t forget most times the lower decks have genestealer cults

[opaque coyote]

Like blood, random guts, random spikes, etc.

[forest moat]

But all ships have to worry about that

[mossy peak]

aren’t a lot of them just entirely rusted out

[arctic talon]

Chaos ships? it depends

[forest moat]

Regardless

[mossy peak]

terminus est

[arctic talon]

Terminus est is nurglite

its uh

[opaque coyote]

For a good amount yeah, but that's the least of your problems.

[arctic talon]

a lot more then just rusted out

lol

[opaque coyote]

But regardless even an undivided ship would be a hazard to your health

Like I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the slaves deaths

[forest moat]

Oh yeah especially undivided

[opaque coyote]

Are simply the slaves tripping on somebody's fucking guts

And then dying cause they fell on the several spikes that are around

[arctic talon]

behold

terminus est

in all its uh

glory

[forest moat]

That’s not even mentioning black ships and all the stuff they get into on those

[mossy peak]

how does that thing even fly(?)

[opaque coyote]

I think the worst part is that it's human colored and yet all the shit covering it looks like fur

It's probably moss

Tbh

[forest moat]

Looks hungry

[arctic talon]

those teeth prolly nash

[opaque coyote]

Chaos

[arctic talon]

It has engines still

[opaque coyote]

Nurgle is all about decay and life

The ship probably has a fucking mind of it's own

Probably constantly screaming in agony. Unable to be heard because space.

[forest moat]

Usually the bridge and all the buttons are like flesh and stuff too it’s really neat

[opaque coyote]

I'm just imagining a guidebook to any new slave that just gives specific rules

Loke

"Don't walk into the heart room. It will immediately assume you're trying to kill it and eviscerate your soul."

Not because they care

But because you gotta have some people still alive to "maintain" the ship

[forest moat]

Ngl darktide in general could be a black legion operation

The buck has to stop somewhere so to say

[opaque coyote]

Probably not, but I can assume the lore "Dark Tide" might be.

Since the Atoma soldiers are sent to fight a force that is implied to be Chaos.

But of course, the soldiers don't know that

[forest moat]

That’s what I mean like maybe black legion pulling the strings behind the scenes

Since they retconned a lot of stuff to have black legion moving like the alpha legion basically

[opaque coyote]

Maybe but the Black Legion dreams really big. A random system is probably not on their priority list.

[still coral]

A single ogryn could take on a marine

[forest moat]

Facts

[forest moat]

Oh of course

They are just outright naturally stronger

[opaque coyote]

True.

But the Marine would still usually an Ogryn due to experience and skill.

Ogryns are naturally stronger but they aren't uh

[still coral]

Smart

[opaque coyote]

Graceful or smart

A lot of their weapons are intentionally made to take as much abuse as possible

[forest moat]

I read about one that was actually super smart I forgot his name though

Had to be scary to be around though

[opaque coyote]

There are a couple in general

[still coral]

I think it was your mom

[opaque coyote]

There's a female Psyker Ogryn.

[still coral]

Bruh

[forest moat]

Exterminatus on ur neighborhood

[mossy peak]

woketide 💔

[forest moat]

I was just wondering earlier what’s the deal with female ogryn like do they not let them fight in their culture or what

[still coral]

Are female ogryns a rarity or smth

Or did they just not put them in darktide

[opaque coyote]

There's also Clodde and Baggit (must read).

Where Clodde mostly acts like a typical Ogryn.

But due to him being shot, he is extremely verbose and self aware.

Yeah apparently getting shot in the head made the Ogryn more intelligent.

[forest moat]

Imagine the imperium tries to draft female ogryn and theres a ogryn revolt

[still coral]

Its like Mulan but everyone is a hulking muscular human

[forest moat]

Lmaoo

[rose thorn]

And there is like 2 in necromudna

[opaque coyote]

From The Wraithbone Phoenix.

"One minute," Clodde said, "and that officium woulda been surrounded with servitors, sentry-skulls, the lot."

Baggit snapped at him. "We'd have got out. We always bloody do, don't we?" Clodde heard him mutter under his breath. "Could have given that scutchbag everything he deserved, an' all."

Clodde frowned.

"I cannot claim to possess much in the way of tactical nous," he said, "but I reckon that if an armed agent with a hostile ogryn in tow had been reported in the vicinity, then sentry protocols would likely necessitate the use of multiple heavy breacher units, deployed in a rapid-aggression pattern to pacify without resort to negotiation. Flanks and exits would be covered by sentry-skulls, obviously, while the absence of adjacent buildings onto which we might abscond means our chances of a successful escape would require us to mobilise a far greater arsenal than a laspistol and a parchment cabinet full of piss."

Clodde is said Ogryn btw. That bullet really gave him a boost in intelligence.

Yes this series is fucking funny

[opaque coyote]

We have no idea. We have no art/depictions on them

We do know that they at least look somewhat different from males.

We know they exist

But that's it

As far as we know, the Ogryn you use is female

[arctic talon]

no, they're around 50% of the population of ogryns lol

[winter vessel]

That was close

Lol

[arctic talon]

no

the ogryns we play as are all male

[mossy peak]

truth nuke

[opaque coyote]

Yeah mainly a joke.

It's just the fact that we really don't have any art.

We do have some descriptions that say they're somewhat different in terms of looks.

[rose thorn]

It’s just too socially unacceptable to have a giant lady with a Severe mental handicapped get melted by terrorist bio weapons then a male one

[sour hornet]

Why don't our chaos spawns go this hard?

[opaque coyote]

Nah you see.

The enemy are the ones that will get melted.

Jokes aside that's probably why

Men being ugly is just slightly more acceptable than an ugly female

Also the mentally handicapped part does not help

Personally I still want depictions of female Ogryns.

I mean they'd probably look similar regardless

Just give them lipstick. There we go

[forest moat]

I think ogryn probably do not send their women off to war

And that is why we do not see them

[opaque coyote]

Possibly. But it's not like Ogryns have the cognitive function to decide that.

[forest moat]

Very much true

It’s an interesting topic

[opaque coyote]

Again, although it goes against some lore evidence

My personal headcanon is that

Female Ogryns look and sound the exact same to the naked eye

Only people who are trained or other Ogryns can tell the difference

[forest moat]

Maybe just maybe there was one out there smart enough to give them some baseline things they can’t do when they joined the imperium

[forest moat]

This would also be very cool

[opaque coyote]

It's like how Alligators and Crocodiles look the same at a glance

But are very different if you know what to spot

Or like how females and males are kinda similar if you think about it broadly

Like if some alien looked at us they'd definitely have trouble differentiating

We don't because it's part of our instinct

I imagine Ogryns would be similar

[forest moat]

Definitely true I’ve thought about that same thing yesterday when I was wondering why there was no female ogryn class

Like if they really wanted to they could just add some long hair options LOL

[opaque coyote]

Lipstick

My favorite

[forest moat]

But then they would be them confirming the look of female ogryn

Would be funny for the lipstick to be done poorly

[opaque coyote]

Tbf long hair and lipstick are things that males can do

And have done before in culture

[forest moat]

Facts

[opaque coyote]

So basically it's up to you

I also have a headcanon that Felinds basically have a "summer" and "winter" coat

Basically

They switch between being the generic anime catgirl but with long claws

To full on furry

Depending on the temperature of the planet

[forest moat]

Is so hard to find felind lore

[opaque coyote]

Tbf that's because there's barely any

[forest moat]

Exactly

[opaque coyote]

GW are too busy making SM Bolter porn

[forest moat]

Need more

[opaque coyote]

[forest moat]

I do love marines tho ngl

[opaque coyote]

There is a description from a kroot

[forest moat]

They were my gateway into the universe

[opaque coyote]

Saying that Felinds are dangerous as shit

[opaque coyote]

I doubt anybody here hates Marines

Maybe a specific chapter

Or even archetype

But not the entirety of Space Marines

[forest moat]

Some people really really don’t like them and the attention they get

But I usually see it on like YouTube

[opaque coyote]

I mean tbf that might be because of the attention

I think generally everybody agrees that they're quite oversaturated

[forest moat]

But it’s like SOMETHING has to be the selling point

Do they not realize last

That

[opaque coyote]

That is also true.

Spartans are the selling point for Halo

I still would like more Xenos stuff though

Like the T'au

I love what there is

[forest moat]

Yeah I need tau stuff like I need air

[opaque coyote]

But having more of their Auxiliaries would get way more people into them

Similar to Halo's Covenant

Since like isn't that their main difference between every other faction?

[forest moat]

Like there’s humans in the tau empire I need to know about them

[opaque coyote]

That they don't immediately kill anybody they meet?

[forest moat]

Votaan need some shine too

[opaque coyote]

Definitely

[opaque coyote]

There is some fun T'au lore

The Kroot is actually really interesting

[forest moat]

Yeah they definitely have some stuff

More than others

[opaque coyote]

Fun fact, apparently for human ears

T'au music fucking sucks ass

Because they have lower hearing ranges

[forest moat]

Lmaooo

[opaque coyote]

So to humans it basically sounds like a flat tone

[forest moat]

Tau got a minor warp god too

[opaque coyote]

Imagine being on a date and then the restaurant plays shit like this: https://youtu.be/iJYvCHm3Ov4?si=Caulm3QsH7O-ipy3

[sly ivy]

U mean bc Tau are just a little shit at most things

[forest moat]

They have good tech

[sly ivy]

Do they

[forest moat]

I mean

[sly ivy]

Do they

[forest moat]

It’s alright LMAOOO

[sly ivy]

I don’t see a single Gothic arch or vat grown baby

In the whole lot

[forest moat]

they can defend themselves reliably

[opaque coyote]

Yesn't.

The T'au have a higher floor compared to the Imperium.

But the Imperium has random bullshit they can pull out

[forest moat]

Yes the tau aren’t against improving tech

[opaque coyote]

Problem is that half of their technology they can't reproduce

And the other half they barely even know how it works

[forest moat]

So even if it’s worse rn

It will get better

[opaque coyote]

I generally think that if there is one thing the Imperium solidly outpaces the T'au on

[sly ivy]

I note again

[opaque coyote]

It's biology

[forest moat]

Manpower too

[opaque coyote]

Like you said, no cloning vats and shit

[sly ivy]

Robo babies and some shit that requires millions of human sacrifices

Tau can’t compare

[forest moat]

Wait is manpower considered apart of biology

[opaque coyote]

Yes

[forest moat]

Lmaooo

[opaque coyote]

No

Idk

Lo

Yesn't

But basically I think the only thing that actually outpaces the Imperium in terms of like

Genetic editing

[sly ivy]

Tyranids

[opaque coyote]

Is the Dark Eldar.

The Necrons don't count because they aren't even biological anymore.

[forest moat]

From what I understand in the limited engagements we ran into some problems with tau crisis suits

[opaque coyote]

Also that, but it's mostly genetic and I'm not sure if that counts as knowledge

I guess I'll count it

I don't think the Craftworlders have much in biology stuff though

Or genetic editing

[sly ivy]

To be real tho Imperium is the only faction that has both psychic potential + salvaged Old One tech + Old One influence in history and also an enslaved C’tan

And prob the most powerful material psyker to exist since the war in heaven.

But none of it works that well or all the time

[forest moat]

It’s True but I wouldn’t sleep on the amount of imperium tech that gets into tau hands from defectors

The plus the tau will always have is that they will work with others

[sly ivy]

They’re a good lore addition but will always be bit players.

Tech def has a higher floor but an infinitely lower ceiling

Esp without warpcraft

[forest moat]

Real

They are babies right now

On the galactic scale

If this were stellaris I would conquer them

[sly ivy]

Given that it’s impressive they’ve managed to hold on this long

And I like the ironic or tragic symmetry between their ethos and the Imperium’s. In the Imperium too all the savagery and grotesque cruelty and sacrifice is supposed to be understood as being for the greater good.

[rose thorn]

trying to morally decide if i should quote the sevator lex for my essay about ablism

tldr someone used a servator as a proper rep for disabled people and my paper is about violence against a cutlure i witnessed this week

[paper haven]

Too bad the Tau are pretty much guaranteed to have an AI rebellion

Assuming the tyrannids or daemons don't get them first.

[tough haven]

They treat their AI well though

[paper haven]

I seriously doubt it will make a difference.

[naive cliff]

The Emperor’s wisdom guides us both within 40K, and without.

[rose thorn]

i really dont want to act like im a good secodn hadn source explaining servitors in my paper about ablism

[naive cliff]

*not intended as legal advice🤣

[rose thorn]

lmao

im already reading World of Warcraft lore for this and i severly regret it

this is waht i get for spending my week online

[dapper gyro]

Warcraft lore is quite cool until Legion...

[naive cliff]

It is an interesting question ya know. Is the Imperium actually more inclusive than us because they will use anybody (or any part of anybody) if it’s available?

[rose thorn]

when was kirin tor give a wheelchair

[tough haven]

You are all equally grist for the mill

[rose thorn]

no, tahts called slavery

[tough haven]

But conversely

if you are disabled, like say you need a wheelchair

if you arent someone important, you are just gonna be disposed of

[outer wave]

If you're rich, you could get cool implants for that

Probably

[tough haven]

If you cant afford implants, guess youll die

[rose thorn]

im getting the war within patch is when kirin was given his wheelchair

[tough haven]

Or hope some back alley doc can give you some shitty leg replacement

[outer wave]

Guaranteed they'll charge 100x more than the average doc

[naive cliff]

Disposal means glorious service as a door opening servitor

[dapper gyro]

Security camera servitor

[paper haven]

Generally replacement limbs seem readily available. If for no other reason than your labor is needed to keep production up

[rose thorn]

OKAY CAN CONFIRM IT WAS THE 11.0.7 PATCH THANK FUCK

[naive cliff]

Jokes aside, I can’t remember if it’s addressed in the lore. What exactly happens to people who can’t work

[dapper gyro]

Elimination

[paper haven]

Servitor

[dapper gyro]

Organ donor

So many things really

[paper haven]

Or conscription, in some cases. Need a job? Welcome to the guard.

Legs don't work. Not an issue we'll get you new legs

[dapper gyro]

Not even the guard, just the planetary defense.

[paper haven]

Either way, unemployment is way down.

[storm jungle]

Useless, so outright killed or just servitorized

human life does not really matter to the Imperium

[outer wave]

Human life is currency to the Imperium, and it has alot of spare change

Fuck that was a hard ass line

[rose thorn]

bruh i cant stomach reading more about wow

[nocturne crest]

I wonder how much of the imperium stuff relies on Kamikaze tactics?

[paper haven]

Luckily, imperial tech does allow for someone to be made useful in most cases.

[vagrant fox]

what did gw mean by this

[rose thorn]

i know in th ebooks i read mentioning the airforce, it isnt great since the planes take a while to build. So its mostly done to save missiosn and stuff

[vagrant fox]

yeah it happens, it just doesn't get pictured a lot

[tough haven]

I imagine if you're absolutely fucked regardless, many people will take the suicide tactic, if only out of spite

[paper haven]

In the animation about no ammo, a plane does purposely crash into an Ork fighta

[tough haven]

Martyrs are the keystone of the imperium

[vagrant fox]

Blessed are the martyrs

[paper haven]

So, it definitely happens. I just don't know if there's a doctrine specifically around it. Generally speaking, crashing a plane on purpose is to be avoided

[outer wave]

It's that bad, huh?

[paper haven]

Now, using prisoners as single-use minesweepers? Saves rations.

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-that-belongs-in-a-museum-museum-gif-14637744

[winter vessel]

My eyes hurt

[rose thorn]

its jsut hell to findout waht the fuck im looking at

[nocturne crest]

Also, new idea for Darktide character class: Scum.

[outer wave]

The lore hasn't been summarized in any cohesive way?

[paper haven]

Oh man. Wow.
I played it for a little bit in high school. Then they added pandas. Then Wow classic was announced.
And now, just. What?

[rose thorn]

tldr my paper is about ablism i witnessed in resposne to a wow 4chan post

i was supposed to write about discrimination i witnessed and i forgot to go outside

its fucking hot and i dotn talk to ppl

so now im deligated to writing about twitter

[paper haven]

That is. Profoundly tragic.

[rose thorn]

at least im not doing mypaper on racism in csgo or something

[humble shoal]

Tbf racism in csgo isnt actually as bad as advertised (unless eu)

[arctic talon]

EU is

One of the regions of all time

[humble shoal]

Yeah

Ive only been called the n word like 5 times in my 800 hours of NA cs

[arctic talon]

EU is just the most toxic region

In like almost every online game

I don’t even know why

[winter vessel]

Once was in a cod MW lobby filled with English and Irishmen

They are most certainly not chill

[arctic talon]

Dota 2 EU servers

You will learn new and creative insults

In every language ever

[winter vessel]

think one of em was singing the Jimmy Savile soccer chant

And Irish cussing sounds like they’re placing a curse on you

[sacred ginkgo]

They are

You should be running

[arctic talon]

The rot consumes

Genuinely what is with EU servers in like online like pvp games

[nocturne crest]

I just realised. People will be dressing up as ||Savile for Halloween this year because of 28 years later.||

[vagrant fox]

Pretty diverse groups with access to internet with language barriers and a lot of historic animosity to pull on is my guess

and some of the first things you learn from other languages is swearing

[arctic talon]

That tracks

[vagrant fox]

and put young testosterone gamers into that

It's the funniest thing playing World of Tanks with like 8 different nationalities in your team
Prime example of why the EU will never be united

[arctic talon]

I watch my friend play sometimes and it is truly “beautiful”

In its own “unique” way

[dapper gyro]

You guys must try SEA multiplier games.

It is literal war in the chat.

[vagrant fox]

I've heard it's bad there as well

All I can think every time is yeah no wonder Europe had near constant warfare til the mid 40s

[storm jungle]

I should watch that...

[sly ivy]

Lmfao

But why are u people talking about people fighting instead of actually fighting w each other

This place has gone to hell someone get mad

[vagrant fox]

I'm retired

[sly ivy]

Shut the fuck up asshat

… that was pathetic

Maybe I’ve lost it.

It’s because Trump et al. killed woke so now there’s nothing to have stupid fights about it’s not fun 2 argue about how AI superintelligence will actually kill us all or how the global economic system will collapse

[nocturne crest]

So odd question, but how much difference is there between the weapon our rejects use and the weapons of the cultists and traitors?

[arctic talon]

The cultist guns are prolly very poorly maintained

The Moebian guns are prolly maintained to the best of our ability

At level 30 our stuff is about as good as it gets for standard issue non master crafted gear of those varieties

In terms of armor

Our armor is def better quality flak then the rags and shit the cultists are wearing

The cultists shouldn’t even count as armored mostly

The Moebian sixth are again making the best of a bad situation

I’d assume the ones who aren’t literally fused to their armor will replace worn down armor with replacements or just fix it

[plush mason]

unless its zealot

[arctic talon]

Zealot could be wearing flak weave or flak under

Similar to some regiments

I’m going off of the actual armored pieces tbh

Nothing like ogryn being literally shirtless

[plush mason]

yeah but they are ogryn

[arctic talon]

Ogryn flesh is not magically as durable as flak armor

Ogryn are tough but armor still serves a purpose

It helps mitigate

[plush mason]

yeah

[sly ivy]

How dare u say this when He protects

[plush mason]

yeah i was about to say, the zealots are just murder hobos full stop

and the fact they have one of the lowest base toughness amounts i think is supose to reflect the fact they have next to no armor

unless that might have changed with the reworks

[nocturne crest]

I'm just wondering if having a Cult-stalker would be viable in darktide. The people the feds send in to spy on the cult.

[plush mason]

thats the wyrmwood agents

ofc the odds of us playing as one are low i think

[dapper gyro]

Since things in game are cosmetic, you can wear whatever.

However, some toughness boosts talents are mentioned as armour upgrade, so you can see that as something from flak to carapace armour depending on your build.

[tough haven]

Man I really wish I could figure out a good ork changer, I just wanna WAAAAGH! Like the boyz in DOW 1, but alas, I have not found a tool that allows for it

[nocturne crest]

Okay, this is dope and I hope we get an admech character in the future:

[arctic talon]

The flesh is weak

[opaque coyote]

Always wonder wtf do you even do when that happens

Like how do you even repair your new skin now

More importantly does it happen slowly or do you just like

Go battle

Try to take it off

Only for it to feel like you're pulling your flesh

...

Actually that's a disturbing prospect

[arctic talon]

It depends

Lol

But I’d assume in some instances it’s fast

[arctic talon]

It’ll heal itself

Usually

Fleshmelded armor isn’t really normal armor anymore

Some of the moebians we kill might also not be as dead as we think

[opaque coyote]

...so I guess if you ever join Chaos for whatever reason

[arctic talon]

Is the funny thing

Nurgle is uh

[opaque coyote]

Find the best suit of armor

[arctic talon]

A big boost for that

[arctic talon]

Again fleshmelded armor isn’t really armor

It’ll grow and evolve

[opaque coyote]

Yeah ik but if you ever get fleshmelded. You might as well have power armor on than a random flak vest

[arctic talon]

Well

Too late then

Lol

It just happens

[opaque coyote]

Yeah just be paranoid and always wear the best suit to battle

(the Chaos Gods will find a way to fuck you over anyways-)

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I heard that usually fleshmelded Marines don't need a power supply anymore

Cause now it's powered by Chaos and their own body

[nocturne crest]

Also, I think I found a way how servitors could work as a class, but I'm having trouble finding more information about it.

[opaque coyote]

Which is delightfully disturbing

[arctic talon]

Servitors are literally lobotomites

No personality or a functional mind

Tech thralls would work better

[opaque coyote]

Honestly it would be a disturbing detail that there's a chance for a "dead" enemy to get up

[arctic talon]

If you want the dregs of mechanicus “society”

[arctic talon]

They’re not done yet

[opaque coyote]

Tbh the enhanced durability is already at work since you can do some horrific damage and they'll still keep on going

[nocturne crest]

Right, but I learnt that there is something called a serfitor from the Dark Heresy RPG.

[opaque coyote]

I was genuinely surprised when I like

Shotgun blast a Mauler in the face

[arctic talon]

Just use tech thralls

Tech thralls are way more common

[nocturne crest]

Which is basically someone being turned into a servitor, but they get their free will back later.

[opaque coyote]

Half of their skull was completely exposed

[arctic talon]

And not just a calaxis thing

Tech thralls have their free will and minds

[opaque coyote]

And they just smashed me in the face with a hammer

[arctic talon]

And are surgically mutilated by priests lol

[opaque coyote]

Like I was genuinely horrified

Because usually when somebody's fucking skull is exposed like that they're supposed to drop dead

I still find it a cool detail

[nocturne crest]

Right, but there isn't much variant in weaponry.

[arctic talon]

Tech thralls fulfill the shambling surgically mutilated person archetype as good as servitors

[arctic talon]

They get plenty in lore

They just only get laslocks 99% of the time

[nocturne crest]

Oh.

[arctic talon]

This can be the 1%

Of the time where they get dif guns

Most of it is

Not great granted

But they do get other weapon options

[nocturne crest]

Looks like I've got ignorance on my face.

[arctic talon]

Well

You’re not a massive nerd for admech/mechanicum

I am

This is how I waste my free time/hj

I know way too much about the mechanicus

[nocturne crest]

So if you don't mind me asking, but do Serfitors actually exists as they're mentioned/discussed on 1d6chan and the Fandom website, but not in the Lexicanum?

[arctic talon]

They exist as mentioned, but they are only known to exist in calaxis

Tech thralls are what’s used literally everywhere else

As far as we know

[nocturne crest]

I see.

[plush mason]

so they can just wake up one day and not be able to take their armor off anymore?

[arctic talon]

yeeeeeep

[plush mason]

that has to be a wild experience

[opaque coyote]

To be honest I unironically want a Laslock in Darktide

Purely because it would be fun as shit

Like out of all the weapons. You choose the light show musket

Honestly I thought of it shooting out just like

A powerful laser beam for 3 seconds

But then it stops working and you need to reload it

Since Laslocks are more powerful than Lasguns.

But much less consistent

[dire loom]

What do they look like the weaponry?

I know I could just probably just quickly Google it but still..

[dire loom]

Would be cool, sounds cool.

Oh weapons the Scions be using.

[opaque coyote]

Basically Laslocks have much more stopping power compared to a Lasgun.

But you can only fire it once before reloading, it isn't as durable, and probably will fall apart soon.

They're implied to be an older design than the regular Lasgun

[dire loom]

So like a plasma gun but las version?

[opaque coyote]

No

Plasma is actually worth the risk

More like a Laser Musket

In fact that's one of it's names

[dire loom]

But.. it seems similar-

Gets executed

[opaque coyote]

It's less powerful

It's also much more shoddily made

[dire loom]

Oh

Interesting

[opaque coyote]

Yeah essentially it's also implied to be the predecessor to the Lasguns

So basically some Laslocks might unironically be older than the Imperium

[dire loom]

It would be cool if we got a machine gun las that wasn't recon las.

Recon las is like a rifle, we need a lmg las.

[opaque coyote]

Did the Helbore one get buffed

I remember them being dogshit

[dire loom]

I'll have to try it out later on. I was just so tired I probably just didn't noticed.

[dire loom]

Deep

How long has the Imperium been around for? 10,000 or 20,000 years or?

30,000 years?

Can't be more than 40,000 right..?

Oh it is 10,000 years. Nice

When was Borus heresy?

Oh so it started so early in and last around 500 to 1000 years ish?

Sorry my memory bad. I had to look it up again.

[plush mason]

what is Lho?

[dire loom]

@opaque coyote

They might know

I'll check for you later on after work if no one is able to help.

[plush mason]

because in rogue trader there was a wounded PDF soldier asking his comrads for some Lho before he dies

[dire loom]

I think they're smokes, #theorycrafting had something about it recently.

Makes sense

[plush mason]

i know they are, but im asking what Lho is specifically

is it tabaco or something similar or something more like pipeweed

[queen laurel]

it seems to just be something they call the cigarettes nothing else

[plush mason]

got it

[merry flower]

Lho is Just a normal cigarette.
Or the in universe equivalent

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I like to think that it's an alien plant that's like

Equivalent to Tobacco

[queen laurel]

if it was a thing they would have brought it up

so in this case it's just what they call it

but i would not be surprised if Lho is a plant

[dusky scroll]

From what I understand, Inquisitors are a bunch of assholes but they generally can back it up with their skill and competence.

What about the Commissars? How good are they generally at their job?

[crisp heath]

It's a spectrum

Some are really good tactically and hate killing their own others not so much

[storm jungle]

^

Most of them will be straight up awful people that shoot people on a whim but also generally lead by example/to the front since thats what they were trained to do

[sacred bluff]

not commissar cain

wonderful man

[storm jungle]

He knows when to run away

🫡

[sacred bluff]

[median star]

so with inquestior and rogue trader retinues id assume most times it a mutual agreement but is it common for someone to just be straight abducted into a retinue against their will

[queen laurel]

yes

if they can get aliens to work with them someone getting kidnapped along is not surprising

[paper haven]

It's worth noting that a commissar is usually one person and the people they lead are guaranteed to be armed. A commissar who's a little too trigger happy can very easily find themselves shot in turn.

[storm jungle]

Anything and everything.

Inquisitor and Rogue Trader retinues are set up in an RPG party manner, so anyone in the party can be there for any reason the writer wants.

[paper haven]

All Xenos Party

Saving an imperium that hates them one suicide mission at a time

[crisp heath]

I just want a ork in rouge trader in my party

[paper haven]

The Rogue Trader tabletop has rules for Orks if I recall

[crisp heath]

A freebooter

Yeah

[queen laurel]

Free booters yes

usually outcasts

[paper haven]

Makes sense. Most self respecting Orks probably avoid human retinues because, well, they just ain't orky enough

[crisp heath]

It is I the redgrot

[median star]

psykers cant join the cult mechanicus can they

[paper haven]

I've never heard of a psyker techpriest

[crisp heath]

Too much yappin too much wastin time

[queen laurel]

Blood axe

[paper haven]

They just don't get it. Gotta spend some time with the Ork hunters. Build an understanding of Kulture.

[crisp heath]

Bloody umiez

[paper haven]

As an Ork I used to know once said: "I bet da fucking umiez did dis."

[sly ivy]

False

Cawl Inferior is many psykers

[soft thunder]

various plants/strains of w/e they smoke in cigs/cigars are grown on agri-worlds too

[rose thorn]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/5bhawyez/kamandoras-blades-have-come-to-scavenge-skulls-from-the-depths-of-embergard/

YAYAYY

[brisk vine]

So for the eldest Brahms, the unknown voice, are we feeling Halo device?

[urban spire]

lho is a narcotic, it's more analogous with weed than tobacco

[urban spire]

this is one of those mysteries i mentioned being fond of the other day, there are no psyker tech priests and the precise reason why is not known

you can make a guess, and probably a fairly accurate one, but it's not explicit

[merry flower]

if you say so - lol

[urban spire]

@storm jungle i thought this was interesting, what's your opinion?

[arctic talon]

It’s part of the pact of Mars. The mechanicus is to turn over any and all naturally born psykers to the imperium.

Nowadays there’s a few psychic mechanicus priests and skitarii due to psychic awakening

[urban spire]

ah, that's new to me then

oh well

[arctic talon]

It’s like one line

From a single Horus heresy black book

💀

GW pls put this lore somewhere else as well

[winged jacinth]

40k lore moment

[arctic talon]

It wasn’t even in psychic awakening

[winged jacinth]

Actual archaeology required

[urban spire]

horus heresy isn't that old

[arctic talon]

Well, the black books are all out of print

And they were obnoxious to get your hands on

[urban spire]

oh wow i didn't know that either lmao

[arctic talon]

They are rulebooks so it makes sense that they’re OOP

But still

[urban spire]

at least you can get them online

[arctic talon]

Psychic awakening gives us a psychic skitarii vanguard who they keep in a lead lined box. Because they’re so insanely radioactive normal people drop dead instantly around them

Also they’re a memetic hazard

[urban spire]

sick

unfortunate for the vanguard inna box though

[arctic talon]

Tbf

[urban spire]

well, maybe they like it, idk

[arctic talon]

They had stuff in there

They also thought they were “blessed” by the omnissiah with the holy fire to cleanse the non believers

[winged jacinth]

Skitarii life is uh, unusual to begin with anyway

[arctic talon]

and anyone who dropped dead was simply an unbeliever lol

[urban spire]

afaik being a skitarii is a pretty pleasant experience since your entire sensorium is constantly giving you positive reinforcement whenever you behave correctly

[arctic talon]

Skitarii are religious fanatics on par with the sisters of battle for Martian standard skitarii

They’re prolly most comparable in terms of like, role within the organization they’re in

[arctic talon]

Tech priests do sometimes do that yeah lol

[winged jacinth]

deploy as screen for a titan
accidentally get stepped on before reaching the enemy

[queen laurel]

aight not gonna lie

arbites Rt goes hard

[arctic talon]

They’re linked to the moderatii mentally via noosphere so that doesn’t happen

[urban spire]

there are worse ways to go in 40k for sure

[arctic talon]

Though it would be hilarious if the princeps didn’t care and did it intentionally

[winged jacinth]

Its like trying to walk through an ant swarm

[arctic talon]

Yeeep lol

Though the ant swarm is connected to your brain

So they know where you’ll step

And you know where the ants are going

[winged jacinth]

But they're slow

What if you need to make evasive maneuvers

[arctic talon]

Most titans cannot do that

Aside from the warhound

Which doesn’t tend to deploy with a secutarii screen

[urban spire]

tbf even guard infantry is unlikely to get stepped on by a warhound, those things like to toot their horns a lot

you KNOW where a warhound is

[dapper gyro]

Don't you like to get stepped on?

[urban spire]

also i just finished bloodlines and immediately realized audible doesn't actually have the whole crime imprint, it's just bloodlines, a 1 hour audio drama and some individual short stories

[arctic talon]

yeeeeeeeeep

Its weird

[urban spire]

bummer

[arctic talon]

idk I'm sure some Secutarii from Ryza like getting showered by plasma

its not like they don't have refractor shields