40k-lore-chat

[urban spire]

i'm reminded of the people convinced a marine could never lose to a non-marine human

e.g. the rejects

[humble shoal]

Yeah, solar auxilia killed a couple of them....

[celest dome]

Long time no seen

👋

[urban spire]

yeah i drift in and out of 40k interest phases

hello again

[queen laurel]

Well well if it ain't the fire mage of lore chat

Long time no see

[urban spire]

nice to drop in and see familiar faces

[humble shoal]

I still want to fight a plague marine

[urban spire]

yeah it'd be fun

[humble shoal]

Play like the fat sorcerer boss

In the falling house

Forget his name

or we get a marine to spawn

Blessing like the gatekeeper

In the skittergate mission

[urban spire]

i'd love to see non-plague chaos marines as an enemy type, too

[humble shoal]

Eh, I want plague cuz nurgle

[urban spire]

as sort of a ranged version of crushers

[humble shoal]

Also death guard doo dad in sublevel 4

[urban spire]

oh yeah absolutely but a full on plague marine is more of a boss enemy i figure

[humble shoal]

Yeah

Tbh I think space marines should be bosses

In general

Though they would lorewuse be squishier than crushers

Just faster

Which would make them bestigors

Fuck that

[urban spire]

a space marine is a somewhat weaker ogryn with better aim, no need to put them on that much of a pedestal

[humble shoal]

They would be faster, squishier crushers. Aka Bestigors the cw

And I hate bestigors

[urban spire]

i reckon it'd be a ranged enemy

[tough haven]

I love space marine fans being like "b-but, look at the descriptions of armor and stuff on the wiki!" Like bro all faction descriptions sound like that, they hype up their gear's capabilities for cool factor, its effectively propaganda

[humble shoal]

Or combat knife bolter

[urban spire]

yeah, tactical marines

like they slowly walk at you and burst fire the bolter, if you get close they whip out the knife

[humble shoal]

Feel like reapers already hold what a bolter sm would hold

In enemy niche

[urban spire]

reapers are more of a turret though, marines have to reload pretty frequently, those overhyped grenade launchers don't have great magazine capacity

[humble shoal]

True, but in enemy design they would just be worse reapers

[urban spire]

a middle ground i feel, if they pull out the knife and become more mobile if you get close

[humble shoal]

I think its best to just keep em mobile the whole time

[urban spire]

yeah that's sort of what i was getting at

[humble shoal]

But tbh would be a really annoying enemy type

And does change the type of war a bit

[queen laurel]

Marines are almost on every goddam 40k game though

I just want a game where i don't have to look at them

In there are very few games where i can do that

[humble shoal]

Plague marines arent common are they?

[celest dome]

Why want CSM when we could get Lesser Deamons

[celest dome]

Comparatively, they kind of are

[humble shoal]

Theyre only in what, dow

[celest dome]

Martyr, Chaosgate

[humble shoal]

Ah right havent played those

[celest dome]

SM2 in the Pvp

[humble shoal]

Sm2 has all sm

So I just dont count em

Anyway I just want an equivilent of the poop sorcerer boss

[celest dome]

It ought to count as its warhammer games.
Like we can count Mechanicus 1 as not having them

[humble shoal]

And plague marine makes the most sense for that

[celest dome]

Sorcerer can exist as non-SM too

[humble shoal]

True

[humble shoal]

But green armored poop sorcerer sounds cool tbh

And proper nurgly

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[sour hornet]

space marine question

[outer wave]

Space marine answer

[sour hornet]

what do marines call marines from a different chapter, but the same geneseed?

[winged jacinth]

i dont think there's a term

you're just both successor chapters to that legion

considering how many chapters have unknown primarchs it doesnt really come up much

[storm jungle]

^

battle-brother is battle-brother

Successors will sometimes show veneration to their parent chapter but even then they are still battle-bros

[winged jacinth]

plus theres like a 1 in 3 chance you're technically an ultramarines successor because of how the founding worked lol

[vagrant fox]

Sometimes they refer to the other as brother because they're heckin wholesome smile

[sly ivy]

No marinesssssss in Darktide

No ❌

The one boss chaos champion in Vermintide is cool I guess. But even in that game having chaos warriors as regular enemies is lame.

[sour hornet]

I dont want marines, but chaos enemies are sick as hell

[storm jungle]

Nah its peak

we are special characters, we can kill mountains of chaos warriors

🗣️

[queen laurel]

The first place chaos warriors are not that impressive

It's The chosen you really have to worry about

[outer wave]

Me, playing as Kerillian, getting overheaded by 10 Chaos Warriors at once

[queen laurel]

Watch me use the magical power of turning grenades into nuclear bombs as engineer and make them disappear

[celest dome]

Morgrim pilled

[queen laurel]

You know what they say Taste morgrim's wrath

[sour hornet]

I like being arbite, it fits the power fantasy well

Clad in a full suit of black carapace armor, mowing through heretics with a big mace and fuckoff shotgun

Aura farming all over atoma

I mean, Arbites gotta fight genestealers on the reg, makes sense we mow through normal heretic

[humble shoal]

Genestealers should be the next faction

Nurgle infested genestealers

[outer wave]

Okay that would be rad, memes aside

[celest dome]

GSC aren't really an issue that Arbites deal with

If anything GSC make them less likely to get involved

[sour hornet]

When they overtake a planet it will be one.

It'll be their job to get the word out before they are inevitably overrun.

[humble shoal]

Imagine seeing the patriarch pimpmobile

[near wasp]

I mean the chaos cult activity might prematurely push a gsc into action

[sour hornet]

How powerful is your average GSC hybrid?

Like, above human strength but still manageable?

[plush mason]

iirc gsc and chaos cults are like 2 rival ant colonies when they find one another, its all out war from the start

[sour hornet]

I dont know why but I find that incredibly funny

imagine being the local authorities stumbling onto something like that

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/let-them-fight-gif-19050171

[spring cairn]

Just another Tuesday in Necromunda

[plush mason]

then they wipe out the winning side while they are still weakened

[sour hornet]

"This hive isn't yours to conquer."

[plush mason]

exactly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlNpnk1G2Hc

the answer is yes

[languid meadow]

• Inquisitor Kryptman before creating the worst possible scenario on Octarius

[plush mason]

yeah

[arctic talon]

Stronger then a human guardsmen, weaker then an eldar

Also what gen

Earlier gens can be in the eldar marine ballpark

[sour hornet]

How durable? Could us rejects handle them?

[sour hornet]

Okay, to be fair to Kryptmann, that was Murphy's Law fucking him repeatedly.

[plush mason]

those 3 armed ones are pretty beafy

[plush mason]

and it was on a much larger scale than just a gsc/chaos cult beafing it out in the underhive

[arctic talon]

if its acolyte hybrids

they're in the eldar/marine/ork ballpark

if its neophyte hybrids they're in the human/eldar ballpark

[dapper gyro]

They are physically stronger, but guns are a big power multiplier that evens out the play field.

[sour hornet]

So Acolytes would be like the captains we face in strength level? Or more like monstrosities?

[queen laurel]

I think the only thing that rejects would have really an issue with would be patriarchs

[arctic talon]

Captains are only human

[dapper gyro]

Hard to gauge in DT because of gameplay power fantasy.

[arctic talon]

yeah that also

[arctic talon]

pure strains

[sour hornet]

fair

[arctic talon]

would fucking shred

any person alive

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah

Those are horrifying

[arctic talon]

you might as well be fighting purestrains naked

thats not a joke

[opaque coyote]

I think it's explained away as us just being that good (tm)

[sour hornet]

we take down beasts of nurgle and chaos spawn with unrealistic ease

[arctic talon]

Well the gameplay numbers obviously can't be canon

lol

[paper haven]

Pure strains tear Marines in terminator armor apart

[arctic talon]

Pure strains fucking tear tanks apart

lol

[paper haven]

Same thing, really

[arctic talon]

genuinely horrifying

[dapper gyro]

Though, generally speaking, an IG team with lasguns will destroy most GSC targets with ease.

[arctic talon]

yeah

GSC are insurgents

they hate straight up fights

[sour hornet]

how are those squeezed out of normal fucking humans bro

[arctic talon]

Smol baby

then grow into big scary purestrain

[opaque coyote]

4 generation cycle

[paper haven]

GSC are poorly trained and equipped. The IG had better shred them in open combat.

[arctic talon]

tbh

the only GSC who are a match in open combat are brood brothers

for uh

obvious reasons

but normal gsc fuck no lol

[sour hornet]

to be fair, the Inquisition in general, and arbites in particular, go out and find you

[paper haven]

Their strengths lie is subversion and ambush

[arctic talon]

also plastic explosives

a lot of plastic explosives

[opaque coyote]

So basically most GSCs are just regular people in terms of strength

[paper haven]

I file that under ambush

[sour hornet]

the Inquisition doesn't do large scale warfare unless its a vraks type situation

[arctic talon]

Stronger

Then a normal human

but not as strong as say like an eldar

they're somewhere inbetween

[opaque coyote]

Just less well trained

And also a gun can still kill them

[paper haven]

Yeah, their genes make them tougher and stronger than the average human

[arctic talon]

like if a gen 4hybrid got in a fist fight

[sour hornet]

I dont know how fucking strong the average eldar is physically lmao

[arctic talon]

with a normal human

they'd fucking clobber them to death

[opaque coyote]

Ah

[arctic talon]

now granted

[paper haven]

But lasgun go pew

[arctic talon]

the hybrid would probably not have a good time

and be pretty fucked up

by money is on the hybrid

[opaque coyote]

Probably would instantly punch through your chest and rip out your heart

[arctic talon]

The average eldar could tear a humans head off without much issue

[plush mason]

oh so how do eldar summon an avatar of Khaine? do they still have to sacrifice one of their own?

[arctic talon]

They might struggle a bit to get the spine out

[sour hornet]

im different though

[storm jungle]

Yeah they do

[dapper gyro]

Pure strains are strong, but so are anti tank weapons.

[arctic talon]

yep, an autarch or exarch

[paper haven]

I've read the Eldar as being stronger than humans but far less resilient.

[arctic talon]

They're just generally more durable/stronger

according to most sources

[opaque coyote]

Nah they're definitely more resilient

[sour hornet]

And an aspect warrior?

[arctic talon]

Aspect warriors are in aspect plate and jacked

so just that but stronger

[opaque coyote]

Would probably turn you into gore

[paper haven]

Above average

[arctic talon]

not as strong as marines still

[dapper gyro]

I don't know where the "eldar is less durable" comes from...

[arctic talon]

fanon

they look thin and skinny

[opaque coyote]

Like just

[arctic talon]

Excluding shit like Regimental standard/The Uplifting primer

[paper haven]

No, I've read it in official books. From multiple authors

[arctic talon]

which is in universe propaganda

Where

[sour hornet]

How tf did a single space marine chapter clobber a craftword then

[storm jungle]

Plot lol

[opaque coyote]

Plot armor

The best armor

[arctic talon]

Invaders invaded a craftworld that was crippled by nids, also plot

lol

[storm jungle]

KEK

triple "plot" 3x moment

[arctic talon]

I would genuinely like to read that

[plush mason]

the DOW series making them low health and high movement didnt help much i bet

[arctic talon]

bcs pretty much everything I've read has just had eldar as physically superior to humans

[paper haven]

The Ultramarine omnibus and Blood ravens omnibus both have normal humans wrecking Eldar in melee

[dapper gyro]

50 SM can take over current earth military... Yeah, right...

[arctic talon]

was the blood ravens omnibus written by CS goto

[storm jungle]

Blood Ravens omnibus

yeet

[sour hornet]

bruh sm wank holds factions back so much

[arctic talon]

oh my fucking god

[storm jungle]

Literally.

Its funny because some craftworlds got enough ship arsenal/defense to cripple an entire system fleet lol

[arctic talon]

its by CS goto

lmao

I knew it

[outer wave]

They should make a space marine 3 where Tightass lands on a craftworld and he kills all 30 trillion eldar on the ship

[sour hornet]

I hate it so much

[paper haven]

I agree. But also the Ultramarine onnibus

[storm jungle]

Welcome to the club

[arctic talon]

UM omnibus yeah

[outer wave]

He would look SO badass

[arctic talon]

but there's more that

goes against that

then for it

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats also the Ultramarine omnibus

anyone they fight is gonna get clobbered

like

[arctic talon]

I mean even including non eldar books

lol

[storm jungle]

im reading a space sharks book

[arctic talon]

Eldar in Dominion Genesis are depicted as physically stronger then baseline humans

[storm jungle]

and they somehow repel an entire tyranid invasion by killing a genestealer patriarch

[arctic talon]

and even some augmented humans

[storm jungle]

thats not how it works

[paper haven]

A normal human fights Eldar raiders at the start

Like, a farmer.

[arctic talon]

okay but there's more against this

then for it

[storm jungle]

Yeah that guy would get folded lol

[arctic talon]

is my point

[storm jungle]

Like-

[paper haven]

He kills four of them

[storm jungle]

eldar move faster than you can see them sometimes

[arctic talon]

Dominion Genesis, Wraithbone phoenix

[storm jungle]

jesus christ

lol

[arctic talon]

The new like

Lelith book

[paper haven]

With a bolt action rifle

[arctic talon]

that

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

would not pierce armor

[sour hornet]

Do GW BL authors just actively disdain eldar or what

[arctic talon]

what

[arctic talon]

idk some of them

maybe

who knows lol

[storm jungle]

Its that + going against the posterboy of a book

[paper haven]

I honestly believe they do

[plush mason]

remember that time the clowns invaded the imperial palace and cut down custodians like wheat?

[arctic talon]

Some of them like eldar

some of them dislike them

Maybe I've just been lucky

But in most recent depictions eldar are just depicted as better then humans

[paper haven]

He runs out of ammo and just smacks the last one in the head

[arctic talon]

in terms of like physical capabilities

[paper haven]

Kills it.

[arctic talon]

so like

I'm going to take those

over like

that

[arctic talon]

are the eldar naked

what

[opaque coyote]

Twerking competition between Eldar and SM

[paper haven]

No it was in armor, the text described him crumpling it's helmet

[opaque coyote]

SM wins

[arctic talon]

okay well thats just stupid lol

[dapper gyro]

Hmmm whot????

[paper haven]

Graham McNeil, everyone

[arctic talon]

wait

[opaque coyote]

Bruh

[arctic talon]

he wrote forge of mars

????

what the fuck lol

[paper haven]

At least, I think that was the author

[arctic talon]

The eldar in that book are like

it is grahm

for both

what the fuck lol

[dapper gyro]

Maybe the farmer was a former thunder warrior...

[arctic talon]

Grahm

In forge of mars

eldar catches a bolt round lives

in Ultramarine omnibus

fucking go go rifle as a club

[dapper gyro]

Or, you know, a character from Baki.

[opaque coyote]

IG it's a case of "Ah shit I wrote myself into a corner"

[plush mason]

nah it was an eye of the emperor

[paper haven]

The Ultramarine omnibus is pretty old so I'm willing to give him a pass on simply not knowing what Eldar are when he wrote it

[arctic talon]

Probably

[opaque coyote]

Like they couldn't think of any plausible way of the farmer surviving

So

[arctic talon]

In any case I'd say most modern depictons of eldar have them as

not that

[opaque coyote]

"Fuck it."

[arctic talon]

though they have other issues

like muscle tears being

bad

[opaque coyote]

"Just have him dent the helmet"

[arctic talon]

their muscles heal badly

[outer wave]

Do you think Yujiro would survive 40k?

[paper haven]

It was so unnecessary too. He dies later to tyrannids

[storm jungle]

Related clip btw

[dapper gyro]

Let's not talk about that...

[arctic talon]

I thought this was going to be the predator wire trap

but thats a craftworld weapon technically

lol

[storm jungle]

Nah thats the "eldar weapons" meme video lol

[arctic talon]

in any case eldar have issues healing muscles

[outer wave]

Okay, aside from his, uh, habits, he could do it, yeah?

[paper haven]

If written by the writer of Baki? Absolutely. He would beat up Guilliman and then piss on him.

[arctic talon]

because the old ones did a fucky wucky

[opaque coyote]

Then ig it's just him not knowing the Eldar then

[arctic talon]

Turns out

compressed layered muscles

not good at healing

[outer wave]

I feel like he'd do a certain thing at the end of that fight which Im not gonna say

[storm jungle]

Accurate.

[outer wave]

Because its gross

[storm jungle]

Yujiro harrassed like

4 U.S presidents

in a row

[paper haven]

A lot of Baki is gross

[storm jungle]

[outer wave]

And Elon Musk

Dont forget that

[paper haven]

Hilarious

[dapper gyro]

Plot armour too thick, better match would be against Batman.

[plush mason]

he was the billionaire in chief for a bit so

[outer wave]

That bit during the time Elon was in the white house was pretty peak

[paper haven]

What the hell was I thinking before Baki was mentioned? Oh yeah. Eldar. They get disrespected in a lot of books I have read

[paper haven]

Heinrix, stop being great at everything

[dapper gyro]

Damn Baki is so powerful that you give my guy here a temporary memory loss...

[arctic talon]

Brooks is writing an eldar book

Non gav content for cwe

[paper haven]

It completely threw my train of thought off

[arctic talon]

After so long

[plush mason]

tbf techwork wasnt something he was trained for

[arctic talon]

It wasn’t

It’s just funny to pretend like it was

[plush mason]

if pascal is in the party its really funny

[storm jungle]

My only worry is the orks wiping the floor with them again, I dont trust Brooks with Orks/Eldar after Da Big Dakka lol

[dapper gyro]

Ok, good luck boys and girls on explaining to people about 40K in universe power scaling. Im out.

[plush mason]

like dude let the cogworshiper do that

[arctic talon]

Nah he’s writing eldar pov so the eldar are going to shit on everyone in their path

[storm jungle]

we shall see

oh hey

[arctic talon]

It’s brooks

[storm jungle]

grotsnickers book is finally out

[arctic talon]

He literally has his pov faction smash everyone in the way

[storm jungle]

wait nvm its an audio one

GAY

wait nvm

https://www.blacklibrary.com/prod-home/new/ebook-grotsnik-da-mad-dok-eng-2025.html

here we go

[arctic talon]

Like it happens the Huron book

[median star]

chat we won

[arctic talon]

It happens in the alpha legion book

[storm jungle]

booooring

🗣️

[arctic talon]

It happens in the Ork books

[opaque coyote]

The Inquistion must teach you a lot of things

Should release their stuff as an online course smh

"How to torture Xenos effectively! Only $29.99!"

[arctic talon]

Do you think this is his hair or a Whig

[opaque coyote]

[opaque coyote]

Yes

[paper haven]

That's such a great deal though

[median star]

no

[arctic talon]

Real excruciation techniques tested on real xenos!

[paper haven]

Oh man, the Huron book

[arctic talon]

Yeah that book

Was not good lol

[paper haven]

The one with the inverted planets?

[arctic talon]

But it does have Huron and the red corsairs kind of

destroying everyone

[paper haven]

Yep.

[arctic talon]

The one where Huron is written like mini abbadon

For some reason

And not dude who loves money

And being evil and making money

[paper haven]

No he's the new Abbadon

Trust

[arctic talon]

[paper haven]

Which does bring up a good point, why hasn't Abbadon gone over and forced Huron to swear allegiance to him. He's very keen on not being out staged in the eyes of the chaos gods

[arctic talon]

Thankfully anything subsequent for Huron seems to have ignored his characterization in that book lol

[arctic talon]

Huron is non hostile and has worked with the black legion at times. Huron also has the 2nd largest collection of CSM along with more human manpower then Abby D

Also Huron likes money

So it’s easy to get him onboard with something as long as you promise him riches and resources

[paper haven]

Right, so the book I read was basically the worst characterization of Huron. Great.

[storm jungle]

YEP

If it helps even the O.G writer of Huron's books hated it

(and shes in this server)

[arctic talon]

Yeeeep

Brooks kind of butchered Huron personality wise

I’m not sure why he did that

[storm jungle]

It was an honest mistake

[arctic talon]

But he’s very much Arrrrgh I’m a pirate but chaos space marine and love money

[paper haven]

I hated it and I hardly knew who he was.
He showed up like one time in one of Warsmith Honsou's books

[arctic talon]

I hope so

[storm jungle]

nah im joking

fuck that shit

lmao

[arctic talon]

All the Huron fans do not like that book

But yeah the red corsairs are United by one thing above all else

https://tenor.com/view/i-smell-profit-i-smell-hondo-hondo-ohnaka-gif-22602558

They all love money and resources, they don’t care about the long war. They just want their own mini empire to rule over and whatever the hell they want

What I’m saying is Huron has won

He’s living his best life, he’s got his own mini empire, he’s got wealth and treasures. Only thing that could make his life better is if those marine chapters who went against him at badab all got crushed lol

[paper haven]

I hate that I always seem to read the exact wrong book for context on a character

[arctic talon]

Rip

[paper haven]

Anyway, the greedy pirate king Huron seems cool

[paper haven]

The 40k experience summed up

Now introducing MEGAFASCISM ™!
Sixteen times the oppression!
Sixteen times the size!

[storm jungle]

god the Type 3

[outer wave]

I LOVE SUPERHYPERFASCISM!!!!!

[opaque coyote]

16X the size? What a good deal!

[naive cliff]

I didn’t like the Lion book he did

[arctic talon]

I didn’t like it very much either but it’s infinitely better then the Huron book

[naive cliff]

Son of the Forest

[paper haven]

I'm still kind of lost on how that book ends

[naive cliff]

Yikes what book was it?

[opaque coyote]

(Warning: Side Effects might include spontaneous loss of life, being a bad father, being stuck on the cuck chair for all of eternity, male pattern baldness for your sons, and repressed homosexuality)

[arctic talon]

Master of the maelstrom

[opaque coyote]

ORDER NOW

[arctic talon]

The writing isn’t even that bad

It’s just

that’s not huron

[near wasp]

I really liked the lion book

[storm jungle]

What do people dislike about the Lion book

i know a great majority love it

but im curious about the opposite side lol

[near wasp]

I've seen more people here not like it than have liked it

[storm jungle]

yeah tho again the general perception is pretty positive from what ive seen

[naive cliff]

Right. Same with the lion. He just doesn’t seem to understand the characters. Where’s the Lion who was ready to invade mccragge at a moments notice? Where’s the lion who beat leman Russ in a brawl. Where’s the primarch who malcador described as an animal pretending to be man?

[storm jungle]

I mean

its been 10 Millennia lol

even Gman has changed

also like-

Hes literally rampaging through Nihilus rn

[winged jacinth]

pleasant memories of talking to a guy in here, getting bad vibes, and asking him what he thought of the imperium which triggered a full mask off rant lol

[storm jungle]

doing exactly what he did best in 30k

[winged jacinth]

i think you banned him after lol

[near wasp]

Lion got thrust into a world after ten thousand years and had his entire view of the imperium turned on its head

[naive cliff]

You’re not wrong I was just disappointed

[storm jungle]

I think going into the book expecting a 30k Lion was a bad move

its a character journey book

[naive cliff]

Probably🤣

[near wasp]

The Lion was probably gonna kill zabby if zabriel hadn't called the lion a traitor

[paper haven]

Everything has a cost

[arctic talon]

I wanted him to start more as an unhinged psychopath and progress into less of one

[near wasp]

I failed my father, I failed my brother's I do not wish to fail my sons- the lion

[arctic talon]

But we just get less unhinged Lion from the start

[paper haven]

It's rough to be a loyalist primarch right now

[arctic talon]

Oh also I wanted Lion to interact with the modern day dark angels

[paper haven]

Unless you're Jaghatai, who all evidence suggests has spent the last ten thousand years harassing the entire Dark Eldar faction.

[storm jungle]

instead he started as a noble guy and now turned into a rampaging psychopath

PEAK

[arctic talon]

Yeah ngl it was a somewhat fun inversion

The unhinged psychopath still exists

It’s just hidden now

Lol

But saying I dislike the Lion book is wrong

I simply did not like it

[arctic talon]

He might be in the clown zone

Tbh

[opaque coyote]

But isn't that disliking

[paper haven]

Nobody's perfect

[opaque coyote]

[naive cliff]

It almost happened in arks of omen

[near wasp]

The Lion is a Knight and he has to show that. But when he butchered those chaos boys he's clearly still a monster under the fasacde

[arctic talon]

They finally did with the codex

And white dwarf stuff

[paper haven]

Didn't know he liked clowns

Jaghatai, stop watching Eldar stage performances, the Imperium needs you.

[arctic talon]

No he’s learning

Jokes aside I’m of the opinion he’s in the Black Library

Because there’s literally 0 mention of him and GW cannot help themselves

[paper haven]

Rip

[near wasp]

The drukari def would say something if they had Khan

Or if he was attacking there stuff

[opaque coyote]

First yes

Second nah

I do like the idea of Khan just having his own little corner in Commoragh though

[near wasp]

Bro runs a race track

[opaque coyote]

Although whether he can shove his hatred of Xenos long enough to actually make allies with them is another story

[near wasp]

I mean drukari would watch fellow drukari die in a horrible death race

[opaque coyote]

But now I'm imagining him having a small rebellion area where he and a bunch of escaped slaves of varying races lie

The reason why he hasn't like tried to take over is simply because a planet is stationary

Commoragh makes Hell look like a child's playground

[opaque coyote]

Tbh I just like the idea of hope being in a hellish place

A refuge in hell so to speak

For those who are willing to fight for it

[near wasp]

That's exactly why gw would never do it

[humble shoal]

The khan is actually just using vect as a flesh puppet

[plush mason]

ngl that might be the first time i have seen the golden throne called a cuck chair

[humble shoal]

Believe it or not I have heard it more than once.

[opaque coyote]

I mean it was the funniest way I could describe jt

Since the Emperor is essentially watching his empire being fucked

[plush mason]

oh i believe, im just surprised i havent yet was the thing

its a fairly low hanging fruit

[paper haven]

I like the idea that Jaghatai just keeps starting slave rebellions and once they've escaped, he just turns around and starts again.
They raided his planet, so he's gonna raid them forever.

[plush mason]

ngl i could see that purely because the dark eldar would like it

[storm jungle]

Free sport

🫡

[plush mason]

yup

random question, is it ever explicitly stated that the drukhari only feed off of negative emotions?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[paper haven]

My understanding is that they feed off of suffering specifically

[arctic talon]

They feed off of suffering, and fear

Specifically yeah

[paper haven]

So, pleasant emotions probably cause them harm

[median star]

almost like an ex wife

[paper haven]

Or so I'd like to imagine

[arctic talon]

Likely not seeing as their own positive emotions don’t harm them

The tastiest targets are craftworld eldar

For the drukhari

[paper haven]

Figures.

[arctic talon]

Drukhari children are also excellent

Because they aren’t uh

hardened to that lifestyle yet

Actually that might explain why dark eldar parents are so abusive to their kids

Beyond just the usual things of getting them “ready”

It’s a literal free meal for them

[paper haven]

Oh my god

I never considered that. I always figured they were born as miniature little trash goblins and the only difference between a child and an adult was size

[arctic talon]

yeah drukhari children have to be taught the lifestyle, how to torture people, ect. and most of them end up having a lot of issues regarding their parents

[paper haven]

That tracks, given their parents are serial killers.

[arctic talon]

but yeah in Path of the dark eldar

a tureborn Archon has a panic attack when he hears his mother is coming to visit and its some of the most terror any of the drukhari in the room have ever felt

[paper haven]

Ok that's hilarious

[crystal forum]

im surprised that arbites characters call out to malcador

but it makes sense

[arctic talon]

it is

[storm jungle]

hes the one well known for setting the groundwork for the imperial laws so it works

[median star]

i dont think iv heard the maul talk abt him at all tbh

[storm jungle]

They mention him

[crystal forum]

im guessing it's a stand in for whoever's the law guy in the high lords of terra rn

[storm jungle]

Nah he is also known

malcador is a venerated figure

at least in the arbites case, its told in the Soulshackle book

[crystal forum]

i do like how the arbites are clearly shown venerating their own stuff

which we already knew they do with the lex

i've seen them get along with zealots which is the funny thing

[languid meadow]

I would love to experience interactions but it seems they are bugged or something

I've only heard two interactions and it was between fatalist and maul/auth (both being the same one over and over again)

[crystal forum]

might be because all teams are full arbites rn

[languid meadow]

no like I've only heard them talk about how
A: how the marshal doesn't like them
B: maul asking about reading their report

always these two

[plush mason]

why though?

like what is he to the adeptus arbites?

[storm jungle]

He literally established the core imperial government that is Adeptus Terra lol

the very core government the Arbites serve that the Lex Imperials stems from

[plush mason]

ok that makes sense

[crystal forum]

he's more of a grey knight and inquisition figure

which is why i didn't expect him to be mentioned

[plush mason]

same but as he did start the whole ass government of the imeprium it makes sense

[crystal forum]

arbites usually dislike inquisitors so it's weird to see

if they borderline worship him then they'd think inquisitors are cool since he gave them their rights

[storm jungle]

I mean

they dont really know that

[crystal forum]

they don't?

[storm jungle]

No lol

almost nobody alive knows the origin of the Inquisition

they dont even know their ][ logo comes from malcador's sigil

[languid meadow]

There's literally an ordo dedicated to keeping the history of the inquisition secret and an ordo dedicated to figuring it out

One big ouroboros

[winged jacinth]

among all the active measures to hide stuff its also been 10000 years

[languid meadow]

they should kiss

[winged jacinth]

but yeah malcador basically invented the civilian government of the imperium

speaking of which my new arbites RP is that im personally collecting the tithe one canister of plasteel at a time

because the marshall doesnt like me

[crystal forum]

my character was sent here because he's too dumb to do anything more than bash heads in

[crystal forum]

kinda weird that arbites don't learn about inquisitors being above every law then tbh

[storm jungle]

They dont really need to

their job doenst involve the Inquisition 90% of the time

[crystal forum]

they have to know though in case it happens right? if they treat an inquisitor like a normal dude then that's a really bad situation

[storm jungle]

I mean no

[crystal forum]

maybe they do know idk

[storm jungle]

they are doing their own thing

[remote merlin]

would there be a warhammer version of Alice in chains or is the Imperium just not cool enough

[storm jungle]

Underhive bands/song-folks are a thing

but it would not be really a government mandated thing lol

so he'd just be some rando nutjob that does music

[crystal forum]

actually they probably do learn about inquisitors at least a little tbh. the schola has scions which are often used by them

and i don't remember any situation where an arbites didn't recognize an inquisitor's authority

isn't it funny that everybody in eisenhorn knows about inquisitors? it's like every ganger has heard about them

[plush mason]

they likely have

but in the "oh no they are gona kill us all for even the smallest failing" kind of way

its why agents of the inquisition often hide the fact they are in it

or flaunt it to make use of the reputation

so all in all, its your classic secret police fearmongering

[crystal forum]

that doesn't make much sense when you think about how few inquisitors there are, but it does make sense in eisenhorn's series

dan abnet's eisenhorn universe is a super connected world where people from some bumfuck nowhere agri world heard about something happening in another star system

[plush mason]

im sure the inquisition has endeavored to insure most if not all worlds of the imperium knows it exists, at least the upper classes of said worlds, and that info trickles down to the commoners as rumor and legend

[crystal forum]

that does make sense. it would explain why everybody recognizes the rosette at least

[plush mason]

yeah and they couldnt really do their job if no one knows what they are

[crystal forum]

oftentimes it's more the fear of repercussions that gets people to listen to inquisitors rather than respect for the rules lol

[plush mason]

yup

and for that fear to exist people have to know the inquisition can make them pay said repercussions

[arctic talon]

the inqusition is a boogeyman tbh

[plush mason]

yup

like all secret police

you know they exist and their power is unquestionable, beyond that they are but shadows in the night

[arctic talon]

I like how maledictum has a system

for flashing the rosette lol

do it too much and there will be consequences

[plush mason]

i wonder if Owlcat's dark heresy will have such a system

[arctic talon]

maybe, it doesn't exist in Dark heresy

[crystal forum]

rogue trader and darktide giving arbites more attention than they've had in the last 10 years in the entire setting

im happy now that people realize how awesome of a faction they are

kind of a shame that there aren't more of their unique weapons like the net launcher and sniper shotgun

[arctic talon]

tbf

the webber isn't that unique to them

it is however super weird

[crystal forum]

who else uses it

[arctic talon]

Enforcers

the moebian sixth

gsc

oh also Deathwatch

The inqusition as well ig

[crystal forum]

interesting

i guess we did get literal dogs

[tender pine]

Yeah I'd rather have a dog than a net.

But I'm excited to see what the next class will be.

[crystal forum]

i think we'll see darktide 2 before a new class

[plush mason]

Hadron finally annoys the admech enough that they send a small skitarii force under some rando to help out and shut her up :P

[sly ivy]

Imagine the grief she’ll be giving to some random puke skitarius

[paper haven]

We'll get the renegade Space marine class before we get a good Attilan rough rider cosmetic.

[arctic talon]

do you think she'll call them varlet or do you think she'll have a new insult for them

[glossy sonnet]

Do the officers say different things to the arbites or are they still called rejects

[sly ivy]

We have dog

WHERE IS HORSE

dog of the steppe

[paper haven]

Horse is just big dog.

[storm jungle]

Thats a huge bitch

🗣️

[dapper gyro]

judging the by the scale, that ammo box can supply the gatling cannon for about 0.8 seconds.

[crystal forum]

sanitorum closetius

[opaque coyote]

"Alright guys, surely we can take the planet from the oppressive Imperium!"

The Space Marine Dreadnought in the next room

(I am assuming that is a dreadnought)

[dire loom]

Rebellion?!

Not on my watch!

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I still kinda wish there were a few successful non-Chaos breakaways from the Imperium.

Nothing huge, just a system or two for flavor

[opaque coyote]

Because it seems like all rebellions that get somewhere are also fueled by Chaos

And while I like a good old Chaos Rebellion, Huron moment

I still think that some non-Chaos rebellions would be more interesting to see for the setting

Or Rebellions that just aren't influenced from outside forces

[dire loom]

There was the greek Spartan armor looking folk, but I think they got purged, destroyed by other factions or assimilated eventually.. idk. Can't remember.

Forgot who they were too

[opaque coyote]

Because a problem from other observers is that from a surface point of view, the Imperium are ""heroic"".

GW can't show all the war crime shit immediately mainly for advertisement purposes

I still have zero idea why they thought it was a good idea to make kid books for 40k

And I don't mean like in-universe

I mean actual books for children

[dire loom]

Yeah, I've noticed that a lot too. Seems to be a common pattern. Where there is rebellion, there is some type of chaos involvement. Never fails.

[opaque coyote]

Tbh it's kinda tiring because like

All rebellions?

Really?

I can get why a lot of them fall to Chaos but at least some should just be normalish

And still manage to not get crushed immediately

[dire loom]

Until they have a faction called Super Earth of Freedom and Democracy etc. 2.0 as a huge major opposition and is just as powerful and as large as the Imperium.. doubt it'll ever change. It would be a catastrophic change to the IP lore and Warhammer 40k will no longer be grim dark.

[opaque coyote]

It would be more interesting to the Imperium bring down a genuine rebellion for better conditions than just

"I AM POSSESSED BY THE BLOOD GOD AND NOW I'M FORGETTING ABOUT WANTING ACTUAL FUCKING FOOD. I WANT TO RIP SKULLS OUT."

Like show how monsterous the Imperium is by having a story about a POV of a genuine breakaway attempt.

[dire loom]

Like Galactic Empire vs Rebels? From Star Wars?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah except the Rebels lose

Because Grimdark

[dire loom]

Hard pass, I like roleplaying and playing as the bad guys. More fun.

[opaque coyote]

Basically a system attempts to break away and the Imperium suppresses them

In the end, they are wiped from history. With anybody who was even tangentially related put up against the wall and just

BLAM

And then it just ends with a report stating "Nothing new to report".

Implying that these type of rebellions happen often and are repressed.

[dire loom]

Idk, you'd need a power faction like from Helldivers 2 that's basically Super Earth Federation 2.0 basically. Even then I don't think the whole community would be okay with it if it's rushed etc.

It have to be something like Rouge Trader Iconoclast faction.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I'm not necessarily talking about even a new faction

Just a planet attempting to break away

And then failing

[dire loom]

Even then can't be too wholesome otherwise grim dark reduced to atoms.

Anyways, I'll talk more later, gotta clock back in. Interesting topic though.

[opaque coyote]

Tbh the problem with Grimdark is that to make shadows more apparent, you need light.

I do get your point but I'm just thinking of what's essentially a short book series

About a planet trying to break away

With a group of protagonists. It's a smaller one but there is plenty of hope.

But it seems that the tide of the Imperium is endless

And eventually all get massacred

Since it's implied that the main reason why a lot of Rebellions turn to Chaos in the first place is because of supply

The Imperium has much more people, much more guns, much more vehicles

And unlike say the US Army, Morale isn't that much of an issue

So the only choice is

• Get massacred

• Accept the strange invite for more power to maybe stand a chance

And since the average citizen doesn't know what daemons even are most of the time

It sounds like a good deal

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nGeO2n1DKU4?feature=share

anyone know where this is from?

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/sbO8BGr0Tgs?si=WrzWLLO_M4II9Sef

[snow fern]

That’s incredible

[sour hornet]

Funny

Because its the titans massive machine spirit that blares the horn

it did it solely to aura farm over its vaporized foes

[winter vessel]

I just found out one of the VAs who does the female personalities for the Arbites Class is Devora Wilde, who also VA's Lae'zel from Baldur's Gate 3. cool

[sour hornet]

++ FORTIFICATION DESTROYED ++

++ PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH ++

[sour hornet]

just now?

the released the va info like a week or two before launch or so

One is Law'zel and the other is Lawrillian

Fem Auth is Kerillian

[winter vessel]

I didn't read any of that, was on a mental health break from video games during that time

[sour hornet]

Type shit

[winter vessel]

But i immediately picked up that the Male Authoritarian voice was Mark Takeshi Ota during my character creation of my Arbites

[sour hornet]

He sounds Japanese tbh

very samurai esque vibes from him

strict and regimental

I picked him because his voicelines sounded way aggressive

^ basically how I headcanon my arbitrator

[winter vessel]

Ahhh man I loved playing as this guy on Mortal Kombat 9.

I chose Fatalist. I like his mindset. “Yeah the Lex ain’t perfect. But I’ll still break your shins if you think of an alternative”

[sour hornet]

Bro talks about how people running from him makes his job more fun.

He's also a dick to his dog.

He's a lexbro through and through

im glad we didn't get another savant psyker

[winter vessel]

Honestly I haven’t heard that dialogue yet to implicate that from Fatalist. Then again the subtitles and voice lines don’t match up

[sour hornet]

“I think your Cyber-Mastiff was feeling anxious in the Valkyrie on the ride down.”

“What are you talking about. It doesn't have feelings.”

“Ah. Perhaps then it was suffering from some altitude induced irritation?”

“That's possible.”

[winter vessel]

I’ve had to lower my SFX a bit because hot damn, some Arbites players spam TF out of the marking button. I couldn’t even hear the sound of a trapper winding up her shot and ensnaring me.

[sour hornet]

I set my one-tap to sic my dog and nothing else, I'm tired of pinging relentlessly.

[winter vessel]

Same. I tell ‘em to fetch Scab/Dreg gunners most of the time. It feels oh so nice to finally give the enemy a taste of their own medicine and experience how we felt from getting pounced on by Pox Hounds

[sour hornet]

Nah I do that shit to trappers fam

I just walk up to them while their being gnawed on

“how does it feel now dickhead?”

cathartic

[winter vessel]

Oh yeah I use em on trappers too. It just helps me and my squad out of a bind whenever we have the High-Intensity or Shock Troop Gauntlet. I do that and combine with remote detonation, it’ll break their sustained fire for a bit so we can close in on em

[sour hornet]

Pounce + Dog Bomb is a great disruption method

[winter vessel]

Remote detonation works pretty well on the monstrosities or bosses too. when doing the run where you eliminate the Karnak Twins, all 4 of us ran the same blitz and kept stunning them which prevented them from attacking us sixty percent of the time. we'd coordinate as to who would be using theirs first so we don't waste it at the same time

[languid meadow]

I got harrowmaster

Time to put it on my book pile that I will never touch

[rocky gale]

Finally got Space Marine 2. First mission with the squad so Titus had to snap a pre fight selfie

[outer wave]

I love how serious they look in the background and then you got Titus

[celest dome]

Small question cause we've discussed them before, is Critical and Asmongold not the same person?

[storm jungle]

I dont think so?

[celest dome]

I thought they were

[crisp heath]

they are different people

[storm jungle]

understandable ngl

[celest dome]

But I'm white

[storm jungle]

😔

[static wren]

spoiler tag that name brother my scalp feels itchy just reading it

[celest dome]

Bruh just had a YouTube ad for a small game that use DT's music

[near wasp]

Charlie is a slaneshi cultist, asmon is the herald of papa nurgle

[lofty mason]

How does the Imperium-Aeldari relation work? Imperium has a die-hard policy against xenos, but there are stories where Grey Knights working with them.

Is it mostly like “You do your thing. We do ours. Let’s hope we don’t cross path” kinda thing.

[rocky gale]

Depends

[cinder pivot]

space racism has hierarchies

[rocky gale]

In some sectors there will be a degree of tolerance for them, peace and maybe a little bit of interaction, there can be long standing treaties etc, some it's outright hostility. Nobles and governers tend to end up making deals with them quite often though

Necromunda for example has a spire for xenos guests and diplomats etc

Like the Imperiums official policy is not to trust them/avoid them, but it's best to think of the Imperium as a loose Feudal state made up of many fiefdoms, all the little sectors will have their own history and policies that shape how they act and how they view the Imperiums official policy

[storm jungle]

^

95% of the time tho its outright hostility.

These "friendly" incidents are rare and usually done for teamups against bigger threats like Chaos or Nids etc.

[plush mason]

thanks

[celest dome]

Can simply look at the alliance tables

[celest cedar]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/1lln3ok/21_century_big_e_by_lutherniel/ that went dark

[urban spire]

the imperium has a procedure for sanctioning xenos interactions with imperial society, though it's not really used

and also i've never seen it mentioned outside of a rogue trader rpg splatbook

anyway with regards to xenos and space marines, the marine chapters aren't part of the imperium proper, so it's down to the individual chapter exactly how xenophobic they are

grey knights aren't a traditional chapter, but they also don't officially exist, so they can do whatever the fuck they want

[dapper gyro]

Imperium authority is all over the place.

Most of the time, the higher you are, the more "because I say so" gets a pass.

[urban spire]

yeah it's an empire that spans much of the galaxy where ftl travel is unreliable and ftl comms is done via stellar scale telepathy in a fashion which can at best be eclectic

but also there's a bunch of "what i say goes" type organizations because that's a popular power fantasy

and for all that 40k is satire, it's also written to appeal to boys in like the 11-15 age bracket

[dapper gyro]

For SM, most chapters with the mindset of "for the bigger good of the imperium" are more open minded to xenos.

But then, they are also the most willing to sacrifice others weaker than them because of the same reason.

[urban spire]

i mean, not ALL of it is written like that, but enough that i will never mention i'm into 40k in polite company unless someone else does it first

[queen laurel]

Kill the mutant except the ones with the three eyes because we really need them to move around the galaxy

[urban spire]

it's kinda funny, the position the navigators have in the imperium

if the imperium wasn't technologically stagnant they could have overcome the need for both the astronomican and navigators

unfortunately the richest families in the galaxy have a vested interest in that NEVER CHANGING

[queen laurel]

Hold back the empire for power they say

[urban spire]

me when i prevent the dissemination of knowledge in order to maintain a tech based feudal sub-faction in the evil empire

[queen laurel]

Hey the grind was effective enough to last more than 200 years it must be working

[urban spire]

i'd photoshop musk's face onto a tech priest except that would make me feel much worse about tech priests

[plush mason]

the falchion class is a big frigate

[urban spire]

yeah and that's just a frigate

[queen laurel]

Oh hey it's my go to ship in the game

Of course i always rock up with the biggest ship

[urban spire]

which game is that?

[plush mason]

rogue trader

the falchion is a per order bonus

[urban spire]

ah ok, i never got far enough in rt to get into any ship stuff

i should get back into rt

[plush mason]

the class is just for the look and the starting loadout

[queen laurel]

New dlc just drop too

[plush mason]

yeah and a sale is on rn for Owlcat's birthday

[urban spire]

oh right

is that the last dlc?

if there's more dlc it is unfortunately best to wait for me, because there's no way i have more than one playthrough in me

[plush mason]

nah they have 2 more planned and announced

[urban spire]

ah, naturally

[queen laurel]

There are more coming

[urban spire]

the curse of modern crpgs

[queen laurel]

Look i want to kill people multiple times in multiple adventures it's a good thing

[plush mason]

idk if there will be as many dlcs as WotR had

hell just with the 2 we have rn the total play time is up to 160 hours lmao

[urban spire]

oof

[queen laurel]

Yeah this game is a hilarious if you're a completionist

[plush mason]

and one of the upcoming ones is a rogue-lite similar to the isles dlc for wrath

[queen laurel]

Unfortunately you're going to have to figure out everything on your own because the guides for this game are still rather

Uhh

Garbage

[plush mason]

yeah they are

[plush mason]

at least i assume processional of the damned will be a rogue-lite

[near wasp]

How long do interragtors serve generally before getting promoted to proper inquistors

[storm jungle]

As ever it depends.

every Inquisitor has their own modis operandi

[near wasp]

Fan friggin tastic

[storm jungle]

Just make shit up

warhammer is built to encourage it lol

[near wasp]

I know that I was just hoping for an average

[storm jungle]

The average is a few years

[queen laurel]

Averages in warhammer ain't really averages either you know

[near wasp]

For my story my character probably would have to take longer given he'd have to break out of his knightly habits

[storm jungle]

That relies on how much of a hardass his Inquisitor is

its basically like an RPG team, he needs to earn his XP and show his keep

[near wasp]

Fair

Just trying not to make the concept of a knight inquistor a Gary Sue.

[storm jungle]

Its only gary sue if hes like some unstoppable super-twat

An Inquisitor can literally come from anywhere so dont worry

his explication years can be anything from like 10-15 years or so if you are making him start in his 25's or 30's

then can just handwave it with age rejuvinations

[near wasp]

Fuckkkkkkk I just remembered something I haven't written in a sacrostan either

[queen laurel]

It can literally be some poor guy on a sewer that just got lucky and met an inquisitor on investigation

[urban spire]

interrogator is a trusted position with a lot of power within the retinue, or almost no power within the retinue and it's just a position

[near wasp]

In the story that my buddy is writing, my character is the inquistor of the warband and I'm going through and writing the backstory for the inquisitor. So at that point I was thinking he'd be at least a century maybe two

[storm jungle]

Its very much always a position of power within the retinue, you are the side-lackey to generally the entire warband

[urban spire]

ravenor's retinue treats his interrogator like he's some precocious boy detective and constantly takes the piss

[storm jungle]

yeah but thats ravenor

those books are like a decade old

[urban spire]

AND THEY'RE GOOD

[storm jungle]

boooo

🗣️

[urban spire]

i like them

i like books that aren't about the forever war

[fleet mist]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FTV20ffWhJs?si=a5hNjW0K4GxUKjBv

[storm jungle]

Also yeah that also works, but id keep it below 100 years at least, at that point they'd be extremely old. Its good to give them some flaws/negatives as long as you make it believable enough with the right excuses

[urban spire]

i love seeing life in the imperium outside of the context of war, i think that shit is so much more interesting than anything that has ever happened on the frontlines, or anything that ever involved a space marine

[storm jungle]

Warhammer Crime baybeeee

[near wasp]

Thanks

[urban spire]

need to read that

in fact, let me just skip that to the top of my reading list

[storm jungle]

it has a lot of stories

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warhammer_Crime

Pick your poison

[urban spire]

oh i thought it was an anthology

[storm jungle]

it has 5 anthologies

and 5 novels

its PACKED with content

[urban spire]

well it's on audible, should i just start at the beginning?

[storm jungle]

If you want to read em all yep

[near wasp]

You know I was kinda at a stall trying to figure out how a freeblade would stay stocked up on gear for a decade but then I thought about it. He'd probably just marry into a rouge trader line.

[storm jungle]

theres SOME reoccuring characters so release order read-through is the best

[storm jungle]

Theres many ways

freeblades are mercs at the end of teh day remember

[urban spire]

i'll stick to that then

[queen laurel]

I mean it could be war zones or they could just you know hit up the old house for stuff

Many many ways they could restock their weaponry

[storm jungle]

You can get supplies from doing favors

travelling with crusades

etc

[urban spire]

apropos of novels, do the kin have any yet?

[storm jungle]

just 1

[urban spire]

any good?

[storm jungle]

Eh its okay

they got nothing atm so prob worth a read lol

[urban spire]

sure why not

what's a freeblade?

[storm jungle]

a knight that has become a mercenary

basically an outcast noble with a big robot

[urban spire]

ah ok, explains why i've never heard the term, don't know shit about knights

[near wasp]

Thanks keep that in mind, he can't really go to his house anymore because the planet was lost

[urban spire]

they're icky!

[storm jungle]

wow rude

[near wasp]

Cin I'll fight you

[urban spire]

being rude to nobility is a moral imperative

[queen laurel]

Says the the person that has the pfp of a version of sienna that is a volatile walking bomb

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-the-bosnian-knight-bosnia-knight-gif-27282235

[urban spire]

i support women's wrongs

[storm jungle]

If you ever get curious about something pro tip just google "[question here] reddit 40klore", there will LIKELY be a thread for it

Example here

if theres no satisfying answer then you can prob ask here lmao

because r40klore can be grognardy

[near wasp]

I know I just like asking y'all because y'all are wayyy better than reddit

[storm jungle]

Lmao my last point exactly

because for example when you ask that Inquisitor knight question i foudn a thread

the top answer is like

"Urmh no"

and the one below it is

"Yeah sure why not"

lmao

[near wasp]

Exactly

Nobody on Reddit can agree

[storm jungle]

But yeah basically remember 40k works on excuses. If its plausible enough it will work.

[dire loom]

Classic

[storm jungle]

Theres very much a limit but an Inquisitor with a knight is like really not that big of a deal

[urban spire]

as long as something doesn't violate one of the unwritten mysteries

[queen laurel]

The one thing reddit is only consistently good in is providing you answers to very specific problems

That's it

[near wasp]

I mean a knight could make a good inquisitor purely because knight houses are wrought with intrigue

[queen laurel]

Everything is canon not everything is true moment

[urban spire]

incidentally, i'm a big fan of the mysteries

idk if there's a proper name for it, just the vacuums of information in 40k lore that everyone has just mutually agreed not to touch

sometimes because it's better as a mystery, other times because there used to be lore about it but it was really fucking cringe so let's pretend that never happened

[arctic talon]

I think the big thing for a knight pilot inqusitor

Is needing the augments for it

Beyond that if they’re from a suitable bloodline there’s 0 issue

[queen laurel]

Pilots are not allowed to keep their imperial knights if they become inquisitors right

[arctic talon]

The beast akshully invented Ork Kulture and clans

[near wasp]

I mean it's there knight until they die

It's bonded to them

[urban spire]

who's gonna tell them no? a lord inquisitor?

a straight up high lord of terra?

[near wasp]

Exactly

[urban spire]

i guess if it would cause a big diplomatic stink

[queen laurel]

Why do you think i'm asking ?

KNightworlds are also notorious prick heads

[urban spire]

(icky)

[queen laurel]

They mightn't go on a big beluga about why some inquisitor not even loyal to them anymore is keeping one of their big shiny toys

[arctic talon]

Idfk

It could depend

[near wasp]

Good thing the planet gets destoried in my story cause I'm not gonna touch that issue with a ten foot pole

[queen laurel]

This elite wolf reply

Shit

Looks like it's a fuck it we ball

[rocky gale]

The Key to enjoying 40k is making shit up, like I just got Wraithguard and a Wraithlord for my Drukhari

"But Drukhari don't have Wraith Constructs because they don't use wraithbone or soulstones" I hear some nerd in the distance cry and I simply ignore those feeble cries because Wraith constructs are cool and I want my Drukhari to have them.

[urban spire]

how independent are knight worlds from the rest of the imperium?

[rose thorn]

yarr

[queen laurel]

I'm not going to spoil the book but literally the plot line of this one is literally just sending three assassins at one night world to keep it from falling over

That's how important they are

This reached all the way to terra

[rocky gale]

Also just remembered in path of the Archon that Vect has corrupted Wraith Constructs that he calls Castigators, so double checkmate.

[queen laurel]

You want those giant war machines to be on your side not on the enemy

[urban spire]

which book?

[queen laurel]

Assassination king maker

[near wasp]

The assassin order legit bypassed all bureaucracy

[urban spire]

huh