40k-lore-chat

[opaque coyote]

Crisis averted

[outer wave]

Sad

Im sure they're mostly fine folks

[plush mason]

the protests in the streets of old town and the attempted reforming of Parliament proves that

[terse kestrel]

If Israel wasn’t constantly at war they could work on being a better place

[plush mason]

they arent willing to let the Zionists use them and their faith as a scapegoat for territorial expansion and hegemony

[outer wave]

Now they're in two conflicts, even if one of them has basically died off

[opaque coyote]

All I can say is

The UN making sure that we have an area that will always constantly be at war:

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-emperor-of-man-emperor-gif-12094981323200160207

[plush mason]

it aint the UN's fault

they dont have the power to do anything

and never have

[opaque coyote]

Heard it was Britain's mainly

[plush mason]

nah that was back in the start

the modern conflicts only use that to justify the ambitions of the current leaders

[terse kestrel]

This move for me kind of confirms that nobody actually has any form of nuclear defence, at least somewhat.

Which was already backed by science basically

[opaque coyote]

We kinda do but it's more like it using one of those tiny rounded shields against a hail of arrows

You're still gonna die

[terse kestrel]

I think once its in orbit it can’t actually be stopped

Even if it blows up near atmosphere I think it still deals a significant amount of damage but I can’t remember what actually happens.

[opaque coyote]

Partially for EMP purposes specifically to get rid of defenses

[plush mason]

tbc Iran is not making ICBMs

[opaque coyote]

Nuclear Bombs also specifically blow up midair for the maximum amount of damage

[plush mason]

they are making short ranged missiles

think the tomahawk cruise missile

which is a missile that can carry a nuclear warhead

but all info says they are still years away from a working warhead

no this war is nothing but a power grab by a man that has lost the support of the people he claims to stand for

[tough haven]

Also I’m fairly certain the information they’re going off of to justify this has been known since like early 2012?

[plush mason]

yes it has

thats why Net tossed in the claim that the 2 assassination attempts on Trump during the campaign where carried out by Iran

a claim not even FOX news was willing to believe

and they where the ones giving the interview when he said it lol

[terse kestrel]

It’s pretty insane how everyone just dropped looking into that first guy who had his apartment scrubbed

They near instantly cremated him too lol

[plush mason]

bah

if anything that just makes it less likely it was a foreign action

[terse kestrel]

Even if he was a nobody acting independently, I don’t even really think they said that. They literally just said absolutely nothing

[plush mason]

oh they did

[terse kestrel]

I highly doubt it was foreign, I’d sooner believe he was cia again tbh

[plush mason]

iirc his motive was to get back at his Trump supporting father

the 2nd guy had an even wilder motive

he was a Swifty

and got pissed at Trump's little spat with her

[terse kestrel]

You would kill someone and commit a heinous terrorist act to get back at your father? He’d have to be on some insane drugs

[plush mason]

did you see how skiny that fucker was?

[terse kestrel]

I’m just glad Luigi is still getting some coverage.

[plush mason]

he will walk purely on the suspect nature of the evidence handling

let alone the notorious difficulty in proving terrorism charges

[terse kestrel]

He has done a lot to link himself to the obvious murder, but yeah it is essentially a lot of best guesses which I don’t know how it works. I’d be surprised if he even stayed in America after

[plush mason]

what has he done exactly?

he maintains he didnt do it

[terse kestrel]

Didn’t he have a manifesto that kind of implied he did or something

[plush mason]

the only evidence linking him to the killing is suspect due to the improper handling carried out by the officers

[plush mason]

that was found in the backpack in question along side the gun all of which was improperly handled

[terse kestrel]

I remember his original arrest was odd, he didn’t have the same jacket or shirt, his facial features didn’t entirely match, and then him getting caught to begin with was weird, because apparently some teenage girl identified him somehow? Lol

[plush mason]

yup

it was all very suspect

[terse kestrel]

There were a lot of lookalikes doing trolling, but his background and motives somewhat fit the bill of maybe doing it compared to the thousands of other lookalike idiots roaming around

Their initial evidence is shit for sure though

[plush mason]

he will still walk even if he did it purely due to the technicality

aint the courts just grand

[terse kestrel]

I would say its more the killer being way too good. The bullets were clean, and he was pretty well covered up, alongside entering the city as a ghost

[plush mason]

iirc they have all the same augments as first born only plus a few extra

[opaque coyote]

I still think it was insane that

Tucker Carlson interviewed I think either Ted or Vance

And he was just baffled

By their lack of knowledge and professionalism

Tucker fucking Carlson

How the fuck do you do that

[plush mason]

Tucker was never part of the MAGA cult, he only milked them for fame

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but you'd think he would be used to it

[plush mason]

thats the one good thing i can say about him

[opaque coyote]

How TF do you make a guy who probably heard a lot of crazy shit

And due to his scam, having to act like normal

Break his act

[plush mason]

because in the fist Trump term the cabinet was full of people that actually knew what they where doing

so Tucker likely expected the same deal

not what happened

[opaque coyote]

I still am sad that we haven't done like a French revolution level thing yet.

Trump literally thinks a flight from San Francisco to Los Angeles costs $2

[arctic talon]

Add like

2 0’s

And we’re getting there

[plush mason]

Trump learned to fill his supporting posts with idiots that will be totally loyal to him and him alone

[opaque coyote]

King Louis and Marie Antoinette probably was more connected to society than Trump is

Actually Marie definitely was

[plush mason]

yeah

he is a man that has never worked a day in his life and thinks America has too many non work holidays

[opaque coyote]

God I wish we had too many

[plush mason]

so random question, if i had a dime for every imperial saint that was killed by their own congregation, how many dimes would i have?

[terse kestrel]

I don’t really understand where people got the idea that the olden times were so hard. They were easy enough where there’s cave paintings of them tripping balls, and maintaining crops to sustain a family isn’t that time consuming. The obvious challenges are weather or events wiping out your food

I feel like people never worked harder than they do now

[plush mason]

that is likely true

[opaque coyote]

I remember a criticism of Democracy from Socrates, who was basically the most outspoken about the concept in Ancient Greece.

Although a lot of his ideas are outdated and extremely uh... assholeish. I mean it's from Ancient Fucking Greece ffs.

His main criticism was that democracy relies on the education of the people.

...I feel like we've gotten to that problem.

[plush mason]

no one works for themselves or community ether as well, the vast majority have their work taken and used by those well above their station

[outer wave]

I assume its because no one wants to start the plunge; its stressful and no one knows where to start, not to mention the predictable reaction the government would have to such a movement

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact that on a simple level

I don't want to die

Neither does anybody

[outer wave]

Yeah no one wants to even for a cause they believe in

[terse kestrel]

I just watched a bungie documentary going over the greed of the early 2000’s and it’s a real shame how steady the decline is

[opaque coyote]

Yes

[arctic talon]

I’d say people under feudalism as peasants probably lived harder lives

[plush mason]

maybe

[opaque coyote]

Honestly 100%.

[plush mason]

but that is more the limits of the times

[opaque coyote]

Still doesn't mean that right now doesn't fucking suck

But back then also sucked ass as well

[plush mason]

i say things suck as much as it did back then but in different ways and reasons

[outer wave]

^

[terse kestrel]

But how many people lived under that and how long did it last

[opaque coyote]

The majority and most of the history of human civilization

[terse kestrel]

He’s describing English feudalism which was bad, but it’s possible it could be better in other places I honestly don’t know

[opaque coyote]

Look at the entirety of Chinese history

[terse kestrel]

Japan actually seemed kinda decent but I’m talking out my ass

[plush mason]

it wasnt

[opaque coyote]

Actually just the entire Asian and European continent

[terse kestrel]

America didn’t really have it, I don’t think South America had it until the Spanish conquered them

[opaque coyote]

A majority of the Roman Empire's population were slaves ffs

And I don't mean figuratively. Like actual slaves

Same with Sparta before it

We generally have gotten higher in living standards

Objectively.

[terse kestrel]

Yeah, peace is also very nice

[plush mason]

actually English feudalism was one of the better forms, bcause the English nobility had some resect for the lower classes and looked to the merchents and tradesmen as good stock for their families

they didnt have the blue blood view of things, at least not the level of main land Europe

[opaque coyote]

Basically, I am thankful for not living in times where I can die by getting my paper cut infected.

But at the same time, it could be so much better.

Be thankful for what you have, but strive for more if you can.

[terse kestrel]

I think english feudalism had them working almost as slaves, working their own fields then working for the kings labour on their days off. But yeah english feudalism was probably the most civilized and peaceful comparatively

[opaque coyote]

And generally I don't want the world to be blown up

[terse kestrel]

It’s genuinely insane how much history England has

[plush mason]

that was for the serfs and they had a lot more serfs in France than England

[opaque coyote]

And also don't forget Russia. Which was so bad that Communism basically exploded from there

[plush mason]

yeah

the farther east you go the worse it gets as a general rule of thumb

[opaque coyote]

Only for it to basically be another form of Feudalism but with extra steps

[plush mason]

thanks Wilhelm

[opaque coyote]

Stalin moment

The second funniest part about his death (the first part is well known)

Is that he was also severely anti-Semitic and was looking to purge Jewish doctors

But he got the stroke

And the Russians had to rush to get a doctor

Because guess fucking what

Most of them were purged

Twice

By Stalin

Why the fuck do they go after the doctors

That literally NEVER ENDS WELL

[plush mason]

i heard he had an aneurism, pissed himself and died and was lying in the pool of piss for a day before some officers worked up the nerve to go see if he was ok

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's true

Although he wasn't dead yet

He was just paralyzed

[plush mason]

even more fitting

[opaque coyote]

So yes, he was fully aware while laying in a puddle of his piss

[opaque coyote]

Also at first they didn't even call for a doctor when they found him

They were still so scared that they contacted the general secretary I believe?

[plush mason]

huh

wasnt that Stalin?

[opaque coyote]

Okay so

When Stalin died

[plush mason]

afaik he had kept the title that had allowed him to steal control from Linin and his supporters

[opaque coyote]

The staff that found his comatose body had the immediate consensus to call the doctors

But instead waited for Party Officials

Also I checked

They got the order to call a doctor from Beria (ewewew)

[dapper gyro]

Lenin was discarded long before.

[vapid pollen]

Wait is this part of the warhammer lore too

[plush mason]

lmao

[vapid pollen]

Stalin is part of warhammer history??

[opaque coyote]

Technically not incorrect.

[dapper gyro]

By the end of the 2nd WW, no one can really challenge Stalin.

[opaque coyote]

[plush mason]

ofc, because Stalin as general secretary controlled the committees

[opaque coyote]

Also the severe atmosphere of fear

[plush mason]

and controlled the apointments to those committees

[plush mason]

yup

[opaque coyote]

Anybody that even had a slight hint of any sort of rebellion just got

Shot

[plush mason]

or sent to a death camp in the middle of no where

[lapis verge]

Mhm

gulag in Siberia

[dapper gyro]

Zhukov was one of the few people can say no to Stalin without getting killed, but even him had to retreat out of political table.

[opaque coyote]

Fun fact about Nikita Kruschev. When he was in Stalin's Inner Circle, he was basically known for his jokes. None of the other inner circle really knew why he was there. It was a common joke amongst them that he was kept around because he was funny.

But he also took his jokes very seriously

Every night he recounted each and every joke he told

Which one was funny, which one was not, with his wife helping him note down each and every one

Which topics to avoid, which topics Stalin found funny, etc.

[plush mason]

cant blame him, if he ever pissed off Stalin he would be dead

[dapper gyro]

Stalin created the version of Communism that people think of default communism, though it is not even close. Too bad, some leader of that land is trying to do the same...

[opaque coyote]

All I can say is

It pays to be the Jester

It also helps that the only other real choice to replace Stalin was basically somebody who beats Epstein and P. Diddy in fucking repulsive he is.

Beria.

Makes the choice really fucking easy as a result.

Honestly, reading the shit Beria did, makes me wish Hell exists.

[languid meadow]

I mean beria tried to take over after Stalin but wasn't malenkov the official successor all along?

Since he was deputy general secretary or something

[astral burrow]

Second exam time, wish luck

[arctic talon]

it was as bad if not worse

Chinese feudalism was def worse under certain dynasties lol or late into one

[winter vessel]

Finally got to watch the most recent episode of TADC.

||Maid Jax was not something I expected||

joking aside, this episode really brought a lot of Caine's pettiness into light

[languid meadow]

||https://fxtwitter.com/xXBlushyXx/status/1936587719804879229|| it's peak

♡𝑩𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒉𝒚♡ ‼️TADC SPOILERS‼️ (@xXBlushyXx)

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[winter vessel]

||https://x.com/Ivzura/status/1936204911492129219||

[languid meadow]

Best character

[winter vessel]

definitely deserves an oscar after such a brief performance

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/bread_nought/status/1936580560337465623

Orikan the diviner (@bread_nought)

Get the heavy fla-
︀︀
︀︀SHUT UP!!!! YOU ARENT FUNNY!!! IT WAS FUNNY THE FIRST TIME BUT NOT THE NINE TRILLIONTH

Quoting Jackson (@Jackson61689330)
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“I am Alphar-”

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[plush mason]

i love that canonically even some members of the alpha legion get annoyed by that quote

[winter vessel]

yeah that brief excerpt from Renegades Harrowmaster: ‘I am Alpharius,’ said the foremost, and the entire chamber erupted.

‘You are not!’ bellowed Jarvul Glaine, the translucent-skinned leader of the Shrouded Hand, his voice rising above the general chorus of derision that greeted this statement.

[plush mason]

i was talking about the one where the alpha legionnaire threatened to open every hatch on the ship they where in and kill everyone on board if the other marine finished the quote

[languid meadow]

Based of him honestly

[winter vessel]

has the same vibe of this one comment i read where a guy would not hesitate to open the emergency exit on a plane mid flight if he was stuck on it filled with Taylor Swift Fans singing in their seats

[celest dome]

@vagrant fox new Big top burger

[hexed trail]

Was just playing rogue trader void shadows DLC and got hit with a curve ball of one of my favourite characters being a gene stealer and I felt so bad because I know no matter how much I want to spare him and his family it is better to wipe out any Tyranid and their gene stealers

[opaque coyote]

Also it shows why Gooseworx said sorry to all the Jax X Ragatha shippers

Since their interactions, severe pettiness that somehow outrivals Caine, and also Jax explicitly knowing what makes Ragatha tick makes me think that they were Ex lovers.

[opaque coyote]

Gl man

Gl

[opaque coyote]

Also I still have the theory that all of the inhabitants are all copied consciousness. After all if you can make NPCs real enough to have a existential crisis. You certainly can make copies of people.

I think that Caine was made to specifically distract them from ever finding out.

Caine never makes a true exit because well

They can't.

At least for them.

And having them find out they aren't even the "real" people would probably have catch a severe case of abstraction

Also it is confirmed that Pomni and Zoobel found the headsets in an abandoned looking area

And considering that the game, from an outside point of view, is supposed to look like 90s CGI.

Yeah most likely a lot of the inhabitants were just people who stumbled into it

Although definitely not all of them

[cinder pivot]

Maid Jax 😳

[celest dome]

Fair

Thing I switched with the combat shotgun which can fire from 2 different range template

[languid badge]

Got it

[astral burrow]

Exams done

[wintry scarab]

Anyone have the new Darktide OSTs yet?

[plush mason]

random question, do we know the pre-fall sobriquet of the Mobian 6th and if they changed it or not post-fall?

[sly ivy]

And?

How go

[sly ivy]

Yes progress is real

… definitely don’t look too closely at how things were for the non-priestly non-lordly classes in precolumbian New World civs either 😬

Weirdly Egypt, despite having a god-emperor, was maybe the earliest civilization that conferred some kind of dignity and some set of legal rights to the common (free) man?

Egyptian law is the basis for all Western law. Women could own property, sue, and testify.

There’s a court case from I think the Middle Kingdom where a woman got divorced then sued her husband for his workshops

And won

[golden imp]

So I know there is a point in the pysker power spectrum where they are simply unstable raving bombs ready to explode

Is there a similar madness that comes with very high blank powers?

[plush mason]

tfw a god-king from over 4k years ago understands that happy well feed and well paid workers are more efficient and dedicated

[golden imp]

Or just the people around the blank?

[sly ivy]

Rip Emp was vacationing in America ripping people’s hearts out at the time I guess

[dapper gyro]

Sniper shotgun... If anyone shoots slug in real life, it is horribly inaccurate. If you say that it uses the same round as a bolter, then why bother to use that instead of a bolter...

[plush mason]

if only the would-be god kings of today would learn the same lession from Egypt

[sly ivy]

This is actually a legit point in that progress has made qol so good, esp for people in extraordinarily per capita wealthy countries like the US, that people are willing to take hits if leaders pay lip service to some ideology.

(The US really is extraordinarily wealthy. I think the average European would be shocked at the personal wealth and property size of “low class” Americans — not shitting on euros actually just being serious. I also shit on euros but not rn)

In other words we’re too comfortable. Retvrn 2 Egyptian peasantry

Also they were very stylish no homo

[plush mason]

if they are then they have fallen for a lie

next to no one in the US owns land anymore

deeds are insanely rare now a days and even with one mortgages and other systems insure someone at a bank or the government can take it when they want to/need to

and with the average US household making around 72k a year most Americans are living just above the poverty line

America also has some of the highest cost of living in the world afaik, and some of the highest healthcare costs

but sure on paper and devoid of context the US is a nation of insane wealth

and thats all the government needs to make itself look good to the outside world

[sly ivy]

This isn’t true. Or at least property. The home ownership rate is like 66%

People who live in big cities have skewed povs

[plush mason]

home ownership and land ownership are not the same thing

sure if your house is fully paid off you own it

[sly ivy]

I was talking property then. And many homes come with land.

[plush mason]

you do not own the plot of land it is on

[plush mason]

none do

[sly ivy]

What you own the lot unless it’s a condo

[plush mason]

owning a house in a neighborhood does not convey any land ownership rights to the plot the house is on even if the house is fully paid for

the plot is owned by the city

[sly ivy]

What

This is rare

[plush mason]

though it is yours to do with as you wish

[sly ivy]

Outside of big cities

Are you American?

This simply isn’t true for most of the country

[plush mason]

yes and i live in suburbia

[sly ivy]

What state?? This is not the normal state of affairs

[celest dome]

In my country you buy the land, but then you have holding taxes.

And I think un America you can also buy land.

[sly ivy]

Yeah you’re certainly taxed out the ass

[tough haven]

Houses are also very very scarce compared to populations, various groups prevent construction of new or affordable/mass housing as this lowers property values through an increase of supply, and they want to maintain high values for selling purposes

In the US

[celest dome]

@plush mason do you mean mineral rights ?

[tough haven]

There’s not enough to go around

[plush mason]

no i mean land ownership rights

[sly ivy]

You can say all this but you have to show stats. There is a housing crunch right now it’s true.

I know believe me I’ve been on the market in fucking Connecticut

[tough haven]

And even apartments are few and far between, and the ones that are, are around 900-1200 per month

[sly ivy]

but broadly speaking worse than before doesn’t mean people actually can’t find houses / apartments etc. They can’t find them exactly where they want to be or configure how they wish.

[plush mason]

if we had full ownership of the land we lived on we woudlnt have to get permission to build on it

[sly ivy]

(This doesn’t mean it’s good. It’s bad, relatively speaking.)

[celest dome]

Owning the land doesn't mean that it's not under the laws of the area...

[sly ivy]

Bro I kinda think you’re just talking out your ass. Look up your state’s laws.

Sometimes mineral rights etc. are reserved

[celest dome]

This sound like those Sovereign citizen miss reading of the law

Pretty much every time. Even in Europe those are under different right unless they're surface level

[sly ivy]

Like real bad comparatively. Like I said I’m suffering from this shit I’m not happy. But the starting point was real good.

[tough haven]

I mean I was involved trying to find my girlfriend a place to live when she was on the brink of homelessness while working 3 jobs, we found 2 apartments total within a 30 mile radius in the city over 3 months , one which was eaten up immediately and the other she barely makes rent for with 3 jobs if and only if she buys no food and nothing else all month

[copper patrol]

oft times mineral rights can be sold separately to the land rights as well iirc

[tough haven]

Circumstantial evidence though, I’ll admit

[tough haven]

Only gets by because I help her with buying necessities

[copper patrol]

sounds more like a "local" problem then an entire U.S one, not that it doesn't occur in other parts of the U.S

[plush mason]

unless things have changed from when i was younger the difference between having the deed to the land and the deed to home is as followed because i have lived in both situations, when we owned the deed to the land we where able to dig a well without getting permission from the city, when we moved into the neighborhood we had to get permission from the city to lay the foundation for the shed out back

[sly ivy]

Yeah all I can say is that sucks and also the stats are prob skewed by some people’s getting off the market, moving in with parents, etc.

[copper patrol]

but remember the U.S is fucking huge and has a shit load of different laws, systems, problems and "ecosystems" for various things

I put it earlier that the U.S is 50 countries in a trench coat

[sly ivy]

There are some condo etc situations where housing developments specifically have people not own the land but those are usually a small percentage of developments because they’re not as attractive

[tough haven]

Yeah that’s why you can’t accurately make sweeping statements on it’s financial stability like you were earlier

[sly ivy]

Except for like retired people or whatever bc sometimes the development does yard care

[sly ivy]

Well no whenever talking about a large population you can’t make any kind of general statement without being locally wrong. But one still needs to be able to make general statements and usually those involve stats like the 65.whatever percent home ownership.

[plush mason]

we dont live in a condo thankfully, and again things can have easily changed from then to now

[sly ivy]

It really is. Sort of.

Possibly more like NYC is a country fight me

Why else would I have to pay fucking city taxes that mirror the state taxes lmao

[plush mason]

megacities are always micro-nations to some extent

especially when geographically separated from the surrounding area

and while i will concede that things have improved in terms of land ownership i will never tolerate the lie that the US is a wealthy nation, not when we have such high cost of living and those that profit off of said cost have the power to keep prices high and millions of our citizens are living in near starvation if not full starvation

[sly ivy]

I mean that’s semantics but

If you go by the common definitions of wealthy nation etc

I’m not making a claim about economic stratification etc

Re starvation

This is the world economic forum’s global social mobility index

[plush mason]

i just cant trust most of this data because i cant trust the agencies reporting it

[sly ivy]

…… would you like to collect your own data? What agencies do you trust?

That’s honestly like a conspiracy theorist kind of debate tactic.

[plush mason]

i know but with this it is likely the case, why would nations trying to claim the title of super power make themselves look worse by reporting the truth?

[sly ivy]

I don’t know of any data that contradict these general pictures, including self-mined data by academic economists.

I mean Iran and North Korea put out propaganda videos claiming to be superpowers lmao. Every banana republic does. But the proof ultimately is in the pudding. The US can kick anyone’s shit in militarily without lifting a finger and the US and arguably China can do the same economically.

They don’t need random stats as support.

[plush mason]

true

still doesnt mean the common people in ether place see any of that power or wealth

[sly ivy]

It doesn’t mean that but data suggest that they do.

You can argue about the merits of being lower income in various Western countries but there are only like 5 or 6 in contention, including the US. It’s better to be low income in the top say 8 developed countries than relatively high income most other places.

Anecdotes are worthless but I can say that this is certainly true for my family in the US / Canada vs extended family in India lmao

[plush mason]

https://www.globalhungerindex.org/ranking.html

the fact the US has no data from the 2000s onwards is very telling imo

[sly ivy]

Dude really that’s a conspiracy theory kinda thing. But ok.

Also the US will score lower in part because the population is way more varied than like Western Europe.

Anyway ask anyone outside of the top however many countries whether they’d rather live in America haha.

Progress should continue though. Standard of living should keep improving. Housing crisis is worrying.

But progress with some jitters has happened. Is happening.

Globally all kinds of stats from childhood disease to literacy are improving steadily and have been for decades.

[plush mason]

ofc

[sly ivy]

Things are good and getting better. Stay the course etc. (and build more houses)

Every generation always screams about the End of Everything etc etc but

[plush mason]

also we need to stop comparing first world countries to second and third world ones, if we are going to go through the troblem of making these development level classifications we should use them to judge countries within the brackets

[sly ivy]

Why tho

Reality is reality. Idc whether India is like S tier within the shit tier bracket. You couldn’t offer me enough money or virgins to take my family back there.

… ok how many virgins

[plush mason]

im not saying that

im looking at it from the pov of "judge the country on it's own merits" not "which one would i rather live in"

because i dont care if things are statistically worse in Ireland than they are in America, i would much rather live in Ireland

[sly ivy]

I am not sure you really would honestly lmao

Do you know any Irish people?

I do.

[plush mason]

a few years ago i would never consider it but Ireland has made more progress on equal rights than America has in that time

so

[sly ivy]

k

[plush mason]

for someone with my views and mental disabilities anywhere in Europe near about offers me a higher standard of living and better safety than the US ever has or likely will

[sly ivy]

k. Glad there’s a choice. May there be more and more as hopefully the world’s economies improve.

Though some of them need… there are issues.

Many many many issues

[plush mason]

so its pointless for me to judge the US on wither or not i would want to live here as that is already a done deal

[sly ivy]

And those issues aren’t ermagerd imperialism capitalism they’re internal

But still. Hope.

[plush mason]

oh there isnt, i have no shot of becoming a citizen of any nation

so im stuck in the US shithole as it slides back into the 1920s but thats my lot in life

[sly ivy]

I hope not. I don’t think we will.

I am in favor of a big state and/or federal social safety net. I’m sorry you’re unhappy.

[plush mason]

bah dont be, and i know things in the US are better than a lot of other places

i just cant stand it when people call this country great

no country in the world is great

[sly ivy]

There’s a good argument there I think. I don’t necessarily agree… I don’t think? But there’s a good one.

Have you read much Tolstoy? He’s not the deepest philosopher but he ponders these things in a heartfelt visceral way in War and Peace.

[golden imp]

Is a marine in terminator armor still faster then a regular human running?

[plush mason]

most cant run in it

[sly ivy]

No I can run way faster than 5 inches per movement phase. I can run at least… at least… five… feet.

If I get a rest in the middle

[plush mason]

oh you mean the human running, um idk

[golden imp]

Yeah I’m wondering if a human moving full speed is faster then a terminator moving fast as it can

Cause I know regular armored marine is way faster

[plush mason]

i want to say yes purely because termi armor is made to be slow and powerful

[misty vector]

I think the terminator would be faster

[sly ivy]

Vibes say terminator still faster than squishy mortal

[rocky gale]

Terminators got a 5" move, Cadians got 6" move, so humans faster

[glossy sonnet]

I like ultramarines

[copper patrol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1168995458681679883/1172328790379200635/PsychicAssault.gif

[sly ivy]

That’s bc a 2000 point force isn’t enough 2 worry a termi to the point of running

[plush mason]

lmao

does terminator armor still have a teleporter built in?

or did it ever?

[copper patrol]

was it built in? I know they do teleport them into places

but idk if it was built in or not, but if it wasn't why not just teleport marines in all the time

[plush mason]

the only time i can remember hearing that they have a teleporter in th armor was DOW so im not sure how canon that is

[misty vector]

That might just be on select terminators

[misty vector]

Huh neat

[copper patrol]

wait, but if I look on the teleport homer page it's just a thing they use to get the location easier rather then the acutal teleport mechanism

[plush mason]

ok so they have a homer on armor not the teleporter device

[languid meadow]

They just need a ship capable of teleporting which if you have termies you should have said ship

[copper patrol]

now I am more confused

[sly ivy]

The real answer is the teleport club is composed entirely of termies and every year they vote down the measure to expand membership

[copper patrol]

it says that the new saturnine ones can just teleport around the battlefield💀

[languid meadow]

I mean that's saturnine so I say it doesn't count

[plush mason]

yeah

[misty vector]

So you need a teleporter machine, the terminator homer and a destination homer?

[plush mason]

yeah teleporting for the imperium is a complex and risky prospect

[languid meadow]

Fuck it up and you can end up halfway through a planet or just in space

[plush mason]

afaik only the Custodians have the tech needed to make save and accurate teleports consistently

[languid meadow]

I bet grey knights have it as well it's just never mentioned

[plush mason]

true

[copper patrol]

aren't all grey knights in terminator armor anyway?

[plush mason]

not always

[misty vector]

and youre saying it only transports matter?

[plush mason]

they have standard power armor versions as well

but the GK do have a lot more terminators than most other chapters

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Aegis_Armour

[sly ivy]

They mostly stay in their terminator armor because they’re embarrassed about their height

[plush mason]

i didnt know Malleus also had the Aegis

[copper patrol]

I mean grey knights are a part of that ordo, i'd assume they make them share some of their toys

[sly ivy]

This is as it should be

Chamber mil of the ordo mal

But

They’ve sort of soft retconned this which is stupid

[plush mason]

afaik even most of the ordo had no idea the GK even exist so i expected stuff like the Aegis to be exclusive to them alone

[sly ivy]

The original arrangement completely made sense because it mirrors Sigilite leadership of the proto gks

Baseline human (perpetual but still not transhuman, plus he had all his underlings) leadership of transhuman daemon hunters

As it should be

Now it’s like noooooo the gks are independent sort of but they’re sort of not but it’s sort of expected that they do what the ordo says but also…

Bruh

[plush mason]

i guess because the SoB are also a chamber militant while also being an independant faction they wanted to the make the GK the same way?

[sly ivy]

Ya which was also a change for the Sisters

I mean I’m complaining but it does make some sense.

The grey knights are so incredibly powerful as individuals. It doesn’t entirely make sense that they’d be 100% subordinate to a bunch of mortals who happened to go to space Harvard

[plush mason]

btw, was there ever any evidence Vandire was corrupted by chaos and not just an evil asshole bent on ruling everything?

[copper patrol]

I don't think so?

[sly ivy]

God I hope when we do get these stories it’s not chaos

[copper patrol]

real

[sly ivy]

They won’t have it be chaos right

That would be so stupid

[copper patrol]

surely not

[sly ivy]

Hell show him being tempted and then resisting

[plush mason]

him being corrupted should remain assumed

if only so the very nature of ordo hereticus remains a little ironic

[copper patrol]

surely GW wouldn't make any lame story decisions, they never done that before

https://tenor.com/view/horse-nodding-nodding-yes-horse-nodding-silly-gif-5152303604886252799

[sly ivy]

He should be free of taint and possibly resistant in the manner of people with strong wills etc. It should be fully a material conflict.

His impulses and desires are the things that feed the gods. He needn’t be fed by them.

[plush mason]

yeah

and ofc there are more kinds of heresy than just chaos corruption

[sly ivy]

Yes

Farting during the wrong part of the liturgy

[plush mason]

also would the imperium give the title of "first heretic" to Vandire due to Lorgar and Erebus being forgotten?

[copper patrol]

hmm, do they even consider him a heretic? enough to call him that anyway

[plush mason]

maybe i know whats her face called him one right before she cut his head off

[copper patrol]

like do they consider it heresy to just be a massive shitbag?

[sly ivy]

Oh no not more the X heretic

Age of Apostasy: the pursed heretic (b4 he reveals himself)

The Cursed Heretic

iii: The Worst Heretic

[glossy sonnet]

I dont think lorgar is forgotten

[sly ivy]

iv: The Burst Heretic

[copper patrol]

me when i'm in a repetitive naming competition and my opponent is GW

[plush mason]

he is to an extent, he is a daemon in the eyes of the imperial cult afaik

in fact the nature of all the traitor primarchs is forgotten

if they are mentioned at all they are mere daemons made in mockery of the emperor's nine holy sons

[copper patrol]

Lorgar did write their book iirc

[sly ivy]

Well aren’t they tho

[plush mason]

and only the very highest ranking members of the ecclisiarchy know anything about that

[plush mason]

they are now but the fact they started out as loyal primarchs is lost or more accurately hidden

afaik for the over whelming majority of the imperium even those in most positions in government knowledge of the traitor primarchs is non existant

[golden imp]

When 30k/40k was first released, was the Horus heresy already an event that happened

Or did that happen later in the history of the game

[copper patrol]

nope

1st ed 40k lore is almost unidentifiable to what it is now

[glossy sonnet]

I think it was like just mentioned once and there was no information about it

[plush mason]

and with good reason ofc, for if even the sons of the emperor turn against him what hope is there for humanity

[copper patrol]

shout out to the half-eldar librarian of the ultramarines

also when space marines where just dudes not particularly modified

[plush mason]

and the primarchs where just high ranking officers

[sly ivy]

No my da told me they was always demons

B4 he was lost in the mines

He is with Him on Terra now

[copper patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/saltzpyre-eyebrow-raise-vermintide-gif-24052002

told you they where what

[sly ivy]

D… ghosts. No devils

No um

Bad

They was bad and not holy

Unlike me and me mum

[tough haven]

So to become a magos you have to invent something? I don’t remember this but I vaguely recall some sort of trial or test to ascend to the rank, is it a true invention or “invention” like “I put a laser sight on a lasgun”

[plush mason]

i thought invention and innovation where heresy

[copper patrol]

rules for me and not for thee

ish

[dapper gyro]

It is

[copper patrol]

it is until it's useful pretty much

or you are cawl

[dapper gyro]

Please don't be a user with SM pfp, but arbiter in your case

[plush mason]

the word Lex is gona be seared into the minds of everyone by next week

[dire loom]

🗣️ Damn right.

[plush mason]

and will become every bit as annoying as the shovel meme and "i am alpharius"

[dire loom]

The memes will be legendary.

[plush mason]

all will be as the emperor intended

[arctic talon]

Sort of

You can

But it’s risky

[plush mason]

so you have to commit heresy and not be caught to advance to the rank of magos?

[celest dome]

Basically just act in the same theories as Dwarf engineer, invent something but don't go too far

[plush mason]

that tracks

[queen laurel]

say i got randomly stranded on a planet and I let's say for theoretical sake I was able to recreate an Odin in StarCraft for my own use, and I get discovered by the imperium, let's say it's a mechanicus fleet that is an expert of matters related to that what the hell will happen to me

[arctic talon]

Cacti got it

Also there’s other ways of becoming a magos

You simply need to show mastery

Of your “branch”

[plush mason]

so an engiseer can become a magos by repairing something really well?

[queen laurel]

that's why Kharadron overlords are superior

[celest dome]

So you basically made a Dreadnought that is usable by a human, so chances are that you would be killed and some other dude would claim to have rediscovered the armour

If you were instead found by a Rogue Trader or Inquisitor, you may be able to survive, and gain quite a lot of status and money. Even by/with the Admech

[winged jacinth]

"I call it the Land Walker"

[queen laurel]

it's not a dreanought per se but more like

this

[plush mason]

you basically made a knight

[winged jacinth]

Or a titan, without going through the whole rigamarole of making a princeps or knight pilot

[celest dome]

Size wise it'd Knight

So ye, same as before I guess

[winged jacinth]

Small ship i guess i thought that had to be at least warhound sized

[queen laurel]

one that has access to artillery big enough to level entire sections of a city with cannon arms that can blast a hole through an imperial fortress and has a built in nuke

[plush mason]

oh right you said Odin not the Thor

[winged jacinth]

You could put a volcano cannon on a knight

[queen laurel]

yeah those

[plush mason]

yeah you did basically make a warlord titan

so idk if the admech would be impressed or outraged

[queen laurel]

the thor is smaller but it's mass producable on smaller facilities

[plush mason]

yup

[winged jacinth]

Outraged i think considering the theological importance of titans

[plush mason]

that was the whole idea thanks to Ranyor goading his chief engineer

[winged jacinth]

Yours doesn't even have ONE steeple

[queen laurel]

yeah what i made is basically a small one man controlled titan that has no energy field

so probably killed

[plush mason]

yeah

[winged jacinth]

Tech priest examining starcraft tech: "how does this thing even work i can't find a single skull"

[plush mason]

then they find an adjutant and all hell breaks loose

[queen laurel]

Another funny thing I realize is primal zerg is just kind of

kroot plus

[plush mason]

starcraft is just 40k

even more so than warcraft is WHF

[queen laurel]

yes but primal zerg is literally just kroot plus

[plush mason]

yes

[queen laurel]

The way they exhibit their evolutions is much more rapid and dangerous

[plush mason]

they are nids without the hivemind basically

so kroot plus

[queen laurel]

yes

[tough haven]

Lmao, she doesn’t know

Inquisitor almost did an oopsie

[tulip sand]

I remember when we first had rannick on a mission (2/3 in carnival iirc) and I thought it was cool that one of the big boys was overseeing it directly lmao

[winged jacinth]

Time traveler in 1930 when they call the Great War "World War One"

[arctic talon]

"striketeam, violence please"

[storm jungle]

"Striketeam. Kill his family. Now. Please."

[arctic talon]

based

[languid meadow]

I need more rannick as mission control

[arctic talon]

Rannick's voice is great

Rannick is a great representation of the inqusition lol

[plush mason]

ngl that has such streamer vides "mods, kill this person"

and i love it

[copper patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[queen laurel]

I love the fact that his like this rather friendly demeanor is designed to hide the fact that he is one cold hearted calculating *** ** * *****

[arctic talon]

the way Rannick feels friendly

gives off so much wrongness

its so good

[tulip sand]

Nah bro stupid af

[plush mason]

yup

[queen laurel]

yep

ugh

[tulip sand]

"Admonition? Wtf is that lmao shut up zola"

[queen laurel]

He's so unnervingly nice it's actually creepy

[languid meadow]

That's his charm

He's arrogant and stupid

[plush mason]

he is so nonchalant about literally everything its perfect

[languid meadow]

Also looks like a sad hamster

[arctic talon]

LOL

[tulip sand]

Grendyl puts him on a PIP as of tomorrow

[copper patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/rannick-darktide-rannick-darktide-among-us-rannick-among-us-gif-5291651355473045582

[tulip sand]

Part of the aebites scene

[plush mason]

and even then he is detacted and composed

[languid meadow]

Tomorrow....

Then we get cutscenes

[plush mason]

its frankly impressive

[languid meadow]

Dear god I used to pray for these

[sly ivy]

Lmfao

[plush mason]

well lets hope whatever or whoever heard your prayers is benevolent

[sly ivy]

It was me I’m not

[tulip sand]

Man as an auditor i motivate myself when working on a client with servitor level IQ by thinking at least its not the imperial admin

[languid meadow]

When a man is starving a single fry is a feast

[tulip sand]

If they engaged any of the B4 theyd solve a million problems but the tithe level would rise to 99% of all resources

[rocky gale]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/eloq521l/sunday-preview-howl-with-the-wolves-of-fenris/

Wolves

[arctic talon]

collectors edition book

also

reprint

[languid meadow]

Necrons are gonna get cooked fml😭

[storm jungle]

Mid cover

[storm jungle]

Mid special edition

BOOO!!!!

[languid meadow]

Wolfer has that ogryn chin

[plush mason]

speaking of, i just heard a Marrow voice line that was too damn funny

my thanks to @static wren for the video that showed me this

[static wren]

🙌 I know you've been avoiding hab dreyko

play it, its a good map

join the light

[rocky gale]

Above and Beyond reprint, pray for a sequel

[plush mason]

i have been avoiding playing the game while i wait for the new update

[astral burrow]

Images aren't loading bruh

[storm jungle]

haha owned

[astral burrow]

Weird

[sly ivy]

So what’s our verdict on DUNC awakening

[plush mason]

its fun

pvp side of things is a bitch rn though

lots of griefing and balance problems

[languid meadow]

pvp on foot is cool

however the main pvp area the deep desert is just gank squads with ornithopters

[plush mason]

yup

[sly ivy]

I feel like they have to fix the ornithopter thing

Also like this emerged in 0.1 seconds why didn’t someone catch it during testing

[languid meadow]

yeah they need to make it so scout thopters can't use rockets

since it makes the assault one useless

[sly ivy]

How is class balance is everyone using one build

[plush mason]

its fine on that front afaik

[sly ivy]

I thought maybe everyone would want to be the Jedi

[plush mason]

some skills are very much better than others but for the most part nothing is a god mode meta setter

[languid meadow]

I'm gonna make a vanilla ice cream build of swordmaster and trooper

[sly ivy]

Yeah that shit sounds fun 2 me with maybe like one Jedi power

[languid meadow]

but yeah the bene gesseriet skills seem to be the best for a lot

of the game

[plush mason]

the bene gesseriet sprint is insane at max rank

for running away

[sly ivy]

Way back at the beginning of time there was that Star Wars galaxies mmo

And I thought it was cool that with the initial release they made it almost impossible to be a Jedi

So there were only like a few among the whole population

[astral burrow]

God, I am so down I can't find something to play

[tough haven]

If a tech priest removes all of their biological mind, but leaves other organic parts, are they considered silica animus?

[tough haven]

What game is this?

[plush mason]

most likely yes

[languid meadow]

Mastiff remove his balls

[tough haven]

I have a account of one that’s just completely accepted

[plush mason]

dune awakening

[tough haven]

Idk if it’s hidden or not

They just mention it casually halfway through the book and I’m like “can- can she do that?”

[plush mason]

they might have made an exception due to being useful/powerful in the admech, or its very well hidden

[astral burrow]

Can't wait for cyber mastiff Abelard mod

[languid meadow]

I love you subtitle guy

[tough haven]

I mean she just straight up talks about it openly

And they say it’s weird but nothing happens, she’s just a standard dominus

[plush mason]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[storm jungle]

Silica Animus is artificial intelligence

theres still a human brain in there in the opposite

[tough haven]

No no, they removed all of their brain

They have no organic brain

[storm jungle]

Lmao then yeah thats a robot

its literally like Cawl Bottomite

I mean Cawl Inferior

[queen laurel]

How do they view someone that's like on a robotic body but their mind is transferred on that body therefore they have the faculties of a human?

you know something like the necrons

[storm jungle]

Depends on the techpriest id imagine

most would prob have no idea unless you just told them

[astral burrow]

How would they know that tho

[queen laurel]

That's why it's a theoretical now ain't it

[queen laurel]

i see

some would also just see it as making a robot using someone's mind

the most vile way of making AI is using your own mind

[storm jungle]

What if she told them

: )

[arctic talon]

Silica animus

Abominable intelligence

[astral burrow]

Why would they believe

[tough haven]

Unrelated but any of y’all read the wings of fire series?

[storm jungle]

Because they are stupid

[languid meadow]

as are all of the mechanicus

[tough haven]

And it’s hilarious

I love admech

Especially because this new information I’ve discovered makes them even more hypocritical and petty

[languid meadow]

Who has the image of the admech guy from SM2 with caption "when the mechancius don't feel the consequences of their actions"

I have this

[queen laurel]

how does this affect the ecological state of the salmon state

[winter vessel]

The Legs Imperalis workout routine

[nocturne crest]

Would giving the arbites an LMG, like that one model, be too much for darktide?

[queen laurel]

what no

[languid meadow]

It wouldn't be too much

[queen laurel]

it's a totally plausible weapon\

[languid meadow]

this and the flail I think are the only two weapons they don't have from the TT

[winter vessel]

Reminds me of the FINN LMG from modern warfare 2019

[languid meadow]

the rest are in darktide

[winter pine]

That's just the ogryn autogun in normal human form

[languid meadow]

oh yeah and the sniper

I'm a fraud and my memory is failing

this thang

as well

[winter pine]

Shout out to that one quirky tech priest in every 40k story, gotta be one of my favorite genders

[queen laurel]

That's the grenade launcher

[sour hornet]

No

[queen laurel]

Honestly almost every weapon in their exaction kill team can be brought into the game

[winter vessel]

I just can’t wait to use that riot shield and hand cannon

[languid meadow]

yes I was pointing out how I didn't mention it

and I forgot about it after I said the sniper and fail were the only thing we were missing

[winter vessel]

Also, I watched the class release trailer for Arbites. Subtitles guy never misses

[celest dome]

They don't have Flails on the TT atm (they do in lore.
Melee missing from lore: Shock lances, Shock Flails, Repression baton (KT Exaction Squad); Excruciator maul (KT Exaction Squad)
Ranged:
Execution Shotgun, Grenade Launcher, Heavy Stubber, Web gun

[storm jungle]

Still one of my best works

fucking dumbass

[languid meadow]

Arbites will get melta before vet

[copper patrol]

I do like the scoped shotgun revolver

(as if scoped pistols weren't already stupid)

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure the one on the right is a Weber

it does look like a melta

[languid meadow]

the far right one is a scoped shotpistol

idk what the middle on is

[copper patrol]

that's the thingamajig

[queen laurel]

apparently it's a combat shotgun

[languid meadow]

what

[celest dome]

Zapper, It's a tazer

[languid meadow]

ah

[celest dome]

Or a Bio extractor

[queen laurel]

wait

is the combat shot can we have already ofr arbites

executioner?

[celest dome]

No it is the bio sample thing

Executioner is the Sniper one

Combat Shotgun and Shotpistol is what we have

[copper patrol]

we do use a couple arbites things arleady though

[queen laurel]

Sample extractors

[celest dome]

The Bolter and 1 of the Shotgun were already from the Arbites

[copper patrol]

crusher and the bolter we use are both arbites

[celest dome]

Crusher ?

Not sure if that one had any particular link to them

[copper patrol]

I mean the arbites can use the crusher. so I assume we got them off them

[queen laurel]

the link is they like using blunt weapons

like a lot of their weapons are mauls

[celest dome]

The og Shock maul we get are not tied to the Arbites in particular either

Unlike the Bolter and Lawbringer shotgun

[queen laurel]

yeah it's just they like really using blunt weapons shock mauls are particularly favored in their line of work

[languid meadow]

yeah they aren't it's just they needed more weapons and it's right there same with the crusher

[queen laurel]

i think you can probably pass them using crushers with them using it on tougher targets

[languid meadow]

tho the crusher is just a two handed power maul but every art and depiction of them is one handed (at least the ones I can find)

[celest dome]

I mean they do "match" with the Arbites, so I don't see reason to not give them to them, imo the Arbites should also have gotten the Thunderhammers

[astral burrow]

Do any of you play swtor

[languid meadow]

I did

[queen laurel]

i suppose that can maybe work with them

But since their entire selling point is crowd control I do see why they put them with a crusher

After all it does have that funky special stun

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[languid meadow]

can you believe it guys LEX just 18 hours away

[queen laurel]

yes I'm excited to do the funniest acorn cop impression I have

[sour hornet]

Fatshark literally just added those helmets to the game exactly

[astral burrow]

Now that the exam is over I feel kinda hollow

[languid meadow]

Good.....

[astral burrow]

What should I play?

[languid meadow]

Take a nap

[queen laurel]

a star wars game

[astral burrow]

Slept early yesterdayx

I wanna have fun

[astral burrow]

Got 3

[languid meadow]

Any of the Jedi games

[astral burrow]

I am playing survivor but

Stuck on Vader fight

So it is just frustration: the game rn

And I finished fallen order

[golden imp]

Do tech marines have any rank/sway in the mechanicus?

Like can they make decisions about non marine tech and over rule mechanicus members?

[celest dome]

Not really, they're seen under suspicion by both the Admech and their Chapter

[golden imp]

Ah

[celest dome]

Iirc they're considered the same way that Enginseer are, and unlike Enginseer, can't really gain better stature

[dire loom]

https://youtu.be/MH9dz4EQK_Q?si=M5TSTH09OL_OHpPm

[storm jungle]

damn everyone is jumping in

[copper patrol]

I mean 2 40k games both doing arbites stuff at the same time, it;s gotta be pulling numbers to do any kind of video on arbites

[arctic talon]

They're decently ranked, but not any huge power

[late osprey]

Are they themselves priests or are techmarines something different entirely in the mechacclesiarchy?

[sacred ginkgo]

Does anyone have the GW official post on how to pronounce Arbites

I know it exists but cannot find it

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/jJWTU5_tDE0?si=5xHnSCplqG_ofRJ7

It's unlisted

That's why

[sacred ginkgo]

Amazing

[dire loom]

https://youtu.be/NBeGySC_MII?si=368J2_TfkwX7fVzT

Another lore video just in case

There's a lot of good stuff out there on YouTube, but I recommend checking these 2 lore videos out 1st. IMHO

[arctic talon]

They are tech priests

Just lower ranking ones

[arctic talon]

None of these are oculus imperia

You have failed me for the last time

[sacred ginkgo]

I'd rather just grab a Soulshackle PDF, I like reading and it has no risk of contamination with 90's excerpts

[arctic talon]

also

majorkill

[dire loom]

Accepts fate

[arctic talon]

You will be sent to the mines for this offense

[dire loom]

There's too many, I figured I link one mainstream, then one obscure lore channels respectively.

Sorry

[dire loom]

Yes sah!!

[queen laurel]

They used to be like ogryns now that i think about it

I'm talking about the popularity chart

[arctic talon]

at least link a mainstream one thats accurate

tbh

[arctic talon]

Majorkill has a lot of innacuracies in his videos

[queen laurel]

Back then they used to be some background props no no one really cares

About

[arctic talon]

is my issue with his videos

ig lol

[queen laurel]

But now they are getting some proper spotlights

[queen laurel]

I mean that and the fact that he's rather you know

Aehhh

Moronic

[arctic talon]

meh

[dire loom]

🗣️ Mining the mines, Sah!

[arctic talon]

not relevant to the quality of his videos

[queen laurel]

True but you know judging a content creator by just completely on videos ain't my style

[dire loom]

**🗣️ Difficult for me fren, too many opinions, too many sources and too many.

At least the 2nd is good yes sah?**

[dire loom]

True, which is why sometimes I get confused and ask a lot of questions.

[arctic talon]

2nd one is fine

I haven't watched very many of their videos bcs I don't watch any real 40k youtube content now aside from painting related stuff

[queen laurel]

So wolf

[dire loom]

Ah you're old school, fair enough. An OG Lore master.

EliteWolf: I'm not a lore maste-

Shhhhhhh.. y'all definitely are compared to most of us. Lol

Too modest IMHO

[queen laurel]

What personality are you planning to go with?

[dire loom]

If I wanna know about Ork stuff, I feel like @queen laurel is all I need to talk to about It. Lol

Ork lore master.

[queen laurel]

You can ask other people i just heavily specialized in orcs

Of all warhammer settings

[dire loom]

I tried doing table top IG for a bit.

The Guard, Cadian. Dawn of War got me into it for a bit when I was younger.

I was like (Oh I didn't know it was based on books and a 4D chess type game!). Lol

[queen laurel]

Well ain't that funny

The reason why i fell in love with orks kind of similar

[dire loom]

It's hard, mixed sources and opinions etc.

Seems to be the standard though in Warhammer 40k communities sometimes. I get confused.

[queen laurel]

Gorgutz

[dire loom]

Sometimes

[queen laurel]

What's the first character i ever picked in dawn of war

And his shape is just burned into my head

[dire loom]

Plus I need coffee and a whole day off work just to get a decent amount of lore dump into my brain. Lol

[queen laurel]

That's why i fell in love with the orks

[dire loom]

Barely scratching the surface too. Doesn't help that my memory is terrible.

[dire loom]

Moon kindred!

[sour hornet]

I'd rather just watch Luetin or Balder

the only two Englishmen I can tolerate tbh

[polar hill]

Meanwhile me, the enlightened extremist lunatic: r/40KLore

[dire loom]

I thought they'd be like WoW Orks at first. Lol

Oh was I wrong..

[queen laurel]

No they're not

They are completely different

[dire loom]

Still wholesome and humble in a grim dark way don't get me wrong. Lol

[queen laurel]

Don't go to warhammer reddit those guys are usually

Psychologically speaking not all right

[dire loom]

That was years ago. Lol

I don't think that anymore. Was funny though that I thought that when I heard there was Orks in the game.

Thought it was warcraft 2.0 lol

[polar hill]

That's every Warhammer clique though

[dire loom]

Lexmate!

[polar hill]

Lexmate!

[dire loom]

We're multiplying.

[queen laurel]

Yeah but would you rather interact with someone less insane or someone more insane?

[polar hill]

Depends on whomever I'm trolling

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah i forget sometimes you're also not right on the head

[polar hill]

And don't ye forget it

Again, that is

[opaque coyote]

Speaking of not right in the head

Time to talk about FNAF lore

(related)

[polar hill]

Throne.

[opaque coyote]

Well not really the actual lore, just more about the state of the series.

[queen laurel]

Finish that sentence and i will make springtraps accident look like a flesh cut after i'm done with you

[opaque coyote]

I hate the fact that it's sorta carried by the mystery and never actually tells anything directly.

[dire loom]

**I'll check out some of the named channels y'all recommended I never heard of yet.

I do of course follow the main stream Darktide content creators. Good wholesome and humble people IMHO. I like their sense of humor. Very based and Lex pilled.**

[opaque coyote]

Like, even many mystery books have an outright plot to follow along.

FNAF's plot is more like water with retcons all over the place.

For fucks sake, they could change it so that FNAF 2 was never a prequel.

I always thought that a reboot of the series is necessary honestly.

[dire loom]

I might have to stock up on energy drinks tonight.

[opaque coyote]

Make it a clear story with actual threads.

[opaque coyote]

Why? Ya studying or something

[dire loom]

Sorry

[opaque coyote]

h u h

[dire loom]

Lol yah you could say that

[opaque coyote]

Gaming night

[dire loom]

Arbites launch and binge watching lore videos.

I'm very hyped up

[opaque coyote]

my pc can barely run darktide and I haven't played it in a while

despite

talking in this server

...

sshh

i am gonna build a pc though

mainly to like

run newer games since apparently optimization is a thing of the past

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-meme-cute-cat-cat-meme-meme-xafer-gif-1492599941141242049

[opaque coyote]

Anyways. Basically FNAF lore is a mess and it really needs a cleanup

FNAF 4 is particular is a game that's hotly debated since it's the only one where Scott confirmed to have done a retcon on.

Also it's one of the few retcons I am absolutely thankful for since the most agreed upon theory was that FNAF was all a dream.

....

Yeah I think you can see why Scott decided to make Sister Location.

Mainly because I think he realized "holy shit people would be fucking mad if I ended it like that"

Because to this day, that theory is still controversial.

So I think a reboot of the first four games with inconsistencies and plotholes cleared up would be a nice thing.

Things like "The Box" mystery have basically been abandoned. Although a fan game actually has an "answer" that I really liked.

That the box contains all of the personal items of the children that Afton killed.

So many items from so many souls that he had to place them in a box. As "trophies".

[polar hill]

Whoops, thought I hit send;

Dunno if you already realized by now, but I'm the guy who drew the pfp Arby, that's why I slapped on a wink when I first remarked on it lol

[sour hornet]

You drew it?

[opaque coyote]

h u h

oh damn

[dire loom]

**Oh!

Your the artist? Nice.

It's really good, solid 10/10 IMHO**

I'm currently using it until I get a picture of my Arbitrator character from in-game to use as my profile picture. I hope you don't mind if I use it for now etc.

[polar hill]

No worries, it's fine

Also ty

[polar hill]

Yee I posted it here in the fanart channel and on the Darktide sub

[arctic talon]

tbf I am old sorta, but I would not consider myself a master on lore at all lol

I started back in 2014 in 7e 👴

[dire loom]

ancient

Lol I joke

[arctic talon]

I know some real dinosaurs

if we want to go there

the person who properly taught me how to play 40k started back in 3e

[dire loom]

🗣️ Nice

I'm just very hyped for tomorrow, but unfortunately I gotta work today until midnight, which is a net positive if I think about it. Because when I wake up, it's my PTO vacation day. Lol

Saved just for moments like these.

[arctic talon]

I also have work tomorrow

[dire loom]

I'll have all day tomorrow off because PTO which is nice. Anyways, I'll catch y'all later on today in a bit probably around my break time or something. Nice chatting as always for a bit. Take care y'all!

[rocky gale]

I have to work all week, and our department is shortstaffed by 2, so overtime

[arctic talon]

rip

[rocky gale]

and next week we're going to be down 3

[arctic talon]

[plush mason]

i just thought of something

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[storm jungle]

motherfu-

[plush mason]

the cyber mastiffs are canonically not shown any affection, so come tomorrow we will have the most loved cyber mastiffs in the imperium

[plush mason]

yup

[rocky gale]

Wait did the playtesters have a seperate private mourningstar area?

[plush mason]

i also fell for it so lmao

[bold veldt]

my teacher started in 4th

i beat all ancients

i know The ancient

[copper patrol]

bro's got rylanor on coms

[bold veldt]

who do you think is the 1st 40k enjoyer

[rocky gale]

Well my grandfather was James Workshop Snr

[copper patrol]

probably some GW employes kid

if we are talking nonstaff at least

[bold veldt]

once i graduate i can game with him😝😝

hes the coach for my schools e-sports

[rocky gale]

Kids these days

School E-sports teams

[bold veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-pee-cat-pee-funny-lmfao-gif-14727908981812019274

im not on it

not gon play no marvel rivals

gross

[rocky gale]

Not good enough for Varsity E-sports?

No Marvel Rivals scholarship for you

[polar hill]

That doesn't sound right. The Lexicanum certainly has no mention of that - besides, Cyber-Mastiffs are described as a combination of cybernetic strength and ingrained natural loyalty. That loyalty doesn't happen without affection

[hasty coral]

This feels grimdork

People in 40k are messed up, they aren’t fucking robots

[rocky gale]

Even in the grimdark reality of the 42nd millennium people care about their pets

[hasty coral]

That’s my point

That just feels stupid

[rocky gale]

Yep

[hasty coral]

Anyways daily “Where Mechanicus 2”

GW

[plush mason]

if the Lutian video is right that loyalty is the result of the mechanical and chemical augmentations ,they arent shown affection like a normal dog but instead respected as weapons and the embodiment of the lex, they are also known to attack arbitrator
s

[hasty coral]

DROP A FUCKING RELEASE DATE

[hasty coral]

“IF”

“YouTuber source”

[languid meadow]

some Arbites show their dogs love iirc whether or not that means anything

[hasty coral]

I’m tweaking tf out over here no Mechanicus 2 release date STILL

[rocky gale]

Yea, like most people end up showing affection for servo-skulls and cherubs assigned to them, they're going to care about their dogs

[plush mason]

true

[hasty coral]

I need my Necron turn based rpg

[plush mason]

at least whatever passes for affection to brain washed cultist super cops lol

[hasty coral]

Surely this year like they said

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[polar hill]

If Arkhan Land of all people cried about his pet monkey being killed by World Eaters, people care about their dogs lol

[rocky gale]

Even if they do ultimately treat their dogs as expendible flesh torpedoes, they'll still scratch behind their ear and call them a good officer while off duty

[plush mason]

oh they do, its just cyber mastiffs specifically that are different

[polar hill]

Balony, imo