40k-lore-chat

[dire loom]

For Darktide ^

[rocky gale]

When Arbites?

[dire loom]

June 23rd

[rocky gale]

Gross

Should have been 20th

[late osprey]

man these are gonna be the slowest 3-4 days of my life

Lex Imperialis is on the 24th

[rocky gale]

Yea, great I've got the weekend off to do nothing and then it releases on Monday when I'm going to be working constant overtime all week

[crisp heath]

So.

Guilliman and Yvraine....

What exactly is going on there. (Kind of new to WH lore)

[rocky gale]

Nothing

[crisp heath]

What about Grayfax and Celestine?

Sorry all I know is the Blood Ravens and Krieg are badass ...all the smurfs suck except 2 .. and that Malum Caedo is the strongest space marine.

[late osprey]

guilliman and yvraine only get talked about because people are so marvel-brained they see two characters in a room and immediately assume they're banging

what actually happened was that yvraine saved guilliman's life because one of the eldar's prophecies said he had to live

[crisp heath]

What about Grayfax and Celestine? I heard they are the legit LGBT+ Romance of the 40k verrse.

[late osprey]

and that was about it

[rocky gale]

There's tension between them that they eventually get over and manage to work together, people meme it as romantic tension but dunno since I've not read it personally

[late osprey]

there's LGBT romance already in 40k, but i dont think it involves Celestine in any respect considering she's essentially a demigod

and not hardly human anymore

[crisp heath]

Oh yea and there is somthing about the Dark Eldar being scared of space sharks.

[late osprey]

what?

[outer wave]

Never heard of that one

[crisp heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUMmIcOLVR4 Found it.

Sorry one of my housemates is a 40k nerd.

[rocky gale]

Step 1: ignore every video like that

[late osprey]

there's better sources for 40k than youtubers, whom are usually incentivized to be hyperbolic to get more clicks

[outer wave]

Or just know the lore via memes

[late osprey]

frankly for your questions the best source is lexicanum

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

[crisp heath]

Ah so does everyone NOT hate the Emperor's Children or is that true.

[late osprey]

just look up the topic you're curious on and it'll tell you everything with citations

[late osprey]

again that's overblown, chaos is by and large equally self-loathing as an umbrella faction

[rocky gale]

Videos like this will usually take a single line of text from a Codex and then stretch it into a 20 minute video by blowing it out of proportion and making shit up to make it seem like a huge thing

[late osprey]

"The MOST BRUTAL Imperial Guard Regiment you've EVER seen..." and its just talking about Death Korps shovelmania

[crisp heath]

I did see a meme that the Blood Ravens have a rivalry with a necron named Tazran.

[late osprey]

yeah that is completely just people making a meme out of something that was already a meme

people call it memelore by this point, its just jokes that are so old that people start to confuse them for the actual lore

[crisp heath]

Ah last time I tried to join a 40k message board it was a massive debate about if the "Femstodes" should be considered canon or not.

[late osprey]

well they objectively are

so there's not really much discussion there

[outer wave]

Trayzen The Infinite because they both steal stuff? Yeah that's meme lore

[crisp heath]

Then why all the blacklash.

[late osprey]

blood ravens' thievery is in of itself memelore

[rocky gale]

Idiots

[outer wave]

People got too amped up over the idea that apparently custodes were to be all men, like space marines, despite the fact that they're made differently

[late osprey]

a lot of chuddery, i assume

[outer wave]

Also yeah that

[late osprey]

frankly i always considered it a nothingburger anyway, custodes lore in general is obnoxious and terrible to me

[crisp heath]

Ah yes people who think Strong female woman automaticly = woke sweet baby inc train wreck.

[outer wave]

It's really just a whatever statement

[outer wave]

Basically yep

[rocky gale]

Yea lore has never outright enforced Custodes being all men, people just assumed that was the case and then got annoyed when it wasn't

[late osprey]

40k has a proud tradition of chudposting like this

[outer wave]

The only line that leans into the whole men thing is a bit of lore that states that nobles gave their sons over to be turned into custodes

[late osprey]

like the infamous black ultramarine incident

[outer wave]

But meh, whatever

[crisp heath]

Yea my housemate was talking about how there was a big scandal a while back because a racsit won a 40k tourniment.

[late osprey]

well it let you post the message

so i assume so

[outer wave]

^

[late osprey]

discord servers can have auto-filters on words

[rocky gale]

Their only point is the mentions of like "Sons" and "Brotherhood", but grammatically the English language typically defaults to male gendered terms when referring to mixed groups. So it's not confirmation of only men.

[late osprey]

terran nobles are handing out their sons like candy it seems

custodes and imperial fists both

they're gonna run out at that rate

[crisp heath]

I mean Harld Hammerstorm used to be called Uthmar Elvenbane its not the first time GW retconned stuff.

[late osprey]

there's lots of retcons in 40k lore

[outer wave]

Ditto with necrons and squats, GW has done a bunch of retconning

[rocky gale]

Yep, GW retcons lore every edition and has since the 80s

[late osprey]

1st edition 40k is like a completely different setting

[rocky gale]

The Primarchs weren't even the Emperors sons when the game started, they were just high ranking generals

[crisp heath]

Yea I dont know a lot about 40k but I do know a bit about fant for example the End Time originally ended with the 40k equivalate of Gazgul running up and kicking Abaddon in the nuts headbutting him then running off.

Again dont know who those are just asked my frioend the 40k equivalnet of Grimgor and Archaeon.

[outer wave]

Yeah I recall that ending happening with End Times

[crisp heath]

Na in the end times Girmgor tried to but got boddied by a bloodthrister.

in the STorm of Chaos (The orgional ending to the end times) Grimsgor ran up Kicked Archaeon in the nuts headbutted him so hard he shattered the Everchosen's helm then ran off shouting that he was the best.

And Chaos just decided to call off the invasion for now.

[outer wave]

Yeah I recall it, then GW changed the ending because they wanted it to end in a certain way

[crisp heath]

Yea and we ended up with Age of Suckmar.

[outer wave]

Age of Sigmar is actually so good

I recommend you check the lore out because it's pretty rad

[crisp heath]

Not if you were a Bretonian player.

[rocky gale]

At this point the new AoS models are better than the new 40k ones

[crisp heath]

Or and ogres or a Tomb Kings.

[late osprey]

Yeah the Knight aesthetic unfortunately has been left in the dust until GW AoS-ifies it

But I at least have my Lumineth so I'm still satisified

[outer wave]

Ogors are VERY cool, and I say that as an Ogre Stan

[rocky gale]

Ogres are still around, they just got a different name

[outer wave]

^

Bretonnia got shafted though yeah

[crisp heath]

And my fave faction the Lizardmen.

[rocky gale]

Plus like if you want to play Bretonnia or Tomb Kings then you can go play Old World

They still exist

[late osprey]

Doesn't Old World not use AOS rules?

[rocky gale]

They're still the same, just called Seraphon now

[crisp heath]

Exaclty GW brought back old World.

[outer wave]

Don't think so

[rocky gale]

Old World and AoS use very different rules I think

[outer wave]

Don't have any evidence for that, but I don't think they're the same

[late osprey]

Yeah I haven't played Old World but IIRC it's more like a Fantasy that isn't unplayably broken

[rocky gale]

Yea as far as I'm aware it's like WHFB except people actually want to play it

[crisp heath]

I play a lot of TWW.

[rocky gale]

Yea, also don't trust oldheads talking about Warhammer Fantasy, people will tell you it was the best thing even until GW stole it away but in truth GW killed it because it was a dieing game that wasn't making money and was losing players.

and honestly the few people who were still playing it just kept playing it amongst themselves

The only reason anyone nowadays cares about Fantasy is down to 3 main reasons

1. Some of the novels were pretty good
2. Endtime being handled badly became a meme
3. Total War Warhammer

If TTW never came out and Endtimes were just mid instead of laughably bad then it would have just been forgotten

[humble shoal]

rocks fell and everyone died

[outer wave]

3.) Was my thing, and I didn't really play it that much. That and VT2 a bit

I'm glad it got me into fantasy tbh

[humble shoal]

my only fantasy experience was the mmo, and vt

[outer wave]

Otherwise yeah I wouldn't give much of a shit about fantasy

[humble shoal]

the age of reckoning trailer went hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkxGLvslPcU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFGJQIW5ZM

[outer wave]

I'll always remember the orc-a-pult

[humble shoal]

yeah

sigma priests activated neurons when I was a boy

not enough to actually get into fantasy

[dapper gyro]

what are we mad about this time?

[vagrant fox]

Priets of Sigmar still activate my neurons

I still play one in the Reckonings

[young pecan]

The lizardmen deserved to solo end times smh

Also did Sigmar invite them to bring their space ships into the new world or did they just kinda show up and he didn't really care

[late osprey]

i still be playing RoR

its one of the best MMOs if what you like are massive battles

[humble shoal]

yeah

I had a free month from I think.... dragon age

[late osprey]

well now it's completely free

since it's a private server and such

[humble shoal]

now I do not have time

[paper haven]

Mark of chaos was a really good game

[plush mason]

i always got hard stuck on the dark elf mission lol

where you had to stop the messangers, i was too dumb to figure it out

[tough haven]

I’m trying to come up with a description of the ridiculously obtuse Mechanicus esque rituals to activate and lift off with a thunderhawk, largely because of a lack of technical knowledge of how you fly a plane lmao, any suggestions?

Best I’ve got is beseeching the machine spirit to enlighten us with the status of its blessed form, and chanting “all systems operational” several times for a pre flight check that amounts to turning on and reading a screen

I don’t know beyond that

I haven’t delved much into portraying just how draconian and monotonous the rituals “necessary” to utilize imperial technology, and I really wanna hammer home just how slow and unnecessary it is for what really amounts to simple tasks

[opaque coyote]

Generally for any aeroplane there's three main stages.

Taxiing (plane moving on the runway + communicating with air traffic), take-off (going at least 35 feet off the runway using the momentum ) , and then the ascension.

So I assume the air traffic communication would be mixed in with a lengthy prayer

Along with that, you could also take inspiration from ship/nautical rituals

Priests used to sprinkle holy water on the ship’s deck and offering prayers for calm seas and a successful journey. Passengers, especially immigrants leaving Europe for America, frequently participated by bringing their own religious items, such as crucifixes or prayer cards, which they would have blessed before boarding.

So I could imagine something similar to a "safe passage" type of ritual for each aircraft.

With the soldiers participating themselves.

There's also the good old "breaking a bottle of champagne against a ship"

Which is basically christening it

I can imagine the Imperium doing that for aircraft and spaceships as well

[astral burrow]

Morning

[dire loom]

Good morning Xeno scum.

I still think the Inquisitor is sus in the lore.

[languid meadow]

He is def doing something a bit suspicious

Him saying "I'm running out of time" is interesting

[dire loom]

Exactly!

[celest dome]

Atm there isn't really any red flags

He is most likely in the Spire of Tertium, trying to find the Nobles backing the Admonition cult

[dire loom]

How much time has actually passed though?

[arctic talon]

Prolly less then 2 years

[dire loom]

That's still a lot of time, even if it is just a drop in the ocean for the Warhammer 40k setting.

Hella sus Inquisitor

[arctic talon]

Meh

Grendyl isn’t any sussier then other inqusitors I’ve seen in 40k stuff

[dire loom]

They all sus

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

It’s the inqusition

[dire loom]

Lol idk but every time I see an Inquisitor in a video game, they be sus or over zealous. If they likable or friendly.. they probably sus and chaos warp corrupted . If they evil or classic meme Inquisitor, probably a loyalist.

Space Marines 1 taught me this.

At least for the most part.

Big SUS!

[opaque coyote]

Probably desperate to stop Teritum from going to shit

Undersupplied

Desperate enough to use death row prisoners as fodder

[dire loom]

**Or he sus! **

[opaque coyote]

Maybe

[dire loom]

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the Inquistor was actually chill beforehand.

The problem is that he died

And then Chaos took over his body

[dire loom]

Oh shit, I wasn't paying attention then. Lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah you can find logs of him

Well him before he died

[dire loom]

Maybe the Inquisitor Grendyle not sus, but probably died.. then got possessed.

[opaque coyote]

Pretty much

[opaque coyote]

Tbh I just think the man is desperate enough to do something crazy

But given that the situation in Teritum isn't good

Uh

Yeah

[dire loom]

[opaque coyote]

Usually daemons like Chaos Spawns and the Nurgle Dogs (tm) being summoned means some bad shit is going down

The Beasts of Nurgle are probably one of the most fucked up things Nurgle did honestly

But is also the perfect example of what Nurgle represents

[dire loom]

**The end times!

Quickly, we must make sure the tithe is paid in full, then nuke the planet from orbit!**

[opaque coyote]

Beasts of Nurgle literally are basically just puppies in giant infectious bodies

All of their attacks and shit are literally just playing to them

Like the weird goo? Basically slobber from licking you.

[dire loom]

Yeah, it's apparently bad to kill one. They come back and hunt you down or something.

[opaque coyote]

Kind of, they are mentally incapable of comprehending

That

They are causing harm

[dire loom]

As a fly

Pox fly?

[opaque coyote]

It doesn't require killing them just once byw

[dire loom]

Oh..

[opaque coyote]

It basically requires multiple kills from different humans

They keep trying to play

[dire loom]

Cooked either way.. damn.

[opaque coyote]

Not understanding that they're causing harm

All they know is that they're getting hurt for seemingly no reason

[dire loom]

I've killed so many, lost track. Lol

[opaque coyote]

So like an abused dog, they become aggressive

And also depressed

That's the fly

It's them basically crashing out

And becoming permanently depressed and angry

[dire loom]

[opaque coyote]

Which is fucked if you think about it

The entire purpose of the Beasts is to be beaten and abused to the point where they become aggressive

Although either way, you're kinda cooked

[dire loom]

Yeah. Lol

[opaque coyote]

It shows Nurgle's true side

He's not the kindly grandfather

He's the abusive one that beats you.

Tells you "This is all your fault. Look at what you made me do."

Love bombs you.

Repeat.

In a fucked up cycle

[dire loom]

Nurgle bad. Lol

It's funny that some people actually think he's good. Then again.. looking at IRL.. there are some very low IQ people around the world who support bad stuff and bad people etc.

Like it should be common sense that the stank demon is bad. Lol

I mean, all of Chaos is bad. Always have been.

Sucks for Zola though. Especially since we know that her brother turned to chaos.

Tragic

[opaque coyote]

Chaos is bad but unfortunately it's easy to trip into

And the Imperium doesn't

Exactly

Help

[tulip sand]

Is the fully robotic dog skin exclusive to the deluxe addition?

Also isnt that outlawed as AI?

[opaque coyote]

Nah

Basically AI needs to actually be Sapient

The Imperium has actual robots

Also since the Robot Dog is simulating well

A dog

An animal

[tulip sand]

https://youtu.be/JxS5EIihHQo?si=gdSuNQ0XEq7V0KLl

[opaque coyote]

Not something as "intelligent"

As a human

[tulip sand]

Fr?

[opaque coyote]

It isn't AI

[opaque coyote]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Robot#google_vignette

Keep in mind, the Imperium is still futuristic

The average cogitator is probably leagues better than our computers

[tulip sand]

I might get the deluxe just for the fully robo dog then

[tulip sand]

Pretend like its this lol

[opaque coyote]

They're officially called Cyber-Mastiffs

[tulip sand]

I mean the closest thing fo actual machine spirits would bs an AI

Wouldnt that only be if they're augmented dogs?

[opaque coyote]

Also apparently it has the brain of a dog

So not AI

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cyber-Mastiff

[tulip sand]

Oh lol

Did not know that

[opaque coyote]

Didn't either

[tulip sand]

https://tenor.com/view/can-i-pet-that-dog-gif-15739057056216911786

[dire loom]

Just like drugs and drug addicts.

[opaque coyote]

Apparently they can literally tear off an Ogryn's arm with just one snap of it's jaws

[tulip sand]

Imagine actually using something like this

I dont think the jaws can fit around ine

One*

[opaque coyote]

Also there's canonically a Cyber-Mastiff named Groin Ripper

[tulip sand]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-staring-at-sun-cute-dog-dog-closed-eyes-dog-staring-at-sunset-gif-10310895250239531072

[opaque coyote]

Guess what it does?

Also there are dog servitors

[dire loom]

Yeah wasn't AI banned?

[opaque coyote]

Which is

Sad

[tulip sand]

It has dog brain

[opaque coyote]

The Mechanicus can't let a single living thing not be lobotomized

At least once

[dire loom]

Yeah, I know but wasn't AI banned? I think it was.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

100%

But the AI actually needs to be intelligent enough to be sentient.

Basic AI like say Alexa are fine

They aren't counted as AI

[dire loom]

Can't have sky net. I think there was a Skynet in lore event that happened and Big E watched a few Terminator movies.

[opaque coyote]

The Men of Iron started going batshit.

Wasn't even a sky net situation. More like they just started fighting each other for varied reasons

Like humans

We don't even know how it began, what happened, or how it even ended

All we know is that because of it, AI was banned

[dire loom]

So the servitors have human souls, or spirits for most of the machinery or what we think is AI is actually spirits or souls or brain in jar 2.0 or something like that. While being aware but can't control yourself or do much anything etc.

[opaque coyote]

And that it was only one of the several catastrophes

[dire loom]

Luv muh grim dark

[opaque coyote]

That brought Humanity from it's DAoT level tech

Down to uh

Mad Max but with bolters

[dire loom]

A major crash out

[opaque coyote]

Kinda but some MoI actually helped humanity

While some went against

More like a complicated war

[dire loom]

Interesting

[opaque coyote]

Also as a random fun fact

The T'au have a Kill on Sight list

Space Marines are a part of it

Because they hate Xenos

So fucking much

That even Chaos Space Marines are still genocidal towards them

[median star]

as all good former and current emperor loving humans should

[opaque coyote]

99% of you already know this

But it is just fucking funny to me

Like they are allied with fucking bloodthristers and shit

And they're like

"Ewww their faces look like fish"

BLAM

Like you are allied with MFS with Claw Hands

You could at least consider possibly not killing them to kill the Imperium

But they can't even do that

[copper ridge]

That was what happened on Terra, but galaxy wide it was a lot different. Planets coped differently, some same as Terra, in other places people just went on with their days

Even after the age of strife there were miracle world like Prospero

[polar hill]

The sheer total scale of the revolt implies it was at least partially a Skynet situation, and the similarly sheer variance of AI WMDs necessitated at least two or three kinds of Skynet-tier AI for those weapons to function; see: nanobot plagues

[polar hill]

Nice pfp

[golden imp]

Were the ultramarines always the poster boys or were there another marine chapter in the light before?

[plush mason]

crimson fists where for a while iirc

ofc they look a hell of a lot like ultramarines so lmao

[polar hill]

Yeah I'd say Crimson Fists, too

Other than that, no-one really comes to mind

Ultramarines have been the poster boys since Second Edition iirc

[plush mason]

it basically went crimson fists for a short time then ultramarines afaik

so they have basically always been the poster boys because the crimson fists are literally just ultramarines with red hands

dispite being an imperial fists successor lmao

[wintry scarab]

In lore, what are the naming conventions by Arbites for their dogs?

Do they even have names? Or just designations?

[queen laurel]

i'd say space wolf has taken the spotlight here and there

recently they also got a lot of minis too

[polar hill]

They can be named yeah, and anything ya want. They're dogs

[queen laurel]

any basic dog name can literally work

it doesn't have any latin or language related thing

[tough haven]

Infantanius Vehemens, my cyber pitbull

The lex has no provisions for age

[queen laurel]

Ripjaw is what i will call mine

[near wasp]

Mines called princess

Or cupcake

[plush mason]

think i will name mine Opus

[golden imp]

Do black templars worship the emperor as a man or a god?

[tough haven]

A god 100%

They are unique in that regard

But it’s also really boring to me because that’s 99% of the imperium

I like the space wolf viewpoint of “He is just a man, after all, a god fighting gods is child’s play, but a man fighting gods is the stuff of legendary sagas!”

[hallow saddle]

crimson fists were on the 1st edition cover

then 2nd edition was bright coloured blood angels

then 3rd edition cover was grimdark black templars

thats kind of just the codex covers tho, i think ultras might have been the main box art since 3rd?

the 3rd edition starter set was black templars vs dark eldar actually

4th edition starter set was battle for macrage so deffo ultramarines there

looks like ultras ever since 4th edition

[arctic talon]

Normal dog names, serial number, vat grown name + number, dog name + serial number

[dire loom]

Ty fren

[copper patrol]

Classic space wolf W

[tough haven]

Do GSC typically worship their patriarch as The Emperor, or like an Angel sent by him or something?

[storm jungle]

Any figure.

Its for homebrew reasons.

But it very much has to be holy in nature

[tough haven]

I don’t think they even think of tyranids as the Emperor usually that I’ve seen

[storm jungle]

Depends on the cult.

[tough haven]

I thought they generally think of the hive mind as the Emperor or some otherwise unseen being

[celest dome]

GSC are "smart", they'll adapt to what ever is the closest and most useful religion to mimick

[tough haven]

And the nids as angels

[storm jungle]

^

Again anything.

As long as its "holy" and religious in nature.

[tough haven]

Ok doke, just wanted to make sure there weren’t any hard requirements before I go ahead and write one

[storm jungle]

When in doubt, read the lexicanum.

[celest dome]

Nah, they know it's not the same, but having a "normal" religious figure make it easier to get new people in to turn

[tough haven]

Glory to the Monarch Transcendent!

[tough haven]

Mine is on a shrine world so it’s very much gotta stay close to the norms

To continue existing

[humble shoal]

GSC is simply subversion made manifest

I would argue a shrine world would be a great place to make a... more weird GSC

"The saint's arms reach out to all of us"

(the saint is the patriarch)

[tough haven]

Well yeah but I mean they have to use orthodox terms

You can’t be like “The great serpent springs from the void towards us to return us to our deliverance!” That’s gonna raise some eyebrows

[queen laurel]

Yeah something like the order of the clawed saint can exist in that place

It's just an example it's not a thing

[humble shoal]

doesnt have to be obvious

[plush mason]

i heard a short story about a GSC that got new converts by spreading a rumor about a great treasure at a lost hive at the end of an abandomed railway line

[raven stone]

In all honesty, GSC use a lot of Emperor imagery only for the practicality of avoiding investigation

Before the cult has fully matured in size

Outside of Imperial context they will most likely adapt as needed

[celest dome]

Imagine a world that is mostly Chaos inclined, and there is a GSC that's trying to set itself up and is confused on whoe to do it

[queen laurel]

i think honestly chaos it's probably gonna be impossible

Those guys have a natural knack of detecting the power of their gods and fellow followers and brothers in arms

[copper patrol]

eh, depends on the type of chaos worshipping planets

if it's like word bearers propa religious it's gonna be hard

if it's just like random chaos shite? they' probably just set themselves up as another cult promising power or w/e

[queen laurel]

yeah the more advanced the cult gets the more difficult it is for them to ingratiate themselves

[tough haven]

Psure there’s a nurgle GSC

[rocky gale]

Yep, Cult Tenebrous

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I like to think that

Some went Skynet

Some decided to take over territory to protect themselves against the Skynet mfs

Some got corrupted and went fucking insane

Basically just a fucked up mixture

Like you said. The sheer scale caused the AIs to react differently

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

Tbf, that's more of a GSC that got affliced by Nurglite rot and turned to Nurgle

Rather than GSC trying to remain as is and take over later

[queen laurel]

wait

a sign of goodness in the imperium

Holy shit

[storm jungle]

He does say the kid is probably gonna get killed and looted for that cloak so lol

[queen laurel]

i mean hey

he gave the kid an expensive ass cloak

So if the kid survives he now has some of the greatest drip in the Galaxy at least

[paper haven]

That boy was definitely killed within the week

[queen laurel]

eh survival of the fittest

[paper haven]

An adult, probably

[polar hill]

I think the boy lived

[astral burrow]

I think I will finish imperial agent story in swtor and quit it

When is the next sale on Warhammer games

[paper haven]

Probably the best way to play Swtor

[storm jungle]

NAKED CUSTODIANS ARE CANON

LMAO

LETS GO

[polar hill]

Nooooo.

[storm jungle]

hahaha

homosexual

gay gay gay

[near wasp]

I mean of course they are real

[storm jungle]

Maybe it was a dream

[median star]

dilara thirst trapping custodes in lore chat

[storm jungle]

always was

[median star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136292421211258932/1214721675011031050/tenor_3_1akqk.gif

[paper haven]

they need to put their armor back on and go out and do something

[storm jungle]

this is pre-Rift!!!

[astral burrow]

Battlefront 2 just hit 27k

New record

90% off on steam

[storm jungle]

jesus

[paper haven]

And if they had gone out before the rift, then that might never have happened. Probably.

[astral burrow]

It is still going on

😭

[spare osprey]

I’m really debating it, but I still have to go through that fuckass ea app even on steam

[astral burrow]

The curve is insane

[astral burrow]

I havent seen EA app nor epic in a whiiile

And I have the game on epic

I don't even need to open them when I use the shortcut

And them running in the back doesn't effect me, tho I turn off every background app when not gaming anyway

So it is no big deal

The game is so worth it it is extremely fun

[spare osprey]

See, I just wish EA were a competent company. Because I pre ordered the game when it first came out, maxed out a Buncha stuff

[astral burrow]

And there aren't much sweating

[spare osprey]

But that’s all on Xbox so I can’t play it lmao

[astral burrow]

Cuz no ranks or anything

U can just play co op with random people and mow down bots to level up units

So much fun

[spare osprey]

Yeah

[astral burrow]

Heroes vs villains too when you get the hang of it

Leveling heroes is a pain tho

Been getting better at it, made it into top 5 of a supremacy match today, new for me

[spare osprey]

ALSO

I got those unique preorder skins and stuff

[astral burrow]

It has been going up since morning

[spare osprey]

Booooo, booooooo you EA

[astral burrow]

Also celebration edition has every cosmetic except the preorder Rey skin

[spare osprey]

Mhm

[astral burrow]

I don't think there is any other stuff you can't get

Some milestone skins

The Rey easter egg skin

That's it, rest is unlocked instantly

[spare osprey]

I think there’s a yoda star card? It’s that or they just gave you it maxed out for free

[astral burrow]

Every infantry skin is unlocked

[astral burrow]

Probably just maxed out

[spare osprey]

Ye and every reinforcement and everything

[astral burrow]

Star cards are free too just leveling up

Every skin is there

[spare osprey]

Yup yup

[astral burrow]

No microtransactions

[spare osprey]

Man

[astral burrow]

Tho u can still buy tokens and get currency by playing

They can be used for nothing

[spare osprey]

One of two games I ever pre ordered, love it

(The other was that first Jurassic park building game)

[sly ivy]

Ugh y must we b afflicted by Star Wars

Most annoying sci fi setting

[polar hill]

New official Guilliman art
My man needs a hug from Lion as soon as Immaterially possible

And also new Szarekh art, too

[plush mason]

he looks older in this art for some reason

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-tuco-tight-gif-5526686

[spare osprey]

I imagine everything he’s got going on is NOT great for his beauty sleep

[plush mason]

true

[arctic talon]

It’s the artists style I’d assume

[plush mason]

its the sunken cheeks and hair looking almost white, ether way i do like that he looks older now

[storm jungle]

Where is this from?

[young pecan]

Fore dolar

[crystal forum]

@arctic talon star wars question

i probably missed that part but where does the super special imperial ship in andor go

the hyper tie fighter

[glossy sonnet]

to the bin of cameos dave filoni can one day throw in

[crystal forum]

i feel like it could have been useful during rogue one

[rocky gale]

The Tie Avenger, it's basically a prototype but with it being stolen and too expensive it never entered full production

But apparently it's designs went into the cheaper Tie Interceptor

[crystal forum]

yes but what happened to the one in the show

[rocky gale]

Oh

Dunno

[glossy sonnet]

we dont know

[crystal forum]

i already guessed it's some macguffin rare prototype #594 thing

[rocky gale]

Yea we don't know, the show doesn't tell us and we've not got follow up side content yet

[crystal forum]

i thought it was like darth vader's ship for a second

[rocky gale]

Vaders ship was also a prototype that didn't enter full production

A TIE Advanced x1

[opaque coyote]

The Tie fighters were ass lmao

Only Vader's prototype wasn't

Presumably because his inner pilot would probably throttle most of the officers for daring to give him such a shit ship

[crystal forum]

i found it odd that it had 2 jump seats in the back like it's meant to also be a drop ship

[rocky gale]

Tie fighters were great, they just lacked shielding

and hyperdrives

[crystal forum]

they're bad until a main character uses one

anyways i'm just surprised that the advanced tie thing wasn't used for a plot reason. season 2 starts off with it as if it was going to serve some future need

chekhov's gun and stuff

[opaque coyote]

The Clone Wars era ships were better tho

[rocky gale]

Like the Tie fighter was faster and had more agilty than the X-wing

[opaque coyote]

If there is one thing I do love about the Tie Fighters it's the engine sounding like Screaming

There is one thing that I praise George Lucas for

It's the sound direction

From the Lightsaber Hum, Darth Vader's breathing, it still holds up today.

[plush mason]

wasnt the TIE Advanced based on the TIE bomber?

[crystal forum]

i thought the whole thing about the tie is that it's cheap and complements the star destroyers

[rocky gale]

Yep

They're cheap and easy to make and they're quick and agile

[crystal forum]

empire not caring about the lives of its pilots is on brand

[rocky gale]

So deploy 100 of them and swarm everything

[opaque coyote]

Basically, an actual thing I like about Star Wars is how they actually detailed why certain things were designed a certain way.

[rocky gale]

Then the Interceptor was even faster, had greater agility and firepower, they were intended to replace the Tie Fighter

[storm jungle]

my favorite is like

"lets retcon vader suit to be a literal torture-contraption"

one of the funniest fucking thing sever

[opaque coyote]

The Clone Wars and Rogue One were basically "noodle incidents" turned into actual media. And both were actually pretty interesting.

[rocky gale]

I thought you were going to say your favourite Tie variant

[opaque coyote]

It's almost like exploring another galaxy is actually interesting instead of rehashing the same SHIT-

[crystal forum]

he seemed to be way less comfortable outside the suit than in it during the real movies

[opaque coyote]

Tbf, if you look at the fucking thing...

yeah nah that would be awful to wear

[rocky gale]

Tie Striker is peak

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it's still covering his literal burnt skin

[storm jungle]

it legit looks fine

they just retconned it so that every part is a fucking torture device

or amazon product

its great

[crystal forum]

empire fighters being slight variations of the tie fighters you'd see made by a fan with photoshop

[rocky gale]

Like imagine just rocking up with a Tie Reaper and a squad of Strikers

[opaque coyote]

It's probably to explain away how lame the lightsaber fights were in the first actual movies.

Since 1970s

[crystal forum]

bruh

[opaque coyote]

The Lightsaber props were flimsy so to actually use them would probably cause them to shatter

I do like how the modern movies interpreted Vader's new "style"

Instead of agile and berserker like Anakin was in the prequels.

It's more slow and methodical strikes.

Putting his entire weight into it basically.

Along with using as less actual effort as possible due to how much he abuses the force part.

[crystal forum]

watching andor made me think about how many stormtrooper armor kits they have for when the stunt actors have to jump around and immediately scratch the shit out of the white plastic

[opaque coyote]

More importantly, why the fuck would they make most of the oufits bright ass white

[crystal forum]

because it looks cool

[opaque coyote]

yeha true

Honestly, this is gonna be the hottest take I have

[storm jungle]

dude I know right

[opaque coyote]

In terms of pure aesthetic, I like Stormtrooper armor better than the Clone Armor.

Please don't servitorize me

[storm jungle]

guys, get em

cannibalise this twink

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/mkultra-mind-control-cat-face-gif-2481894448833856970

[crystal forum]

the only thing i find uncool about the og stormtroopers is how clearly oversized the helmets are

you can't even lower your head

and when they walk it looks weird

i bet the original 70's helmets were super hard to see out of too

[opaque coyote]

Honestly weirdly enough that's why I like it.

It's similar to how WW1 Stormtroopers were, they specifically wore heavy armor, so to have that along with the oversized helmet shows their "bulk".

So to speak.

Now if only the armor was actually more effective

[crystal forum]

if only that mattered in a setting where a small blaster pistol defeats every armor

[rocky gale]

Tank Trooper supremacy

[crystal forum]

what about that rocket launcher trooper during the start of season 2 andor

that guy had drip like what the hell

[opaque coyote]

Like they were supposed to be Elite after all. I like to think that the suits were specifically for space combat.

Weight doesn't matter that much in space stations, and it's good enough outside of that.

Honestly, if I were to be in charge of a reboot, I would have the Stormtrooper armor explicitly be heavier, but also be able to actually tank blaster shots.

[rocky gale]

Ahktually Stormtrooper armour isn't designed to block blaster shots, it's designed to dissipate the energy of the shot throughout the armour, so the wearer gets knocked out rather than killed.

[crystal forum]

so all the fallen down stormtroopers are canonically sleeping?

[rocky gale]

So the armour does stop the shot

Most of em

[opaque coyote]

Makes sense honestly.

[crystal forum]

now that's funny

that's some comedic lore

[opaque coyote]

Most bulletproof armor doesn't prevent the bullet from hurting.

It just prevents it from fucking killing you

You're still gonna be knocked on your ass and groaning in pain.

[rocky gale]

Yea it's basically to stop lethal hits, but you're going to hurt and get incapacitated

Although it's weak to like blunt force

So like all those troopers that got rocks thrown at them by Ewoks are dead

and probably eaten

[opaque coyote]

Honestly would've had a scene where a Stormtrooper just eats a shot, groans/yelps in pain, but still moves forward to fucking kill you.

Now that would've been terrifying.

Also the bulky helmets are probably made to help aid in the blaster force dissapation.

Especially if it hits in the head.

Interesting all things considered.

[opaque coyote]

that's just weird lmao

You'd think with all of that material, it would block the rock.

[crystal forum]

it's not weird, it's lore written backwards to justify the trilogy

[rocky gale]

and I think also weak to like slugthrowers

[opaque coyote]

Then again, probably not written that way to like

okay lemme reword this

probably not written until after the trilogy

there we go

like jay said

[opaque coyote]

I think slugthrowers are funny tbh

"Hey, you might have a cool laser gun. But I have an actual gun!"

BLAM

Genuinely wonder why don't more star wars mfs use them

In lore

[crystal forum]

blasters are cool

[polar hill]

Final Dawn of Fire book, The Silent King

[opaque coyote]

Like 40k is actually better at justifying it.

"Yeah, you see, the Lasgun is actually better. It's just that either way you're fucked if you're up against a tyranid swarm."

[rocky gale]

The thing about slugthrowers is they are so outdated compared to blasters that people stopped wearing armour to protect from them and that made them useful again

[opaque coyote]

[crystal forum]

btw what's up with andor's blaster. for like one episode he's seen attaching a barrel to it to make it into a sniper

that's a cool ass blaster

[rocky gale]

He did that in Rogue One as well

[crystal forum]

probably to sell a toy but still

[rocky gale]

It was a thing in the first Battlefront remake

You could like modify the blaster into different modes

[opaque coyote]

Reminds me of how some communications use really outdated tech to stop people from spying on them.

I think another similar example is in Cyberpunk 2077, where to contact the NUSA president, you use a regular ass landline phone.

Since it's a futuristic cyberpunk world, nobody uses those anymore.

[crystal forum]

that's pretty cool

[opaque coyote]

With Johnny even showing you how to use it which was a neat detail.

[crystal forum]

also i noticed that the han solo blaster is seen at the last episode of andor

probably just an easter egg

or they had a box full of props

[opaque coyote]

Apparently you can modify a blaster to make people bleed

or just

both

Red is apparently the least effective due to it using "cheap" gas

[polar hill]

The DL-44 is a common choice of blaster for military personnel

[opaque coyote]

Also Blasters are specifically Plasma.

Only the ships and Death Star use lasers

Which... is strangely realistic

Lasers are considered to be used for anti-air rn

[plush mason]

iirc droidikas also used turbo lasers

[rocky gale]

mfing Dragonfire

[crystal forum]

and i only noticed it used once in the show

when it was prominently displayed in a shot

[opaque coyote]

We get to see Death Lasers in the near future

YIPPEE!!

[rocky gale]

Blaster cannons

[polar hill]

Blaster cannons, not turbo-lasers

[rocky gale]

Turbolasers are huge

[plush mason]

the fact the naked eye cant see the beam makes it all the more terrifying

[plush mason]

ah right

[crystal forum]

infrared is normal for lasers

[opaque coyote]

Kyber Crystals are also one of the few cool details of the Disney Lore

Especially with the Sith having to essentially harm them to use them.

[crystal forum]

also the fact that you can see the entire beam instead of the dot means the air is being ionized by the heat it gives off

[opaque coyote]

Which fits both of the side's philosophies

The distinct red color is by forcing it to bleed

[plush mason]

are they a Disney lore thing?

they where in KOTOR

and the older comics

[rocky gale]

They were a thing in Legends, but most of the modern details we have are Disney lore

[crystal forum]

what's the lore of those rogue one empire robots

[plush mason]

security droids

[rocky gale]

The KX?

[crystal forum]

why are they so effective

yeah

[storm jungle]

because they generally attack people that cant defend themselves

[plush mason]

made to deal with riots and watch prisoners

[storm jungle]

yeah that lol

[crystal forum]

we see one eating like 20 blasters shots

[storm jungle]

I accidentally read that as "eating 20 babies"

i was like "yeah accurate"

https://tenor.com/view/mirada-star-wars-andor-gif-18327524918280505531

[crystal forum]

i feel like if you gave them a big ass gun they'd be super soldiers

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

well there you go

[plush mason]

combat droids where outlawed by the empire

[rocky gale]

They were also used during the purge of Mandalore

[crystal forum]

star wars terminators

you know the one that gets rammed by a truck

i thought it would survive that

[opaque coyote]

probably too expensive to produce en mass

also a lot of droids are sentient and if they go against you

like

the fuck are YOU supposed to do now

[crystal forum]

are they not already sentient

[opaque coyote]

yeah

[plush mason]

iirc the droids are programed to be ultra loyal

and if that fails restraining bolts are a thing

[rocky gale]

So funny that Battle droids were illegal, so they made the KX droids and called them a security droid instead

[plush mason]

yup

[rocky gale]

Not for Battle I swear

[crystal forum]

that's pretty funny

[opaque coyote]

Its like how White Phosphorous is "totally only for acting as flares just trust me"

(That is the official military excuse for their use btw)

[crystal forum]

it's an anti material rifle sir, it's only made to kill material

[plush mason]

hey if any sod is dumb enough to be under the flair thats on them

[crystal forum]

convenient that people are also made of material

[plush mason]

never mind the fact that we fired the flair into a bunker

[opaque coyote]

Yeah, they just need to dodge the several gas bombs I'm dropping on them.

Just play touhou irl

smh

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-just-dodge-yeah-just-dodge-bullet-hell-gif-26068620

[plush mason]

the shit you can get away with on these technicalities to too funny in a grim and morbid kind of way

[opaque coyote]

"Bro this isn't an abominable intelligence, just trust me" - Cawl

[plush mason]

yup

[opaque coyote]

As human as thinking

[crystal forum]

i wonder if by building a death star the empire would have even actually won full dominance

congratulations you've blown up half the galaxy and now you own barely anything

[polar hill]

Sorry, was delayed - like Larmoth said, Kyber crystals were always a thing in Legends, but modern stuff like Sith bleeding their crystals to turn them red is a Disney invention. In Legends, red crystals are a synthetic approximation of Kyber crystals since Sith don't go to Ilum to claim a real one

[opaque coyote]

It's equivalent to like Trump's military parade in terms of wastefulness.

Except it's at least much cooler

[crystal forum]

what's the plan anyways? blow up any planet that has rebels?

[opaque coyote]

Leverage basically

"Don't rebel, else you will be fucking space dust"

Like MAD, except only one person has it

[rocky gale]

Death Star is the pinncale of the Tarkin Doctrine. "Fear will keep the systems in line, fear of this Battlestation"

[crystal forum]

didn't seem to work prior

[rocky gale]

The idea being after using it on Alderaan and Yavin, people would simply give up

[opaque coyote]

Again, I think the disney version is actively cooler.

The Dark Side is based on dominance and power primarily.

So of course forcing the crystal to work for your will

And essentially abusing it to work

fits very well.

[crystal forum]

i wonder what other kind of wacky shit the empire would have come up with once the death star inevitably failed at stopping people from rebelling

[rocky gale]

Because the Tarkin Doctrine is dumb, it diverted resources from actually useful military projects to super weapons and intimidation over strategic effectiveness

[opaque coyote]

Probably something absolutely insane.

If you want some laughs, search up the wunderwaffen.

Nazi Germany did basically make the first jet.

The problem is that it's fuel was so acidic that if one step of the loading process was wrong... you'd uh

basically melt slowly while flying

[crystal forum]

laati do you think i dont know what a wonder waffle is

[polar hill]

I'm okaaay with it but the inconsistency with bleeding makes me mostly dislike it. I generally prefer synthetic crystals because they cement the fact that the Sith aren't supposed to exist, while bleeding crystals retroactively blurs that line and makes them more connected to the Jedi

[crystal forum]

sounds like every military dictatorship

[opaque coyote]

I actually like the line being blurred primarily because I always liked the idea that the Sith are essentially an extreme response to the Jedi.

Like the complete and utter opposite.

[rocky gale]

Jedi, Sith... they're all nerds.

[opaque coyote]

so true

[rocky gale]

If I had the force I'd just be chill

[crystal forum]

i do love how self sabotaging the empire is, i could almost make a real life parallel

[polar hill]

To each their own ig. I prefer the Sith being manifested null entities as opposed to just being Dark Jedi

[crystal forum]

instead i will compare to the imperium

[opaque coyote]

honestly I think that they should've moved away from the Sith so I do agree on some level also

Like

The Sith is just ONE manifestation of the dark side

It could easily have more factions that are a part of it.

[crystal forum]

star wars is locked into sith vs jedi for mainstream

[arctic talon]

Probably ended up with one of the groups Luthen was working with

might have been torn apart for parts and research

or it was used

[opaque coyote]

again, hate that shit

[arctic talon]

its obviously being used as a testbed for stuff

[storm jungle]

as I always said

[crystal forum]

it better come back in a future show

[storm jungle]

jedi are just space marines

[arctic talon]

no, thats clone troopers

[storm jungle]

I meant on media dingus

shows up

[rocky gale]

My interpretation is that the main goal wasn't even to gain the Ship, it was just to disrupt the Empire by taking it

[arctic talon]

I know this because every marine player I know plays Clone troopers in star wars legion

[storm jungle]

takes all the spotlight

[arctic talon]

/hj

[arctic talon]

Yeah the loss of that ship probably really hurt

bcs they shoved a bunch of tech onto it to test

[crystal forum]

functionally they have the inquisitor cool factor but they have the space marine branding opportunity

[arctic talon]

along with the ship itself being another expensive experiment

[storm jungle]

Yep

one of my friends was asying like

if Luthen is a jedi

hes gonna kill himself

not gonna lie me too

[arctic talon]

The theory I kept on hearing was Luthen is a jedi and he's hiding his lightsaber in his cane

i'm glad he was just

[storm jungle]

YEP

[arctic talon]

some normal dude

[storm jungle]

you need to watch the RLM review of Andor S1

[arctic talon]

okay but wtf is his cane lol

is it like

[storm jungle]

Rich points it out

and hes like

"oh no"

[arctic talon]

just a concealed knife

[storm jungle]

"OH NO"

[crystal forum]

is there even a single lightsaber seen in the show

[arctic talon]

or blaster lol

[storm jungle]

"noooooOOO"

[arctic talon]

You see bits of one in Luthen's shop

[crystal forum]

that must be a record for disney right

[rocky gale]

Loved the reveal tbh

[arctic talon]

not sure if you'd count that

[storm jungle]

aauagghh

[arctic talon]

but Luthen's shop is full of Glup Shittos

lol

[crystal forum]

also what happens to the chick

[arctic talon]

which one

the Seinar one?

we dunno

[crystal forum]

the blond who ends up in prison

[arctic talon]

oh

Dedra

[storm jungle]

Dedra?

[arctic talon]

she probably killed herself

[rocky gale]

She ends up in prison

[storm jungle]

probably dying in slave labor

lol

[arctic talon]

if she didn't uh

we dunno

[crystal forum]

deserved

[arctic talon]

Maybe she ended up getting "amniesty"

I am of the opinion she would eventually jump on the floor

[rocky gale]

Na Dedra survives

She grew up in the Kinderblock

[arctic talon]

true!

[crystal forum]

she'll make all the prisoners become her simp

[storm jungle]

one of my favorite bits of the show, i need some shit like that to happen to a 40k imperial protagonist

https://tenor.com/view/andor-dedra-narkina-denise-gough-ending-gif-4441781304951886380

I love how she puts her head into her hands

realizing all she did was for fucking nothing

its so good man

[arctic talon]

if they find out she's ISB she might get fucking lynched lol

[storm jungle]

fascists ousting each other is great

[rocky gale]

and ironically her track record would make her a prime target for the New Republics Imperial rehabilitation project, since they wouldn't know the worst she's done

[arctic talon]

Yeah

lol

She's only responsible for

genocide

[crystal forum]

the show does have a theme with the empire eventually leading everybody to ruin no matter their intentions

[arctic talon]

which is like far from the worst imperial rehabilitated

[crystal forum]

interacting with the empire is always a negative

[storm jungle]

its an allegory yeah

[arctic talon]

When do they put this glup shitto in a Disney Star wars show

[storm jungle]

fascism comes for everyone

even ones in its own ranks

[arctic talon]

I want my rebel battle bus

facism eats itself

[storm jungle]

that one Ghorman senator said it best

"Its my people today, yours tomorrow"

one of my favorite quotes i think

[arctic talon]

ISB deathmarch™

[crystal forum]

there's very straightforward nazi imagery

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

the nazis are like

[crystal forum]

like much more than usual i say

[arctic talon]

what everyone thinks of for facists

they made the speeder truck thingies

[storm jungle]

its not really that forward i think

[arctic talon]

the Imperials use

[storm jungle]

most people got no idea

[arctic talon]

based on the nazi halftrack

lol

[crystal forum]

you really feel that empire officers are gestapo in this show

[storm jungle]

the Empire also like

has always been wehrmacht and SS

lol

[arctic talon]

ISB is literally the gestapo

lol

[crystal forum]

like that trooper arresting andor on the beach

not giving a shit about if he was involved

[storm jungle]

dude that was great

"You look suspicious."

"Why are you sweatign."

[crystal forum]

it was anxiety inducing

[storm jungle]

YEP

Because its very realistic

[crystal forum]

every time a character runs in the show the empire still finds them

[storm jungle]

its what comes to my mind when 40k dumbasses are like "id love to live on a normal thats like ours as a hive"

yeah

then an enforcer would do that scene to you lmao

all because he prob has a quota to meet

and is a piece of shit

[arctic talon]

the average person in the imperium

[crystal forum]

like when the characters are at the farm. that made me think of another movie i think

[arctic talon]

lives on a hive or forgeworld

or ship

and gets worked to death

lol

[crystal forum]

i don't remember what movie

or book

with the nazis that take residence in a farm house

[storm jungle]

Inglorious Basterds

its the opening with Hans Landa

[crystal forum]

no an actual touching story

[storm jungle]

bitch

[crystal forum]

it's like a farm girl who falls in love with a german officer

[rocky gale]

Oh

[crystal forum]

anyways yeah farm and nazis

common thing i guess

[rocky gale]

Please tell me it's not Where hands touch

Which is like a love story between a black girl and an SS officer or something

[crystal forum]

i think it's suite française

just can't remember

[sly ivy]

Lmfao

Literally wat

[rocky gale]

I always remember Der Hauptman, which is based on a true story of a German private deserting and then posing as a Luftwaffe officer on personal orders from Hitler

It's mad

[soft thunder]

Sounds like Pan's Labyrinth too

[crystal forum]

weirdly a lot of farms with nazis in media

[plush mason]

like it never fails to amaze me how people miss the obvious political stuff in star wars

so much of the empire is a 1 for 1 of Nazi Germany and yet most dont see it

and Lucas himself has never denied it ether, in fact he was gona make it even worse, like Palpatine was originally gona be named Ronald Raegan ffs

[sly ivy]

Based

… is that Paul Atreides

[storm jungle]

Human beings can be pretty stupid.

theres people out there that would see the Ghorman Massacre and say they had it coming lol

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact is that generally we like to ignore our problems

Until it bites us in the ass

Education? That would require spending money

...

Why are people yelling that vaccines cause autism now?

Aaannnd Iran just got bombed

Like just now

[storm jungle]

Reality is ALWAYS stranger than fiction

[opaque coyote]

By the USA too

And the only reason why I know this now is because Trump posted it on his own social media

...

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

what else is new

[opaque coyote]

Also said in the same message "Now's the time for peace"

After bombing a country

That's

That's not how that works

[hexed orchid]

I was going to ask why Iran getting bombed is unusual, given the last week

But that makes more sense

[opaque coyote]

Fuck this I'm taking a nap

Have a good day

😴

[nocturne crest]

Odd question, but is there any mention about when or where did the Ecclesiarchy get all their unique gear from?

[arctic talon]

Custom ordered from the mechanicus or in house made by people trained by the mechanicus

[plush mason]

they may not like each other but the ecclesiarchy still needs the tech priests goods and the admech needs the cult's money

[nocturne crest]

I'm just wondering if the admech found an STC to make the pentient engine or if they did tech heresy with a sentinel.

[arctic talon]

It’s an stc prolly

[storm jungle]

A penitent engine is just a rudimentary walker with drug injectors innit

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[tough haven]

They're also like "Oh they have nukes we have to bomb them" First of all, great job antagonizing the country that has nukes, secondly, dont many other countries have nukes, and have for a while now? (Not to mention us) but we arent bombing those?

[plush mason]

enforcer is also a rank with the arbitrators?

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Luthir_Veremonn_Goreman

what a name

[dire loom]

Nice

[arctic talon]

Iran doesn’t have nukes(yet)

[storm jungle]

Dont think about it

its like how most factions in the Imperium got the same rank somewhere

writers dont keep in touch

[plush mason]

true and real

[dire loom]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[dapper gyro]

Enforcer of the Arbites is different from enforcer of the local security.

It's like shock troops, Cadian is well known, but other regiments also have shock troops. Most Marines are usually classified as shock troops as well.

[terse kestrel]

Yes bro Iran with nukes will bring world peace, trust twitter liberals

[outer wave]

As opposed to trusting FOX news orrrrrr?

[terse kestrel]

Trust twitter bro the place responsible for 90% of the worlds terrorist attacks should have nukes

[outer wave]

I dont think they should, fair, but I dont think Isreal should be randomly bombing them while at the same time dealing with Gaza the way they're dealing with them

[soft thunder]

This is one of two reasons why I started thinking the Ragged King ordered a hit on Zola and hired Arbites. I don't entertain the idea any more but I do find it worth noting. The character creator for Arbites also seems like it confirms that the enforcers attempting to collect on the cartel bounty were the rent-a-cop local enforcers not Arbites.

[opaque coyote]

Dude I was quoting Trump's Truth Social announcement

I just think it's funny because he was the one who criticized Obama for doing the literal exact same thing that he's doing now.

[outer wave]

Is Trump the only person that uses Truth Social, I wonder

[opaque coyote]

Unfortunately no.

[outer wave]

Because thats the only time I ever see that site be talked about

[outer wave]

Nothing new with Trump, unfortunately for us

Well not me specifically, but ya know

[terse kestrel]

The US is not going to war, the US is literally the only country that can remove Irans Nukes, they probably just saved Israel from being nuked

[outer wave]

[umbral kraken]

[opaque coyote]

They always say that before war starts.

[outer wave]

We dont even know the extent of the damage tbh

[opaque coyote]

That they're not gonna go to war

To be fair, I do agree that Iran was a threat. No country needs 60% Uranium Enrichment unless they're trying to make a bomb.

[terse kestrel]

People would be really mad if Trump stepped in to prevent the genocide of Jews but he probably wont

[outer wave]

What?

[opaque coyote]

Dude. I have

Zero idea on what you're referring to

[terse kestrel]

You must have missed the antisemitism rallies this week

[outer wave]

I feel like its a narrative people are using to justify the bombing run?

[plush mason]

lets all remember that the only reason the IDF attacked Iran in the first instance was because of the near defeat Bibi narrowly avoided in Parliament

[opaque coyote]

I'm gonna regret saying this.

Are you referring to the rallies about freeing Palestine/ending the Gaza blockade or the Neo Nazi ones?

The fact that I even have to ask this shows the state of politics right now.

[plush mason]

the people of Israel are tired of Net's bullshit and he knows it, so he needs a war to remain in power

thats all this is

[terse kestrel]

After the rumour of conflict theres a bunch of pro iranian rallies. These people are so dumb they are siding with terrorists over agreeing with trump

[outer wave]

Sadly every time I see the people of Isreal get mentioned, they're doing something pretty shitty

[plush mason]

the result of an extremest faction taking power

[opaque coyote]

Oh okay. I thought you were gonna say something absolutely batshit insane for a sec.