40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

This is true

also I'm surprised

one of the endings involved a Nomad Nation

and they bring up a "solution" to the biochip

they don't fucking namedrop MetaCorp????

one of the biggest nomad nations

and the most technologically advanced one

anyways this is a Nomad shotgun

[winter vessel]

sucks that the only weapon i get out of kendachi is the dang mono wire

[arctic talon]

The fact they bring up a potential solution to V's issue but they don't bring up Metacorp is weird lol

ig the name is confusing

lol

[winter vessel]

be too meta kills myself

/j

[arctic talon]

Is the monowire a good one lol

[languid meadow]

I love reading through the timeline and just see "Poland is invaded by Czechoslovakia" lmao

[arctic talon]

Pondsmith was on the good shit

tbh

I do wonder what they'll pick

for Orion

they're going to have to do a definitive ending lol

[winter vessel]

not really unless you get one of them modifiers. but i do like the finishers they do. but 90 percent of the time i'm running with gorilla arms and yeeting my enemies across the map

[arctic talon]

or they'll write up their own weird fusion ending wise

so they don't have

most of the Arasaka higher ups dead

because for all the endings other then Devil

its only Yorinobu and Mitchiko

lol

[winter vessel]

what's weird is that i recall seeing the Nomad ending being the only one where Hanako dies, and the alternative where you go in as johnny or going full solo. She goes back to Japan to "grieve"

[arctic talon]

Hanako dies in any ending you assault the tower as V with someone

which feels

weird

but whatever

I'd assume they'll keep Saburo alive somehow

same with Smasher

[winter vessel]

i must be going through my own form of psychosis, coulda sworn they wrote it that way during the game's early release

but its whatevs

Yori is the only Arasaka i find tolerable throughout this whole thing

[arctic talon]

Yorinobu and Mitchiko are the only remotely moral arasaka's

and even then Yorinobu is the only one I can respect for wanting to burn the whole thing down

his solution of playing "by the rules" and tearing the company down from the inside is smart

[winter vessel]

Agreed. And yeah, learning more about Michiko’s inner faction, no doubt both hers and yorinobu’s interests were somewhat aligned

[arctic talon]

Mitchiko and Yorinobu both hate Arasaka, but one thinks they can reform

while the other just wants to burn it all to ash

ultimately no corporation in Cyberpunk that large can be "reformed" into anything moral

[queen laurel]

Are you talking about the son of the one that blamed you for killing his father?

[arctic talon]

Yes

Yorinobu wants to blow up Arasaka from the inside out

he strangled Saburo to death

and then blamed it on V

to tie up loose ends

he essentially had total control after that

[queen laurel]

the superguard that saburo has doesn't have the ability to scan and notice the suffocation marks on the neck or something?

[arctic talon]

Thats why he was going to kill him as well

lol

remember the part where he sends assassins after you

and him

and then a bunch of people to kill you and him

capturing Hanako alive in that incident was "optional"

likely

[queen laurel]

In the 1st place what does arasaka specialize in because nomad V smuggles in a fucking iguana

[arctic talon]

Everything

lol

[queen laurel]

wow

[arctic talon]

okay more specifically

Arasaka does Heavy industry, Corporate security, banking and weapons manufacturing

oh also body guards

lots of body guards

Arasaka's most "popular" buisness

beyond literal guns

is their bodyguard one

[queen laurel]

what about their implants they have some crazy shit there

[arctic talon]

Those cost $$$ out the ass in lore

They’re “cheap” in game for gameplay reasons

Same with Arasaka weapons

[queen laurel]

Very nicely made but more expensive than 5 mansions?

[arctic talon]

Not that much

Lol

But they def shouldn’t be similar prices to budget arms and stuff

Militech as well

[dire loom]

I'm not a huge Space Marines fan, but I'm starting to become one. I started off with Imperial Guard, the Inquisition stuff.

After some more lore, I'm starting to really like the Black Templars, Blood Angels, Grey Knights, Deathwatch, and Sisters of Battle Order of the Martyr Lady (Is that how you say it?).

Like a lot.

Darktide can easily add in Black Templars and Sisters of Battle if they wanted to because of the Adeptus Arbites. Literally lore friendly. Different tutorials and intros for Arbites.. so no excuses now. Power levels be damned when you add new factions to fight.

Thoughts and opinions?

[queen laurel]

Budget arms must have a lot of business right

[arctic talon]

Yes

Absurdly cheap guns

[winter vessel]

funny how in lore a client can order a specific way of contracting security. all male or all female even a "ratio" and what variety of languages they speak in.

[dire loom]

Also really liking Adeptus Arbites Warhammer 40k space judge dredd 2.0 too a lot as well. Lol

Good stuff

[arctic talon]

It’s considered “in style” to have a bodyguard of the opposite gender who’s attractive 💀

[arctic talon]

Fatshark has said they don’t want marines

So prolly not

[winter vessel]

client: "can i get a guard that's a quadruple amputee?" Arasaka: "...sure why not."

[dire loom]

They could always change their minds, but I think it's not to overshadow Space Marines game series IP IMHO. Just a guess, but they could if they wanted to though.

Now that just leaves Sisters of Battle, they never said no to that, correct?

[queen laurel]

If you like marines that's fine but it's just that they always take the front page on anything

a game where they're not the center is appreciated

[dire loom]

True

[queen laurel]

Like don't get me wrong they're not my favorite faction and I wouldn't pull my hair out for someone liking them but they literally take every front page of warhammer 40K and in games as well

One of the reasons I play dark tide is because it's one of the few games where they're not the focus

[celest dome]

Darktide can easily add in Black Templars and Sisters of Battle if they wanted to because of the Adeptus Arbites. Literally lore friendly. Different tutorials and intros for Arbites.. so no excuses now. Power levels be damned when you add new factions to fight.

[dire loom]

I'm glad we're getting Arbites, but couldn't the Sisters of Battle get some attention too? Seems like they're only on dead niche games or Rouge Trader, but a full blown action game would be nice.

[celest dome]

No thank you

[arctic talon]

Tbh that’s not too uncommon, with cybernetics

[dire loom]

Inquisitor Martyr is cool and all.. but yeah..

[celest dome]

Sister aren't that much stronger per se, yes, but SM are

[arctic talon]

Leg replacments

Arm replacements

Also power armor balance wise

Lol

You’d be near immune to like

A lot of stuff

They could just not have that

[queen laurel]

imagine ogryn but with the mobility of zealot and precision of a veteran

that's literally what they will play like in this game

[celest dome]

Now make it a Librairian and you have all 4

[winter vessel]

well i meant in the sense of "the Corpo is so f***ed in the head sideways, they order a literal human nugget just because they can" because hot damn, them corpos are freaky deaky.

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

[winter vessel]

just resting against a wall doing nothing, lol

[dire loom]

Yeah, I hope we get em next. I just find it funny a Guardsman and cracked out Zealot taking on entire regiment size hordes of enemies. Not that it's impossible.. um but yeah.. IDK. Lol

I mean it's fun, good game Darktide is. It's fun 100/10. 10 gold stars out of 5 stars.

But does anyone else find it funny? It's fine.. but definitely not lore accurate or?

Havoc 40 I guess is more lore accurate.

[queen laurel]

it's a gameplay lore disconnect thing

we shouldn't even get that close to a beast of nurgle that close without melting

[celest dome]

Luddo Narrative dissonance, it happen in many many games

[queen laurel]

Yeah you have to make sacrifices in lore to make gameplay work

[winter vessel]

i noticed that a lot in halo

[celest dome]

Even if they do another game in 40k, I pray they don't do a SM tide game, as it would most likely mean only SM as playable 💀

[dire loom]

Yeah, I've seen that one episode of hammer and bolter. The elite storm troopers (Havoc 40 veterans from Darktide basically) just melt immediately.. Lol

[winter vessel]

how plasma burns effect flesh from covenant plasma weaponry

[dire loom]

I'm like, wait we got some major plot armor. Lol

The nurgle plague is enough for us to just die on the spot. Lol

[dire loom]

Like that one game too called Boltgun. Lol

[queen laurel]

It's very much a gameplay disconnect thing so like you really can't do anything about it

[dire loom]

1 space marine, literally did all that.

Sometimes I do think the canon lore do be having some crazy hero moments. Plus plot armor.

I just see the whole lore and power levels thing as the main argument as to why we won't get anything like Space Marines or Sisters of Battle or something he devs said no. It is what it is I suppose.

Even when it's lore friendly.

Meanwhile veteran and zealot breaks the lore, but we just gotta ignore that and move on? But no more lore friendly class archetypes with the Ordo Hereticus?

I suppose it is what it is then.

It's fine, but I just thought it's funny after knowing the lore. Lol

Now that I think about it, Darktide lore friendly classes could have been this:

Black Templar > Veteran
Sister of Battle > Zealot
Dreadnaught > Ogyrn
Psyker > Psyker
Adeptus Arbites > Adeptus Arbites

IMHO

[queen laurel]

if they built the story around them that can maybe work

the reason Adeptus Arbites fits in it's because it's explained that their job is to keep the tithe rolling and because the planet is currently disturbed

they're gonna help out the rejects

the story of the rejects is that they are criminals that was on their way to another place but they got lucky and proved themselves

But with the game you just can't bring in something like a marine

The way the story is built up your fighting is just a basic chaos cult

[winter vessel]

and our situation on Atoma Prime is a drop in a vast ocean of FUBAR the Imperium deals with on an hourly basis

[queen laurel]

Our operatives are more than enough to handle them but your character is specifically one of the more special ones canonically strike team casualties are enormous

[celest dome]

The power level is less about the amount, and more about what they could beat.
The number that are seen aren't "lore", what we beat are feasible

[celest dome]

The difference between a SM and a Dread is much higher than a Veteran to an Ogryn.

[queen laurel]

Also that yeah they're too big

lower it down to a terminator and it might work

[dire loom]

What do you think of the gene stealer cult faction theory?

[celest dome]

Termi would suck in a Tide game tbh

[queen laurel]

yeah they aren't the fastest bunch

[winter vessel]

an interesting avenue. but one i doubt would be fully realized

[queen laurel]

^

[celest dome]

Atm nothing point to them being on site.
But also nothing point to them not being on site

[dire loom]

Ah, so we're the unnamed, unknown heroes because we're fodder plebians, well for the reject archetypes. Gotcha

[queen laurel]

mind you we are now official inquisitorial agents we're now acolytes

but that's still like the lowest rank in the inquisition

[dire loom]

Gotta like em all though. Lol

Maybe one day. At least there's Space Marines 2.

[dire loom]

Oh, my bad I think I meant Terminator..

Oops

[queen laurel]

yeah i don't think a giant walking tank is gonna fit in a hallway

[celest dome]

SM would also be much more limiting for a tide game in term of personality, even in cases of using Death watch

[dire loom]

True, I always forget about that because some of the VOs still bringing up how they're a penal soldier still and not talking about how they're a Inquisitorial acolyte yet. Hopefully the new update fixes that. Like zero mention after the cutscene.at level 30 or maybe it's a one time dialogue moment. Idk

[dire loom]

I guess it's also because most people talk about their characters still being a penal legion soldier or something like a hive ganger for their roleplay and drip head cannons, so it throws me off sometimes and I forget. My apologies.

I'm liking the IRL lore about the Adeptus Arbites and it's relation to the Judge Dredd series. Crazy how I made the meme reference of "I am the Law!", when Arbites was first announced and didn't know that...but now knowing that. It makes so much sense now. Lol

[celest dome]

Tbh, it has been talked ad nauseam, but the best choices for new archetype could be:

• Tech Adept (if not even Tech Priest)
• Sister of Battle (or Non Combatant Conclave if no PA)
• Beastmen
• Squat (if PoV doesn't cause problems)
• Xenos mercs (In that case, most likely something Eldar)
• Navigator

But I think we're gonna get 2 more at max after the Arbite

[rocky gale]

Eldar sixth class!!

Their three archetypes being craftworlder, Drukhari and Corsair

[languid meadow]

Once again exodites are dead in the ditch

[celest dome]

As much lore as Felinid

[dire loom]

All interesting archetypes. Now that we got Arbites, I'm fine with them adding a Tech Adept, because I'm always worried that the Adeptus Mechanicus would be dlc again. Lol

Sister of Battle is always cool.

Beastman abhumans I can see em being added in but for lore reasons treated worse than Psykers and Ogryns in the banters in-game. For lore and immersion reasons. Maybe veterans and Ogryns sometimes be nice because they where saved by one or served with one.

Squats.. idk Bardin 2.0? It would be difficult to have a sniper so damn tiny with a horde running at em and they'll be super squishy. 1 bar of HP at best by default.

Xeno nerve would be interesting for the Warhammer 40k fans as a whole because Ork or Eldar fans could get what they want and fight alongside us (for now.. )

Navigator, probably too important to throw into a field op, but Rouge Trader is a thing so maybe.

[dire loom]

Very based list

@queen laurel hopefully they give you an Ork merc class and add special dialogue with Marrow. Lol

Would be funny.

Bully Ogryn comes close though to Ork. Lol if you pretend.

[dire loom]

Eldar Merc could be good archetype too.

Either Eldar or Ork mercs.

I still think there's something deep going on behind the scenes.

The Inquisitor MIA.

[astral burrow]

God, I wanna rewatch skelly crew

[celest dome]

Squats.. idk Bardin 2.0? It would be difficult to have a sniper so damn tiny with a horde running at em and they'll be super squishy. 1 bar of HP at best by default.
You're thinking of Ratling, Squats are bigger and known to fight in melee.
Navigator, probably too important to throw into a field op
Would be a stretch, but lorewise work somewhat if Grendyl or Brahm has dirt on a Dynasty, just lesser Navigator and such

Eldar would work quite well here (and already are on site), Orks not as much (and tbh they deserve their own game

[dire loom]

Ah that's right, my bad. My apologies. The space dwarves, I remember now.

[dire loom]

Was looking out for my Ork homies, but understandable. Lol

Only other enemy faction (besides gene stealer cult) I could see em adding is Orks though.

Gotta lookout for the Eldar homies too.

Chaos too I guess, but not a fan personally.

I don't like the Tau. Sorry

I just wish the Orks would canonically roll over em as a road bump. Would be funny plus the meme potential, but I guess they're here to stay for now I suppose. It is what it is.

Too many factions, so much damn lore.

Tyrannids are always a good enemy to fight, simple and straightforward.

Just purge Xenos, and remain calm. They remind me of the zerg though. Don't know which came first though IRL as a IP.

[celest dome]

Orks wouldn't work well into being balanced // to the current factions.
And would be strange on most of the maps/objectives

[queen laurel]

ork mercs can be pretty flexible

but yeah they just wouldn't work in the way this game is structured

[celest dome]

Orks as the tide

Not as an archetype for the player

[queen laurel]

That's why I said they wouldn't work in the way the game is structured in darktight now did it I

It's much better if they have their own game where the story is built around their tomfoolery

[celest dome]

Oh tide of Ork Mercs ?

That would be quite strange still

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah it's strange that they're this deep in imperial space

You need to clear that hurdle 1st and why your xenos marks are this deep into imperial space

[dire loom]

They got that one Ork mad max game. Lol

[queen laurel]

It's actually twisted metal

[dire loom]

It's like a demolition derby

[dire loom]

Lol yeah

[celest dome]

In term of enemy factions, the most I see is other Cults joining the fray, each themed on a different sub-group having turned to Chaos (Eg: Waste Nomads turning to Tzeentch, Enforcers turning to Khorne...)

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I think the devil/Arasaka ending is probably one that definitely not canon

Like honestly you'd kinda be a dumbass to do that ending considering how

Corps are known for fucking people over for profit

You're putting your life

With probably one of the worst ones (not the worst just one of them)

[dire loom]

Ah, so basically a true Darktide of the whole Chaos Undivided showing up.

[celest dome]

Basically, all of it being puppetted from behind by Be'lakor

[winged jacinth]

I think for new player arches mechanicus is most likely and i think there's a decent chance of eldar ranger or something
Im not sure how you'd make a sister distinct from zealot, maybe a heavy melee that's still lighter than ogryn?
I don't think navigators are usually as good at killing people as cassia but i could be wrong
Squat policy is to avoid imperial attention as much as possible (and iirc stick near the core) so i think it would be weird to see one in the warband but it could happen especially with bardin code lying around
I honestly just don't think beastmen are in the zeitgeist enough to move dlc copies

My pet random-banter-line desire is for tau weapons since there's an absolute throwaway line about pulse rifles in the oubliette lockup

[celest dome]

Admech, yes nothing to say more
Eldar, there is a possible/likely presence of them on site
Sister, Basically the hting that would have to be done would be to have the tree set less around Zealotry, but rather the Acts of Faith, somewhat setting the Sister closer to a Paladin, than just a barbarian/fighter.
Navigator are not explored much, so tbh could still work as FS need for (there is the issue of Psyker having Navigator cosmetics though).
Squat, Not League of Votaan\Kin, but rather things like the Mundan Squat, so Squats that survived on Imperial worlds.
Beastmen, still think it's an underdog candidate over the other

[celest dome]

There still so many Imperial weapons, so I don't think we will really see Xenos ones here, and would need a new mechanic or end up jarring with the Tech Priestess having to work on them

[winged jacinth]

Now that i think about it i think arbites kinda eats the other half of the sister mechanics

[celest dome]

Of Tanky character ?

[winged jacinth]

Heavy fighter with supression etc

[sullen cape]

We're my hotshots?

[winged jacinth]

I could see all three of the actives on a sister

[celest dome]

Indeed, hence why having them set as Act of Faith heavy builds would be imho the only way to make them work

[winged jacinth]

Not with the same skin obv but the effects

[celest dome]

The Mastiff and the flying thingy wouldn't match well with Sisters, neither would Impact and shock mine tbh

[winged jacinth]

Mastiff yeah, flying thing they'd just have to make it say prayers i think

I finally found a list of acts of faith after 10 trillion unique librarian powers

[celest dome]

It's on the Lexi ?

[winged jacinth]

Yeah but im on mobile so it was a nightmare lol

And i had to scroll past all the space marine tables because i didn't close the section

[queen laurel]

OK i suppose this is an ethical related question enough i guess

got flash banged by the question

[celest dome]

if Batman = consequentialist
-> Kill Joker
So False ?

[queen laurel]

yeah i came to that conclusion as well

[celest dome]

Not killing Joker has worse consequence than killing him

[queen laurel]

yep

[queen laurel]

oh for fucks sake

[celest dome]

that's a yes ?

Killing is wrong

[queen laurel]

yes it's true

[celest dome]

It's quite fun

[queen laurel]

i suppose it is fun to figure out batmans place in Ethics

[celest dome]

What is it even ? School stuff ?

[queen laurel]

yeah college related course of mine

ethics specifically

[plush mason]

wasnt killing the Joker the trigger for several evil batmen variants in the multiverse?

[celest dome]

Yes, but those stories are nonsensical, and the Batman wouldn't know it before killing the Joker

[plush mason]

true

[golden imp]

Was trayzn awake during the Horus heresy?

[storm jungle]

Yes.

He has displays of Istvaan

[raven stone]

Viewing the entire thing like a soap opera

Truly based

[queen laurel]

didn't he also say it was quite the drama that he enjoyed

[storm jungle]

yep

[astral burrow]

Ready for yer exam?

[tough haven]

He also said it was the first really interesting thing humans did

[storm jungle]

Nope.

[raven stone]

too bad he was asleep during Stalingrad battles in WW2
otherwise he would have noticed how Dropsite is just a semi-reversed Stalingrad scenario

[storm jungle]

"Ata" has more meaning than "leader"

also 4chan so explains the braindead simpletonness of the post though

(also its more a officialy given title more than his name)

[languid meadow]

I've been collecting these types of 4chan posts for a while

Just keep losing them

I think Hitler and Himmler is the funniest one for some reason

[raven stone]

I mean there are someone positive ones...

[storm jungle]

what in the-

[plush mason]

well thanks to a random lore video on the yautja i now know that female yautja are so strong and they pick up a male and toss him clean across a room, and that they do it for pleasure

[languid meadow]

Should've been m-

[storm jungle]

Yautja are hot, its known

next question

[queen laurel]

speaking of have you watched predator killer of killers

[plush mason]

nope

[queen laurel]

aight i'm stealing your food

[plush mason]

the last one i watched was Predators

[languid meadow]

Killer of killers is good

Prey is also really good

[tough haven]

Dude I really want to

But I want to watch it with my family

And it’s hard to coordinate

[sly ivy]

4chan is an ontogenetic stage in the development of the human male

I don’t mean actually being on it

I mean the metaphysical 4chan

[storm jungle]

I mean

its basically reddit without moderators

(a tough pill to swallow for a lot of people lol)

[sly ivy]

See: catcher in the rye

[astral burrow]

I mean the guy is the one that brought the surname law

I too would pick a surname like that

[astral burrow]

I am kinda ready I think

[storm jungle]

Its a cool name.

[storm jungle]

[astral burrow]

Still fluctuating a ton

But I been taking hard tests, so

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-kitty-dancing-joust-memes-de-gatos-memes-gif-15564981694074768734

[astral burrow]

Yeah fluctuating like that

[languid meadow]

I love deathwatch but their fans are cringe

[raven stone]

It is not an inaccurate comic…

[outer wave]

It's not

[copper patrol]

any kind of stuff like this always gets a suspicious eyebrow raise from me

[tough haven]

Yeah...

[languid meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277023294108864619/1385256497646141561/video0_39.mov?ex=68556825&is=685416a5&hm=c321a07ae973307c1907dae67e106591bf9301deda9bbb5bb864ceed89e80375& why can't the fans of the factions I like be normal

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209843216227368962/1385226721199919164/image.png?ex=68554c6a&is=6853faea&hm=f43e4b82899ab2b1eb20e8a085f6b142ae9026372f234f64d98ff55b017f46a5&

You see black templars, I have depicted your neophyte as the soyjack and me as the chad

[vagrant fox]

The bowlcut is practical for wearing a coif, chainmail, and a helmet okay

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/TearShapedHeart/status/1934580551999963256

HeartShapedTear (@TearShapedHeart)

Throne of Terra the serf fucked my shit up

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[arctic talon]

I love the screaming neophyte so much lol

my god this cover makes me feel uncomfortable

in a good way

[vagrant fox]

looks a bit shit in a good way yea

[outer wave]

Me as a kid, standing at the doorway of my parents' bedroom to tell them I have a tummy ache

[arctic talon]

it reminds me

of that one FW mini

the one that looks melted

[astral burrow]

9 geometry questions left

After this, I am done with studying, just one short test tomorrow then I am done

[copper patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/true-feel-that-thats-true-gif-7410050725709839510

[dapper gyro]

Most of the "more elite" sub faction fanbases are.

Though, from my experience, DW fans are less cringe than GK fans until recently.

[queen laurel]

Quick question guys what era of war of Armageddon was morrow from again

[rocky gale]

Second, he was at Hades Hive

[queen laurel]

that was when ghaz make round one on the planet huh

[plush mason]

yeah

[queen laurel]

He is one old gas bag

[plush mason]

being lost in the warp then put in a stasis tank will do that to ya

[sly ivy]

Dropping this in here from some Facebook page called Dave Paints

Fun

[plush mason]

peak helmet design

[raven stone]

And everyone yells at me for not accepting Primaris for being too big lol

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/qnwSPPVg0DM?si=QQUIh-Yb8Yq28G2R the intro is so peak

"Pay Taxes" - President Kimball of the NCR

[storm jungle]

Posting here as well

[languid meadow]

Thank you my pc is too stupid to clip/crop videos rn

[rocky gale]

Have we had mention of Marshal Vortern before?

[languid meadow]

I don't think so?

but I also don't remember much mentions of the Arbites in general ingame iirc

[arctic talon]

PAY YOUR TAXES

[spring cairn]

I wish they'd beat the shit out of people who don't pay their taxes in my country

[arctic talon]

god

Grendyl seems mad

lol

[languid meadow]

Glad they showed up at least once lmao

finally

[queen laurel]

how do arbites recruit again

[vagrant fox]

The inflection when Rannick asks when the arbites will show up
Sounds like a sad wet puppy

[languid meadow]

through the schola

Them saying "I'm running out of time" is interesting, I just assume it's them running out of patience but it could mean other stuff

[outer wave]

They mention the tithes

Send that to that guy that kept complaining about the arbites being only about the tithes

[arctic talon]

they're dead

lol

[storm jungle]

He got banned lmao

[outer wave]

I know

[queen laurel]

He's gonna pull out a random reasoning to say why it's wrong don't bother

[outer wave]

I know he got banned

[languid meadow]

Emperor bless the tax agent

[outer wave]

Just DM him randomly and go "HEY"

"LOOK"

[arctic talon]

Grendyl blaming his subordinate

and now Rannick will blame his

The cycle

[outer wave]

Im sure it'll be something like "Man, the lore aint what it used to be...."

[tough haven]

I forget when the release date is

[languid meadow]

next monday

23rd

[arctic talon]

Do you think Morrow and Zola will shit on us

or will they break the cycle

lol

[outer wave]

Anyway, I guess I should've seen it coming, but I think this'll be alot more pressure upon the original rejects and Rannick's team

[vagrant fox]

Emperor bless the Imperium 🫡

[languid meadow]

I expect them to be harsher

[copper patrol]

HMM

[languid meadow]

at least morrow

Zola has no room to speak

[outer wave]

So we got two marks on the shotgun

One has 6 shots and the electrocution shell, the other 4 shots and a more powerful shell?

[languid meadow]

yeah the second mark applies brittleness

[outer wave]

Thats awesome

[queen laurel]

the first first one doesn't hit as hard but has a stun right?

[languid meadow]

Banx maul and shield will prob be my choice of weapon

[queen laurel]

shotgun pistol and maul?

Branx is the unshielded ver

[languid meadow]

Stun version

Brittleness one

[queen laurel]

i'm getting the stun 1 then

[queen laurel]

Can you show me the, rest of the special weapons

[languid meadow]

there's two shielded versions

Mk XI and Mk VI

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/PXlwLqXVIPM?si=54Cd92NBiHxJwSap This video has all the special weapons and stuff

[queen laurel]

Different move sets is the only defining difference right

[languid meadow]

should be yes

craving for more interaction videos

cause the one we saw with auth and loner is great

[outer wave]

Wait so does the branx maul and shield hit twice with the heavy attacks?

Chocob's video suggests that at least

[queen laurel]

yeah i might go authoritarian not gonna lie

[hallow saddle]

i was gonna go maul but actually im gonna go male fatalist i think

doomer cop

[outer wave]

So the Nunico Aquilia is a place down AOE toughness replenisher and damage boon

Ngl thought it'd do supression

[languid meadow]

Auth does mention Malcy (It's supposed to be "From the Judge of Terra to Malcador"

https://youtube.com/shorts/-RXe86Xbbq4?si=SuH5oFShrCJ5APU6 also this one he says "Attend Malcadors word!"

[queen laurel]

What about the other two do you have them?

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/qnwSPPVg0DM?si=xGPuXnELJrP04e0a&t=1014 yes

I think they all mention him

it should start at the right spot

[storm jungle]

my autistic side kinda doesnt like that they dont say "Malcador THE Sigillite" but ill live lol

[queen laurel]

yeah it does

[languid meadow]

Fatalist might be what I run

[queen laurel]

He's basically the loose cannon of the group

[languid meadow]

but I'm glad big M is mentioned a bunch

[queen laurel]

what i mean by that is that he's the odd one of them group

The manageable one let's say

[languid meadow]

I wonder if the NPCs on the morningstar will be assholes to the personalities like they do to the OG 4 classes

[queen laurel]

I feel like certain personalities will be hated and appreciated

like i can see mazozi not liking the maul

[arctic talon]

The fucking omega nerd

[languid meadow]

@rocky gale Apparently Vortern is mentioned in Mortis along with what happened at Tancred Bastion but I haven't gotten that one once

[outer wave]

Tbf, who would like the maul? Guy is a genuine psychopath

[arctic talon]

The other Maul likes them

[queen laurel]

puritans

[outer wave]

Maul couple....

[outer wave]

I guess fanatics would be fans

Probably even the Savant

Man I wish the maul went "Better a hundred, a thousand, forty thousand innocent souls face mercy sanction than one Lexbreaker."

[arctic talon]

Based

[glossy sonnet]

my goat

[opaque coyote]

This is a weird question

But fuck it

I know it varies for Servitors

But generally how much of the human is replaced?

Let's say it's the ordinary Door Jockey Servitor and then a combat one

[copper patrol]

a proper servitor is just the parts of the brain that control movement from the human most the time I think

at least brain wise

body augmetics is all over the place

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's what I generally think like

A non-sadistic tech priest would try to do

[arctic talon]

Combat ones are heavily augmented

Loads of armor and muscle grafts

[celest dome]

From only the control parts, to nearly fully cybernetic

[opaque coyote]

Well as much non sadistic as a tech priest can be

[arctic talon]

Servitors can look nearly human

You know

Aside from the lobotomite gaze

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think the creepiest type of Servitors are the ones that are almost fully intact in terms of human

[copper patrol]

pretty much, and generally the mechanicum will like execute those who fuck up servitorization

[opaque coyote]

Because after that my brain kinda stops registering the horror for some reason

[storm jungle]

Depends on the servitor.

[celest dome]

The creepiest are the toy Servitor

[opaque coyote]

Ig because after a certain point I just think of them as like

[storm jungle]

As long as a brain is in there it counts

[opaque coyote]

Weird ass cyborgs

[copper patrol]

it's generally considered really bad to fuck up a servitorization even in the grimderkness of 40k

[arctic talon]

Yes

[celest dome]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/ssleho/the_bookkeepers_skull_shows_that_even_childrens/

💀

[storm jungle]

I mean they basically are

[arctic talon]

It’s considered tech heresy

To fuck it up

[shadow plover]

me and the lads when we did one too many ding-dong-ditches

[storm jungle]

I mean no?

[arctic talon]

Now granted

Who’s gona snitch

[storm jungle]

servitorization is not really considered taboo

nobody cares

they treat these people as "objects"

[arctic talon]

To fuck it up

And not properly do it yes

[storm jungle]

That too

[arctic talon]

It’s considered bad

That’s what they asked

Dilara

[storm jungle]

ı dont

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

Fucking-

DIE

[copper patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-urge-gif-6840622395128066412

[opaque coyote]

I guess because it's less of a moral thing and more like

"THIS IS LIKE THE MOST BASIC SHIT. ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID??"

[arctic talon]

Thank you durge

[storm jungle]

Also kinda related

[arctic talon]

ALL IS ASH AND MEAT

[storm jungle]

I have a document where I list any servitor job I come across in a book

[celest dome]

Dilara still survive to fight another day, new ideas need to be planned

[arctic talon]

That’s a cool document

Tbh

[young pecan]

What are a few of the funniest ones

[storm jungle]

Take a look lol

[arctic talon]

Neat

[languid meadow]

Rogue trader servitor incident

[arctic talon]

The one with the noble

[young pecan]

Coatrack

[arctic talon]

On dragonus

[languid meadow]

Yes

[arctic talon]

💀

[storm jungle]

I think the coatrack one is from a crime book in a nobleman's house which is even funnier

[young pecan]

I was about to say

[opaque coyote]

I remember wanting to make a "What if the Imperium had their version of the Internet".

I had the idea of a gaming PC literally using a Servitor as the main CPU. With the protagonist/viewpoint basically bothered that everytime it boots up, it keeps screaming for help.

[copper patrol]

rogue trader has a couple fucked up servitors in it

[young pecan]

Guarantee it's for an evil rich guy

[opaque coyote]

Like it's the equivalent of a fan making a weird noise

[storm jungle]

I keep the servitors at the bottom of my uhh

"jobs in 40k" list

all from official material

[copper patrol]

inksmith goes crazy ngl

[storm jungle]

ikr

[opaque coyote]

Wtf is the point of a coatrack Servitor

[storm jungle]

Being a coatrack.

[arctic talon]

Glad to see male prostitutes get represented in at least one book

[queen laurel]

Why is being a serial killer above being a prostitute

[copper patrol]

evil rich guy things

[storm jungle]

Its Crime

[arctic talon]

Yeah

I think I remember which book

[storm jungle]

I list them as I read them

[languid meadow]

Jack the ripper apologiest

[young pecan]

Used Groundcar Seller

[opaque coyote]

Also the prostitute names remind me of Cyberpunk

[storm jungle]

One of my favs

[copper patrol]

now, did the coat rack do anything else other then hold coats?

[arctic talon]

There are shittier jobs

Lol

It’s so mundane

[copper patrol]

like sort or fold or something?

[arctic talon]

I love it

[young pecan]

Oh def not bad

Just like

He's just there

[copper patrol]

or was it just some guys brain attached to a coat rack

[young pecan]

Selling used Terroyotas

[arctic talon]

It’s a lobotomized person with cybernetics holding coats

[opaque coyote]

I mean it's probably just a Servitor that stands there and offers to carry your coat

[storm jungle]

Basically a servitor on silent tank legs that has coatracks as arms, you can also put it over his face due to it having a bald dome

[copper patrol]

ah

so it's not just like totally functionless at the very least

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I like to think that the pointless job servitors are the ones that are also sentient/punished

[copper patrol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/928031086263566397/1154298321335222272/caption.gif

[opaque coyote]

If only because it's funnier that way

Like in the midst of their suffering, internal screaming of help, etc. they're just wondering

"WHY THE FUCK DID THEY USE MY BODY TO CARRY COATS? WHAT THE FU-"

[storm jungle]

I also got a long list of 40k "props" and items

[opaque coyote]

Btw I am definitely stealing those lists

[storm jungle]

Also food

[opaque coyote]

That's useful

[young pecan]

Weird how often servitors un-lobotomize in Rogue Trader, however brief it is that they do

[copper patrol]

you should make a list of alternate words 40k has for fuck

[young pecan]

Is this common?

[storm jungle]

Extremely extremely rare

Nomos is also a rare case

since hes|| literally a demi-god entity||

[young pecan]

I know the medicae servitor in DT constantly talks about fading away

[copper patrol]

I mean the entirety of rogue trader is a rare case tbf

[young pecan]

He seems a little too sentient

[storm jungle]

Botched procedure

because he has also lines where hes compliant

[arctic talon]

The DT servitor is fucked up

Lol

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

I assume

Carb-bar is like a granola bar

Carb-loaf and carb-slice is bread

No idea wtf Carb-slab is though

[arctic talon]

Whoever was doing the servitorization process

Did a shit job

[copper patrol]

though Ithink it's more ment to be "funny" rather then lore

[arctic talon]

Slab is prolly some sort of denser stuff

[young pecan]

"I am less than I was yesterday. Emperor help me."

[arctic talon]

Like a rice cake or something

[young pecan]

[arctic talon]

I mean it is lore accurate

[celest dome]

Like a Carb-loaf but very dense

[arctic talon]

It’s a fucked up lobotomy

[young pecan]

That tracks for Atoma tbh

[opaque coyote]

I think it's supposed to be randomized.

Like some servitors are fine but a few are fucked up

Type of thing

[arctic talon]

It’s in lore a botched servitorization job

[storm jungle]

A slab of "meat" essentially thats for carbohydrate

[arctic talon]

Someone in atoma is doing a shit job lol

[opaque coyote]

...why???

[arctic talon]

Why not

[opaque coyote]

Isn't meat mainly for protein

[young pecan]

The last thing the medicae servitor sees before dying (a martyrdom zealot is taking the last charge at no corrupted wounds)

[arctic talon]

It’s “meat”

[opaque coyote]

Ah

Still questionable why it's in "meat" form

[copper patrol]

yumby

[opaque coyote]

Although more importantly

Wtf is Omni-meat?

Is it just like a mix of different animals?

[copper patrol]

mystery meat spam probably

[storm jungle]

Because its just slop people eat, they dont get to choose

[copper patrol]

ground up emulsified then stuck back together

[celest dome]

Anything you can find mixed till its unrecognisable

[storm jungle]

Combined form of foodstuff resembling a "meat"

since "omni" means "all"

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I assume it's like

Several bits of different animals processed into a foodstuff

[storm jungle]

We'll never know...

[celest dome]

animals

peoples

[copper patrol]

isn't grox apparently pretty good?

[opaque coyote]

Probably more waste products like chicken feet

[young pecan]

The Imperium must have planets made entirely of salt for how much they have to be using it on liquified, resolidified slop

[opaque coyote]

Human hands

Etc

[languid meadow]

Ok so think of a hotdog

[celest dome]

what ever you can find

[celest dome]

Think it's mentioned as being very tough

[opaque coyote]

Nah it's unflavored

[copper patrol]

I love the slop

[opaque coyote]

The local Ratling somehow making a master dish out of two carb slabs and a Xorncob

[copper patrol]

(the secret ingredient is stims)

[opaque coyote]

And that's how they keep stealing my fucking wallet

[copper patrol]

doesn't Masozi have her oxygen tank laced with stims

idk if thats a her thing or a normal imperial pilot things

[opaque coyote]

Probably perspective enhancing type shit

To be more aware

Either that or a stimulant

[snow fern]

That or to help not fall unconscious from the impressive number of Gs

[opaque coyote]

Since pilots often need to fly for hours upon hours

[copper patrol]

I feel like the imperium gives a lot of people drugs, but we don't hear about it effecting them that much (most the time)

[opaque coyote]

It's only a problem when they run out

[copper patrol]

do we even get much of hearing about that?

[storm jungle]

Depends on the stories

[copper patrol]

outside the extreme cases for like melee shock fighters or w/e the fuck

[snow fern]

Is a dystopia, people that afford drugs are on them

[storm jungle]

theres an entire lexi page dedicated to drugs lol

also what Iron said yeah

[opaque coyote]

Not really much about the aftermath. I assume because a lot of the roles that require it have a high death toll.

[storm jungle]

drugs are a big form of escapism

40k has tons of them

[copper patrol]

obscura dens, etc

[opaque coyote]

And considering the Imperium has a lot of death

Generally people wouldn't care if someone died of an overdose

Especially if it's just random guardsman #1929938421

He died from overdosing on fentanyl

Who cares

Send in #1929938422

@copper patrol Although in a more optimistic view. I also believe that the Imperium has like easy chemical/physical detox methods

[copper patrol]

that's kinda what i'm thinking

either that or the drugs they use are like perfected a bit to not cause as many issues

[opaque coyote]

Considering some are literally so hazardous that they cause you to fucking die. Probably not

[copper patrol]

cuase if I wanted to be more dystopian i'd make them specifically addictive to uh "help control" the soldiers or a work force

[opaque coyote]

But maybe the ones that are used the most are perfected

[storm jungle]

Yeah stimm'd and drug-controlled soldiers are a thing

though thats generally for even more expendable forces

[opaque coyote]

Guardsmen still need to at least think slightly

Can't do that if they're literally high as fuck

But now an Ogryn?

Well there's no huge loss

[copper patrol]

an ogryn on crack would be terrifying

[opaque coyote]

The Horus Heresy basically used Ogryns on drugs

[copper patrol]

not to mention what ever imperial drugs to do you

charonites iirc

[opaque coyote]

Honestly kinda wish there was some Charonite style cosmetics

Or just Ogryn Cybernetic cosmetics

Honestly I think that Ogryn should get the power fist

[storm jungle]

Charonites are specifically 30k, so GW might clamp harder on it

[copper patrol]

other then the "lets put a buzz saw blade as a mowhawk"

[opaque coyote]

Why the fuck not

You got big man

Give him a weapon specifically for punching

Also power fists sound fun as shit

[copper patrol]

surely ogryn will get some sort of punching weapon eventually

the class icon is literally a fist

[opaque coyote]

Seriously though imagine an Ogryn doing wrestling moves

Ogryn doing a fucking Clothesliner against some poor heretics

[crystal forum]

@storm jungle would you be able to help me find devious 40k lore trivia questions

[sharp pollen]

like how many feet does average techpriest have

[storm jungle]

Lmao uhhh

im not sure lol

[crystal forum]

can't say them here because i want to do this for a trivia night in the channel

don't want to give all the answers

[copper patrol]

i'd recommend looking into yourhammer or lorehammer if you want some silly stuff, but a decent chunk of that is fantasy

[opaque coyote]

Also this is still one of my favorite piece of fanart

I like how it has the "official" scientific name and then the scrawled on nickname

[copper patrol]

wierd that gland warriors are on there

[opaque coyote]

I also love "corrupt souls in need of his light"

[opaque coyote]

they are technically abhumans

classified as such

still fucking weird tho

[hallow saddle]

Homo Sapiens Rotundus

💀

[opaque coyote]

I also love how the page is slightly burnt

[copper patrol]

i forgot about troths ngl

[opaque coyote]

I like to think somebody who was a bit too zealous tried to burn it

Because "Suffer not the mutant, the heretic, and the xenos"

[copper patrol]

I assume both od those abhuman races don't have any info about them really, so they did a cool thing to hide that

[opaque coyote]

Honestly would've been funny if Felinds were just like

covered with a red splotch

but then again it's a fan rendition of all of the abhumans

[copper patrol]

allegedly felinds are terrifying, they have massive retractable claws and cat-like reflexes (and according to a kroot so a very biased view) they are almost indisinguishably from regular human

[opaque coyote]

My personal headcanon combines both of the two most degenerate things

Furries and Anime!

Jokes aside, basically I like to think they have a "summer coat" and a "winter coat" which responds to temperature.

[copper patrol]

by massive I mean like fore-arm length claws

[opaque coyote]

Summer Coat is basically mostly human with some feline features. And of course those retractable claws.

Winter coat is basically full on furry

Like they can adapt to temperatures

So if they're sent on a snow planet, they suddenly turn furry, and vice versa if they're on a desert planet.

With states inbetween with their "fur" falling out

Also a personal explanation for why depictions are inconsistent

It's just the Imperium "drawing" them at certain adaptations of the temperature.

[opaque coyote]

Although I had the funny thought of the summer coat basically being like Syphinx cats

AKA fully hairless

which means they're B A L D

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, I can imagine Felinds having the attitude similar to like

Battle Beast

Although not the same look or Chadilness

Essentially really into the "Fight people, martyr yourself"

Type of shit

Combine that with Imperium Zealotry and also the fact that Cats are bitches.

[arctic talon]

Good fanart

I like how it looks like its done in fresh blood

[copper patrol]

that's about all we got on felinids

[opaque coyote]

And I can imagine most Felinds being about as rabid as a Sister of Battle basically.

[arctic talon]

could be stained ink and red

or is fresh blood

lol

[opaque coyote]

Probably a mixture

and like I said, it looks like somebody tried to burn it

Because some zealot would definitely attempt to do that out of disgust for the mutant

Like they can't even tolerate depictions of them

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think they're just hesitant on making catgirls

Jokes aside, probably not that important to them

Need more space marine bolter porn

We don't even have female Ogryn depictions

[copper patrol]

they've basically ignored most abhumans for quite a while

[opaque coyote]

For fucks sake

[copper patrol]

outside that one book with a ratling and ogryn duo

[opaque coyote]

Although I know official media described them as like

Somewhat different in terms of looks

[copper patrol]

like 40k beastmen lore is cool as fuck

[opaque coyote]

Which is sad because before I learned that

My original headcanon was that there are female ogryns

They look the same

[copper patrol]

there is one mention of a female ogryn, whom was also a psyker

[opaque coyote]

There are differences but only Ogryns and people who are trained can discern

But unfortunately that's not true since there are noticable differences

[copper patrol]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cassia_(Ogryn)

[arctic talon]

40k beastmen

are so much b etter

then every other iteration GW has

because in the other ones they are just literally onotologically evil

like

Cmon

[copper patrol]

penitent animal people fighting for redemption is pretty badass

[storm jungle]

The killteam book they got also explores them quite well

[arctic talon]

yeah

[storm jungle]

one of my fav things to read

[hallow saddle]

standard 40k setting W

[shadow plover]

40k beastmen are better than they deserve to be

[arctic talon]

its more about chaos aligned ones

But still very good insight

into them

[opaque coyote]

40k beastmen are actually interesting on how the Imperium's hatred of the mutant is a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts

[arctic talon]

Imperial agents book also has a beastman kitbashing guide

which is neat

[opaque coyote]

After all, if they call you a monster

no matter what you do

[arctic talon]

its alot more then just calling

tbf

[opaque coyote]

Might as well give them what they want.

[copper patrol]

a minotaur armored up like a bullgryn would go crazy

[snow fern]

A minotaur suited up in tank armor would be sick af

[opaque coyote]

tbf I don't think pure evil races are bad

Frieren actually does interesting things wth Demons

[arctic talon]

okay but GW tries to act like there's some moral conondrum with beastmen

in AoS

and WHFB

when there isn't

they are just evil

[opaque coyote]

But the Beastmen are kinda boring since they are just like

[arctic talon]

there is literally no reason

for people who are not beastmen

[opaque coyote]

evil bad guys

[arctic talon]

to not kill beastmen

beyond if they dislike killing

you aren't safe as a chaos follower

you aren't safe as a non chaos follower

the only thing beastmen won't kill and do horrific things to is daemons

[opaque coyote]

Again Inheritely evil races can be interesting, but the AoS beastmen are just not it man

[arctic talon]

because beastmen like punching down

lol

so GW's moral conondrum fails

[opaque coyote]

If the Beastmen actually were neutral to Chaos Followers, it would be interesting

[arctic talon]

I'm not sure why they tried to make it that

in the first place

they should have just been pure evil

and presented as such

[opaque coyote]

They succeeded in 40k at least

[arctic talon]

yes

because they avoided the whole

"beastmen actually hate all non beastmen and civilization and are super racist and kill, torture and thing I can't say that rhymes with grape everyone"

[opaque coyote]

Which sucks even more ass that they might as well not exist with how much presence they have

[opaque coyote]

Again Beastmen would be interesting if they were pure evil mostly

But if you worship Chaos, they're neutral

Like they don't try to kill, torture, or r-[PLAY BALATRO WITH YOU]

Chaos worshipping individuals

If only to see their character

[arctic talon]

Yeah well too bad

anyways GW had the beastmen get genocided in AoS

by both Chaos and Order

[copper patrol]

[opaque coyote]

RIP

Beastmen are cool as shit design wise though

[arctic talon]

Also beastmen are racist towards their own kind as well

if you're aligned with one specific chaos god

as a beastmen

[opaque coyote]

Yeah they sound too similar with the Skaven

[arctic talon]

they just lynch you

lol

[opaque coyote]

Again, 40k should do more with their version of the Beastmen, they actually sound interesting.

[arctic talon]

40k does a good bit, I would like more

[copper patrol]

they do also have "races" with them treating some kinds as inferior

[arctic talon]

they are much better in 40k then any other system

[arctic talon]

thats more of a stratified caste like society

but yeah I agree

[opaque coyote]

which is funny considering it's usually the opposite for most things

[copper patrol]

bit of both

[opaque coyote]

only in the grimdarkness of the 41st millenium do the beastmen actually have personality

[arctic talon]

depends on what you want

tbh

the settings do different things well

[opaque coyote]

fair

[arctic talon]

anyways I will shit on AoS beastmen

not because I dislike the army

[opaque coyote]

I generally like 40k more because I'm into it's mixture of scifi and pure fantasy

[arctic talon]

but because GW somehow made them worse then WHFB beastmen

by trying

to fucking give a moral issue

or represent the situation as one

when no

[opaque coyote]

Literally just make them normal even if they were made by Chaos.

Like just don't have them randomly lynch people

[copper patrol]

like I think even beastmen children if they get raised even by like relatively loving people will eventualy flip out

or some shite

[arctic talon]

I don't fucking care thats their culture, I don't think a civilizations entire culture, which rotates entierly around murdering, torturing and **[REDACTED}**ing people and treating their own kind horribly

and brutally maiming and killing anyone who steps out of line

has any real moral conondrum

when we literally see there are more normal beastmen in AoS

who are aligned to one specific god more heavily

[arctic talon]

Yeah thats from WHFB, beastmen are just inherently like that

they hate civilization

[copper patrol]

[sly ivy]

Just like me fr fr

[opaque coyote]

Again, Beastmen would be more interesting if their culture didn't randomly murder people.

If you want a moral conundrum

[arctic talon]

anyways the one redeeming thing with beastmen lore in AoS

is that they can be normal

[opaque coyote]

Don't have them SA people

[arctic talon]

if they worship chaos

like

more

which is weird but okay

[opaque coyote]

how

what

💀

[arctic talon]

if they worship chaos not in the brayherd style

they become less psychotic

they're still inherently assholes and such like skaven

but their first response to finding some random person isn't to hack their limbs off and murder them

[opaque coyote]

yeah nah this shit sounds like ass

[arctic talon]

This also applies to the god aligned beastmen

who are

less racist

like Tzaangors and Slaangors

[opaque coyote]

How does worshipping the gods that resemble the worst aspects of humanity

[arctic talon]

[opaque coyote]

calm yo u down?

[arctic talon]

It doesn't calm them down

so to speak

[copper patrol]

they way they normally worship them is pretty primal

[arctic talon]

it just makes them think in a different way philosophically

[opaque coyote]

makes you more intelligent

[arctic talon]

in lore

beastmen are not dumb

for one

[copper patrol]

as like a chaos anathema to all order thing

[arctic talon]

that is one thing GW has always made clear

regarding them

beastmen are pretty fucking smart

[copper patrol]

Many, many good men of the empire have been lost becuase they didn't realize this

[arctic talon]

beastmen are the morale bomb army

in both WHFB and AoS

well

not sure about AoS 4e

but they were in 2e and 3e

beastmen could also practice crop rotations

a tzaangor literally brings this up

she is literally torn apart for this suggestion

yet another beastmen W

[copper patrol]

there is a reason they are the second favorites of the chaos gods

[arctic talon]

third favorite

[copper patrol]

they beat the fimir?

[opaque coyote]

It's funny to imagine a Beastman worshipping Chaos a different way, and also imagining one of the Chaos Gods being like.

"As a reward, I shall give you a revelation... you don't need to kill somebody immediately."

"Holy shit. I never thought of it that way!"

[arctic talon]

I'm joking

I think the fimir have even less favor

they're not even chaos aligned in AoS

and they got rid of all the weird rhymes with grape stuff

[copper patrol]

understandable tbf

[arctic talon]

they're def chaos aligned in WHFB though

I'm not sure why they didn't get rid of that stuff with beastmen

but sure why not GW

they just heavily imply it now

instead of writing about it

[opaque coyote]

tbf you could have that be more like genetic memory. A lot of animals like squrriels do things instinctually like bury nuts without really knowing the purpose of it.

[copper patrol]

regardless of it being cringe, shock bait nonsense, it didn't particularly make sense

[opaque coyote]

They could just know what crop rotation is without actually knowing it.

[arctic talon]

anyways Lord Helmwar might confirm that beastmen can have kids with normal people in 40k

because of Gor

Gor is implied to be his kid

[opaque coyote]

oh n-

[arctic talon]

Now tbf

[opaque coyote]

oh wait 40k

[arctic talon]

Helmwar has like

a fuck ton of kids

[opaque coyote]

thank god

[arctic talon]

but still Gor is implied to be his kid lol

[opaque coyote]

I thought it was from uh

uhhhhhh

[copper patrol]

the goatussy got him 😔

[opaque coyote]

yknow

[arctic talon]

look, Gor has aura

look at him

now there's a beastman

[copper patrol]

tuff as fuck

[opaque coyote]

I think that's the only abhuman species that's confirmed to be able to

[arctic talon]

nah

psykers and voidborn

[opaque coyote]

oh yeah

[arctic talon]

also blanks(if you count them)

[opaque coyote]

I forgot psykers and voidborn were abhuman

[copper patrol]

I'd assume most should be able to? otherwise they'd not be considered abhumans

if there is that much deviation genetically

[arctic talon]

most cannot explictly

its why they're called abhumans

[opaque coyote]

Nah, Abhumans just need to be able to breed with each other and create another one of their species.

[arctic talon]

they're stable and can only interbreed with themselves

not a homo sapien and neandrathal thing

going on

Voidborn and psykers both arguably shouldn't even count as abhuman

[opaque coyote]

Except for like 4 species.

Although tbf Beastmen technically aren't Abhuman anymore. I think they're now just classified as mutants

[arctic talon]

no

they're abhuman

well

depending on Region

[opaque coyote]

I mean politically

[copper patrol]

they get mistaken for mutants

[arctic talon]

but on Terra they're abhuman still

so

[opaque coyote]

Abhuman is basically a political term

atp

[arctic talon]

Yes

it is

explictly

[opaque coyote]

Psykers and Voidborn are abhuman purely because it'd probably give half the ecclesiarchy a seizure to classify them as "human"

[snow fern]

Abhuman just means, “Mutant we don’t shoot on sight”

[copper patrol]

I am no magos biologos but i'd assume that for it to be considered an abhuman and not a xenos it'd need to be close enough to the human genome that they'd be able to interbreed, like how different dog breeds can

[storm jungle]

No its mostly "if its useful"

[winter vessel]

Yeah that

[storm jungle]

its the joke, its hypocritical

"ab" literally means abnormal

aka what a mutant is

[snow fern]

Hypocrisy!!! In my Imperium?!?!?

[arctic talon]

Hi Dilara, do you think when GW redoes beastmen for AoS they'll actually be interesting

or will they be the generic chaos horde that you can kill with 0 guilt

[snow fern]

Aberrancy is a plague!! Or something idk

[storm jungle]

Id hope so but I wont be surprised if they dont

[opaque coyote]

Nah it's basically just "mutant that's genetically consistent and not shoot on sight"

[arctic talon]

mfw they keep the "don't get captured alive" lore bit

[opaque coyote]

I think the Kin/Squats/etc. are considered Shot on Sight.

[arctic talon]

they aren't

its debated in universe

regionality moment

[snow fern]

They aren’t a part of the imperium rn I think

[storm jungle]

Its left open so that you can homebrew it yeah

[arctic talon]

most are not

[storm jungle]

some Kİn openly trade with humans

some are straight up genocidal

some dont care

[opaque coyote]

Fair.

[storm jungle]

etc

[opaque coyote]

The squats finding a new planet and praying that they don't immediately try to genocide them enough to actually trade: