40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

this dude

[opaque coyote]

Fun fact, Guile from Street Fighter is inspired off of Polnareff from JJBA in terms of hair style. Guile was one of the first Zoners.

So when they made JJBA Heritage of the Future and added Polnareff, he became a Zoner.

And to this day he's S tier for HFTF.

[arctic talon]

Heritage of the future is kusoge

lol

[queen laurel]

does he fight like a very fast big body or something?

[arctic talon]

No

he's potemkin

lol

but faster

[queen laurel]

he doesn't play like a traditional grappler no?

[arctic talon]

he does

he plays like a traditional anime fighter big body grappler

[jade holly]

I’d play Guile more

But charge inputs anger me

[arctic talon]

tager is absurdly meter hungry

[jade holly]

That’s why I play the Giefster

[arctic talon]

unlike potemkin

[queen laurel]

So faster grappler?

[arctic talon]

Gief

[arctic talon]

yeah

Anime fighter and tag fighters are always faster

tbh lol

Ngl I don't like charge inputs either

lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah I can see that working for Hulk

they could also just make him like a hard hitting big body character

But the latter option is way more boring

[arctic talon]

anyways if Tokon plays like Blazblue crosstag

I'm sticking my hand in shattered glass

because blazblue crosstag

is kusoge

[queen laurel]

Are you even gonna pick it up because from my talks with you you're more of the traditional single by single fighting game type of guy

[arctic talon]

I will

I play tag fighters

just not as much

they're always higher comittal to learn

t b h

[queen laurel]

Hey you can tolerate league what's a degenerate anime marvel fighter gonna do to you am I right

[arctic talon]

because blazblue crosstag makes me need to play into Yang

or Adachi

or Chie

or Hyde

If anyone plays like Adachi from BBTAG in Tokon

I am going to scream

I love my Grappler, rushdown, zoner hybrid

with a full screen + on block fireball that can go high

character isn't even top 1

💀

He's like top 3 though

lol

[sacred ginkgo]

Why is adachi stronger in spin-offs than his actual game

[arctic talon]

Adachi is strong as fuck in P4AU as well

but he's limited by lack of Persona cards

in BBtag they removed persona cards so uh

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO

[sacred ginkgo]

How does this happen

[arctic talon]

because BBTAG is a tag fighter and broken bullshit is the standard

Adachi just was really limited by his cards

he only had 4 cards for a reason lol

• lost more cards on counter hit

[queen laurel]

Still though if it's a sign that good marvel games are becoming more and more common

I'm up for it

[arctic talon]

ye

[queen laurel]

Marvel rivals had the market on a chokehold

And now marvel is careening into the fighting game scene with tokon

[arctic talon]

• on block btw

lol

[queen laurel]

**** is that hitbox

[arctic talon]

its a giant laser beam

Maziodyne is by far the best pressure tool in the game

[sacred ginkgo]

Damn those are some fuckin rectangles

[arctic talon]

it looks like this

without the hurtbox lol

Also hilarious they gave him the double card version of heatriser where it has a hitbox

[sacred ginkgo]

I don’t even remember if he can cast maziodyne normally

[arctic talon]

he can yeah

[sacred ginkgo]

Guess I just didn’t care

[arctic talon]

all his special moves in BBTag/P4AU are moves he uses in his bossfight

[sacred ginkgo]

He was very easy to just beat to death because of beloved Yoshitune

[arctic talon]

except for his command grab

where Magatsu-Izanagi just grabs you and shanks you a bunch of fucking times lol

kind of funny how adachi has a practical instantkill combo

but a lot of the Persona 4 characters do

I think its literally just Yukiko and Aigis who don't have a practical instantkill combo

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/oljZbk9qsMM?si=Sy1cGuI0Ll_M9f68

Why do these old commercials have strangely smooth animation

[dusky scroll]

How loyal are the rogue traders to the Imperium?

[opaque coyote]

Idk how loyal is Walmart to America?

[celest dome]

Depend on the RT

[dusky scroll]

I'd assume quite a bit. They follow the law as far as I know as a non-American.

[opaque coyote]

Basically varies between rogue trader to rogue trader. They are probably unironically the freest in the Imperium

[dusky scroll]

Can they be doing things against the Imperium?

[opaque coyote]

As long as they don't worship Chaos or make explicit deals with Xenos that harms the Imperium

They're good

[celest dome]

Ye

Same as Inquisitors

[opaque coyote]

You can literally have Xenos companions and companions~

So yeah

[dusky scroll]

Inquisitors do things against the Imperium?

[opaque coyote]

I have no idea why the Eldar specifically need to meditate while naked

But hey I ain't complaining

[dusky scroll]

I don't mean the methodology of doing things. I mean the intention. Can they (both Inquisitor and Rogue Trader) be against the Imperium explicitly?

[opaque coyote]

No

They can't start a rebellion

Or something

[celest dome]

Hereti ones yes

[opaque coyote]

They can do things that most Imperium nobles can't get away with

Like I said

As long as they don't worship Chaos

Or like say supply Xenos with weapons enmass

Then they're fine

[dusky scroll]

So a Rogue trader can't decide to wave the flags of Tau or something?

[celest dome]

If an Inquisitor or a RT get found out to do things against the Imperium then they might get attacked

[opaque coyote]

No, they would be declared a heretic.

They can trade with the T'au though

[dusky scroll]

I know their license is transferrable. But does it have to be hereditary? Like, let's say a Rogue trader started doing too much shady stuff and have a rebellion from within their domain that wins and takes over their license?

[opaque coyote]

There is no exact way to get one initially. The only consistent factor is that you're exceptional in some way.

But 99.99% of the time it is hereditary

Theoretically you could win one by being such a good card player, that you get a warrant by the adminstratum

[astral burrow]

Put my computer away I will study nonstop till I sleep

[opaque coyote]

But that will never happen

[opaque coyote]

Gl

[opaque coyote]

It basically goes to their next of kin, or revoked completely.

Depends on how bad it is.

But usually it's next of kin

It's kept hereditary because the Adminstratum wants less paperwork

But also for generational wealth.

This is also why Rogue Traders fuck a lot

Seriously I think in the RT game you're like the 50th son or something

All the others literally just died or are too incompetent

There's also the Warrant of the Marquis, which makes you have a role similar to a Rogue Trader but lesser

And ends when you die, with no method to pass it on. Although a specific expiration date/condition can also be applied as well

It's basically a temporary endorsement by a rogue trader to do some shit in their place

[raven stone]

Morning chat

[opaque coyote]

Hello Display Name 6539235256

[raven stone]

😅

[tight stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/sneeze-oops-wipes-gif-17126786

the type of collar id love for a psyker

no idea if a psyker would ever have a glassbowl collar tho

[raven stone]

Muscle memory is hard to ignore 😅

[tight stratus]

muscle memory?

[raven stone]

The actress sneezed and reflexively tried to wipe her nose even when she is aware she had a glass dome over her head.

Muscle memory.

[lofty mason]

Do geneseeds only work with humans? Like, what if a Tau captured an Astartes and tried to implant the geneseed into a Tau test subject?

[raven stone]

Geneseeds are designed by The Emperor, so most likely only humans.

Granted, Tyranids are rumoured to have corrupted Marine DNA to create the Tyrant guards.

But other races doing manipulation are unlikely to be successful.

Tyranid are an exception because they are, well, fully biological.

[queen laurel]

It was designed with human biology in mind so only humans

[raven stone]

and all about that biological DNA engineering.

[queen laurel]

yeah but that's tyranids

If it has biological biomass and DNA and stuff they can turn it into something

[raven stone]

Yea they are exception, as stated.

Not even Kroot can steal Marine DNA per se.

Despite their whole eat to evolve gimmick.

[queen laurel]

In the 1st place the other races don't even need it

orks could overpower space marines and continuously grow in size and strength for example

eldar are just biologically built different

tau have good enough technology that they can supplement their weaknesses

And many more

[raven stone]

Yea, Tau just use superior firepower (and are also biologically built different as a non-human species)

[crisp heath]

geneseed only works with pure strain human if a human is mutated the geneseed wont take or kill them in the case of genestealer cultist

[raven stone]

Found on FB

[sly ivy]

Lmao

[paper haven]

When the Orks show up for "Da biggest fight" and claim to be on your side.

[raven stone]

HH 3rd Ed leaks all over the place

Army building does look a bit more flexible.

Primary “compulsory” is only 1 command and 1 troop, allies only 1 command (not that that does much, but it means no allied troop tax)

No leaks on allied forces relations though.

Lords of War can still be drawn from any faction.

[sharp pollen]

can orks build weapons and machines from scrap?

like, from complete garbage?

[raven stone]

The salvaged working parts probably has to register as “gun-like” to the Ork mind for it to work

But otherwise, beyond that, once they cobble it together, if they believe it shoots dakka

It shoots dakka

[queen laurel]

tell him they need actual salvaged working parts

They have actual mechanics for actually building stuff

it's just that the stuff they built isn't really well put together

[raven stone]

Fixed

[queen laurel]

Their mechanics still obeys the laws of mechanisms of engineering like building and stuff it's just that the things they build is so badly stuck together

that more often than not they explode

the WWWAAAAAAAAGGGHH just holds it together

[raven stone]

Warp super glue lol

[tough haven]

How large is a grot compared to a human?

[tough haven]

Think like pipe guns from fallout

Like theyre made from things that no one in their right mind would use as gun parts, but that kinda work

[shadow plover]

danny devito

[tough haven]

theoretically it can fire a bullet, but it really shouldnt

but certain parts that should move, are welded down, and parts that shouldnt move, move around far too much

[queen laurel]

Around the size of a warhammer dwarf

[tough haven]

So like 3 foot about

?

[queen laurel]

yes

[wintry scarab]

Quick rant: Ive been noticing that people lose their shit when you call a stone, a stone. Most games these days have a battlepass in them. Just because its called "the segmaballscheesepass" does not not make it a battlepass. If it has tiers, weekly/daily challenges and is seasonal, it is a battlepass. Just because a game has another word for a lootbox, does not suddenly make that thing not a lootbox. Rant over

[queen laurel]

This isn't meant to be a sarcastic question but do you have no other place to rant

like as a genuine question

[wintry scarab]

No, i basically only use discord in this server and just so happened to settle in this chat. And come on, i constantly see even the server mods talk about random shit, so its not like im breaking any rules. At least i dont think i am

[queen laurel]

i mean you're not i'm just genuinely curious

so this is like the only discord server you common in

[wintry scarab]

Yeah, i just spurt random stuff in here to see if people share my opinion

And i do use it for 40k lore a lot of times as well

[queen laurel]

I mean I can't blame you the people here are some of the most reasonable I've met

[wintry scarab]

The other times ive tried to join other discords, ive had super random issues that, at least in my opinion, didnt really have to be issues. So ive just settled here.

[queen laurel]

Hey you're welcome anytime

[wintry scarab]

🙂

[sharp pollen]

my question is - can they build catapults from trees and sticks

[raven stone]

Sincere thanks for the compliment

[shadow plover]

counter argument: battlepass is a stupid name and I welcome any alternative name for it

[raven stone]

TBF he isn’t against the naming of it, more that people are saying “it is called [x] therefore it is not a battlepass mechanic” when it clearly is a battlepass mechanic.

[shadow plover]

oh that's fair yea

[storm jungle]

no

it needs to be somewhat mechanical in nature

[storm jungle]

Yeah why did the battle pass, im still playing the game arent i

[sharp pollen]

so if they happen to be born in a jungle, their maximum is sticks and spears, right?

[storm jungle]

Yeah feral orks

[sharp pollen]

and if they happen to be born on some wasteland with scrap dump all over the place, will they make weapos from it?

[storm jungle]

then they go Age of Empires and slowly starting getting industrialized

[storm jungle]

Yeah they will.

Its why Meks exist.

[sharp pollen]

no shit?

[storm jungle]

Yeah.

as an ork horde grows they get more smart orks among their ranks who do the logistics/development stuff.

[sharp pollen]

omfg

[storm jungle]

remember that they are bioweapons, so its like them unlocking new shit in their social skilltree

[sharp pollen]

civ

[queen laurel]

Tell him one of their lower end inventions is literally a titan powered by steam

[tough haven]

Almost definitely

childs play

[queen laurel]

they can't they need more things than just the sticks and trees

[tough haven]

Oh I didnt realize he meant literally just sticks and trees

[sharp pollen]

im just imagining some feodal world going mad seing orks with catapults and HUGE ASS WOODEN STOMPAS

[tough haven]

They could probably use some sort of squig material or plant fibers and whatnot to make the rest

But yeah orks literally just have instinctive knowledge of how to develop a "civilization"

Some of them just are born with specific specialized knowledge

Speaking of civilization, have any of yall played Humankind?

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/hideo-kojima-spinning-kojima-spin-gif-6381292021902654781

[vagrant fox]

Humankind is alright, war and peace system sucked iirc

[wintry scarab]

How i feel after someone defends my opinion

[tough haven]

I got it for free on epic but I dropped it quickly cause its way too complex for my friends to play with me, and thats really what I'm looking for, a rts or otherwise strategy game that isnt too complex for me and my friends to play against each other

[outer wave]

Just got the idea for a Lord of Change whos forces are more ocean life based and is basically a Lord of Change so large that it sunk waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy down into the abyss of Tzeentch's domain, and thus can only communicate to their followers and fellow daemons via sigils.

Just wanted to say that

[astral burrow]

[late osprey]

as it happens, there IS a body of water in Tzeentch's domain

[elder oak]

Lord of change.

[outer wave]

Ooooh that works perfectly

[outer wave]

Lord of Change when you ask for money

"Keep the change."

[opaque coyote]

I posted this picture before but this

Reminds me of this

[astral burrow]

I prefer "winning smile"

[storm jungle]

Very close time periods.

so that checks out lol

[spare osprey]

Vjun mentioned

[opaque coyote]

They know what the fans truly want

The story of the galaxy continuing? ❌

insert loyalist Primarch coming back here

❌

Cheaper figurines for countries like Australia?

❌

ANY TYPE OF XENOS WIN??

❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌

"Primary fractal-edged blade for worthy foes"

✔️

[opaque coyote]

You ever sometimes wish that Tzeentch had like

A more Egyptian form

Or at least one of them

Or at least was in line with the bird theme

Obviously the Lord of Change kinda is a parallel to the Egyptian God Thoth

"The Egyptians credited him as the author of all works of science, religion, philosophy, and magic. The Greeks further declared him the inventor of astronomy, astrology, the science of numbers, mathematics, geometry, surveying, medicine, botany, theology, civilized government, the alphabet, reading, writing, and oratory. They further claimed he was the true author of every work of every branch of knowledge, human and divine."

Always wonder why culturally, we associated Birds with Knowledge ever since ancient times.

Even now, we associate Owls with being smart. With a ton of posters existing with Owls as the ones wearing glasses and being academic.

It's a weird consistent thing.

I wonder, specifically for 40k mind you, if gods like Thoth were actually Daemons on Earth.

Similar to the old lore that had Khorne be birthed by humanity. I kinda wonder if during the ancient era of humanity, there was a "secret war" of sorts.

And the reason why the Emperor comparatively did jackshit in the earlier days (at least in terms of note) was because he was too busy fighting Daemons that wanted to influence humanity.

By the time the Emperor finished "cleaning up" with things like the Void Dragon.

He saw humanity's progress and was confident that things were gonna go swell!

...

And then it fucking went tits up

[outer wave]

Mmmm not really; I wish he had more of a deep sea theme, considering back in the day, the sea was closely associated with chaos and was feared for that (aside from, you know, drowning and all).

While I like the raven theme of the Lords of Change, I feel GW leans SO heavily into the bird theme way too much

For a god of unstable change, his greatest minions are really consistent in design for some reason

Pink horrors do a better job representing that aspect of him I feel

Octopi can also work as Lord of Change alternative looks since they're typically very smart creatures

Dolphins too even if we wanna go down that route

Overall, I feel there should be more sea things in Tzeentch's daemon entourage like nautili or fish people or the like

[opaque coyote]

That is true. The ocean is known for being mysterious

Also all of his depictions have him look something lovecraftian which is also sea inspired

[outer wave]

Mhm, he has a general mollusk look to him

[opaque coyote]

I also kinda want to make human "disguises" for the Chaos Gods.

Like if I had to make up an excuse. It's basically just the forms they take when they wanna watch something in person

Also cause it would be fun.

[opaque coyote]

I thought of Tzeentch looking similar to a "friendly" scientist.

Looking more like one of those stupid ass "library" pictures.

[outer wave]

I recall the fandom wiki (yes I realize) once said many years ago that Tzeentch can come in many forms: mist, a man, woman, etc

[opaque coyote]

Yeah generally the Chaos Gods have multiple forms.

So making up one wouldn't go against canon

also would be fun

[opaque coyote]

I thought of Khorne being this buff Strongman. Kinda like this body type

[outer wave]

ZANGIEF

[opaque coyote]

Either that or taking the form of a Guardsman.

Like a ""regular"" guardsman.

Something that I kinda wish GW tackled was the Chaos Gods technically having multiple aspects.

I know the ""good"" side of the Chaos Gods are mostly fanon. With the only evidence being a guy basically coping. And I don't want to have actual "good" aspects.

[astral burrow]

61/80

Finally back in my usual spot for tests

Phew

[opaque coyote]

Not bad

[astral burrow]

Will be great if it gets better but this is... acceptable

[opaque coyote]

See, told ya a break would do ya well

[astral burrow]

[opaque coyote]

But I have thought about depicting the aspects that show the misery that causes their existence.

Because sin is sourced from trying to ignore the pains of life.

[outer wave]

I mean, I dont believe its quite fanon; they absolutely do represent those good things, but they're all twisted and they're still going to be used for their own nefarious reasons

[opaque coyote]

Like people do drugs to ignore the problems

So I thought of an aspect of Khorne basically being a tired soldier.

Beaten and bloody.

Wondering why he's fighting.

Wondering why he has to kill.

Wondering if anything he's doing is worth it.

[celest dome]

Even the Law gods of old lore could hardly be called good tbh

[opaque coyote]

Khorne is an "answer" to this. You do it for it's own sake.

You kill for yourself.

You kill for your own strength, your own "honor".

You kill for blood, for the king, for country.

[outer wave]

This isnt 40k, but what about those gods that Kruber and Sienna look up to, like Taal and Myrmidon?

[opaque coyote]

But even within the god that demands skulls and blood.

Is a tired soldier waiting to go home.

...but he never will.

And more importantly, he never wants to.

[celest dome]

They're better, but they're not on the same level as the Chaos and law gods

[opaque coyote]

For what would he do himself if he stops fighting?

[outer wave]

Of course, they seem much more niche gods

[opaque coyote]

Slaanesh would be represented by the aftermath of an addict.

Basically "after" the high.

A person completely out of it and realizing the weight of their problems.

And crying.

Basically, this might sound pretentious, but I like to think the Chaos Gods themselves are also torturing themselves.

But they're way too deep in their own concepts similar to their followers.

Way deeper that they don't even know that they're suffering.

Because an "addict" is happy until they get their fix.

And the Chaos Gods are basically addicts to their specific concepts.

Even the laughter of thirsting gods hides the pain of a miserable existence essentially @outer wave

Is that too pretentious

[outer wave]

Well, yeah probably

They're basically TTRPG players stuck forever playing the same TTRPG until the end of time

I dont think its too pretenscious, but its not like the chaos gods deserve much sympathy

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it's less sympathy and more tackling the Chaos part.

And also how even the Gods of the concepts are in pain.

They just don't know it.

Because the concepts are painful themselves.

[outer wave]

I think they do, but they try and distract themselves with their known elements

Or at least, Tzeetnch may know, assuming the whole theory that he knows where everything is based in is true

[opaque coyote]

Maybe it's just me trying to imprint human qualities on literal dieties that can slice planets with one slash.

But considering that the Chaos Gods horror is that they're familiar, I think it's fair.

[outer wave]

Well, they're not that inhuman somehow, especially since they represent certain emotional states and concepts

[opaque coyote]

Like they aren't an unknown monster. They are well known.

[outer wave]

Mhmm

[opaque coyote]

And the most horrifying part is that no matter how much we try. We keep falling for it on some level.

But we can also rise up from it as well.

[opaque coyote]

I doubt they would want it either LMAO.

But I think it would be interesting to tackle.

[outer wave]

What, the angle that they're all tortured beings in their own ways? It could definitely be

But I almost feel it could also easily fall into the whole "Sympathetic bad guy" trope

Where, you know, you got an objectively awful villain, but because they lost their wife and kids, they're now not so bad!

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact that Chaos is well Chaos.

Of course they would have parts that would stop themselves. Tzeentch does it all the time.

[outer wave]

They dont wanna actually end anything

[opaque coyote]

Maybe the individual ""parts"" would be sympathetic. But the greater gods themselves?

Nah.

They want the game to continue forever.

Because the nature of Chaos is self-contradicatory.

[outer wave]

When you say parts, do you mean individual daemons? Like would Skarrbrand have a sadder backstory because of it?

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah Daemons are technically shards.

I mean kinda?

More like representations of what would bring them into existence.

Like I said, sin is often caused by trying to escape pain.

with each chaos god representing an "escape"

[outer wave]

I mean, it's kind of a funny idea if pulled off weird, like a really sad Khornate Daemon because he's made aware of other emotions, but only feels anger and hate

A la Angron and World Eaters

[opaque coyote]

It is funny lmao

But yeah it just represents the question that the Chaos Gods "answer".

"Why do I fight?"

"For blood, for 'honor', for skulls and glory."

"How can I escape the troubles of my life?"

"Revelry, escape into another world! Ignore reality."

"How can I stop this suffering?"

"Accept it, let it consume you."

[outer wave]

Isekai.....

[opaque coyote]

Y'know I've always imagined nurgle as a trucker...

[outer wave]

He does have daddy trucker energy

[opaque coyote]

but yeah essentially it's also supposed to represent that the answers that the chaos gods present don't "solve" anything

The problem is still there. You're not only ignoring it

but making it worse.

But dealing with it is so much harder than just continuing to run

[outer wave]

Feels like it could give a way for heretics to redeem themselves if talked out of chaos in this manner?

Which is interesting

[opaque coyote]

Maybe? But a lot of the tragedy is that they're too deep in.

There comes a point where you can't help them anymore.

[celest dome]

There is nothing to redeem

[opaque coyote]

And they're not aware that they have a problem.

Unfortunately it's... prevalent in real life as well.

[celest dome]

||Unless Sigmar call||

[opaque coyote]

A friend that you used to love, but too deep in their issues, and too toxic to be healthy.

[astral burrow]

Is that a baton in your pocket-

[opaque coyote]

That's Chaos finally getting their "prize".

[opaque coyote]

Either way. I just kinda want to explore the Chaos Gods more than just

"RAAAHHH I'M SO ANGRY!!@"

or

"i love drugs, sex, rock and roll, and other stuff"

Since at the end of the day, they're essentially... sin for lack of a better term.

[astral burrow]

Are chaos gods average teenagers

[opaque coyote]

Kind of.

Had the idea of a comedy where the Chaos Gods are represented as College Roommates

LMAO

[outer wave]

Same, chaos as a whole feels kinda stale? Like it's always the same themes and such

[opaque coyote]

Ironic given their name.

I also like Malice/'Malal'

as a concept

Because Chaos is also used to represent Entropy.

[outer wave]

Having more entities within the warp could be fun though

[opaque coyote]

So of course a representation of that makes sense

[opaque coyote]

True.

The Minor Warp Entity being born and seeing two gigantic green mushrooms fight in the background

While four people in the distance seem to be really interested in a board game...

Actually going back to the Chaos Roommates ideas

Gork and Mork are just jock brothers. The classic dudebro type of thing

Gets into wrestling matches with each other often.

The emperor is the annoying kid that is only there because they're the younger cousin of one of the roommates.

[opaque coyote]

Also the Emperor always presents himself as a little girl.

Especially when going against Nurgle's Garden.

Which always makes me think whether the Emperor was initally a woman.

And just changes between genders often. They're just male currently.

[outer wave]

I wonder how the average citizen would feel about their god presenting himself as a little girl

[astral burrow]

What

[opaque coyote]

When Emps burned down Nurgle's garden recently, they were a little girl

yes

I am serious

[outer wave]

"Uuoohhh cunny 😭 "

[opaque coyote]

...

[outer wave]

I'm sorry

[opaque coyote]

I am having PTSD flashbacks

thank you

[outer wave]

[opaque coyote]

But yeah, I imagine the Emperor as Genderfluid

They have switched genders just for a change of sorts.

[outer wave]

Hmm what was that

[opaque coyote]

attempting to post pics

ig

[outer wave]

Some account is spamming something

[opaque coyote]

didn't embed

[vagrant fox]

Some bot, second one I've seen

[astral burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/krennic-stare-gif-27349498

[opaque coyote]

But yeah the Emps could've started out as a woman, but we would never know.

And I doubt he cares either.

Probably changed genders and forms hundreds of times

[outer wave]

<@&735928989146939404> I think we got a bot spamming some pictures in the chats. Do you guys have any logs?

[opaque coyote]

thousands evem

40,000 gender switches

we finally found the 40k warhammer

...and it contains estrogen and testosterone pills/injections

[outer wave]

40k grams of estrogen

[opaque coyote]

Hey at least we know the emperor probably isn't transphobic or anything

He's just racist.

[outer wave]

I'd use xenophobic, considering different species being involved, but fair

[opaque coyote]

Actually do mutants count as a different race or a different species?

[astral burrow]

Which chat

[late osprey]

https://tenor.com/bcLhS.gif

[opaque coyote]

I need to know the proper terminology before I burn them

[outer wave]

All chats, they're a new account so the pictures don't make it through

[late osprey]

nope

[astral burrow]

Lol

How can u tell they are trying

[polar hill]

I think you're getting confused with the story of a girl surpassing Tzeentches Labyrinth. The Emperor was possessing Guilliman when he burned Nurgle's Garden

[late osprey]

"suffer not the mutant, the alien, the heretic"

[outer wave]

Yeah I deserve that one

[polar hill]

Also the little girl who beat Tzeentch hasn't been stated to be the Emperor or not

[plucky moth]

you'd be correct

[outer wave]

Awesome!

Thank ya for catching it

Makes me wonder what it was trying to spam out

[cerulean wagon]

got em thx

[outer wave]

❤️

[opaque coyote]

No wait, it wasn't the burning of nurgle's garden. It was the girl that helped gulliman against mortarion.

and even then it's ambigiuous

whoops

Considering that the daemons were afraid of her though, most assume that the little girl is the Emperor.

SoS aura also didn't bother her so she wasn't a standard psyker either.

[polar hill]

She was a Psyker who Guilliman was hesitant to admit was a Living Saint, though

[sly ivy]

Thank u thank u

[sly ivy]

They’re randomly occurring across the population, not related to shared genetic history and biogeography so… neither?

[sly ivy]

Catgirl emperor when

[sly ivy]

Abhumans would be most likely species or subspecies. Certainly incipient species since I don’t think there’s much breeding with base Homo sapiens?

Also a galactic empire would have so much genetic isolation that even human populations who look “normal” might have been genetically isolated for so long they’re basically species by the general lineage concept.

[opaque coyote]

Also the DAoT era also fucked up humanity's genetic code

which is partially why mutants are a thing

so

[sly ivy]

Yeah I like that part of the story

Interesting

[opaque coyote]

Honestly considering some of the conditions that you see on some planets

I genuinely believe that before they set out into space

Humanity made themselves hardier

Which allows them to survive shit like Catachan

Barely but still

So a 40k regular human is stronger than us now basically

[sly ivy]

Good take. I mean DAoT level tech would certainly include gene editing at a high level.

[opaque coyote]

Which inadvertently makes the 40k universe even scarier as a result

And also makes the Imperium somehow even more hypocritical

But tbf if the regular humans were all genetically edited then that is the new baseline

[opaque coyote]

Yeah generally I can imagine it's mostly improvements like

Being able to effectively use nutrients better

Slight strength boost but still mostly survival based

Not far from us at all to where it's still very much homo sapien

But it's similar to how me and a person 10000 years ago are different.

[sly ivy]

Ya but it’s still not quite what the Emperor is selling considering he touts his timeless classical take

[polar hill]

Genetic modification =/= mutation =/= Chaotic mutation. Something to bear in mind is that during the Age of Strife, humanity had to deal with Fallout-type mutants, irradiated monsters, that sorta deal. That's where the anti-mutant rhetoric comes from; it just so happens that Ogryn and other abhuman strains were discovered long after the fact and have to endure the stigma

And this wasn't just on Terra or even constrained to the AoS; even Mars had mutated monsters, and Baal when Sanguinius arrived

[opaque coyote]

I am aware that Chaos mutation, regular mutations, and deliberate genetic engineering are different.

But by 40k, even Space Marines are treated with a nervous glance by the Ecclesiarchy and Sisters of Battle. Since they consider them mutants.

I guess it's just a classic case of humans overcorrecting to the point of extremity ig

[polar hill]

That's moreso a Sisters thing than an Ecclesiarchy thing at large, since the Ministorum teaches that the Astartes are angels

[opaque coyote]

But yeah generally I think the reason why Chaotic/Regular mutations happened is partially due to humanity gene editing themselves in the first place.

Including the ability to survive some things that would normally kill them. They mutate as a sort of faulty adaptation instead of just dying from the radiation.

But at this point this is more headcanon.

It does explain how people can survive hellholes like Baal though.

[sly ivy]

It’s irl true that more radiation of certain kinds and more environmental toxins = higher mutation load

Mutation itself isn’t an adaptation but it can produce more variation on which selection can act.

The problem being that most mutations are deleterious

But still higher mutation load could theoretically lead to rapid evolution

At some point — maybe from the great work? — I recall something about how age of strife human genomes are “fragile”

That’s also possible if deleterious mutations to self-repair proteins have become fixed.

So it’s all got kind of a plausible basis

[raven stone]

I mean, if you look at 1st edition Horus Heresy Imperial Militia list
It is implied by one of the provenances that some DAoT colonies did their own gene editing

Then there is natural adaptation mutations

(I.e. Cadian purple eyes)

But THAT being said

I do feel (using Look Outside as reference) that Warp alone can cause rapid mutation.

Even on a “true” baseline human similar to our current era genetic structure.

[storm jungle]

It can ye, thats an official thing.

[storm jungle]

Mutations in 40k happen both from environmental stuff + the Warp, theres several reasons for it. People also dont really "survive" Baal, they just learn to live with it as we do with any environment, they still die a lot lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah by survive I mean

"Not getting wiped out completely"

[tough haven]

Heroic arbites stops filthy slaneeshi cultist

[languid meadow]

If there is an arbites chat I strive for this to be its first message

[plush mason]

that and the fateweaver bird meme thumbnail are some of their best work

[languid meadow]

https://youtu.be/1yjCsRgVT8c?si=BrRGg-KNx3U6y9TU this thumbnail is my fav

Is it shy who draws these?

Istg I think it's her

[plush mason]

i think so

i think its been said she makes them in some of the videos

[astral burrow]

Shy?

[languid meadow]

One of the members of adric

[astral burrow]

Explains nothing to me lmao

[languid meadow]

She doesn't speak but she's the one putting pictures up during the convo and stuff

[astral burrow]

If adric has an artist

Yeah they probably make the thumbnail

[languid meadow]

No it's a Warhammer/tabletop podcast

[astral burrow]

I know

If they have an artist member

They probably do make the thumbnails

[languid meadow]

I'm gonna rip you in half

[plush mason]

she was the one that started it according to Bricky

her and DK

[astral burrow]

Nice

[astral burrow]

No

[plush mason]

she is the little cherub over DK's character

[astral burrow]

Idk who DK is lol

[polar hill]

The annoying one with the cat-eared character

[sly ivy]

Cadians looking at ye w their ̶a̶u̶t̶i̶s̶t̶i̶c̶ warp eyes

[storm jungle]

Bruh do you know anything

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910400427277828147/1353491142833995787/image0.gif

[sly ivy]

Based ignorance

True imperial servant

[astral burrow]

I dont know random podcast channel members, no

[storm jungle]

You say "I dont know what that is" to everything

[lofty mason]

Don't wanna get too much into real religion, but some IRL religion will consider putting an image of their deity on clothes an act of blasphemy.
Would putting an image of the God Emperor on your tshirt be considered heresy or blasphemy?

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-fist-warhammer-gif-27420223

[languid meadow]

It would be blasphemy

[lofty mason]

I was wondering after seeing this on Reddit 😂

[languid meadow]

Also I'm pretty sure they way 40k uses "heretics" is wrong as well

[lofty mason]

Imagine an Arbites officer having that.

[languid meadow]

Since heretics would mean they're of the same religion just doing it "wrong" iirc

[lofty mason]

Lord Guilliman is not pleased

[sly ivy]

Wait really

Bc 40K religion is like Catholicism

Images of the Lord everywhere

John Blanche or someone said every skull is the Emperor

While also being death/mortality/humanity/eternal duty

[languid meadow]

I think it depends on the denomination

[storm jungle]

^

You'd definitely get side-eyed a lot

[languid meadow]

Trying to remember which one it was that had it either be blasphemy or idolatry

[storm jungle]

the Imperial Cult is very splintered too

[languid meadow]

Early Christians and some now wouldn't use the cross or an adorned one since it was considered idolatry

[storm jungle]

Yeah that too lol

[sly ivy]

Are you sure that’s true bc my institution has a bunch of super early art and artifacts including wearables, like ad 180-250, and it’s got all kinds of crosses

Earliest Christian stuff I mean

[storm jungle]

I dont really think this is that weird

religious people arent exactly unified in a lot of things they consider heretical lol

see almost every sub-branch of christianity

[sly ivy]

Yes but earliest Christianity was necessarily a bit more unified. Founder effect

[storm jungle]

Why the "a bit" bit

[sly ivy]

Plausible deniability

Academic refusal to say anything with conviction

[languid meadow]

It would be from place to place no one group is homogeneous but that's like over a hundred years after Jesus's death, archeological finds shows (not everywhere) that a lot of places just didn't use the cross

Instead used other symbols

The Horus apostasy

I would need to find it but a bunch of Hellenic symbols would be used in the early church

Like how a bunch of Celtic stuff was used in the isles before the Normans brought their flavour of Christianity

[vagrant fox]

I think there was some Christian iconoclasm in the 300s(?) but it took off in the 700s sometime
As far as I remember a yways

[languid meadow]

The history of religion is complicated and the institutions that spread it even more so

[vagrant fox]

I think the early Christians mostly defaced pagan images and statues though 🤔
Shit looks wild with those statues where the face is removed and replaced with crosses

[languid meadow]

The most famous piece of this happening

[storm jungle]

this feels like a Edd Ed Eddy injury

also trench crusade ahh design

[languid meadow]

I found it on the TC Reddit lmao

[vagrant fox]

me suckin on a lemon

[vagrant fox]

We should bring back this kind of religious battle royale

[languid meadow]

Splatoon with religious symbols

James Gunn has done the impossible

He's made guy Gardener cool

https://tenor.com/view/go-away-guy-gardner-green-lantern-superman-shoo-gif-5905228263010923543

[storm jungle]

Leave it to him to make the goofiest comic characters peak

[opaque coyote]

I really need to watch Gunn's Superman

[opaque coyote]

knowing guy gardener though. Gunn is just having him aura farm so that he can lose it in the sequel

[opaque coyote]

Honestly. This might be controversial to some.

But I love media that has it like

[polar hill]

Protestants mainly. The majority of them plainly don't understand the difference between idolatry (worshipping something or someone as if it or they were God) and veneration in the form of iconography. They don't understand that depictions of God aren't an act of worshipping the depiction itself as opposed to God Himself. Hope I put that in a way that makes sense

[opaque coyote]

"Yeah, all the gods in human history? They exist. And they're in constant competition with each other."

Percy Jackson is actually an example, although it's mostly the greek gods, it is implied that all the others exist asw.

And uh... it implies that ironically enough, the Christian God is considered to be a bit pretentious.

Because mainly of the part of the bible that says "No other God exists but me"

(paraphrased not exact despite the quotation marks)

Which, for Percy Jackson verse, implies that's more just YHWH saying

"They're all posers, I'm the real deal baby!"

Like a Gymbro claiming that his competition are using steroids.

[polar hill]

Where does that come up? I read the Greek, Roman and Egyptian books and I don't recall Christ ever being mentioned

Oh man I just remembered Percy meeting the Kane brother at the end of the Egypt books

[opaque coyote]

It's mentioned that Buddhism and Christianity also exist, but they aren't tackled for... obvious fucking reasons.

So it's more of an implication if you think further

Still funny to imagine YHWH as a gymbro though.

[polar hill]

Agree to disagree

[opaque coyote]

fair enough

...

[vagrant fox]

Papist propaganda smh
Correct statement about orthodox iconoclasm however

[opaque coyote]

although you think Jesus would lift?

[polar hill]

He carried the cross all the way to Golgotha despite starvation and having His back flayed to the bone - no-one lifts heavier than Him

[vagrant fox]

Post buff Korean Jesus

[storm jungle]

Korean Jesus has a ton of my respect

🫡

[lofty mason]

I still remember my naive ass thinking Mechanicus as one of the least evil faction 😭

[opaque coyote]

"I don't count meatbags as people"

• average Tech Priest

[sly ivy]

😬

[median star]

so like from a lore perspective say some of the rejects already had bionics while on the ship at the beginning of the game where they were getting shipped off to be executed or whatever would their bionics be taken out them before or after death

[polar hill]

Depends on the bionic

[sly ivy]

I maintain that on average spread out over all its members the ecclesiarchy is on the less evil side. Because honestly most of the random priests still try to ease people’s lives etc.

[opaque coyote]

Depends. But most likely afterwards, especially if it's something like an eye bionic.

[polar hill]

Or like, a leg

[opaque coyote]

Because it's easier to extract it from a dead body than an alive person fidgeting and screaming

[opaque coyote]

I think like everything, it's a mix.

Some of the priests are the type to genuinely be comforting. To try and make life easier.

And some of them are just in it because it's a position of power

[polar hill]

Cough
Goge
Cough

[opaque coyote]

and the Emperor really wants him to get a second Jacuzzi. Trust

[sly ivy]

But like… most?? admech people w free will have for instance been party to turning people into servitors etc.

[median star]

also are bone head implants able to be recycled

[sly ivy]

Macro scale idk they are doing things that maybe contribute to extending the survival of the species

Which is the greatest good

[polar hill]

Probably not tbh. I imagine each one has to be tuned differently for each recipient's unique neurology

[opaque coyote]

It's probably only shows the corrupt ones because grimdark (tm). But like everything about human natures.

It's simulatenously more and less than you think.

[opaque coyote]

Depends on whether you can factory reset it and tune it

But like VTEL said, most likely not since each brain is different.

It's also why Tech Priests fuck up the lobotomization process

and more important, it's why currently, neurology information is 70%

"We could be entirely wrong"

[languid meadow]

Return to REAL tradition and worship Canaanite gods.

[median star]

be cool have a story on an ogryn thats got some hand me hand me down implant given to him that still has memories of other ogryns and that some how strings together them either being maybe a bit more smarter or be funny have an ogryn w multi split personality disorder

[opaque coyote]

Remember that just 70 years ago, lobotomy was ACTUALLY considered a viable treatment for mental illnesses.

And that 400 years ago, a way to cure the Black Plague was literally bathing in you in piss

Like actual piss.

[languid meadow]

Yahweh the storm god graaaaaaah

[opaque coyote]

Of course "cure" with massive quotations

[median star]

yahweh ur mom

[languid meadow]

JFKs father had his sister lobotomized against their families wishes iirc

[opaque coyote]

But yes, Plague Doctors did unironically dunk people with the black plague in a tub filled with urine.

[sly ivy]

Damn son

[opaque coyote]

Probably why JFK Jr SHOULDN'T BE THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

Mf really said "Ah yes let's just send anybody with depression towards 'happy camps'"

[sly ivy]

No stop you must allow this to happen

He is literally the weirdest human on the planet

He must be allowed to spread his wings

[languid meadow]

He talks like an anti smoking ad

[opaque coyote]

and now Measles are in an all time high in 30 years.

[storm jungle]

I love old time doctors

"Hm. The patient has stopped breathing. What does this mean?"

[languid meadow]

The evil gas

[storm jungle]

up there with "Here, cocaine."

[languid meadow]

I love how miasma was so prevalent as a cause for sickness for centuries

"you know nothing John snow"

[opaque coyote]

It shows how Ancient People ironically enough aren't that stupid.

Primarily because we never got a tutorial. And if you see anybody trying to do something complicated with no instruction

It often goes extremely poorly.

[sly ivy]

Ok I think the dude has poo brain but my understanding is that the measles outbreak isn’t directly related to his actions

[opaque coyote]

And that it took a lot of trial and error to get the inventions we have now.

[median star]

sorry its gangreneurs well have to do a full body amputation

[storm jungle]

Lmao real

[storm jungle]

Always has been yeah

[opaque coyote]

The bro literally praised a doctor that decided to go to work with measles and treats patients.

[storm jungle]

about as far back as cavemen times tbh

"How do we know this thing is poisonous"

eats it

dies

[opaque coyote]

His stupidity, like a disease, is actually infectious.

[storm jungle]

"Okay dont touch it"

[opaque coyote]

Also parts of lots of religious texts as well

The Old Testament advised against eating shellfish since people didn't know how to prepare it properly at the time

[languid meadow]

Kind of crazy how recent bacteria theory is

[opaque coyote]

and just fucking died.

[median star]

germs arent real smh

[opaque coyote]

So I bet God or the people writing it, maybe both honestly.

Were like

"Okay so just... tell people to not eat it."

"Don't we have to explain?"

"Look we got much more left to go. Just say don't eat it because of some bullshit and let's mvoe on"

[opaque coyote]

Also a lot of diseases were politicized over the years.

And also not diseases.

[sly ivy]

And/or the worm’s

[opaque coyote]

Search up Pellegra.

It is wild.

[opaque coyote]

Definitely the worms.

Also he's kinda firing a lot of the CDC

[sly ivy]

Bruh that’s literally not true

It’s not the stupidity it’s the larval worms

Duh

[opaque coyote]

I swear if the USA survives this, the damage wll take years to fix.

I just don't understand Anti-Vax mfs

Like

I might understand if they just moved on from Varnation and it's the 1800s

But it's been 200 years

We know it works

Fully

Why are you saying it doesn't

[sly ivy]

It’s not forest for trees sensible.

There are sometimes bad side effects. Rare.

Benefits >> costs

[opaque coyote]

And then when their children die because of their decisions. They say it was God's decision.

Bitch God gave you the tools to prevent this.

[forest orbit]

I pray for the president (if its a good-ish man at least) that has to clean up after him, have fun mending dozens of broken or ruined economical ties for your entire presidency

[sly ivy]

Eh the US doesn’t really need to worry about that. Too dominant.

[forest orbit]

😐

No comment lol

[opaque coyote]

True. But I think it's equivalent to "Oranges are called Oranges in the english language"

[sly ivy]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

...yeah you see. The problem is that for those who are immunocompromised.

They definitely need to worry.

Stupidity is fine as long as it only affects you.

If it affects others, it's a problem.

[storm jungle]

Just stick your head in the ground and say its all gonna be okay.

🫡

[opaque coyote]

I fucking wish.

[storm jungle]

We here learned to do that for over 10 years

[opaque coyote]

I unironically wish I can do that.

[sly ivy]

True tbh. Benefits of being American

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651

[sly ivy]

U wouldn’t understand

[opaque coyote]

Instead I feel like I'm watching a fire and screaming at people to do something

and they're just like

"add more gasoline"

[storm jungle]

Definitely

[opaque coyote]

"Yeah it'll put out the fire!"

[storm jungle]

Nothing is gonna happen, dont worry about it.

guy literally did an entire diet insurrection and nothing came out of it

nobody cares at this point

[opaque coyote]

Maybe, but the problem is that for major events. Everybody thinks that until it does.

[sly ivy]

Based jadedness

[storm jungle]

Its not really jadedness though is it lol

[forest orbit]

Not really no

[opaque coyote]

I pray that I'm actually wrong and I'm being an overthinker on this.

[languid meadow]

Americans bragging about their institutions and freedoms just for it all to mean nothing LMAO

[forest orbit]

LMAO

[sly ivy]

We’re actually fine. Thx 4 concern tho

[forest orbit]

LA on fire

people being sent to literal prison death camps

[opaque coyote]

Maybe nothing catastrophic would happen.

But the damage definitely needs years to repair.

[forest orbit]

the copium is insane

[sly ivy]

U ok

[forest orbit]

El Salvador mean anything to you?

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/gavster-politics-discord-gif-19069918

[sly ivy]

Nice place if u stay in the right areas

[forest orbit]

Lmao

guessed as much

[opaque coyote]

Actually a thing btw. El Salvador prisons are considered to be borderline Concentration camps. There are also satellite pictures of possibly a pile of corpses. Which is...

probably how they make space.

[forest orbit]

Nah, fake news.

trust me bro

[opaque coyote]

Either way, if things actually do start happening. I'm definitely moving bruh

I'm lucky enough to be able to do that

[sly ivy]

They won’t

[forest orbit]

You should. We moved out years ago.

Best decision my dad and mom made

[median star]

nothing ever happens

[sly ivy]

Check back in 5 years

[sly ivy]

So true

[opaque coyote]

Kaggen. I hope you are right on this.

[sly ivy]

me too

(I didn’t say that)

[opaque coyote]

I unironically hope that a year from now, we'll be laughing.

[sly ivy]

Me too.

[forest orbit]

As long as you arent living in the US you will

which you are now

so best of luck

I admire people who can ignore all of this.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I have laughed at the news a lot.

It's only because otherwise I will cry.

[outer wave]

Am in Canada
At least the annexation threats have mostly died down

[forest orbit]

Pretty much.

[arctic talon]

The other option for me to move to is literally at threat of being invaded

[forest orbit]

America is not the bad guy tho

🫡

[arctic talon]

🇹🇼

No

[forest orbit]

China meanwhile

[arctic talon]

Lol

They’re both shit

[forest orbit]

They deserve each other, tbh

[arctic talon]

Taiwan does not deserve China smh

[sly ivy]

I’m Canadian born and I endorse annexation

[forest orbit]

well i say this, the tarriff thing kinda spoke for itself

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I think "bad guy" doesn't matter for countries at this point. A lot of country history in general is painted by blood.

[forest orbit]

so nvm lol

[forest orbit]

Speaking as a jewish person believe me I know lol

[outer wave]

I fuckin' dont; I like my forests not being cut down (nor on fire, but that's another issue) and not being under an orange man

[opaque coyote]

Honestly. I have considered moving to the UK.

Actually that's probably only slightly less shit. But they speak the same language and the healthcare would still be free so.

[languid meadow]

No thanks I like being a first world country with some problems and not a failing republic

[opaque coyote]

Eh.

[tough haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452219191580295168/1382511659695738880/wizardinatshirt_551ce38134db4eca8c4b1cc2d530d680.mp4?ex=684b6bd1&is=684a1a51&hm=9c5e59f5552a6fd6ab8764bf0e96c24f89d72c6a45fc80e0514f6ba7182f7323&

[outer wave]

I'm with Ciaphas

[tough haven]

I swear we arent all like that

[sly ivy]

I said what I said

[forest orbit]

Where are you getting the failed republic from

everything is fine

[sly ivy]

🍁

[forest orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[sly ivy]

🦅

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[tough haven]

To be fair I have never been in a GW store so maybe it does something to people

[opaque coyote]

Nah we're more like the weeping angels from Dr Who

[storm jungle]

Time to rewatch Andor again for therapy

[arctic talon]

https://preview.redd.it/nothing-ever-happens-v0-9usamljylo8e1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4bfa1099f7a965da4479972fae9e50590d53069

[outer wave]

I know most Americans aren't, but Christ your admin are obnoxious children

[sly ivy]

Lmaoooo

[opaque coyote]

Violence is an answer.

A rather easy one at that.

[forest orbit]

Always 🫡

[forest orbit]

"My people today. Yours tomorrow."

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[storm jungle]

Peak episode

speaks volumes

(even if its also a WW2 reference kinda)

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Trump did the typical dictator move of electing for loyalty instead of actual competency.

[sly ivy]

Starship troopers history and moral philosophy ass post

[opaque coyote]

Mosto f them never had experience

Or... scruples

[arctic talon]

I mean violence is often the answer historically

Lmao

[sly ivy]

Based

[outer wave]

Yeah, and I'm seeing the results with Fox newscasters being heads instead of just being Fox newscasters

[forest orbit]

Hes basically halfway dementia'd tbh

so it doesnt really make much of a difference lol

[opaque coyote]

Bro tried to run the government like a business.

The problem is that it's Donald Trump, who bankrupted 3 casinos.

[arctic talon]

I have 2 places I’d like to move to

Except one of them I don’t know the language well enough

[outer wave]

Art of the Deal™️

[languid meadow]

he stumbled while walking up the stairs to AFO and I saw so much dick riding from blue checkmarks

[opaque coyote]

I miss Joe Biden.

He might've been sleepy joe, but that's because I could actually sleep at night without worrying about the future.

[sly ivy]

I think this admin is ok. Everyone is freaking out too much.

I voted for sleepy joe etc etc

[arctic talon]

And the other is probably going to be invaded by China if the US implodes and Xi is still president supreme leader

[forest orbit]

Again. I wish I had this much copium.

[sly ivy]

I hope dearly it’s not copium

[outer wave]

But hey, at least those trans athletes are never invading our sports with their wokeness, right?

[forest orbit]

Biden wasnt a great guy either but id rather have him for 8 years over this lol

[sly ivy]

But you know

You might be right

So

….. yeah.

[forest orbit]

At least my family isnt staying in shitrael anymore

so ill take any Ws i can get

[opaque coyote]

Man I miss when US Presidents actually tried...

and also bombed people with drones-

[arctic talon]

Shas O’bama

[forest orbit]

Mmm. Weddings.

[outer wave]

I dunno, RFK.jr firing the vaccine panel tells me volumes of where they're going

[languid meadow]

THE BRAIN WORM

I don't think he's alive anymore

[opaque coyote]

Thank god I got all of my recent vaccinations.

[sly ivy]

Damn it

[languid meadow]

just a meat mech piloted via worm

[opaque coyote]

mf is a skin walker.

[arctic talon]

Are we gona start injecting coconut water into people

Like the Khmer

[opaque coyote]

Better than Bleach.

[arctic talon]

No

[outer wave]

Straight carrot juice and fish pills

[arctic talon]

Coconut water just fucking kills you

[opaque coyote]

Which is what donald trump actually suggested.

[arctic talon]

Lol

Do not inject fucking coconut water

[opaque coyote]

Either one just fucking kills you tbh.

[arctic talon]

Into your body

Now granted

Maybe it’s because the Khmer had absurdly shitty medical equipment

As well

But I wouldn’t risk it

Lol

It has like a 99% mortality rate

[opaque coyote]

I still find it funny that Pol Pot had Stalin and Mao look at each other and be like

"This guy is a crazy idiot"

[arctic talon]

As observed by their “scientists”

[opaque coyote]

also literally killed all of the doctors.

[arctic talon]

And by scientists

I mean 14 year olds

With scalpels

[outer wave]

I love that the admin saved money by cutting education and research, then spends most of it on a military parade for his birthday

[opaque coyote]

Actual North Korean level move.

Also he's threatening violence against any protestors.

[sly ivy]

Some of those research funds were going to stupid shit

But

[opaque coyote]

Including ones that are passive.

[dapper gyro]

Khmer rouge only knows to bully civilians.

[sly ivy]

Massive L cutting them on the whole

[arctic talon]

Just because something has a stupid name doesn’t actually mean it’s stupid

Tbh

[opaque coyote]

90% of it was for things like Cancer Research though

[arctic talon]

Some random ass stuff has tangible effects

Lol

[opaque coyote]

Vaccine research

[outer wave]

Is it the trans mice claim he made or legit research that was going to do some weirder things?

[opaque coyote]

Stem cells

[sly ivy]

I review for NSF and NIH

[arctic talon]

It was about cancer in mice or something iirc

[opaque coyote]

It was about cancer for fucks sake Trump.

[sly ivy]

There is more stupid shit than you realize

[arctic talon]

There is

[opaque coyote]

100%

[arctic talon]

But there’s also actual useful stuff lol

[sly ivy]

But

The vast majority

Vast vast

Vast vast

Is not stupid

[storm jungle]

Him being homophobic and literally just declaring a pseudo-war on queer people is enough to hate him tbh.

[arctic talon]

We already burn so much budget on the military

[opaque coyote]

"Hmm there's some trees that are looking wilted.

Time to burn down the whole forest!"

[storm jungle]

90% of his political ruination is like extra baggage

[opaque coyote]

I just want to fucking live a normal life man.

[storm jungle]

You're different. So you're a bad guy, sorry pal

[opaque coyote]

I just want to like men and women is that really that much of a sin??

[sly ivy]

Ya but we need that

[outer wave]

I already do, because it affects my friends down in the states. One of them has had their mom lose her job because of DOGE cuts

[dapper gyro]

Many of the researches need a lot of trial and error to be successful. They cost a lot.

[sly ivy]

Everything in the world is force

[storm jungle]

To what, bomb more villages to shit?

[sly ivy]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Checks out.

[arctic talon]

No, we burn a ton of Money on nothing in the US lol

[storm jungle]

Stick to your own country and stop ruining others

[arctic talon]

For the military

[opaque coyote]

Also the fact that DOGE never even tried to tackle the military. Who historically never passed an Audit for economic waste.

[tough haven]

Yeah I dont understand how we can have admin that perform actions that are disapproved of by the majority of americans, how can that even happen with popular vote

[arctic talon]

He won the popular vote

[tough haven]

Thats what I mean

[arctic talon]

But people voted way less