40k-lore-chat

[sharp pollen]

i want heavy stubber...

[crystal forum]

vet is getting more melee weapons already used by other classes and you will be happy

[median star]

also im wondering if the multi set bionic headpieces that share accross everyone but ogryn will work on arbites

[unique bronze]

Are they actually?

[crystal forum]

what

[rocky gale]

It's happening

https://tenor.com/view/twister-movie-heading-right-for-gif-5841340415077396555

[crystal forum]

there is no other reason for dark eldar being sold out

[rocky gale]

If you collect Drukhari and don't already have 3 Combat Patrols, then buy them as quickly as possible from whatever 3rd party store you can

This is one of the best Combat Patrols around we're losing

[crystal forum]

it will be updated to be worse

[rocky gale]

There's not really a way I could see them updating it to be better

Unless it's like a big release wave and all new units.

[crystal forum]

8 mobile units and 1 named character

i can't wait for the new HH box where they decided to make a new terminator variant instead of updating the already existing 2 models

and a new dreadnought because i guess 3 completely customizable variants wasn't enough

[winter vessel]

that fur cap looking kinda tempting

[sly ivy]

Hey losers what u nerds talkin about 2day

I've been @ the in-laws having to interact with humans and I'm having lore-chat withdrawal

[crystal forum]

the best way to start a 2 hour convo here is by posting an image from the warhammer community's newest article

[celest dome]

Speaking of which

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/sp0hlq5y/the-khorne-deathbringer-is-on-the-hunt-for-trophies-dont-lose-your-head/

I really feel like Khorne get the short stick toward what they do in term of themes

Both fantasy and 40k

[crystal forum]

GW still talking about the 2 resin models they released as if a whole combat box isn't coming in a few months

[queen laurel]

yeah trying to make savagery and brutality interesting is hard but you can definitely do it

[crystal forum]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zxczxmzi/rules-in-the-age-of-darkness-a-challenge-of-champions/

actually the article is about their new main character mechanic

also the mechanic sounds pretty cool

you can actually separate your big dicked guys from the front and make them fight their own duel without outside intervention

[celest dome]

Ye, but other Chaos cults often have thematics that are able to represent different new things

[crystal forum]

interestingly khan has one of the best dueling weapons

[celest dome]

Khorne ? Not so much

[crystal forum]

new stat for weapons there, duelist's edge

[queen laurel]

i mean it's very much hard to represent savagery and brutality of war other than you know savagery in brutality of war

[crystal forum]

i think that's a pretty cool thing to add to unique melee weapons

it makes them more worth taking

[queen laurel]

he is the most simple chaos god for a reason

He wants you to grab a weapon and kill in his name and that's it

[crystal forum]

some chapters will be better at dueling than other, like emperor's children

i think that's a nice touch

[celest dome]

Could have any of the following:

• Khornate Alchemist mixing bloods to create bombs and buffs/debuffs
• Shaman/Beastmasters with different animals (Blood Shark would be cool from Fantasy)

Just examples

[crystal forum]

i wonder if you can use lucius

wouldn't he be one of the best duelists

him beating a primarch in a duel would be way too much for his ego

[queen laurel]

i mean blades of khorne does have those nuances just well you know

you don't really see them often

[winter vessel]

"self-acclaimed" best duelist

[crystal forum]

i want to see an alt history where lucius kills ferrus instead of fulgrim with his special sword

it would be funny

[crystal forum]

his ego is bigger than a titan

i love him

especially before all the chaos magic that made him immortal

[queen laurel]

the flayed use runes that make them stronger

[winter vessel]

not even those from his legion consider him to be the best.

[crystal forum]

lucius is the kind of jerk character that i enjoy

he's just so self centered

[queen laurel]

and Claws of Karanak

[crystal forum]

he's not even actively malicious compared to other characters, he really does think he's the best

just a giant narcissist

[winter vessel]

when reading Horus Rising, Lucius is going on and on about naming his new style of sword fighting after himself, as he, Tarvitz, and the remaining EC are fighting for their damn life on planet Murder against the Megarachnids

[crystal forum]

he does kick ass with his sword during that fight

if i remember correctly i think he strikes the first kill too?

[sly ivy]

......... reading as a twenty-something-year-old: lol this is so over the top and Warhammer

[late osprey]

i like how his colleagues goof on him for being unscarred and after his corruption he takes it way too seriously

[winter vessel]

think so, since their bolter rounds couldn't penetrate the megarachnid's natural armored carapce. but my favorite exchange in that act was "the move should be called 'The Lucius'. don't you think? how fine does that sound?" and Tarvitz just gives him a response of "just fine" which is the astartes equivalent of "don't care didn't ask"

[crystal forum]

am i remembering wrong when i think that nobody wanted to spar with him

since he was way too intense

[rose thorn]

We already have a beast master tbf, it’s just not in any box available lol

[crystal forum]

i think loken does headbut him in the face though

[opaque coyote]

Hello chat

[winter vessel]

yes, and that eventually led to the downward spiral of him scarring himself because his face was no longer perfect

[crystal forum]

loken being a chad like usual

[winter vessel]

like my guy, if humility were a stat, it'd be a -100 for you

[crystal forum]

lucius embodies everything that was wrong with emperor's children perfectly

[sly ivy]

Reading a decade or two later: .... y is this such a realistic depiction of narcissists

I know this guy

[crystal forum]

we all know a lucius

[winter vessel]

I still place Eidolon over Lucius in ranking of 'irredeemable asshole'. i'm glad he's been reduced to a crippled punk bi*** after everything he did to his legion

[sly ivy]

that stings

[crystal forum]

eidolon is a petty boss

[sly ivy]

if u don't ur the lucius

[winter vessel]

i like how Fulgrim cuts Eddie's head off, has Fabius bring him back, gets upset that Eidolon is all wrong, and then criticizes Fabius for making it wrong.

[opaque coyote]

"Dude you literally cut off his head"

"NO. HE'S WRONG."

"....maybe I should've joined Tzeentch."

[crystal forum]

fabius is probably the chillest of the original EC gang since he's so focused on his own stuff

but i think people tend to forget that he's also sometimes comedically bad at what he does

i always read the primarch cloning story as a comedy

[winter vessel]

he's a mad doctor, but i give him respect for sticking it to the Prince of Pleasure and said "take two of these and call me in the morning" gives Slaanesh two birds

[opaque coyote]

Fabius might have committed war crimes by the dozen, commit horrific experiments that Mengele would blush at, etc.

But at least he won't... touch you.

[late osprey]

the funny thing is that the Emperor's Children were apparently like

the most loyal of the traitor legions, we just only really know of the traitors

[opaque coyote]

You're still gonna die horribly though.

[late osprey]

as in during their culling process they killed the most of their own

[opaque coyote]

[late osprey]

some 75% or something crazy

[crystal forum]

probably mostly on istvan 3

just like there's supposedly a bunch of loyal world eaters and you just go huhh??!

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I like to think that maybe the Minotaurs are actually Emperor's Children remnants.

But Iron Warrior remnants sounds more interesting.

[late osprey]

yeah WE were the other super-loyal legion

which is considerably weirder than Emperor's Children

[crystal forum]

it's very funny

since in the book they're still the crazed ax murderers when they're being shelled by their own legion

like what are they loyal to

[vagrant fox]

killing angron

[winter vessel]

I still believe these guys had the best chance of avoiding the fall to chaos were it not for a plethora of glory seeking, perfection, Fulgrim finding the Netherite sword, and Bequa Kynska's equivalent of a Travis Scott Concert

[opaque coyote]

They were too busy lifting and screaming angrily to be clued in on the plans.

Makes sense beneath the surface though. Angron was extremely loyal to his gladiators, before he got dragged away. Would make sense on some level for the World Eaters to also be loyal to the Imperium.

[crystal forum]

fulgrim's reasons for switching are pretty lame yeah

but essentially he's just a bitch who follows his big brother

he was supposedly very loyal to the emp already

unlike mortarion, angron and lorgar

[winter vessel]

Fulgrim: has a moment of clarity to stopping more bloodshed by killing Horus then and there EC: "my lord you forgot your sword" Fulgrim: SNIIIIIFFFF "LETS FUCKING GOOOO!"

[opaque coyote]

"Hey look, cool sword! Oh shiiiiIII"

Still better than Horus though.

I think Horus got the stupidest reason for inevitably turning to Chaos

"Stabbed by poop knife"

[crystal forum]

i think horus would have bodied his brother but it would have completely ruined his plans

[opaque coyote]

All the others got genuine greviances. Even Fulgrim

But Horus is just

"I'm turning evil because the knife is evil"

[crystal forum]

horus had grievances. that's what his visions when he was healing were about

[winter vessel]

i think Horse Lupercal fell too fast.

[crystal forum]

i think the problem is it had to happen quickly in the series

we didn't get to see him much before his fall

[sly ivy]

Ya that honestly needs to be redone

[crystal forum]

(which is why we need a book set during the late great crusades)

[winter vessel]

going back on the EC, I kinda resonate with Saul Tarvitz. He's "content" with the role he has in his legion, isn't the type to seek a life of vanity. He's satisfied.

[opaque coyote]

Bro fell off so fast, Soulja would blush

[astral burrow]

My test scores keep getting worse wtf is wrong with me

[crystal forum]

he does seem to act like a big brother to loken

[opaque coyote]

I know that feeling man.

[crystal forum]

loken is super happy to finally be in the in group

[astral burrow]

Today and yesterday I fucked up big

[opaque coyote]

But before I give any advice. What kind of test

Cause if it's a drug test, I can't help you.

[astral burrow]

Pretty much everything, it is in 12 days and my entire life depends on it no pressure

[opaque coyote]

Let me guess, College?

[winter vessel]

and Tarik, a man who could still keep humorous spirits. The one to embody an Astartes' camraderie in brotherhood. when he fell, so did that embodiment for all Astartes

[opaque coyote]

Or just school in general

[winter vessel]

and he also roasted eidolon

[crystal forum]

was that the old guy?

oh torgaddon

[opaque coyote]

Because being more specific about what's wrong helps a lot in my opinion

Instead of this seemingly overwhelming tide

[crystal forum]

tor dying was a pretty sad end to the istvan 3 events

[winter vessel]

‘How would you like this to go, Eidolon?’ Torgaddon inquired.

‘Would you, perhaps, like to go home with your head stuck up your arse?’

‘You are a base-born cur,’ Eidolon hissed.

‘Just so you know,’ replied Torgaddon, ‘you’ll have to do an awful lot better than that. I’m a base-born cur and proud of it. You know what that is?’

He pointed up at one of the stars above them.

‘A star?’ asked Eidolon, momentarily wrong-footed.

‘Yes, probably. I haven’t the faintest idea. The point is, I’m the designated commander of the Luna Wolves speartip, come to rescue your sorry backsides. I do this by warrant of the Warmaster himself. He’s up there, in one of those stars, and right now he thinks you’re a cretin. And he’ll tell Fulgrim so, next time he meets him.’

‘Do not speak my primarch’s name so irreverently, you bastard. Horus will—’

‘There you go again,’ Torgaddon sighed, pushing Eidolon away from him with a two handed shove to the lord’s breastplate.

‘He’s the Warmaster.’ Another shove. ‘The Warmaster. Your Warmaster. Show some cursed respect.’

Eidolon hesitated. ‘I, of course, recognise the majesty of the Warmaster.’

‘Do you? Do you, Eidolon? Well, that’s good, because I’m it. I’m his chosen instrument here. You’ll address me as if I were the Warmaster. You’ll show me some respect too! Warmaster Horus believes you’ve made some shit-awful mistakes in your prosecution of this theatre. How many brothers did you drop here? A company? How many left? Serghar? Head count?’
‘Thirty-nine live ones, Tarik,’ the vox answered. ‘There may be more. Lots of body piles to dig through.’
‘Thirty-nine. You were so hungry for glory you wasted more than half a company. If I was… Primarch Fulgrim, I’d have your head on a pole. The Warmaster may yet decide to do just that. So, Lord Eidolon, are we clear?

‘We…’ Eidolon replied slowly, ‘…are clear, captain.’
‘Perhaps you’d like to go and undertake a review of your forces?’ Torgaddon suggested. ‘The enemy will be back soon, I’m sure, and in greater numbers.’

Eidolon gazed venomously at Torgaddon for a few seconds and then replaced his helm. ‘I will not forget this insult, captain,’ he said.

‘Then it was worth the trip,’ Torgaddon replied, clamping on his own helmet.

Eidolon crunched away, calling to his scattered troops. Torgaddon turned and found Tarvitz looking at him.
‘What’s on your mind, Tarvitz?’ he asked.

I’ve been wanting to say that for a long time, Tarvitz wished to say.

Out loud, he said, ‘What do you need me to do?’

‘Gather up your squad and stand ready. When the shit comes down next, I’d like to know you’re with me.’

Tarvitz made the sign of the aquila across his chest. ‘You can count on it. How did you know where to drop?’
Torgaddon pointed at the calm sky. ‘We came in where the storm had gone out,’ he said.

[crystal forum]

i like that the book makes you actually root for them despite knowing they will inevitably die

[opaque coyote]

It's harder than me merely just saying this. But try to at least pinpoint what specifically. Is it your college classes? Driving lessons?

Because just saying tests is a bit obscure.

[sly ivy]

From before it sounded like late high school? Affecting college chances?

But there's nothing irreversible at that age/level. I know a number of people who had like horrible life circumstances — had to take care of a baby (theirs or a sibling's), abusive family, got involved in crime/drugs — and went to a smaller college or a community college then transferred.

Not a lot of people but... seven or eight?

[winter vessel]

this. this exchange is so good. Tarik just went "listen here you burnt toast faced athlete's foot looking mutha fucka. I speak with the voice of the warmaster, and you will show respect. you wasted the lives of your own men to seek glory. now we do it the Luna Wolves way"

[opaque coyote]

Honestly being in a super high college isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Community college is still good.

And you can transfer to a four year and save some of the costs

[sly ivy]

I agree with this to an extent, though sometimes there are intangibles at a top college.

Also yes re transfer

That is honestly a very good idea, often.

Also top colleges usually have exceedingly generous financial aid.

Like the ivies, if your family income is <75,000 it's free

[opaque coyote]

True. Not saying that the top colleges aren't better.

It's just that the gap purely in learning quality is smaller than you think.

[crystal forum]

luna wolves were pretty cool with their pragmatism yeah

im trying to find the name of the old guy luna wolf

i liked him

[sly ivy]

Below 150k it's at most like 10k per year

[sly ivy]

I agree fully

Yes

[crystal forum]

he was like a grandpa who sometimes gave loken good advice

[opaque coyote]

Ivy colleges have a bunch of other shit attached to them that makes it worth it though

[astral burrow]

Everything single thing ever from high school so I can finally get into a uni

[sly ivy]

I really love top state schools too.

[winter vessel]

the remembrancer, Kyril Sindermann?

[sly ivy]

I did my master's at UT and it was amazing

So much going on

So tied in with tech and engineering etc etc

[crystal forum]

no the old luna wolf who escorted them i think. the guy who would do the old style salute because he was that old

and he was kinda senile

[astral burrow]

I already wasted 3 years any more and I will be too depressed to do anything, I am not even aiming for a super high college just an average uni that isn't dogshit and has computer major

They are all pretty much free anyway, government schools, your only issue is a dorm

[sly ivy]

Do you have academic guidance counselors at your school?

[astral burrow]

I am not in school

[opaque coyote]

Community?

[astral burrow]

School ended 3 years ago

I am myself, at home

Been studying the whole year

[crystal forum]

@winter vessel iacton qruze

[opaque coyote]

So what's the test?

[crystal forum]

the half heard

[astral burrow]

To enter a uni

[winter vessel]

oh forgot about him

[astral burrow]

An exam I am taking for the third time

[opaque coyote]

Judging by some of the colleges being free, it doesn't sound like America

[astral burrow]

It doesn't have to be

[sly ivy]

Uni

It's uk

surely

[astral burrow]

You know UK and US aren't the only countries that exist right?

Like, 80% of the world call it uni

I will just sleep

[sly ivy]

o sorry I thought that was one of those annoying brit things like uh cheers

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, consider entering a community.

Talk with a counselor. Usually the Uni you're trying to enter.

Unless if it's like far away then email one for advice

[sly ivy]

Yes re counselor

[crystal forum]

iacton qruze always interested me since he's basically proof that astartes age yet he's younger than a bunch of 40k era characters

[astral burrow]

You can't enter ANY UNI if you dont do well on that exam

Any uni that isn't a waste of time

And has a computer major

[sly ivy]

Devil's advocate what are the waste of time ones

[astral burrow]

Unis that are on the other side of country, the really shitty parts of the country that you would rather die than live in

[opaque coyote]

Try tutoring. And if you fail.

Cry about it. Literally. Have a big cry. Don't do anything rash that would harm yourself. But let your emotions out.

And again, if a community college exists, try it out. It usually isn't as shitty as you think it is.

[astral burrow]

And I don't wanna spend my uni years in hell

[sly ivy]

Not to sound condescending but I bet those colleges have really dedicated teachers (some)

[astral burrow]

I GOT 12 DAYS

There is no "community college" pretty much all of them are free, none of them you can just go in and hand over a form and get in, you do the exam, you enter 22 unis and majors, you get one of them, hopefully the one you wanted

[crystal forum]

qruze's wiki page is a perfect example of how terrible the fandom one is

[astral burrow]

If you get none, fuck you, wait another year retake it

[opaque coyote]

Not the best amount of time for sure, but you probably should study up during those days and pray.

If you get a shit university. Unfortunately, you're gonna have to accept it. I know this sounds rather blunt, but some education for your major is better than zero.

[astral burrow]

I would rather die, I left the last one because it sucked

[sly ivy]

Yeah also any place with students and professors isn't going to be hell.

[astral burrow]

I am not gonna waste my uni years in a dogshit place

[sly ivy]

Maybe it was the wrong fit, that one — what was wrong with it?

[astral burrow]

I am 3 years already

[astral burrow]

I didn't like it

The city was pretty much completely empty

The people sucked

Pretty much no reason to stay

[crystal forum]

the whole page is just like this. a million paragraph spacings for no reason

[opaque coyote]

Ironically got a similar experience.

Try your best, but also lower your standards. Make sure to choose a college that at least doesn't have an empty city. Since I know that fucking sucks.

I'm sorry to say this, but sometimes you can do nothing but accept the shitty hand you got.

[astral burrow]

My standards are already as low as I am willing to go

I been doing fine, but my mock tests last 3 days have been terrible

[crystal forum]

whoever wrote this spent more time copying the book than they would have if they just took the information and compacted it into a couple of paragraphs

[astral burrow]

Very discouraging

[opaque coyote]

I know this is gonna sound antithetical but it does help in my opinion. Even with the short time you have left.

Take a day's worth of break.

Consistent and constant bashing your head against a wall does no good

And is probably why you're doing worse

[sly ivy]

This period does not determine the course of your life. Unless you kill someone it's virtually impossible to fuck it up that bad.

[opaque coyote]

Do something that you consider relaxing. Get a good night's sleep.

And then the next day, continue.

[sly ivy]

It's impressive that you keep trying and I think that tenacity will pay off.

Also the math thing — clearly not a lack of brainpower.

[opaque coyote]

Math. God I hate math

I think I failed out of Calculus one and two and had to repeat them.

[crystal forum]

why does every cool HH character have to become a proto grey knight

[sly ivy]

See you'll beat out the rest of us dumb dumbs

[opaque coyote]

I think I'm repeating two next semester specifically

@astral burrow You're probably better than me in the mathematics front. God knows I wouldn't survive somewhere like Korea or China (despite my Chinese ethnicity)

I didn't get the +5 racial bonus I feel cheated

If something equivalent to a trade school exists. You can also consider that.

Plumbing, being an electrician, etc. those are all highly respectable fields that earn a good amount

[astral burrow]

I am was getting 100/120 and 60/80 which is... good enough

But dropped to 90 lately I hate it

[astral burrow]

I did like 2 days ago

[arctic talon]

The racial bonus comes from your parents beating it into you

[astral burrow]

But might take another one...

Gotta go to my family doctor anyway

[arctic talon]

[crystal forum]

the beatings will continue until grade improves

[arctic talon]

Logic back in the day btw

Lol

[astral burrow]

I need a good degree from a reputable place to get the fuck out of where I live so, no

[arctic talon]

They’d beat anyone who didn’t get a good enough grade on exams

In school

[crystal forum]

i'd rather not have children than harm one

[astral burrow]

Not just this one, the past 4 years I spent messing up the same exam

And barely studying

[crystal forum]

gotta let kids know that school is dumb af and there's more to life than getting a perfect grade

[opaque coyote]

You could do some light reviewing. Just to keep it in your mind.

[opaque coyote]

I actually did. Unfortunately.

It didn't help. If anything it kinda made it worse.

They stopped and funnily enough my grades improved.

Because apparently spanking your kid for doing not that well is a % chance on whether they'll improve or not

At best

[arctic talon]

Who said spanking

[opaque coyote]

Fair

Definitely didn't get a tiger mom level one

Thank fucking god

[crystal forum]

what kind

the fun kind or the bad kind

[sly ivy]

Obligatory

[opaque coyote]

I don't know why it took this long for people to realize that beating your kids might be bad

Even then definitely not all people

[crystal forum]

vomit inducing pre-2016 meme format

[sly ivy]

I prefer "classic"

[opaque coyote]

Literally is the color of vomit as well.

I do remember that though

[crystal forum]

more like millenial

[opaque coyote]

Mf are you 40

[crystal forum]

since idk anybody else who finds them funny

[sly ivy]

No

[opaque coyote]

I once found a couple of rage comics funny

Like old ones

Not the ones in 2018+ that go into the surreal

[opaque coyote]

50

Almost 21 myself. 7 days from now I can legally drink here in America

Finally I can drown my sorrows

[sly ivy]

Ah yes I'm sure you haven't touched a drop

[sly ivy]

Also no but in the opposite direction

[crystal forum]

the american drinking paradox

[opaque coyote]

Jokes aside, never liked alcohol. The piss taste just makes it unpleasant to me.

Then again I've only had like

[sly ivy]

Shit literally tastes bad

[opaque coyote]

Beer

[sly ivy]

Still drowned my 20s in it

[opaque coyote]

And like one can at most

Never actually got drunk

Or even tipsy funnily enough

I was just uninterested

[crystal forum]

"i don't drink alcohol because of the taste"

-every future alcoholic

[opaque coyote]

I know alcoholic soda is a thing

And lemonade

[sly ivy]

The only good thing about getting drunk is the agape

I like people in general

drink makes me love people

[crystal forum]

it sadly does not work the other way around

[opaque coyote]

Never got drunk so idk how I'll act.

[sly ivy]

😐

[opaque coyote]

Never really liked parties either so I can actually count how many I've been to. Including like little kid ones

I never really threw birthday parties either

THE CAKE IS ALL MINE

MIIINNNEEE

Tbf I had like one friend in elementary and two in middle school

[winter vessel]

was always under the radar in socializing in high school, so never really had the sense of being pressured into attending a party

[opaque coyote]

Ayyy

[rocky gale]

My suggestion for the new Drukhari combat patrol, Succubus, Wych squad, 2 venoms and 6 or 9 reavers.

[rose thorn]

Just learned that the lady of vines is pretty big

I thought she was like a foot hero

[crystal forum]

parties are only good for hooking up. idk the point of them

it's where terrified people go to feel like they don't have anxiety

[opaque coyote]

My bestie did throw a birthday party during the waning hours of COVID.

Was genuinely fun

[opaque coyote]

But that's probably because all of my friends are already there

So

And there nobody I didn't know

And that was genuinely a good time

[sly ivy]

Ok this is a significant function but what about the overall party glow

Like if it's people you run into again you've seen them all in vaguely compromising positions and it makes you more natural/familiar with them when not drunk

[opaque coyote]

Jokes aside. Parties cause me anxiety

I fucking hate them.

[arctic talon]

Yes Mortarion we see the fit

[winter vessel]

its also my stance when making interaction with people, there will be close "acquaintances" yes. but i follow the category 8 of Ron Swanson's pyramid of Greatness: Friends-One to three is sufficient.

[opaque coyote]

At least when there's nobody I know

Or even just a group

I actually went to one high school party

I left early

I literally just talked with friends

I have no idea why people find them fun

[crystal forum]

i'm gay so compromising position probably has a different meaning

[sly ivy]

Or even if not you feel like maybe you connected at some weird visceral level with people

Like uh

[opaque coyote]

APE TOGETHER STRONG

[sly ivy]

Finishing a really difficult Darktide run lmao

[opaque coyote]

Nah it's exactly the same meaning there

[crystal forum]

also you won't stay in contact with the vast majority of people you meet at parties. they're terrible places to make friends

[sly ivy]

Except it smells like BO and jungle juice and you're just gyrating instead of dodging

Otherwise pretty much the same as Havoc 40

[opaque coyote]

Again. Usually only go if my friends are already there.

And since most of my friends are introverted at least

[winter vessel]

my group of friends are soley comprised of Introverts, that was one of three unifying factors that made our group.

[opaque coyote]

...

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

Ayyy

My bestie is into weed now though.

Because college

[sly ivy]

And knowing there are at least 3 randos and a few bartenders out there who know your deepest secrets

[opaque coyote]

Oh hell nah

[sly ivy]

Whatever those are since you were too drunk to remember

[crystal forum]

going to parties with friends only weaken me. they give me a false impression of a safe place i can go and that ends up with me not going to meet new people at all

[opaque coyote]

That's what I fear

[crystal forum]

you gotta dive head first

[opaque coyote]

Jokes on you. I never voluntarily meet new people. I'm fucking terrified

I love anxiety

[winter vessel]

my closest of the three is doing Missionary work in Japan. the 2nd is working in the tile flooring business, and the third is working on his bachelor's

[crystal forum]

you'd be surprised how many people in the world you share stuff with

[astral burrow]

That's more than me

[crystal forum]

i only started going out 2 years ago. it really does not take as much effort as it looks

[sly ivy]

Good collection damn

[crystal forum]

and there's no rush lol young adults suck

[sly ivy]

Diversified portfolio

Don't fall out of touch you'll regret it for the rest of your life.

[opaque coyote]

All of my friends are in college.

My bestie is fun.

One of them is basically a hello kitty girl. Except without the BPD.

She just really likes girly shit

For some reason

[crystal forum]

friends stop talking to eachother. it's part of life

[sly ivy]

Imagine thinking there could be a girl without BPD

[opaque coyote]

Unfortunately true, but also keep the ones you have and try not to let that happen

Accept it if it does

But try not to

It's like death.

Yeah it'll probably happen eventually. But try not to die anyways

[winter vessel]

yeah, it'll be a challenge once i ship out for basic training. I'll eventually make new "friends" and a military brotherhood for the next six years. so long as the folks i knew since middle school stay on the path of righteousness, they'll be in good hands in my absence

[crystal forum]

i've just accepted that my friend group is an ever changing roster of people who fluctuate in and out of my life. much better than stressing about all the people who have stuff going on in life and dont have time for me anymore

[astral burrow]

My only friends are from random discord servers, easy

[opaque coyote]

I'm frankly pretty hands off

Although I do reach out when I want to

But generally, we don't really leave each other out

I know I might lose contact over time

But I hope that won't happen.

[crystal forum]

are these people online friends or people you can meet

[opaque coyote]

Both

We chat online and offline

[crystal forum]

i've noticed that a lot of people will settle with purely online friend circles. that shit aint enough for me anymore

[sly ivy]

What branch

[opaque coyote]

Purely online isn't enough

Generally

[crystal forum]

depends where you live

things are a lot harder outside large cities

or north america

[opaque coyote]

Live in the suburbs so

Yeah

[crystal forum]

californian suburbs

[winter vessel]

give you a hint for the slogan. "__ STRONG!"

[crystal forum]

try a state like kansas

i fucking hate the place where i live so it's hard to find relatable people for example

[astral burrow]

Not if everyone around you is a piece of garbage

[crystal forum]

i also have a rule where if i have to engage the conversation many times in a row then i just move on from somebody

im real tired of wasting my social energy on black holes

[sly ivy]

Yeah boyy I was never in but my best elementary school buddy is army

[crystal forum]

i thought you were indian

[sly ivy]

Wat

Genetically yeah but I grew up in Ohio and Kansas

[crystal forum]

the one time i mentionned sikhs you knew what that was so i assumed

[sly ivy]

Second gen

[crystal forum]

HA

called it

[sly ivy]

I’m the biggest zeal of the covvert American jingo you’ll meet

Convert

[storm jungle]

Explains a lot.

[astral burrow]

Hi dilara

[crystal forum]

part indian, part rural american

[sly ivy]

My family wasn’t like rich city Brahmins we were from the fucking village

Nothing in India dirt poor

Then Canada and the US respectively for my mom and dad gave em a chance in a meritocracy

[winter vessel]

been a wish of mine since i was 4. Leaving in September to Fort Benning, Georgia. 11B Infantry with an option 40 contract. So I'm eligible for ONE shot at Ranger Selection immediately. I got 3 months to prepare and live out what remainder of a life i had since grade school before cutting that off.

[sly ivy]

And they got hella educated and now my family is all doing great

so I love America haha

[crystal forum]

name every state

[sly ivy]

Ahh that’s stressful

[sly ivy]

Uhhhh Nova Scotia

[crystal forum]

death

trailer park boys are ours damn it

[sly ivy]

Suburban tbh lmao

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-lahey-trailer-park-boys-time-lil-drinkiepoo-gif-14945448166199689188

[sly ivy]

Anyway that’s the tldr of how colonialism and capitalism was the best thing that ever happened to my fam hahahaha

My dad was literally starving to death. I mean quite literally. Now he’s a PhD biochemist (retired). Mom became a lawyer.

[crystal forum]

after escaping the colonized country

[sly ivy]

It was British immigration regs that allowed easy migration to Canada

This is the thing. Poor people in villages fared no better — worse — in precolonial India right

We had no chance at social mobility ever

yeah I’m glad it’s independent now but the whole thing is complicated

[crystal forum]

let me guess, ontario

[sly ivy]

Hahahaha Vancouver for one side

[crystal forum]

odd

[sly ivy]

Ontario for the other. London and Toronto

[late osprey]

there's a somewhat similar story in the european immigration waves, although not as extreme since no caste system and such

[opaque coyote]

My dad and mom lived in communist China.

Wasn't a very good place to say the least, but my Dad actually got forward momentum due to the reforms and got an electrical engineering degree.

My mom however had to move to Japan to properly become a doctor.

[late osprey]

but social mobility is a common theme for first gens

[winter vessel]

I go for my parents, pushing 60 and still working a 9 to 5 to stay "afloat". I want them to live a life of comfort for the next 20 and hopefully 30 years or so. Now i was content to just be in Infantry and go Airborne. but Ol'Pop wanted me to aim higher if the opportunity presented itself. I.E, the Rangers

[sly ivy]

Yah like the Brahmins certainly lost some authority with colonization — though it wasn’t the British initially. It was the Mughals

[late osprey]

my own family came over for those reasons

[crystal forum]

you're shooting yourself in the foot if you come to canada with a degree, thats the funny part

[sly ivy]

Comm China kind of a different beast. Those exams. Some meritocracy

[crystal forum]

your degree will be worthless

[opaque coyote]

I still think the saddest part about India is that despite all their attempts at reform. The classism still persists, especially culturally.

[sly ivy]

But dirty yokel farmer Jat Sikhs like us?

Who cares who’s in charge

Same shit different name

[opaque coyote]

Those poor ""untouchable"" bastards.

Although I have a weird question that is too weird and inappropriate to say here so I won't

[crystal forum]

there was never any real attempt to reform india

the whole exchange of power was performative

[sly ivy]

Also pre Mughals and Brits India was a bunch of petty kingdoms not a unified nation so depends on what Brahmins where.

[winter vessel]

apparently when my dad traveled there in his youth the "bathroom" in a restaurant was the back of the building where a broken feeding trough was angled near a grate.

[opaque coyote]

Ew

[sly ivy]

People bleat about some ancient Gupta empire that was just part of the subcontinent and lasted for about 4 days

But the truth is India wasn’t a thing.

[opaque coyote]

...so the same about people yelling about the Confederacy.

[sly ivy]

And that’s part of the problem I think too

[opaque coyote]

Despite the fact that it lasted for like 7 years

[crystal forum]

Canada apparently has the most educated population in the world but that's straight because so many immigrants here have degrees from their original countries that's worth less than toilet paper

[winter vessel]

confederacy mentioned

[sly ivy]

Yes lmao

[sly ivy]

Yes.

Yes I really think Canada has gotten all kinds of fucked up bc of good intentions

[crystal forum]

i remember my childhood friend's dad having to redo his entire university path just to get a degree

he had a masters before coming here

[sly ivy]

Idk what is going on up there

[opaque coyote]

I actually liked researching about the Civil War.

The only reason why the Confederacy actually managed to put up a good fight is because Lincoln's generals for a while were basically not only nepobabies but also extremely stupid even for nepobabies.

[sly ivy]

My grandparents went there to do hard labor. Grandpa worked in a lumber mill on Vancouver island.

Mom and aunts/uncles went to Canadian universities.

[rocky gale]

Russian Civil War > US Civil War

[crystal forum]

i've spoken to many people who had degrees from other countries when i was working manual jobs. guys who had bachelors in business doing simple tasks

[winter vessel]

My sister's knowledge of the Civil War goes about as far as the entire film length of 1939 Gone With The Wind

[opaque coyote]

The even funnier part is that when the Union finally got a decent general. He was also a severe alcoholic.

He was criticized for that a lot but Lincoln was like

"IF HE WORKS WELL WHILE DRUNK SEND HIM MORE ALCOHOL."

[crystal forum]

it makes canada look better, it makes universities happy, it makes engineer associations happy to be exclusive and most of all it fills the demand for low skill labor

guy with a masters and 10 years of experience working at mcdonald

[opaque coyote]

Saddest part honestly.

I remember a boomer comic, but one that was... actually kinda funny (and sad) to me.

It was basically a McDonald's worker serving a customer and saying "Do you want somebody with a Medical Degree or an Electrical Engineer to serve you today?"

[crystal forum]

romans treated native brits as wild savages too when they visited. colonizers love painting natives as lower life forms 🤷

[sly ivy]

I hope it all happens for you.

[outer wave]

I'm just happy that my parents just had enough connections for me to pivot into medical lab technology rather than working at Thriftys or where ever for how many more years

[sly ivy]

Brits were way better than Mughals. Independence is better than either obv

[opaque coyote]

Caesar's descriptions of the native Brits are absolutely fucking funny. Probably exaggerated a lot with lies. But also it is really fucking funny.

[sly ivy]

But the existence of a unified India to be independent depends on having been colonized so

The world is complicated

[crystal forum]

again, according to the colonizers

[sly ivy]

I’ve said this before but my grandpa (who fought for independence) used to say

“I hate the British. Damn the British”

“Thank god for the British”

[crystal forum]

based

cringe

[sly ivy]

Like I said. Complicated.

[crystal forum]

oh i get it don't worry

indians will kiss up to brits while also hating them

it's very funny

[sly ivy]

Anyway this chat is great I would have a drink with all you guys

And we can tie Clad up and read him Legion

[opaque coyote]

Caesar, in writing home, said of the Britons, " They are the most ignorant people I ever conquered. They cannot be taught music." Cicero, writing to his friend Atticus, advised him not to buy slaves from England, " because," said he, " they cannot be taught to read, and are the ugliest and most stupid race I ever saw." I am sorry that Mr. Lincoln came from such a low origin ; but he is not to blame. I only find fault with him for making mouths at me.

[sly ivy]

And also we can zoom Eternal in

[rocky gale]

Like Russian Civil War you look at the Whites and it's like yea they've got a general of German descent who believes he's been chosen by god to be the next Tsar, a Cossack who planned a coup against his own forces in the middle of a civil war and a Baltic German who thinks he's Genghis Khan reborn and the mortal incarnation of the God of War.

[crystal forum]

also the most bat shit insane political takes i've heard were from indian middle class immigrants

[opaque coyote]

Despite this quote being funny there's absolutely zero evidence that Caesar actually said that.

[opaque coyote]

Same. Along with really right wing Hispanics for some reason.

[crystal forum]

american latinos are deep fried with conservative bullshit that's understandable

[opaque coyote]

Like bro, you're an immigrant. Trump is targeting you. He has had several instances of outright calling Hispanics degenerates. Why are you supporting him??

[sly ivy]

I can speak to that in general.

Immigrants often feel they've worked their way up

They are against affirmative action and open borders etc.

Also the identity politics stuff feels insulting and infantilizing

[crystal forum]

conservatives managed to make it so hard working blue collar people think they're the working man's party. it's that simple

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think that's why my Dad is

Kind of a dumbass politically.

He feels like he earned it and that the illegal immigrants didn't

And tbf he did work from communist China in the 1970s to going to America

[sly ivy]

I think there is some truth to that take.

[opaque coyote]

With a PHd.

[sly ivy]

Idk whether it's worth the insanity that is the Trump admin

[opaque coyote]

Some yes. But in general, Trump was and is not the way to go in solving that.

[sly ivy]

But honestly I've become radicalized by being in academia where it's really crazy on the other end

[crystal forum]

solve all of life's problems by shooting yourself in the foot

[sly ivy]

So I'm too much of a contrarian

[sly ivy]

yeahhhhhhhhh

[opaque coyote]

There is no easy way to solve illegal immigrants

[sly ivy]

hhhhhh

hhh

[crystal forum]

sometimes a political topic is only "important" because people keep bringing it up. don't mistake prevalence with importance

[opaque coyote]

But Trump is basically the worst option for most of the spectrum.

With the only exception being those people that just want every race that isn't white to be lynched

[outer wave]

Tbf, there's no easy solution to most of our problems in today's current events, from war to economy to housing to job wages to food

[opaque coyote]

Yeah. Like most fascist leaders. Trump promised an easy solution.

Surprisingly enough, it isn't that easy, and unlike most fascist leaders. He doesn't even have the illusion of it working

[hallow saddle]

britain mentioned 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[crystal forum]

now my country is trying to pass legislature to secure the borders as if trump's made up fentanyl is important enough to deny my right to privacy

[opaque coyote]

He's just fucking failing horribly

[outer wave]

Yeah, I'm surprised on how much shit is breaking at the seams in front of us tbh

[winter vessel]

I pity all who seek to find a better life coming to the US. but there are rules, without them, we'd only hasten anarchy. There are no exception for illegals

[outer wave]

You'd think he'd hide it better

[winter vessel]

And its bad for the current admin because he has to clean up a mess that was left behind

[crystal forum]

and those rules have been enforced for a loooong time

[sly ivy]

I don’t think he gives a flying fuck about race honestly

[opaque coyote]

Generally I am fairly neutral about illegal immigrants.

But generally, I don't think sending them to fucking El Salvador is the best choice.

Even if they're NOT FROM EL SALVADOR

[winter vessel]

well, till 2020 that is

[sly ivy]

Yes.

[opaque coyote]

The funniest part is that Biden actually did more deportations than Trump did in his first term

[crystal forum]

what makes you think this

[opaque coyote]

[sly ivy]

Poor Biden ugh

He had his stuff but he is a good man

[opaque coyote]

Definitely not. It is a manipulation tool

I miss when Watergate was the worst case of corruption in the USA

[crystal forum]

you should see what he's up to rn

[sly ivy]

I don’t hate everyone in / everything about the current admin. Either way I don’t think it’s the end of America as the sole hyperpower

[opaque coyote]

Nah the current admin fucking sucks.

Most of Trump's choices are literally past conspiracy theorists and right wing grifters

[winter vessel]

ill take it over what might've been the outcome of last year's election

[hallow saddle]

i hate literally everyone in the current US admin (personal opinion)

[opaque coyote]

JFK. Jr is probably the worst. Single handedly made Measles numbers a record high in 30 years!

[crystal forum]

americans have a really powerful ability to downplay real life events

[hallow saddle]

the worst is stephen miller

[outer wave]

I dunno, a good chunk of the admin are either Fox Newscasters (allegedly), grifters and con artists (The Health head right now and Dr Oz) or Russian sympathizers like Hegdseth or whoever

[forest orbit]

Its a lot more funnier to keep up with the events through the news most of the time tbh

[sly ivy]

Si

[forest orbit]

then you see them go "its not that big of a deal guys please"

[celest dome]

Or fill more than one choices

[outer wave]

True! Or just bloody stupid and all of the above

[forest orbit]

should be "None of the above"

[crystal forum]

i've lost the ability to laugh about it. my eyes just glaze over

[forest orbit]

It got extremely samey after the first few months.

the amount of braindead things the administration does is kind of incredible honestly

[crystal forum]

whatever pete hegseth is doing is what gets me a laugh usually

he is so comedically incompetent

[forest orbit]

I applaud anyone who still has faith in that oompa loompa or any of his cronies so beats me.

[winter vessel]

they are not, by all means, the best. But so long as their actions are those shared by the Good Lord, then i trust them. I don't put my faith in the one in the chair, but the one above them

[sly ivy]

Ok I am certain we are leagues apart politically but I can’t argue w this lmao

[opaque coyote]

I think the funniest thing that ever happened is that while I talked with my dad. He praised Rubio.

And then like two hours later he made the announcement that Rubio is revoking all Chinese student VISAs and his face basically became crestfallen.

I basically laughed because otherwise I would cry.

[forest orbit]

[sly ivy]

(Also prob not leagues apart on many specifics)

[forest orbit]

At the end of the day its the peoples' choice

(not that it means much lol)

[winter vessel]

and truth be told, my desire since i was 4 years, as mentioned previously, hinged on the outcome of the election last year

[crystal forum]

i hope you understand one day that you're being used

[opaque coyote]

...ignore the fact that the polls might've been tampered with by Elon

[forest orbit]

What election isnt without rigging.

[opaque coyote]

Super Earth AI sounding ahh

[forest orbit]

also im not american or in that country anymore so im happy lol

[opaque coyote]

[outer wave]

God I'm so sorry to hear about that, man

[forest orbit]

the people can live with their decision

[winter vessel]

and i hope one day that you find God

[forest orbit]

Lmao

Not this again.

[hallow saddle]

i'm not sure any of the big players are actually religious

[crystal forum]

i'm not christian unless i believe trump has God's blessing i guess

[forest orbit]

They arent unless its for clout.

[opaque coyote]

Idk I looked underneath the couch. That's where most of the stuff I lost went.

[hallow saddle]

like jd vance got into catholicism in the last few years i think?

[opaque coyote]

Didn't find him there

[forest orbit]

And he bio-weapon'd the pope

so who knows

[crystal forum]

and he killed the pope....

[forest orbit]

resident evil type shit

[crystal forum]

his mere presence

[opaque coyote]

...and then literally hours after he left. The Pope fucking died

[forest orbit]

Lmao the trio-mention

[sly ivy]

Indeed indeed

[hallow saddle]

he might be the antichrisst

[forest orbit]

he wishes he was one

hes just so stinky his aura killed him

[opaque coyote]

Nah the antichrist would look better

And not uh

[crystal forum]

i dont think trump has ever stepped foot in a church willingly his whole life

[hallow saddle]

fuck jd vance and fuck peter thiel even more

[forest orbit]

He might have

for also clout

[lament shoal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4cqM6uKkh3w?si=xy9qTjytMaWFYSYz

[forest orbit]

LMAO

[outer wave]

Man, J.D Vance is so

A non character?

[sly ivy]

I kinda like him

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/jd-jd-vance-vance-vpn-fat-gif-3934643206448588515

[forest orbit]

JD?

[sly ivy]

So handsome

[forest orbit]

I mean

[outer wave]

He's just there

[opaque coyote]

You need better taste in men.

[crystal forum]

he has memes

[lament shoal]

Are the votan xenos or abhumans?

[winter vessel]

door's still open, i haven't forgotten our little tay to tay back in april 4, Laati

[opaque coyote]

Abhumans

[forest orbit]

Humans turned different species.

[lament shoal]

Ty

[rocky gale]

They're just little guys

[outer wave]

Yeah, and that's it. Like his thank you meme is already a couple months old and is getting stale

[sly ivy]

JD Vance is possible a squat

[hallow saddle]

i hated mike pence at the time but compared to these chumps i'd take pence any day

[lament shoal]

And are they an all male faction? Idk much about them but I've never seen a female votan thus far

[sly ivy]

Possibly

[outer wave]

Oh and he killed the pope and started a war between Pakistan and India I guess

[forest orbit]

Unisex.

[rocky gale]

They're pretty 50/50 modelwise

[lament shoal]

Thx

[forest orbit]

they dont have gender roles

[crystal forum]

he's a tech industry grifter with 0 backbone. trump only chose him because he was the only one available for VP lol

[forest orbit]

everyone is seen equal

even the robots lol

[sly ivy]

He’s smart and his wife seems cool. And he has memes.

[forest orbit]

smart

oof

[outer wave]

If Trump dies during office, I wonder how Vance will do

If he does anything at all

[hallow saddle]

he will

big time

[opaque coyote]

I remember. At least I got inspirations for some sick album covers and stories.

[crystal forum]

probably very poorly since he seems to suck in politics and does not have trump's rabid fans

[hallow saddle]

he's the guy for the silicon valley right wing people and the heritage foundation

even more than trump

and those guys are seriouosly motivated to fuck everything up

[sly ivy]

I mean bro has a yale law degree. Usha is a real Yalie

Undergrad

Interesting people.

[crystal forum]

you could tell he got tilted by the pope death memes. he would collapse if he became pres

[opaque coyote]

True.

[sly ivy]

lmao ok the pope thing was such bad luck hahahaha

[winter vessel]

they come and go

[sly ivy]

How could it not launch a thousand memes

[opaque coyote]

To be fair if I had to talk to Vance. I would die too

[crystal forum]

because he also really really sucks as a person

[lament shoal]

He did say he liked the edits people were making of his face tho lol

[forest orbit]

Yeah I doubt that was honest

[sly ivy]

I mean all these politicians are gonna be deeply weird to regular people

[forest orbit]

he probably saw like

some handpicked ones

not the actually horrific ones

[sly ivy]

Or otherworldly

[crystal forum]

all the accounts of him pre politics are about how terrible he is

[sly ivy]

I met Bill Clinton once. You really get it

[crystal forum]

he's a charisma vacuum

[sly ivy]

Dude could charm a corpse

But he wasn’t like…. Human. It was like meeting a supermodel

But charisma

[opaque coyote]

Trump should surrender the presidency. Man is more senile than Joe Biden ever was

[sly ivy]

I don’t even know how to describe it

[opaque coyote]

I don't trust Trump to not do something catastrophically stupid

[forest orbit]

What gets me is like

he was kinda fine before winning?

Now whenever I watch him I legit cannot understand what hes saying

he actually seems senile to me

[full obsidian]

so wheres the 40k lore at

[opaque coyote]

More appearances makes it more apparent.

[crystal forum]

in your ass

[winter vessel]

give it an hour, the goobers are still talking

[forest orbit]

Yeah might be why, he genuinely comes across as unhinged lol

[opaque coyote]

Idk this is a fortnite server

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1333059004758491138/1379659924459487312/image0.gif

[crystal forum]

the clintons were really good at pretending they were human

[opaque coyote]

Goob

https://tenor.com/view/kiyohime-fate-wah-gif-15047805295556899558

Idk

[forest orbit]

The irony coming from this guy

[opaque coyote]

Goob

Goon

Goop

[crystal forum]

it's ok trump held a bible in front of a church at one point

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah while police were shooting down rioters

[winter vessel]

that's a matter of perspective

[crystal forum]

definitely a good christian that guy

[opaque coyote]

Sorry not rioters

Actual protestors

[forest orbit]

[storm jungle]

I guess it'll come in time

[forest orbit]

Lmao

[crystal forum]

there's just the boring kind of conservatives here

[forest orbit]

I mean

they kinda know if they tell their views they'll prob get banned

so I get it

[winter vessel]

I stay because i like to discuss 40k lore, everything before this is minor to me

[opaque coyote]

Also cause some Trump supporters do it for one policy

[crystal forum]

you're the one who ousted yourself as a theocrat

[winter vessel]

'sides, i'd rather stay with what little time i have left before september

[crystal forum]

nobody asked you to admit that

[opaque coyote]

Because bipartisanism is a flawless system

[storm jungle]

Anyway yeah uh probably best to move on before things get heated.

[winter vessel]

shrugs sorry if it bothers you

[opaque coyote]

Gonna play the devil's advocate but I would say he isn't one

[crystal forum]

boggles my mind that you don't see how that could be a problem

[forest orbit]

He definitely isnt one but the guy is probably a bit converted

[crystal forum]

at least you're honest about it

[opaque coyote]

This is more or less a difference of opinions and sometimes we have to move on

[sly ivy]

Wait Dilara but it’s not really getting heated is it

It’s amazingly cordial

[storm jungle]

[winter vessel]

then i guess i don't see it all because it'd just infuriate me. but again, i stay here because i like learning and sharing 40k lore

[forest orbit]

Yeah I dont think it is kek

[winter vessel]

i kinda owe it to the people in this chat for explaining things to me

[sly ivy]

Yikes

[forest orbit]

What

Im not wrong though?

[crystal forum]

tell me how as a gay person i should be eliminated in the US

[forest orbit]

he literally talks nonsense

[crystal forum]

go ahead

[sly ivy]

just I don’t entirely disagree

Sometimes

[forest orbit]

Also like

hes about almost as old as Biden

[sly ivy]

It’s a bit stressful

[forest orbit]

its kinda normal lol

[jade holly]

The Hell did I walk in on?

[forest orbit]

A conversation

[celest dome]

Didn't we have one a couple of month ago ? Who compared Trump to the Emperor (which is extra funny) in a serious manner ?

[forest orbit]

it happens between multiple human beings

its a whole thing

[storm jungle]

I mean

[winter vessel]

worldly matters bleeding into a media.

[crystal forum]

that's multiple people

[jade holly]

Politics in general is just a messy topic to be dabbling in

[celest dome]

Meant as in here

[sly ivy]

Ya but

[jade holly]

The only way I want to engage with it is in satirical manners

[forest orbit]

I love escapist media because I get to ignore corrupt crazy politicians and governments and get to read about 40k lore which has corrupt crazy politicians and governments

[sly ivy]

This discussion is literally the most cordial political convo I’ve seen in a long time

Haha

[celest dome]

It was quite funny tbh

[late osprey]

Almost like it's banned in the server rules lmao

[crystal forum]

it's ok if the guy in charge says God told him to do it

i saw it in a dream

[storm jungle]

We kinda allow it as long as it doesnt get out of control so

[rocky gale]

Finally started reading Outgunned, Shand's so funny

[storm jungle]

if it isnt this its you guys tearing each other off for lore bits

[sly ivy]

You guys are pretty amazing

[storm jungle]

which ironically gets more toxic lol

[winter vessel]

that was me with Halo. until halo got boring sadly

[jade holly]

I’d hold that leash real tight then tbh

[storm jungle]

[sly ivy]

Guess darktide selects for… good… leaders?

….. ?

[celest dome]

Nah, just that the Discord is well maintained and moderated 💀

[crystal forum]

it's only politics if it's a topic i dont enjoy

[sly ivy]

Dilara just knows the importance of corporal punishment

[sly ivy]

So true tho

[jade holly]

On a more exciting note how are we feeling on the new class so far

[forest orbit]

Peak.

Next question.

[winter vessel]

riot shield for little guy, finally

[crystal forum]

let's talk about the same thing we've been talking about for weeks yes

[jade holly]

They get the gun n shield before Oggy

[sly ivy]

It’s gonna be a little annoying when everyone including me is running only arbites for four months

[jade holly]

Better than arguing politics imo

[sly ivy]

We’re not arguing!! We’re discussing!!

[celest dome]

Tbf, Ogryn aren't known for their dexterity

[jade holly]

Ofc I could go on a tangent and talk about rollercoasters

Like how we lost a legend a few months ago

[winter vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/davy-jones-agreed-pirates-of-the-caribbean-gif-25283278

[jade holly]

[crystal forum]

tangents is all we do here

[winter vessel]

i am curious on how conversations would go with an enforcer psyker and the Arbites about...the lex

[jade holly]

Rip Kingda Ka, would’ve been 20 years old this year

[crystal forum]

maybe the arbites would tell the psyker that he needs to read the lex imperialis to be a functional member of society, or he will kill the psyker because that's what the emperor would want

channel immediately dies when topic is changed back to 40k

[golden imp]

How exactly do the necron beam weapons work? Like if you get hit anywhere are you just straight up dead?

I know armor or chitin doesn’t stop it

[rocky gale]

Yes, except when they don't

[golden imp]

Yeah that’s the part that gets me

[winter vessel]

then again, since loose cannon is often the trouble maker, i'd imagine it wouldn't bode well with THE LAW, bearing down the back of their neck

[golden imp]

Why do they not work sometimes

Just plot armor?

[vagrant fox]

dw sometimes it just don't work

[rocky gale]

Being badass counters the Necron beam

[golden imp]

Do personal shield gens stop em?

[rocky gale]

Sometimes

[golden imp]

Or does necron tech simply not care

[storm jungle]

Entirely depends on plot armor.

Most people will die to 1-2 gauss shots

[golden imp]

Goofy ah setting

[storm jungle]

marines can tank like up to 4-5 then die unless they are special lol

[storm jungle]

Real.

https://tenor.com/view/necrons-gauss-gaussflayer-warhammer-40k-necron-gif-11293259030475458729

[golden imp]

But how do you tank it?

[storm jungle]

Thick armor

thats it lol

[winter vessel]

Inconsistency is CONSISTENCY-the oath taken by 40k authors

[jade holly]

Titus could probably eat 10 and act like nothing happened

[crystal forum]

you roll well your dice

[rocky gale]

Yea, you just got to pass your invul save

Or if you've got a feel no pain, then pass it

[golden imp]

I don’t feel disembowled

[crystal forum]

keep in mind that every main gun in the setting will annihilate a guardsman easily

[golden imp]

So I’m not

[crystal forum]

it's not like a super powerful thing to kill a random guy lol

[storm jungle]

I mean

gauss weapons definitely are

they can literally melt tanks lol

[crystal forum]

bolter to the chest

[golden imp]

Oh fun question

Can the death watch work Gauss rifles?

[crystal forum]

so can a melta gun

[golden imp]

Or is it beyond human comprehension?

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats a specialized weapon

you know uh

not the "basic" firearm of the most base unit of the faction

[crystal forum]

tell that to my entire mini army of gravis armour melta guns

[winter vessel]

a discharge of a melta weapon inside a vehicle

[storm jungle]

drop a pyramid on em

[crystal forum]

im lying i only bought one box

[jade holly]

Honestly melta sounds like what Orks would call a flamethrower

[crystal forum]

it sounds british

easily confused with brain damage

[winter vessel]

i just call it the weaponized microwave

[jade holly]

Speaking of British

Clockwork Revolution looks like it’ll be fun

[winter vessel]

COME ON ENGLAND

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-england-meme-microphone-meme-english-guy-microphone-meme-microphone-deeptroath-drunk-guy-microphone-gif-22436541

[crystal forum]

also ignore the fact that 40k gauss weaponry has nothing to do with the actual term

[rocky gale]

Melter is Northern Irish slang for someone who's annoying

[winter vessel]

what's "bout ye" in Irish slang

[crystal forum]

that's pretty minging

[jade holly]

The British have some of the best insults ngl

[rocky gale]

It means like they're so annoying that it melts your brain talking to them, so melter

[crystal forum]

god i fucking hate how the fandom wiki writes trivia sections in character

[winter vessel]

their football chants are great. The Jimmy Savile is so hilarious

is this artwork the only visual depiction we have of an Orbital Plate?

[sly ivy]

https://youtu.be/sWcDUT3zMjM?feature=shared

[sly ivy]

Big tortilla chip

[jade holly]

If I have to be insulted in life, it better be by a British person. No one can insult me to another plane of existence like a British person can

[winter vessel]

oddly enough, i want it to be a Scotsman

[sly ivy]

They are incredibly talented with the American language it is true

[sly ivy]

This is the actual ultimate

[rocky gale]

Boris is from a higher tier than the regular Brit, he's got that upper class private boarding school education. They get an entire class on how to belittle people.

[sly ivy]

Lmaoooo

[crystal forum]

brits perfected the ingrained elitism

[sly ivy]

That carefully curated slovenly look

[jade holly]

He got that Ivy League tier verbiage

[winter vessel]

https://youtu.be/L-LyFMCIpok?si=EVokr1qRjfMvH-tY where it all began. this used to be a big one for memes in the For Honor fanbase between the vikings and samurai

[sly ivy]

OXBRIDGE id thank u very much

[crystal forum]

whenever i hear about british education i think my childhood wasn't that bad after all

[sly ivy]

Omg

[jade holly]

Bah, elite education is elite education

[rocky gale]

British class system has been honed to an edge for hundreds of years

[crystal forum]

pink floyd made a whole album about how dog shit their education system is

jk

but roger waters really hated his childhood lol

[jade holly]

I know people joke on American education too but honestly the schools I went too were not horrible

[sly ivy]

IF U DON’T EAT UR MEAT

[crystal forum]

it's the classism that sucks a lot in UK schools

[crystal forum]

YOU DONT GET ANY PUDDING

[winter vessel]

anyone try black pudding?

[vagrant fox]

love black pudding

[hallow saddle]

i love black pudding

[winter vessel]

i've yet to have it

[vagrant fox]

sheep blood is better than pig blood this is wisdom

[jade holly]

So called free thinkers when black pudding

[hallow saddle]

they have it in spain too and its also delicious

[crystal forum]

i love learning that as a red head i would be discriminated against in the UK like how pathetic do you have to be

[hallow saddle]

ginger ninja

[rocky gale]

Its not like a serious discrimination

[jade holly]

I heard it’s illegal to suspiciously handle a fish in the UK

[crystal forum]

still

[winter vessel]

this level of red head?

[crystal forum]

weird that it's a thing at all

[hallow saddle]

its not a thing lol

like

[jade holly]

Are cops in the UK called coppers

[crystal forum]

but it's probably related to the irish like most of britain's problems

[winter vessel]

i like the term "bobbies"

[rocky gale]

They've got a million names

[hallow saddle]

no one is genuinely discriminating against ppl with red hair lol

[jade holly]

Aren’t they also called Billies or something?

Or is just the club

[hallow saddle]

Bobbies

[winter vessel]

"lovely day for it"

[hallow saddle]

billy club

[jade holly]

Fun fact, I used We Happy Few for an assignment in High School

[winter vessel]

Really? what subject?

[jade holly]

I think it was in an art class, about symbols

How “joy” was used to suppress people

[storm jungle]

We Happy Few is peak in every department but gameplay so good choice honestly

[winter vessel]

someone try to pull elements of we happy few for a project in my Psych Class, but it couldn't really develop far

[crystal forum]

dilara, lore is a single department in a video game

[rocky gale]

Coppers, Bobbies, the Bill, the rozzers, the fuzz, the peelers, plods, the sweeny, polis etc etc

[winter vessel]

that breakdown of Uncle Jack is pretty creepy if you just watch the video itself and not just the playthrough of Ollie Starkey

[jade holly]

Plod

Lmao

[storm jungle]

What does that even mean

maclunky

[crystal forum]

gonna call the polis?
we are the polis

[jade holly]

Petition to make a successor chapter of Imperial Fists and just call them The Plods

[winter vessel]

the only Polis i knew of is the location in the Metro series

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/harrison-ford-han-solo-over-my-dead-body-star-wars-gif-8992270

[crystal forum]

gameplay is most departments!!!

in fact nearly all of them

[jade holly]

What if I told you

That video games have gameplay

Sony would have you believe otherwise

But I know the truth

[winter vessel]

i knew two guys who were still fresh on Star Wars lore, who, if i remember, are still debating who shot first in this scene

[jade holly]

I done seens it with me own visual jellies

[rocky gale]

and in NI we also sometimes use Garda or gard

[crystal forum]

are you talking about microtransactions with gameplay elements?

[winter vessel]

never realized how good of a meme template this image could be

[jade holly]

I mean in the sense that their games are just glorified movies a lot of the time

lol

[celest dome]

POV: You just woke up after falling asleep first at the party

[crystal forum]

lore accurate setting where Britain becomes a totalitarian state as the rest of the world moves on

[rocky gale]

Imagine

[winter vessel]

Speaking of Britain i gotta rewatch 28 days later to prep for 28 Years later in 2 weeks

[rocky gale]

Instead of 28 years later, they should have made a prequel called 28 hours before.

[winter vessel]

it would be pretty cool to explore the initial outbreak

[jade holly]

Isn’t there a 28 weeks later?

[crystal forum]

i really want to see how they explain the fact that zombies still exist 28 years after the events despite them being shown to die of hunger after a few weeks in the other 2 movies

[jade holly]

Or a 28 months later

[crystal forum]

days, months, years

[jade holly]

Frankly I wanna see 28 seconds later smh

[rocky gale]

Where nothing happens because the infection hasn't happened yet. It's just people going about their lives

[winter vessel]

yeah, but it wasn't as good

[crystal forum]

wait no

it's weeks not months

even i got confused