40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

Mandarin is the defacto

national language

of China

it is not at all what is spoken commonly

in 99% of China

with regional dialects and languages instead

There's also a massive Muslim population in China that is really close to Xin Jiang

and also hates the Uhygers

[opaque coyote]

Let me guess. Any CCP remnants. In desperation to keep control, will start murdering groups of people that they think are dissidents

[arctic talon]

you can see where I'm going with this soon

[winter vessel]

Ah man not the uhygers

[arctic talon]

The Hui

HATE the Uhygers

[opaque coyote]

Those poor bastards

[arctic talon]

for a lot of historical reasons

but also for the little rebellion that happened in Xi Jiang during ww2

which led to uh

a lot of the areas the Hui lived in

being occupied by the japanese

[opaque coyote]

More genocide

[arctic talon]

because the Hui nationalist troops were mostly withdrawn to contain the rebellion in Xi Jiang

anyways point being even if a CCP state doesn't balkanize

[opaque coyote]

And we all know.

That if you ever get genocided.

The proper response is to genocide them back. Clearly.

[arctic talon]

there's going to be genocide

because there's a lot of ethnic and cultural tensions

which the CCP is actively flaming up

because of course it is

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah isn't there also a cult going around

Falun Gong

[arctic talon]

Falun Gong is a psycho cult but I also don't think they deserve to get genocided and have their fucking organs harvasted by the CCP

like

[opaque coyote]

I think the CCP are actively arresting members and putting them in camps if I remember correctly

[arctic talon]

they are literally harvesting their organs yes

anyways releveant

because the CCP is trying to push Han Chinese Nationalism recently in an attempt to reassert control

[opaque coyote]

Yup that'll do it

[outer wave]

You think China may try and nab Russian territory within the next few years? Russia's pretty weak as is, and I did hear there was some contention with certain areas

[opaque coyote]

Generally, there is no "good side". It's just different levels of fucked up.

[arctic talon]

Mao wasn't han chinese, which is ironic because the recent CCP Han nationalist stuff in China love using Mao

[arctic talon]

Yes absolutely

the Chinese populace does not like Russia lol

if China really needs some browny points

they can go for some "historic" territory

from Russia

and by historic

I mean the one that one mongol splinter dynasty had

[astral burrow]

What the fuck is the chat about

Are y'all having a podcast

[arctic talon]

Chinese politics™️ and history

and the increasing instability of the CCP

[arctic talon]

No, Falun Gong are def the less bad side

the main group might be a really bad cult

but the people who practice it are literally normal people

[celest dome]

They're allegedly already doing it that, apparently there are some Russian cities on the border that now are just populated by Chinese citizen

[astral burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/iamspeed-kai-cenat-druski-cbs-golazo-hands-on-table-explain-gif-13119546189619448393

[arctic talon]

there's nothing weird about it inherently

[astral burrow]

Chat rn

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[outer wave]

Wow, damn really?

[arctic talon]

relevant

Me when my 2 biggest geopolitical rivals

has one fucking shoot themselves in the leg

and hack off their own leg and arm for the other

all within 5 years

God please let Xi Jin Ping die

🙏

[sly ivy]

Lmfao

[vagrant fox]

All glory to Jiang Zemin 🙏

no wait he died who's the leader of that faction now

[arctic talon]

Xi Jin Ping

is the current leader of the CCP

and also president of China

and Prime minister

[sly ivy]

Hard even to be mad dude has made some good moods

[vagrant fox]

I meant more the internal political cliques, Jiang Zemins one was purged a lot in corruption cases wasn't it

[arctic talon]

Oh

yeah

[sly ivy]

It is pretty fucking weird that China is de facto seen as benevolent ish comparatively

[arctic talon]

I'm not sure, I'm not too familiar with the CCP's political cliques

[sly ivy]

In academia, in tech / business

[arctic talon]

Im more familiar with Taiwans

lol

which is alot simpler

beacuse you just have 2 nationalists

and then the moderates

[sly ivy]

But like actually the regime is deeply horrifying

[arctic talon]

In taiwan you get to vote for the Taiwanse Nationalists or the Chinese nationalists

pick one

[astral burrow]

Literally nothing good in future games show smh

[arctic talon]

one risks war with the CCP, the other risks war with the CCP

[opaque coyote]

Less bad for sure, and they don't deserve getting genocided.

But I definitely wouldn't want the main group taking over China.

Like I said, different levels of fucked up

[arctic talon]

tbf

the chinese populace

also uh

has very bad opininons of religon in government

and military strongmen

a military coup wouldn't work in China because there's a lot of people alive from the warlord era still

the modern, warlord era

[vagrant fox]

I think there were three big ones in the CCP but I haven't kept up, it was some real political drama stuff

[arctic talon]

the Jiang Clique according to wikipedia

fucking imploded

[opaque coyote]

Reminds me of how Hitler said that Aryans were the master race but he literally isn't Aryan.

[arctic talon]

blonde like hitler, thin like goering, beautiful like gobbels

[opaque coyote]

Overall blood connections and shit are stupid

And dumb

[arctic talon]

Yes

[sly ivy]

No one is Aryan lmao it was an incorrect genealogical hypothesis

[opaque coyote]

And should not be a thing

[arctic talon]

But people are racist

[opaque coyote]

Exactly.

But it's funny how even in that hypothesis

[sly ivy]

Yes

Very

[opaque coyote]

Hitler didn't even fulfill his stupid requirement

HE BASICALLY MADE UP A REQUIREMENT.

AND HE FAILED THAT

IT'S LIKE MAKING UP YOUR OWN TEST AND FAILING

Like if you're gonna be

A racist genocidal dictator

At least make sure you fulfill the requirements of your dumbass credence

Y'know?

[arctic talon]

It’s so much easier then a language I know doesn’t need me to learn how to read or write it

Because it doesn’t exist

I am regretting trying to learn how to read Japanese better. This shit is ass/hj

[opaque coyote]

Then again, the world sometimes just has people fail upwards.

Look at: The current USA president

And also Pol Pot.

The man somehow died old, surrounded by his supporters, despite being considered a crazy dumbass even by Mao and Stalin

[arctic talon]

These 2 are the same type of bike in lore

What did GW mean by this

GW please update the vyper it’s so fucking ugly

[opaque coyote]

Checkerboard

Lovely

[opaque coyote]

I think the front area is fine. I think it's just the turret area

[arctic talon]

It’s the back entirely

lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

The front looks completely fine

I also like the weird fins

[arctic talon]

It’s like the horse meme

Inverted

[opaque coyote]

In general the Eldar Vehicles are a mixed bag.

Some of them look cool

[proven needle]

Love how the wind shield ends exactly under the pilot's eyes 😆

[opaque coyote]

And some of them look dumb precisely because of one area

[vagrant fox]

The concept of the Cambodian–Vietnamese War is the funniest thing to me
This dude sucks to bad we gotta get in there

[arctic talon]

All of them look cool but the wall walker and vyper

[opaque coyote]

Pol Pot literally never read the communist manifesto byw

[arctic talon]

It’s got an energy shield in lore, they’ll be fine smh

[opaque coyote]

Like

Never

[arctic talon]

Have you considered pol pot was insane

[opaque coyote]

Honestly. It's so insane that like...

Fuck Holocaust deniers, or moon landing deniers.

Where are the MFS that deny Pol Pot's existence.

Like a part of me everytime I read about him

I think

"Is he real?"

"Is this fiction? Does this man actually exist?"

Like he is that fucking batshit

How did somebody this insane even get to the point where he could run a country

He literally sounds like a cartoon villain

[arctic talon]

“Kill everyone with glasses”

“Kill all the doctors, give the teenagers coconut juice and surgical tools, western medicines a lie”

[astral burrow]

Still politics chat damn

[astral burrow]

DO NOT

[sly ivy]

East Asia is wild man

[arctic talon]

Cambodia is southeast

[sly ivy]

I don’t understand the whole corporate dystopia thing w South Korea either

[arctic talon]

[arctic talon]

Government empowered a bunch of corporations a long time ago

Those corporations grew out of control

Is the tldr

I don’t know the exact details

But the government gave a bunch of monetary and political support to specific corporations and businesses

[storm jungle]

There isnt really much to understand

they just own/run everything to a max degree

its kinda the "boring" version of a dystopia

(also theres a reason birth rates are declining and students uhhh get into fatal ends most of the time shall we say 💀 )

Anyway

[storm jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5ThZIXGVRk

Short version ^

[sly ivy]

Rip in peace

[storm jungle]

Yeah theres a reason most korean parents just... bail the country.

the social pressure for the kids is immense, if you dont enter like one of the 3-4 huge corpos you are basically considered an "failure"

lmfao

[sly ivy]

Extreme culture

My best college buddy is half Korean and one of my college exes was pretty much fresh off the boat K. Shared feature insane mothers.

[storm jungle]

Yep that checks out.

[sly ivy]

The psycho ajumma strikes again

[storm jungle]

Like, the meme of "asian parents hate it when you get a A grade" is not a joke there lol

hence why I said its a "boring" dystopia, its just your spirit getting mentally crushed and thats it really

[crystal forum]

not gay enough

[storm jungle]

thats later

[sly ivy]

🚩

Need teh gays 2 keep the fun up 2 keep the birth rate up

U fools

[umbral kraken]

average experience with capitalism

[astral burrow]

It can be a fun dystopia if you don't go to school and become a criminal like V

[arctic talon]

V is technically not a criminal mostly

a lot of their jobs are in the grey to white area

a few are def not legal

but a huge chunk are legal in Cyberpunk

[astral burrow]

I killed like a gazillion people even without jobs

And stolen so many cars

I am definitely a criminal

Some of those padre missions, man

Killed some corpo goons too

[arctic talon]

Okay, killing random people on the street is def less legal

but killing corpo goons is legal

it depends lol

the Law in Cyberpunk is how do we say

very okay with murder

if a corpo shoots at you you can just blow their fucking head off lol

you are within your legal right

[astral burrow]

I think it is the other way around

Lol

[arctic talon]

no

its legal

lol

The corps are strong

but it goes both way

the law is very liberal with murder in the NUSA

There's a reason the NCPD wasn't after V

after they according to Arasaka murdered

[astral burrow]

I just shot a woman in her own office and slaughtered every guard in the building I don't think that was legal

[arctic talon]

saburo

[astral burrow]

Oh wait

[arctic talon]

that was legal probably

lol

under NCPD law

[astral burrow]

I uuh

[arctic talon]

again

[astral burrow]

I betrayed the president

That wasn't very legal

[arctic talon]

the NUSA is very loose with murder laws

okay that one isn't legal prolly lol

but still

[astral burrow]

Yeah CIA is on my ass

[arctic talon]

KIlling a bunch of corpo rats is pretty legal

Corpo rats kill each other all the time

[astral burrow]

But if you did what V does to make a dystopia "fun", you gotta be a criminal

In our world

Like if you wanna make south Korea a "fun dystopia" for yourself

You gotta NOT go to school

[arctic talon]

well you wouldn't get away for it very long

[astral burrow]

Which leaves no other options besides crime

[arctic talon]

Because murder is illegal

[storm jungle]

no

[astral burrow]

Depends

[storm jungle]

again, the only way to win is to leave

aka never play the game

[astral burrow]

There is no winning in a dystopia

But it can be fun

[storm jungle]

Yes there is.

You can leave.

[astral burrow]

Leaving doesn't count

[storm jungle]

It does.

you do something with your life

[astral burrow]

You said it is a boring dystopia

It can be a fun dystopia

If you ignore school

[storm jungle]

"Boring" as in there isnt corpo-wars in the streets

[astral burrow]

Yet

[storm jungle]

you just get your spirit slowly crushed by the public

[astral burrow]

Cause corpo wars

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-yap-yapper-yapping-gif-5642199211123099306

[astral burrow]

Frame a corpo for murdering another corpo

Luigimaxxing

Get an engram of Luigi Mangione in your head

[arctic talon]

You can literally become a Nomad

Excluding Metacorp

Which is a Nonad Corp

[astral burrow]

I don't think any other city besides night city is much better

[arctic talon]

Well

[astral burrow]

Cyberpunk world is just fucked

[arctic talon]

They are better

They’re much less violent

And less stratified

[astral burrow]

Idk about that

Less concrete jungle, sure

[arctic talon]

They literally are

No

Concrete jungle about the same

But night city

Is literally the worst city

[astral burrow]

Pretty sure the city you go to during the nomad ending is not better if not worse

[arctic talon]

In the NUSAin terms of violence

[arctic talon]

You’re not going to a city

[astral burrow]

Wherever you are going

[arctic talon]

You’re going to see people likely part of metacorp

Which aren’t a city

[storm jungle]

Bro literally barely knows any cyberpunk lore and yet tries to argue

remove his balls

[arctic talon]

Metacorp are still shady as fuck

[astral burrow]

I am never getting nomad ending

[arctic talon]

But they’re like

[astral burrow]

Fuck panam

[arctic talon]

Not the worst

Lol

[storm jungle]

Well yes

thats the idea

[arctic talon]

Metacorp are cool

Is my point

[astral burrow]

I am not fucking panam either

Kill panam

Can I?

[arctic talon]

Why do you hate her so much

[astral burrow]

She is a whiny piece of shit

[arctic talon]

No

But you can fuck her over

[astral burrow]

Lame

[arctic talon]

So you can do that if you want

[astral burrow]

Fallout would have let me

Can I get her killed?

[arctic talon]

No

[astral burrow]

Lame game

[arctic talon]

Bruh

[storm jungle]

No she isnt.

[astral burrow]

Panam glazers when songbird is right there

[storm jungle]

fucking psycho

kill this bitch

[astral burrow]

She is

[storm jungle]

and his stupid gf

[astral burrow]

Half the time she is just whining

[arctic talon]

Songbird is a manipulative psycho but I like her

[astral burrow]

Whaaa my car is gone, Saul doesn't let me hijack a corpo convoy, waaaah

[storm jungle]

I think you are just a bit unhinged but-

Thanks for giving me more reason to dislike Songbird glazers.

these people man, they never learn

[astral burrow]

She has nothing going for her besides having a gigantic ass the size of the stick she has up there

[storm jungle]

She does.

You are just a weirdo

[arctic talon]

Panam is very nice as a person tbh

[storm jungle]

and thats okay

Yeah she is

[arctic talon]

She’s just like, having the worst week of her life

[storm jungle]

im not sure what hes even getting at

[arctic talon]

Unironically

Lol

[astral burrow]

I would blow her head with gorilla arms if I could

[arctic talon]

Okay

You can do what you want lul

[storm jungle]

Sociopathic behavior

least deranged songbird stan

[astral burrow]

The game doesn't let me!

[storm jungle]

Why would it

[arctic talon]

Get a mod if you want

[storm jungle]

Panam isnt a bad person

or an evil one

[arctic talon]

Also yeah V is like

[astral burrow]

Cuz it lets me kill songbird

[storm jungle]

lmao

[astral burrow]

It is not fair

[arctic talon]

Their own person in universe

[storm jungle]

Almost like

Songbitch is part of some bigger plot

and a key character

thus has more strings attached

[arctic talon]

Songbird is part of a major plot

[storm jungle]

🧠

[astral burrow]

Panam wishes she was a key character

[storm jungle]

I mean no

she doesnt

[arctic talon]

Being important in cyberpunk is suffering

[storm jungle]

shes fine where she is

lmao

[arctic talon]

No happy endings in night city

Well, there’s the other type

[storm jungle]

We are not chipping it in

[astral burrow]

Whenever things don't go her way or someone doesn't let her do whatever she wants, she goes on bitch mode, insults your entire lineage, and fucks off

[arctic talon]

But not for you

[storm jungle]

"bitch mode"

you mean like

make 1 complaint

[astral burrow]

Imma call her for the last time to tell her I am going on a suicide mission, she acts like I am breaking up 2 words into the conversation

[storm jungle]

God forbid anyone that dates you krait

[astral burrow]

Fucking ghosts me after a 3 year coma

[arctic talon]

METAL BURNINGNEETH MY SKIN IM CHIPPING IN

[storm jungle]

actual hannibal lector

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

You'd do the same thing

V literally disappears

[astral burrow]

No the fuck I would not

[storm jungle]

how tf can she or anyone know

[arctic talon]

Have you considered that there’s literally other things going on in universe during that time

[storm jungle]

3 years is a long ass time

[storm jungle]

^

[astral burrow]

Literally everyone else you talk to responds

[arctic talon]

And something horrid happens to the aldecaldod

Lol

[storm jungle]

Krait thinks the world revolves around him

[astral burrow]

judy moves on, marries to someone else, and still says hi

[arctic talon]

Which makes panam mad at you

[storm jungle]

Judy is a fucking mechanic

[arctic talon]

Okay but something happens to the aldecaldo nation

Something not good

Who knows what it is lol

[storm jungle]

Panam literally has an entire community to look for + a Nomad lol

[astral burrow]

The least she could do is at least pick up the phone and not send Mitch to talk in her stead like an errand boy

[arctic talon]

She’s in charge of a major branch of the aldecaldos yeah

[sly ivy]

What the fuck is the aldecaldo is that that medal for kids books

[arctic talon]

She doesn’t want to talk to you

She’s mad at you

[astral burrow]

Womp womp thank god

[arctic talon]

She didn’t know you were in a coma

[storm jungle]

Yeah you didnt tell her anything

[arctic talon]

Literally no one did

[astral burrow]

She would now if she picked up the fucking phone

[storm jungle]

How can she

[arctic talon]

The NUSA takes to you a black site

[storm jungle]

lol

[astral burrow]

Like every single other person

[storm jungle]

so like

1

others also had no idea and move on

lmao

[astral burrow]

River has the worst day of his life and he still picks up the phone

[arctic talon]

It’s a nomad nation in cyberpunk, main things they do are arms running and human trafficking

[umbral kraken]

instructions unclear. everyone is dead.

[astral burrow]

Yeah and still picked up the phone, understood the situation, wished you the best

[arctic talon]

River is one person, whatever happens to him is at a much smaller scale

[storm jungle]

^

[sly ivy]

Many such cases

[arctic talon]

You know how big a nomad nation is

[storm jungle]

Womp womp

[astral burrow]

He has a family

[storm jungle]

Yeah a family

[arctic talon]

Smaller scale

[storm jungle]

not an entire community lol

who are also nomadic

[arctic talon]

Community is an understatement

[storm jungle]

a WHAT-

[arctic talon]

They’re called a nation

[astral burrow]

Mitch has the balls to pick up the phone

[arctic talon]

For a reason

[storm jungle]

Oh my god krait shut up

[arctic talon]

Because he isn’t as mad at you

[astral burrow]

Just admit panam is ass

[arctic talon]

Mitch in general is always much calmer

She literally isn’t

She has logical reasons to act the way she does

[astral burrow]

She has 0 redeeming traits.

[arctic talon]

You just don’t like it when characters are mean

[storm jungle]

^

Fragile personality

its normal

[astral burrow]

I don't mind it when that's not their entire personality

[storm jungle]

It isnt though.

[arctic talon]

It isn’t her entire personality

[storm jungle]

You are just extremely judgemental

ironically being the more worse counterpart

lmao

[astral burrow]

It pretty much is.

[storm jungle]

It really isnt

stop huffing all that copium 💀

[astral burrow]

It 100% is

[storm jungle]

Its not, and thats okay

she cant hurt you

she isnt real

just like Goonssiah

[astral burrow]

I know that's why killing her is okay

[storm jungle]

or whatever that navigator fish name is

[astral burrow]

Who tf goons to the omnissiah

[storm jungle]

A person who literally did nothing to you?

[umbral kraken]

Panam cutest girl

[astral burrow]

Yeah cuz she is fictional

And annoying

[storm jungle]

Then why are you so mad

[astral burrow]

Cuz I am bored

[storm jungle]

Krait has been brainwashed by the Songbunny

[umbral kraken]

free my boy krait

[astral burrow]

Wtf is a songbunny

[storm jungle]

you'd know simp

[astral burrow]

Saving songbird fucks with the government

Enough reason to like her

[arctic talon]

Based NUSA hater

[storm jungle]

the turkish angst is getting out of control

[arctic talon]

anyways the way the corps in 2077 are depicted is pathetic

They don’t have Corpo kill squada

Why even live

[storm jungle]

Literally.

[arctic talon]

I don’t feel like a stain on their boot

Lol

[astral burrow]

Tell that to a gazillion arasaka ninjas chasing me every 5 minutes

Help

[arctic talon]

That’s not a Corpo kill squad

They don’t have AV support

Or full Borgs

[astral burrow]

They are a squad sent by a corp to kill me

[storm jungle]

Your salt trails led em right to you 🙏

[astral burrow]

Works for me

[umbral kraken]

you would think in cyberpunk the girls would be supremely cute and beautiful but they kinda aren't

[storm jungle]

I mean they are

i assume this is a bait statement though so

[astral burrow]

Have you seen Rita wheeler

[sly ivy]

🖐️

🤜

[astral burrow]

Judy? Evelyn? SONGBIRD?

[arctic talon]

Corporations have 3 different levels of teams they send to kill you

Corporate security
Corporatist kill squad
Corporate military

[astral burrow]

Kiwi from edgerunners?

[storm jungle]

Songbird from Bioshock infinite?

[arctic talon]

2077 never goes above corporate security

[storm jungle]

How can you smash it

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

its a giant robot

[arctic talon]

Also lack of fullborg enemies

[arctic talon]

Why are there none

[storm jungle]

You're a real freak for wanting to smash this thing

[astral burrow]

I don't think anyone can smash songbird from cyberpunk anyway

[arctic talon]

I don’t mind V can’t become a fullborg

[umbral kraken]

they are beautiful but just not as beautiful as id think if you could modify your face at will

[arctic talon]

She can just get an attachment for her body

She’s a fullborg

[astral burrow]

That would just be uncanny

[storm jungle]

Oh that kind lol, idk ive not been around a lot of plastic people 💀

[sly ivy]

wtf is that bioshock thing anyway does it have a biological component like the big daddies

[arctic talon]

It costs a lot of money

[astral burrow]

Lizzy wizzy is ugly asf

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[astral burrow]

She is a freak too

[arctic talon]

Is the reason why

[astral burrow]

And insane

[storm jungle]

Shes great.

[arctic talon]

Lizzy is based and a full Borg

[astral burrow]

So full body customization isnt the best

[storm jungle]

I mean

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

[storm jungle]

shes rich

[astral burrow]

Too shiny

[arctic talon]

Going full Borg explicitly makes you go insane

Lol

[storm jungle]

Thats the point dumbass

[astral burrow]

She was insane before that

[arctic talon]

Songbird and Lizzy are both examples of fullborgs being pretty sane

[astral burrow]

She killed herself during a performance and got the fully body conversaion on stage

Then continued the show

[arctic talon]

Yeah

That’s like

[storm jungle]

I mean yes?

[arctic talon]

Based

[storm jungle]

shes a celebrity

thats based

[arctic talon]

The people love that shit

[astral burrow]

She was fucked in the head even before full borg

[umbral kraken]

I mean that's basically what everyone in cp is

[astral burrow]

She scares me

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Which means consequently her personality changes less

Lol

[storm jungle]

"She scares me"

Woman

checks out

[arctic talon]

Psychopaths and sociopaths do better as full Borgs

Explicitly

[storm jungle]

She also shows like zero unhinged quirks

[sly ivy]

Nothing scarier

[storm jungle]

😔

[astral burrow]

Woman that kills herself for a spectacle, hires me to kill her partner who is trying to save her, and looks like a doll covered in aluminum foil

[arctic talon]

Well, her wanting to carve out her managers heart

[storm jungle]

Its the future. Also its a fashion statement, it isnt that crazy for a world set in 2077

stop reaching little man

[arctic talon]

Tbf chrome skin is different from a full body conversion

[storm jungle]

Yeah she isnt really a full-on robot

[arctic talon]

Lizzy underwent full body conversion lol

No she’s a full Borg

[astral burrow]

It is reasonable to fear a literal psychopath

[arctic talon]

Which meant they shoved her organs into a bio pod on stage

Lol

[storm jungle]

your definition of a psychopath is like

existing

so im gonna ignore it kek

[arctic talon]

She’s probably in a modified Raven Gemini

[astral burrow]

And killing yourself + people yes

[arctic talon]

Which is why she’s so humanoid

[storm jungle]

People?

so

like you?

and your simpsong girl?

[umbral kraken]

I would be scared of V too

[storm jungle]

😭

[astral burrow]

Lizzy apologists smh

[storm jungle]

We arent apologists, we just know stuff.

you cant even read a lexicanum page

[astral burrow]

Songbird is literally the most reasonable character in the game

[storm jungle]

"reasonable"

literally lies to you

leaves you for dead

manipulates you

[umbral kraken]

I think i love song actually

[arctic talon]

Her boyfriend wants to make an engram about her

[astral burrow]

If my options were either lying to a Merc I just met, or getting turned into a servitor for the government

[arctic talon]

Which is like

[astral burrow]

I would lie

[arctic talon]

Pretty reasonable for her to tell you to

[storm jungle]

She fits your biased definitions of a "bad" character

[arctic talon]

Find out what her boyfriend is doing

[storm jungle]

the cope has reached critical stages....

[astral burrow]

To save her from cyberpsychosis

[storm jungle]

No...?

Its because hes a creep

[astral burrow]

No it doesn't cuz she does it to fuck with the government and save her own life

[arctic talon]

Which doesn’t work

Lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah it does. Stop being so two faced 😔

[astral burrow]

I am not going to judge anyone who got used as a fucking CPU so Ms president can wage a war

[arctic talon]

He should just break up with her

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/pve-cm-ss13-gif-15364943725912888113

[arctic talon]

Unironically

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-saul-goodman-yap-yapper-and-heres-the-yapper-gif-5918036355328019302

[arctic talon]

Instead of trying to get an engram created of her

[astral burrow]

He is dating Lizzy wizzy

[arctic talon]

Yes

[astral burrow]

Do u think he is normal?

[arctic talon]

He should break up with her

[storm jungle]

Who tf is saying hes normal

lol

[astral burrow]

And can make rational decisions?

[arctic talon]

I mean no, but with how things go for him he dug his own grave lol

[storm jungle]

???

[arctic talon]

Lizzy hates corpos

[astral burrow]

Corpus

[arctic talon]

Already

[astral burrow]

Lizzy is a grineer defender

My goat

[arctic talon]

I’m sure she hates meat to an extent as well

[storm jungle]

Based.

[astral burrow]

Vegetarian?

[arctic talon]

But Lizzy hates corpos, she literally hired a bunch of mercenary’s to take over a plant and blow it up

[astral burrow]

Ew

Ew

[arctic talon]

Meat as in flesh

Meatsacks

[astral burrow]

And steal body parts to give people in need

[storm jungle]

by "body parts"

you mean cybernetics

yes

[astral burrow]

From the moment I understood-

[astral burrow]

Pretty much

Body replacement parts

[arctic talon]

If you don’t want Liam to die horribly

[arctic talon]

You should lie to Lizzy

[storm jungle]

Yes. Thats what they are.

[arctic talon]

And then she just breaks up with him

[storm jungle]

🧠

[arctic talon]

You know

Instead of strangling him to death

[astral burrow]

Saburo should have broken up

[storm jungle]

He was too busy getting strangled

[arctic talon]

No saburo was blinded by love for his son

Who hates him lol

[astral burrow]

Well we wouldn't have gotten that banger OST of his death

So glad he died

[arctic talon]

Saburo deserves to die

[sly ivy]

I knew u would be on ur way 2 the omnissian gooncave presently

[arctic talon]

He’s a horrible person lol

[umbral kraken]

so basically what im getting out of this is that life is simpler when I say Panam best girl

[sly ivy]

It’s in the noctis labyrinth

[astral burrow]

Of only we got to do it ourselves

[sly ivy]

First right two lefts long stretch a left and a right

[storm jungle]

[sly ivy]

Then down

[arctic talon]

Yorinobu is based

[astral burrow]

Or you can be honest with yourself, accept that songbird is best girl, and deal with the consequences like a man

[arctic talon]

He’s the only good person in the Arasaka family

Tbh

[umbral kraken]

she alright

[astral burrow]

Or you can just go for the redhead french lady

[arctic talon]

Because he wants to tear down Arasaka

[storm jungle]

Yeah uh

he did a terrible job at it

[arctic talon]

He’s still a horrid person

Just

Not in a diffrent way

[arctic talon]

Well he did a good job at it, if you don’t side with Arasaka

Arasaka always suffers a minor collapse

[storm jungle]

Im too lazy to do either.

[arctic talon]

Lol

[astral burrow]

I am so conflicted about hanako

[storm jungle]

WHAT

[arctic talon]

Hanako is evil

[storm jungle]

shes literally an evil manipulator

[astral burrow]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

She’s just less evil then her granddad

Lol

[astral burrow]

I know that

[arctic talon]

Which isn’t saying a lot

[astral burrow]

Grandad?

[sly ivy]

Wait but is she hot

[astral burrow]

That's just her dad

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

Only good defense

[arctic talon]

Wait actually

Lemme double check the family tree

[astral burrow]

Saburo isn't hanakos dad?

It is

[storm jungle]

Saburo is their dead.

[astral burrow]

She is yorinobus sister

[storm jungle]

I MEAN

dad

[arctic talon]

Nvm she’s saburo’s daughter

I forgor

[astral burrow]

She is like what, 80?

[storm jungle]

Probably.

[astral burrow]

Sick

[storm jungle]

Anyway yeah shes evil

theres nothing to be "conflicted" with her

unless like

you got the IQ of a hamster

[astral burrow]

But hot, and does help me out to some extent

[arctic talon]

Michiko Arasaka canonically fucked Adam smasher lol

[storm jungle]

checks out with what I said

[arctic talon]

You’re welcome for this info

[astral burrow]

Peak

We all know best girl is Spider

[storm jungle]

who

[astral burrow]

Spider Murphy

[arctic talon]

Spider murphy’s heart already belongs to someone else

[storm jungle]

Eddie Murphy?

[arctic talon]

Also she’s a based cyber terrorist

Lol

[storm jungle]

hes a guy

[astral burrow]

The netrunner who helped Johnny storm arasaka tower

No she is a woman

[arctic talon]

Well

[storm jungle]

Who has like a 10s cameo

[arctic talon]

Not Johnny specifically

[storm jungle]

boring

[arctic talon]

Lol

[astral burrow]

Shhh

[arctic talon]

Johnnys memories are all wrong

[astral burrow]

Yeah, me

[storm jungle]

I mean

[arctic talon]

Which is funny

[storm jungle]

Johnny is pretty stupid

[astral burrow]

I know it is Morgan blackhand

[arctic talon]

Int is his lowest stat…..

[astral burrow]

Is charisma highest?

Well, cool

[arctic talon]

Well, Morgan did something diffrent

[arctic talon]

It’s Cool + empathy

[astral burrow]

Empathy?

[storm jungle]

Explains why hes so annoying ingame ngl

[arctic talon]

How much of a cyberpsycho/people can relate to you

And how charismatic you are

[storm jungle]

plucked him out of my head the first chance I got

[arctic talon]

Empathy is 3 in one

[astral burrow]

He grew on me

[arctic talon]

he’s fun

[astral burrow]

Especially in phantom liberty

[arctic talon]

I liked him from the start

[storm jungle]

He reminded me of Krait so I had him wiped

[astral burrow]

He is quite sincere and chill in phantom liberty

[arctic talon]

I wish he was more antagonistic longer

[storm jungle]

maybe next time

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[astral burrow]

Especially in the ending where you get cured

[storm jungle]

yeah probably because uh

people complained

that hes fucking annoying

lmao

[arctic talon]

PUT SOME IRON IN YOUR MOUTH AND PULL THE TRIGGER

[astral burrow]

He is so chill when you send songbird to the moon too

[storm jungle]

IF I WANT YOUR BODY ILL FUCK IT

[arctic talon]

I just wish Johnny was more antagonistic longer

[astral burrow]

Wish I was as cool

[arctic talon]

He gets too nice pretty fast

[astral burrow]

But nah

[arctic talon]

Imo

[vagrant fox]

rip takemura you were the only real one
too bad I'm not an arasimp

[storm jungle]

Thats how you know its fiction

[arctic talon]

Fakemura is bad

He’s just nice enough

[astral burrow]

He literally just "yeah I thought about it, I don't wanna kill you no more"

[arctic talon]

I like him

[storm jungle]

I remember a great comment about Takemura

[arctic talon]

He’s a good Corpo rat

[astral burrow]

Out of nowhere

[sacred bluff]

can you do that or do you have to keep him in your head

[sly ivy]

80 degrees C bc she smokin

[storm jungle]

Uh its for the endings

you got a ton of choices

[astral burrow]

Real

[astral burrow]

Don't think you ever get to keep him with you

You gotta get rid of someone

[storm jungle]

based

[arctic talon]

I wish they kept michiko’s original haircut

Over her uh 2077 cut

Lol

[astral burrow]

In the end there is only one of you in the body

[arctic talon]

Her hair looks so much better in Red

[astral burrow]

Or neither of you

[storm jungle]

"Takemura is the type to burn an orphanage if ordered but he will ask if he can let the inhabitants out first before doing so."

I remember reading this quote from someone awhile back when the game came out and its pitch-perfect way to describe Tak.

[arctic talon]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cyberpunk/images/a/a3/Michiko_Sanderson_Infobox_CPRED.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20240806185637

[astral burrow]

Rw

Real

Doesn't she have a gang or smth

[arctic talon]

No

PMC

[storm jungle]

She has a goongang

its over on r34-

[astral burrow]

Yeah part of a group or what we

Whatever

[storm jungle]

Yeah, goongang

[astral burrow]

She is a pretty looking lady in a popular game of course people goon

[arctic talon]

She runs a PMC who have cat ears or other animal like cybernetics

[astral burrow]

Yeah that

[storm jungle]

Oh god

[arctic talon]

What

I didn’t pick the story

They wrote that into her lore smh

[umbral kraken]

where do i sign up

[arctic talon]

Blame pondsmith

[arctic talon]

Do you have military or medical training

[storm jungle]

https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Danger_Gal

WHAT IS THIS LOGO

[umbral kraken]

in a hypothetical cyberpunk world...maybe

[arctic talon]

You know

It’s for horny corporats

Who want hot men and women

As their body guards

[storm jungle]

CANNOT BELIEVE THIS

[astral burrow]

It was a different link, dilara

To the actual squad

[storm jungle]

Why are you telling me

i didnt do anything

[astral burrow]

Didn't you delete it

Smh

[storm jungle]

no lol

schizo ass

[astral burrow]

https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Puma_Squad

Woman in suit

We were robbed

[storm jungle]

Too generic

[astral burrow]

I love generic

[arctic talon]

Her design is fine

[storm jungle]

if this was in the game you'd bitch about it looking too basic

lmao

[arctic talon]

Imo

[astral burrow]

No cuz I like it

[arctic talon]

But I like cyberpunk red

Lol

[storm jungle]

Nah

[astral burrow]

I would simp

[storm jungle]

you are a two-faced gooner

next question

[astral burrow]

I love women with short hair in suits

That's like half my taste

[storm jungle]

🧢

[astral burrow]

The panther one is trans btw

Based

Seems michiko was pretty young on 2023, kinda reminds me how fucking old Johnny would actually be in 2077

Miracle the guy wasn't more surprised with the state of the world after 40 years

Guess the world itself didn't change that much

[arctic talon]

Only big change is the Net and net running, rest of everything is pretty similar

No more physical ports and plugs for net running

[astral burrow]

V did say "the city looked different" after seeing Johnny's memories

[arctic talon]

It did

2020 was a lot less developed

[astral burrow]

I don't think johnny ever commented on how much the city changed

Just complained about arasaka still kicking

Anyway real michiko in the new cyberpunk game pls

And more romance options, thanks

[arctic talon]

I want the corporations to be scarier

Tbh

[astral burrow]

Let me romance a corpo, man

I wanna live the syril life

[arctic talon]

More weapons

[umbral kraken]

they should add Rebecca

[astral burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-andor-syril-karn-squint-suspicious-confused-gif-15041852279732204433

[astral burrow]

Engram

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-rebecca-cyberpunk-adam-smasher-youre-ruining-our-moment-here-smash-gif-26854687

[astral burrow]

My guy lined up the barrels of the guns just to get aura

[umbral kraken]

[arctic talon]

A big part of cyberpunk is aura farming

You need to do things with style

Can’t just slaughter everyone and make it boring

[umbral kraken]

I wonder how far the guy from kikokugai would get in cp. then I realize no one knows what that is

[opaque coyote]

Tbf they usually attack me first

Literally I'm trying to fucking walk. Why are you attacking me without warning

Now I have to murder all of you

[arctic talon]

Me when the gang opens fire on me

[opaque coyote]

Seriously though, they don't even shout warnings which is weird

Unless if I didn't notice

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

They want to kill your ass

Lol

[astral burrow]

No amount of implant can fix this hairline

I will look actually handsome in the next game, and rizz up the baddie they add, trust

[opaque coyote]

I mean Elon's hairline was somehow fixed with surgery

So I'm sure his can

[astral burrow]

I don't wanna fix it

I love my joker hairline

[opaque coyote]

Fair

[astral burrow]

My Jude law hairline

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

I want a totally unstable cyber psycho

As a romancable person next game

[opaque coyote]

How would that even work

[astral burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jod-skeleton-crew-you-know-what-just-shoot-me-skeleton-crew-jod-na-nawood-jod-gif-18131404594268725700

[astral burrow]

Masochist

I want a corpo

Just add michiko, man

Real michiko

Not that fraud

[opaque coyote]

You almost get one but it's just a quick fuck

Not really a long relationship

[astral burrow]

A real ugly one

And you are the one getting fucked there

No thanks

[sly ivy]

Wow u guys r really into this dorky game

Maybe I should check it out

[opaque coyote]

Eh. She looks fine.

I like Judy. Although I wonder how she's so naive despite literally scrolling through Brain Dances

[astral burrow]

It is a run game

[astral burrow]

Hope prevails

[opaque coyote]

It's pretty neat all things considered

[astral burrow]

I like no one besides songbird

[sly ivy]

Are you guys talking about the video game or is it like a ttrpg too

[opaque coyote]

True and she does so e what learn

[astral burrow]

Game

[opaque coyote]

Video game mainly but the game is based on the TTRPG

[umbral kraken]

I wanna play as an MC who must save his little sister from corpo or gang shenanigans (she either got hooked up to a computer or is an ai thing now)

[opaque coyote]

Ah yes the Fallout route

[astral burrow]

So that one mission where you save alt from arasaka tower

[opaque coyote]

"WHERE IS MY SON. WHERE IS SHAUN??"

Honestly I always thought Fallout 3's opening actually had more of an interesting idea.

It's probably too similar to 1 and technically 2.

But I always thought that maybe being the last survivor of an experimental vault would've been interesting

[astral burrow]

Rita wheeler romance pls

[opaque coyote]

With the Vault experiment depending on what perks you want

[astral burrow]

Isn't that what happens in 4

What was the experiment in 3 again?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah but it has the fucking baby attached to it and that's lameee

[opaque coyote]

Staying in the vault forever

Generally I just kinda wish we get to choose what type of fucked up experiment we go through

It'd be a nice way for character customization, backstory, and perks

[astral burrow]

Add a romancable, white haired character with full black eyes please

[arctic talon]

Someone with horrific mood swings

Except you know

[astral burrow]

That's dumb

[arctic talon]

The mood swings usually end up with someone dead

Lol

I don’t need a total cyber psycho

[opaque coyote]

Makes sense considering the experiments were partially for space colonization

[arctic talon]

Just getting there

[opaque coyote]

Would be interesting if they were actually a good person. At least before

The problem is that they just so happen to be turning insane due to the chrome

[arctic talon]

I don’t need them to be good

Either lol

[opaque coyote]

I know

Just thinking

[arctic talon]

But yes

[astral burrow]

Wolf is freaky

I wanna date a trauma team medtech

Like the one in the comic

[opaque coyote]

You have to convince them to lessen their chrome for their good ending. But as a result, they become less powerful in combat.

...if Cyberpunk ever does companions that follow you

Basically trading in a game benefit for a story one

To make you actually think

[arctic talon]

I’m surprised none of the romance partners follow you

Though I suppose the only 2 built for that properly are River and Panam

Judy is a techie if she is a specialization at all

[opaque coyote]

I think the only game (off the top of my head) that really has you make like

Permanent game defining choices is Lisa the Painful.

Basically in some important story beats you're forced into a dilemma.

One of them is literally

Either cutting off your arm, permanently debuffing you, making you unable to use combos.

Or killing your entire party permanently. Forcing you to be partyless until you can recruit more.

Or you can choose to fight back, but because you're like three people against 30.

Both happen to you.

[astral burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-cyberpunk-2077-songbird-gif-725110867171864339

[storm jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1366882068960641185/1381064639088955392/Untitled_Project_V42.gif

[astral burrow]

She is so gorgeous I smile subconsciously whenever I save her

[astral burrow]

Peak game

[umbral kraken]

do the seams on their face mean anything? like, do more expensive faces not have them? is it a deliberate style choice by the character?

[astral burrow]

It is smth EMP related

https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/EMP_Threading

[umbral kraken]

[median star]

i should kill her on my next run

[astral burrow]

I should kill you

[sacred bluff]

wait a minute

[median star]

you could try

[sacred bluff]

wrong server

[sly ivy]

I love this channel lmao

[elder oak]

The emperor is an entity of the warp. Prove me wrong. You can't. I win.

[opaque coyote]

What game

[languid meadow]

ILL