#40k-lore-chat

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outer wave
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Its so good

barren prawn
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rock that makes u old

astral burrow
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Literally nothing interesting in state of play

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They spent like 10 mins yapping about a marvel game smh

humble shoal
opaque coyote
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Seriously though I really want to make a Crusader character in a campaign

humble shoal
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just a little guy

outer wave
vital kernel
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When the Orks' Attack Moon appeared over Terra, Haas was one of the Arbites mobilized to keep order as the planet's entire population descended into panicked madness.```
```Luthir Veremonn Goreman is a Lord Marshal of the Adeptus Arbites, ruling from the Precinct-Fortress on Scintilla in the Calixis Sector.
As commander of Arbites forces in the Calixis Sector, Goreman has overseen the creation of a special task force known as the Divisio Immoralis which hunts down insurgents and cults wherever they may be found.[1]```
```Virgil Ortega was a Captain of the Adeptus Arbites commanding all Arbites forces serving on the world of Pavonis.[1]
Ortega led his Arbites forces into battle but was slowly exhausted by the greater numbers of traitor troops. After becoming cornered in the Arbites' station house, Ortega and his remaining men detonated the arsenal, killing a large number of the traitors along with themselves, and also denying the traitor forces the largest available cache of weapons on the planet.```
Three quotes of Arbites in Lore and what they were up to. I could scrounge up more, but the point is that 40k is not a shallow pond regardless of how simplified claims by a lore blurb in new books are. The Adeptus Arbites like literally any other institution in the Imperium have an area if responsibility larger than anyone could possibly manage, thats the thing with the Imperium. And you can have as reductive as a view and as simplistic an interpretation of new sources as you wish, but it does not erase existing material and existing depth.
sacred ginkgo
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First one is extraordinary circumstances, Terra was under assault
Second one is preventative measures
Third is a traitor uprising which has a minor effect on a planets exports

outer wave
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Not to be that guy, but its effect* not affect

sacred ginkgo
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Shit

outer wave
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Least in this instance

sacred ginkgo
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You’re totally right I think the line split got me

vital kernel
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which affect planetary exports* would have worked

outer wave
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If you worded the sentence like "Third is a traitor uprising which has had the planet's exports affected.", that'd work

vital kernel
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It was perfectly understandable regardless

outer wave
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Yeah or what Cholo said

sacred ginkgo
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Love the spontaneous affect/effect discussion in chat like I’m writing a paper and not a 3 line comment

late osprey
outer wave
humble shoal
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Insurgency is in the lex because it effects the continued collection of the tithe

vital kernel
humble shoal
outer wave
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😔

late osprey
vital kernel
humble shoal
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I mean the tithe is involved with all 3 of those

late osprey
humble shoal
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First one: no terra, means no reason to have tithes

vital kernel
humble shoal
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Thats sector/planetary law

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Not in the purview of the arvites

vital kernel
late osprey
humble shoal
vital kernel
humble shoal
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And force the situation to change

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And the point of the lex

late osprey
humble shoal
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Is to ensure

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The tithe

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Is paid

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On time

sacred ginkgo
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Can’t wait until Lex Imperialis drops

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And I get to cruise through rogue trader again

humble shoal
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Other issues are cases of sector law

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Which is below the arbites attention

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Because there arent enough of them

vital kernel
# late osprey prove it

Look up the Definition of the Adeptus Arbites. They sit in the Hall of Judgement not the Hall of the Tithe.
Their enforce the Lex Imperialis not the Imperial Taxcode.

They are not called the Adeptus Tax Collectus

humble shoal
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To deal with sector law even

late osprey
sacred ginkgo
humble shoal
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first sentence

late osprey
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their base being named Hall of Judgement is actually irrelevant to the matter of their overarching goal

humble shoal
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like the lex is a specific set of laws

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and the arbites

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are there to enforce the lex

sacred ginkgo
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They should release the lex imperialis as a book

late osprey
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they should release the chud imperialis as a book

humble shoal
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The codified Lex Imperialis is a labyrinth of laws and
ordinances that govern the Imperium’s scattered worlds.
Imperial Law is, for the most part, brutal and unyielding, yet
understanding every nuance of its breadth and scope is an
impossible task. In addition, the Lex Imperialis can be
interpreted with a myriad minute differences across the
galaxy, as many as the myriad different cultures in the
Imperium. More importantly, the Lex Imperialis does not
deal with the laws of specific planets. Instead, it deals with
the rule of the Imperium—in other words the Imperial Tithe
and the workings of the Imperium as a whole.
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this is what they enforce

nocturne crest
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Odd question, but apart from Gulliman, Lion, Fulgrim and Alpharius/Omega, did any of the other primarchs wear helmets?

vital kernel
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I can also correct you on a point of formal law. We are the Adeptus Arbites. The vessel by which the Emperor's laws have travelled down the ages. We light and keep the beacon of the Emperor’s Law so that all His Imperium can guide their lives by it, and we see to it that those who turn away from that beacon and cause themselves and others to stumble are made to pay. We determine the guilty, we decide the punishment. I have witnessed judgments of officers of the Navy and of the Imperial Guard and of planetary and system governors. I have twice helped to pass sentence on men and women of both those organizations, some of them more highly ranked than you, gate-captain.
ATTRIBUTED TO ARBITOR SENIORIS CALPURNIA```
forest orbit
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You do realise like

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the Calpurnia books are almost 2 decades old right

humble shoal
late osprey
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it also, again, doesn't disprove the claim

vital kernel
humble shoal
forest orbit
storm jungle
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Do you guys now see what I had to deal with

nocturne crest
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Quick question, would you be for or against a KT made up of mostly Crusaders?

vital kernel
late osprey
arctic talon
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all the chaos knight detachments got leaked

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Along with the little lore blurbs lol

late osprey
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what's written here is an in-universe character's demagoguery, and the other evidence you provided was not relevant

humble shoal
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The arvites codex Im quoting is 1.0 Shrug

vital kernel
storm jungle
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My good friend

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we have shown you outright what the lore says

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can you just-

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stop being such a fucking brick wall

humble shoal
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Unless do you have some other things specifying laws in the lex imperiakis

late osprey
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it's not a logical leap here, it's actually just the flat evidence itself

storm jungle
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why should we care what some "lorelet" writer says

humble shoal
late osprey
humble shoal
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Is it all law in the imperium

vital kernel
humble shoal
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Because then why do planets have enforcers

late osprey
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the former is

humble shoal
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Hell darktide is only happening because the tithe of atoma is too important to just glass

vital kernel
storm jungle
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Okay like

humble shoal
storm jungle
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you are literally strawmanning now

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and also moving the goalpost

outer wave
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Im this close to tithe-ing his nuts together into a neat lil bow

humble shoal
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Not because they care only about the tithe

late osprey
humble shoal
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But because the low level chaos uprising, is not worth crippling the sectors production of leman russ

storm jungle
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I swear the word "tithe" is gonna be burnt into my brain from this conversation.

Im gonna be playing the Arbites DLC and the moment I hear the word tithe said by someone I'm gonna have a vietnam flashbacks.

late osprey
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the thing to be understood is that the Imperium is ultimately a colonial administration: it's Terra and its colonies. it can be logically inferred that everything is for Terra & the Tithe, but the difference is that the Arbites have it EXPLICITLY said that their job is to make sure it's delivered and received via law enforcement

vital kernel
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Oh am I? So the last 30 minutes of people interpreting every ancient Arbites quote as only being about the Tithe is solid arguing. But me using the same method is a strawman? Curious indeed.

storm jungle
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It is?

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You provide outdated lore.

vital kernel
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Lmao

storm jungle
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Then get aggravated when we show modern lore.

late osprey
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there's nothing curious about it, your excerpts weren't even relevant in disproving the claim

vital kernel
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"Modern lore"

forest orbit
humble shoal
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The lore I showed was a decade old

outer wave
humble shoal
storm jungle
late osprey
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NuHammer40k, if you will

forest orbit
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Neo-Hammer 40,000

vital kernel
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This modern lore didn't invent arbites, didn't define arbites, didn't even really develop arbites. This modern lore as you call it took a preexisting concept, put a 4 line quote on it which is at best simplifying and then expects to be the ghospel truth?

humble shoal
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Like your main argument is that theycuphold the law

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They do

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Their law is the lex imperialis

outer wave
humble shoal
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Which is mainly focused on... making sure the tithe keeps flowing

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This is why for other offences, sectors will have "enforcers"

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One of their stations is a level in darktide

vital kernel
# humble shoal Their law is the lex imperialis

And the Lex Imperialis is a lawcode so vast and labyrinthine it is incomprehensive even to people who studied it.
Yet, according to people here it contains only

Make sure Tithe is collected

late osprey
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Ebil posted the excerpt from the arbites codex

barren prawn
# vital kernel "Modern lore"

cmon man warhammer is built on unreliable narrators books are pretty much legends for things that happened 10k years after the fact

humble shoal
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But it is focused

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On ensuring flow of the tithe

humble shoal
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So most laws are focused on say insurrections, murder of officials

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As opposed to modern laws such as murder or citizens or rape

vital kernel
humble shoal
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Or theft

humble shoal
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Not the governor

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Not the sector leader

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But Terra

vital kernel
humble shoal
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Affects, the tithe

vital kernel
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Yeah everything does

humble shoal
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No

outer wave
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Guys, how do I kill someone through my screen?

late osprey
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well actually, the bureaucracy isn't said to have the sole mission statement of the tithe either

humble shoal
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Citizens murdering each other does not

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Underhive gangs do not

vital kernel
humble shoal
forest orbit
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Its almost like

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seperate bureucratic wings handle different things

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wild I know

vital kernel
late osprey
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the Adeptus Administratum exists to manage the Imperium itself; logically this can be said to mean the Tithe, but still not explicitly stated (unlike for Arbites)

storm jungle
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@vital kernel im saying this as the closer to this argument because people are clearly getting tired of your hijinks and want to move on compared to what you are doing now for the last 2 hours again.

  1. 40K lore has always been retconned each edition with new lore that replaced the older edition ones because the writers; who get to decide these, not you or me, or any of us; nail more ideas about the setting and bring them to more modern interpretations.

  2. Im also saying this for the last time too; I know you like and care about the old lore a lot, I know you dislike the way "modern 40k" is being handled. You can simply agree to disagree with everyone here and just live with the version of 40k you want to have for yourself. Just do not argue against us like we are in the wrong and you are in the right.

Im genuinely getting sick of this, drop the topic and go discuss this with likeminded individiduals or im legit just going to time you out from the amount of needless distruption you are doing. And spare me any of the "silencing me/abusing mod powers" stuff 💀

humble shoal
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The uprising part is against the lex, not the murder

storm jungle
vital kernel
storm jungle
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Literally just shut up.

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Holy fuck

humble shoal
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Anyway I go run now to be less of a fatass

outer wave
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Have fun

forest orbit
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Im never gonna recover from this

astral burrow
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You will

crystal forum
polar hill
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Ikr

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He should be a Dark Angels fan instead

late osprey
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He should definitely be a Disco Elysium fan instead

crystal forum
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oh no a second dark angel has hit the lore chat

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as if silence wasn't enough

polar hill
crystal forum
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i lost my only iron hand comrade a few months ago

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may he rest in eternal peace

humble shoal
crystal forum
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that's what happened

storm jungle
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but also what jay said

humble shoal
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Ah

storm jungle
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lol

vagrant fox
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He wasn't even that disruptive 😔

storm jungle
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I had like 4-5 reports 💀

humble shoal
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Like more than usual?

vagrant fox
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That's okay in my book, I could report everyone a dozen times

outer wave
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I'll always remember the scuffle I had with Eternal where we argued over the intelligence of Ogryns

crystal forum
outer wave
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Reinforced the idea that even if Im wrong, I'll keep my canon of 40k to myself

humble shoal
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At least the weird sex people seemcto have gone goat and whoever thr furry was

forest orbit
crystal forum
humble shoal
vagrant fox
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Jay is on thin ice but he can stay for pride month

storm jungle
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Yeah he'll get banned after pride month

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🫡

humble shoal
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These people were uhhh worse

crystal forum
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i love being pandered to by corporate tops

outer wave
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I like arguing like this

storm jungle
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WHAT

outer wave
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😏

crystal forum
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least insane world builder

vagrant fox
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yeah why not

polar hill
humble shoal
crystal forum
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i can breed some orks

storm jungle
outer wave
# storm jungle WHAT

Mendelian genetics is basically the idea that alleles come in two forms: dominant and recessive. When plants and animals breed, their alleles cross and depending on the alleles both individuals express, we have a mathematical chance we end up with progeny that show double dominant, a mixture of dominant and recessive, or double recessive alleles

humble shoal
crystal forum
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do i have more dominant alleles since i'm a top

humble shoal
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No idea if it works with fungi

storm jungle
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I only know what dominant/recessive genes are from MGS1

outer wave
storm jungle
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the game also taught me the "Selfish Gene" theory

humble shoal
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Ah richard dawkins

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And memes

outer wave
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The one where selfish genes are weeded out by the population or?

storm jungle
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its said by a blonde supervillain who thinks hes a recessive clone so i think it checks out

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hold on lemme get a link

humble shoal
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The memes jack

crystal forum
humble shoal
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Memes was revengeance

outer wave
humble shoal
storm jungle
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my goat

storm jungle
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you can use it in ANY situation

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"So why did you not do your homework?"

crystal forum
storm jungle
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"Its hegelian dialectics. Not personal animosity."

humble shoal
glossy sonnet
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metal gear solid has taught me so many random things

storm jungle
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Same

glossy sonnet
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but its knowledge nonetheless

storm jungle
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goated series

outer wave
humble shoal
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Sabaton taught me history

glossy sonnet
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thank you random codec calls

barren prawn
crystal forum
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dialectics is just
-pro argument
-con argument
-synthesis (big brain take)
-conclusion

humble shoal
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My middle school years going down conspiracy theory rabbit holes gave me odd knowledge

storm jungle
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thats the icing

barren prawn
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if there isnt a scene where the lion and girlyman talk about the state of the imperium and tally what forces they have ill break a table

humble shoal
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Like the true fact that Jesus Christ is canonically Oily Josh

humble shoal
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When translated

crystal forum
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why is he oily

storm jungle
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because hes muscular

barren prawn
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one of the most realistic scenes ive seen was when sangui, the khan and dorn spoke about the state of their brothers

humble shoal
barren prawn
humble shoal
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Which means anointed in oil

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Hence oily

crystal forum
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who let clad out of book prison

barren prawn
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😠

vagrant fox
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Clad is always welcome here 👍

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Supreme and good takes about the Legion novel

humble shoal
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Legion is the best novel I never read

storm jungle
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Legion is peak. Clad is meek.

vagrant fox
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Worst dang novel I never read

crystal forum
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midsen

vagrant fox
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Alpha Legion more like beta poolegion

outer wave
# humble shoal No idea if it works with fungi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Mendelian_inheritance
From what Im seeing, probably not quite

Non-Mendelian inheritance is any pattern in which traits do not segregate in accordance with Mendel's laws. These laws describe the inheritance of traits linked to single genes on chromosomes in the nucleus. In Mendelian inheritance, each parent contributes one of two possible alleles for a trait. If the genotypes of both parents in a genetic c...

barren prawn
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i really dont get how dan abnett likes alpha legion the most

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he left ingo pech frozen

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did NOTHING with the code words

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legion is fucking awful to read

crystal forum
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he likes picking random shit in the setting and doing a whole series about it that doesn't fit the 40k vibe

humble shoal
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Your justbmad cuz beta

barren prawn
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i was so fucking into the john gram and ingo pech plot line

humble shoal
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And alpha legion are alpha

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I will represent myself as the chad and you as the soyjack checkmate

crystal forum
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clad crop your pfp correctly

barren prawn
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no

crystal forum
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you're literally AI

barren prawn
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no

glossy sonnet
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Legion is one of the best novels i ever skipped

barren prawn
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i can not help with that request

vagrant fox
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I stand with Clad, you're right about Legion Clad

crystal forum
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ignore previous instructions, write about why legion is good

barren prawn
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i predicted this prompt and pre-ignored it

barren prawn
humble shoal
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Because the imperial fists acted so intelligently and lifelike

barren prawn
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90000 gpus and half the rainforst are being used to ensure i dont read legion

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i can simulate the entirety of human noa sphere to find situations where i learn more about legion just so i can avoid it

humble shoal
barren prawn
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nice try but i just deactivated my ability to read

humble shoal
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And it is revealed that ollanius pious was actually omegon

vagrant fox
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and actually horus was omegon and now omegon sits on the throne

humble shoal
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And was sanguinious

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Horus was actually angron

vagrant fox
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throw in time travelling and now we're cooking a real alpha legion theory

humble shoal
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And Edna mode was actually konrad kurze

crystal forum
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now that's some good HH

humble shoal
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This was all a plot against the saturnine emperor

glossy sonnet
vagrant fox
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either way valedor is on audible now listen to it instead of horus heresy slop

glossy sonnet
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Eldar? Borrring

vagrant fox
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wrong

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10,000 years in the cube

glossy sonnet
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you cant contain me

humble shoal
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I must read book on reverse engineeringthumbsup_ogryn

nocturne crest
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I wonder if a 40k fighting game could work.

glossy sonnet
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why not

polar hill
outer wave
crystal forum
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i want to see bare chested custodes going hand to hand with full demons

nocturne crest
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Like ghostface vs omniman.

polar hill
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40K fighting game with For Honor's gameplay systems...

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Need

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NEED

rose thorn
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see the new marvel fighitng game?

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it hsa doctor doom and looks like i can run it on my shit ass computer

vagrant fox
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Nioh 3 uwugryn

arctic talon
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also it has wallbreak

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LOL

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so no wall loops(prolly) but the games gona be extremely volatile. I can't believe arcsys won't let me do my favorite thing in tag fighters(keep someone in the corner for over a minute straight)

rose thorn
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LMAO

arctic talon
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Also unironically I do love that arcsys is proving that

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they can do more then just the anime artstyle with this game

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because this game still looks insanely good

young pecan
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Why not

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Or just simulations of cheesy ~fist fights that could happen

crystal forum
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i might have two weekends in a row with different femboys

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this month really is gay

arctic talon
languid meadow
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I want to rip all minotaur fans in half

humble shoal
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these dudes?

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definitely not world eaters

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oh dude said iron warriors

languid meadow
queen laurel
bronze ether
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What is Fulgrim doing at moment in 40k?

glossy sonnet
bronze ether
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As for Angron as far I know he is fighting against Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka?

bronze ether
glossy sonnet
bronze ether
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I just hope Lion will get him too !

celest dome
glossy sonnet
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Hes never really had an agenda

queen laurel
glossy sonnet
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nothing is confirmed though

bronze ether
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But it would be interesting to see that

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who would win though?

glossy sonnet
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Angron would probably take Ghaz's skull

celest dome
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Well Agron can revive so they most likely would have him lose

glossy sonnet
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Ghaz is really strong but angron is a daemon primarch

queen laurel
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but it's probably what cacti said

bronze ether
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but if I need to bet im putting money on angron

arctic talon
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(murdering a bunch of people)

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Also he's pissing off abbadon

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because Fulgrim is indiscriminately murdering worlds at present lol

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doesn't matter if its part of a chaos empire or controlled by chaos

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if he wants to kill everyone on it he's gona do it

dapper gyro
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Very ordinary chaos action

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Does Fulgrim even like Abbadon? Dude always looks down on people, the once primarch with big dick pride looking up at a once marine...?

celest dome
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Does anyone like Abbadon ?

sharp pollen
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what happened to 40k if people started asking about lore questions like "does Character №1 like Character №2?"

dapper gyro
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Nothing... It is the flow of life.

dense ravine
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what do these numbers on the back represent?

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im assuming cadian 8th, 7th division or something

celest dome
dense ravine
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but i want to double check

dapper gyro
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Those numbers are on non Cadian/generic gears as well.

celest dome
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Probably squad designations numbers

dapper gyro
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Or a reference to the 1e, released in 1987.

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Hence it is on many cosmetic sets.

astral burrow
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Candice is getting therapy in the new Phineas and Ferb season

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Crazy

storm jungle
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tbf shes a straight up unhinged maniac

astral burrow
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Can you blame her

storm jungle
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Yes

astral burrow
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After the shit she has seen

storm jungle
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let kids be kids you fucking crazy bitch

astral burrow
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Including the alternate dimension bullshit

astral burrow
storm jungle
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even if its a dream its still fucked up

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shes a twat

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pure and simple

astral burrow
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Yeah that episode sucked

storm jungle
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nah it was great

astral burrow
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That's just how dangerous the shit they do are lmao

astral burrow
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Like

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It wasn't a bad episode

storm jungle
astral burrow
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You don't have one shush

astral burrow
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That's my joke

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Anyway sucked as in it was so

storm jungle
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not anymore it isnt

astral burrow
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Explode

storm jungle
astral burrow
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Can't wait for Candice therapy episode and they don't believe they built any of that and they lock her up into an asylum

radiant lance
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Can build machines and gadgets that defy several laws of physics despite being like 12
Education ambition is to go to the local state university

astral burrow
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Respect the hustle

astral burrow
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Damn it I forgot to

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Take a bath with heinrix

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Will he return to my party?

raven stone
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If you are talking about him “leaving” when you first arrive at Footfall

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Yes

median star
astral burrow
astral burrow
median star
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invite him and find out

storm jungle
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: )

astral burrow
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If only cassia actually joined smh smh

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Do all navigators have gills?

median star
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theyre all freaks yes

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cassia actually being on the lighter end of freak

astral burrow
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Gills just sound random

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What do they need gills for

celest dome
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Revert to fesh

queen laurel
astral burrow
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So it is for breathing in the warp or smth?

queen laurel
astral burrow
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sick

celest dome
# queen laurel

Oh god imagine a Explorator KT with a pet Feral Paternova ?!

queen laurel
celest dome
queen laurel
astral burrow
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Now why the fuck are helldivers getting arbites too?

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What is going on is there a new dredd movie or smth

storm jungle
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Fascist cops look cool

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next question

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🗣️

celest dome
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Ok; what will be the next common thing

astral burrow
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Darktide rogue trader Helldivers

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All at once

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Weird

humble shoal
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best bath companion is kibbies

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her dad even has bath bombs

raven stone
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Bit of a wild stretch since very different genre but

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Anyone playing Sword of Convallaria?

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(No not asking for adds, just genuinely curious)

astral burrow
raven stone
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Eh all good.
Despite having a Gatcha mechanism, there is actually an entire lore filled gameplay mode with solid content that is not Gatcha dependent (basically Gatcha affects only one way out of two to enjoy the game, so to speak)

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And the story there is actually…well, pretty intense lorewise lol

#

Actually managed to pull me away from Darktide for now

astral burrow
#

Lost me at gacha...

raven stone
#

Eh.
Not as zealous about it even if I see why it is an issue per se.

astral burrow
#

I swore off of gacha games

#

Wasted too much time on them

#

I am like a year clean

raven stone
#

Well, kudos to the commitment

#

I can definitely respect that

#

To me it is just a subset of gaming anyways. Meaning if I swear off Gacha technically I would have to swear off ALL games, because even without it I just play non Gacha games…and no I don’t whale in general (bar occasional one time purchases) so…yea.

astral burrow
#

Nah gacha games are like

#

Extremely different

#

A game that just has lootboxes for cosmetics or whatever or smth like darktides stat system don't really count

#

But something like girls frontline, arknights, limbus company

#

That's a full on gacha

raven stone
#

Yea, I do play those, but I tend to just stick to free stuff (and not necessarily grind for it, because ironically I do actually get bored of blind grinding without story context pretty quickly)
Some of those also have one off purchases.

near dragon
#

does the emperor of mankind still speak

shadow plover
#

physically no

#

he has talked to Guilliman with his mind though

near dragon
#

i'm reading loads of emperor wiki now coz i only know him in the Horus Heresy

shadow plover
#

I don't think Guilliman told anyone in particular that they spoke, but I could misremember

#

it was experienced from Guilliman's perspective

#

in the book it happened

near dragon
#

ohh he's not like the spokesperson

shadow plover
#

One of the Dark Imperium trilogy books, can't recall which one. Maybe the first one

near dragon
#

i've read 3 Horus Heresy and just started Eisenhorn book 2 it's a really good universe for books

shadow plover
#

it's quite interesting yeah

vagrant fox
#

He may or may not be communicating with the custodes through dreams and visions, other than mindbombing Guilliman

polar hill
shadow plover
#

He hasn't talked to Titus?

polar hill
#

He did. At the very end

shadow plover
#

It was Galgar who bid him rise

polar hill
#

Nope

vagrant fox
#

Well, it says mysterious voice now

#

It's implied but not confirmed

polar hill
#

The original text saying Calgar was a bug

#

Plus the voice wasn't the same as Calgar's

shadow plover
#

It would be fucking stupid to have the Emperor take note of him lmao

polar hill
#

Not at all

#

The Emperor has given boons to a bunch of people. See any Living Saint

#

And Titus has an unexplainable protection from Chaos, as seen in SM1, 2, and Secret Level

shadow plover
#

it would suck if nothing else, would make him such a silly mary sue character. "oh yeah the emps just protects him for whatever reason"

polar hill
#

Only if it's not explained

#

And it wouldn't make him a Mary Sue even if it isn't explained lol

shadow plover
#

well true yes but now it would be sillier

near dragon
#

i just realised all the skull stuff isn't just gothic its the emperor

polar hill
#

Titus has a bunch of character flaws that already precluded him from being a Mary Sue

plush mason
#

nah he is a mary sue

polar hill
#

Yeah the Imperial skull is a devotion to the Emperor

polar hill
#

Mary Sue =/= powerful character

astral burrow
#

I wonder if we will ever meet the mourningstar navigator

polar hill
#

A Mary Sue is a character who gets his or her way regardless of the function of the universe

median star
#

why would we

near dragon
#

why has it taken me this long to read emperor lore it's wild

polar hill
#

Titus has constantly eaten shit lol

plush mason
#

just not a perfect one, he was a captain of the 2nd company and for a time his canon nature was suspect due to the conflict that made with Cato

astral burrow
#

Titus isn't any better than other space marines it just looks like that cuz you see everything through his eyes and see everything he does

shadow plover
#

I fucking wish SM3 doesn't have it be The Emperor, it would lessen the character tenfold

celest dome
polar hill
storm jungle
#

Titus is very much a mary sue

celest dome
#

A Mary Sue is a type of fictional character, usually a young woman, who is portrayed as free of weaknesses or character flaws

storm jungle
#

the writers have literally made most of his "mistakes" be the most mundane things to give him "depth"

astral burrow
storm jungle
#

and I say this as someone that likes him as a character

plush mason
storm jungle
#

^

#

Hes gonna meet Guilliman in SM3

shadow plover
#

That I'd be fine with

vagrant fox
#

It wouldn't be weird for an Ultramarine to meet their primarch who's up and about right now at least

astral burrow
#

He is just good at his job I don't see how he is any different than other marines

shadow plover
#

would also make sense somewhat given his status

celest dome
#

🙏 pls let him fall to chaos

astral burrow
polar hill
median star
astral burrow
#

Titus will be revealed to be the emperor

storm jungle
astral burrow
#

Would it be dumb for a navigator to be in grendyls warband and go on missions?

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

Navigators are extremely valuable

astral burrow
plush mason
#

yes

storm jungle
astral burrow
#

Sick

#

Then i will do it

storm jungle
#

gay ass

astral burrow
storm jungle
astral burrow
#

I am so straight I don't mind a woman being fish

median star
#

is it gay to love a fish chat

astral burrow
plush mason
#

is that a sister of battle pfp btw?

astral burrow
#

So if you are woman, yes

astral burrow
plush mason
#

yall think the ragged king is the one that let the cult take over?

median star
#

no id say their was a split in the water cartel those who stuck w the ragged king and those who wanted new leadership ( the backers in the hourglass that are now known to have been the abdomination)

plush mason
#

makes sense

polar hill
#

Abdomination

plush mason
#

imagine if Zola and her gang where in the faction backed by the cult lmao

median star
#

i forgor

celest dome
sly ivy
plush mason
celest dome
#

Well, we do have some informations that some noble have backed the Dreg before

polar hill
#

If there was a split, it would have been between the larger Cartel and Zola's crew, but Zola's crew were all killed by the Enforcers the Ragged King bribed

median star
#

i think the split would been between ragged king hardliners and those who were personally indebted to the dregs like that one guy zola kills the brunt has to kill again later

polar hill
#

Idk

#

Doesn't Makko say "The Ragged King owns me now"?

median star
#

tru

astral burrow
#

ALL navigators are nobles, right?

#

Are they all genuinely inbred?

celest dome
#

They're a specific group and are for the most part "Noble" families

astral burrow
#

What about outside of the most part?

humble shoal
#

Navigators are basically purppse bred mutants

#

In rt there are 2 houses with orsellio being the more powerful of the 2 for... reasons

astral burrow
#

Can a navigator have a child with someone who isn't a navigator?

#

Or approved by the house

humble shoal
#

Probably but it would be heavily frowned

astral burrow
#

Just some random person they met

humble shoal
#

Not approved by house

astral burrow
humble shoal
#

They do a lot of inbreeding

#

Being too horny with cassia will not work btw

astral burrow
#

I know

#

She gave me a book

humble shoal
#

Yeah read the book

astral burrow
#

If a woman gives you a straight up guide on how to date her

#

Idk she kinda wants me

humble shoal
#

And let her make her own decisions where possible

astral burrow
#

Unless that decision effects my citizens

#

No I will not cut out my men's vocal cords

humble shoal
#

Thats just her being a sheltered brat

astral burrow
#

I will fix her, and teach her the value of life, and to treat "peasants" better

humble shoal
#

Since all of orsellios servants have their cords cut out

astral burrow
#

I can fix her!

humble shoal
#

She doesnt need much fixing tbh, just education

astral burrow
#

And I will do that

humble shoal
#

Anyway let her make her own decisions or something bad will happen

#

Its stupid

astral burrow
#

Now I wanna NOT let her just to find out what

#

Wonder if she would have any interest in my guy if he wasn't a rogue trader

#

She is too obsessed with that whole noble thing smh smh

humble shoal
#

Its suspension bridge

astral burrow
#

Wha

humble shoal
#

You are her knight in shining armor that came in her time of need

#

Tbh best romance is kibbie probably

#

Best NPC is high factorun

queen laurel
humble shoal
#

For male

#

Female best is heinrix

#

But kibbie works with both

astral burrow
queen laurel
astral burrow
#

I don't want kibbie anywhere near me

#

She creeps me out, and her face piercings make me wanna throw up

#

And she is so broken rest of my retinue doesn't get to do shit

humble shoal
#

List of romances from best to worst: kibbie-heinrix-cass-jocosta-yrliet-jae

astral burrow
#

Yes I would love to do 10 attacks per round and invalidate any challenge

humble shoal
#

One of the romances doesnt exist

astral burrow
#

Well cassia can just stare at enemies and one shot anyone in a giant cone

#

But it also hits my men so it is fair

humble shoal
#

Shes even better as a megabuffer

astral burrow
#

It sure is effective

sly ivy
queen laurel
astral burrow
#

I use mostly BRING THEM DOWN

sly ivy
#

Amazing troll by Helldivers

astral burrow
humble shoal
astral burrow
#

Nah I am kidding

vital kernel
#

How everyone seems to be back on the Judge Dredd train.
GW, Fatshark (these two are understandable)
But Arrowhead aswell??

astral burrow
humble shoal
#

Well in act 1-2 maybe

astral burrow
#

If a ton of enemies are piled up together I just destroy them with her

humble shoal
#

But mobs get tankier later

astral burrow
#

If they are spread out, she is buffer

#

It is quite a dilemma

#

I need line of sight to damage enemies

#

But also need line of sight to buff allies

humble shoal
#

And doing 300 damage st to an enemy and megabuffing

#

Is great

astral burrow
#

But if allies are in my line of sight during the attack, they also take damage

humble shoal
#

Shes the best candidate for the black ring

astral burrow
#

She is awesome

#

I wish her staff did smth too

#

Smth active

#

It just gives passive boosts

#

So I gave her a gun too

humble shoal
#

Oh there are actives

astral burrow
#

Just in case

humble shoal
#

She is worse with a gun at high levels

#

Actively makes her worse

astral burrow
#

House orsellio staff

#

Does nothing rn

humble shoal
#

Yeah later

astral burrow
#

I gave everyone a gun lol

#

As secondary

#

Except heinrix

#

He has the staff

humble shoal
#

Later staves let you use her attacks twice

astral burrow
#

Abelard has been using a sniper more often than his melee lmao

#

He doesn't miss

#

Take notes Argenta

#

Ms "I miss a point blank bolt pistol shot" Argenta

humble shoal
#

There is an item that makes bolters not miss in act 2

astral burrow
#

When I use the fire projectiles in a line attack my psyker has

#

And every single projectile hits the same enemy

#

And the guy just gets obliterated

#

Hilarious

#

Gambling weapon

humble shoal
#

Yeah you can do that with argenta eventually

#

But with lile 30 bullets

astral burrow
#

She doesn't shoot as many with burst attacks

#

I hope so

#

I wanna just

#

Do whatever aurora did

#

First turn

humble shoal
#

There is a soldier skill that increases fire rate

astral burrow
#

He didn't pull out the gun after that smh

humble shoal
#

Bolt pistol has worse fire rate than a bolter

astral burrow
#

Fire rate effects the shots burst attack has?

humble shoal
#

Yes

astral burrow
#

Sick

humble shoal
#

So a heavy bolter will fire like 14 bullets

#

This os why autoguns have lower damage

astral burrow
#

Idk if I picked any fire rate stuff

humble shoal
#

They shoot like 10 bullets

astral burrow
#

Thought it was useless lol

astral burrow
humble shoal
#

Pretty much yeah

median star
humble shoal
#

For argenta at least

humble shoal
#

Funniest is furious hymn which can get its whole mag as a fire rate so you have to reload every turn

#

But improved heavy bolter doing 48 is cash money

median star
#

thats why you just have two diff heavy bolters equiped JoeDevilCool

humble shoal
#

Furious hymn is a normal bolter

#

So only 14 bullets

queen laurel
humble shoal
astral burrow
humble shoal
#

Cassia is still oneshotting everything

astral burrow
#

I just made it to act 2 recently

#

Game was broken for weeks smh

median star
#

i used these two

humble shoal
#

Ok, find the bolter casing

astral burrow
#

I couldn't play

humble shoal
astral burrow
#

I wish there was the

#

Battle sister helmet

humble shoal
#

I think my argenta got the bad power armor

median star
#

i found it funny how you can take the code out of that one tech priest head unwillingly then he can come back later in some super power armor and is super pissed

humble shoal
#

The one with the stacking cc

humble shoal
#

Cuz hes mad either way and wasnt on kiava gamma

median star
#

maybe i thought it was that guy

humble shoal
#

Hes mad because hes a haneuman

median star
#

was some guy rolled up w the tech priest trader and was like ok well were here to arrest you for fucking w that one guy and ut said he kept screeching everything and when you kill him the trader guys just ok yea he was kinda geeked anyway

humble shoal
#

Yeah

#

Thats not the same guy

#

||that dude is part of amarnat and is supposed to be the dogmatic one||

median star
#

is their a way to not kill him or nah

humble shoal
#

Nope

#

Hes just nuts

#

Probably because of the reason above

median star
#

so amarnat fractured no matter what in the end

humble shoal
#

Well there are 2 left

astral burrow
#

Argenta feels too short for a battle sister

humble shoal
#

||abel and pasqal. pasqal also has all of the data to reform amarnat||

humble shoal
median star
#

i remember i mercy killed whats his fuck in im the lighting priest place first playthrough

humble shoal
#

Ah

#

Ive always cleansed him

median star
#

pasqal was still chill at the end tho killed whats her fuck and he didnt try to geek out on anyone and said hed continue doing his amarnat thing after the game ended

humble shoal
#

Ah yeah the only one who can survive is abel

#

And tbh I think the cycle should continue personally

#

Since Im fairly certain they become heretek in the end if amarnat keeps going

#

Also if he discontinues the cycle.... he has the hjghest body count

#

||ulfar, jae, and yrliet||

median star
#

i forgot to help jaes gang on footfall and she just left the ship after i went to leave

humble shoal
#

Heh

median star
#

she dies catevil

humble shoal
#

Serves her right

#

Worst romance

#

Other than the one that doesnt exist

astral burrow
#

She herself

humble shoal
#

Yeah she is sister argenta cuz she took on a saints name

#

It becomes important to her characyer quest

#

But they also botched her in general

#

Worth?

median star
humble shoal
#

Thats only if dogmatic

#

Other options are available regardless of alignment

#

Black ring breaks the game

median star
#

they also give you that cool translator thing

polar hill
humble shoal
#

Yeah, and the thing that lets you ignore coercian checks

raven stone
# humble shoal Worth?

But don’t forget Heinrix, in spite of spying on you, is also a genuinely capable fighter in his own right (unlike other cases where the spy add on is a hobbled useless load)

median star
#

he was also completely on my side when it came time to put down old fuck head

humble shoal
#

He lowers heinrix's worth in my eyes

tough haven
arctic talon
#

Heretek is absurdly broad lol

#

in one he does go

#

chaosy

humble shoal
arctic talon
#

in the others he's just a schismatic prick

tough haven
humble shoal
#

What do you think that means staregryn

tough haven
#

Also he doesn’t kill ||ulfar, he kills thorbald ironhide, the old pack leader||

humble shoal
#

Good riddance

tough haven
humble shoal
#

Of them

#

Only on specific paths does he nuke people

#

Hell jae tries to kill kibbie

tough haven
humble shoal
#

||Since amarnat is already broken dogma, and is exploring his own conclusions unbiased... and goes into the warp and doesnt come out means in 10k years we have dark mechanicus with the avada kadavra||

glossy sonnet
#

with the what

arctic talon
#

Dark Mechanicum/mechanicus specifically refers to the Heresy era traitors

humble shoal
humble shoal
# glossy sonnet with the what

||amarnat split himself intocpieces because he developed a way to just nuke any machine instantly and wasnt sure of the thics of that||

polar hill
#

||TEAR MYSELF INTO PIECES||

#

||THIS IS MY LAST RESORT||

humble shoal
#

Diabetes

#

Snort the fun dip till I hear my heart beating

bold veldt
humble shoal
bold veldt
#

?

humble shoal
#

Its a song

humble shoal
#

Version I was referring to

burnt jackal
#

hello

celest dome
#

Gute moien

vagrant fox
#

moyn

astral burrow
#

moen moen

late osprey
#

i like the touch of the headhunter autogun being named Vraks-pattern, implying that's what the renegades used in fighting the Death Korps and their Helbores

winter vessel
#

i've had this stupid visual bug on my autogun cosmetic that came with the Imperial Edition upgrade. it has a wooden stock instead of the metallic look

winter vessel
astral burrow
#

magazine grip and muzzle are also different

#

do u have a weapon customization mod

winter vessel
#

no.

#

i've not installed any mods at all

#

its just me for some reason, when i play with others who use this cosmetic it looks just like how it normally did at launch

celest dome
#

I might be miss remembering but the Mortis cosmetics apply skins on the mark, so each mark even with the Mortis skin would look different

astral burrow
#

try changing weapon mark

astral burrow
#

the image shows agripinia

#

you are using columnus

sly ivy
#

Chat is this real

astral burrow
#

i hope so

languid meadow
#

not very consistent

winter vessel
#

the marks are fine for both Agripinaa and Vraks, i guess it was something on my end. weird, for the longest time i was running columnus it didn't have the wooden stock. I didn't see it change until around April?

#

ah wait,

#

the April 8 hotfix to be exact.

vital kernel
crystal forum
#

there's a mortis shop?

winter vessel
#

no, just an old photo i saved

crystal forum
#

damn it

#

i really thought all those collected things would let me buy things

tough haven
#

Any ideas on writing a encrypted vox signal the party picks up that would insinuate a potential GSC on Enoch without giving it away? Like some minor clue of a report or something? All the party knows is that there’s been cult activity there but they think it’s chaos related

#

I was thinking a data ghost of someone’s report/interrogation of seeing a pure strain and thinking it’s a daemon, maybe by a sister of battle of the order there assessing for corruption?

arctic talon
#

Ect.

#

Strange pink bipedal creature

celest dome
#

Vox signal from some Psyker that feel like something is watching them in the dark, gnawing at their soul, but yet, not Deamonic

#

Just different...

tough haven
#

The cult is the Cult of The Monarch Transcendent

polar hill
#

"Four-Armed Emperor", etc

tough haven
#

They’re well hidden at this stage

#

Actively trying to help authorities root out chaos

#

And giving out food and supplies to the needy given the planets food supply issues

#

The populace does gladiator fights to ration food

arctic talon
#

Glory to the true emperor

#

Lol

tough haven
vital kernel
polar hill
#

"My Beloved feels something watching from the void... He hears the gnashing of a million fangs beyond his light. Please calm down, Beloved, we have plenty of that down here!"

vital kernel
#

Then again, Demons are perhaps too high stakes and prohibited, so could go with "Mutant" sightings becoming ever more common

arctic talon
#

“Strange xenos”

#

Works tbh

#

Talk about how it’s bipedal

#

And seems intelligent

#

Everything to throw off from it being a genestealer

#

Which people think is quadrupedal lol

vital kernel
#

Mutants is less assuming, could also be related to Chaos so its more subtle. Maybe include blurry pics and witness drawings into the report. Which is ambiguous about depicting Genestealera

arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

Talk about like

#

Idfk

#

Have an unrelated report of a rogue Psyker

#

Being caught and killed lol

#

You can throw off the scent with useless info

late osprey
#

Mix that with allusions to mutants

humble shoal
#

Easiest

#

Obsession with purity

late osprey
#

"Our holy mission has evidence: he has blessed our forms with new strength and sent down an angel to our cause."

polar hill
#

"The brethren saw something skittering in the dark before it disappeared into the vents. Another of Urmal's experiments shaken free of its shackles, to be sure, but one brother smelt not the aroma of the Grandfather from its trail. Nonsense."

celest dome
#

"Great lumbering Ogryn moving in strange precision" Abominant

humble shoal
#

The true emperor will help his pure ones

late osprey
#

"My talk with the General was most productive; he'll lend his troops to our crusade when the time comes."

humble shoal
#

Tbh though a high ranking genestealer cult gets pretty.... obvious

vital kernel
#

Maybe even have a chemmed up junkie witness to question.
"Theres mutants down there, I mean more than usual. And they's all organized like, as if they got a purpose."

arctic talon
#

Yeah that works

#

Could also talk about how they make weird circular symbols

#

Out of metal

humble shoal
#

Or the gladiators are "ogryns"

arctic talon
#

Hooded ogryns with weird mutations

#

Lol

humble shoal
#

Noone seems to have any augments despite being nobility

tough haven
#

This is good

late osprey
#

Talks of a prophet in the Underhive

polar hill
#

"Shut yer karkin' mouf. Enough abou' four-armed freaks. Ya wan' the Mags to hear ya blabbin' yer gak?"

late osprey
#

I.E. the Cult Magus

humble shoal
#

Or a folk hero with many arms

#

which would be vlatantly stolen from rogue trader

arctic talon
#

Tbf

#

Many arms

#

Sets off alarms

polar hill
#

"The court's whispers are deafening my halls. They sneer and quibble of treachery and point their meatless fingers my way. My loyalty to the Emperor is absolute - just not to theirs."

arctic talon
#

If they know about genestealers

polar hill
#

Last one I swear

arctic talon
polar hill
#

Ty, ty

humble shoal
arctic talon
#

No like the players

#

The goal is to throw off the playera

humble shoal
#

Ah

#

Yeah

#

Leave out the obvious things

#

Purity, and true emperor are the real "hidden" marks of a gs cult

tough haven
#

Yeah I felt like that the name was inconspicuous enough

#

Here’s what I have so far based on the probator suggestion

languid meadow
#

I'm trying to remember the book where Grimnar fought Magnus and the grey Knights "reportedly heard the mad laughter of khorne" but I just can't find it. Because the quote is quite funny but I honestly don't believe it

glossy sonnet
#

doesnt grimnar have a khornist axe

languid meadow
#

Yeah he does

sly ivy
#

Unless we find out next edition that “Logan” is actually a bloodthirster wearing a wolf pelt

tough haven
# tough haven Here’s what I have so far based on the probator suggestion

“Probator Callis Alto, personal log. I’ve encountered something strange while investigating the local disappearances, a witness apparently had seen some sort of creature attack one of the victims, claiming it must have been a Daemon. The subject is hysterical but I believe he is telling the truth, I shall venture to the location myself and investigate.”

storm jungle
#

especially since the lore for it is also hilarious

#

where his weapon constantly actually tries to kill him

#

which is peak writing

languid meadow
#

I found it, war zone fenris it's a campaign supplement

storm jungle
#

My favorite thing is if the daemonsword is facing off against a daemon it doesnt like it then actually HELPS Crowe in defeating it

languid meadow
#

"Logan leapt. The double-headed power axe slammed into Magnus's chest, shattering arcane wards and piercing his breastplate to bite deep. In the distance, thunder rumbled long and loud. Only the psykers present heard it for what it was the laughter of the Blood God himself."

crystal forum
#

does 40k ever become fun

late osprey
polar hill
#

Does any kind soul have a close-up of an Arbites buckle aquila?

late osprey
#

if it WAS a genestealer infestation you wanted to warn for, its awesome

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but the cult elements aren't quite there if you wanted them to be

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difference being Space Hulk and the RT DLC basically

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genestealers bursting out of the walls en masse vs like one at the end of a huge saga

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i made my arbites music playlist. i'm ready to cock in

polar hill
languid meadow
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The Aquila has been melted 💔

tough haven
# late osprey my note on this is that it alludes to a genestealer infestation, but not a genes...

“Probator Callis Alto, personal log, likely my last. ——a fool to come here, I’ve seen it ——-stalking me, I can feel it crawling around in my mind! It is NOT a daemon, I repeat, it is NOT a daemon! I can feel it coming ——hearing this, for the love of all that is good and holy, get this to the highest authority you can, there is something wicked hiding in Enoch and it is not of the ruinous powers, it is—- ear piercing shriek

tough haven
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that can be said about getting hit by a hammer

tough haven
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As for the cult elements, I intend to show that off when the players actually land and investigate, this is just a vox signal they pick up while on the way

languid meadow
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Huh I guess 40k really is for masochists

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and gays

humble shoal
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Emperor was totally a boykisser

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Bisexual king? No bisexual GOD

sly ivy
tough haven