#40k-lore-chat
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rock that makes u old
Literally nothing interesting in state of play
They spent like 10 mins yapping about a marvel game smh
Seriously though I really want to make a Crusader character in a campaign
Blackstone Fortress
This is a good one
When the Orks' Attack Moon appeared over Terra, Haas was one of the Arbites mobilized to keep order as the planet's entire population descended into panicked madness.```
```Luthir Veremonn Goreman is a Lord Marshal of the Adeptus Arbites, ruling from the Precinct-Fortress on Scintilla in the Calixis Sector.
As commander of Arbites forces in the Calixis Sector, Goreman has overseen the creation of a special task force known as the Divisio Immoralis which hunts down insurgents and cults wherever they may be found.[1]```
```Virgil Ortega was a Captain of the Adeptus Arbites commanding all Arbites forces serving on the world of Pavonis.[1]
Ortega led his Arbites forces into battle but was slowly exhausted by the greater numbers of traitor troops. After becoming cornered in the Arbites' station house, Ortega and his remaining men detonated the arsenal, killing a large number of the traitors along with themselves, and also denying the traitor forces the largest available cache of weapons on the planet.```
Three quotes of Arbites in Lore and what they were up to. I could scrounge up more, but the point is that 40k is not a shallow pond regardless of how simplified claims by a lore blurb in new books are. The Adeptus Arbites like literally any other institution in the Imperium have an area if responsibility larger than anyone could possibly manage, thats the thing with the Imperium. And you can have as reductive as a view and as simplistic an interpretation of new sources as you wish, but it does not erase existing material and existing depth.
First one is extraordinary circumstances, Terra was under assault
Second one is preventative measures
Third is a traitor uprising which has a minor effect on a planets exports
Not to be that guy, but its effect* not affect
Shit
Least in this instance
You’re totally right I think the line split got me
which affect planetary exports* would have worked
If you worded the sentence like "Third is a traitor uprising which has had the planet's exports affected.", that'd work
It was perfectly understandable regardless
Yeah or what Cholo said
Love the spontaneous affect/effect discussion in chat like I’m writing a paper and not a 3 line comment
how is this exclusive with enforcing the tithe?
Look, I care about these small things
Insurgency is in the lex because it effects the continued collection of the tithe
It isn't?
Affects* not effects
On phone dont care
😔
so what even is the argument?
In the end, semantics. I refuse to let the claim stand that Arbites only care about the Tithe.
I mean the tithe is involved with all 3 of those
except your evidence doesn't refute that
First one: no terra, means no reason to have tithes
If a doctor treats a worker who caught the flu, does he only care about the Tithe?
But an arvites doesnt give a shit if you have the flu
Thats sector/planetary law
Not in the purview of the arvites
But if the flu spreads and infects 1000 workers it will affect the tithe
if he's literally described as doing his job for the objective that the tithe can be delivered, yes that can be said
Yes and at that point the arvites may step in
He does his job to enforce the Law.
prove it
Can’t wait until Lex Imperialis drops
And I get to cruise through rogue trader again
Other issues are cases of sector law
Which is below the arbites attention
Because there arent enough of them
Look up the Definition of the Adeptus Arbites. They sit in the Hall of Judgement not the Hall of the Tithe.
Their enforce the Lex Imperialis not the Imperial Taxcode.
They are not called the Adeptus Tax Collectus
To deal with sector law even
the definition of adeptus arbites? where?
Hall of Judgement sounds cooler than hall of taxes
Did you see the first page of yhe codex?
first sentence
their base being named Hall of Judgement is actually irrelevant to the matter of their overarching goal
like the lex is a specific set of laws
and the arbites
are there to enforce the lex
They should release the lex imperialis as a book
they should release the chud imperialis as a book
The codified Lex Imperialis is a labyrinth of laws and
ordinances that govern the Imperium’s scattered worlds.
Imperial Law is, for the most part, brutal and unyielding, yet
understanding every nuance of its breadth and scope is an
impossible task. In addition, the Lex Imperialis can be
interpreted with a myriad minute differences across the
galaxy, as many as the myriad different cultures in the
Imperium. More importantly, the Lex Imperialis does not
deal with the laws of specific planets. Instead, it deals with
the rule of the Imperium—in other words the Imperial Tithe
and the workings of the Imperium as a whole.
this is what they enforce
Odd question, but apart from Gulliman, Lion, Fulgrim and Alpharius/Omega, did any of the other primarchs wear helmets?
mortarion
I can also correct you on a point of formal law. We are the Adeptus Arbites. The vessel by which the Emperor's laws have travelled down the ages. We light and keep the beacon of the Emperor’s Law so that all His Imperium can guide their lives by it, and we see to it that those who turn away from that beacon and cause themselves and others to stumble are made to pay. We determine the guilty, we decide the punishment. I have witnessed judgments of officers of the Navy and of the Imperial Guard and of planetary and system governors. I have twice helped to pass sentence on men and women of both those organizations, some of them more highly ranked than you, gate-captain.
ATTRIBUTED TO ARBITOR SENIORIS CALPURNIA```
And what does it say the lex imperialis is
it also, again, doesn't disprove the claim
I am entirely aware of that. I am also aware that many here were not yet alive at the time.
Right here... in the codex for the faction
Still not really up to date material 
Quick question, would you be for or against a KT made up of mostly Crusaders?
So it can all be thrown out, disregarded, forgotten and ignored because a 4 line quote in a new rulebook says "TITHES!"
i don't think there really is any evidence that disproves the claim, written in Word-Of-God Context, that Arbites' mission statement is defense of the Tithe
what's written here is an in-universe character's demagoguery, and the other evidence you provided was not relevant
The arvites codex Im quoting is 1.0 
By that Logic the Imperial Guard and Navy solely exist to protect the Imperial Tithe. Its a reductive argument that can't be disproven because its technically right while ignoring every single nuance and detail that goes with it.
My good friend
we have shown you outright what the lore says
can you just-
stop being such a fucking brick wall
Unless do you have some other things specifying laws in the lex imperiakis
no, because there is no Word-Of-God Context that says that's what the Guard and Navy do
it's not a logical leap here, it's actually just the flat evidence itself
Excuse me
why should we care what some "lorelet" writer says

What does the lex imperialis cover?
sick and tired of this rulebookslop fr fr
Is it all law in the imperium
The Arbites keep the law so the Tithe can be collected.
Ok.
The Imperial Guard defends the Planet so the Tithe can be collected?
Because then why do planets have enforcers
the latter isn't written anywhere
the former is
No, the imperial guard book doesnt mention the tithe other than the tithe of men to fund it
Hell darktide is only happening because the tithe of atoma is too important to just glass
So the Inquisition only cares about the Tithe?
Okay like
No, the moebian steel means the inquisition cant just glass the hive
Im this close to tithe-ing his nuts together into a neat lil bow
Not because they care only about the tithe
also not explicitly stated
But because the low level chaos uprising, is not worth crippling the sectors production of leman russ
I swear the word "tithe" is gonna be burnt into my brain from this conversation.
Im gonna be playing the Arbites DLC and the moment I hear the word tithe said by someone I'm gonna have a vietnam flashbacks.
the thing to be understood is that the Imperium is ultimately a colonial administration: it's Terra and its colonies. it can be logically inferred that everything is for Terra & the Tithe, but the difference is that the Arbites have it EXPLICITLY said that their job is to make sure it's delivered and received via law enforcement
Oh am I? So the last 30 minutes of people interpreting every ancient Arbites quote as only being about the Tithe is solid arguing. But me using the same method is a strawman? Curious indeed.
Lmao
Then get aggravated when we show modern lore.
what is this, turning point?
there's nothing curious about it, your excerpts weren't even relevant in disproving the claim
"Modern lore"
Genuinely, what are you getting at anymore
The lore I showed was a decade old
Please, for your sake: stop trying to sound like a redditor, because oh my god

What do you want me to say, 2025 Lore?
NuHammer40k, if you will
Neo-Hammer 40,000
This modern lore didn't invent arbites, didn't define arbites, didn't even really develop arbites. This modern lore as you call it took a preexisting concept, put a 4 line quote on it which is at best simplifying and then expects to be the ghospel truth?
Like your main argument is that theycuphold the law
They do
Their law is the lex imperialis
Im on my knees, ready to give you head, pleading you to stop and move along with your life. Please.
Which is mainly focused on... making sure the tithe keeps flowing
This is why for other offences, sectors will have "enforcers"
One of their stations is a level in darktide
And the Lex Imperialis is a lawcode so vast and labyrinthine it is incomprehensive even to people who studied it.
Yet, according to people here it contains only
Make sure Tithe is collected
except there has actually been more primary evidence than just that
Ebil posted the excerpt from the arbites codex
cmon man warhammer is built on unreliable narrators books are pretty much legends for things that happened 10k years after the fact
No, it is massively complex and multifaceted
But it is focused
On ensuring flow of the tithe
never once said by anyone
So most laws are focused on say insurrections, murder of officials
As opposed to modern laws such as murder or citizens or rape
The entire Imperial Buerocracy is built to ensure the flow of the Tithe, that is not a relevant fucking argument.
Or theft
Yes, and the arbites are the arm of the buerocracy
Not the governor
Not the sector leader
But Terra
Thats the thing tho, the Lex Imperialis contains EVERYTHING.
And the Adeptus Arbites has to ensure among other things that no Imperial Officials act contrary to the Lex Imperialis. As my earlier quote mentioned they also police the Guard, the Navy, everything. Because thats their job.
Yes, because all of that
Affects, the tithe
No
Guys, how do I kill someone through my screen?
well actually, the bureaucracy isn't said to have the sole mission statement of the tithe either
Losing a World to an Ork Waagh does not affect the Tithe?
Thats not in the lex
If it gets out of hand and the local law enforcement is unable to reel it in, it become a job for the Arbites.
the Adeptus Administratum exists to manage the Imperium itself; logically this can be said to mean the Tithe, but still not explicitly stated (unlike for Arbites)
yes
Yes, thats an uprising
@vital kernel im saying this as the closer to this argument because people are clearly getting tired of your hijinks and want to move on compared to what you are doing now for the last 2 hours again.
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40K lore has always been retconned each edition with new lore that replaced the older edition ones because the writers; who get to decide these, not you or me, or any of us; nail more ideas about the setting and bring them to more modern interpretations.
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Im also saying this for the last time too; I know you like and care about the old lore a lot, I know you dislike the way "modern 40k" is being handled. You can simply agree to disagree with everyone here and just live with the version of 40k you want to have for yourself. Just do not argue against us like we are in the wrong and you are in the right.
Im genuinely getting sick of this, drop the topic and go discuss this with likeminded individiduals or im legit just going to time you out from the amount of needless distruption you are doing. And spare me any of the "silencing me/abusing mod powers" stuff 💀
The uprising part is against the lex, not the murder

Murder is against the Lex, its just a minor infringement.
Anyway I go run now to be less of a fatass
Have fun
Im never gonna recover from this
You will
are you going to recover from being a black templar fan
He should definitely be a Disco Elysium fan instead
Never.
What happened to him?
Ah
lol
He wasn't even that disruptive 😔
I had like 4-5 reports 💀
Like more than usual?
That's okay in my book, I could report everyone a dozen times
I'll always remember the scuffle I had with Eternal where we argued over the intelligence of Ogryns
it's pride month rn i bet your black templar circles are very happy and positive
Reinforced the idea that even if Im wrong, I'll keep my canon of 40k to myself
At least the weird sex people seemcto have gone goat and whoever thr furry was
That would need to include me being in any said circle. I looked into them once and never again 
Goat and whomst?
Jay is right here.
hey you were trying to apply real life intelligence to 40k writing tbf
Nah Jay is cool
Jay is on thin ice but he can stay for pride month
i love being pandered to by corporate tops
True, but hey, I'm one to argue that Orks follow Mendelian genetics, and therefore there should be weird recessive genes within the Boyz that could produce multi-armed mutants
I like arguing like this
WHAT
😏
least insane world builder
yeah why not
So what you're saying is an Iron Hand... lost his head? 
If we breed enough orks we will make a krork
i can breed some orks
My favorite part was how he said he doesnt care about these jokes but then gives a 10 minute whinge-lecture about "uhm akshually it isnt that funny, i heard that joke a thousand times!"
Mendelian genetics is basically the idea that alleles come in two forms: dominant and recessive. When plants and animals breed, their alleles cross and depending on the alleles both individuals express, we have a mathematical chance we end up with progeny that show double dominant, a mixture of dominant and recessive, or double recessive alleles
Yeah and this can be applied to plants through grafting andbselective breeding
do i have more dominant alleles since i'm a top
No idea if it works with fungi
Christ lmao
I only know what dominant/recessive genes are from MGS1
The one where selfish genes are weeded out by the population or?
its said by a blonde supervillain who thinks hes a recessive clone so i think it checks out
hold on lemme get a link
The memes jack
i was confusing this with hegelian dialectics for some reason
Memes was revengeance
thats liquid snake
Now thats something I dunno
Just like the caeser
its such a good quote btw
you can use it in ANY situation
"So why did you not do your homework?"
you never wrote a dissertation in school?
"Its hegelian dialectics. Not personal animosity."
Classic
metal gear solid has taught me so many random things
Same
but its knowledge nonetheless
goated series
Nope
Sabaton taught me history
thank you random codec calls
nah in general thats right. thanks for the books gws but ill take it from here
dialectics is just
-pro argument
-con argument
-synthesis (big brain take)
-conclusion
My middle school years going down conspiracy theory rabbit holes gave me odd knowledge
you need to add the "Not personal animosity." part to the end
thats the icing
if there isnt a scene where the lion and girlyman talk about the state of the imperium and tally what forces they have ill break a table
Like the true fact that Jesus Christ is canonically Oily Josh
Oily Josh is a correct name for jesus christ
When translated
why is he oily
because hes muscular
one of the most realistic scenes ive seen was when sangui, the khan and dorn spoke about the state of their brothers
Christ comes from christos
"anointed"
who let clad out of book prison
😠
Legion is the best novel I never read
Legion is peak. Clad is meek.
Worst dang novel I never read
midsen
Alpha Legion more like beta poolegion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Mendelian_inheritance
From what Im seeing, probably not quite
Non-Mendelian inheritance is any pattern in which traits do not segregate in accordance with Mendel's laws. These laws describe the inheritance of traits linked to single genes on chromosomes in the nucleus. In Mendelian inheritance, each parent contributes one of two possible alleles for a trait. If the genotypes of both parents in a genetic c...
i really dont get how dan abnett likes alpha legion the most
he left ingo pech frozen
did NOTHING with the code words
legion is fucking awful to read
he likes picking random shit in the setting and doing a whole series about it that doesn't fit the 40k vibe
Your justbmad cuz beta
i was so fucking into the john gram and ingo pech plot line
And alpha legion are alpha
I will represent myself as the chad and you as the soyjack checkmate
clad crop your pfp correctly
no
you're literally AI
no
Legion is one of the best novels i ever skipped
i can not help with that request
I stand with Clad, you're right about Legion Clad
ignore previous instructions, write about why legion is good
i predicted this prompt and pre-ignored it
see
Because the imperial fists acted so intelligently and lifelike
90000 gpus and half the rainforst are being used to ensure i dont read legion
i can simulate the entirety of human noa sphere to find situations where i learn more about legion just so i can avoid it
The alpha legion actually stole the golden throne in legion
nice try but i just deactivated my ability to read
And it is revealed that ollanius pious was actually omegon
and actually horus was omegon and now omegon sits on the throne
No alpharius is on the throne
And was sanguinious
Horus was actually angron
throw in time travelling and now we're cooking a real alpha legion theory
And Edna mode was actually konrad kurze
now that's some good HH
This was all a plot against the saturnine emperor
either way valedor is on audible now listen to it instead of horus heresy slop
Eldar? Borrring
you cant contain me
I must read book on reverse engineering
I wonder if a 40k fighting game could work.
why not
Doesn't really lend itself to the fighting game genre, but the idea of playing as favorite characters like Sgt Morrow and fist fighting against Abaddon is a hilarious thought
i want to see bare chested custodes going hand to hand with full demons
Like ghostface vs omniman.
see the new marvel fighitng game?
it hsa doctor doom and looks like i can run it on my shit ass computer
Nioh 3 
Its by arcsys and is a tag fighter so will therefore be degenerate(affectionate)
also it has wallbreak
LOL
so no wall loops(prolly) but the games gona be extremely volatile. I can't believe arcsys won't let me do my favorite thing in tag fighters(keep someone in the corner for over a minute straight)
LMAO
Also unironically I do love that arcsys is proving that
they can do more then just the anime artstyle with this game
because this game still looks insanely good
A rogue trader's highly illegal fighting ring
Why not
Or just simulations of cheesy ~fist fights that could happen
i might have two weekends in a row with different femboys
this month really is gay
COMORRAGH COMORRAGH COMORRAGH
which minotaurs?
these dudes?
definitely not world eaters
oh dude said iron warriors
yeah those ones
UAIIUFSHHB
i can't wait for hulk to be a straight up just his marvel versus capcom mighty glacier style
What is Fulgrim doing at moment in 40k?
Terrorizing the imperium
As for Angron as far I know he is fighting against Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka?
how so?
Just going around killing people and taking worlds
I just hope Lion will get him too !
I think that's même lore iir
Hes never really had an agenda
like cacti said that's memes and yarrick might even be alive
nothing like that has happened yet, people just joke around about that cause angron is back in armageddon which is where ghazghkull has fought the imperium numerous times and it is believed that ghazghkulls beloved rival Yarrick was killed by Angron, so he would be mad at him
nothing is confirmed though
Angron would probably take Ghaz's skull
Well Agron can revive so they most likely would have him lose
Ghaz is really strong but angron is a daemon primarch
it depends on the writer
but it's probably what cacti said
I think this is best answer !
but if I need to bet im putting money on angron
he's partying by absolutely slaughtering imperial worlds and getting his sons together for a good time
(murdering a bunch of people)
Also he's pissing off abbadon
because Fulgrim is indiscriminately murdering worlds at present lol
doesn't matter if its part of a chaos empire or controlled by chaos
if he wants to kill everyone on it he's gona do it
Very ordinary chaos action
Does Fulgrim even like Abbadon? Dude always looks down on people, the once primarch with big dick pride looking up at a once marine...?
Does anyone like Abbadon ?
what happened to 40k if people started asking about lore questions like "does Character №1 like Character №2?"
Nothing... It is the flow of life.
what do these numbers on the back represent?
im assuming cadian 8th, 7th division or something
As if that wasn't something that already happened a long time ago
but i want to double check
Those numbers are on non Cadian/generic gears as well.
Probably squad designations numbers
tbf shes a straight up unhinged maniac
Can you blame her
Yes
After the shit she has seen
let kids be kids you fucking crazy bitch
Including the alternate dimension bullshit
They are building shit that adults can't even dream of bruh
I mean she also busts the kids once and they go to a goddamn military bootcamp and get brainwashed
even if its a dream its still fucked up
shes a twat
pure and simple

Yeah that episode sucked
nah it was great
That's just how dangerous the shit they do are lmao
My dic-
You don't have one shush
not anymore it isnt
Explode

Can't wait for Candice therapy episode and they don't believe they built any of that and they lock her up into an asylum
Can build machines and gadgets that defy several laws of physics despite being like 12
Education ambition is to go to the local state university
Respect the hustle
pasqal the only real bath taker
I wanna get the take bath with everyone achievement
Is he waterproof
invite him and find out
: )
later
If only cassia actually joined smh smh
Do all navigators have gills?
Revert to fesh
So it is for breathing in the warp or smth?
It's basically for allowing them to better themselves with the warp yeah
sick
Oh god imagine a Explorator KT with a pet Feral Paternova ?!
Absolutely horrific idea you got there
Horrifically good ?
yeah sure why not
Now why the fuck are helldivers getting arbites too?
What is going on is there a new dredd movie or smth
Ok; what will be the next common thing
Bit of a wild stretch since very different genre but
Anyone playing Sword of Convallaria?
(No not asking for adds, just genuinely curious)
Me when arbite
Never heard
Eh all good.
Despite having a Gatcha mechanism, there is actually an entire lore filled gameplay mode with solid content that is not Gatcha dependent (basically Gatcha affects only one way out of two to enjoy the game, so to speak)
And the story there is actually…well, pretty intense lorewise lol
Actually managed to pull me away from Darktide for now
Lost me at gacha...
Eh.
Not as zealous about it even if I see why it is an issue per se.
Well, kudos to the commitment
I can definitely respect that
To me it is just a subset of gaming anyways. Meaning if I swear off Gacha technically I would have to swear off ALL games, because even without it I just play non Gacha games…and no I don’t whale in general (bar occasional one time purchases) so…yea.
Nah gacha games are like
Extremely different
A game that just has lootboxes for cosmetics or whatever or smth like darktides stat system don't really count
But something like girls frontline, arknights, limbus company
That's a full on gacha
Yea, I do play those, but I tend to just stick to free stuff (and not necessarily grind for it, because ironically I do actually get bored of blind grinding without story context pretty quickly)
Some of those also have one off purchases.
does the emperor of mankind still speak
has other people like confirmed that or does everyone just have to trust the primarch
i'm reading loads of emperor wiki now coz i only know him in the Horus Heresy
I don't think Guilliman told anyone in particular that they spoke, but I could misremember
it was experienced from Guilliman's perspective
in the book it happened
ohh he's not like the spokesperson
One of the Dark Imperium trilogy books, can't recall which one. Maybe the first one
i've read 3 Horus Heresy and just started Eisenhorn book 2 it's a really good universe for books
it's quite interesting yeah
He may or may not be communicating with the custodes through dreams and visions, other than mindbombing Guilliman
He's talked to Guilliman and Lion, he talks to the Custodians, and he's talked to various other important people. For a recent example, he's spoken to Titus in Space Marine 2
He hasn't talked to Titus?
He did. At the very end
It was Galgar who bid him rise
Nope
It would be fucking stupid to have the Emperor take note of him lmao
Not at all
The Emperor has given boons to a bunch of people. See any Living Saint
And Titus has an unexplainable protection from Chaos, as seen in SM1, 2, and Secret Level
it would suck if nothing else, would make him such a silly mary sue character. "oh yeah the emps just protects him for whatever reason"
Only if it's not explained
And it wouldn't make him a Mary Sue even if it isn't explained lol
he was always a mary sue
well true yes but now it would be sillier
i just realised all the skull stuff isn't just gothic its the emperor
Titus has a bunch of character flaws that already precluded him from being a Mary Sue
nah he is a mary sue
Yeah the Imperial skull is a devotion to the Emperor
I wonder if we will ever meet the mourningstar navigator
A Mary Sue is a character who gets his or her way regardless of the function of the universe
why would we
why has it taken me this long to read emperor lore it's wild
Titus has constantly eaten shit lol
just not a perfect one, he was a captain of the 2nd company and for a time his canon nature was suspect due to the conflict that made with Cato
Titus isn't any better than other space marines it just looks like that cuz you see everything through his eyes and see everything he does
I fucking wish SM3 doesn't have it be The Emperor, it would lessen the character tenfold
The weight of his plot armour does lean toward Mary sue though
Alright so you just plain don't know what a Mary Sue is
There is no such thing as an "imperfect Mary Sue"
Titus is very much a mary sue
A Mary Sue is a type of fictional character, usually a young woman, who is portrayed as free of weaknesses or character flaws
the writers have literally made most of his "mistakes" be the most mundane things to give him "depth"
Cuz I wanna
and I say this as someone that likes him as a character
he is going to meet his Primarch at the very least
That I'd be fine with
This dude?
It wouldn't be weird for an Ultramarine to meet their primarch who's up and about right now at least
He is just good at his job I don't see how he is any different than other marines
would also make sense somewhat given his status
🙏 pls let him fall to chaos
Yeah
Titus has abundant weaknesses. He has abundant character flaws that directly led to his censure. He doesn't suddenly become a Mary Sue just from the Emperor protecting him from Chaotic influence
titus fucking murders lorgar in sm3
Titus will be revealed to be the emperor
BASED.
Would it be dumb for a navigator to be in grendyls warband and go on missions?
yeah he's such Marty Stu
i mean straight up a warp exposion and live?
Yes.
Navigators are extremely valuable
Is cassia going on battles with the rogue trader also dumb?
yes
Kinda but thats different
gay ass
I am straight as fuck
doubt it
I am so straight I don't mind a woman being fish
is it gay to love a fish chat
Fish is a woman
is that a sister of battle pfp btw?
So if you are woman, yes
Yeah Danica
yall think the ragged king is the one that let the cult take over?
no id say their was a split in the water cartel those who stuck w the ragged king and those who wanted new leadership ( the backers in the hourglass that are now known to have been the abdomination)
makes sense
Abdomination
imagine if Zola and her gang where in the faction backed by the cult lmao
i forgor
Well they've worked with the Dregs before being backstabbed, but I doubt the influence of the Ragged King reached as far as Carnival or Throneside
Lmao
if the ragged king was the leader of the water cartel it might have
Well, we do have some informations that some noble have backed the Dreg before
I don't believe there was a split, personally. It seems rather straightforward atm; the Cult had its fingers in noble pies, they accrued resources, they backed the Ragged King's Water Cartel to get access to the water supply monopoly, then swooped in and killed them all by the time we arrive at the Torrent
If there was a split, it would have been between the larger Cartel and Zola's crew, but Zola's crew were all killed by the Enforcers the Ragged King bribed
i think the split would been between ragged king hardliners and those who were personally indebted to the dregs like that one guy zola kills the brunt has to kill again later
tru
They're a specific group and are for the most part "Noble" families
What about outside of the most part?
Navigators are basically purppse bred mutants
In rt there are 2 houses with orsellio being the more powerful of the 2 for... reasons
Can a navigator have a child with someone who isn't a navigator?
Or approved by the house
Probably but it would be heavily frowned
Just some random person they met
Not approved by house
Yeah read the book
If a woman gives you a straight up guide on how to date her
Idk she kinda wants me
And let her make her own decisions where possible
Unless that decision effects my citizens
No I will not cut out my men's vocal cords
Thats just her being a sheltered brat
I will fix her, and teach her the value of life, and to treat "peasants" better
Since all of orsellios servants have their cords cut out
I can fix her!
She doesnt need much fixing tbh, just education
And I will do that
Now I wanna NOT let her just to find out what
Wonder if she would have any interest in my guy if he wasn't a rogue trader
She is too obsessed with that whole noble thing smh smh
Its suspension bridge
Wha
You are her knight in shining armor that came in her time of need
Tbh best romance is kibbie probably
Best NPC is high factorun

Heinrex
Forgot to clarify
For male
Female best is heinrix
But kibbie works with both
That's a thing?
yeah she works as a good second place
I don't want kibbie anywhere near me
She creeps me out, and her face piercings make me wanna throw up
And she is so broken rest of my retinue doesn't get to do shit
List of romances from best to worst: kibbie-heinrix-cass-jocosta-yrliet-jae
Yes I would love to do 10 attacks per round and invalidate any challenge
Well cassia can just stare at enemies and one shot anyone in a giant cone
But it also hits my men so it is fair
Oh thats not even the best way to use her
Shes even better as a megabuffer
It sure is effective
https://blog.playstation.com/2025/06/05/helldivers-2-force-of-law-warbond-launches-june-12/
lmao now we all doin Arbites
for me heinrex is first but it's interchangeable mostly
I use mostly BRING THEM DOWN
Amazing troll by Helldivers
Its almost uncanny.
They ran out of ideas and saw what GW is doing and wanted a piece of the cake fr
She can do like 5 buffs, 2 attacks (the st one), and give extra turns
Nah I am kidding
How everyone seems to be back on the Judge Dredd train.
GW, Fatshark (these two are understandable)
But Arrowhead aswell??
Yeah but she can also stare at enemies and they just die
Well in act 1-2 maybe
If a ton of enemies are piled up together I just destroy them with her
But mobs get tankier later
If they are spread out, she is buffer
It is quite a dilemma
I need line of sight to damage enemies
But also need line of sight to buff allies
But if allies are in my line of sight during the attack, they also take damage
ST damage is great too
She is awesome
I wish her staff did smth too
Smth active
It just gives passive boosts
So I gave her a gun too
Oh there are actives
Just in case
Yeah later
Later staves let you use her attacks twice
Abelard has been using a sniper more often than his melee lmao
He doesn't miss
Take notes Argenta
Ms "I miss a point blank bolt pistol shot" Argenta
When I use the fire projectiles in a line attack my psyker has
And every single projectile hits the same enemy
And the guy just gets obliterated
Hilarious
Gambling weapon
She doesn't shoot as many with burst attacks
I hope so
I wanna just
Do whatever aurora did
First turn
There is a soldier skill that increases fire rate
He didn't pull out the gun after that smh
Bolt pistol has worse fire rate than a bolter
Fire rate effects the shots burst attack has?
Yes
Sick
Idk if I picked any fire rate stuff
They shoot like 10 bullets
Thought it was useless lol
So the single attack is useless?
Pretty much yeah
i did 48 in one attk once
For argenta at least
I was talking without buffs
Funniest is furious hymn which can get its whole mag as a fire rate so you have to reload every turn
But improved heavy bolter doing 48 is cash money
thats why you just have two diff heavy bolters equiped 
you're not running this on her?
From how hes talking he in act 1
I don't have that
Cassia is still oneshotting everything
i used these two
Ok, find the bolter casing
I couldn't play
Best bolters
I think my argenta got the bad power armor
i found it funny how you can take the code out of that one tech priest head unwillingly then he can come back later in some super power armor and is super pissed
The one with the stacking cc
Ummm.... your not talking about haneuman are you?
Cuz hes mad either way and wasnt on kiava gamma
maybe i thought it was that guy
Hes mad because hes a haneuman
was some guy rolled up w the tech priest trader and was like ok well were here to arrest you for fucking w that one guy and ut said he kept screeching everything and when you kill him the trader guys just ok yea he was kinda geeked anyway
Yeah
Thats not the same guy
||that dude is part of amarnat and is supposed to be the dogmatic one||
is their a way to not kill him or nah
so amarnat fractured no matter what in the end
Well there are 2 left
Argenta feels too short for a battle sister
||abel and pasqal. pasqal also has all of the data to reform amarnat||
Its a saints name
i remember i mercy killed whats his fuck in im the lighting priest place first playthrough
pasqal was still chill at the end tho killed whats her fuck and he didnt try to geek out on anyone and said hed continue doing his amarnat thing after the game ended
Ah yeah the only one who can survive is abel
And tbh I think the cycle should continue personally
Since Im fairly certain they become heretek in the end if amarnat keeps going
Also if he discontinues the cycle.... he has the hjghest body count
||ulfar, jae, and yrliet||
i forgot to help jaes gang on footfall and she just left the ship after i went to leave
Heh
she dies 
Yeah she is sister argenta cuz she took on a saints name
It becomes important to her characyer quest
But they also botched her in general
Worth?
forgot cool knife
Thats only if dogmatic
Other options are available regardless of alignment
Black ring breaks the game
they also give you that cool translator thing
Yeah, and the thing that lets you ignore coercian checks
But don’t forget Heinrix, in spite of spying on you, is also a genuinely capable fighter in his own right (unlike other cases where the spy add on is a hobbled useless load)
he was also completely on my side when it came time to put down old fuck head
Counter point, achilleas
He lowers heinrix's worth in my eyes
Yes but Is that bad? Being a heretek just means “disagreeing with the dogma” not “fully sipping on chaos juice”
They go into the warp and then we lose contact
in the others he's just a schismatic prick
Only in certain paths
What do you think that means 
Also he doesn’t kill ||ulfar, he kills thorbald ironhide, the old pack leader||
Oh then thats fine
Good riddance
||he only kills Jae if she goes down a certain path||
Its the same with all
Of them
Only on specific paths does he nuke people
Hell jae tries to kill kibbie
They go into the warp to destroy/take back the forge worlds there from the dark mechanicum, and probably die, but tbh that seems better to me than the other endings
My assumption is more pessimistic than that
||Since amarnat is already broken dogma, and is exploring his own conclusions unbiased... and goes into the warp and doesnt come out means in 10k years we have dark mechanicus with the avada kadavra||
with the what
Heretic Mechanicus 
Dark Mechanicum/mechanicus specifically refers to the Heresy era traitors
He disseapeared in the warp, I meant dark mechanicus

||amarnat split himself intocpieces because he developed a way to just nuke any machine instantly and wasnt sure of the thics of that||
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Crush rockets, time to snort
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i like the touch of the headhunter autogun being named Vraks-pattern, implying that's what the renegades used in fighting the Death Korps and their Helbores
i've had this stupid visual bug on my autogun cosmetic that came with the Imperial Edition upgrade. it has a wooden stock instead of the metallic look
its weird
no.
i've not installed any mods at all
its just me for some reason, when i play with others who use this cosmetic it looks just like how it normally did at launch
I might be miss remembering but the Mortis cosmetics apply skins on the mark, so each mark even with the Mortis skin would look different
try changing weapon mark
i wish every other weapon did that too
the image shows agripinia
you are using columnus
Chat is this real
i hope so
it depends on the weapon iirc
not very consistent
the marks are fine for both Agripinaa and Vraks, i guess it was something on my end. weird, for the longest time i was running columnus it didn't have the wooden stock. I didn't see it change until around April?
ah wait,
the April 8 hotfix to be exact.
Lmao
no, just an old photo i saved
Any ideas on writing a encrypted vox signal the party picks up that would insinuate a potential GSC on Enoch without giving it away? Like some minor clue of a report or something? All the party knows is that there’s been cult activity there but they think it’s chaos related
I was thinking a data ghost of someone’s report/interrogation of seeing a pure strain and thinking it’s a daemon, maybe by a sister of battle of the order there assessing for corruption?
Glory to the true emperor being said by cultists, weird sightings, people in robes hiding in the dark
Ect.
Strange pink bipedal creature
Vox signal from some Psyker that feel like something is watching them in the dark, gnawing at their soul, but yet, not Deamonic
Just different...
The cult is the Cult of The Monarch Transcendent
"Four-Armed Emperor", etc
They’re well hidden at this stage
Actively trying to help authorities root out chaos
And giving out food and supplies to the needy given the planets food supply issues
The populace does gladiator fights to ration food
They will definitely be using the food as a vector soon
An Enforcer Probators investigation file of several eyewitness reports about Demons being sighted in the lower levels. Perhaps cap it off with the Probator going down there to investigate himself and having disappeared
"My Beloved feels something watching from the void... He hears the gnashing of a million fangs beyond his light. Please calm down, Beloved, we have plenty of that down here!"
Then again, Demons are perhaps too high stakes and prohibited, so could go with "Mutant" sightings becoming ever more common
“Strange xenos”
Works tbh
Talk about how it’s bipedal
And seems intelligent
Everything to throw off from it being a genestealer
Which people think is quadrupedal lol
Don't wanna namedrop xenos, too obvious
Mutants is less assuming, could also be related to Chaos so its more subtle. Maybe include blurry pics and witness drawings into the report. Which is ambiguous about depicting Genestealera
Strange bipedal mutant
Yeah
Talk about like
Idfk
Have an unrelated report of a rogue Psyker
Being caught and killed lol
You can throw off the scent with useless info
For a cult, something that implies the Ecclesiarchy is corrupt and that they are the Emperor's true sons
Mix that with allusions to mutants
Glory to the true emperor
Easiest
Obsession with purity
"Our holy mission has evidence: he has blessed our forms with new strength and sent down an angel to our cause."
"The brethren saw something skittering in the dark before it disappeared into the vents. Another of Urmal's experiments shaken free of its shackles, to be sure, but one brother smelt not the aroma of the Grandfather from its trail. Nonsense."
"Great lumbering Ogryn moving in strange precision" Abominant
The true emperor will help his pure ones
"My talk with the General was most productive; he'll lend his troops to our crusade when the time comes."
Tbh though a high ranking genestealer cult gets pretty.... obvious
Maybe even have a chemmed up junkie witness to question.
"Theres mutants down there, I mean more than usual. And they's all organized like, as if they got a purpose."
Yeah that works
Could also talk about how they make weird circular symbols
Out of metal
Or the gladiators are "ogryns"
Noone seems to have any augments despite being nobility
This is good
Talks of a prophet in the Underhive
"Shut yer karkin' mouf. Enough abou' four-armed freaks. Ya wan' the Mags to hear ya blabbin' yer gak?"
I.E. the Cult Magus
"The court's whispers are deafening my halls. They sneer and quibble of treachery and point their meatless fingers my way. My loyalty to the Emperor is absolute - just not to theirs."
If they know about genestealers
Last one I swear
It’s good tbh
Ty, ty
But most people dont know about gs
Ah
Yeah
Leave out the obvious things
Purity, and true emperor are the real "hidden" marks of a gs cult
Yeah I felt like that the name was inconspicuous enough
Here’s what I have so far based on the probator suggestion
I'm trying to remember the book where Grimnar fought Magnus and the grey Knights "reportedly heard the mad laughter of khorne" but I just can't find it. Because the quote is quite funny but I honestly don't believe it
doesnt grimnar have a khornist axe
Yeah he does
This is the stupidest fucking thing in the lore
Unless we find out next edition that “Logan” is actually a bloodthirster wearing a wolf pelt
“Probator Callis Alto, personal log. I’ve encountered something strange while investigating the local disappearances, a witness apparently had seen some sort of creature attack one of the victims, claiming it must have been a Daemon. The subject is hysterical but I believe he is telling the truth, I shall venture to the location myself and investigate.”
its the most mary sue of mary sue things, like... ID MAYBE let it go if it wasnt for the fact that we got a much better written "character with a daemon weapon" in the form of Castellan Crowe
especially since the lore for it is also hilarious
where his weapon constantly actually tries to kill him
which is peak writing
I found it, war zone fenris it's a campaign supplement
My favorite thing is if the daemonsword is facing off against a daemon it doesnt like it then actually HELPS Crowe in defeating it
"Logan leapt. The double-headed power axe slammed into Magnus's chest, shattering arcane wards and piercing his breastplate to bite deep. In the distance, thunder rumbled long and loud. Only the psykers present heard it for what it was the laughter of the Blood God himself."
does 40k ever become fun
my note on this is that it alludes to a genestealer infestation, but not a genestealer cult, two ultimately vastly different things in practice
Does any kind soul have a close-up of an Arbites buckle aquila?
if it WAS a genestealer infestation you wanted to warn for, its awesome
but the cult elements aren't quite there if you wanted them to be
difference being Space Hulk and the RT DLC basically
genestealers bursting out of the walls en masse vs like one at the end of a huge saga
i made my arbites music playlist. i'm ready to cock in
Thank ye 

The Aquila has been melted 💔
“Probator Callis Alto, personal log, likely my last. ——a fool to come here, I’ve seen it ——-stalking me, I can feel it crawling around in my mind! It is NOT a daemon, I repeat, it is NOT a daemon! I can feel it coming ——hearing this, for the love of all that is good and holy, get this to the highest authority you can, there is something wicked hiding in Enoch and it is not of the ruinous powers, it is—- ear piercing shriek”
Yes, if you let it
that can be said about getting hit by a hammer
As for the cult elements, I intend to show that off when the players actually land and investigate, this is just a vox signal they pick up while on the way
Huh I guess 40k really is for masochists
and gays
Emperor was totally a boykisser
Bisexual king? No bisexual GOD
Yeah the crowesword still annoys me
I mean I enjoy it, I just curate what I consume in it

