its way more varied since they come from all walks of life
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
vital kernel
None of the new Lore contradicts the existing defition of the Adeptus Arbites.
Which none of your excerpts have managed to refute either, you're just reducing it to that single aspect of their responsibility.
storm jungle
Arbites meanwhile are entirely brainwashed
well mostly by propaganda than literally but ye lol
also are like absolute psychos
FYI hes talking to a corpse
late whale
Where does the name Illisi of the cleave force-sword name come from?
storm jungle
Where does the name Illisi of the cleave force-sword name come from?
oh wow
okay i didnt know this either
that is actually pretty cool
late whale
Ah so a similar origin as Traxis
late osprey
people talk about being afraid of inquisitors, arbites are practically empowered to be just as scary, and there's a shitload more of them
if i were an enforcer captain and i heard an arbite was coming to my precinct, i'd have a heart attack
storm jungle
Yeah their entire joke is they are IRL police brutality turned up to 11
also stems from the ripple of Judge Dredd which itself was a parody of the awful UK police of the 80-90's lol
late osprey
well also like how their brutality doesn't even end at citizens
just about ANYONE is liable to get turned into shotgun jelly if the arbites charges you with a crime
storm jungle
just about ANYONE is liable to get turned into shotgun jelly if the arbites char...
On cue
late osprey
imagine being an enforcer but the arbites just shoots you in the face because he discovered you were corrupt
storm jungle
Yeah unless they got orders to take you alive.
Either way you are basically fucked so lol
sucks to suck i guess
late osprey
well they have A LOT of discretion in what they do, don't they?
a bit like judges from judge dredd in that regard
they're the judge, jury, and executioner all at once
storm jungle
Yeah that is still a thing.
late osprey
you never know what they're gonna do. that's terrifying
storm jungle
they are basically evangelist-cops with shotguns
its why id really recommend reading this rulebook, it updates a lot of older lore to the modern times
vital kernel
Depending on the rank of the Arbites it will probably be at their own digression.
The whole point of an Arbites is to make swift and independent decisions and deal apropriate punishment on the spot.
storm jungle
late osprey
i could imagine SOME exceptions existing like the investigation/arrest of the politically powerful
taking down the planetary governor if done wrong could start a civil war
but generally its like arbites getting able to do whatever they want when they're in the field
well, "whatever the lex imperialis says" is how they'd defend it
vital kernel
Arbites are the law.
Thats the whole point of having Arbites around. They arbitrate legal questions. There is no need to defend their actions because punishing criminals is their entire purpose.
If an Arbites killed you the case is closed. Noones gonna question the legality.
storm jungle
i could imagine SOME exceptions existing like the investigation/arrest of the po...
I had one story I finished yesterday where me and my pal's OC are on the run to get their Warrant of Trade legitimized since it turns out since hes a washed out ex-navy breacher (and thus somewhat from a nobleline) can get it.
The issue was we accidentally killed an Administratum Magistrate which were hunting us across the entire story. We only get them off our asses when a Ordo Famulous agent they were paired up with "rescues" them by proving their innocence and that the Magistrate was corrupt
(they still broke our legs/noses and threw us in a cell before they found the truth of it though lol)
blazing wraith
I AM THE LAWN
storm jungle
On cue 
blazing wraith
Anyways, I'm re-reading the eisenhorn books now that I'm older and wiser, and goddamn. They're good.
blazing wraith
It's so great how much of a hypocrite eisenhorn is.
Wait this isn't book chat
Who cares
Anyways
Good books
It's also really interesting to me how quixos was probably correct.
storm jungle
He could be but alas the Inquisition has the cooler drip so I must agree with the warcrimes Eisen does instead.
lavish zephyr
starting my journey on horus heresy, im gonna be 40 by time i finish this
forest orbit
Oh yeah speaking of Dilara Im curious does the book have any bits mentioning what arbites do regarding low level crimes like you said?
forest orbit
YES thats perfect, i need this for something so yoinking that
this is form Soulshackle too right?
storm jungle
Lmao yea
forest orbit
🫡
storm jungle
starting my journey on horus heresy, im gonna be 40 by time i finish this
Do not read every single book
lavish zephyr
im ngl i start losing count on how many book for wh30k
late osprey
the idea that the Arbites know that a coup's going to happen beforehand but won't do anything is so funny to me
storm jungle
its one of my FAVORITE bits from the rulebook its so fucking funny
late osprey
imagine being the Governor and the Arbites just don't tell you that your own Planetary Guard are going to break into your house and kill you tonight
storm jungle
I DO appreciate how the writers at least acknowledge as long as the civil war/uprising doesnt damage the planet too much and is just to replace a ruler
it makes a lot of sense
lavish zephyr
all my lore knowledge come from adeptus ridicilous and tts :)))))))) i might to actually get a real source
storm jungle
so it isnt just them being lazy, its them sitting out and observing
storm jungle
all my lore knowledge come from adeptus ridicilous and tts :)))))))) i might to...
Get the real lore, it will make you superior
late osprey
all my lore knowledge come from adeptus ridicilous and tts :)))))))) i might to...
Lexicanum is a great place to start because it cites its sources
storm jungle
^
languid meadow
Get the real lore, it will make you superior
yeah reading the fandom wiki
late osprey
So you can tell what's old, what's made the fuck up, and what's word-for-word
WE LOVE THE FANDOM PAGE
storm jungle
The fact that you reading anything from the official sources already makes you smarter than most of the fanbase
(this isnt even sarcasm 💀 )
vital kernel
the idea that the Arbites know that a coup's going to happen beforehand but won'...
A coup against a ruler is not necessarily against imperial law.
late osprey
A coup against a ruler is not necessarily against imperial law.
it's not, but it's still a funny thought that they'd screw you over out of sheer disinterest
storm jungle
^
They allow it because it doesnt affect the way the planet is run and might even make it be run better if the new ruler is gooderer than the last one.
languid meadow
the entire imperium is just clan mors when you think about it
late osprey
Imperium being Skaven, not Empire, is my favorite Ultimate Truth
late osprey
there's even a big chair reserved just for the absent god-ruler
dapper gyro
What kind of rat?
storm jungle
Any kind.
dapper gyro
Inclusive I see
astral burrow
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1085667218584506599/1379686881553420338...
Oh wow another ultramarine
Yaaay...
sacred ginkgo
I was going to say it’s chapter indeterminate then noticed the laurels
astral burrow
You mean vannys?
arctic talon
Laurals aren't UM only
astral burrow
Yanny
arctic talon
or whatever they're called
astral burrow
I said ultramarine cuz ultramarine logo smh
sacred ginkgo
Actually is that even Primaris
It looks like new scale non Primaris with that chest armor and the cables below it
sacred ginkgo
Yes
astral burrow
Leg what
arctic talon
astral burrow
Where we the flares
sacred ginkgo
you can tell bcs of the leg flares
The tubing bits under the breastplate look like old firstborn armor
sacred ginkgo
Just looks a bit out of place
astral burrow
GW wants you to think it isn't a primaris frfr
So you don't look twice but the real chads will buy Warhammer+, get it, and kick your ass fr
sacred ginkgo
That and the old giant mouth vent
sacred ginkgo
Yeah
Primaris helmets have 6 diagonal slits on a plate instead of a giant A shaped grill
vital kernel
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1085667218584506599/1379686881553420338...
oh boy a dynamically posed Space Marine character. We've got a real drought of those!
arctic talon
its normal MK7 helmet
vagrant fox
A return to tradition, very good
Delay all other factions until every marine model is revamped in this fashion
astral burrow
Cuz there ain't enough marines!
dapper gyro
The helmet and the abdomen are mk7. The rest is Mk10T.
The lower body looks more like Mk10 gravis.
It is a mix of so many things.
raven stone
Morning chaps
And chapettes
And variations thereupon
…the Mastiff will be invulnerable
Nice. No micro managing…
astral burrow
Yeah
Glad we can choose to not have it too
Hope the buffs are great to make up for it
raven stone
Being a Ping keystone Vet I might get some mileage out of it, but we will see
But I agree having the option to remove dog is a good thing
polar hill
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1085667218584506599/1379686881553420338...
Gigachad Rubicon Firstborn
Mark VII helmet, Mark VII-style stomach cabling
Absolutely love to see it
astral burrow
Man I hope they elaborate on what is up with KB
That implant and "accident" mentioned are just too interesting to not be curious
Might be the first time I seen a droid human hybrid in star wars
Well there was lobot but that was just some background guy
Her name too, what kinda name is "KB"
polar hill
Wookiepedia says her parents' names are Garree and Maree, so KB might just be a punky shortening of Kabee
astral burrow
Makes sense
But the girl that's pretty much half droid being called KB, like a droid prefix, does seem like it could have a deeper meaning
Or that's why it is her nickname, which is kinda fucked up
rose thorn
astral burrow
Omg it is skeleton from skeleton crew
rose thorn
They killed Genestealer cults entire gimmick because it was too complicated people complained online
And gave it to tyranids
They killed GSC army rule and made them a fucking melee army and gave the army rule to tryanids
GW just hates GSC’s
raven stone
More attracted by new 40k rules, reading the above.
I share your sadness about GSC rules change though.
queen laurel
They killed Genestealer cults entire gimmick because it was too complicated peop...
They may as well take gsc at the back of the shed and shoot them in the head
raven stone
And of course Imperial Agents get a fat nothing
rose thorn
To be fair the last time they got a new regiment it’s the worst one in the game
raven stone
GW really be shitting on any human factions that isn’t Guard.
Chaos Cults, GSC, Imperial Agents…
raven stone
(And never mind the Gue’vesa who now only exist in Lore or self made conversions stand in)
rose thorn
If it’s not wearing power armor it gets bad content
raven stone
I mean, GW got slightly better now, Sisters/Guard are finally being fed every now and then. Custodes are always gonna be OP, so are Knigths.
They have marginally improved to “If it’s not Imperium aligned it gets bad content. Except Agents, because they are the Imperial stepchildren that gets mistreated.”
Even Ad Mech is getting their list fixed.
polar hill
Chaos Cults, GSC, Imperial Agents…
GSC aren't human, ackshually 🤓
Dang my Nitro ran out
raven stone
Ok yes lorewise fully correct there
nocturne crest
Would anyone want a kill team made up of Crusaders?
celest dome
I mean, it would give a lot of Crusader miniatures
That would be nice
But like it would kinda be redundant to the
Imperial agent KT
nocturne crest
I mean, it would give a lot of Crusader miniatures
Honestly, I'm just thinking of Crusader minatures, but some come with different weapons, like the melta bomb shield or something.
raven stone
I think the Sisters of Battle got Sacristans for the purpose of replacing them…
nocturne crest
Yeah, I can't seem them making a Crusaders killteam because of the imperial agents or that recent one that fought goremongers.
raven stone
If they do reintroduce them, expect them to get a Gothic rename
Because Crusaders is too generic a word to be copyrighted.
celest dome
Crusadius
astral burrow
How to turn a star wars ship into a microfighter
Hmmm
It could be fun
But those have some stupid specialized pieces
celest dome
Tbh, I don't really see what else they could do for the Imperium as Kill Team.
Admech got one not so long ago, but maybe one set around Electro Priest could be nice
Maybe Ogryn team
queen laurel
Maybe Ogryn team
Bone'ead Squad
celest dome
Reject are already there with Inquisitorial Agent
Not sure if there is a Psyker in it though
celest dome
Bone'ead Squad
Another I could actually see would be Astra Telepathica
Could feature more varied weapons style
nocturne crest
Here's a thought: What about Killteam based on the various houses that help the imperium? Like naviagtor, crusaders or knight houses all in one box or something?
polar hill
Man (ignore the missing textures)
I love the way modern Marine anatomy just makes sense; the exposed neckseal puts the neck muscles into perspective, which puts the shoulders into perspective, then finally where the arms connect
All normal, albeit upsized, human proportions, with a strategic layering of plates that conveys the sense of inhuman bulk without overly limiting the range of motion
It's all so logical and I adore it
celest dome
Here's a thought: What about Killteam based on the various houses that help the ...
Knight would be difficult to really make work tbh
astral burrow
Man (ignore the missing textures)
I love the way modern Marine anatomy just mak...
Those pauldrons are still hilarious
hexed orchid
Those pauldrons are still hilarious
Those puny things?
nocturne crest
Knight would be difficult to really make work tbh
That is true. Maybe some Knight house milita or admech?
sly ivy
Those puny things?
y them have no neck
hexed orchid
y them have no neck
Don't need a neck if you have enough pauldron 
arctic talon
Imperial agent KT
not really, there's not a human scale melee focused team
The goremongers are not human scale
due to their fucking stats lol
arctic talon
GW?
they released the slate a few hours ago
@rose thorn suffering builds character for GSC players
and boy do they suffer a lot
celest dome
That is true. Maybe some Knight house milita or admech?
Admech has 2 already
arctic talon
admech doesn't need more KTs yeah
nocturne crest
Admech has 2 already
True, but those two were mainly admech. I'm talking just one or two models next to some navigators and crusders?
arctic talon
There's factions missing KTs
that should get them lol
Deathwatch(ironic), Grey Knights, Daemons, Emperors Children
nocturne crest
Deathwatch don't have a killteam?
arctic talon
Deathwatch don't have a killteam?
no
here's all the teams rn
Gellar pox I don't count as a team since they're from 2 editions ago and are super jank
nocturne crest
Wait, should the orks have two kill teams? The commandos and that one which fight the ratlings?
queen laurel
where are Kommandos?
queen laurel
they forgor
damn they are so good at stealth they even evaded the faction list
queen laurel
yeah champions of Mork those guys
celest dome
True, but those two were mainly admech. I'm talking just one or two models next ...
There is a Rogue Trader KT that has a Crusader and a Tech Priest
raven stone
That was also the last time Crusader mini got updated
Is considered something of a rarity nowadays.
plush mason
so if Tau had a bigger presence in the warp you think Tzeentch would get more out of them than he does the humans currently?
or would the strick caste system limit their ambition too much
crystal forum
they dont have many psykers and it's pretty hard to find plots in a society with such strict rules
plush mason
yeah
crystal forum
still there's always room for chaos to grow
plush mason
ofc its just Tzeentch gets more out of humans than any other race
polar hill
See: Khorne and Farsight
plush mason
yeah
crystal forum
that's not normal tau
crystal forum
doesn't he also really love psyker
plush mason
yeah but his main sources of power or whatever are hope and ambition
because both things drive change
ofc he feeds off of anything that drives change
so greed is one as well
polar hill
doesn't he also really love psyker
Psykers in general or Psyker Darktide?
'Cause Seer Psyker Darktide has a shard of the Emperor in his head who actually protected the Seer from entering the realm of Tzeentch at one point
polar hill
Barely
He's too helpful, knows too much, and again, protected the Seer from Tzeentch
Anyway, yes, Tzeentch does have an affinity for Psykers, not only as elements of change, but as conduits for sorcery
rocky gale
Behold the most generic space marine mini to ever be
polar hill
He is beautiful in his simplicity and I love him
And he looks better with the helmet on
rocky gale
I could make it with spare parts, absolute waste of a special mini
winged jacinth
He's too helpful, knows too much, and again, protected the Seer from Tzeentch
Of course since tzeentch and pals are sneaky little tricksters for no reason other than having the opportunity this could be a ploy but im on the emperor fragment side
polar hill
I mainly like how he's such a thorough blend of Firstborn and Primaris aesthetics with the MkVII helmet and stomach and yeah, the red bolter
raven stone
Behold the most generic space marine mini to ever be
It’s pretty much a rehash of an old Mini with Powerfist and Boltgun that existed when GW still had lead minis in 3rd edition.
winged jacinth
You dont get to be a daemon of tzeentch unless you do a little trolling just because
raven stone
I mainly like how he's such a thorough blend of Firstborn and Primaris aesthetic...
I can respect GW dialling back the “Blizzardfication” of their own design elements, true.
polar hill
Blizzardification?
winged jacinth
Honestly considering how long the models have been getting iterated on they're amazingly non-goofy overall
raven stone
The original Primaris art and Style looks like something right out of Blizzard.
polar hill
??
raven stone
You know, bright colours, round sci-fi contours
round tartan
Pretty sure Blizzard's designs were inspired by Warhammer.
plush mason
Pretty sure Blizzard's designs were inspired by Warhammer.
the mile high and wide pauldrons atest to that
raven stone
Designs wise definitely.
But…I don’t know how to word it best.
If you looked at 3rd edition Firstborn art and compare to Primaris art
Primaris art just feels…tonally NOT GW art.
round tartan
Warcraft was originally supposed to be a Warhammer game. But in the end Blizzard just ripped off the entire setting and called it their own thing.
polar hill
Almost like there was a 19 year gap in aesthetics?
raven stone
Less a gap, more like a massive switch
Since the artstyle was consistent up until Primaris era.
They could have done Primaris in the same “gritty” manner so to speak.
Even if they are a newly introduced thing.
polar hill
I just can't agree with that sentiment tbh
raven stone
Ok fair enough
They might have dialled back the Primaris changes, or I just had a biased misconception to start with
winter vessel
I just can't agree with that sentiment tbh
The artwork of the Crimson Fists making their stand is still my favorite piece related to the Astartes
shadow plover
it's just the different artists mostly, not everyone paints in that gritty style
round tartan
It's too clean, too sanitized. Here's some box art that actually gets your blood boiling, just some drunk random villager with any weapon they happened to hav on hand.
winter vessel
2nd on the right holding it like a gangster, lmao
shadow plover
well you're posting Karl Kopinski, it's just unfair to compare anyone to him
storm jungle
They might have dialled back the Primaris changes, or I just had a biased miscon...
You probably encountered some of the more "clean" generic artists GW has
it was way worse in the mid-2000's
round tartan
Anyone? I'd say John Blanche is a serious contender
raven stone
it was *way* worse in the mid-2000's
That explains it
shadow plover
it was *way* worse in the mid-2000's
fucking 6th edition codex art, so ass
round tartan
interestingly enough, Blanche also paints models
storm jungle
That explains it
Here, one example
One is great, the other? ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT 😔
Mobile game ahh
winter vessel
too vibrant
raven stone
Ah yes, that is it.
@polar hill I had the misfortune of seeing too many Primaris done like what you see on the right.
polar hill
fucking 6th edition codex art, so ass
Am I googling the wrong 6th edition
shadow plover
This was from the MTG release, no?
storm jungle
Am I googling the wrong 6th edition
Again that is 1 example
shadow plover
also that's the rulebook
storm jungle
GW back then was hiring like all kinds of freelancers
shadow plover
this is a codex from that edition
storm jungle
This was from the MTG release, no?
Yeah but as ever the issue is theres a lot of artists, some better than others 😔
polar hill
Ah yes, that is it.
<@281036771633004544> I had the misfortune of seeing too man...
Gotcha, that does look incredibly mobile gamey
outer wave
I recall this image, and looking back at it, I feel like as soon as this picture were to be animated, all of these marines would crash into each other and die
storm jungle
SPACE MARINES ATTAAAAACK
raven stone
Gotcha, that does look incredibly mobile gamey
You can also conceptualise it this way: GW realised their art mistake is so bad, they redacted a lot of freelancer artworks in current publications, which is why current Primaris art actually looks consistent with earlier Marine art.
storm jungle
like this aesthetic is so boring
I do somewhat like those covers but i wouldnt defend them yeah
they are WAY too clean/pristine
shadow plover
storm jungle
theres this one artist i HATE that I need to find hold on
shadow plover
then they continued with this aesthetic all 7th edition
humble shoal
Best artwork is still the slaaenshi marine
humble shoal
Thats in the csm codex
storm jungle
"Oh no man. Please. Dont kill me."
vagrant fox
😔
outer wave
Looks like the marine is also hesitating
outer wave
"Hey uh, could you move? I dont wanna hit you with this hammer."
raven stone
😔
Yea this is another backwards art devolution fail.
Even worse is that the epic version is used for the Imperial Agents codex
Which is…anything but epic.
humble shoal
My intro
humble shoal
The spear looks cool
storm jungle
weird photoshopping + art for his works
humble shoal
Was my 12 year old selfs thought
storm jungle
John Sullivan was his name iirc hold on
sharp pollen
he walks... in space... so cool...
polar hill
I can't stop looking at all the little details
How did this get greenlit
shadow plover
Sullivan is weird, some of it is nice like the Grey Knights art above but a lot of it is just a mess
storm jungle
I can't stop looking at all the little details
How did this get greenlit
Its like heresy itself
all it takes is 1 to slip through the cracks...
humble shoal
humble shoal
humble shoal
Ngl the paint filter feels off to me
humble shoal
Peak
storm jungle
...man I should get that updated, its so old its crunchy af
humble shoal
Makes more sense when the crunch is caused by shadows
winter vessel
64 bits
queen laurel
...man I should get that updated, its so old its crunchy af
like you?
sharp pollen
gotta get that 8k ai remake
polar hill
Old and crunchy was my nickname in the schola
winter vessel
gonna be at the age where you start poppin and locking but its your joints, Dilara
sharp pollen
gonna be at the age when you send that gendalf scrolls gif and say "heh thats me)"
storm jungle
winter vessel
Dilara 20 years from now:
vagrant fox
I cut the artists some slack, whichever nerd added unnecessary cabling and stupid little jet boots is to blame
why does the heavy bolter no longer have an ammo belt
polar hill
Portability
humble shoal
this is a codex from that edition
Also in that book, peak csm
Still not sure what the breast pump is for
polar hill
Slaanesh.
vagrant fox
stanced up gigachad with ammo to spare to destroy everything vs virgin primaris limited ammo and a tube
humble shoal
stanced up gigachad with ammo to spare to destroy everything vs virgin primaris ...
So true
vagrant fox
Chaos does chaos things, don't worry
humble shoal
Have the primaris had the black rage yet?
vagrant fox
yea
humble shoal
Primaris wolfen?
polar hill
... Why does it have a tube? Is it a cable to integrate it into the armor's targeting system?
shadow plover
external power
rocky gale
stanced up gigachad with ammo to spare to destroy everything vs virgin primaris ...
Na, Heavy Intercessors cooler
shadow plover
heavy intercessors are very cool but so do be the devastators
vagrant fox
Genuinely not sure if primaris can turn wolfen, I don't pay much attention to space wolves these days
shadow plover
If they can't that would improve space wolves by 90%
humble shoal
You may not like this but this is peak performance
dapper gyro
The ammo belt is so thin...
winter vessel
stanced up gigachad with ammo to spare to destroy everything vs virgin primaris ...
the lack of seeing the bolter rounds connected to the heavy bolter saddens me. never did like the box magazine look it has now
vagrant fox
Primaris intercessors are fine I just love the ammo belt, the real problem is these stupid cables I hate so very, very much
dapper gyro
I'm a bitch for proportion accuracy.
humble shoal
Primaris intercessors are fine I just love the ammo belt, the real problem is th...
Heh
Heh
Thats a design flaw
Cuz isnt power armor pressurized?
dapper gyro
The old Marines ammo belt as weird as fk. It connects to the backpack... but no actual ammo storage on said backpack...
winter vessel
Primaris intercessors are fine I just love the ammo belt, the real problem is th...
those cables are gonna get caught on something and the Space Marine is just gonna fall face first
dapper gyro
You may not like this but this is peak performance
Nah, Centurion is way cooler.
polar hill
Genuinely not sure if primaris can turn wolfen, I don't pay much attention to sp...
They can. Russ gene-seed = Canis Helix
humble shoal
Nah, Centurion is way cooler.
So hear me out
Its a terminator in there
So
We could have
A centurion dreadknight
polar hill
Same with Blood Angels Primaris and Red Thirst/Black Rage, ofc
crystal forum
Primaris intercessors are fine I just love the ammo belt, the real problem is th...
that's heavy intercessors
also you can cut them off
vagrant fox
don't tell me what to do
humble shoal
also you can cut them off
But then the suit wont be pressurized cuz holes
rocky gale
Yea, personally I like the leg cables, but if I didn't I could just cut them off
crystal forum
But then the suit wont be pressurized cuz holes
every hole is a goal
vagrant fox
I don't know why, it's the one thing that really irks me, but it's also no big deal whatsoever
humble shoal
every hole is a goal
Cant go in space if have hole
crystal forum
you already have a hole
dapper gyro
This is why Phobos armour is the best mk10.
humble shoal
you already have a hole
Not in the sealed power armor
dapper gyro
I know that someone here will complain about the boot looking shin guard.
rocky gale
There isn't a hole, you just cut the pipe off and sand it smooth
vagrant fox
The old Marines ammo belt as weird as fk. It connects to the backpack... but no ...
It goes ontop of the powerpack 🤓
winter vessel
Ehhh it’s not that distracting
crystal forum
Im american not failed empire
im north american
humble shoal
im north american
Your english is french and your maple syrup is lacking thats all the canadian slander I can do
dapper gyro
It goes ontop of the powerpack 🤓
I though I saw some without that backpack.
vagrant fox
Sometimes, I dunno. I just know there's that ammo pack that goes ontop
crystal forum
Your english is french and your maple syrup is lacking ~~thats all the canadian ...
says the brown sugar water eater
vagrant fox
I've warmed up to the primaris, there's still little bits I don't like but then the space wolves also exist so whatever
storm jungle
stanced up gigachad with ammo to spare to destroy everything vs virgin primaris ...
One of the biggest model changes I fucking despise.
Theres one rule in fiction. The heavy machinegun guy gets the huge backpack.
AND THEY COULDNT EVEN MANAGE THAT
humble shoal
says the brown sugar water eater
There are so many things that could be that I will be offended
winter vessel
im north american
I’m of the Terran Dominion
dapper gyro
SC Marine is lovely.
storm jungle
oh wait
winter vessel
Hah, you’re old
dapper gyro
The fuck, she is old, so she should be aware of that more than most younglings.
storm jungle
winter vessel
“You want a piece of me, boy?”
dapper gyro
Could be that grand mommy here getting dementia.
storm jungle
“You want a piece of me, boy?”
that Megatron line lives rent free in my head
"No, I'll have two."
rips the man in half
winter vessel
dapper gyro
Funny enough, the ammo storage under pauldron comes from StarCraft.
But then for some reason, people associate it to 40K.
vagrant fox
starcraft more like stinky
dapper gyro
Same thing with "Armour is less for protection and more to keep the user safe from recoil"...
Which comes from Gear of War and not Starcraft...\
Then there were some quote from Killzone, but associate with Halo... I can't remember though.
raven stone
The lore was far too ahead of its time
And also they placed the player on the wrong side :p
vagrant fox
Killzone mercenaries did it just right
Just keep flipping sides
get cash dollar for headshots
winter vessel
“NOW IS OUR TIME”-Visari
raven stone
Unnumbered mentions of “Helghast would be right at home in Imperium” on YouTube comment nowadays
vagrant fox
Based and cool and Imperialpilled
I would've liked a game from the Helghan side of things besides mercenaries but you know how people are with totalitarian dictatorships these days
winter vessel
I remember my first reaction to 3’s intro. “Where the hell do you keep hiding this many?!”
raven stone
I would've liked a game from the Helghan side of things besides mercenaries but ...
As someone from HK and simultaneously aware of but also disinterested in the “dictators are scary” aspect of IRL politics.
…
All I can say is, not talking about dictatorships is a weird source of community censorship in its own right.
You cannot know what bad is if you don’t talk about it.
humble shoal
I would've liked a game from the Helghan side of things besides mercenaries but ...
I mean just play the post america game
Forget what it was called
vagrant fox
Absolutely, ignoring it does no one any good and just leaves you ignorant
humble shoal
The one with werbell as a faction leader
vagrant fox
what the one where the north koreans invade?
humble shoal
what the one where the north koreans invade?
Thats red dawn and wasnt originally koreans
vagrant fox
Yea I know, it's pretty funny
humble shoal
The new order
vagrant fox
Oh, eh, I don't care about Wolfenstein. It never quite hit right for me
humble shoal
Where the best faction was led by definitely upstanding citizen Mitchel Werbell
humble shoal
Oh, eh, I don't care about Wolfenstein. It never quite hit right for me
Not wolfenstein
raven stone
Thats red dawn ~~and wasnt originally koreans~~
Yea we can be honest and say they wanted the game to sell in China, but due to all the War Crimes scenes they had to change to North Korea.
If they were not so bone headed to include War Crime Scenes they might have gotten away with China (to appeal to Chinese nationalists)
vagrant fox
Ooh that new order
Next time I'm in a HoI 4 mood I've got it on my list, last time was Kaiserreich and then I got bored
humble shoal
Where the best faction was led by definitely upstanding citizen Mitchel Werbell
Has some interesting figures like this dude
Who made the supressor for the mac-10
And irl was poisoned looney toons style
vagrant fox
I've genuinely completely forgotten about this guy, one of those funny 20th century guys who did a lot of weird stuff
near dragon
are Ogryns like Astartes gone wrong or what
humble shoal
No
near dragon
abhumans
humble shoal
Ogryns are abhumans
near dragon
how do they come about
humble shoal
Which means stable
near dragon
failed transformations?
humble shoal
They are stable mutants
near dragon
what mutates them
humble shoal
Space marines are just mutants, not stable
humble shoal
what mutates them
Whatever planet they lived on for 20k years
near dragon
i thought adeptus astartes were once men turned into space marines
near dragon
but who is turning people into abhumans
humble shoal
Ogryns are born
near dragon
oh i thought because there's no female they were made
near dragon
so they like breed and have ogryn communities
vagrant fox
They're around just not really depicted, yea
They're a subspecies of human or what have you, with baby ogryns and all
outer wave
but who is turning people into abhumans
Abhumans are simply humans who evolved in such a way thats very different from the norm or in the case of Beastmen, mutated
near dragon
ohhhhhh they're a different evolutionary branch
celest dome
Beastmen aren't mutated, they're also evolved into what they are now
humble shoal
Yes
storm jungle
ohhhhhh they're a different evolutionary branch
Its like how we have mutations IRL now
humble shoal
Abhumans are just humans who over time have mutated
outer wave
Yes, Ogryns evolved on certain high gravity worlds full of danger
humble shoal
And are stable
storm jungle
its just way more wild
queen laurel
how do they come about
they evolved that way
near dragon
Its like how we have mutations IRL now
agent orange
storm jungle
agent orange
Nah in general
queen laurel
they are basically stable mutants that can reproduce
humble shoal
Moreso like the tree people now
celest dome
the only Abhuman that are mutation per se are the 2 that aren't really Abhuman (Psyker and Blanks)
near dragon
and the imperium reclaimed their neanderthal ogryn world
storm jungle
Missing limbs, being tall, too big, etc
storm jungle
and the imperium reclaimed their neanderthal ogryn world
theres multiple ogryn worlds
humble shoal
Missing limbs, being tall, too big, etc
Or the tree people
queen laurel
yeah they are usually from high gravity worlds
humble shoal
Are catechans abhumans
humble shoal
outer wave
Now that I think about it: I wonder if Ogryns developed better cancer-prevention genes as a result of being much bigger
storm jungle
they are just really muscular people
humble shoal
they are just really muscular people
Universally?
queen laurel
Are catechans abhumans
No basically just the peak of humanity with no genetic alterations through technology just pure brutal training
humble shoal
There gotta be a mutation in there
storm jungle
Universally?
No
queen laurel
like the sisters of battle
queen laurel
unusually strong because they just train like like a maniac
storm jungle
which is funny because being a roidfreak look-wise is not really the "peak" human form
humble shoal
Do they just kill the short people?
vagrant fox
They're universally 80s action heroes due to their upbringing, that makes them cool and rambo like
humble shoal
Like dont see any reason why they wouldn't be abhumans being ork sized
storm jungle
they arent abhuman bcause they arent mutated
all that shit is from the training regimens they go through
queen laurel
all that shit is from the training regimens they go through
also their environment
static wren
catachan coconut dodgeball
queen laurel
They are literally forced to always be on the move
outer wave
Do you think Catachans could theoretically evolve if enough time was spent on Catachan?
humble shoal
Thought they got big just by living in that environment tbh
humble shoal
With all of the megafauna and shit
storm jungle
💀
queen laurel
Thought they got big just by living in that environment tbh
come on bro keep up with us
we literally just told you it's their environment
humble shoal
Death worlders are mutants
celest dome
Catachan aren't Abhuman cause making them Abhuman wouldn't service the Astra Militarum 💀
humble shoal
storm jungle
next question
vagrant fox
Do you think Catachans could theoretically evolve if enough time was spent on Ca...
If GW thinks it's cool if there's enough evolutionary pressure probably
queen laurel
It's just like how people are in the world
If they grow up in a certain environment they get used to it and adapt accordingly
humble shoal
The adeptus administratum is keeping it hidden from us
storm jungle
Do you think Catachans could theoretically evolve if enough time was spent on Ca...
Hard to say because nobody here is a scientist
and GW also doesnt understand how evolution works
outer wave
Hard to say because nobody here is a scientist
Erm, I did my major in microbiology, so erm....
queen laurel
and GW also doesnt understand how evolution works
the **** you mean you become bigger and stronger in gravity?
celest dome
Yes, we're all nerds (derogatory) and stupid (not derogatory)
humble shoal
Erm, I did my major in microbiology, so erm....
Thats not evolutionary biology
storm jungle
For example
outer wave
No but I touched on genetics
queen laurel
Yes, we're all nerds (derogatory) and stupid (not derogatory)
hey i'll have you know i am a stupid nerd therefore i am double derogatory
storm jungle
the entire thing of ogryn worlds having high gravity thus causing them to grow large is wrong
it would be the opposite
hallow saddle
i did a biology degree and worked in a lab
outer wave
Yep
queen laurel
You you guys cannot that's my abysmal intellect
humble shoal
No but I touched on genetics
(I know Im just being a dick)
late osprey
the entire thing of ogryn worlds having high gravity thus causing them to grow l...
also it probably wouldn't happen in just 20,000 years
outer wave
it would be the opposite
Its funny because Squats IIRC also evolved on similar high gravity worlds
storm jungle
also it probably wouldn't happen in just 20,000 years
Yeah realistically speaking we very much will prob go extinct by that time anyway
celest dome
aka low gravity
But wouldn't make them stronger ?
Should be high gravity, but high oxygen maybe
outer wave
i did a biology degree and worked in a lab
I never got to work in a lab
late osprey
strictly speaking any non-earthlike environment would induce evolution on the proper timeframe
vagrant fox
I won't go extinct, I'll live forever
late osprey
what a Catachanian Human would look like? no idea
storm jungle
It would definitely be something akin to african tribesmen somewhat
those fuckers are built for hunting/living
lots of muscle but also tall/stretched looking
late osprey
All Tomorrows is pretty fun at exploring this stuff
outer wave
But wouldn't make them stronger ?
Should be high gravity, but high oxygen maybe
Low gravity would imply that they wouldnt need as much strength to use for average living, so Ogryns would likely become lankier and atrophied
humble shoal
All Tomorrows is pretty fun at exploring this stuff
All tommorows wasnt natural evolution though
storm jungle
Yeah that too
queen laurel
It would definitely be something akin to african tribesmen somewhat
Bro there's literally a tribe that uses bows and punch holes through deer
humble shoal
You'd know shortie
storm jungle
every "human" in that was genetically experimented on
humble shoal
Human blankets
late osprey
the Forcibly Evolved Humans finally get their revenge millions of years later it's ok
storm jungle
lol yep
also while we are speaking of evolution
remember when God of War Ragnarok was coming out
and they revealed how Thor looked
and people were like
"WHAT, HES NOT MUSCULAR?"
"HES JUST FAT"
celest dome
Low gravity would imply that they wouldnt need as much strength to use for avera...
Yes, so:
Ogryn: High Gravity, High Oxygen
Longshank: Low Gravity, normal oxygen
Squat: High Gravity, low oxygen...
humble shoal
That is whaf peak performance looks like
storm jungle
Im pretty sure half the world had no idea what "strongman" physique was back then
lol
vagrant fox
I had a gym teacher with that kind of Thor build and he was the strongest mfer ever
storm jungle
The whole gut-muscle thing is really interesting yeah
humble shoal
Im pretty sure half the world had no idea what "strongman" physique was back the...
Or what a strongman physique is now tbf
storm jungle
YEP
late osprey
i think fat thor was a little over the top but yeah nobody should've been expecting Chris Hemsworth
storm jungle
Tbh
late osprey
because he wasn't just strong fat the guy was an orb
outer wave
Yes, so:
Ogryn: High Gravity, High Oxygen
Longshank: Low Gravity, normal oxygen
...
Ogryns could probably develop in normal gravity, but the environment may have to be similar to, say, a Catachan's in order for survival. So yeah, I think high O2 would also be a thing.
humble shoal
Ogryns could probably develop in normal gravity, but the environment may have to...
Not sure if gigantism would come from catechan thougj
late osprey
he's also a warrior and a raider, which are his stronger traits more than his feasting (which everyone was idealized to do)
celest dome
High Oxy normal gravity probably would be the Ratling
humble shoal
Most of those predators would just f up an ogryn
outer wave
Not sure if gigantism would come from catechan thougj
Its not, but if gigantism survives in the gene pool, then well...
storm jungle
Ogryns could probably develop in normal gravity, but the environment may have to...
Yeah also its clear ogryns are a "stable" line of humans at the moment, since IRL the reason iirc big people ala Andre the Giant etc die so young is due to health issues and such since the human body is not made to operate a physique like that which is tragic
celest dome
he's also a warrior and a raider, which are his stronger traits more than his fe...
Warriors don't really mean they have body builders physiques
Ogryn also encompass multiple strain
late osprey
Warriors don't really mean they have body builders physiques
that's not what i said
humble shoal
Yeah also its clear ogryns are a "stable" line of humans at the moment, since IR...
I was thinking more just the fact that hiding is easier than fighting catechan shit
storm jungle
I was thinking more just the fact that hiding is easier than fighting catechan s...
If we are speaking realism yeah
humble shoal
Most beeg bois evolve in areas with low competition right?
outer wave
Yeah also its clear ogryns are a "stable" line of humans at the moment, since IR...
Yeah, the heart has to work harder to pump blood throughout the body and we already have issues with our pelvis/spines, so being bigger doesnt help those issues
storm jungle
I legit doubt theres a way for every catachanii to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger
late osprey
also the norse were much like us in that when they did describe their characters (such as in Njal's saga) they liked describing them as all being super hot
storm jungle
also like
catachan makes no sense as an ecosystem
so we havent even got into that either lol
humble shoal
I legit doubt theres a way for *every* catachanii to look like Arnold Schwarzene...
Mutant with a myostatin inhibitor
humble shoal
vagrant fox
Yea they all have the hercules gene
outer wave
Mutant with a myostatin inhibitor
I remember a cow having something like that once
late osprey
the idea that DAoT humans forcibly modified themselves to live more comfortably is much stronger than some evolution explanation
outer wave
Looked ripped as fuck
humble shoal
I remember a cow having something like that once
One of the racing dogs has it stably
storm jungle
Anyway ill steal this myostatin inhibitor idea for some abhumans i gotta write into my thing, thanks a lot nerd
humble shoal
late osprey
humble shoal
the dog ate Eddie Hall
Eddie hall has the same myostatin inhibitor
storm jungle
wouldnt surprise me
humble shoal
Its why he is so large
storm jungle
didnt he literally burst a bloodvessel from lifting?
and like almost give himself brain damage?
humble shoal
He went temproarily blind
storm jungle
💀
outer wave
Anyway ill steal this myostatin inhibitor idea for some abhumans i gotta write i...
Just look up genes on research sites and articles and go ham from there
humble shoal
Lifting 500kg
storm jungle
fuckin nutjob lmao
humble shoal
Then halfthor did 501
storm jungle
LMFAO
humble shoal
Easy peezy
dapper gyro
There are cats with that mutation. They are so cute, but they would bankrupt me.
outer wave
Make a mutant that has a knockout Sonic Hedgehog gene thats a real gene btw
vagrant fox
Aren't there some kids with that mutation and they look like bodybuilders
or was that facebook fake news
dapper gyro
Yes
storm jungle
This reminds me when a doctor uhh
went over space marine implantations and made a realistic depiction of them
my favorite addition was the Marine's mouth is completely melted
vagrant fox
fucking 10 year old catachan at it
humble shoal
went over space marine implantations and made a realistic depiction of them
Watched this
late osprey
because of the continous acid spit production
"fuck did we make the jaw resistant to acid?" - Emperor, Prototype 1.0
storm jungle
Watched this
Its so good and a great reality check
vagrant fox
I like that, I'll search for it
storm jungle
space marine mutations are dumb af
outer wave
because of the continous acid spit production
I really wish there was an execution in SM2 where Titus just hawk tuahs on a Tyranid
storm jungle
its total 90's action-movie logic
vagrant fox
wrong they're cool and based
humble shoal
The memory eating thing is the most stupid
storm jungle
The memory eating thing is the most stupid
Like
how does it even work
i still dont get it
humble shoal
how does it even work
Magic
dapper gyro
space marine mutations are dumb af
It's no mutation, it is engineered!!!!
humble shoal
Its not biology
storm jungle
Its not magic is the thing
late osprey
i love the space marine 1 advertisement where theyve got all the normal ass people saying they've got space marine mutations
vagrant fox
like how memories are stored in the genes, asscreed style
humble shoal
its sci-fi nonsense
Emps stole how to make them from chaos
storm jungle
like how memories are stored in the genes, asscreed style
Aw hell no
Desmond Miles ahhh
late osprey
humble shoal
So Im guessing its nurgle shit
storm jungle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoyHg6kAXWU
"IM A SPACE MARINE"
Federal prisoner
checks out
dapper gyro
Typical
vagrant fox
Man, I love warhammer
storm jungle
late osprey
i didn't want to say anything for fear of coming across as offensive
but i lost my mind when i connected the dots there
storm jungle
i didn't want to say anything for fear of coming across as offensive
tbh they 100% knew
WAIT
THE FUCK IS LANCE HENRIKSON DOING IN THERE
THE FUCK
outer wave
Man late 2000s marketing was wild back then
late osprey
He can enter a Catatonic State, you know.
humble shoal
Same energy as Mr T as a mohawk elf
storm jungle
He can enter a Catatonic State, you know.
I mean
burnt jackal
you give me that stare is if this timing is poor
late osprey
Same energy as Mr T as a mohawk elf
the one where ozzy osbourne is an undead warlock is my favorite
late osprey
I'M A MAGE
storm jungle
you give me that stare is if this timing is poor
Heres an actual lore accurate meme
(I made this one though so im biased)
burnt jackal
nah i know exactly what you're talking about lmao
storm jungle
"I'll do a couple more. Then we should get going."
"Yeah."
late osprey
Heres an actual lore accurate meme
RLM read 1 lexicanum page of your choice a la the Darth Vader Suit video
which one is it?
burnt jackal
As soon as I saw the Ultramarine helmet i knew
dapper gyro
Heres an actual lore accurate meme
The marine did not die in 1 hit.
humble shoal
Dora is the strongest in 40k
storm jungle
RLM read 1 lexicanum page of your choice a la the Darth Vader Suit video
That is such a hard question
humble shoal
Because she jas the map
vagrant fox
Proof that marines are the strongest
storm jungle
the vader suit episode was so fucking good
im not sure whats the most goofy 40k thing they can read
theres so many choices
burnt jackal
The marine did not die in 1 hit.
No but he did eventually get completely dematerialized if im remembering right
humble shoal
dance steps for a space hulk
burnt jackal
based necrons
storm jungle
"We'll do a couple more."
late osprey
they'd call it being "sporting"
vagrant fox
this is my lore meme submission 🙂
burnt jackal
Humans hunt for sport why can't Necrons?
humble shoal
My favorite homebrew is still the New Terran Rangers
burnt jackal
except instead of lions and bears it's Astartes
vagrant fox
There's at least one or a dozen necrons hunting for sport
storm jungle
hold on I got an actually based meme I also made
humble shoal
Who cucked slaanesh
late osprey
except instead of lions and bears it's Astartes
shop this so it's a necron lord on a dead terminator
humble shoal
As the greatest offering to her
humble shoal
Can I make a killteam for the ordo timeclockius
forest orbit
Bro, that is good
vagrant fox
I had a moment like this recently in tower unite and I'll never see that person again it's the saddest shit I ever felt
storm jungle
I had a moment like this recently in tower unite and I'll never see that person ...
YEP 😔
burnt jackal
Warhammer, Dark Souls, or Elder Scrolls
outer wave
Very cute meme ngl
humble shoal
Warhammer, Dark Souls, or Elder Scrolls
Gwynnes a bitch, gwyynivere is a hoe, the pontiff was right
dapper gyro
Meme lord, make something with that new series, when the knight pilot tries to connect with the machine spirit.
burnt jackal
storm jungle
burnt jackal
"Oh Holy Meme Spirit"
storm jungle
THE MOST IMPORTANT INGREDIENT
queen laurel
this just me but replace talking about warhammer with yapping about orks to someone
humble shoal
this just me but replace talking about warhammer with yapping about orks to some...
If orks are so cool then why isnt there blood bowl 2
burnt jackal
this just me but replace talking about warhammer with yapping about orks to some...
Alright so here's what you need to know about the "ORK BOYZ"
Anytime you say Ork you gotta emphasize it
celest dome
If orks are so cool then why isnt there blood bowl 2
There's a Blood Bowl 3 
queen laurel
Alright so here's what you need to know about the "ORK BOYZ"
I'm not an annoying ork fan that spams British accent
i have restraint
humble shoal
There's a Blood Bowl 3 <:clown_hadron:1067589799361400862>
Sorry I worl at valve I cant count that high
storm jungle
this is my lore meme submission 🙂
Okay last one
queen laurel
If orks are so cool then why isnt there blood bowl 2
what do you mean you can buy the game on steam
queen laurel
Okay last one
and this is one of the more calmer response you see
celest dome
Okay last one
Hmm, monkey
vagrant fox
Man, the imperium is so good and based and sensible I love it
burnt jackal
I'm not an annoying ork fan that spams British accent
Oh yeah i know what you mean, i just mean as you say Ork and only ork
storm jungle
Man, the imperium is so good and based and sensible I love it
theres a reason they'd never show this shit in animated/visual media lol
you're never gonna see a space marine blow apart a mom and her baby with a bolter
queen laurel
Oh yeah i know what you mean, i just mean as you say Ork and only ork
Look if grammar killed me for each wrong thing I get I still would not give a crap
burnt jackal
Okay last one
sly ivy
you're never gonna see a space marine blow apart a mom and her baby with a bolte...
U mean a TRAITOR and a TRAITOR PUP
vagrant fox
If I had my way we'd have more full metal jacket helicopter doorgunner scenes all over the place in my imperium
outer wave
you're never gonna see a space marine blow apart a mom and her baby with a bolte...
Fuck dude, I wish we got some actual traitor regiment/legion POV media, where you absolutely see shit like this
celest dome
you're never gonna see a space marine blow apart a mom and her baby with a bolte...
Sure Be Cool If it Did
humble shoal
Still not sure how cherubs are supposed to fly
burnt jackal
you're never gonna see a space marine blow apart a mom and her baby with a bolte...
Someone will animate it eventually
storm jungle
Someone will animate it eventually
No one has the guts
humble shoal
End of hope?
storm jungle
this fanbase is too busy drawing "owo salamndussy so nice"
queen laurel
Sure Be Cool If it Did
I would also love to see the Pearl clutching snowflakes reaction on a marine wouldn't do that type beat
storm jungle
End of hope?
That isnt really the Imperium though, its just a mom with her baby getting chaos-juiced.
outer wave
this fanbase is too busy drawing "owo salamndussy so nice"
Okay but we can have both nice Salamandunussy and genuine warcrimes committed by the Imperium
celest dome
I would also love to see the Pearl clutching snowflakes reaction on a marine wou...
Have it be Salamander, to really stab them in the heart
humble shoal
Have it be Salamander, to really stab them in the heart
Nah
Salamanders wouldnt do that
dapper gyro
Sally are also warcrime master.
queen laurel
this fanbase is too busy drawing "owo salamndussy so nice"
Coming from the fan base where the people looks of a literal insect dinosaur and say would?
I believe you
humble shoal
They would use promethium
celest dome
Salamanders wouldnt do that
Yes, they're use flamers to do so true
vagrant fox
It would be funny if it was a salamander just torching a crowd as the 3rd company does, take that one salateddy fans
sly ivy
this fanbase is too busy drawing "owo salamndussy so nice"
The 40K fan need 2 make gentle giants out of literal monstrous living weapons
burnt jackal
I think Sanguinius would like Latinas
storm jungle
The 40K fan need 2 make gentle giants out of literal monstrous living weapons
Its why I love Pariah Nexus
the moment Sa'kan leaves the civillians in his care they all fucking die
lmfao
the ending was so funny
sly ivy
Yeah that was amazingly 40K
storm jungle
a child getting shot by guardsman is not something you'd ever see yeah
sly ivy
also the tithes Bullets
storm jungle
well they "censor" it but it still happens but still lol
sly ivy
Peak
storm jungle
YEP
A lot of people were mad at the Tithes series
because it shows the absolute goofy evilness of the Imperium
i loved it lol
humble shoal
Did they not execute the genestealers in tithes?
storm jungle
Nah
vagrant fox
I saw a lot of grimderp accusations getting thrown around, man it's warhammer
humble shoal
Dang that sucks
storm jungle
grimderp is basically "i dont like seeing the Imperium do dumb stuff"
outer wave
I can understand grimderp to an extent
humble shoal
Grimderp is yrliet complaining about losing her soulstones when she has 5 in her pocket
outer wave
When everything is so dark, nothing really hits that hard anymore
storm jungle
grimperp is shit that makes no sense like the grey knights killing the sisters to bathe in their blood
outer wave
You could describe to me kids getting flayed alive and Id go "Classic."
celest dome
"Absolute cinema"
vagrant fox
Classic, I clapped when the children were annihilated
outer wave
sly ivy
Like the Imperium could be the only Golden Path Leto II style to preserve humanity
Even if so
dapper gyro
Some of the shit is over the top. But killing civilians to avoid spread of mind controling shit, I can see it.
sly ivy
The evils are not less evil.
humble shoal
grimperp is shit that makes no sense like the grey knights killing the sisters t...
Honestly I think it was a kink for someone
vagrant fox
A tragic monster is still a monster, even if the 40k Imperium could approach that after the horus heresy novels
sly ivy
And also we will never know whether it is the GP unlike in Dune where we’re told
So it’s removed even from that
celest dome
The Imperium isn't less evil than any of the other factions
sly ivy
Than Chaos? Ehhhhhhjhh
humble shoal
The Imperium isn't less evil than any of the other factions
I mean chaos
celest dome
There were paths for better factions to exist, but they were snuffed by the Imperium
humble shoal
Nids
sly ivy
Chaos is literally just the worst parts of what’s already in the imperium
Distilled
Nids not evil at all
humble shoal
Drukhari
celest dome
Tyranids aren't evil, they're locust
dapper gyro
Oh, SM armour can recycle waste and reuse it. I wonder if SoB armour does the same.
humble shoal
Tyranids aren't evil, they're locust
To humans they are evil
vagrant fox
probably but don't give the internet gooners any ideas