40k-lore-chat

[astral burrow]

Should I even bother with 95 then

Are they connected

[languid meadow]

no they're not connected

[astral burrow]

Ah sick

[languid meadow]

but if you want to watch stallone be dredd it's cool

it's a cheezy 90s action movie

[opaque coyote]

Stallone as Dredd is like

What I imagine Dredd looks like

Karl Urban is better overall, but Stallone is like the #1 look and voice for me

[languid meadow]

I love both but yeah the 95 design is closer to the comics

Holy compression

discord has murdered my image

[crystal forum]

could have just put a pauldron on karl urban

also i prefer the toned down version

i don't think 80's comic book style characters translate well to real life

[celest dome]

Wasn't Dredd's design changed due to Stallone ? In the comics ?

Or was it another actor

[crystal forum]

i don't remember when the first movie came out but it feels like an attempt to copy robocop

and it fails miserably

[languid meadow]

the stallone movie came out in 95

the first dredd comic came out in 77

or the first time he appeared

[crystal forum]

sad that we will never get a second modern dredd similar to the other one

[astral burrow]

How many dredd comics are there?

[crystal forum]

proof that box office sales does not represent how good a movie is

[languid meadow]

he's been around since 77 so like a lot

[astral burrow]

Yeah Karl urbans looks so much better

[astral burrow]

As much as idk

Trying to catch up to smth like

X-Men?

Or star wars?

[astral burrow]

Why not

[languid meadow]

There will always be more marvel comics than dredd since a lot of their characters are OLD

[crystal forum]

it failed commercially

[astral burrow]

Damn

[astral burrow]

Dredd isn't marvel right?

[crystal forum]

if we get another dredd movie it wont be made by the same people

[astral burrow]

It's own thing?

[languid meadow]

apparently we're getting a Judge Dredd show with Urban

yeah 2000 AD Comics iirc

unless they shut down

[astral burrow]

Last thing I saw about that is

A reddit post from a year ago

Asking what happened to it

Lmao

[languid meadow]

Amazon is very tight lip when it comes to shows unless they cancel it or are ready to release it

[astral burrow]

Hope he takes the helmet off in the movie I wanna see his face

Or any piece of backstory

[crystal forum]

it's karl urban

[astral burrow]

Love the setting tho

[crystal forum]

just watch the boys

[astral burrow]

Yeah and I like seeing Karl urban

I caught up

[languid meadow]

nvm 2000 AD doesn't own it anymore

Rebellion Publishing does

[astral burrow]

Do they also publish star wars

[languid meadow]

since Rebellion bought 2000

no star wars comics are published via marvel now

since disney owns it

[astral burrow]

So the name is just random

[languid meadow]

well they published the comics back in the 70s as well

[opaque coyote]

Also because Stallone's iconic voice fits Dredd for me

Idk why

I just think it fits

[crystal forum]

karl does it better

[astral burrow]

Will this movie give me an idea of what the arbites are like lol

[languid meadow]

well since arbites are just rip offs of the Dredd stuff yeah kind of

[crystal forum]

arbites deal with stuff that doesn't exist in dredd

[opaque coyote]

Generally the most recent Dredd movie is the best

But yesh

[celest dome]

Yes, the closest to Judges in 40k still remain Enforcers tbh

[languid meadow]

mostly you'll just see uncheck police brutality which is like a decently sized part of arbites

[arctic talon]

ATTENTION XENOS SCUM, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE LEX IMPERIALIS

[crystal forum]

dredd is a parody of 80's conservative policies while 40k is uh idk anymore

[languid meadow]

a parody of 80s Birmingham

[arctic talon]

40k is still calling the imperium a hellhole

It’s just not really parody as of 2e tbh

“Everything sucks, humans suck, now pick your favorite evil people to play as”

[crystal forum]

it's a lot less criminal syndicates and shit

arbites dont have time for that

[sly ivy]

Ok but also there are individual moments of hope and love

[arctic talon]

Arbites are mostly after nobles

Ironically

Most criminals are way too small

[polar hill]

40K is a tragedy, not a parody or satire

[sly ivy]

And also some kind of genuine _ agapē_ by the Emperor and Malcador even if misguided

[arctic talon]

Unless you’ve got a sector wide operation the arbites won’t care

[sly ivy]

Yes!!!

[languid meadow]

Arbites go after like cults and high end criminals

[sly ivy]

Thank you yes

[crystal forum]

the straightest similarity between judges and arbites aside from uniform is their authority to sentence people and deliver punishment

[arctic talon]

1e/rogue trader was def parody

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[sly ivy]

also yes

It has evolved

[arctic talon]

Also the original arbite minis

Were for dread

Lol

[sly ivy]

And imho actually become ennobled

[astral burrow]

Yeah 2012 one

[languid meadow]

homoerotic marines my beloved♥️

[arctic talon]

They were for a board game GW was producing

[sly ivy]

Tragedy is a high form and 40K does it well.

[arctic talon]

And then stopped

[astral burrow]

Really? Those ugly yellow and black suit guys?

[crystal forum]

i just call it greek shlock

[languid meadow]

Arbites do street level stuff to act like they don't is crazy

they have a whole ass thing for riots and shit

[sly ivy]

How dare uuidhwcuebcuwgdufbeciwhzurb

😡 😤

[polar hill]

^

[astral burrow]

I mean they already have something for non street level stuff

I would imagine arbites do street level stuff

Well my guy will down in atoma

[polar hill]

Hell the Arbites don't even just stop at street or federal level crime. Those boys fight Tyranids without flinching

[languid meadow]

they raid cults, and chase criminal organizations they're not limited to higher level stuff

[astral burrow]

Someone has to take care of the little guys

[polar hill]

"STAND AND DIE PROTOCOL."

[astral burrow]

(take care of as in kill, little guys as in little criminals)

[arctic talon]

That’s the enforcers job on most worlds

[astral burrow]

Dredds suit fucks so hard

[arctic talon]

Door kickers rather

[astral burrow]

But they are ugly

So meh

[crystal forum]

they can literally look like anything

[sly ivy]

U malign

[arctic talon]

Lord Helmwar’s finest will be paying you a visit for a donation citizen

[polar hill]

What color scheme should I make the Enforcers I'm drawing? I was thinking navy blue

[sly ivy]

the best actors in the world, either for tragedy, comedy, history, pastoral, pastoral-comical, historical-pastoral, tragical-historical, tragical-comical-historical-pastoral, scene individable, or poem unlimited. Seneca cannot be too heavy, nor Plautus too light. For the law of writ and the liberty, these are the only men.

[languid meadow]

that's a lot of Is

[arctic talon]

Imo avoid white/grey/yellow

So you don’t associate with palanite enforcers

[astral burrow]

Looked it up, enforcers do seem to be closer to the vibe I like

[arctic talon]

Who are imo the most iconic enforcer group

[astral burrow]

But visually, nah

[languid meadow]

purple enforcers...

[arctic talon]

Also I love how for gang controlled territory

[languid meadow]

rock that shit kings

[astral burrow]

White and black ones look pretty ugly really

[arctic talon]

Palanite enforcers don’t have a rule called extort like the gangs

It’s called “donations”

[crystal forum]

enforcers can look like hobos or highly equipped noble bodyguards

[sly ivy]

Damn we’ll never have racial harmony at this rate 😡

[astral burrow]

The armors!

[polar hill]

Ya know what, Imma be daring
(Navy blue with black and white checkerboard accents)

[arctic talon]

The ones on Necromunda are a private army lol

Which is why they look so

[astral burrow]

The armors in darktide for example

[arctic talon]

like that

[astral burrow]

The enforcer ones

They are pretty ugly

I like the arbite look more

[languid meadow]

I mean enforcers in general are just the nobles private army

[crystal forum]

munda enforcers are uniquely well equipped

probably since it's necromunda

[astral burrow]

God this movie is brutal

Amazing

[crystal forum]

and some nobles dont want to pay much money

so they just hire gangers

or regular people

most enforcers just go around hitting people with sticks

[polar hill]

Yeah lol
If they weren't as decked out as they are, they'd just be target practice for the gangers

[sly ivy]

And nobles are the best of us

Ergo

They are FOR THE PEOPLE

[astral burrow]

Show me some cool enforcer looks, that don't look like the darktide skins

[late osprey]

well i imagine enforcers' kit is different depending on where they are in the hive

[polar hill]

Why is Ysgramor here

[arctic talon]

“Ignorance is no shield against the wrath of the Palanite Enforcers - nor are hab walls, sanitation servitors, flak armour or the bodies of law-abiding citizens. Citizens found to be breaking the law will be made an example of. Citizens are reminded that failing to bear witness to a law-breaker being made an example of is itself a crime.”

[crystal forum]

google

[late osprey]

i imagine safer places like the upper hives have enforcers apeparing significantly de-militarized

[arctic talon]

They can look however the fuck you want

[late osprey]

what we see in munda is essentially them SWAT-moding

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[astral burrow]

Oh my fucking god

Dredd has

[sly ivy]

Wait r u watching the old one first

[astral burrow]

Corpse starch

[arctic talon]

The munda enforcers are literally door kickers

lol

[astral burrow]

2012

[crystal forum]

i'd be surprised if they have enforcers at all. they'd be royal bodyguards who look drippy

[sly ivy]

ahh ok

[astral burrow]

Did they take the corpse starch from dredd too

[sly ivy]

I gotta watch

[languid meadow]

most of the enforcer designs you'll see are based off of necromunda

[arctic talon]

No

[languid meadow]

because people aren't creative

[arctic talon]

Dredd used to not have that

[late osprey]

for the nobles sure, but like for the upper middle class and such

[astral burrow]

Did dredd take corpse starch from 40k

[crystal forum]

im pretty sure it's not directly named corpse starvh

[astral burrow]

Resyk

[late osprey]

you probably have just dudes in dress uniforms writing you tickets

and are probably chill for the most part

[arctic talon]

It could be independent

[astral burrow]

Same thing still

[arctic talon]

Making food out of dead people

Isn’t original

Lol

[late osprey]

but the lower you go, the more kitted out like soldiers they get

[crystal forum]

and no, soylent green had corpse starch before any of these IP's

[astral burrow]

Yeah but still

[arctic talon]

Yeah soylent green

[astral burrow]

It is cool lol

[arctic talon]

Is the first

As far as I’m aware

For like

[crystal forum]

i doubt it's the first at all

[languid meadow]

technically corpse starch is based off of many things since the concept is not new

[sly ivy]

Did Soylent Green have some pulp fiction predecessor

[arctic talon]

Humans rendered down on an industrial scale

[late osprey]

I can't believe Soylent Green stole a whole movie off of 40k.

[arctic talon]

For flesh

[languid meadow]

yeah soy green is prob the base level of the inspiration

[arctic talon]

The palanites show up in their SWAT armor all the time btw

In the upper hive

[sly ivy]

There’s that twilight zone episode To Serve Man which is hilarious to this day

[arctic talon]

Since they’re always with House Helmwar

Stuff

They’re his private army

[astral burrow]

Sure but there has to be like

Minis, uniforms

[arctic talon]

Yes

[astral burrow]

They are cops in the end

[arctic talon]

The munda ones

[crystal forum]

eating human meat is a pretty old horror concept

[late osprey]

are they separated by precinct or anything?

[arctic talon]

Which are explicitly doorkickers

[astral burrow]

Are there any other?

The darktide skins are based on munda ones?

[arctic talon]

The rougher ones are assigned to underhive, the ones in the upper hives are made up of the less psychopathically violent ones

[crystal forum]

i think the snowpiercer movie made an even grosser food with the cockroach bars

[languid meadow]

yes they enforcer skins we have are based off of the palantine

just a different symbol

[late osprey]

the implication from DT seems to be that the munda armor pattern is essentially The Standard Enforcer Carapace Armor

[arctic talon]

The palanites you play as in munda tabletop are explicitly the most violent and cruel among the arbites

[languid meadow]

to match atoma

[astral burrow]

They look cool in minis

[late osprey]

so differences would be in symbols and colors

[arctic talon]

Among them lol

[astral burrow]

But in game, nah

And the color scheme is kinda ass

Is there any other color scheme?

[crystal forum]

there is no standard to enforcers just as there is no standard to guard regiments

[arctic talon]

Not on necromunda

[crystal forum]

but there's probably similarities

actually enforcers are closer to PDF's

[arctic talon]

Necromunda enforcers are always white/grey with yellow

Symbol changes based on hive they’re in

[astral burrow]

In 40k I mean

[arctic talon]

Yes

The enforcers in Vargaunta do not

Dress like the munda enforcers armor wise

[astral burrow]

But there are regiments with set guard styles

[crystal forum]

come to think it, mordian iron guard are like a regimental enforcer unit

[astral burrow]

Imma just check every enforcer mini

[languid meadow]

but like I'm pretty sure we have no other offical enforcer designs rn with the only one being necromundas take on them

[crystal forum]

iron guard's role on their planet is to be enforcers

[astral burrow]

Hope darktide gets more enforcer skins

[arctic talon]

They have something resembling cadian flak armor with a rebreather and such lol

[astral burrow]

They love recoloring

[arctic talon]

For SWAT situations

[crystal forum]

what do you mean

[astral burrow]

Like, every regiment has their own set look one might like

[late osprey]

we're one short of a pattern, and yes you can call the cadian armor design the "standard" because the plurality of regiments use it

"The Cadian Shock Troopers for example use the most standard pattern of Imperial Flak Armour, tight fitting jackets or tabards with armoured helmets" - lexicanum

[astral burrow]

Are there any enforcers like that besides necromunda

Uniforms, set style

That's the question

[arctic talon]

We have the ones in warhammer crime

But we don’t see the door kickers

[astral burrow]

The book?

[arctic talon]

Aside from a short description

[astral burrow]

Yeah can't see those

[crystal forum]

the sheet of guard regiments you see made by fans is just a tiny portion of every regiment mentioned in lore. a lot of them end up looking similar by definition

[astral burrow]

No, I mean like

[arctic talon]

They’re just stated to be in standard Flak armor and to have sealed helmets

Standard flak armor could mean

Literally fucking anything

[astral burrow]

There is krieg look, cadian look, elysian look, vostvoyan look, steel legion look, chem dog look

[late osprey]

cadian one is like

the most Generic one

[astral burrow]

Yep

[languid meadow]

yeah those guard regiments are "elite" technically

[arctic talon]

Cadians are in lore 90% standard kit

Any regiment with significant lore

Are the best of the guard

[astral burrow]

I know

[arctic talon]

Access to baneblades Ect.

I wish GW made another fake baneblade mini

Lol

[astral burrow]

Is necromunda pretty much the only enforcer type that's that popular?

[crystal forum]

again, tiny portion of total regiments

[sly ivy]

How could u 4get

[late osprey]

probable therefore that the enforcers' flak armor looks similar to the cadian aesthetic

[arctic talon]

They’re the only enforcers with a lot of art and minis

[sly ivy]

Tanith

[languid meadow]

Cadians themselves while basic are still "shock troopers" which is a hell of a job to have

[arctic talon]

Fair

[sly ivy]

🌳

[astral burrow]

Still a bunch

[late osprey]

the ones in that aforementioned Warhammer Crime

[astral burrow]

Damn it why they so ugly

[languid meadow]

tree found in forest

[astral burrow]

If they were idk purple or smth would have been nice

[languid meadow]

everyone in necromunda is ugly

[arctic talon]

Their job is to kill and brutalize people

[astral burrow]

Yellow makes them look like toys

[arctic talon]

They’re not gona be pretty

[late osprey]

do you know where in the hive that description comes up? like is that in the underhive or are they like

middle-class hive?

[astral burrow]

They can at least look cool

Kriegs look cool

Arbites look cool

Bad guys have the best drip!

[arctic talon]

For warhammer crime? It’s like when a chaos cult gets found out

They’re getting ready to raid it

[astral burrow]

Palanites didn't get the memo

[late osprey]

huh

[arctic talon]

And we don’t see the raid itself

[late osprey]

it might be a poorer hive or something

[arctic talon]

For palanites it’s in one of the supplement books

[late osprey]

because you'd think that'd be the situation where they're in carapace

[arctic talon]

That describes how they’re organized

[languid meadow]

except the cancer boys and girls of Van Saar

[arctic talon]

Well

The munda enforcers are in flak

It’s just high quality flak

[late osprey]

they are?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[late osprey]

i thought it was carapace all this time lol

[arctic talon]

It’s flak

They can get carapace as an upgrade

But the minis are in flak lore wise

[astral burrow]

Damn they shut down the entire building just like that

[sly ivy]

I love these guys — just running around with full on Dark Age tech

[arctic talon]

Which is funny

Because that shit does not look like flak

[astral burrow]

Imagine the fear of getting crushed by that giant door any time you walk into the apartment

[late osprey]

exactly

[astral burrow]

Kinda cool

What else is there?

[sly ivy]

Running around actively dying

[languid meadow]

I love Van Saar they're so cool

killteam and necromunda always cooking on designs

normal 40k could never

another primaris LT ! ! !!

[crystal forum]

carapace is rarer than you'd expect

[sly ivy]

also van Saar are the reason we have an image of an honest to god stc device

[crystal forum]

carapace is really elite by basic human standards

[late osprey]

tactical squad-based gamers are dining on caviar and wagyu

tabletop mass battle gamers are eating corpse starch

[crystal forum]

power armour meanwhile is unthinkably rare

[arctic talon]

Escher, Orlock, Goliath, Van Saar, delaque and cawdor

[sly ivy]

It has spooder in middle

[late osprey]

bro thats an AI

[crystal forum]

people always ask why no regiment is fully power armoured, well first they'd need to be fully carpace lol

[arctic talon]

Carapace is $$$$$

Oh also fun fact

[crystal forum]

imagine how much power armour would be wasted by pleb guardsmen

[arctic talon]

Munda enforcers have juves

They’re called something different

[late osprey]

cadets or something

[arctic talon]

But they’re still teens/kids lol

Yeah

[late osprey]

if i ever got into munda i'd probably play enforcers

[arctic talon]

Juves are one of the funniest/most horrifying things

Tbh

[late osprey]

i don't particularly like the aesthetic of the gangs

[arctic talon]

Like yeah it tracks

[late osprey]

van saar is closest to being cool

[arctic talon]

But also Jfc lol

[crystal forum]

doesn't really help since STC's aren't ever standardized

[arctic talon]

Juves also honestly kind of suck in general

Which makes sense

They’re teens and kids

[crystal forum]

also STC can mean anything from an intelligent self replicating machine to a dvd with manufacturing information on it

[arctic talon]

They literally get bonuses to cool, if an older gang member near them

Has a fucking cigarette lol

[crystal forum]

second hand smoking buff

[arctic talon]

“They’re so calm and collected, they’re smoking in a firefight!!!”

Juves also morale cascade

Which again reasonable

I think I’d run for my life as a 12 year old if I saw someone’s head get fucking blown off

[astral burrow]

Does dredd have an ongoing comic?

[arctic talon]

Which ends up making the best juves the ones high on drugs or the ones who are religious cultists

Though Goliath juves suck for other reasons

Despite not having morale issues

[languid meadow]

the last ones were last year I think they were one off storylines

[astral burrow]

Ah

It is kind of a dead franchise now?

[languid meadow]

there's weekly comic strips from 2000AD iirc

[crystal forum]

if it was dead the IP would have been bought

[arctic talon]

No

[languid meadow]

yeah the only time the IP changed hands was when 2000AD was bought by rebellion

[crystal forum]

it has a lot of potential for movies or shows

just look at how much the punisher keeps getting brought back to life for another reboot

[astral burrow]

Short stuff?

[crystal forum]

people love seeing criminals getting their heads blown off

[astral burrow]

Or an ongoing serialization?

[astral burrow]

Honestly Jon Bernthal carries that

If it wasn't for him I probably wouldn't have cared

He is just too good at it

[crystal forum]

there are many punisher movies

[astral burrow]

I only like the Bernthal show

[crystal forum]

did you watch the movies

[astral burrow]

He was even better in daredevil

[astral burrow]

Ehhhh

I haven't heard good things about them

[arctic talon]

You’re gona get jumped here if you don’t like the comics

[crystal forum]

so you haven't

[arctic talon]

[astral burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/syril-syril-karn-karn-andor-star-wars-gif-4656947529395886611

[astral burrow]

Never read a single punisher comic

Only marvel comics I read are

A few gotg volumes

[languid meadow]

it depends some strips are one off and some have larger stories spanning multiple strips

[astral burrow]

Some X-Men volumes

[languid meadow]

but normal comics are still being made

[astral burrow]

I am sure that one website I use has em all, sick

[languid meadow]

like there was two lines last year

[astral burrow]

But I said last one was a year ago

[languid meadow]

yeah it takes time

[astral burrow]

Are the modern ones similar to the 2012 movie

[crystal forum]

that's pretty recent

[languid meadow]

they're not as big as marvel or DC so they can't pump these things out like them

[astral burrow]

Cuz the movie is sick

[astral burrow]

Hmmm I suppose so

[crystal forum]

the modern movie has a lot of references to the comics

also it was filmed in south africa which is how they managed to perfectly recreate the setting

[astral burrow]

Oh sick

[astral burrow]

Wouldn't have guessed lmao assumed it was just america

Cuz it takes place in america

Karl urban does do a sick American accent

[crystal forum]

it looks off if you're american

[near wasp]

I walked into the game workshop store and got roped into buying some Marines and the leviathan book

[crystal forum]

karl played the "always scowling" role well

it's rare to see movies hide the face of main actors for the whole duration

[astral burrow]

Dredd sound so robotic

Lmao

[crystal forum]

he's just pissed off all the time

[astral burrow]

Yeah he is always frowning

Must have been a pain to keep that face on at all times

So curious about his backstory guy must have a reason to be pissed 24/7

[crystal forum]

his backstory is pretty convoluted since more stuff kept getting added over the yesrs

but i remember he has a identical brother who's evil

and he was raised as a judge

i think he was artificially created too?

[polar hill]

If you like Bernthal's Punisher then you'll like the comics if you give them a shot; Bernthal based his performance off of them

[crystal forum]

there's a big villain in dredd universe that's an undead dredd that wants to kill everybody in the setting since dead people can't commit crime

also the dredd comics predicted trump

[languid meadow]

I love the judge death and his cronies so much

[arctic talon]

That’s really funny

[crystal forum]

the setting is pretty goofy funny sometimes yeah

it's a lot more satirical than 40k

the nuclear war that ruined most of the world outside megacities was started by a cartoonishly stupid US president

you see it mentioned in the modern movie

[astral burrow]

Noooo the father

Damn Anderson is having the worst day of her life

[astral burrow]

Don't really have time sadly...

[languid meadow]

harrison ford

https://tenor.com/view/red-hulk-harrison-ford-hulk-ross-hulk-shield-captain-america-gif-7240629154364874061

[crystal forum]

i think dredd's world building was inspired by 1984

but what setting hasn't tbh

[arctic talon]

Happy ones

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-insect-glaive-kinsect-mh-wilds-whatever-go-my-scarab-gif-13714675391602271338

[crystal forum]

mark my words, one day some company will make a 1984 extended universe

[languid meadow]

can't wait for the Oceania series

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-25514395

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/literally1984-1984-big-brother-gif-23819293

[crystal forum]

the book is annoying in the fact that it has such good world building while it being just an afterthought of the actual story

[languid meadow]

Black soviet/eastern bloc uniforms

[crystal forum]

orwell was so good at writing that he built a whole living world to serve the narrative

[crystal forum]

i wish we had any information on eurasia and eastasia

[spring cairn]

yeah i mean

that's extremely common

[crystal forum]

not to the extent of 1984

[opaque coyote]

I think the wildest part as that

As far as we are aware. A lot of the shit can outright be false.

Ofc it would be lame if it was actually confirmed

[astral burrow]

The suspect they are holding

[opaque coyote]

But the implication that it could all be bullshit is fascinating

[astral burrow]

Honestly it is impressive he can picture anything so vividly at a moment's notice

[crystal forum]

i dont like that fan theory

[astral burrow]

Not everyone can do that

[crystal forum]

not like it could be

[astral burrow]

Nah no way

I heard the movie is pretty good tho

[opaque coyote]

I don't like it completely.

But I do like how the story poses the question for all of the world building.

"What is true and what isn't?"

Like how big really is Oceania?

We just don't know, similar to the characters

[crystal forum]

but i don't like the idea that orwell wrote specifically about the rise of totalitarianism just for it to be fake. the setting is meant in every way to have no possible escape

[astral burrow]

They change whoever they are having a war with like multiple times throughout the book, make it seem like they been fighting that country the whole time, then the other country

Literally everything in that book about the other countries can be false

[arctic talon]

We know that ingsoc collapses eventually

[astral burrow]

Or any country

[astral burrow]

Really?

[arctic talon]

Due to the glossary

[crystal forum]

no we dont actually wolf

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[astral burrow]

Glossary?

[arctic talon]

It talks about it in past tense

[astral burrow]

Idk what that means lol

[arctic talon]

For the colang

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, countries like North Korea are fairly "small", but yet it is extremely difficult to escape. For the people in there, North Korea might as well be the world.

[arctic talon]

I forgot what it’s called

[crystal forum]

that is a common misinterpretation of orwell's writing style

[astral burrow]

Well the book takes place in 1984

[arctic talon]

Not double speak

[astral burrow]

1984 is in the past

[arctic talon]

It literally talks about it in the language in past tense

[crystal forum]

the ending is not written by a future historian

[opaque coyote]

It was written before 1984 (the year) so no

[astral burrow]

Hmmm

[crystal forum]

it is written that way wolf because that is how a novel is written

[astral burrow]

Well we will never know cuz there won't be a sequel...

[crystal forum]

orwell himself is the narrator at the end

he is speaking according to the era when the book was published

[arctic talon]

I thought it was still in the books universe lol

So nvm

If that’s the case

[opaque coyote]

I think it is generally true that Ingsoc will collapse.

[crystal forum]

just think of it this way, how would the future know about oldspeak if newspeak would have replaced oldspeak by 2050 or whenever the narrator dates it

the narrator cites current 1940's experts when he says that oldspeak was predicted to be replaced

[arctic talon]

Because it collapsed before it took over

Was my logic

I read this shit in 9th grade

My memories fuzzy lol

[crystal forum]

oldspeak is completely deleted from existence wolf

that is the function of doublethink

[arctic talon]

It isn’t by the end of the book yet

Oldspeak still exists

[crystal forum]

barely, and only because winston was born before the party took power

[arctic talon]

Yeah but it still exists is my point

W/e this discussion is pointless lol

It’s just what I thought when I was in 9th grade

I haven’t read the book since it was assigned reading

[crystal forum]

the setting isn't meant to have any hope. that's all i can really say

[polar hill]

I read something recently that said people no longer understand writing in third-person omniscient

[polar hill]

I was worried that was the case in this discussion for a sec lol

[arctic talon]

Jesus lol

[crystal forum]

i wish i knew of more 1984 directly inspired settings

[arctic talon]

No I can read 3rd person omniscient

[crystal forum]

i like it a lot

[arctic talon]

I just interpreted the appendix wrong

When I was like

[crystal forum]

forever winter is good so far

[arctic talon]

14? Lol

I haven’t read the book since

So nothing challenged that idea in my head

[crystal forum]

a lot of people believe this so you're not dumb

[arctic talon]

That ingsoc blew up

Lol

[arctic talon]

I wonder if it’s because it’s assigned reading in a lot of US high schools

So people get that idea early on

And it sticks

[crystal forum]

it's a good book but yeah probably too complicated for highschoolers

probably contributes to the fact that a lot of people really don't understand what it's meant to criticize

[astral burrow]

Honestly I am surprised dredd genuinely takes Anderson's word for things

Like she is throwing around crazy accusations and he just goes with it lmao

I love the dynamic between the two

Is she in the comics?

[polar hill]

To clarify: by "people", what I read specifically referred to Zoomers

[arctic talon]

I am a zoomer

Im 21 lol

[crystal forum]

people tend to think that 1984 predicted mass surveillance and its bad sides but imo the thing it was really showing was how people would be fine with this

[crystal forum]

people have been warning about falling literacy rates for so long that i really want to know what their definition of illiterate is

[arctic talon]

Illiterate just means unable to read

[crystal forum]

just because somebody doesn't read books doesn't make them illiterate

[polar hill]

Would've and would of.

[crystal forum]

dont you mean would have

[polar hill]

No

Would stove

[crystal forum]

french also has these funny commonly known mistakes

maybe every language does

[polar hill]

No kiddin'

French is easily the most fake of all the Romance languages

[crystal forum]

the funny thing is how many professional writers i know of who make a ton of these mistakes

[crystal forum]

what does fake mean

[spring cairn]

rien

[polar hill]

Not real

[crystal forum]

it was largely overhauled after the french revolution which kinda sucks

[arctic talon]

Insert joke about Quebec

[polar hill]

I refuse to believe there's a language in which you can say ouvelouvedouvasouvouvoufeuf and have it mean, like, ten different sentences

[crystal forum]

a bunch of poets inserted "pretty" rules into french

and it's such a stupidly complicated language to write in correctly

[astral burrow]

God this movie is stressing me out

The tension is crazy

[crystal forum]

watch it alone

[astral burrow]

Okay "judgement time" is corny as fuck

[astral burrow]

I am

[arctic talon]

Opposite of Chinese where they simplified how it’s written

Lol

[crystal forum]

buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

[astral burrow]

I love it when judge dredd said judgement time and judged all over the place

[arctic talon]

Downside: simplified Chinese looks ugly and words lose meaning

Upside: it’s way easier to learn

[crystal forum]

french isn't hard to break into like chinese, it's just really hard to master

[polar hill]

How dare you say that about my mother

[arctic talon]

Neat

Though imo it being hard to “break into”

Is due to a lot of people having a western language background

So some syntax/grammatical things are weird

[celest dome]

Beaucoup de Francophone on du mal à écrire correctement.
Les dictées ont toujours été ma bête noire.

[crystal forum]

you forgot to put a S on francophones

also ont not on

[astral burrow]

Damn I didn't expect ||corrupt judges|| dredd 2012

That wouldn't happen to arbites smh smh

[celest dome]

Merde

[astral burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/syril-syril-karn-karn-andor-star-wars-gif-4656947529395886611

[celest dome]

Nah it does

[crystal forum]

past participle will haunt me forever

also tout tous toutes

[proven needle]

Pretty sure that was sarcasm 😆

[crystal forum]

krait you have not been watching the movie long enough to get to the corrupt jduges part

[celest dome]

In Belgium we call the last 2 years of secondary courses Poésie (not used much anymore) and Réthorique (usually called Rétho).
And I had a really old school teacher that for some reason wanted to have dictation back, and I just went at those without any other intent than having a 0 anyway

[crystal forum]

in quebec we spend most of highschool learning France french and the last year or so learning a bit about quebec french.

but it's mostly treated as an artistic choice which i find fucked

it's like learning british english for most of your life and at the very end you learn american english as some sort of mongrel second class variation that is not proper

i wish we went the american route of just adopting our own dictionary instead of trying to erase centuries of local variations

[astral burrow]

I am literally 1 hour + in

I am at the part where ||Anderson frees herself cuz the idiot blows his own arm up||

[astral burrow]

Deadass?

Chaos arbites is crazy

[crystal forum]

would be hard to find one and i would judge you for writing one

[vital kernel]

Fun scene

[grand hound]

Don't believe I've ever seen Chaos Arbites mentioned in any part of the lore, we've had other corrupted parts of the Imperium ofc, but I believe they and the imperial assassins have never been mentioned getting turned

[opaque coyote]

I think the Arbites usually don't turn to Chaos primarily because

They had to study all that law bullshit

They ain't throwing it away

[crystal forum]

that would not help

they are fanatical loyalists

[astral burrow]

God lex is stupid

[astral burrow]

Honestly I been waiting for her to use her powers to save herself since the elevator

[opaque coyote]

"I HAD TO STUDY FOR 20 YEARS ON THE LEX IMPERIALIS. I HAVE A LAW DEGREE. I AIN'T THROWING IT AWAY TO KILL PEOPLE. I ALREADY DO THAT ON A DAILY BASIS."

• An Arbite right before shooting a daemon

[crystal forum]

they treat the imperial law the same as how sisters of battle treat the god emperor

also arbites are meant to be self sufficient so people who fall easily to chaos are pruned out in training

they're meant to operate even when a planet has fallen to chaos

[vital kernel]

Arbites are more chaos resistant than Inquisitors since their only interaction with heretics is blowing their brains out.

[crystal forum]

the reason that their HQ's are fortresses is so they can hold out while the whole planet wants to kill them

for an arbites to fall to chaos it would probably require convincing them that the imperial law is against the imperium or something

[crystal forum]

they still extract information from captured cultists to root out chaos cells

contrary to popular belief, arbites do have a lot of capturing tools

[vital kernel]

Sure but they never have to get into the precise technicality of Chaos.

[near kelp]

Darktide question

Did Morrow's Commissar fall to Khorne?

He kept repeating "The blood must flow" and giving stupid orders

How did Morrow get punished for executing him?

[astral burrow]

Finished dredd

It was absolute cinema

[celest dome]

Yes

[astral burrow]

NOW I am VERY excited for the arbites

[celest dome]

Wasn't and was taken by the Inquisition

[near kelp]

You mean movie?

[astral burrow]

Yeah

2012

[near kelp]

Ah that's awesome

[astral burrow]

The "My gunker friend and me when the arbites dlc is out" meme makes sense now

[near kelp]

Cool movie

[astral burrow]

Gonna be hard to make an original style in game cuz everyone will run around like dredd

Hope they add some unique cosmetics

[crystal forum]

they will add cosmetics on launch according to the info we have so far

what i'm more worried about is that every match will be 4 arbites players

[astral burrow]

Penance cosmetics are a given

But those are like

Different levels of the same outfit

Commissary stuff too

I hope commodore brings stuff

[tough haven]

They say that the guard will hang him for it if he doesn’t join

And implies that the inquisition will ensure that happens if he refuses

[crystal forum]

i'll be using vet when it launches just to feel different

[astral burrow]

Wait

Arbites isn't plural?

A single one is also called an arbites?

[crystal forum]

is it?

[polar hill]

No, Arbites is indeed plural, but the singular form is Arbitrator

Like Custodes and Custodian

[crystal forum]

arbites is their fancy name, adeptus astartes, adeptus arbites

[tough haven]

The Adeptus Arby’s

They shall be my hungriest warriors

[polar hill]

Actually, wait, no, Arbites is also the singular form

Arbitrator is just the Low Gothic translation

[tough haven]

Immediately falls to nurgle

[polar hill]

While Adeptus Arbites is High Gothic

[astral burrow]

Then Lexi has a mistake

[polar hill]

So yes, a single member of the Adepta is called an Arbites in High Gothic

[polar hill]

^

[crystal forum]

calling somebody an arbites is like calling them a member of the adeptus arbites i guess

[astral burrow]

I been calling them an arbite the whole time

[crystal forum]

ar biter

[polar hill]

I already corrected myself, I was wrong lol

The Lexicanum is correct

[astral burrow]

Lexi is never wrong

[polar hill]

I just had a brain fart is all

[crystal forum]

i was going to compare to astartes but i dont even remember if a singular space marine is an astarte

[vital kernel]

"I'm gonna need bigger Cuffs."

[polar hill]

Singular Space Marines are indeed called "an Astartes" in High Gothic, that's how I realized I was wrong

[crystal forum]

yeah right?

but i swear i've seen astarte used before

[astral burrow]

First arbites I am gonna sing the "cop cuties" song from the rookie

Absolute cinema

[crystal forum]

i'll be playing my arbites music playlist i made a couple of years ago

[polar hill]

Astarte, Amar Astarte, is the name of the lady who was retconned in to be the main contributor to the Space Marines' development

[astral burrow]

Astarte doesn't hit right

Arbite does

[crystal forum]

oh god dont remind me

[polar hill]

ARKHAN LAND.

[crystal forum]

i was literally

going to mention him

[pearl brook]

Arrest me but make it sexy 🎵🎶

[umbral kraken]

the rookie is kinda mid but I want to like it

the characters are good but damn it really feels like such an unnatural depiction, as though it's for children

[pearl brook]

Is that a shockmaul in your pocket or are you just happy to see me....

[polar hill]

When is GW gonna reveal Usainius Bolt, creator of the boltgun? That's what I wanna know

[pearl brook]

When has any copshow every been realistic?

[polar hill]

Is that a real question lol

[umbral kraken]

it's more about how damn pointless the combat scenes are most of the time. it's as though the characters just show up to win

and they always shoot them once and they go down, awkwardly handle the handcuffs in a way that leaves the assailant a chance to begin a new fight

Basically bad fight scenes and low stakes

[pearl brook]

This isnt the 2008 clone wars show. Cant just kill off a main character every 2-3 episodes lol

[umbral kraken]

give us some semi seasonal red shirts that can die then idk

[crystal forum]

isn't godwyn an actual character

[young pecan]

Do not ask any police officer that's had to (emphasis on "had to") shoot someone how many rounds it takes to stop someone who has adrenaline

[crystal forum]

or wait no the emp is sorta hinted to have created the boltgun except bolters have existed since the dark age so like who tf knows

[young pecan]

I saw one video where the officer was begging the dude to stop approaching him with a machete and it took 14 bullets

[umbral kraken]

I can go look it up on YouTube if I wanted to. depends on the gun and where theyre hit but peolle could tank 10+ bullets. in fact from what I can tell people usually only fall down because of the mental shock of being shot

[crystal forum]

it's the opposite

adrenaline can delay shock

[polar hill]

He would've been alive during the DAoT tbf

Also afaik there isn't a Godwyn character in relation to the boltgun, but, funnily enough, there is an Arbites named Godwyn lol

[crystal forum]

nothing can delay a ruptured heart

[umbral kraken]

yeah true, it isnt always one way or the other. but I think people do often fall over almost consciously due to their being shot

also probably feels really weird to be shot

[crystal forum]

a lot of american police departments use hollow point bullets which don't make it any simpler given how random the mushroom effect can be

[pearl brook]

There is this one video of the Donut Operator channel where the Cop shot an armed assailant like over 30 times until a headshot ended the engagement

[crystal forum]

there is at least 1 police department in the US that uses glock 18's

and i find that wild

[umbral kraken]

what's wrong with the g18

my only real knowledge of that gun is that it can be full auto and was op akimbo in mw2

[pearl brook]

I dont think they use the selective fire very often If they have to, like most Departments, write a seperate report for each bullet shot.....

Imagine the paperwork behind every magdump

[crystal forum]

it's a fully automatic pistol

that is what's wrong with it

[astral burrow]

That song is peak

Literally too nsfw to reference anywhere tho

[pearl brook]

Best was Nolans realization who the new man in his Rookies life is.... That face of cold realization

[young pecan]

I was referencing another video of his too xd

[crystal forum]

it's just kinda useless if you're not issuing it to highly trained special forces who know how to use it correctly lol. the only other users are a handful of units in other countries

[polar hill]

I need a Bonehead implant
My first thought upon reading that was of Nathan Fillion as Buck and the ODST Rookie

I was so confused

[pearl brook]

Based

[crystal forum]

fully automatic pistols are extremely hard to control if somebody needs an explanation

[young pecan]

I remember there being something I wasn't a fan of him for but can't rember

[pearl brook]

He is forver gonna remain castle in my heart first lol

[crystal forum]

the lack of weight and super high fire rate makes them jump in the air

[umbral kraken]

yeah it's a little hard to imagine a situation where a cop could reasonably need such a hard to accurately fire arrangement. maybe if they are fully aware of where an armed assailant might come out of

but then they'd usually use a rifle anyway

but can't always get it

[crystal forum]

if they're shot in bursts they're fine but that requires a lot of training

something you cant really do when full of adrenaline and no experience

[young pecan]

You also have to remember that bullets very frequently do not stop where you intend for them to stop

[pearl brook]

I think most police could use more handgun training in general, irregardless of the service weapon model.

I dont really see an issue with the G18 in general as a service weapon because most cops are gonna shoot it in semi auto anyways where it performs like every other glock

[crystal forum]

there's a common problem in militaries where fresh soldiers will fire all their ammunition at the very start of combat due to stress

[young pecan]

I think most police could use more handgun training in general

[crystal forum]

and that's trained infantry, not police officers

[crystal forum]

can you say that in the middle of a shootout when you're full of adrenaline?

police already tend to fire way too many shots

[umbral kraken]

just give cops fully automatic deagles

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-ahh-meme-flying-shotgun-gun-gif-14718141737876867993

[young pecan]

Get this man an urban city council chair NOW

[pearl brook]

Your wrist injury is not service related

[crystal forum]

magnum research BFR is my conceal carry

it's the revolver version of the desert eagle

made by the same company

[young pecan]

Police gonna be scratching their heads really hard when you tell them that when a person of color asks "Am I being detained", that it is in fact not a threat against their life and their family

[umbral kraken]

looks it up
outfit all cops with 500 bushwhackers, hollow point!!

[crystal forum]

exploding ammunition

[pearl brook]

Thats alot of gun. Are you living in bear country?

[crystal forum]

no i'm joking i can't even legally buy one

not in this country

[tough haven]

Can we get a video version of this

[pearl brook]

Lol....

Me neither.

But Imagine carrying enough firepower to kill the polar bear behind your neighbors fridge?

[vital kernel]

You would say that knowing the feds are reading.

[tough haven]

This post was fact checked by true triarch praetorians

[umbral kraken]

I think I'd feel pretty safe in rhino territory with a 500 bushwhacker revolver

[crystal forum]

i wish

45-70 pocket monster

[grand hound]

Passing the Slaneeshi bar exam is probably incentive enough not to turn after you already had to do it once

[pearl brook]

Demo Ranches lever action 45-70 is my dream gun. If only i was American ....

[grand hound]

It's not a very fun caliber to shoot and most of the lever guns that are chambered in them rock about $2-3k

[crystal forum]

brush guns are great yeah

[umbral kraken]

id just get a bullpup in something like 6.8mm

[crystal forum]

i want a winchester 1895 which i know is a weird choice

[grand hound]

Over gassed intermediate cartridge that causes enough barrel wear to strip the rifling, bad choice

[umbral kraken]

if for home defense a bullpup semi auto shotgun will devastate anyone. that's my American mind's theory anyway

[crystal forum]

why bullpup

just get a normal shotgun

[umbral kraken]

shorter for its output so good for turning corners

[grand hound]

Shorter overall length for indoors with the same barrel length

[crystal forum]

are you going to breach and clear your house

[umbral kraken]

maybe

[pearl brook]

Just throw a frag bro

[crystal forum]

you could get a benelli m4

[umbral kraken]

kinda depends on the context. usually id probably hide somewhere or jump out

[grand hound]

12 gauge with turkey load is your best bet, you don't want to shoot through your walls lmao

[pearl brook]

Well, demo had fun shooting it but i guess he is built different. Besides, he doesnt lack for money. I just think its a mighty big cartridge within a very beautiful rifle 🤷🏻

[grand hound]

Also M4s are overpriced for the use cases, just get some Turkish import and call it a day. Black Aces(?) also makes a semi 12 gauge at a reasonable price point and is basically a beefy SCAR IIRC

[crystal forum]

idk any semi hunting shotgun

get one used for dirt cheap

[grand hound]

Lmao, lol even, ever since COVID the used market has been filled with Fudds that think a rusted shit stick covered in camo tape is worth like $800-900 if it's a semi

Unless you know the guy, it's generally not worth the headache to mess with them imo

[crystal forum]

that's like every collecting circle. you just have to go to in person garage sales and pawn shops

pawn shops probably wont work most of the time since they overprice a lot

[paper haven]

Is that Fudd gate I hear?

[crystal forum]

you can't buy anything second hand anymore online

[grand hound]

Nah dude, they're overpriced there, too, because the only place you'll find anything worth is maybe on like MIGunowners or your applicable state abbreviation

[grand hound]

I've seen things you wouldn't believe, sporterized Mausers chopped to length just to serve as a "fun gun"

[crystal forum]

making friends who hoard a lot is your best bet

[grand hound]

True, handshake deals with no paperwork and LEGAL transactions are the best way to purchase

[paper haven]

I've seen some shit, but bubba'd up antiques still sends me into a frenzy to rival Angron.

[crystal forum]

it's how i do collecting in other hobbies nowadays

[grand hound]

You don't have to register if it's a long gun in most states, remember that 😎

[crystal forum]

again, dont buy anything collectible online

it's all fake

[grand hound]

That's why you hand the cash off in person

I've bought online twice, Sub2k with an optic for like $300 and an M&P Core 2.0 for around $600 also with an optic, both shoot beautifully

[pearl brook]

As a German, this sentence disturbs and offends me.

I now need to invade poland for emotional support

[crystal forum]

the price of a regular not peak condition nagant should never be above 500$

[paper haven]

https://tenor.com/view/tough-fair-soue-gif-14430740

[grand hound]

Only one I've ever managed to save was a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser, she's unbelievably expensive to shoot because it's a niche cartridge so you have to buy from Sellier & Bellot, but she's all matching parts and over 120 years old

[crystal forum]

people price nagants these days for prices that would have fetched peak condition sniper nagants

[grand hound]

Love her to death, she's so pretty

[paper haven]

Not all heroes wear capes.

[grand hound]

Cosmoline shit stick market is where most of the Fudds give you the "I know what I've got" talk

[crystal forum]

do you reload?

[grand hound]

I had to sell my bench when I moved, don't have the liquid to get back into it yet

[crystal forum]

i want to make myself a classic martini henry

with paper cartridges

[grand hound]

Good luck, genuinely, the only thing I've managed to do was my buddy and I machined out a luty

[umbral kraken]

but in arma reforger it's used by the apparent most advanced guns

[grand hound]

They're so ass, dude, the Spear is just the newest grift and I hate it

[crystal forum]

i do want to learn how to machine but that is highly illegal here

[grand hound]

More combat weight for less ammo load per squad with an LPVO that costs a million billion dollars and barrel wear that'll cause armorers round the world to redecorate the ceiling of their office

[crystal forum]

i'll just make fake guns or some shit

[paper haven]

It's ok. The government and Sig both investigated themselves and determined that the government and Sig did nothing wrong.

[grand hound]

Ever since German bro got abducted by the cops and he had a heart attack in their custody you have to be very safe

[astral burrow]

I haven't watched the last season

Barely remember what happened in the one before that lmao it's been like a year

[grand hound]

They totally couldn't do anything to save him and didn't let him die with an easy out given his heart condition

[astral burrow]

I know Lucy and Tim got together (about fucking time) but that's it

Might catch up after my exam

[umbral kraken]

the rookie is barely above a comedy show in my mind

like a sitcom

[paper haven]

What's the rookie?

[astral burrow]

Pretty much

[grand hound]

Just trust me bro, you can drop it on the floor bro it won't do anything, we swear

[astral burrow]

It was kinda serious in the end

[crystal forum]

nobody ever mentions how the government wants to ban the very knowledge of manufacturing stuff as if people don't buy them dirt cheap illegally

[astral burrow]

But it has gone off the rails now, it is barely about the rookies anymore, they aren't even rookies anymore

[umbral kraken]

TV show about LAPD, an oldish guy is the oldest rookie ever

[astral burrow]

I hope it gets a proper conclusion soon

I would watch anything with Nathan Fillion in it anyway

[umbral kraken]

have you watched castle?

I was thinking about trying that instead

[grand hound]

Myanmar is the perfect example of why the proliferation of this knowledge can and will enable people to keep scumbags at bay, but whether or not the juice is worth the squeeze? Idk

[astral burrow]

Few episodes, yeah

I know it is much older than the rookie

I saw it on tv once in a while

[paper haven]

Castle is pretty good but if you've seen Firefly beforehand it can cause whiplash

[astral burrow]

I know there is also firefly

[paper haven]

Wait no

[crystal forum]

remember that time a reporter brought a printed gun onto a train as if he couldn't have done the same with a regular gun. not to mention he chose a train because if he had to actually pass any security he'd be caught

[paper haven]

Sorry, wrong response

[umbral kraken]

isnt firefly a sci-fi show or sometging

or am I thinking about sometging else

[astral burrow]

I miss season 1 Nolan

[paper haven]

Sci-fi western

[umbral kraken]

autocorrect exists and yet it let's sometging happen

[astral burrow]

Besides the whole dating Lucy part

That was so unnecessary

And weird

[grand hound]

All of the reporter bros make me cringe when they shoot a 9mm or an AR and are shaking and pissing themselves lmao

[umbral kraken]

lucy is best girl

[astral burrow]

She is

But come on, Nolan

[grand hound]

It's just so goofy, if you're gonna bash it at least take it seriously

[paper haven]

But it's a weapon of War. It can cause untold devastation

[crystal forum]

people think that ignoring violence will prevent it from knocking down their door one day. perfect example of modern society

[pearl brook]

Sry for the spoiler lol

Ive watched the entire series on yt Shorts while doomscrolling at work

[astral burrow]

I barely run into the rookie shorts

[grand hound]

When I try to pick up the ladies with that line they always act like I've said something vile, but the news always gets away with it 😔

[astral burrow]

It is all just this reddington guy now

Asking people questions with a gun

[paper haven]

A common occurrence these days

[astral burrow]

And the Greatest beer run of all time

[astral burrow]

Who does she get with anyway?

Skip tracer randy?

Oh the singer?

[umbral kraken]

I found out abkut the rookie cuz of shorts

[astral burrow]

I saw it on tv once, seemed nice

I LOVE cop shows

[paper haven]

Just flash her your press pass. You'll be fine

[crystal forum]

there was a local gun buyback program in texas i think and some guy brought a literal truck load of printed liberators and made a shit ton of money

[astral burrow]

Should finish brooklyn 9-9 but I forgot where I was

And Chicago PD fell off

[grand hound]

A lot of the time that I've seen people try to justify just memory holing any and all information regarding manufacture or just how to operate a firearm I don't understand how it's supposed to make individuals any safer than if you just informed them on what was going on

[astral burrow]

Like, the Helldivers gun?

Bruh

[grand hound]

Unfathomably based

Nah, it's the little internal mag pistols that were manufactured first during WW2, I think?

[paper haven]

No but that would be hilarious

[pearl brook]

The singer

[astral burrow]

Gonna print some E-11s

[astral burrow]

Guy is in for a trip...

[crystal forum]

the name is originally from a shitty gun made in WW2 for french resistance but it was reused for a pretty infamous early 3d printed gun design made by a company

[astral burrow]

Wow

[crystal forum]

a huge block of plastic that could shoot 1 bullet

still much cheaper than the buyback money

[paper haven]

One time. Maybe two if you got lucky.

[grand hound]

Were dropped so people could cap some Nazi officers in the dome, but I don't think the program ever got anything of value from it

[pearl brook]

All women of the show are firecrackers/spitfires....

Glares at Lopez/Harper....

[crystal forum]

and without saying much, we are waaaaay beyond the liberator

[arctic talon]

this thing

the gun fucking sucks lol

but it can kill someone

[crystal forum]

although this is highly illegal to talk about

[arctic talon]

it was useful, as a "use one time and steal the person you killed gun"

which was the intended role

[paper haven]

Not in my state.

[grand hound]

The "in Darktide" defense is going to be my new go-to

[arctic talon]

you kill a nazi soldier or officer, take their service weapon

it was dropped throughout France

[crystal forum]

im talking fully automatic

[arctic talon]

the US also tried to make a like

[pearl brook]

Fun fact, the madalorian uses a starwarsified one as a backup in the series.

Gun's so bad the only use for it is found in fiction

[arctic talon]

new verison of it during veitnam or something

lol

[paper haven]

Ohhhh.

[crystal forum]

yep

[arctic talon]

it killed at least one person

[paper haven]

Scratch that. I have no idea what that coat hanger is for, officer.

[grand hound]

It's just dog ass, I don't think it was even chambered in a normal pistol cartridge it was like some weird .32 special thing

[arctic talon]

yeah

[pearl brook]

So did malaria

[arctic talon]

malaria is actually dangerous

[grand hound]

It's like the fucking credit card gun, the goddamn Zip .22

[arctic talon]

it was shoot once, and you had to open the mag or some shit

to reload it lol

[crystal forum]

nah it was 45

[arctic talon]

oh

lol

[median star]

goodbye full auto welcome back volley guns

[arctic talon]

the sequel to the Liberator lol

[crystal forum]

wolf i told you that

[arctic talon]

yeah

[paper haven]

About as effective

[grand hound]

We're actually on hand cranked ARs now, Gatling helping us out again

[arctic talon]

They only made 1000 of these things lol

[paper haven]

Use smaller gears.

[grand hound]

At least green tip manufacturing isn't banned anymore

[arctic talon]

4$ per gun

[crystal forum]

the actual reloading diagram for the liberator asked you to use a stick to remove the spent cartridge

[arctic talon]

pretty economical/hj

[arctic talon]

im ngl if you're reloading that thing you're about to die

[paper haven]

It would be better as a club at that point.

[crystal forum]

you were meant to take the person you killed's gun

[grand hound]

$4 to hypothetically kill a combatant is incredibly efficient, but the thing seems wicked dangerous to use

[arctic talon]

Yes I'm aware

But if it gets to the point where you can't just dump the fucking thing

then something has gone wrong in the plan lol

[median star]

am i paranoid schizophrenic for sleeping with my pistol under my pillow char

[crystal forum]

the welrod is like a way more advanced version

[paper haven]

Good thing soldiers walk around by themselves.
Actually it was occupied France, maybe they did.

[arctic talon]

what a diagram lol

[late osprey]

FUCK YEAH, FINALLY

[arctic talon]

Honestly seeing as it was sucessfuly used to cap at least one nazi soldier and steal a gun

I'd say more likely then you'd think lol

[crystal forum]

if you have all the time to observe i'm sure you can find an opportunity

[grand hound]

I've got mine on my bedside table, it just makes it accessible

[paper haven]

Still, I think I would rather use anything else

[grand hound]

Now under the pillow is wicked dangerous and I wouldn't recommend it

[crystal forum]

having a bad gun is better than no gun

[grand hound]

But like, you do you

[arctic talon]

obv

[crystal forum]

i have a machete on my bedstand

because no guns here

[arctic talon]

guh

are machete's actual effective weapons lol

[median star]

revolver itll be fine

[arctic talon]

I'd assume so