40k-lore-chat

[astral burrow]

Trust me

[arctic talon]

He wrote his thesis on neural networks

💀

“It’ll be around in like 10 years”

(It was in fact not)

In any case there’s a difference between something that looks human and can pretend to be human then true sentience and Saipance

[crystal forum]

the thing with tech is normies always expect every single path to lead somewhere instead of the reality of the situation which is that most paths are dead ends

[arctic talon]

It’s mostly just fucking dead ends lol

It’s the reality of it for better or for worse

[crystal forum]

that's how science works

[arctic talon]

Yeah

tbh even dead ends yield valuable info

Sometimes

[crystal forum]

dont get me started on how science has been turned into results only

[arctic talon]

That’s a whole other issue

Tbh

Mostly due to people wanting to immediately make money

[scenic bolt]

MUST PRODUCE PROFIT

WHERE PROFIT

[arctic talon]

Yeah that

Lol

[crystal forum]

you can't invest in science and capitalists hate rhat

[scenic bolt]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN I WONT SEE PROFIT FOR 37 YEARS

[crystal forum]

it will never garantee returns

[scenic bolt]

FUCK YOU

[arctic talon]

You can invest in science, it’s just not gona make you money all the time

progress is progress

Ultimately

[crystal forum]

and yeah investors hate risk

[arctic talon]

Yep

[crystal forum]

and science is all risk

so getting funding is impossible as a new phd grad now

[arctic talon]

It’s possible, you just need to get on your knees and [Redacted beg investors

[vagrant fox]

shit on it

[arctic talon]

Jokes aside being a Phd student rn seems like misery

[vagrant fox]

It's funny how people at the archaeology job I worked at with masters degrees just started using chatgpt to churn out shitty papers that were written exactly the same every time

[arctic talon]

No one gives a shit about your research unless it shits out money

[crystal forum]

if you want to laugh just look up the most recent headline in engineering science news

[green loom]

Also were probably full of inaccuracies

[astral burrow]

I say again, just trust me bruh

[arctic talon]

Can I just look at scientific journals 💀

[astral burrow]

Well yeah duh

[arctic talon]

I’m not trusting shit because I see no reason to lol

[green loom]

There was a big scandal recently where some big economist site nearly published something made by AI and just full of lies

[astral burrow]

But if we talk about where we draw that line we would need to start a podcast or smth

[crystal forum]

it's usually like "doctorate student finds new way to deliver broadband data while ignoring the 80 major reasons that the industry has no chosen this path"

[vagrant fox]

They edited the parts that mattered, no one cares about the rest. It just made me realize how writing one of those papers is misery manifest

[astral burrow]

Yeah I can't give anything without breaching my friends privacy

[arctic talon]

Sounds about right

Yeah don’t

Dox your friend

[crystal forum]

i saw one about fiber optics at my last job that was literally about my domain

[astral burrow]

But if I get to work there once I get my degree, and am still here, I will show you

[arctic talon]

What did daisuke mean by this

[green loom]

I will have fully functioning builder AI within 2 weeks, trust me bro

[arctic talon]

(It’s chat gpt in a shell that pulls from existing blueprints)

[astral burrow]

That wouldn't be so bad ngl

Just make it a baddie

[green loom]

For some reason it keeps trying to write me an essay on the Boers

Anyone know why that is

[crystal forum]

dude that's a lot of research papers now

[arctic talon]

🇽

[astral burrow]

Remember that one article about glorbo or some shit

[crystal forum]

that's so stupid

regarding the topic of white genocide in south africa, "kill the boers" has been...

[green loom]

[crystal forum]

legit funniest thing elon musk has ever done

and of course it's not intentional

[arctic talon]

No, that would be him killing himself in 3 years of now on 10/30

[astral burrow]

I hope Elon spontaneously combusts

[crystal forum]

careful the bots will get you

you are not allowed to say these things about people in power who are actively trying to kill you

[astral burrow]

I hope the bots spontentously combust

[astral burrow]

You say that while I have to use vpn to access the fucking darktide discord

Cuz my government decided the entire app is used by terrorists and incels which are just as bad as terrorists

[crystal forum]

i had to share my vpn with my philipino friend so he could play helldivers with me

[astral burrow]

Really the word incel was going around for days and no one knew what the fuck it meant

I use a free VPN

Cuz I fear what might happen if a VPN purchase shows up on my card

And I am not taking that risk

[young pecan]

Sign up for NordVPN now and you can dodge government mandates just like me

[astral burrow]

I use proton

[young pecan]

30% off first three months

[crystal forum]

remember that no VPN gives you actual anonymity

[young pecan]

Use code IRONHELM at checkout

[astral burrow]

It lets me launch the app to begin with

[crystal forum]

governments can freely request information

[astral burrow]

Which is good enough

[crystal forum]

yeah just saying

[young pecan]

There's one that I forget the name of

[astral burrow]

No they can't which is why they banned the app to begin with lmao

[young pecan]

I actively deletes all information supposedly

[astral burrow]

Redact

[crystal forum]

oh right also your government has to be western

[young pecan]

And they get in trouble for this because they have no information to hand over

Yet keep doing it

[astral burrow]

They were giving free premium for a while for turkey and russia

[crystal forum]

lol

[astral burrow]

So that people could delete their discord messages

In bukk

Bulk

[late osprey]

that's the point of academia, so you don't have engage with science as a business

because the college handles the business side for you and supports your research

[crystal forum]

college in the US is already a business

idk if you're disagreeing with me

[radiant lance]

Pure science is hard to invest in
Applied gets tons
In the US, it's roughly a 2:1 ratio of private research funding to public iirc

[late osprey]

im not, im saying academia participates in the system to the benefit of scientists

academia gets money from tuitions etc, spends it on science

they have to do that or else no good professors will work for them and teach (and therefore reduce their tuition income)

[late osprey]

also this

deep tech is still comically huge but that's largely on the applied side

no money for theory of relativity in that route though

[crystal forum]

and private wouldn't get anywhere without low return theoretical research 🤷‍♂️

[radiant lance]

https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf24332
Also apparently, pure science get 37% of private funding anyway
39.6% is federal, and the rest are various different organizations like colleges, NGOs, and Non-profits

[crystal forum]

corporations apply so much science that was built on the backs of public institutions

[radiant lance]

Um at least in 2022. The proportions are different now

[late osprey]

high-risk ventures do need to generally be supported by the government

thats actually why the pharmaceutical pricing issue is there

the patent system essentially backfired in medicine

[crystal forum]

and government contracts are a pain in the ass trust me i've been involved with that during a short time

very fickle and usually hard to keep going

[radiant lance]

So how about those warhammers?
Are there really 40,000 of them?

[vagrant fox]

yea sure

[crystal forum]

good thing that reality doesn't confirm ancap beliefs

im happy about that at least

[late osprey]

well ancaps would say the patents are the problem

[spring cairn]

ancopes

[late osprey]

since patents are essentially Monopolies as Prizes

[astral burrow]

Man, I can't wait to have a degree

[radiant lance]

I prefer to use radians

[crystal forum]

the unleashed power of the free economy will save us

trust

[crystal forum]

boo

[spring cairn]

can't wait to live in cyberpunk 2077™️

but without the cool shit

[radiant lance]

If you're going to force me into corporate slavery, at least give me a rocket arm

[late osprey]

US uses mostly keynesian methods which are fairly tame and middle-road in the economic spectrum

[crystal forum]

you dont post here enough nuke

i like you

[late osprey]

government steps in to try to make the good times better, government steps in to try to make the bad times less bad

[astral burrow]

Do u wanna be invisible too

[crystal forum]

your information is outdated

[astral burrow]

Sell the world while u are at it

[late osprey]

nope!

[radiant lance]

The servers I'm in depends on my current interests
The arbites announcement made me remember
"oh yeah. there's that game that lies about having 40,000 warhammers"

[late osprey]

the application of keynesian is just pro-business

[radiant lance]

I was more active sometime earlier

[crystal forum]

yeah

[radiant lance]

We're not using John Keyne's actual original theories, but derivatives of it and creatively titled "mainstream economics"
But the general idea of "government investment is good for the economy" is still prevalent and the major theme

[crystal forum]

1 trillion in defense

[radiant lance]

Which works out pretty well for civilians
Where did GPS come from for example?
And all of those communication satellites?
And the highway system?
And draining Florida for development?

[crystal forum]

who knew that when government uses its money then things happen. tf do people learn in economics

[late osprey]

government investment in the private sector is actually not entirely 1:1, it can easily be fucked up if done improperly

[radiant lance]

Invest in trash, get more trash out

[crystal forum]

ignoring that most of the spending goes nowhere near the public

that's like admitting it's a dog shit investment of money

[radiant lance]

It's also direct investment in the economy and provides job and livelihood. These are government contracts given out to contractors who employ people. Of course, there are issues still with the executives and high end taking a bigger cut, but that's an issue across the entire economy

[late osprey]

the major counterargument to keynesian's main theme there is that the government improperly investing and meddling in private economies can actually make things worse

[crystal forum]

those jobs contribute what exactly

[late osprey]

for example, 2008 was actually caused in part due to government protections

[crystal forum]

if you're paying a government worker it's for a reason

[late osprey]

and then subsequently kept from crashing harder from gov stepping in too

[crystal forum]

i am genuinely confused on how this isn't the most generic neolib economic idea ever

what is the alternative? not investing money?

[radiant lance]

Defense spending is needed if other hostile countries are spending money on defense. I would love to move to a system where no one spends money on defense, but American hegemony (even though it's crumbling right now) did provide for a better quality of life worldwide

[late osprey]

its not about the spending of money, its about not putting it in the right places

[crystal forum]

what is the alternative

where else would the money go

[late osprey]

not spending the money at all, which is code for lower taxes, which is nice, but that's just a literal answer to your question

[rocky gale]

My bank account is a safe place for it

[crystal forum]

oh so this idea is meant to support taxes

as opposed to no taxes

[late osprey]

but in this specific case about execution/application, the problem is when the government "spends money" not on contracts for stuff like roads and schools, but they spent the money essentially to be collateral for risky investments

which, since they knew they were covered, took freakihsly risky investments and thus led to 2008

sorta like how if you knew you were invincible you'd probably live a bit more dangerously

[crystal forum]

again how is this not applicable for literally every single modern economy. bad investment is just not using money efficiently

[late osprey]

the counter-argument is just that its essentially impossible for the government to really predict how its money is going to actually effect the economy

and so it's safer to just not do it at all

[radiant lance]

2008 was ridiculously complicated, and there were also erosions of protections namely the Glass-Stegal act causing the housing market to also be connected to all other financial institutions
It was like a million dominos doing a chain reaction. Any one piece being removed would have lessened it at the very least

[crystal forum]

is that really a counter argument? the government can very much predict these things

at least partially

[late osprey]

not really, if the government had oracle abilities we'd never have a recession

[radiant lance]

Like right now

[forest orbit]

Thats way too much faith in the government lmfao

[crystal forum]

investing money in a new power plant would attract small companies to the area for cheaper electricity, is that not predicting?

[late osprey]

more incomes = more taxes = more funny money to get lost in politicians' pockets

[radiant lance]

I mean if you want the US to get away from Keynesian economics, we're doing it right now

[forest orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-the-newspaper-armie-hammer-maxim-de-winter-rebecca-take-a-look-gif-18488108

[late osprey]

im not qualified to say what we should be doing at all, im just describing the arguments as i remember them from school

[scenic bolt]

corruption is a different set than government spending

[late osprey]

right but this doesn't always happen actually

[vagrant fox]

Dorkier than 40klore talk 🫵
Solution is to annihilate all politicians, this is wisdom

[crystal forum]

what is the downside then? more power is generated and the costs must go down in the long term unless a private company owns the plant and decides to keep prices constant

wtf is this argument of taxes. it should be private vs public

[late osprey]

well the downside is if, for example, the town doesn't have the skilled workers or the means to encourage said skilled workers to it, which means the government essentially ends up paying a premium for a good that may not even work properly

[crystal forum]

that sounds like poor planning

if the government does its job badly then the answer should be getting a better governemnt

not removing it

[astral burrow]

Fire the government

Let me speak to the people, jay

[late osprey]

the thinking is that with encouraged economic growth (which is virtually identical to lower taxes/shrinking gov presence), the cheapest place to put down anemities like power are essentially sniffed out by private actors, if there's even a need for those extra anemities at all

if you're just building the power plant for funsies, you're not actually raising standard of living, you're just shifting the cost to something other than electricity bills

because it's not a profitable thing to do

[crystal forum]

the cheapest place to put that power plant will be in the place that will pay the most. nobody will build a power plant where people need it

this is viewing the government as a company and i hate it. its purpose is to serve its citizens

[late osprey]

it's economically inefficient to provide things to people in some cases, yes, and that's the other part of the argument: that the economy isn't everything and sometimes it's good to take a hit to economic prosperity for the public good in accordance to our values

[crystal forum]

you could apply that to every facet of life. it's so easy to brush off quality of life

[late osprey]

its a lot like comparing your income post-expenses to like

your actual happiness

there's some intangibles at play that i dont think any economic school can, or should, ever describe

i think its best to understand that the schools are not political guides, only guides on economic prosperity -- hence the name of the field

only you can decide how far you're willing to go for economic efficiency

or rather, the individual

(efficiency and prosperity being interchangeable)

[radiant lance]

Not always
I'd argue the soviet union was massively efficient in steel production
Quality of life increases from that? no

[crystal forum]

i think it's easy to convince people that an action is done for economic efficiency as if that's directly tied to quality of life

[late osprey]

yeah, it's generally popular to support institutions of culture like museums even if they almost always run at a loss

[late osprey]

well command economies by this point in time, having been proven, are essentially understood to be like flat-eartherism of economics

not that people really take the pure ancap levels seriously either

so the debate's just where on the spectrum things should be

[crystal forum]

that goes into the question of political intervention i think. the more a government is centralized the less logical its choices tend to be

[late osprey]

my take is that things that will fundamentally never provide quantifiable return, like museums or scientific ventures, are things i feel most comfortable letting be essentially money-pits for the common good

since they weren't ever going to be efficient anyway except in some soleless ineffectual form

[crystal forum]

im glad we agree on that

[late osprey]

but things that can actually exist and be efficient as private ventures, like the production of goods and services, should be left to the Corpos

since the free market does sniff out the best way to do those, like a truffel pig

[crystal forum]

science and cultural arts shouldn't be expected to give returns imo. the returns should be viewed as an extra positive

[late osprey]

yeah precisely

[scenic bolt]

counter point: us healthcare, it's an almost 1 trillion dollar industry it's generating a lot of economic activity a lot of jobs, to the detriment of basically everyone on nearly every metric but the ones who provide the services

[late osprey]

it also isn't a very hands-off industry

it's colossally regulated, not even mentioning the patents

[crystal forum]

i dont think basic human rights should be privatized, or they should be only optionally private

[scenic bolt]

theres efficiency to the degree of outcome or to the point of 'how much money can I get out of this'

[late osprey]

it's one of our LEAST free market industries

[crystal forum]

as in you can choose to go to a private doctor

but still get to have public

[late osprey]

the theory is very sound, the only issue is the execution

[crystal forum]

trust me i know. our partially private healthcare in canada is rife with issues

[late osprey]

its sorta like how the US has essentially free legal services, but it's difficult to get successful lawyers to work in those free options

[radiant lance]

Why is this game called "darktide" when I can still see because the lights are on?

[late osprey]

since the government seldom can pay as much as those private services

and then if the public healthcare is just so inadequate that private's the only reasonable way to go, it's really back to square one

[crystal forum]

the problem with oligarchies is you can argue this and that about their value but you will never convince a healthcare CEO to be nicer

[radiant lance]

People hate paying taxes but are fine with paying private companies
It's always one of those weird psychological things

[languid meadow]

to be a health insurance CEO you need to be straight up evil

[late osprey]

the Agency problem is the real achilles' heel with our capitalism, there's yet to be a theoretical solution that works practically

[radiant lance]

Probably because there's more freedom of choice or something
Private companies aren't implying violence if I choose to not engage with their system

[crystal forum]

i feel like it's uniquely american

[radiant lance]

No.

[crystal forum]

or more prominent in the US

[late osprey]

it's that you have no real discretion with where your tax money is going

[rocky gale]

There's the long con Conservative approach to Public Healthcare, underfund it, undermine it's Administrative element, wait for both of these things to cause the service to suffer, loudly publicise that the service is suffering, wait until people begin to be annoyed by how bad the service is, then you just got to move to remove it since everybody hates it anyway.

[crystal forum]

the funny thing is that's just doing good business

[radiant lance]

Am I allowed to rail against parties?
Not sure the rules on political talk here. I am highly politically active

[crystal forum]

you can just dont say racist stuff

we always talk about that stuff

[radiant lance]

Do not instigate or engage in witch hunts. Do not name and shame, even if you feel wronged.
Apparently rule 7
What if they're a psyker?

[late osprey]

public healthcare is still theoretically very difficult to provide effectively to >300 million people

even if all of congress was aligned on it

[crystal forum]

healthcare is a basic human right idk how else to put it

same as access to water

nobody should be prevented from going to the hospital even if they're homeless

[radiant lance]

Do not discuss politics or engage in discussions on real world events that are likely to be provocative or incite divisive discourse.
For rule 11, the relevant one
Thankfully, mods asleep

If the mods wake up, I was never here

[late osprey]

right but it's a lot easier to get a bucket of clean water to someone's house than to convince a PhD to work for pennies with their student loans

[crystal forum]

both require a lot of infrastructure

[radiant lance]

no one ping Dilara

[late osprey]

like im more just saying the challenge in execution more than whether we should/shouldn't

[crystal forum]

the challenges are worth it

[rocky gale]

It's ironic that when the UK government was trying to found the NHS they had to fight the Doctors to make it happen, now it's the Doctors fighting the Government to keep the NHS alive.

[late osprey]

i think if a public healthcare system can be implemented a la how we do public law that's effective than we should

[radiant lance]

Yeah it's kind a huge missing point in healthcare
Doctors are paid a lot, and most money for any service is because of human capital

when we get medical slavery

[crystal forum]

my province signed a law forcing doctors to work here for their first years

because they always immediately go to the US

[late osprey]

public law seemingly works because the government more or less controls the entire trade of lawyers

[radiant lance]

I'm only opposed to medicare for all at the moment just because the healthcare industry is a dumpster fire, and dumping gasoline on a dumpster fire is generally a bad idea

[late osprey]

like you have to swear into a whole order of lawyers and everything

so something similar might work if mandated for each state

[crystal forum]

lawyers control themselves dont be mistaken

they wrote those laws

they gatekeep their own profession

[rocky gale]

In the UK I think we're losing a ton of our Doctors to Australia

[late osprey]

the point is that there's a third-party that controls their behavior for the common good

[radiant lance]

The Bar?
They don't really have legal backing. It's just a highly prestigious good boys club essentially

[scenic bolt]

in the realm of US healthcare costs it's not really the doctors it's the hordes of managers and administration on both the hospital and insurance side

[late osprey]

like for example they'll mandate their lawyers work pro bono on at least a few cases

[rocky gale]

Yea Admin staff are the real beast of Healthcare

[late osprey]

in at least one state, you legally cannot practice law without being apart of it

[crystal forum]

when the insurance provider gets to overrule a doctor's opinion

[scenic bolt]

like a single itemized doctor visit will probably pass through the hands of 19 people on a good day

for something like a surgery try nearly a hundred

[crystal forum]

also american doctors are so overworked apparently

medical professionals in general are all treated terribly

[radiant lance]

Med school is probably the worst system possible

[crystal forum]

i hate the prestigious side of it

[radiant lance]

Residency is pretty much slavery imho

[crystal forum]

like are you making doctors or trying to look like you're making doctors

does a bone doctor seriously need to learn all that general stuff to then specialize and forget it after

[astral burrow]

Oh shit I completely forgot about this

I wonder if it really is good

[languid meadow]

it is

[late osprey]

actually i wonder if any modern system's tried out hyper-specialization like that

[radiant lance]

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2023/oct/high-us-health-care-spending-where-is-it-all-going

Apparently not exactly
They calculated that increased costs are 15% related to admin for insurance and 15% for nurses/physicians
Of course, there are plenty of necessary admin costs
Don't exactly want the doctors doing payroll themselves

[late osprey]

i was thinking in my freshman and sophomore years that i was wasting my time with general education shit with what felt like a victorian-era holdover

[astral burrow]

Deadass?

[radiant lance]

Although, they're missing 40% of why US healthcare costs are double

[late osprey]

the patent system could do with a serious audit

[rocky gale]

Like 30-40 years ago my mum used to work Admin in the NHS, in her department she had 2 coworkers at the same level as her, they then had 3 managers, they then had 2 managers over them, then of course they had 2 managers over them and then finally a manager at the very top.

So 11 Admin staff with 5 tiers of managership, the team oversaw a Clinic which had 4 Doctors.

[astral burrow]

Why did they give him a fucking machete lmao

[crystal forum]

i feel like it's a problem with academia as a whole. a mechanical engineer will spend 4 years learning everything about mechanical then spend 2 years mastering something and forgetting the rest. what is the point exactly? it's not very conducive to a work application since you'll already be working with other people who know different stuff

[radiant lance]

Everything in the medical industry could do with an audit
The entire system is rotten top to bottom

Everyone is competing with each other in each part to swindle the other piece

[late osprey]

we're seeing some industries move away from excess academics and relying more on certifications

may be a trend

[crystal forum]

i work at IBM and they really push employees to make new patents. go check out how many patents the company has

it's ridiculous

and of course you get pennies if you do it as an employee

[languid meadow]

more patents more money, it always boils down straight greed.

[late osprey]

patent-hoarding is not even the worst of it, in terms of what's really hurting the common good it's definitely the prescription monopolies

[radiant lance]

The important part of Academia is that it teaches skills through rigorous coursework
You don't get that from a ton of certifications

College is where you acquire skills more than actual knowledge

[languid meadow]

Evil people for an evil system

[crystal forum]

does it help for work?

i dont really see that

[late osprey]

where if you can patent a drug, you have complete control over it for at least 20 years

[radiant lance]

Yeah when you're working on things like "make a new patent"?
A certification will never teach you the skills to make something that doesn't exist

[late osprey]

not even the government or free market forces can make you push down the price

[crystal forum]

that's for research which is a tiny portion of where engineers go

the large majority of people go into product development and regular work

[radiant lance]

Isn't the whole point of engineering is to make things that haven't existed before?

[late osprey]

patents have their role, they help incentivize private forces to essentially further scientific progress

[crystal forum]

not to reinvent the wheel

[late osprey]

but there's clearly flaws

[crystal forum]

and you learn most things at the job anyways

[radiant lance]

Which has been literally done when normal wheels fail in certain situations
Like the Mars rovers

[late osprey]

you don't NEED a patent to incentivize a better car, the fact that the car's better in of itself is worthwhile because of increased demand

you do need a patent for something like Theory of Relativity

[radiant lance]

"learning on the job" is a lot easier if you have the skills to learn
Drop a high school kid into a IBM engineer position and just tell them "you'll learn on the way"

[crystal forum]

i dont understand how i can explain this better. that type of work is a tiny sliver of engineers as a whole

[late osprey]

well "need" is a strong word

[crystal forum]

and again the engineers who made the mars rover already worked on other similar stuff before

[late osprey]

also in terms of life in the wild it's all highly dependent on the industry

sometimes the school is actually important, sometimes it's just the Pit of Networking

[radiant lance]

Learning to apply problem solving skills to iterate on something to make it different is a skill

[crystal forum]

i see engineers say that often but i don't believe it's completely true

university teaches problem solving skills that are usually not even applicable to work environments

[radiant lance]

"problem solving skills" is sorta a broad concept and includes things like mindset of "keep trying shit until it works"

[crystal forum]

do you need to go to university for that?

[radiant lance]

It's definitely one of the few places that have the rigor to apply that

Compared to a certification?
Just redo the test because they want your money and aren't willing to fail you

[crystal forum]

i'm not shitting on your university degree if you have one

[radiant lance]

Yes
math/physics

[crystal forum]

those are very respectable degrees to me

[radiant lance]

But we're actually taught "you're not going to end up in a physics position, and you're able to do anything because you learn soft skills"

[crystal forum]

i wish i had the rigor to obtain physics degrees

i have a technical degree in a research field. i think what i learned is more useful to my work environments than a lot of engineers i know

[radiant lance]

There's a cultural mindset of colleges being a trade school which rightly pisses me off since it fails to recognize soft skills you actually gain

And it pushes people into going to school they don't need

So yes, certifications have their place since it's effectively a version of college more geared to being a trade school, but it's ultimately not a substitute in the slightest if you need actual innovation

[crystal forum]

usually the engineers i need to consult have a lot of work experience or they went and did a masters, mostly both combined together. i dont really go consult with a bachelors with little work experience

[languid meadow]

I checked the news and got jumpscared by Charles

Forgot he was here today

[rocky gale]

Degrees are for nerds, just get a job and do it

[radiant lance]

Skills are cumulative
There's a survivorship bias in play since you're not going to find many engineers who failed to build the skills to even attempt to learn on the job

[crystal forum]

i love my technical degree

but it's also the type of degree nobody gets lol

i wish more countries did something like that

between uni and skilled labor

the world needs less engineers and more technicians

[celest willow]

hey if all the playable characters as basically the low lvl idiots used as fodder why is the Adeptus Arbites a 5th class

[radiant lance]

It's definitely an issue in my opinion
The US is lacking in machinists compared to engineers

[sly ivy]

No lmao

[radiant lance]

We're gonna find out when it releases 🙂

[sly ivy]

Transformative benefits of university overstated imo

[radiant lance]

"I AM THE EMPEROR'S FINEST AND HERE TO ENFORCE THE LAW"

"The best I can give you is 3 crackheads for your mission"

[sly ivy]

There’s a correlation causation issue w outcomes.

[crystal forum]

it's also the same in canada. blue collar workers are in huge demand. but my degree isnt even that, it's very specific to the province im in lol

[celest willow]

what do you think it is gonna be cause am really confused on how they are gonna treat them

[radiant lance]

The DLC is also coming with story changes

[languid meadow]

The whole story structure is getting reworked

[crystal forum]

my title should be a technologist but nobody knows what that is

[vagrant fox]

We've gone from expendable cannon fodder idiots to expendable but respectable inquisitorial assets

[queen laurel]

The main reason is just they are usually in planets to enforce the main lex imperialis law so them being caught in the crossfire of the conflict is inevitable

[radiant lance]

Although, I do find it entertaining to know that one of the Emperor's finest law enforcers is being sent on missions with 3 crackheads as their teammates and equals

[celest willow]

am guessing the Adeptus Arbites will have a more leadership esque personality or maybe they are like on a low end misson as a punishment?

[crystal forum]

arbites arent like super elite

they arent rare

[radiant lance]

I really hope he just bitches and moans about being sent on missions with crackheads

[queen laurel]

they aren't getting punished

[sly ivy]

U aren’t super elite

[queen laurel]

They are just cooperating with rejects

[sly ivy]

They have a college degree ok

[celest willow]

but they are basically elite commissars in a way

[languid meadow]

I need him to scream at LC

[crystal forum]

they are not

[queen laurel]

no they are not

they are literally just a privatized police force

[crystal forum]

they're feds

[queen laurel]

Designed to keep the law of the lex on planets

[radiant lance]

They're there to make sure you pay your taxes

[celest willow]

that can kill any part of the government or inquisition if they feel like it

[crystal forum]

nooooo

[radiant lance]

JUST PAY YOUR TAXES

[crystal forum]

local government yeah

but arbites will not fuck with an inquisitor

[celest willow]

thats what i ment ye

[radiant lance]

For not paying their taxes

[celest willow]

so majorkill is wrong

damn

[crystal forum]

is he?

[languid meadow]

"pay taxes" - President Kimball of the NCR

[radiant lance]

Yeah majorkill is entertaining but isn't the most accurate all the time

[queen laurel]

not surprised the guy is pretty basic

[languid meadow]

Read le wiki

[crystal forum]

i could be wrong he usually doesnt make stuff up

[radiant lance]

THe good one

As a non fed agent, I am here to remind everyone to not break the law and to pay their taxes 🙂

[queen laurel]

either you read the lexicanum and wiki

[radiant lance]

And reminder: I do not work for the fed

[languid meadow]

Lexi is cool but damn my eyes burn reading it sometimes

[crystal forum]

but anybody could shoot an inquisitor if they want to i guess

[queen laurel]

yeah it's plain as shit

[crystal forum]

whether they'll survive afterwards is the question

[queen laurel]

this is literally the singular reason they exist on the planet

[radiant lance]

The other wiki is visual vomit tbh

[languid meadow]

Gacha ads ♥️

[queen laurel]

yeah you either go with Lexi which is very plain and very very lacking in flare but is usually correct because they go out of their way to research or you have copy and paste easy convenience McDonald's McGee over there

[languid meadow]

It's just the colour of Lexi like it's so inconsistent

Idk why

[celest willow]

so basically the Adeptus Arbites are just a more aggressive version of the SWAT

[radiant lance]

They're the judges from Judge Dredd

[crystal forum]

no they're FBI

[radiant lance]

Legitimately ripped straight from it

[crystal forum]

also dredd

[radiant lance]

They're judge, jury, and executioner all in one

[queen laurel]

what they say

[radiant lance]

I AM THE LAW

[languid meadow]

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-waddle-penguin-waddle-the-punisher-gif-4486728515597025434

[celest willow]

so your stereotypical dystopian cops

[crystal forum]

also their real job happens when a planet goes to shit

[celest willow]

there literally just cops?

[radiant lance]

Warhammer 40k?
Dystopian?
no way

[languid meadow]

Yeah federal police

They're just cops

[celest willow]

i mean look at the orks

[crystal forum]

arbites start working hard when a planet is turning traitor

[celest willow]

there having fun

[radiant lance]

The orks are the only good faction
cmv

[crystal forum]

their entire purpose is to make a planet die slower

[queen laurel]

yeah but we're humans

Those guys are mountains of muscles tough enough to survive a hit that cave in our heads

[celest willow]

whatever you say Bulgur Da Choppatoof

[radiant lance]

Orkz just want to have fun

[languid meadow]

[LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]

[radiant lance]

Is fun evil?
I think not

[crystal forum]

they have carapace armour btw

which nobody in game gets

it's slightly above flak but it's not near power

we arent that special

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-2099-future-comic-mvp-gif-13339619951772202231

[radiant lance]

Oh yeah
Arbites get power armour and shit
Wonder how that works in this game

[languid meadow]

Ultron just 3 days away

[queen laurel]

They're probably gonna be not supplied much I think the reasoning

After all we are in a very distant battlefield

[celest willow]

will the lore really get that reworked alot or are we still inquisitorial cannon fodder?

[radiant lance]

So, what part of the Arbites is our darktide friend from?

[languid meadow]

I mean unique and powerful ones prob get power armour but idk about the average officer would

Or even some of their specializations

[radiant lance]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adeptus_Arbites_Armoury#Equipment

[queen laurel]

What do you mean

[celest willow]

I really hope they make him forced to stay with us as a punishment kinda like a downgrade position punishment

doesnt really make sense having a arbite with a group of hooligans

[crystal forum]

your ase

[radiant lance]

I was curious of the position he has/had
I think he's arbitrator?
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Arbitrators

[languid meadow]

I mean I bet they're just the base rank above trooper and the trees will give us some of the Specializations arbites turn into

[radiant lance]

I'm not really versed on Arbites lore

[celest willow]

bro i just learned they exist today they honestly look like male sisters of battle

[radiant lance]

They're legitimately ripped straight out of Judge Dredd

[crystal forum]

they have no lore

[languid meadow]

They have some books

[radiant lance]

Like they're 100% just a copy and paste of Judge Dredd

[celest willow]

idk what that is

[languid meadow]

The enforcer series is one

[crystal forum]

which

[celest willow]

huh?

[languid meadow]

(yes it's called enforcers but it's about an arbites character)

[radiant lance]

It's an old comic book series that got turned to various movies

[crystal forum]

the crime novels?

[radiant lance]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dredd
The most recent movie

[celest willow]

if yall had to pick between a arbite or a sister of battle what would yall pick?

[crystal forum]

arbites

[celest willow]

just askin

[celest willow]

why?

[radiant lance]

Ngl, I prefer the Sylvester Stallone Judge Dredd

[languid meadow]

Arbites have more room for character creation compared to sisters

[arctic talon]

Arbites also don’t overlap thematically

[radiant lance]

I hate anything that's popular in the 40k fandom since I think 40k is overrated 🙂

[arctic talon]

With any of the existing character archetypes

[radiant lance]

Anything popular in 40k is extra overrated

Fucking Cadia

[crystal forum]

i wanted arbites in this game since launch

[languid meadow]

That's why we're votann fans in this house

(all two of us)

[celest willow]

make me guess payday cloaker LARP?

[crystal forum]

im an arbites enjoyer

[arctic talon]

SoB overlap with Zealots thematically

[radiant lance]

The not-dwarfs are definitely actually interesting

[celest willow]

i know thats what am gonna be doing

[radiant lance]

Humans still having AI and somehow not having the men of iron situation?
Sign me the fuck up

[crystal forum]

no i love their role in the setting

[queen laurel]

That's just boring

Just have them be they can't cooperating with us

that's just like our other class

Make them truly different

[radiant lance]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Verispex_Armour
Okay, so maybe our newfound Arbites friend is wearing this armour?
This is the only plausible thing imo without just retconning carapace to be weak

[crystal forum]

arbites go hard and more importantly they are not popular

[celest willow]

arbites just feel too classy for us yk?

[languid meadow]

Also like the whole reject thing hasn't mattered in a while

[astral burrow]

Third person mod kinda sucks

[queen laurel]

They're definitely that

[languid meadow]

It's personal preference

[astral burrow]

I gotta aim at a completely different spot to hit

[queen laurel]

and?

the interactions will be great

[radiant lance]

Because literally all other arbites armour is carapace/power armour, and one is legitimately pretty much parade uniform

[celest willow]

like how will they put them in lore wise?

dont get me wrong i like the arbites

[radiant lance]

Shoehorn as per GW tradition

[languid meadow]

They're already on atoma

And rannick has the authority to just call them up

[radiant lance]

Grendyl?

Can Rannick do it without Grendyl's authority?

[celest willow]

guessing we get some snobby interactions?

might be fun then

[queen laurel]

literally as simple as

because of the threat of the heretics disrupting the planet the adeptus Arbites has decreed that it will help out the strike teams and inquisition

[languid meadow]

Rannick operates with grendyls authority

[radiant lance]

Rannick is assumed to have his authority, but I think it's technically Grendyl calling up the Arbites
It's a pedantic technically more thasn anything

[queen laurel]

Starting as a guy that got punished yet again gets boring after a while you know

all the base game classes is a case of that

[celest willow]

wdym base game classes?

huh?

[queen laurel]

the Vet, zealot, ogryn, psyker?

[radiant lance]

What if we get a person who wants to be punished?
Voluntary punishment

[celest willow]

yeah the only ones

[radiant lance]

please don't add a sister repentia

[queen laurel]

yeah that's why i said base game

[celest willow]

wait is the arbite a dlc?

[radiant lance]

Yes
$12

[queen laurel]

YES

[radiant lance]

Give the shark your money

[queen laurel]

dude

[radiant lance]

And pay your taxes

[celest willow]

bruh that's pathetic

[languid meadow]

It should be 12 for every currency if the forum post is to be believed

Since it's 12 usd and 12 euros

[radiant lance]

Gonna switch countries to maximize saving money
I hope it's 12 yen

[languid meadow]

I love regional pricing

[radiant lance]

Darktide gave out a fuck load of free shit, and this is probably the first time they've made it paid

Legitimately, all of the class reworks might as well be "we added 4 new classes to the game"

[languid meadow]

We've had 3 years of free updates tbf

[radiant lance]

Definitely massive bang for your buck from our Shark overlords

[queen laurel]

yeah I don't mind as long as they keep its price reasonable

DLC is a slippery slope

[radiant lance]

$12 is fine tbh

[languid meadow]

We're getting a new class, new weapons, and a whole bunch of other stuff with it

I'm fine with 12

[celest willow]

I dont mind paid dlc but for a whole class is just too on the nose for me i dont want the game to head in payday 2 territory

[languid meadow]

VT2 had cheaper careers but that's because there's a billion of them

[queen laurel]

i live in the philippines my guy that shit gets expensive here

[radiant lance]

This is nowhere near payday 2 territory
We'd have paid for literally every new weapon added since launch

[languid meadow]

And they were less complex

[radiant lance]

Have you tried not being poor?

[radiant lance]

$5 for different stats

[queen laurel]

listen antiquebomb it's not my fault economy is hilarious

[queen laurel]

yeah and at least with this one unlike with vermintide they promise the modes and maps to be free

[celest willow]

i live in egypt so am crying myself to sleep knowing imma save up 597.60 Egyptian Pound for the arbite

i just got enough money to buy the base game😭

[radiant lance]

Vermintide just released versus for free
Post winds of magic kinda changed their DLC system

Although, they did release all of those classes for $4
Which is honestly a very generous price

[queen laurel]

Yeah which is a good thing

paying for maps and modes kind of gets ridiculous

so i'm OK with just them charging only for the classes

[radiant lance]

I remember playing WoM on release
Beastmen were actual cancer

[queen laurel]

what if crusher but fast

[languid meadow]

Since it's the closest class to be released what price was necromancer

I forgot

It was around 12 ish CAD for me iirc

[radiant lance]

You wanted a giant black blob with enemies that have spears that could hit you through other enemies?
Beastmen.

Also they were as numerous as chaos, and had more health

Fun times

[queen laurel]

you wanted a Crusher that can somehow go fast ?
Beastmen

[queen laurel]

getting hit by a Bestigor is not great

[celest willow]

so basically the arbites are the foreign exchange students

cool i guess

[queen laurel]

uh no

they are literally positioned in planets to keep imperial law

That's their entire thing

so let's just say this branch is just cooperating with us

to finally stabilize the planet

[celest willow]

ok so 4 hooligans and 1 guy who is actually on the job

[queen laurel]

yeah but those 4 hooligans survived and are lucky enough to be accepted as actual inquisitorial acolyte

[radiant lance]

3 crackheads and the fed plant

[celest willow]

does the lore get updated through time kinda like drg/hell divers?

[queen laurel]

yes

but like as what was said

they are seemingly planning to rework it a bit

[celest willow]

ok thank you for teaching me cool information green muscle mushroom man

[queen laurel]

np

[young pecan]

Was it only tyranids that sucked to eat or were orks bad to eat too?

[queen laurel]

orks are edible but only on very specific circumstances

but Gretchen, and ork are very annoying eat

if you're gonna eat something from them it better to be the squigs

[young pecan]

What are the downsides, and specific circumstances that let you eat them?

[queen laurel]

As far as things go there's not really a downside and

When you really have no options

[astral burrow]

When you are VERY hungry?

[queen laurel]

no when you have no supplies

[young pecan]

Just that they taste bad, or are hard to chew and stuff?

[queen laurel]

really hard to chew

If you're gonna go for something that is at least edible and if cooked well actually smells like smoked ham

go for the squigs

[young pecan]

I wonder

If you stewed ork meat for a really long time

If it would be good eats

So it got softer

[polar hill]

Sorry to butt in but I just had a thought I need to put out there:

What if, when the Indomitus Crusade arrives at the Pariah Nexus and the Silent King, the Tyranids end up threatening both the Necrons and Imperials while it's still a three-way fight... But then the Necrons and Imperials team up, with Trazyn giving them Clonegrim to solidify the temporary truce?

[queen laurel]

yeah but why do that when you can just again catch the squigs

[young pecan]

Orks are more common than squigs in ork attacks, no?

[queen laurel]

squigs are just as common

[young pecan]

Squigs are better when you can get em but for diverse eatin's too

[queen laurel]

Even the smallest tribe of orks have squigs

[young pecan]

Fair nuff

Either way, more food is more food

And it isn't cstarch

[astral burrow]

And are very hungry

[queen laurel]

If you know orks like the back of your hand you would know squigs have a butcher guide

[young pecan]

Indeed I do not

That's cool

[astral burrow]

"licker"

Who tf is eating the tongue

[queen laurel]

orks

and humans

[astral burrow]

I want da gud stuff

[young pecan]

Well humans eat cow tongue

Probably other tongues

Wouldn't put it past us if we were in an even worse setting tbh

[polar hill]

Yeah tongue is a very common choice cut irl

Cow, sheep, etc

[radiant lance]

Who would win in a fight?
The lex atoma or the lex imperialis?

[astral burrow]

I never had tongue

Hopefully never will

Is pariah nexus a place?

[queen laurel]

yeah like why are you surprised humans do this stuff all the time

[astral burrow]

Not anyone I know!

[polar hill]

Lex Imperialis. More guns and, more importantly, more paperwork

[radiant lance]

Yeah but if it's a UFC fight, you can't use guns, and the paperwork makes it harder to throw a punch

[polar hill]

Imperialis still wins

Five syllables to Atoma's three

That's five punches per second

[arctic talon]

Lex imperials is in another weight class by an order of magnitude

[nocturne crest]

Lex atoma?

[arctic talon]

Atoman law book

[polar hill]

The legislature of the planetary government of Atoma Prime, and, in turn, the legislature of the Moebian Domain of which AP is the capitol

Apologies for slow typing, a kitten is nibbling my left hand

[crystal forum]

kill it

[queen laurel]

a furry suggesting killing an animal is crazy work

[lofty mason]

What piece of tech IoM has that a lot of people seem to make fun of but is actually OP in real life?

Mine would be lasguns. Lasguns would be os OP IRL logistically and tactically.

[polar hill]

Calm down Khârn

[polar hill]

Lasgun is the obvious answer yes

[queen laurel]

i mean yeah it would lasguns

Chargeable power packs and canonically are strong enough to blast a hole through a human

it's just unfortunate whatever they are shooting is not human

[crystal forum]

inconsistent

lasgun is not a consistent weapon

[polar hill]

Burning holes through humans and blowing chunks out of rockcrete

[crystal forum]

nobody talking about the fact that las pack tech alone would revolutionize humanity

[radiant lance]

Considering it doesn't obey the laws of thermodynamics?
Probably

[crystal forum]

that aside, just as a concept

[queen laurel]

I'm talking about this

[crystal forum]

it stores more energy than a car battery

and it's the size of your fist

dont even start thinking about the fact that it can turn literally any form of energy into laser

[crystal forum]

never consistent

[polar hill]

Dead power pack? Just put it in the sun. It's nighttime? Then just light a fire idiot

Luv me lasgun

[queen laurel]

I didn't say we're always consistent though I'm just stating what is said

[queen laurel]

"The pack can be recharged in many ways, including sunlight,[3a] a Charger Maw,[30] or even being left slightly inside of a camp fire (although this method will damage the power pack, shortening its lifespan and increase its failure rate).[37] "

• the fireplace method is stated to shorten its lifespan because well you know you're putting a battery on fire

so they only really do that when they have no choice

[crystal forum]

they can also use them as grenades

[polar hill]

The ol' Star Trek phaser maneuver

Turn it up to max and keep going until it makes a worrying noise

[crystal forum]

a tv remote holding enough power to disintegrate a human being

i love star trek

[polar hill]

Remember the Romulan phaser with Geordie and Ro

Absolute bull but still very fun

Imagine that scenario with a lasgun pack and two Guardsmen playing cat and mouse with an Eldar after all three get bamboozled by a teleportation beacon

[vagrant fox]

Some of the plasma or fusion reactor technology could be interesting to have a gander at

Outputting enough energy to cross a solar system in the time they do is wack

[late osprey]

Kaldor Draigo Ex Machina just happened in my Chaos Gate

i legit burst out laughing

[arctic talon]

its really funny

lol

[crystal forum]

least op grey knight

[sharp pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185650537790713983/1377071818757771314/Twosimplemuscular_546692_12510311.png?ex=6837a192&is=68365012&hm=a08557683ee7e0fed11046f1c0ba323db9adb84d907582153c85335c56d57cb4&

guys is this the lore

[arctic talon]

no

Kroot don't reproduce like that

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gif-6891886407904187638

[arctic talon]

also kroot don't have breasts in that manner

[crystal forum]

fuck off you horny weirdos

stop putting tits on everything

[arctic talon]

sexual dimorphism in Kroot is mostly shown with Spines

[crystal forum]

projecting

[arctic talon]

and sometimes beak shape(depending on author)

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-sopranos-paulie-laughing-the-sopranos-tony-soprano-gif-23785315

[queen laurel]

Best kroot female design

[arctic talon]

thats the only art

Xenology says Kroot reproduce via the male secreating some sort of weird hormone + genetic mixture onto their hands and applying it to the female Kroots back

and then the baby is regurgitated after gestation

Is this canon

who the fuck knows

Xenology was of dubious accuracy back when it came out

[queen laurel]

To be fair she is seemingly planned to be the cassia of this game

[crystal forum]

that is so fucking funny

[arctic talon]

and was canonically written by an Alpha Legion plant

LOL

anyways uhhh

I'd assume kroot reproduction is probably

not exactly that

[opaque coyote]

Y'know honestly

I'll take it

[arctic talon]

but its probably something similar

[opaque coyote]

As long as she doesn't eat me while I'm alive.

[arctic talon]

because we know kroot only have mouths for like major orifices

[crystal forum]

breasts are satan's creations

[sharp pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1365293600631423067/1371111968731299992/00huuuuuh.gif

[opaque coyote]

Eh. I would say the spine is

[crystal forum]

it's not satan's fault that your back is fucked

stop abusing it

[opaque coyote]

Nah, but it is Satan's fault that the human spine literally just

Sucks in general

[arctic talon]

other cursed kroot lore

is that they're likw

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

always really sweaty

[crystal forum]

oh yeah? make a better one

[arctic talon]

and thats like the only waste product Kroot make

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-wh40k-imperium-of-man-adeptus-mechanicus-mechanicus-gif-1633196030595994455

Maybe I should

[arctic talon]

Thank you 10e tau codex

I needed to know this key information about Kroot

[queen laurel]

I wish we got more of them on the visual variety end

like i wish we see more of this

[opaque coyote]

Ah yes

Piss sweat my favorite.

Although how does that work with the large amount they eat?

[crystal forum]

if only kroot werent a sub faction of a submissive faction

[outer wave]

Kroot
Green Kroot
Lizard Kroot
Bat Kroot

[opaque coyote]

That seems like

[arctic talon]

ask the Kroot

[opaque coyote]

A very inefficient waste disposal system

[crystal forum]

i am kroot

[arctic talon]

evolution is weird

its never the most efficent

[opaque coyote]

True

[arctic talon]

its almost always good enough

[crystal forum]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

[arctic talon]

lol

[queen laurel]

kroot can work with the imperium as mercenaries yeah

[crystal forum]

laati they dont fucking shit

that is a superior waste system

[arctic talon]

I mean we know they regurgitate

sometimes

[outer wave]

Dont they shit through their pores in the back of their bodies?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

its sweat rather

and its oily

[outer wave]

Ew

[arctic talon]

the 10e codex expands on it

[opaque coyote]

Sweating all of the waste products away isn't efficient in disposing of it.

[arctic talon]

saying it can cause blows to glance off

and its got antibiotic properties

and a bunch of other stuff I can't remember

[opaque coyote]

...I am now imagining like a fucking waterfall of it

And I hate my brain

So much

[arctic talon]

is this new stuff on Lexi

lemme check

[outer wave]

Brown, oily waterfall coming out of the back

[crystal forum]

laati you are internet goober

[arctic talon]

oh it is

[arctic talon]

what

????????

IT GOT CENSORED

WHAT

oh

Heat

ardant

[opaque coyote]

Pretty much yeah.

[arctic talon]

goddamit lol

[crystal forum]

so they are better shitters

[queen laurel]

bro they are straight up like kruleboyz

[outer wave]

Shit thats used from a social standpoint to defense from the environment and others

[vagrant fox]

The kroot will never enjoy the zen tranquility of the toilet, inferior species

[queen laurel]

but probably way friendlier

[languid meadow]

I don't care for the lore I will romance the kroot baddie

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[queen laurel]

you know what go ahead

i know someone here who romance marazhai

i'm not gonna say who it is

but they are here

[arctic talon]

probably romancable

[crystal forum]

why is it called a restroom i'm fucking dying in here

[arctic talon]

I'm gona bet all the characters they've shown off

[median star]

i still think the tau would make turn out as good burgers

[arctic talon]

so far are romancable

[opaque coyote]

Either way this type of shit is kinda cool

Wow they're

[crystal forum]

tau meat?

[opaque coyote]

Actually alien

[queen laurel]

??????????????

[median star]

yes

[opaque coyote]

I mean they do resemble bovine

[arctic talon]

okay not the ogryn

[opaque coyote]

Weird Bovine and Fish

[arctic talon]

lol

[opaque coyote]

Combo

[arctic talon]

Tau are bovine

[outer wave]

Cowards

[arctic talon]

the fish part is a meme

[crystal forum]

NO FISH

DIE

[arctic talon]

and a vehicle reference

[crystal forum]

KILL

[arctic talon]

because they're all named after fish

thats where all the fish stuff comes from

[opaque coyote]

I honestly thought it's due to how their faces look in general

[arctic talon]

No

its literally just due to vehicle naming convention

lol

[crystal forum]

wtf does that mean laati

[languid meadow]

WoTB and it's consequences on 40k

[crystal forum]

are you assuming all fish look the same

[opaque coyote]

Their faces remind me of fish

[median star]

rather fishicist

[crystal forum]

go outside and meet some fish laati

smh

[opaque coyote]

T'au don't have horns right?

Like

I kinda wish they did

[crystal forum]

they have hooves

as clear as day

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

Still kinda wish they had horns tho

Would be cool

[median star]

better qualifications for being burgerfied

[crystal forum]

no

first they must be made into a steak

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-eating-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-13425073513713719938

[crystal forum]

then maybe burger

[median star]

me when i find the tau corpse

[crystal forum]

on a charcoal grill

with some large pepper

some salt

extra seasoning

medium rare tau

[median star]

promethium charbroiled tau burger with 100% pasteurized grox cheese

[crystal forum]

slow cooked while you let the tau prisoners smell the aroma of their comrad

starve them a bit too

so they actually want to eat him

[median star]

no

thats how you get mad tau disease

[crystal forum]

make tau eat eachother until somebody gets a prion disease

then release into tau society

[opaque coyote]

Two guardsmen fighting the T'au who haven't eaten in two days due to the ration shipments being late:

[late osprey]

damn did i miss the kroot back-diarrhea lore?

hate to see it

if you dig deep enough, all lore becomes deranged like that

@arctic talon guardsmen having BLASTERS is more cursed than the kroot lore

[opaque coyote]

I still find it funny that Space Marines can basically survive off of bricks

It's a relatively minor piece of fluff that they can basically eat things people can't.

But I'm just imagining an Imperial Fist casually picking up a brick and eating it

"...I WAS HUNGRY."

[arctic talon]

Lol

[opaque coyote]

Explain

[crystal forum]

could i eat a space marine

[arctic talon]

I mean

It might be poisonous lol

With how many chemicals are In Them

[opaque coyote]

GMO moment

[median star]

well the blanch the organs itll be fine

[late osprey]

in Chaos Gate, the imperial guard's lasguns fire blaster bolts like it's star wars

instead of laser beams

[opaque coyote]

oh.

yeah that is cursed

I can imagine a pattern that fires like that though

[arctic talon]

I need a a naturally occurring animal in 40k as unhinged as a monster hunter monster

Crotalids are close

But they’re not weird looking enough

[lofty mason]

What would likely be the reaction of a Mechanicus tech priest if they encountered a droid from Star Wars

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/c/cd/Battle_Droid.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/284?cb=20160910192832

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[queen laurel]

Archaeosaurs?

and Catachan devils

and Magmakin

[paper haven]

Basically anything on name a death world.

[young pecan]

The markings of their claw just barely looking like a skull is pretty cool

[crystal forum]

"where's the skull on this servitor"

alternatively if they know it's a sentient robot:
"i will kill this abomination"

[crystal forum]

why does the imperium never avoid these things when they're stuck on like 1 planet

[tough haven]

Kroot be like

[tough haven]

Disassemble it and then potentially decry it as silica animus

[opaque coyote]

"Holy shit this thing fucking sucks ass"

[tough haven]

No match for skitarii

[opaque coyote]

As for whether they decry it as abominable intelligence.

I think it depends

The explanation for why the movie B1s were silent was due to the fact that they were factory new

Overtime they develop the personalities we know now

[tough haven]

Sounds like an abominable intelligence to me

[opaque coyote]

Although I doubt they would call it Intelligent

Considering that the B1s are

Uhhh

Not that

[tough haven]

I don’t think many tech priests really care

[opaque coyote]

I mean they will 100% call it an abomination and burn it in holy fire.

Just not an intelligent one. A failed attempt at creating an AI

[tough haven]

Do lexmechanics ever rise through the ranks of the mechanicus? Or are they always low ranking grunts

[crystal forum]

what are you talking about

not that star wars lore i mean previous statement

idc about star wars lore it's clown territory

but droids would be AI in 40k

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it definitely would. Just kinda making a joke about how the B1s are uh

Fucking stupid

[crystal forum]

still AI by 40k standards

[tough haven]

That’s what I mean, capacity to learn? It’s AI, kill it with fire

[crystal forum]

it's autonomous war machines

straight up men of iron

[opaque coyote]

Have the Mechanicus ever mistaked something as like

AI

But then realized later

"ah shit it actually isn't"

[crystal forum]

they dont realize later

they dont care

shoot first ask questions later

it's only the extremist sects that would care

[tough haven]

No

They kill it immediately

Then think “I’ve done my duty to the omnissiah”

And never think about it again

[crystal forum]

AI is so fucking illegal in 40k

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I would like to see them try fighting Droidekas.

Not in terms of who would win

It'd just be fun to see

I like the Droidekas

[tough haven]

It would be

Would be pretty simple though

They kinda have a lot of tools vs machines

[crystal forum]

im pretty sure most admech guns could penetrate shields

[opaque coyote]

Probably. Unless if the energy shield can absorb at least basic admech firearms

[crystal forum]

basic admech firearms is radiation guns

[tough haven]

Unrelated but I found this meme and realized there’s a tiny bit of Shootas Blood and Teef in the corner

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/347598466404319244/1377072757879341197/IMG_8755.jpg?ex=6837a272&is=683650f2&hm=3dda0faffae490776e6b7663c37d34f5891125e56344c4441eab81404645fb2b&

[crystal forum]

there is no basic admech

[tough haven]

Galvanic rifles

Stubcarbines

Flechette blasters

All fairly basic guns

[opaque coyote]

I searched up galvanic rifles

Wtf are Servitor bullets

How does that work

[crystal forum]

these things explode on hit

with electrical bullshittery

[tough haven]

Little bits of brain matter wired up

Put into bullet

[tough haven]

Well yeah but it’s the most “basic” weapons you get

[opaque coyote]

For auto aiming ig?

[tough haven]

In the sense it’s a projectile weapon with minimal gimmicks

[opaque coyote]

Or just regularly equipped firearms.

[crystal forum]

any heavy admech weapon would disintegrate a droideka

[tough haven]

Stubcarbines are just huge caliber guns right?

[opaque coyote]

Like how Space Marines usually have a bolter

I would call that basic since

Well

[tough haven]

Oh yeah, any skitarii gunner has it

[crystal forum]

admech dont have standard guns

[opaque coyote]

That's the first fucking thing you think of when you have a space marine wield something

[crystal forum]

they use a huge variety

[tough haven]

Random bullshit, Go!

[crystal forum]

it's literally how their faction works

[tough haven]

Gotta love weapons that totally fuck the environment casually, hit or miss

[crystal forum]

random archeotech, ATTACK