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arctic talon
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The Xenarites in the mechanicus 2 dlc as enemies

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are trying to become silica animus

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and also generally hereteks that go beyond the normal level of xenarite stuff

crystal forum
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for you non nerds, silica animus is AI

tough haven
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Yeah it better have some variability cause my gods I could not replay Mechanicus 1

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I hope you trade territory

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That would be peak

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I just want more unpredictability or interactivity

lyric grotto
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NEW CLASS COMING AND IT'S NOT EVEN RATLING???

arctic talon
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genuine question

lyric grotto
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FOr me it's because we have Ogryns and Ratlings are just as important to the guard as far as abhumans go

tough haven
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I know mechanically they’d be really similar to veterans, but still I love abhumans and I want more of them

dapper gyro
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Just saying... Since Eternal eternalled, this is feel somewhat more enjoyable on touchy subjects.

arctic talon
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its the inqusition

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and I think 3 characters from the guard would be a bit much

lyric grotto
arctic talon
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we are not part of the moebian regiment unless you pick that backstory, they are training us and we're doing some missions for them but we're not part of it

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and its only 2 of the characters

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who are from the guard

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its half

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I don't want more guard focus

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I am playing an inqusition game for the inqusition

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but none of the voices are part of the guard

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aside from obviously the guard members

dapper gyro
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All of those with Cadia background is not from Moebian from the slightest.

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So canonically, I guess the male and female cut throat.

arctic talon
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Anyways I don't want to watch this game turn into 3/5ths guard for the roster

arctic talon
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anyways point being I don't want this game to be majority guard lol

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before you ask yes I dislike all the regimental cosmetics

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lol

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I mostly dislike them

late osprey
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me? im with all the other vet mains

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i just want me scion armor and me volleygun

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volleygun i know is a bit of wishful thinking

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but the general design people were envisioning actually isn't too absurd

lyric grotto
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Psykers are mostly guards as well and I'd bet money that the zealots were priests for the guards

late osprey
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nah they're civis

lyric grotto
arctic talon
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based on voice lines

dapper gyro
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One of them were enforcer.

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It is the savant ones. They were supposed to be the gun psyker.

rose thorn
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Sylvaneth might get something big for scourge of Ghyran

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Maybe their battletome teaser?

sacred ginkgo
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Rogue trader is a fair and balanced game

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I one turned the edge of daybreak

young pecan
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I'm not knowledgeable about Arbites lore, but if they're actually real officials and (judging by the trailer), have access to the planet's resources, won't they be treated differently than the base 4 classes?

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Like they won't be rejects but rather conscripted by Grendyl?

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Dunno how that works but curious

sharp pollen
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they are above rejects of course

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as dilara said, they just join us

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it all will be explained tho

dapper gyro
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If they are on the ship, it is because someone asked them to come there.

young pecan
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What I figured

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Did not see what Dilara said of course

sharp pollen
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i said "they just join lol)))"

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she said "lmao yes"

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on the trailer release day

static wren
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Surely ship NPC lines will be different too

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Hadron might actually still be the same :D

queen laurel
shadow plover
astral burrow
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Hallowette too

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It is the random npcs they gotta change

sour hornet
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Except for the Chem dogs

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Legitimately kino drip

celest dome
queen laurel
celest dome
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Tbf Squats would have worked for the style of the game

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It's just that Ratling are the antithetical to tide gameplay

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Same way a Tau operative would

hallow basin
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I mean, Tau being weak at melee is mostly a meme, if that's what you refer to

queen laurel
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in melee

shadow plover
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and got hairy smelly feet

queen laurel
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T'au are generally shorter than humans, smaller in stature and with less muscle mass and body weight

celest dome
queen laurel
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That too

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Their entire combat philosophy is making sure that scary thing doesn't get to you

hallow basin
queen laurel
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they are famed as the shootiest army to ever shoot

celest dome
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Imagine they made a Tau centric rpg

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That could be cool and really explore the various allied races

queen laurel
celest dome
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I'd pick Niccassar uwugryn

queen laurel
balmy tusk
# celest dome Imagine they made a Tau centric rpg

How about a crpg taking place during the Achilus Crusade, and while it starts off with you creating a Deathwatch (or maybe an Inquisitor) party, halfway through the game character creation starts up again and you create a Tau party

still spruce
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Haven’t fully decided on which system to run yet, but will eventually be running a dark heresy/rogue trader/adjacent 40k tabletop game.

One of my players have expressed a great interest in playing an Eldar, but to my knowledge, it doesn’t seem fully possible? Anyone smarter than me able to convince me otherwise or possible scenarios for a story hook or campaign that could fit an Eldar with a band of typical crews you see in rogue trader vessels or even warhammer groups

queen laurel
celest dome
balmy tusk
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It's not unheard of for Rogue Traders or Inquisitors to sometimes ally themselves up with eldar

crimson grove
queen laurel
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because rogue traders TTRPG you can play as an eldar

celest dome
crimson grove
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and if you set yourself in M42 , Mankind and Eldar have a somewhat "positive" relationship

still spruce
queen laurel
celest dome
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Rogue Trader might be the most suited

queen laurel
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Both of them have eldar

crimson grove
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if you want to go toward a D6 system, Wrath and Glory also have an aeldari supplement

still spruce
balmy tusk
# celest dome Then you have the 2 teams fighting each other ?

I was thinking more like something like Alpha Protocol or Way of the Samurai, with the game going from event to event with choice & consequence where one event impacts what future events could happen. It's just some events are played from the Inquisitor side and some from the Tau side. But that's just me going "wow this sounds cool I like my ideas".

still spruce
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Like I said, eventually I wanna try each of them 🙂

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So I’m all ears

crimson grove
queen laurel
crimson grove
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hard to fully tell without trying but a quick read and character creation can help figure out

still spruce
celest dome
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Rogue Trader play more like a standard rpg tbh, while Dark Heresy is more complicated iirc

still spruce
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Dark Heresy kinda leans towards CoC style narrative and gameplay correct?

celest dome
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Ye

still spruce
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Word

queen laurel
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you can home brew one definitely

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but wrath and glory and rogue trader have pre established character classes and stuff for you to just get

still spruce
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Which system would feel the most diverse and rewarding in terms of player builds and creativity?

E.G How Pathfinder 1e has the most diversity and freedom when it comes to activating builds compared to 5e, 2e and such

balmy tusk
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So Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Deathwatch, Only War and Black Crusade all share the same general mechanics, so it's not too difficult to copy rules from one into the other (some work needed to account for balance and occasional differences). Off the top of my head there aren't pre-written rules for having eldar in Dark Heresy, but they do exist for Rogue Trader.

still spruce
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I assume Ogryns are not really supported in these as well correct? I remember reading that having an ogryn can really make or break some of the systems, especially dark heresy

balmy tusk
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Only War has ogryn stuff

still spruce
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How do they handle ogryns in your opinion? I remember reading someone importing Ogryns from OW into DH2e and it went really bad

balmy tusk
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But yes, the "base" power level of characters can differ quite greatly between the systems (particularly for Deathwatch, where players are space marines), hence the need to do some tweaking for balance.

celest dome
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OW Ogryn are fun, but Only War is more of a combat rpg, so you have less role play options than the other games.
But Ogryn don't really work well with the Dark Heresy hook of having your character be investigating stuff and all

queen laurel
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that's why characters there are only human with non humans being

balmy tusk
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I don't have any experience playing Only War, so no idea how ogryns kinda play out, but as cacti said it is much more combat-centric than Dark Heresy, so ogryns will be big combat monsters out of the box.

queen laurel
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NPCS that you come across

queen laurel
celest dome
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Ogryn are really fun in OW, you really feel like a Barbarian playing with an all Wizard party

still spruce
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If I were to try to do Only War or Rogue Trader, what are some narrative hooks and/or ideas where I could have a group of humans/a human and an Eldar working together?

queen laurel
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for rt

balmy tusk
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Not a lot of hooks in Only War as you're generally playing grunts in military campaigns, eldar stuff would probably be a temporary alliance at best

still spruce
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Interesting

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Do we know when the last update was released for both systems? I know they are pretty dated and I assume they don’t receive new content now a days probably

balmy tusk
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Rogue Trader allows for more long-term groups, could be that an eldar needs some kind of knowledge that's only found on a human world, so they seek out a rogue trader as a sponsor of sort

queen laurel
balmy tusk
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There's a Xenographer advanced class in RT which could allow for a human character to specialise in communication and diplomacy with specific xenos

queen laurel
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like you can have mekboyz modify the RT ship

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now this has a chance of going absolutely wrong and blowing up the entire ship

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But you know we ball

balmy tusk
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Maybe the rogue trader in question has some ancient eldar ruins on one of their worlds

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Or their travels take them to one

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maybe their dynasty had dealings with eldar in the past

still spruce
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Interesting

queen laurel
still spruce
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I assume an Eldar would never be allowed to cross into Human colonies or hive worlds or atoma correct?

still spruce
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Really now

queen laurel
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You could also just make an excuse that this guy is a very weird ass looking mutant

still spruce
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Or do you mean disguises

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Sorry tired

balmy tusk
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Into The Storm: The Explorer's Handbook has a section with general rules for playing as xenos, though it primarily deals with ork and kroot player characters

balmy tusk
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Yes

queen laurel
balmy tusk
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There's a specific Sanctioned Xenos trait as well

queen laurel
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Most of the time people don't know any better and you can just tell them that this body of yours is a mutant that is unusually tall and has sharp ears

queen laurel
still spruce
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Interesting

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I didn’t know there were eldars allowed to live on imperial lands, Reddit always makes it seem so extreme 1 way or the other..

balmy tusk
queen laurel
still spruce
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Like all Eldar are banished unless temp truce or Eldar were really needed for this really specific moment in time

still spruce
balmy tusk
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That's usually what happens

queen laurel
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most of the time eldar and humans will kill each other

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but alliances can happen

balmy tusk
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Eldar being driven out is the usual case, the Imperium is wildly xenophobic

queen laurel
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and eldar and that are on a personal quest to do something will usually stick with a human

balmy tusk
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But, characters in positions of power generally recognise that sometimes sticking with the xenophobia isn't the most useful course of action

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And they sometimes have the power to do something about it

still spruce
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Is there any cases of Eldar being permanently accepted into the imperium?

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Like a single Eldar or a group of Eldar?

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I know I’m digging at the bottom of the barrel, just trying to learn’

balmy tusk
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On a wider basis? In a way that most of the Imperium knows about? No

queen laurel
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again

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careers?

balmy tusk
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Careers

queen laurel
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aight thanks

still spruce
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I see

balmy tusk
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I think

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Yes, careers

still spruce
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Anyone know what the Reddit for the rogue trader TTRPG would be?

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Sorry for the trouble

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Think I found it, Roguetrader40k

balmy tusk
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There is one example of a more long-term alliance between some ordo xenos inquisitors and eldar

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the Coven of Isha

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Which apparently has resulted in there being an imperial space station with a wraithbone chamber hidden inside of it for communication

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There are also two instances of inquisitors being given access to the Black Library (Czevak and Bronislaw Zak)

still spruce
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Good to know..

balmy tusk
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In the case of the Calixis Sector and Koronus Expanse (areas of space near each other and explored in Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader, respectively), I think there is also an inquisitorial sect known as the Xenos Hybris

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Well, maybe just Calixis

celest dome
balmy tusk
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idk

queen laurel
still spruce
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Apparently eldars even have psykers..

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I am being educated

balmy tusk
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Eldars are a psychic species by default

still spruce
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Curious question, the whole Psyker Quelling thing, is that flavored purely for Darktide? Or is that a true struggle psykers deal with.

queen laurel
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but quelling can be done in many ways

dapper gyro
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It is in the lore, but they don't just expense it in seconds like in game.

still spruce
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Of course

misty vector
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The psykers in darktide would probably be bedridden after a mission if it wasnt a game

dapper gyro
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Untrained, they can go explosive real quick, like shooting 3 shots from the staff and they are gone.

balmy tusk
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Psykers always have to deal with the perils of the warp if they use their powers

still spruce
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I forget, do people consider Darktide psykers to be gamma or something like that

balmy tusk
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sometimes nothing happens, sometimes they make all the nearby food start rotting etc.

still spruce
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This is fascinating to say the least

balmy tusk
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Psyker power level classifications are a bit wonky, I'm going on the assumption that our psyker power levels differ a lot

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Assume that a psyker using a force staff is at a stronger level than one using a gun etc.

dapper gyro
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Maybe in gameplay, but in lore, they are just so so...

rocky gale
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It's worth noting that the Peril we see in Darktide when you go over the limit is basically a failsafe killing the Psyker to prevent worse outcomes happening

balmy tusk
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There's a primaris psyker reject in one of the official short stories

dapper gyro
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To be gamma as you suggested, they need to be trained from birth and then get augmentation.

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Which none of the reject is.

still spruce
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I see

queen laurel
balmy tusk
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Nope

queen laurel
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welp

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shit

balmy tusk
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Only drukhari for whatever reason

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I think

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maybe corsairs? I'm not sure

still spruce
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Ah, so rogue trader doesn’t divide races and careers? It’s all one thing

queen laurel
queen laurel
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in rt

still spruce
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Does RT or OW or W&G have Tau as playable? Out of curiosity

rocky gale
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I think RT might have a Tau

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But that may have been homebrew

queen laurel
still spruce
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Word

balmy tusk
rocky gale
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Yea, the game by default assumes you to be Human

still spruce
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Crazy that eldars don’t even have bones

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We are so inferior

nocturne crest
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So new question, but what are the chances that the chapter master of the black templars knows their entire size?

queen laurel
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took me awhile but yeah

celest dome
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Wonder if Boltgun 2 will have some fundamental changes over Boltgun 1

balmy tusk
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Twilight Crusade would be the specific sourcebook to read if you're looking for a lore explanation of Tau in Rogue Trader (it also enables Tau in Dark Heresy).

queen laurel
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allow the melee to be useful

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because besides insta killing small enemies on the first game it didn't really do anything

celest dome
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Local Multi could be cool

nocturne crest
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I did have a follow up question, but upon writing it up, I realised how silly it was.

celest dome
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Silly doesn't mean bad

nocturne crest
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I was wondering if the inquisition could plant space marines loyal to them into the black templars by making their own fake crusade group.

celest dome
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They could probably do kidnap some SM, change their minds and then return them to the Chapters

sour hornet
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The Inquisition has space marines loyal to them in the DW and GK though.

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No need for Black Templar, uhh... impetuousness.

celest dome
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BT are a bigger than the DW or GK, and both groups are over specialized

sour hornet
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Also just becoming a patron for a equipment strapped Chapter could be sufficient. Especially one returned from a penitent crusade.

sour hornet
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So doing machiavellian shit to create winter soldier Black Templars is a little too much effort for little reward.

celest dome
dapper gyro
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At least it was the original intention when GW made them. Nevertheless, they needed more SM to be special like the GK...

queen laurel
sacred bluff
storm jungle
humble shoal
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xenophobia

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and imagine not introducing the best inquisition space marine chapter red hunters

crystal forum
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where's the jaw

storm jungle
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I ate it.

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💀

celest dome
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It's like people who only use one parenthesis and forget to close them

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Somewhere another Chaos God is stealing all the lost Jaws

astral burrow
dapper gyro
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She wants bigger chin.

dapper gyro
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Ok, I know it is nitpick against cool factor... but the HH trailer with troops with only guns charging into guys with melee is so damn stupid...

storm jungle
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Its very goof yeah lol

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the toy story animation quality doesnt help either

tough haven
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Do they at least have bayonets?

queen laurel
tough haven
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Confidence is 90%

dapper gyro
queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Sally

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If it was how it happened, then they deserve to get the legion deleted.

queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Not a single dude with melee...

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And get into melee range to get clubbed...

paper haven
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Yeah but they're using Melta and flame weapons

dapper gyro
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There is no flame nor melta weapon...

paper haven
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Saw plenty of their enemies just disappear when shot

dapper gyro
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It is distingator, it is a long range weapon.

paper haven
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Getting shot at point blank range is still quite deadly

shadow plover
dapper gyro
paper haven
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Sure but they were ambushed.

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When attacked like that, your best bet is to push forward

storm jungle
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Literally nobody making this trailer put these into consideration

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"we need two toy lines to fight"

paper haven
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Here I am, doing the work for GW

queen laurel
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Make it look like a party don't make it make sense

dapper gyro
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So they rant over the hail of fire to fight a gun in melee... You can't excuse that.

paper haven
summer mural
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damn theres a new hh cinematic

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it left me confused somehow LOL

storm jungle
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whats confusing about it

paper haven
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The sign language

arctic talon
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GW making use of all the money they spent on their sign language colang

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lol

dapper gyro
summer mural
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its great and all

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but the combat was just kinda

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low stakey??

dapper gyro
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You know, it reminds me of the Fury scene, when the US tanks can kill the Tiger from that distance, but they decided to rush in and get 2 more tanks destroyed for no reason...

summer mural
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i liked the horus trailer, it was straightforward and dialed up to 11

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and the guilliman one had like everything

storm jungle
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the animation studio swap

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lmao

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The Valdor/Krole/Malcador stuff is great

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then you go into toyzone animation

summer mural
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yeah valdor and malcador were the best parts

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especially the intro

storm jungle
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Yeah that stuff is great because its just really well setup, designed and built. Then you go into grey slopland.

summer mural
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but the combat was too..tzeentchy, I dunno how to explain it LOL

storm jungle
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nah I get it

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its why I keep making the toy story joke

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its very inhuman in a "weird" way

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they just more really unnaturally because marine proportions are awkward

dapper gyro
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It is dumb and stupid with meh animation.

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They tried a little too hard to be cool.

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The 1e HH animated trailer is great though.

paper haven
queen laurel
arctic talon
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I think yeah

summer mural
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also when I saw krole all I could think about was how she gets chopped up by Kharn

queen laurel
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only 3

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boy, kommando, nob

dapper gyro
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And clearly, even when it was disabled, the troops still run out... If troops stayed behind it, you get at least double the protection effectiveness.

paper haven
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Standing still is more suicidal than attacking

dapper gyro
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Whatever you say, bud.

paper haven
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I mean, yeah? It's a debate about a fictional battle.
I can apply realistic thought to it as much as I like but, eh.

summer mural
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also im still not sold on saturnine armors

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i dunno why people are apparently really excited for em?

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i guess its the goofiness

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they are still better than dreadknights at least

paper haven
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Definitely the goofiness

storm jungle
queen laurel
astral burrow
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No shit

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Took you long enough

queen laurel
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And shows why it's one of the best selling factions in warhammer

astral burrow
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I figured that out 2 days in

queen laurel
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But you can't

astral burrow
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I can read

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I know how

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And no shit isn't trash talking! It is agreement!

queen laurel
astral burrow
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It is more fun to hear from people than just read a soulless wiki page

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Soulless as in

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It is just pure information nothing else

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Boring

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No flair, no opinion, nothing

storm jungle
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"soulless"

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mfer its a wikipage

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what do you want it to do?

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Have subway surfer on the side????

celest dome
astral burrow
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thats why i would rather just

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ask someone

crystal forum
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more like annoy someone

storm jungle
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bro just read the page

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💀

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Id understand if lexi pages were in any shape long, but they arent

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CANNOT believe this....

crystal forum
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i will summon the demon

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i sentence krait to 6 hours of arch warhammer videos

astral burrow
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it is fun to talk about things

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I LIKE HUMAN INTERACTION

crystal forum
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touch grass

storm jungle
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You two should fight

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NOW

astral burrow
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they suck

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here as in where i live lol

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and i DO touch grass

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i am out petting cats all day

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doing grocery shopping and shit

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does 40k even have glasses

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i need shades in game

celest dome
astral burrow
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almost always

celest dome
celest dome
astral burrow
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i cant find anything online

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of a character with glasses

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just normal glasses or normal sunglasses

arctic talon
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Kryptmen my goat

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needs eyeglasses

celest dome
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Otherwise there are plenty of ones where they have leather straps shades

summer mural
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so are there any cool arbites characters in the lore

celest dome
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The Adeptus Arbites are the police force of the Adeptus Terra, devoted to enforcing Imperial law throughout the entire Imperium. Utterly dedicated and without mercy, the Arbites are feared throughout the galaxy, for they are the agents of a harsh law, where failure and incompetence are crimes, and the only punishment is death. Arbites are empowe...

summer mural
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so can arbites ever like

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stop a genestealer cult by themselves

dapper gyro
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Use Lexi and Wikia, get to the notable member for some good enough reference.

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You can dig some names there.

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Generally, no.

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GSC usually needs an eradication, not a purge based on justice.

celest dome
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Depend on the size/strength of the GSC, but anyway they would probably call back up, either from the other Arbites, or at the very least Enforcers

dapper gyro
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As funny as it sounds, Arbites does work with more actual justice than most other Imperium faction.

summer mural
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she looks cool

arctic talon
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otherwise they'll need assistance

summer mural
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Shira Lucina Calpurnia

arctic talon
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the arbites can fight small wars on their own

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but they ultimately do lack manpower

summer mural
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isnt their police station basically a fortress on a street

celest dome
summer mural
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her brothers are ultramarines

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so thats a big point against her very nature as a human being

astral burrow
arctic talon
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They're for sight

astral burrow
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you just, just 2 frames joined together, ear hooks, with lenses

dapper gyro
arctic talon
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well those aren't in 40k really

astral burrow
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damn

arctic talon
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we get more gothic or weird looking glasses

astral burrow
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so we will never get any in game?

arctic talon
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you could def do normal glasses

astral burrow
arctic talon
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they just look a bit dif

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lol

astral burrow
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i just want sick sunglasses

arctic talon
summer mural
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weird comparison but

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single average arbites seems more competent than single average guardsman

dapper gyro
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They get more formal training and education (indoctrination) than the guards.

arctic talon
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so they're more fanatical and well trained yeah

summer mural
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yeah that police station is packing some serious construction

arctic talon
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now granted they aren't trained as soldiers

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they're trained as you know FEDS

dapper gyro
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Veteran guard is as good in term of combat performance though.

storm jungle
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some are big/equipped enough to fight small or medium wars by themselves

crystal forum
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smh

dapper gyro
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Stormtroopers or Kasrkin level would absolutely smoke the Arbites, it is not even close.

summer mural
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does the arbites like kill everyone in a room then turn to his hot sidekick arbites and go like " This room has been pacified."

dapper gyro
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Maybe

summer mural
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LOL

dapper gyro
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Shit, barring the guard, it sounds more and more like those "Who can't do military so they join the police."

arctic talon
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well

summer mural
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well, you can say shit like " Throw down your weapons or prepare to be judged!" the guard has mid battle cries

dapper gyro
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For women, if the fail to join the SoB, then fail the Tempestus Scion, their last chance is Arbites...

arctic talon
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arbites are drawn from people who are good at fighting + nerds

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arbites are the fucking nerds

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who are good at fighting

celest dome
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Arbites is probably harder to join than the Scions...

arctic talon
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If you're actually just a nerd you become a scribe

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tbf yeah you need book smarts

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to be an arbite

nocturne crest
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I wonder if they'll make the repressor in plastic for imperial agents/Sisters of battle.

arctic talon
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Scions don't need to be super intelligent regarding things like laws and definitions

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They need to kill good, follow orders and know how to use their weapons

winter vessel
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speaking of scions, purchased my first official mini set

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technically Aquilons

languid meadow
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Also tbf arbites don't really get to "choose" to join the ranks either

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If you fit you're chosen to be one

nocturne crest
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So do arbites only have one colour scheme or are there others?

storm jungle
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1 scheme

summer mural
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celest dome
# storm jungle 1 scheme

Though nothing would stop ones from having differently coloured ones and saying they're attached to a specific precinct or what ever

celest dome
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Do we think that Sister of Sigmar might appear in Old World ?

queen laurel
celest dome
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Do you think they should or not ?

queen laurel
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sisters of battle and sisters of silence are a thing

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it's just not my thing

celest dome
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Sister of Sigmar were cool

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True Aura

arctic talon
#

since warrior priests aren't gender locked in AoS

celest dome
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Are or aren't locked ?

languid meadow
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I hope they come back since weapon wielding nuns is always cool plus mordheim related stuff is cool

arctic talon
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sorry

celest dome
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No worry

languid meadow
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Begging that this novel ends up good

arctic talon
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but imo if we get an updated warrior priest mini

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I'm 100% sure it'll have male/female heads

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tbh

arctic talon
languid meadow
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I just hope it's good for necrons and not just an imperium wank fest (Gman and cawl are in it so prob)

celest dome
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||It will though 💀||

languid meadow
queen laurel
arctic talon
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They made Bretonnia no longer the most comically sexist fictional faction in all of warhammer yes

queen laurel
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Because back then it was so bad they had to put a warning that if you want to play them in the role playing game it's OK if you ignore their sexism

late osprey
#

its just having women models of knights innit

golden imp
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Are there pyskers in the custodes?

arctic talon
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If there’s psychic potential in a baby that goes through gene alchemy

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Then it sure as shit gets rid of it

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Or the baby just dies due to incompatibility with gene alchemy

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We dunno

golden imp
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Just saw an ad for warhammer tacticus for new custodes units and one of them slammed a staff down and shot lighting from it

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Was flabbergasted fr

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Made me question

arctic talon
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Prolly just gameplay

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Tbh

queen laurel
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Putting down the banner by the bulwark

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Has this like light around it

golden imp
#

Yeah I figured there weren’t any. Woulda been a nightmare to work with the sisters

languid meadow
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The unit is just a standard bearer but yeah, one of the main reasons that the sisters exist is to help custodes against psykers.

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since it's one of their few weaknesses

arctic talon
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Custodes are prolly getting an update soonish

celest dome
#

Atm there aren't Psykers, but there might be some in a specialised unit (though I wager there more sense in them getting Psykers attached to them when needed)

arctic talon
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They kind of have infinite authority lol

golden imp
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Do you think they’d used cheap disposable ones or would the ones they bring be high level ones?

languid meadow
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for the missions custodes do high level ones

arctic talon
#

^

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Bring the best

golden imp
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That’s a pretty cool

languid meadow
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but like most psykers used in service of the imperium are higher level than the ones that get sacrificed

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since they're useful and can be controlled

celest dome
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Depend on the projected use tbh

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Having cheaper discardable Psyker might be more useful at some point

arctic talon
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This is true

queen laurel
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You can kind of just do what you want

late osprey
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since the replaceable ones just get turned into batteries for galactic radios if they don't get sacrificed

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astropathic choir, everyone

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worst job in the imperium

arctic talon
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Mfw I scream all day

languid meadow
#

yeah basic sanctioned psykers would be considered expendable but even some of the most powerful psykers are "expendable" in the eyes of the system

late osprey
#

"What is my purpose?"
'You're a battery.'
"Oh my god."

languid meadow
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except navigators but the system doesn't really see them as psykers

queen laurel
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Because we really need them for the ships

arctic talon
#

Navigators aren’t psykers

late osprey
arctic talon
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They don’t interact with the veil and warp

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The same way

queen laurel
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But yeah they are mutants

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They can just see paths through the water

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Wapr

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Whatever f*** it

late osprey
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none of cassia's powers cause veil degradation

arctic talon
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Navigators don’t fuck with reality the same way

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Psykers pretty much tear a hole open

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Navigators like

queen laurel
arctic talon
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That’s the third eye

queen laurel
#

So are they basically useless if you turn that thing off

late osprey
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Well

arctic talon
#

The third eye can see the flow of the warp

late osprey
#

Not really

late osprey
#

They can do it normally, the Astronomicon makes it safe

arctic talon
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They can still see in the war

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The astronomicon is like a lighthouse/compass

queen laurel
late osprey
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Its said that they come from their use in DAoT, which is pre-Astronomicon

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And pre-Warp Hazards

arctic talon
#

Also at the end of the day

late osprey
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It USED to be a lot safer to do warp travel

arctic talon
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Navigators can still melt your brain

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Whenever they want

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Open the funny third eye

queen laurel
late osprey
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Cassia accidentally saving my first RT playthrough will never not be funny to me

arctic talon
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Cassia is da goat

late osprey
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I thought she was essentially a useless civi character since I put no thought into building her, usually I'd bring a team of all mercenary soldiers for my guardsman LARP

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It turns out

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Cassia fucking explodes Aurora with her mind

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Where all of my soldiers get gunned down in the street like dogs

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I brought her specifically expecting NO combat

queen laurel
arctic talon
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I do think it’s funny

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That cassia looks so

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Not dangerous

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She’s probably the strongest member of the party

queen laurel
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Bringing her outside in danger

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Like

arctic talon
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Bar like Idira or Heinrix going completely wild

queen laurel
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What does that accomplish

arctic talon
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But they’d both prolly die horribly

late osprey
#

I still don't bring her because she steps on my Officer RT's toes, and also the RP of bringing her off the ship is always weird to me

arctic talon
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Yeah

late osprey
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But now I know she's bullshit OP if I ever get stuck

arctic talon
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Cassia is by far

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Having the strongest origin

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The navigator powers are fucking nutty

late osprey
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Cassia can just be a monstrosity just by turning your brain off and picking all navigator talents

arctic talon
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Lore wise rather, but yeah Heinrix can do some stupid stuff gameplay wise

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Lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Well

late osprey
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Apparently the thing you do is give Heinrix the workers' chainsaw and also the Executioner archetype

arctic talon
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Even without that she’s a navigator

late osprey
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And he just does like 2000+ damage per round by end game

arctic talon
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She can instantly kill anyone

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She wants

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Navigators can just do that lol

queen laurel
late osprey
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Her abilities are just brutally tuned up.

arctic talon
queen laurel
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Apparently being built different i can tank a full-on blast to the face

arctic talon
#

But lore wise if cassia wants to kill someone

late osprey
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I wonder if the scripts for her are still wacky

arctic talon
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She can just stare at them really hard with her third eye

late osprey
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In my first playthrough I romanced her, we parted amicably since she has to be leader of the Navigator house and the end slide was

arctic talon
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And they’ll suffer horrific brain and internal damage

queen laurel
arctic talon
late osprey
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"Holy shit she hated the Rogue Trader's guts so much she used that to turn herself into a badass."

arctic talon
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Calcazars breaks sometimes

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But that’s it

late osprey
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Im like goddamn the breakup wasn't THAT bad

queen laurel
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Uhh

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Lacking in is the ability of socialization

late osprey
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No, there's different slides depending on how you treat her, is what I mean

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But I got the one where you're a total asshole to her despite romancing her

queen laurel
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Got a good wife of that so that's good

late osprey
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Cassia is unfortunately a horrible mutant fish freak so I was totally fine when she had to break up

queen laurel
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Why the hell would you romance her if you see her as a fish freak

late osprey
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Because I thought the dialogue was cute

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I'm a sucker for courtly romance

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The only non-freakazoid option for male RTs is Jae, but she essentially revenge-p0rns you to the whole ship for the lols. NOT a very good person!

queen laurel
late osprey
queen laurel
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I love courtney romance but i will not treat my partner like i care about them

late osprey
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All I'm saying is

languid meadow
late osprey
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Female RTs are dining on fine caviar while Male RTs are stuck with McDonalds

queen laurel
#

More insane male rts

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Kibellah

late osprey
#

Also if you check on the owlcat discord like

queen laurel
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The assassin girl

late osprey
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99% of the art is female RTs getting seduced by heinrix

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He's the Imperium's Most Eligible Bachelor

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it's hilarious

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Kibellah IS at least human

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But she's also a psychotic lunatic

queen laurel
arctic talon
queen laurel
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One of the rt dialogue choices is literally hilarious

arctic talon
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It just takes a bit

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Lol

dapper gyro
#

Oh, you can fix her?

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Heinrix is the best romance in the game though

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By far

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Lol

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Nothing comes even close

queen laurel
#

By making her realize that being an assassin isn't really all that is to life

late osprey
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It's hilarious how insanely popular Heinrix is vs all the other ones for romance

arctic talon
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She’s just a lot more human

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She’s less “I’m a living weapon and tool™️”

queen laurel
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But apparently it doesn't take a lot for people to fall in love for that

arctic talon
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I mean have you done his romance

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It’s great

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Lol

late osprey
queen laurel
dapper gyro
arctic talon
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He has by far the best romance tbh

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Kibellah is like the second best

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If you want a like

late osprey
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And yeah his writing is literally some ultimate "I can fix him" fantasy

queen laurel
late osprey
#

Conventionally attractive + Fixable Broken Man is like

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the ultimate romance fantasy

arctic talon
#

Use smite in bed Heinrix NOW!

queen laurel
dapper gyro
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Too kinky, my dude...

late osprey
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His romance ending slide also has him like

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Leave everything behind and become a fugitive just out of love for the RT

arctic talon
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The creature is back

late osprey
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Which is Edward-tier

arctic talon
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He also can become master of whispers for you

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Tbf

late osprey
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I'd be surprised if it wasn't a woman who wrote Heinrix LOL

queen laurel
arctic talon
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In terms of writing quality?

dapper gyro
#

Wait, since psyker can use telekinesis, that mean one can also control the fluid and therefore no need for protection?

arctic talon
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Like 3rd or 4th place

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Tbh

queen laurel
late osprey
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Ok he's not THAT much of a pretty boy, he's still visually like

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40

arctic talon
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I think maharazi is written really well romance wise

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Even if like

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His romance is

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What’s a good word

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It’s very dark eldar

queen laurel
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Dude how did you make something just as bad as mine

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Really psychic birth control?

celest dome
late osprey
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I like how when you go Chaos with Marzahai you essentially out-Freak the Freakster

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And he gets scared off

queen laurel
#

I can't find any good romance guides bro

celest dome
arctic talon
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I wonder if votann are playable on launch

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Lol

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Actually I wonder if the game will have multiplayer

celest dome
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They aren't sadly

shadow plover
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Didn't they state they'll be a npc faction

arctic talon
arctic talon
queen laurel
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I was looking forward to that

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Wemo

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Necrons it is

celest dome
#

Hoping for dlc 🤞

spring cairn
#

dogshit game

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huge pile of garbage

late osprey
queen laurel
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I want to get the best good guy ending for romance because i'm apparently just superman

shadow plover
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I'll take Votann as an npc faction, better than nothing!!

queen laurel
late osprey
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This tells you exactly what to say at each and every moment for exactly the ending you want LOL

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It's the cheat sheet

shadow plover
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they being among the last factions to get a codex makes me hope for a few new models once it drops 🙏

celest dome
#

I will be honest I was thinking that there could be some Earth Cast Tau faction in preparation for Mech2

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Earth caste don’t fight as a militarized faction generally

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That violates the greater good/tau’va

celest dome
#

Ye, but they're the "tech" faction for the Tau

arctic talon
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Make it Bor’kan tbh

queen laurel
late osprey
#

Just normal Tau would work well enough too

celest dome
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Having Earth Cast act as the head honcho of the expedition

celest dome
#

Mech5 should have some tech focused faction of every race

queen laurel
#

Deals a lot of damage

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Just absolutely chaotic

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Or like a killkan having an overload ability where if it the rng doesn't favor you it just deals damage

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But if it does favor you congratulations you're weapons now hit harder

celest dome
#

I had hoped that each faction (so Necron and Admech) would have 2 types of character + summons

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Like Tech Priest and the Crypteck, or Skitarii Marshal and equivalent

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Deff dread would be really cool as a character instead of a summon, just taking him would take 2 slots and cost much more or something uwugryn

queen laurel
lyric grotto
#

Fair enoughhhh I guess

sour hornet
astral burrow
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I love this woman

late osprey
#

who is that?

astral burrow
#

Danica from pariah nexus

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Great show

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Well very short show

storm jungle
#

White woman...

late osprey
#

why's she called danica?

astral burrow
astral burrow
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And that red blood on the hair

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Absolute peak

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She is too pretty for an asshole

dapper gyro
#

Too crazy for her own brain. There is no fixing.

astral burrow
#

She did get fixed

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A bit too late tho

dapper gyro
#

Nah, she realized that she is broken beyond repair, that's it. No fix.

astral burrow
#

Acknowledging the problem is pretty much halfway to fixing it

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And she didnt shoot the preacher

storm jungle
#

Well she was basically gonna

astral burrow
#

That's progress

storm jungle
#

she got what was coming to her

astral burrow
#

But she didn't

storm jungle
astral burrow
#

Yeah but she is hot so it is okay

storm jungle
astral burrow
#

This is joke, she sucks

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Well, sucked up until the last 5 seconds

dapper gyro
#

Don't kid your self. All of their armour are padded. Most of them are flat.

astral burrow
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And? I don't mind that

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I don't like em big anyway

dapper gyro
#

I'm a light and tight enjoyer, but SoB? No good.

astral burrow
#

Putting boobs on armor is so stupid tho

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But I guess it looks cool?

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Well not really

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But someone must have thought so

#

The helmet is really cool tho

#

Shouldn't they be really muscular underneath the armor

dapper gyro
#

At least the SoS are more bearable even though they are blank. Because they don't talk!

astral burrow
#

I keep reading SoB as son of a bitch

astral burrow
#

Who cares if they are flat

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Aren't they like really tall too

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They are gorgeous, wish they weren't assholes

dapper gyro
#

They are fit... because they have to control the armour without the black carapace.

arctic talon
astral burrow
#

I could still tell it is women without the boobs

#

The armor is already curvy

arctic talon
late osprey
#

Boobs on armor is also not as absurd as HEMA ragers like to claim

dapper gyro
#

Which is very good athletic. Nevertheless, they are still unfixable.

arctic talon
#

Also the armor was originally

astral burrow
#

They are called sisters of battle it is very obvious

arctic talon
#

From Goge Vandires

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Funny incident

astral burrow
#

Should be easier to fix than a kriegswoman

arctic talon
#

And they were called “brides of the emperor” back then

late osprey
arctic talon
#

And goge was kinda weird

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Well

dapper gyro
#

Too hard to look for the 1% of the good SoB.

arctic talon
#

Really weird

astral burrow
#

Aren't they more like daughters of the emperor

arctic talon
#

Yes that’s the point

late osprey
#

They were originally a cult called Daughters, Goge basically sponsored them and renamed them to Brides, then when they turned on Goge they renamed themselves back to Daughters

arctic talon
#

Anyways goge got his head sawn off by the leader of the brides of the emperor after she talked to the emperor

#

Yeah

dapper gyro
#

Daughter of the big E was given to SoS.

lofty mason
#

What is the most underrated technological aspect of the Imperium? Mine is genetic engineering. IoM has some pretty advanced genetic engineering tech compared to some / most sci-fi settings.

arctic talon
#

It’s def genetic engineering stuff

#

The imperium are the best at it in setting aside from the drukhari

late osprey
#

underrated?

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data science

arctic talon
#

Oh

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That’s a good one

#

Lol

late osprey
#

writers tend to flipflop but by and large the Imperium's ability to use data to its advantage is absurd for its scale

dapper gyro
#

The issue is that it went backward from the better times...

late osprey
#

IRL its cohesion probably isnt possible at all

astral burrow
late osprey
#

sisters of silence, the most talkative of the imperial subfactions

astral burrow
#

The whole servitorization thing is fucked up but impressive

late osprey
arctic talon
#

That’s the mechanicus

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And the answer is the mechanicus is very good

astral burrow
#

That's still part of the imperium

late osprey
#

oh you're responding to the other thingy

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about their most impressive tech

dapper gyro
late osprey
#

please dont say it like that LOL

dapper gyro
#

😶

languid meadow
#

Hype moments and aura

late osprey
#

I love that warhammer character!

languid meadow
#

you should

astral burrow
#

That sounds crazy tho

languid meadow
#

even if you don't play HH their trailers are great

astral burrow
#

But doesn't answer what SoS stands for

late osprey
#

Save our Souls

languid meadow
#

Sisters of Silence

astral burrow
astral burrow
languid meadow
#

no they're a part of the Talons of the Emperor which the Custodes are the main part of

#

They're blanks and the reason they have silence in their name is two meanings, they silence psychic powers and they don't talk

storm jungle
languid meadow
languid meadow
#

it's my favourite one for him

storm jungle
#

I found this one fanart

astral burrow
#

Wow sign language

storm jungle
#

I love the ultronbots craddling his body

astral burrow
#

That's

storm jungle
#

lmao

astral burrow
#

Pretty nice

dapper gyro
astral burrow
#

Is that actual British sign language?

#

Or American

storm jungle
#

it is

#

it sbritish

astral burrow
#

Or did they make imperium's own?

languid meadow
#

yeah SoS sign language is based off of BSL with some new words added in iirc

astral burrow
#

I have a friend who knows ASL was gonna show her

storm jungle
#

they advertised it on warhammer community beforehand

languid meadow
#

the motion capture is done by people who speak BSL which is cool

storm jungle
#

yeee

#

its a nice bit of needless but nice extra effort

astral burrow
#

Or can't talk?

storm jungle
#

Dont talk.

#

Its an oath thing.

spare osprey
#

creep

storm jungle
#

because hes Sinister

astral burrow
storm jungle
#

duh

astral burrow
#

What is a "blank" btw

#

Heard it like twice by now

storm jungle
# astral burrow What is a "blank" btw

Blanks,[1a] also known as Untouchables,[2] Pariahs[1a], Psychic Nulls[3b] and Blacksouls[4a] are an exceedingly rare strain of Human mutant,[5] whose mutation tied to a so-called pariah gene allows their minds to exude a negative psionic field,[3b] that both disrupts psychic phenomena in a radius and ultimately makes them immune to all tangible ...

spare osprey
#

not as bad as the facehugger gun

languid meadow
#

I think there was one instance of a sister breaking her oath but uh I forgor

astral burrow
#

Oh

#

Blank like in

#

In enter the gungeon

dapper gyro
#

Reverse psyker

storm jungle
#

enter the gungangs

astral burrow
astral burrow
#

Hi larmoth

#

Everything looks dumb when sped up

dapper gyro
#

Not just jammer, it is way more than that.

spare osprey
#

for a single panel

astral burrow
dapper gyro
#

SoS level can be walking and warp entities around them die.

languid meadow
#

I lost my clip of the SoS walking up to the psyker in the tithes episode

#

fuck

#

it's like the perfect video of them

astral burrow
#

Why don't they just throw them into the warp

#

A lot of SoS

lofty mason
#

Considering that the Imperium has like a million worlds and most of them are not featured in any media (I think since 1987 only around 200 worlds are mentioned but probably less than that), is it possible that a world where it is basically a utopia similar to Star Trek's Earth exists somewhere in the Imperium?

dapper gyro
#

That SoS didn't even active her full power, she wants to keep the snack for the throne.

spare osprey
astral burrow
spare osprey
#

blanks work because they disconnect daemons to the warp

#

same with psykers

languid meadow
#

Krieg was a pleasure world iirc which is not really a Utopia

#

think of vegas 24/7 across an entire planet

arctic talon
#

Slight difference

#

Krieg still had economic output and such

languid meadow
#

right oopsie