40k-lore-chat

[hallow saddle]

Idk why

[arctic talon]

d is damage

as usual

[languid meadow]

IM=Initiative modifier
AM=Attack mod
SM=strength mod
AP=Armour pen
D=Damage

[shadow plover]

it has been pretty standard with new edition box sets for a few years now

[hallow saddle]

Insane amount of padding, where they showed the actual models was sick tho and they should do that more

Like more models on screen please

[shadow plover]

I want more rules please

[rocky gale]

First chat was complaining because they thought GW was making HH rules simpler and saying GW ruined everything, then GW revealed they were actually expanding on the rules and adding to them so now the chat is complaining that GW is making it more complicated and ruining everything.

[shadow plover]

kill the chat

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/its-bleak-bleak-its-peak-peak-homelander-gif-466413946589568151

[hallow saddle]

I just need more models on the screen at all times

[rocky gale]

Classic GW fan moment

[late osprey]

complaining is a cherished 40k fan tradition

[late osprey]

don't take that away from them

[late osprey]

SATURNINE HERESY LET'S GOOO

[hallow saddle]

They're actually taking about the instruction book 💀

[arctic talon]

I do want more rules

but

[languid meadow]

Shout out to my lovely ogyrn

[arctic talon]

holy shit

Mechanicum and questoris split up

????????

wtf

[languid meadow]

Talons don't get a book yet lmao

[plush mason]

so hobby gamers and video gamers are just alike in this respect

[arctic talon]

I'm ngl

those covers look bad lol

Something about the lighting

[shadow plover]

yeah they're not the greatest, last edition had very cool logos

[queen laurel]

Yeah even old world had the flare to show more

[arctic talon]

I'd rather the logos

lol

or actual art

[queen laurel]

Yeah

Actual art

These are just single characters

[shadow plover]

to get started with the Horus Heresy, read these books

[queen laurel]

I wish i had a match and i was there

[plush mason]

the stances make the proportions look off

[shadow plover]

[queen laurel]

Seriously who would say those books are like a good start to 40k

[arctic talon]

not recomending the blackbooks or Libers

[languid meadow]

GW glazing HH books so real of them

[shadow plover]

well you can't just recommend the old edition 'rulebooks'

[storm jungle]

actual fucking pile id burn

jesus christ

[hallow saddle]

That's cool that it looks like Malcador will get a model and he in the Talons book

[shadow plover]

not if I burn you first

[storm jungle]

AAA-

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-meme-skeleton-fire-zz-gif-2672574253704646677

[rocky gale]

Now people are malding that they have to buy new rulebooks

I guess they thought that HH would just never get an update or go to a new edition

[languid meadow]

big ol map

[queen laurel]

Clown to clown communication you and i

I just said the exact same thing

[rocky gale]

Sure every other GW system gets a new edition every 3 years, but I can't believe that HH would also do the same, who could have predicted this.

[storm jungle]

The Slopsite Massacre....

[arctic talon]

new map

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/713403094708387841/1375545517442072778/image.png?ex=68321417&is=6830c297&hm=d2613ef91ff778ce3b57b7b99ac392f777f7eaf682bb799280f58efcb9bb2a0f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[queen laurel]

Finally i can understand what it's truly to commit to Isvaanism philosophy

[arctic talon]

The slopsite massacare

again

AGAIN

[queen laurel]

War war is good

[arctic talon]

AGAIN

[plush mason]

oh btw, have an arbities officers ever fallen to chaos?

[queen laurel]

God i love war

[shadow plover]

AAAA

Plastic BIG FUCKS

Give it to me

[queen laurel]

WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR WAR

Anyway that should be enough

[languid meadow]

New tank

[rocky gale]

What was that?

[languid meadow]

I missed the screenshot

[arctic talon]

Yes

[queen laurel]

My bumbling violent chimpanzee break

[shadow plover]

Fuick yeah

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713403094708387841/1375546086583832647/image.png?ex=6832149f&is=6830c31f&hm=fb1301df74513a30f67c16028596c3d63a20bd8ddab853fab3d2b312d26176c7&

[rocky gale]

Why did the stream start showing me something and then end?

[languid meadow]

Fellblade

[rocky gale]

Oh we're back

[storm jungle]

Why did it fall

is it stupid

[queen laurel]

What does that do again

[storm jungle]

its on tracks

[shadow plover]

no it fells

[arctic talon]

Marine baneblade

[plush mason]

is it a similar situation to the commissars? like they are stupidly hard to corrupt and very few ever are?

[arctic talon]

It’s kind of shitty

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

That it?

Just a big tank for the marines

[arctic talon]

It’s got dif guns

[shadow plover]

but so fucking great looking

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[hallow saddle]

Ok based as fuck new fellblade

[arctic talon]

It looks good

But it also sucks

On the table

Mostly

[shadow plover]

literally the greatest warhammer tank

[queen laurel]

Okay then that's good enough

[arctic talon]

Wrong

[hallow saddle]

If they do the Glaive I'm getting it

[shadow plover]

They will

[rocky gale]

You're not going to believe this but the Chat is complaining

[languid meadow]

lmao

[storm jungle]

Are they gonna have-

you know

[arctic talon]

Why are they complaining about a plastic fellblade

[shadow plover]

1000+ transfers in the box set

amazing

[storm jungle]

"HE ASKED FOR NO PICKLES."

[arctic talon]

Lol

[queen laurel]

That can kill someone

You tied that on a rope and swing it on their head

[humble shoal]

Never talk to me or my son again

[shadow plover]

oh it's just the two poster boys again 😔

[arctic talon]

No it can’t it’s plastic

It’s not resin

[rocky gale]

They're complaining about getting more tanks and how they want Breachers/more legion units

[storm jungle]

Salamanders
Auto-trash

at least IW is there

[queen laurel]

Then just put cement inside of it

[arctic talon]

Bruh, GW literally said we aren’t getting legion units in plastic

Are they stupid

[languid meadow]

SHUT UP NNAOOOWO

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-squarepants-angry-ripping-gif-25651719

[arctic talon]

Actually

It’s twitch chat

Of course they’re stupid

[shadow plover]

stop reading the chat you BUFFOONS

[rocky gale]

and they're also still complaining about it being a new edition

[queen laurel]

The ork catching a guardsman

[rocky gale]

"We want to buy models, not books"

[arctic talon]

Me when I can’t play the old edition I have books for

[languid meadow]

psychic willy

[arctic talon]

[arctic talon]

Willpower

[storm jungle]

aaaaaaaaaAAAAA-

[arctic talon]

Like munda

[humble shoal]

Alpha majoris psychic willy

[arctic talon]

They’ve stolen a lot of munda systems

For the stat line

[humble shoal]

Gamma class psychic willy

[arctic talon]

So I think it’s just gona be munda

[raven stone]

But epic and BEEG

Just because.

[languid meadow]

fellblade not at launch

[shadow plover]

more new stuff

[arctic talon]

HES PULLING HIS 🐔 OUT

[humble shoal]

Its gonna be munda but with saturnines and hookers

[grim hound]

Anyone seen the new horus heresy trailer?

[shadow plover]

we're doing live commentary on the stream

[rocky gale]

I hope they don't spoil whether or not they kill Horus in this trailer

[dapper gyro]

You mean everyone?

[languid meadow]

Princep swag is insane

[dapper gyro]

Was Horsus even there?

[arctic talon]

Ngl the new like salamander/IW transfer sheet

Fucking sucks

[rose thorn]

Oh hey questor divorce

[arctic talon]

I know it’s meant to be generic

[humble shoal]

What, horus dies

Spoilers

[arctic talon]

Maybe they’ll be playable now

[winter vessel]

le gasp

[arctic talon]

GW please rework the high court system

[grim hound]

The bolt weapons in the trailer function different than the ones we are used to. They turned their targets to ash. Is that normal?

[arctic talon]

In heresy

[arctic talon]

That’s a disintegrator

Not a bolter

[grim hound]

My bad, the plasma weapons

[arctic talon]

The plasma is just artistic license

Imo

Also reuse the effect

It’s expensive

Lol

[languid meadow]

bug

[grim hound]

Was nice to see a sister of silence in the trailer, atleast

[storm jungle]

Krole too

[shadow plover]

YOO

[rose thorn]

If they reveal a new knight tell me

[languid meadow]

I love you little rapiers

https://tenor.com/view/goliath-leichter-ladungsträger-goliath-demolition-tank-gif-16372966

[shadow plover]

we got MENIALS

[storm jungle]

no way

TF2 Engineers

also the hip-laptop is peak

[sacred ginkgo]

They’re so cute

[shadow plover]

pogging so hard right now

[winter vessel]

massive

[languid meadow]

mk2 assault, he looks so sad

[shadow plover]

Charcaradon bros in ecstasy

[queen laurel]

Okay you know what i admit this one looks cool

My guy looks like he squares up to the airplanes

[shadow plover]

we breaching

[queen laurel]

Is that mk3

[arctic talon]

Well that’s all the troops in plastic done

[shadow plover]

2

[arctic talon]

Yep

[winter vessel]

ooo i like that one

[rocky gale]

Breachers

[shadow plover]

no wiat

3

[dapper gyro]

Mk4 armour when?

[arctic talon]

Later

[queen laurel]

Yeah the armor that's extra durable but makes the marines lower

[dapper gyro]

To give the Mk10 enjoyer some excuse

[queen laurel]

They usually pair it with breach shields like that

[winter vessel]

i like mk4

[arctic talon]

Oh hey combi volkite

[shadow plover]

we got some weird shit coming

[rose thorn]

Damn they a stole from the ashen circle

[dapper gyro]

Man, this is really a hive mind...

[rose thorn]

Oh hi admech

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-20534148

[dapper gyro]

3-4 people post the same shit back to back

[rose thorn]

pls just combine admech and custodies from both games at this point

[winter vessel]

also this trailer...is this the first we've seen Malcador in a cinematic?

[rocky gale]

Plastic Breachers

[shadow plover]

it is yeah

[winter vessel]

he somehow sounds as how i expected him to be

[astral burrow]

Holy shit what is this even

Like a gunblade?

[languid meadow]

Guardian spear for custodes

[winter vessel]

Guardian Spear. The RWBY weapon before RWBY became a thing

[dapper gyro]

halberd bolter

[astral burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/outis-ego-limbus-limbus-ego-limbus-company-gif-1579467942068117716

Where even is the trigger

[sacred bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZW7ANLaA0

Okay

Is the custodian in this Valdor

[astral burrow]

What even is this meant to be? New tabletop edition?

New game? New show?

[outer wave]

Outis be like

[rocky gale]

New edition of Horus Heresy

[astral burrow]

There are multiple edition of just Horus heresy?

Bruh

[astral burrow]

Yeah couldn't find the actual attack

[rocky gale]

There's multiple editions for everything

[astral burrow]

How many tabletop games even are these

There*

[winter vessel]

As cool as this one was visually, the one with Horus narrating still goes hard.

[arctic talon]

It’s Solar auxilia I think, look at the chest plate. It looks like void armor

[sacred bluff]

also do these trailers mean a new show or something or are they only for showing off a new edition

[astral burrow]

Rogue trader necromunda Horus heresy normal 40k

[arctic talon]

New edition

[arctic talon]

Wargames?

[sacred bluff]

BUT I NEED A SHOW LIKE THIS

[rocky gale]

GW makes like 4 main ones

[astral burrow]

Why isnt there just 1 game with multiple stories and editions like DND

Odd

[rocky gale]

I guess 5 now

[winter vessel]

think of like overwatch. Good cinematic shorts but an animated show will never be realized

[arctic talon]

Because GW does not make ttrpgs

[astral burrow]

The ones I said?

[arctic talon]

They make war games

[rocky gale]

No

[astral burrow]

Isn't this what rogue trader is

[arctic talon]

For 40K: warhammer 40K, Horus heresy, necromunda, killteam

[arctic talon]

That isn’t made by GW

It’s licensed

[sacred bluff]

it's nice finally seeing Iron Warriors get some love

[astral burrow]

That is so silly

[rocky gale]

It's not

[humble shoal]

Yes

[plush mason]

rogue trader is a TTRPG

[rose thorn]

And legions and titanicus

[astral burrow]

How many are there including the just licensed ones?

[arctic talon]

For AOS: age of sigmar, warcry, underworlds

[humble shoal]

Gw is a plastic toy company

[plush mason]

that isnt even in production anymore afaik

[arctic talon]

Ttrpgs? Like 6 or 7

For 40K

[sacred bluff]

is dark heresy gonna be like that

[astral burrow]

No table top games in general

6-7 ttrpgs?!?!?

[arctic talon]

Dark heresy is a ttrpg yeah

[astral burrow]

[rocky gale]

Yea, each setting needs different rules

[sacred bluff]

[humble shoal]

Space hulk, rt, dh, onlywar, necromunda, blood bowl

[arctic talon]

Like 20 something?

[astral burrow]

World so big just one ruleset isn't enough?

[arctic talon]

Prolly more

[astral burrow]

Holy shit how do people keep track of these

[arctic talon]

Just different things

[rocky gale]

You can't exactly make a TTRPG rule system that applies to both 40k and Age of Sigmar

[arctic talon]

No one plays them all

At once

Lol

Also lots of discontinued ones

[sacred ginkgo]

Dark heresy
Only war
Deathwatch
Rogue trader
Wrath and glory
There’s more I can’t name

[humble shoal]

Bloodbowl

[astral burrow]

There is a deathwatch game?

[arctic talon]

That’s not a ttrpg

[humble shoal]

Diggas

[astral burrow]

Bruh

[arctic talon]

Yes

[sacred ginkgo]

40k TTRPG’s

[rocky gale]

Black Crusade

[astral burrow]

Which ones are NOT discounted rn? Or how many at least?

Is it like 10?

[humble shoal]

Ngl forgot it was a board game

[arctic talon]

More then 10 if you count licensed games

Lol

For all of GW

[humble shoal]

Chapter master?

[arctic talon]

Chapter master isn’t a board game

[humble shoal]

No blood bowl is

[arctic talon]

It’s a fan game

Yes

[astral burrow]

And here I just wanna be able to buy and paint minis and make silly displays

[rocky gale]

You can do that

[astral burrow]

I can't they don't sell Warhammer stuff here

[humble shoal]

Those plastic minis are worth too much

[astral burrow]

At least I can't find any online

[humble shoal]

3d printer go brrrr

[rocky gale]

Check Ebay

[astral burrow]

If they sell any in person in bigger cities god it must cost a lot

[dapper gyro]

Don't even name Kill Team...

[arctic talon]

They’re with the price compared to other companies products imo

[astral burrow]

We have no ebay here

[arctic talon]

Not a ttrpg

[astral burrow]

I am not buying from overseas lol

[rocky gale]

RIP

[sacred ginkgo]

Not a TTRPG

[astral burrow]

We have our own second hand stores but that's just

People selling 3d printed slop

And I imagine those don't feel as nice to paint, and have obvious layers

[dapper gyro]

Nah, 3D printed are good.

[shadow plover]

this do be going hard

[humble shoal]

Osha certified reactor core specialist

[dapper gyro]

Not that much lagged behind injection molding plastic.

[plush mason]

IW are my fav chaos legion

[astral burrow]

It is just action figures or 3d painted stuff

Or really old minis of factions I don't care about

Sad

[humble shoal]

Facts

Though alpha legion is comedic

[dapper gyro]

Old mini were cast

[astral burrow]

If I can get into a uni in a big city might be able to find some in person

[arctic talon]

For a list of all 40K games currently in production for rulebooks:

ttrpgs:dark heresy, rogue trader, black crusade, deathwatch, only war, wrath and glory, imperium maledictum

Wargames: warhammer 30k, warhammer 40K, killteam, necromunda, legionies imperialis, titanicus.

[dapper gyro]

Die cast models.

[astral burrow]

And get killed by my mom

[humble shoal]

I mean they are mondo expensive

[astral burrow]

Warhammer 30k?

[arctic talon]

They’re def a disposable income thing

Lol

[humble shoal]

The paint is 10 bucks

[arctic talon]

Warhammer 30k is marines

The game

[astral burrow]

Why is that still a thing

[arctic talon]

Don’t buy citadel paint

Lol

[astral burrow]

That too

[arctic talon]

There’s only a few that are worth it

[astral burrow]

So it is just 40k

[plush mason]

i thought rogue trader was discontinued?

[arctic talon]

Don’t buy fucking citadel paint

[humble shoal]

Just giving a hilarious ripoff price

[arctic talon]

No it’s not

[dapper gyro]

Every paint brand are expensive nowadays.

[humble shoal]

80 bucks for a kill team box

[arctic talon]

The ttrpg is still made rulebook wise

[astral burrow]

I wish I could just use acrylic paint

[dapper gyro]

But GW paint is always the worst for the price.

[arctic talon]

You can

[humble shoal]

With 6 minis

[astral burrow]

They hold?

I have a shit ton of acrylic paint

[arctic talon]

I’d say scale 75 is kind of fucked for the Metalics

[shadow plover]

Citadel paints are acrylic paints

[arctic talon]

You might want to prime them

But yeah

[astral burrow]

Prime with what?

[arctic talon]

Wargame paints are acrylic

Idk primer

It’s not needed

But I recommend it if you plan to handle them regularly

[astral burrow]

You know those big

[dapper gyro]

Acrylic or Enamel are pigment type, not really a big deal.

[astral burrow]

Tube ones

That come in packs of 6 or 8 or smth

[arctic talon]

Those ones suck for coverage but yes you can use them

Well

[dapper gyro]

Water base or solvant base are more important to know about.

[astral burrow]

Scuff marks are fun lol

[arctic talon]

Assuming you’re talking about the super cheap stuff

[astral burrow]

Well the affordable ones yeah

You know things you buy to paint on paper

Or a canvas

Pretty sure mine are water base

[arctic talon]

For a list of all the dead 40K games with no more rules production: Aeronautica imperialis, battlefleet gothic, gorka morkka, EPIC, Space Hulk

[dapper gyro]

Vallejo used to be the cheap option for water based paint.

[arctic talon]

Vallejo is expensive now!!!!

Quality is still nice

[astral burrow]

Water based holds too?

[arctic talon]

But fuck me

Price has gone up

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[shadow plover]

Acrylics are water soluble

[arctic talon]

GW paint is water based

There is like one paint that GW makes

[dapper gyro]

Btw, all paint on the market are acrylic, so calling them Acrylic is really meaningless.

[arctic talon]

That imo is really good

[astral burrow]

I will buy so many kriegs when I have disposable income and don't disappoint my parents for paying insane amounts of money for plastic men

[arctic talon]

Aside from contrast paints

Which imo are still best in industry for like

That style

[astral burrow]

That's what we call the paints we get really

Idk anything else

[arctic talon]

Mephiston red is the one paint imo GW does better

Then other companies

[shadow plover]

GW paints are generally very good for hobby paints but their pots tend to leak and thus dry the paint in them

[arctic talon]

For similar reds

[arctic talon]

Gotta clean them which is a pita

[dapper gyro]

Enemel solvant base used to be more popular.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[shadow plover]

Yeah

Kimera does the BEST reds though

[arctic talon]

Do they?

[shadow plover]

but it's a premium hobby paint brand

[dapper gyro]

They are extremely durable, but hard to work with.

[arctic talon]

I can’t get my hands on it

Easily

[shadow plover]

These reds are mostly Kimera's The Red

[arctic talon]

God

That is a good red

[humble shoal]

Just remember to never thin your paints

[arctic talon]

How much is it for a bottle

[arctic talon]

Stub your toe

[shadow plover]

it's glazed with some carmine ink so it's a bit darker than just the Kimera red

[humble shoal]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m3p_VuPIS2c

[shadow plover]

one pot is around 6-7€ iirc

[humble shoal]

I used to stub my toe until I learned the weakness of my flesh

[arctic talon]

More expensive then citadel lul, but it’s worth it prolly

I’ll get a pot and mess with it

I need to paint the new admech killteam when it comes out

[sacred bluff]

one more question, was that the Istvaan 5 dropsite massacre in the trailer?

[shadow plover]

the pots are a bit larger too, they're sinlge pigment so they mix very well with other paints in the range

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Oooh

[sacred bluff]

[shadow plover]

they also sell a very good starter kit

[arctic talon]

Vallejo, AK and citadel

Are my workhorse paints rn tbh

I really like AK’s whites

[shadow plover]

all of these are excellent paints, I've then expanded on it with most of their range but these will get you far

[dapper gyro]

Humbrol used to be the common paint, now their old stuff are premium stuff.

[arctic talon]

People stopped using enamel because it’s harder to work with tbh

But enamels are nice

[shadow plover]

it also stinks up the place

[dapper gyro]

Enemel pigment like to get stuck in airbrush.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[shadow plover]

but it's pretty easy to clean with white spirit

[dapper gyro]

But the quality is way better, they hold colour against UV, too.

[arctic talon]

Tbh I keep my minis out of the sun(mostly) so UV isn’t a big issue

[shadow plover]

also this might be a Catapharctii redo

[arctic talon]

Oh good eye

Anyways I want my drukhari update and I want it now GW

[dapper gyro]

I also have alcohol base paint, they are in between water and solvant.

[arctic talon]

I have oils

[dapper gyro]

Oil paint are solvant

[plush mason]

pinky toe specifically

[queen laurel]

Thought you drank them

[dapper gyro]

I miss humbrol metallic paint, they were so good.

[sacred ginkgo]

Store I work at makes our own paint, people say it’s pretty good

[queen laurel]

Bro ship me some i'm thirsty

[dapper gyro]

What's it? Im curious.

[sacred ginkgo]

I’m pretty uninvolved with making it

[nocturne crest]

So here's an odd question, but could Ork spores affect a human?

[arctic talon]

There is an answer for this in dominion genesis

The answer is ork spores can grow in humans

[queen laurel]

Yeah that

[arctic talon]

And consumption of Ork spores and orkoid flesh long term

[queen laurel]

ork sports basically can grow everywhere

[arctic talon]

Causes mutation

[humble shoal]

Like the flesh eaters

[arctic talon]

And eventually a weird symbiosis

Between the mutant and spores

[dapper gyro]

I only want to know about the store, not what you know about the recipe.

[arctic talon]

Now granted the horrific radiation also doesn’t help

Lol

[humble shoal]

Maybe if you eat enough orcs, you become a krork

[arctic talon]

But the mutants in dominion genesis are def fucked up

From eating ork stuff

And then the mechanicus kill them all

[queen laurel]

Wait ork constantly shed their spores right

So i guess the winners just clean thoroughly?

[arctic talon]

[queen laurel]

Can't risk infection

[arctic talon]

The mutants have also been there for hundreds of years and have like, really weak immune systems

It’s likely the ork spores growing in them is only possible due to all those factors

[queen laurel]

I see so it's not really that infectious it's just that constant exposure

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[dapper gyro]

So they didn't cook the meat well enough.

[arctic talon]

Constant exposure, mutations, consumption

Yeah

They were also eating the ork mushrooms

Tldr of it was that it was a really unique biosphere

Until you know

The mechanicus killed them all

Now granted originally they were going to let them live

[dapper gyro]

I told people to not cook rare. Well done cook is so much better.

[late osprey]

do orks crawl out of the ground fully grown or something?

[queen laurel]

No ork yoofs are a thing

But they are basically just orks that are relatively small and don't know better

[arctic talon]

They crawl out of the ground mostly grown

[queen laurel]

What elite wolf said

They basically come out small orks that don't know any better

But as they spend their lives they keep growing and growing

Either they die early or they somehow become a powerful leader

[late osprey]

and it says its out in the wilderness

so sounds like yoofs just wander into the nearest camp like they just spawned in a Rust server

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Or they spawn in the camp sometimes

[queen laurel]

Exactly

[arctic talon]

Usually not enough nutrients

[queen laurel]

Sometimes they can
Emerge with a broken arm or broken leg because they came out the wrong way

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Yoof

Damn it hold on

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Yoof

Welp fuck it

[late osprey]

do you think if yoofs spawn too close to one another they'll immediately try to kill each other?

[dapper gyro]

Such an ork behavior

[queen laurel]

Yes

[arctic talon]

Probably

[queen laurel]

That happens

They fight each other

Because at that point there basically just green hairless gorillas

[late osprey]

oh yeah

come to mention it i remember that runtherdz story time episode from warhammer tv

where the runtherd is telling the yoofs about yarrick

[queen laurel]

That yeah

[late osprey]

and iirc orks instinctively follow bigger orks right

[queen laurel]

Yes

A yoof also has genetic knowledge of which clan he belongs to

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

There have been cases of yoofz finding other orcs through their instincts and their connection to the WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHH

[late osprey]

i just like the idea that ork worlds are basically just rust servers in the rural parts

naked yoofs just running around bashing each other in the head with rocks

[queen laurel]

I mean

[late osprey]

or one lucky one that found a shoota

[queen laurel]

It weeds out the week

[hallow saddle]

good shout that would be sick

I need tartaros rescale

Very much

[late osprey]

new open world survival PVP game idea

[rocky gale]

From the way they talked they implied it was a character though

[late osprey]

Orktarius

[arctic talon]

It’s prolly a character as a preview tbh

[arctic talon]

lol

[tough haven]

Actually would be so peak

Give me rust but orks PLEASE

I never knew I wanted it until now

Cause rust really is Orky

[nocturne crest]

I'm just wondering with Ork Spores growing inside a human would cause them to become an ork or something similar. Imagine last of us zombies, but ork.

[raven stone]

Back to the event grind!

[tough haven]

I don’t think so

[late osprey]

yeah id play the fuck out of it

get my dakka on

[queen laurel]

That's not going to happen

Like wolf said the once that mutated was in a very special circumstance

[nocturne crest]

I see.

[rose thorn]

So any new knights or anything revealed?

[plush mason]

the saturine dreadnaught /jk

[rose thorn]

😭 this looks like someone’s 3d print

[plush mason]

its fucking ridicules

[rose thorn]

What’s the point

[plush mason]

to canonize a meme

thats it

i refuse to accept any other reason

[rose thorn]

It looks like all those warhammer rip off games that die every 3 months

[paper haven]

I'm still stuck on the idea that primarchs can just be made now

[green loom]

I mean the design has been canon for years

[plush mason]

yeah but the name wasnt

[arctic talon]

I am praying the praetors are not actually that strong and they were exaggerating heavily

[rocky gale]

I like them

[paper haven]

Power creep is insane

[arctic talon]

Mfw glorp my OC 2nd legion saturnine praetor fucking murderizes Horus

[paper haven]

Canon event

[arctic talon]

Mfw glorp solo kills 1000 points worth of imperial knights

Balance

[paper haven]

Do you want Krorks? Because this is how you get them.

[plush mason]

so he kills 2 of them?

[arctic talon]

No that’s like 3 or 4

Which is lowballing it for some of the primarchs

Lol

Ferrus can kill like 5 questoris on average in 1 turn

[plush mason]

ok i figured the meme was a lot more extreme

[arctic talon]

I’ve watched curze kill over 2k points of marines

Lol

“Primarch” tier in heresy just means comically strong bullshit

[sacred ginkgo]

“Behold my win con, a single model”

[astral burrow]

https://youtu.be/OAUIIRqivzk

I am going to commit horrendous crimes.

[arctic talon]

Tbh if you bring a primarch tier mini your opponent is also bringing one

That’s those sorts of games lol

But primarchs are fucking stupid on table in heresy

[plush mason]

ngl that does sound lore accurate in a way

he is a demigod

[arctic talon]

Weakest is prolly Lorgar or Vulkan

By far

Vulkan is a big blob of I don’t die

[sacred ginkgo]

Objective babysitting

[arctic talon]

And Lorgar is an excellent supporter, good Psyker and good damage

He just does like

Everything decently

Lorgar is the most well rounded primarch but as a result doesn’t get to do anything absurdly bullshit

Like he’s still bullshit but he’s not Ferrus “I eat titans for breakfast” Manus or Magnus “I can literally delete a unit of my choice a turn” the Red

[sacred ginkgo]

Does he just drop like 35 mortal wounds or actually delete them (magnus)

[arctic talon]

Curze is kind of shit but he’s extremely funny since he’s a giant fucking morale nuke

[arctic talon]

He kills them, no save

Lol

Entire squad

Dead

You successfully past the Psyker test they all drop dead

This works on vehicles as well and they instantly explode

Now granted you need magnus + a few other tsons psykers

But still

And this wasn’t kept in 2e

But magnus just does one morbillion fucking mortals and dumps out spells like someone breathes air

Also he’s good in melee because he can make himself into a titanic unit and fucking step on you

Anyways for the most “fair” primarch tier minis on the table

[paper haven]

Lemon russ can beat him

[arctic talon]

Angron, because world eaters are so bad angron is necessary for them to be playable.

Anarchis Scoria, dark mechanicum melee focused, pretty squishy by “primarch” standards.

Valdor: he’s just a juiced up custodes, he’s also cheap

[arctic talon]

On the tabletop no, in lore sure I guess

Russ kind of gets mogged on the tabletop lol

[paper haven]

Then the tabletop is wrong

[arctic talon]

Tabletop heresy has a lot of goofy things

If you give perturabo Ferris’s hammer it magically becomes worse

[paper haven]

How are the world Eaters doing?

[arctic talon]

In 40K? Good

In 30k they’re shit as usual

[paper haven]

As it should be

[arctic talon]

Worst melee marines in the game

By far lol

[paper haven]

Wat?

[arctic talon]

In 30k

[paper haven]

But they- that's their thing

[arctic talon]

World eaters are the worst melee specific melee faction

[arctic talon]

Yeah and they suck at it

[paper haven]

No guns only round 1 charges

[arctic talon]

[arctic talon]

Lol

World eaters in heresy are like

Genuine self flagellation

Their rules are depressingly bad

[paper haven]

Rip

[arctic talon]

Mfw they have worse melee power then Imperial fists

[paper haven]

Welp, time to run an Alpha legion Berzerker only army

[arctic talon]

Lol

Alpha legion have better melee actually

[paper haven]

Perfection

[arctic talon]

Due to the fact they get power knives and shit in heresy

[astral burrow]

Cute

[arctic talon]

AL also have like

Really good terminator spam

They get line terminators

By default

[paper haven]

Can they just drop terminator squads anywhere on the map?

[arctic talon]

And one of their rites of war doubled down on the termie spam

[arctic talon]

No but you can run 60+ terminators

And they’re good terminators lol

[paper haven]

Alpha legion saturnine terminator spam

Yessss

[arctic talon]

They prolly will not

Get saturnine spam lol

They just get line for their legion specific termies

And the rite of war gives it to cayaphracti and tartatos

[paper haven]

It's kind of insane that you can get away with building an army of terminators

[arctic talon]

Tbf you can do that in 40K as well lol

It’s just funny in heresy because people go into AL expecting stealth

[paper haven]

They're supposed to be super rare

[arctic talon]

And they come out surrounded by a bunch of buff muscular men

[paper haven]

That's the joke

[arctic talon]

Tbh it was more common in the heresy

But yeah for 40K it’s funny whenever you see termies spammed

[paper haven]

That refrigerator over there? Alpha legion dreadnaught.

[arctic talon]

I do wonder why Bligh wrote that part for AL lore

The whole

[paper haven]

Might even be Alpharius

[arctic talon]

They love armored spearheads and terminators thing

Lol

[paper haven]

Since, you know, he was killed by Dorn.

[arctic talon]

Alpharius might have been stupid

[paper haven]

Pretty sure a primarch terminator would be possible

I still don't know what the plan was with Dorn.

[arctic talon]

Perturabo is in terminator plate thingy

So is Horus

[paper haven]

Wait not terminator

Dreadnaught

[arctic talon]

Genuinely I’m of the opinion they were sick of writing for Alpharius lol

Oh

[paper haven]

Alpharius is alive in a dreadnaught somewhere

Waiting

[opaque coyote]

I mean probably possible

But it might as well be a regular one

[paper haven]

Plotting

[opaque coyote]

They got none of their powers

[paper haven]

Getting stronger, getting more confusing.

[opaque coyote]

Tbf there's only so much "Everything said here is false" you can take

[arctic talon]

He is not smh

Omegon is alive

Omegon my GOAT

[paper haven]

He's currently serving as an Imperial Fist dreadnaught

[arctic talon]

The one who wasn’t stupid

[paper haven]

That's why he lured Dorn to Pluto.

[opaque coyote]

I do actually like the detail that the Alpha Legion uses human operatives more often.

Actually one of the things I unironically like about them

[paper haven]

Honestly that alone is what drew me to them.
I love the imperial guard but I tend to favor chaos, so traitor guard, right? Except no they're usually pathetically weak.
Alpha legion operatives though? Pretty cool.

[arctic talon]

Maybe someday

Chaos mortals will get their time in the sun

The cultist detach is pretty good though

Lol

Anyways I hope there’s something of this level oh shit in dark heresy

[paper haven]

Looking forward to Dark heresy

[astral burrow]

Oh big E came to help

How nice

[paper haven]

I don't think he's here to help

[arctic talon]

Help cave my skull in yes

[astral burrow]

If he thinks you deserved it, you did

[paper haven]

Probably true but still. Rude.

[opaque coyote]

I did have the idea of Chaos Crusaders

[paper haven]

Crusaders?

[paper haven]

Ahhhh

Sounds like a Word Bearer army to me

But, you know, actually competent

[sour hornet]

It's funny how we got chestplate in game

[paper haven]

Reminds me vaguely of a picture I once saw where a guy was painting a Sister of Battle posing in her armor and her armor looked exactly how armor should but the painter gave her high heels and an Armored corset, like how they look in the game.

[opaque coyote]

Kinda yeah

Said this idea before but fuck it

Khornate PMC group

You see they want to murder people for the blood God.

But there's a problem

[paper haven]

They got bills to pay

[opaque coyote]

Things that are used for murder require money.

[opaque coyote]

And also that yes

[paper haven]

Well, they could reasonably be said to have a munitions bill

[opaque coyote]

So essentially they branded themselves as a PMC.

Hire them, and they will kill whoever you point them at.

Other Chaos Cults, Xenos, an Imperium planet, etc.

Although I thought of payment being varied since a universal currency doesn't exist

Whether it would be more equipment, raw materials, or people

Gotta get new members somehwo

[paper haven]

This is just the indentured regiments with extra steps

Not that I don't like the idea, mind you.

I find it quite amusing

[opaque coyote]

Kinda yeah. Except probably better equipped funnily enough

I kinda thought about how like, Khornate peeps in general don't represent all of war.

Specifically how a lot of war is done through uh

Wanting money/land

With religious/moral parts being more of an excuse 80% of the time

"Yeah... I want this because uhhhh God ordained it.'

[paper haven]

God said it's fine so I'm gonna do it

Trust me bro

[opaque coyote]

So yeah I thought "Well of course some Chaos Worshippers are gonna make a PMC".

Although I'm not sure if the Imperium would try and destroy them

Logic says probably

[paper haven]

Uhhhh

[opaque coyote]

But then I have the trouble of thinking

"Wait how would they fucking survive if they constantly get chased by the Imperium"

[paper haven]

There was actually a guard regiment that was basically just pmcs

Vessorine Janissaries?

They're from a feudal or feral world and can't grasp the concept of the Imperium, so they just work for whoever pays them. Including a chaos guy that one time

Far as I know, they weren't actually punished for that.

[opaque coyote]

I also thought of them being fleet based and being around the spooky Ghoul Stars.

Y'know to like

Explain why the Imperium hasn't decimated yet for being Chaos

They're simply too much trouble

[paper haven]

Wild West rules

It's illegal but nobody's gonna bother coming out here to deal with you

[nocturne crest]

Like a more armoured version of the Blessed Blades?

[arctic talon]

Crusaders are their own faction within the imperium

[nocturne crest]

I see.

[paper haven]

I didn't know they were their own faction, just thought they were with the inquisition

[nocturne crest]

Yeah, I think it's usually the inquisition who gets them to use.

[rocky gale]

Used to be part of Sisters

[paper haven]

Isn't that not allowed?
Since the sisters themselves were supposed to be a loophole around the church not having any men bear arms or some such?

[rocky gale]

Yea but they're part of the frateris militia

[paper haven]

Which- oh, is it the crusade loophole?

[nocturne crest]

And they're like Knight houses.

[paper haven]

Rules don't apply if you're doing a crusade

Black Templars taught me that

[rocky gale]

It's like they're not technically part of the Church, they just show up and help and nobody tells them not to

[nocturne crest]

I'm going to get shit for this, but I do wish there was some variety with the crusaders weapons.

[paper haven]

Oh it's even worse

They're volunteer workers

[arctic talon]

They’re most related to the ecclisarchy technically

But even then they aren’t part of it

[nocturne crest]

I think a spear or a pole arm variant would be cool.

[plush mason]

iirc the crusaders are the personal bodyguards of cardinals, they are small in number to avoid breaking the no men at arms clause

[rocky gale]

Yea like they'll generally do what a priest says, but if asked the Priest will just be like "Yea that guy doesn't work for me, he's just here"

[arctic talon]

Wait larmoth already mentioned that

I’m dumb

But they’re a “no this totally isn’t a military branch of the church we swear”

Sort of deal

[nocturne crest]

Huh.

[plush mason]

there is also the matter of enforcement of said clause which afaik is spotty most of the time

[nocturne crest]

Their shields can contain a melta bomb that can be detonated outwards.

[paper haven]

Sure, the last sermon I held could, from a certain perspective be considered a "Tactical military briefing" wherein I "Laid out a specific set of objectives and parameters" but I can't control what they interpret!

[young pecan]

Malus Darkblade is such a "my anime OC" character and I don't even know a scrap of his lore

[paper haven]

He's got a magic sword and lost his soul to a slaaneshi daemon

And he killed his dad

On accident.

Then got brainwashed?

Might be a cannibal, not really clear on that

[rocky gale]

Least edgy Dark Elf

[astral burrow]

Is zealot a preacher

[rocky gale]

Yesish

[paper haven]

In the same way an unlicensed doctor is a medical professional

[paper haven]

I actually like him. Or like to watch him stumble from a bad situation into an even worse situation.

[astral burrow]

Cool

And is that as lame as real life preachers?

[plush mason]

the zealot is the crazy homeless dude on the street corner preaching from atop a soap box how the end is coming

[astral burrow]

But with a sword

And a gun

[plush mason]

yup

[astral burrow]

And the license to kill

[paper haven]

Except now he's working for the CIA

[plush mason]

yup

[nocturne crest]

So would giving crusaders ranged weapons ruin their aesthetics?

[plush mason]

the ecclisiarchy also use such people, an easy and disposible force to root out it's enemies and then betray to cover it's tracks

[paper haven]

And is technically the highest legal authority in the area since the mayor sacrificed his family to a demon and all the cops are zombies.

[arctic talon]

they didn't have that

[arctic talon]

No, but they're religous and traditonalist sects, using a sword is heresy

you have a shield, you have a sword, you have some of the finest carapace armor in the imperium

go fucking kill them you coward

[nocturne crest]

Yes Khorne.

[arctic talon]

SKULLS FOR THE EMPEROR

BLOOD FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE

[humble shoal]

Hes a preacher in the way charlemagne was

Stay converted or die

[arctic talon]

Tbh

I hope we get a tech priest or SoB for Dark Heresy

and they're distinct from pasqual and argenta

[humble shoal]

Argenta sucked

[arctic talon]

Argenta was fine

she is generic sister of battle

with a soft spot for orphans

[humble shoal]

||idk she killed my mom||

[humble shoal]

Actually the affinity for orphans makes sense now

[arctic talon]

yeah and it fits tbh

[humble shoal]

I mean yeah

[nocturne crest]

I wish there was more base humans with shields and guns.

[humble shoal]

Pasqal was a ... unique techpriest

[arctic talon]

Pasqal was also an asshole

in a good way

[humble shoal]

He kills so many companions

[arctic talon]

it fits tbh

but yeah if we get a tech priest

I hope they're on the nicer end compared to pasqual

can still be a psycopathic asshole just not you know

Pasqal level

SoB in DH can be full fire and brimstone preachy

lol

or some other flavor

[rocky gale]

I hope the doctor companion does unethical experiments

[astral burrow]

grendyl gave me

[astral burrow]

I hope there is a romancable lady

And character models actually look as good as the portraits

[arctic talon]

that one is not happening

[astral burrow]

Damn

[arctic talon]

even with an updated models

[astral burrow]

Well at least looks better than RT

I hope

[arctic talon]

we see the new models

yes

[astral burrow]

I couldn't see them

I was distracted

[arctic talon]

Tbh the doctor party member is prolly romancable

[humble shoal]

Sister repentia

[astral burrow]

Is that a lady

[arctic talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVqOfHFJQFA

[rocky gale]

Same

[arctic talon]

Yes she's a woman

also the kroot is a woman

fucking inqusitor gelt

[humble shoal]

Ogryn is also a woman

[arctic talon]

I wonder if thats going to be our boss

until he like

dies horribly

[arctic talon]

they are ont

*not

would be cool though

[humble shoal]

[arctic talon]

COG is a dude

[humble shoal]

Eldar is a dude

[arctic talon]

The corsair, ogryn and catachan are men yeah

[humble shoal]

Dang I thought the catechan was a chick

[arctic talon]

guh

[humble shoal]

Due to the small knife

[astral burrow]

The models look pretty good

[humble shoal]

Btw isnt it a waste to wear power armor 24/7

Like inquisitor gelt is

[astral burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-call-of-duty-black-ops-black-ops-mason-woods-man-gif-22994904

[arctic talon]

it is but he's aura farming

As with all people in the Imperium

[sacred ginkgo]

It’s a power move is what it is

[humble shoal]

Tbf calcazar did the same thing

[arctic talon]

Aura is everything

[astral burrow]

Rogue trader only had straight romances right?

Hope they change it here

[sacred ginkgo]

Nope

[arctic talon]

I'm surprised our dinky ass wooden office chair didn't break

[humble shoal]

There was the xenos

[rocky gale]

Uhh no

[sacred ginkgo]

Not even close

[arctic talon]

nah

[humble shoal]

The bad one

[rocky gale]

Jae was Bi I think

[astral burrow]

Oh sick

[arctic talon]

Maharazi, Jae, Yirlet, and the Armsmaster

oh also

Kibellah and the Arbite

are both gona be bi

Er

Kibellah is bi

the arbite is gona be bi

[humble shoal]

Kibbies is probably best girl

[astral burrow]

Hope they make everyone romancable by everyone here tho

[arctic talon]

They said as many romancable characters as RT

at least

[astral burrow]

Weird way to spell cassia

But who am I to judge

[arctic talon]

of the starting roster I think its just the Ogryn who isn't romancable

for DH lol

maybe the kroot

[humble shoal]

Cassia feels exploitative

Ngl

[arctic talon]

maybe kroot will have a like

Yirlet style romance with her

[astral burrow]

She knows literally nothing else

And I will fix her

[humble shoal]

I did romance her in my first run

[astral burrow]

Her voice makes me wanna scream in joy

[humble shoal]

Doing my second run with "Xenofugger"

[astral burrow]

Wolf show me the doctor companion

Please

[humble shoal]

For which I considered getting the really badly written yrliet sex mod, but its too bad

[astral burrow]

How did you live so long with such a heretic name

[astral burrow]

Why tf is there a sex mod

Just imagine it

[arctic talon]

my top 3 romances are like, Kibellah, Heinrix and Maharazi(not because I think the romance is cute I just think its horrifying and awful lol)

[humble shoal]

Its sooooo badly writte

[arctic talon]

Like maharazi's romance

is dark eldar to a T

[astral burrow]

That's what the black screen is for

[arctic talon]

its so fucking awful

[astral burrow]

Kibellah visually makes me want to throw up I can't handle it

[arctic talon]

in terms of like how horrifying it is

Its great

I love maharazi

[humble shoal]

He... stays in the arena

I will recruit ulfar this time though because I somehow missed him

[arctic talon]

she's scowling in the group shot, I assume her final portrait like all the other current character portraits are gona be different

since rn its just

all of one group shot of em

like this art lol

[humble shoal]

Cant wait for an assasin companion

[arctic talon]

culexus

If you're a psyker

[humble shoal]

Eversor

[arctic talon]

LOL

Eversor or Culexus are my most wanted

for an assasinorum companion

[astral burrow]

Nah the doctor lady isn't my type

[humble shoal]

Or the weird half xenos ones

[arctic talon]

because of how fucking unhinged they are

lol

That one only had one

made