@languid meadow so the tww3 thing was a Norscan character apparently
#40k-lore-chat
spring cairn
rocky gale
Damn
languid meadow
and the 3 headed creature is nightmaw
sacred bluff
Mawmaw is not the law
I am the law...
Dredd is honestly one of the best comic adaptations ever
sacred bluff
Dredd and Blade
crystal forum
only now do you realize how cool arbites are
it is too late!!!
im so angry right now i could perform a coup on cuba using the CIA
sacred bluff
wasn't godwin feshig an arbites?
vagrant fox
well they're no space marines but I guess they're alright
crystal forum
it is too late for you
you should have realized before
they are objectively the coolest looking imperial faction
sacred bluff
sour hornet
Even the fucking dog is aura farming
crystal forum
and anime pfp wanted sisters of battle
nah you're getting the faction that gets shit done
sacred bluff
custodes?
storm jungle
Even the fucking dog is aura farming
I still cannot get over this image
LET HIM COOK.
crystal forum
now they will finally add shotguns to darktide
crystal forum
probably the most likely faction to be added to this game and NOBODY guessed it
everybody was talking about admec or sisters
sour hornet
everybody was talking about admec or sisters
LOSERS
rocky gale
Do you think Arbites will start off dripped or do thay look like scrubs on release?
astral burrow
Clutched a damnation run, got down, they got jumped by 2 bosses
astral burrow
Do you think Arbites will start off dripped or do thay look like scrubs on relea...
If they aren't rejects
No reason for prisoner garb
crystal forum
i didnt even think of that larmoth
astral burrow
That's why I been asking if dlc readily comes with clothes
Maybe they will add some to hestia milestones
vagrant fox
Start out looking like a mall cop and end up looking like the swaggiest mfer around
crystal forum
i wanna know the logic of an arbites who was sentenced to death
sour hornet
Knowing fatshark, probably. Though they didn't give the fgs and relic blade skins for weeks.
crystal forum
"well im not dead today so i guess im following the law"
sour hornet
This is different though, being paid, so maybe.
astral burrow
i wanna know the logic of an arbites who was sentenced to death
"This must be a mistake, I am a loyal servant to the throne"
crystal forum
naaaah
astral burrow
Nah needs a new prologue
crystal forum
arbites fully trust the process of law
astral burrow
An arbite ain't taking shit from Zola of all people
crystal forum
they worship law
astral burrow
And who makes the law?
sour hornet
I mean, literal astartes run astray of things
crystal forum
yes and arbites will shoot astartes without a second thought lol
sour hornet
Sisters can fuck up and end up repentia or worse.
crystal forum
arbites follow the law like the zealot follows the emperor
sour hornet
And zealot is in the Inquisition now.
crystal forum
if an arbites is evil then he really thinks what he's doing is legally justified
chaos i mean
sour hornet
Being on the wrong side of an Imperial legal squabble will get you shitcanned.
storm jungle
i wanna know the logic of an arbites who was sentenced to death
He was not sentenced to death.
Arbites arent rejects.
astral burrow
Can't wait for new prologue
vagrant fox
shotgun buff incoming
astral burrow
coincidentally there's already a bunch of shotguns in the game
A good non double barrel would be sick
Full auto shotgun
crystal forum
you mean like the combat shotguns already in game
sour hornet
No
astral burrow
you mean like the combat shotguns already in game
Those are full auto?
sour hornet
Because those are pumps and semis
astral burrow
sour hornet
^ give me that
astral burrow
I wanna magdump a full auto
crystal forum
you could also click faster
astral burrow
But they are still relaoding one by one
crystal forum
the shotgun the arbites is holding is not magazine fed
and this game still HAS NO MELTA GUN
arbites will get trap gun, discount ogryn shield and flashbangs
near wasp
I wanna magdump a full auto
Same but for an actual gun
astral burrow
the shotgun the arbites is holding is not magazine fed
Smh
vagrant fox
the arbites will get the krieg auto shotgun this is my wisdom
astral burrow
and this game still HAS NO MELTA GUN
The weapon customization mod gives melta magazines
crystal forum
also grenade lauchers probably
crystal forum
The weapon customization mod gives melta magazines
i dont care
astral burrow
the arbites will get the krieg auto shotgun this is my wisdom
NOOOOOO GIVE THIS TO THE ZEALOT I WANT IT
astral burrow
i dont care
I am saying it has to be in the files somehow
Cuz that mod solely uses things from the game
vagrant fox
I don't expect anything, but getting this stupid scoped shotgun would be a +2
crystal forum
literally everything they use is a shotgun
which is very funny
that thing shoots slugs so it's just a rifle
but it's still pump action
astral burrow
Imma start sm1
storm jungle
literally everything they use is a shotgun
it makes killing civillians easier
hallow plover
I just want to play arbites and beat poxxies with a shockstick or something. Like a cop at a student manifestation
sour hornet
the arbites will get the krieg auto shotgun this is my wisdom
Im praying for your wisdom sigsen
crystal forum
they'd get sued by the metro gun designers
astral burrow
Anything u guys recommend watching on Warhammer+?
storm jungle
Honestly just watch whatever is on
late osprey
if you already have warhammer+ then its all pretty good imo
storm jungle
theres barely anything as is
astral burrow
if you already have warhammer+ then its all pretty good imo
I definitely do
Totally
late osprey
as far as just things to watch, i liked exodite
storm jungle
Theres a few guardsman related stuff in there
you can see them on the covers of episodes
astral burrow
you can see them on the covers of episodes
there are no covers in you know what tho
spring cairn
this would be decent if it wasn't in the hands of the AI
pistoliers are cracked early game
storm jungle
not the worst pick
sly ivy
Bros it’s my 20th college reunion am I legally deceased
Someone take me out back and shoot me
There are many people here with the requisite firearm expertise
astral burrow
Why did u even go
A guard talking back to a sister of battle
Damn the balls on that woman
sly ivy
sly ivy
Why did u even go
I live in town
astral burrow
Ah turns out I gotta watch the 9th edition trailer first
astral burrow
I live in town
Do u like it there at the reunion
Necron weaponry is terrifying
What do u even do against that
astral burrow
That mf one shot a space marine
How is this balanced
Where tf is the emperor
Help them bro
The sister if battle is really cute tho
Blood stain on the white hair goes insanely hard
Naaaaah this fucker is blaming the guard
Normal ass people
She is either coping or she is an asshat smh smh
young pecan
The humble horse army:
astral burrow
I think I
Get what is going on with that guard
@storm jungle have you seen priah nexus?
Pariah*
storm jungle
Yeah I have.
storm jungle
Huh?
astral burrow
The way she can talk back to the sister in a way that would be considered straight up heresy
Doesn't even pick up a weappn
dapper gyro
Stop asking questions and keep watching.
astral burrow
None of the hostiles target her
Done with episode 1 got no time to continue lol
Gotta sleep
Kriegs looked so good
storm jungle
Yeah them getting massacred was peak
storm jungle
The way she can talk back to the sister in a way that would be considered straig...
Like Dein said gotta keep watching
storm jungle
Not that part nah
Nah it was PEAK
dapper gyro
You are everything wrong with the 40K fanbase.
- Read no lore online at the minimum
- Simp for odd and old people... (at least not the other extreme)
- Simp for the Krieg...
astral burrow
Why do u hate kriegsmen...
astral burrow
You are everything wrong with the 40K fanbase.
- Read no lore online at the min...
Whatever you say
lofty mason
Are Arbites inspired from Judges from Judges Dredd? Also, excited for the Arbites class
dapper gyro
Yes
dapper gyro
It is why it is funny when they tried to copyright the "space marine". So many of the shit they made are stolen from other.
astral burrow
What is space marine stolen from
storm jungle
Are Arbites inspired from Judges from Judges Dredd? *Also, excited for the Arbit...
Entirely yeah
they were straight up ripped off
sacred ginkgo
Yeah, arbites are one of those things in universe that were created in the 80s/90s when 40k was looking at stuff that was popular and went “we can do that”
storm jungle
only now after like 30 IRL years GW is starting to change their appearances to be less Dredd-like
sacred ginkgo
Catachans are like this
astral burrow
Catachans are like this
What are they based on?
storm jungle
What is space marine stolen from
Popular sci-fi idea of Space Marines
sacred ginkgo
What are they based on?
Predator
astral burrow
I am not knowledgeable in 80s pop culture
dapper gyro
80s US action movies
dapper gyro
Rambo, Commando, Predator, etc.
astral burrow
Or pop culture in general
astral burrow
Vietnam war americans + 80's action movies like Predator
Ah those
sacred ginkgo
The idea of macho guy in a tank top fighting stuff in the jungle
astral burrow
It is more the war than the movie then tho no?
dapper gyro
It is 100% the movies.
dapper gyro
Because actual soldiers in Vietnam never looks that buff.
astral burrow
But still kinda awesome
sacred ginkgo
What kind of creature grows a forged steel claw
astral burrow
It is 40k there is a lot I don't know there could be someone with a metal skeleton for all I know
Did they not rip off wolverine
dapper gyro
Catachan has Straken*, who is a reference to Terminator, lol.
astral burrow
Skaven? Aren't those sigmar?
sacred ginkgo
Like 90% of 40k is very derivative, they’ve been taking the last 30 years to make it more original
astral burrow
Like 90% of 40k is very derivative, they’ve been taking the last 30 years to mak...
It did turn out pretty good tho
arctic talon
Most original thing in 40K is the Orks by far
Well
Even then maybe not
But they’re pretty original in terms of presentation
opaque coyote
idk
it's like $6 outside the sale so its probably mid
but hey free shit is free shit
astral burrow
Yeah looked it up
Thought the devils claw was literally made from covering a claw of that in metal or smth lol
radiant lance
Most original thing in 40K is the Orks by far
99% sure they're original because it was from the wish of a make a wish kid to tour GW, and they give them the idea of orkz can just will things as truth, but they're dumb
I'm not sure where the whole mushroom ecosystem thing came from given it's also a warhammer fantasy thing
storm jungle
Well
orks are not original as a species for obvious reasons
but the mushroom thing is a warhammer thing yeah
radiant lance
Yeah of course the concept of orcs come from Tolkien
winter vessel
Uruk Hai are still one of my favorite concepts of a fantasy Ork race
late osprey
warhammer did come up with orks being green, though
and it was apparently by complete accident
astral burrow
Those krieg gas masks with skull plates on them
Do those have a real life inspiration?
dapper gyro
Orc is not even from Tolkien 1st, it is borrowed from Anglo-Saxon with influence from Christianity.
radiant lance
Skulls were inspired by the bones of homo sapiens
dapper gyro
As in, the word "Orc" is not his invention.
astral burrow
Skulls were inspired by the bones of homo sapiens
No shit lmao
I mean gas masks with plates on them
dapper gyro
Cool factor
astral burrow
But does it have any real world inspiration at all? All of kriegs look is just WW1 stuff
winter vessel
There are no sources of any connection with Gas masks that had a skull plating. And it honestly takes away the intimidation factor
astral burrow
Yeah there doesn't seem to be
dapper gyro
It would be damned if you think Krieg looks like a typical WW1 trench soldier.
astral burrow
And no, Krieg is ww1 inspired, but it is not actual ww1 gear at all.
Can't you find basically all the gear they wear in real life?
dapper gyro
0
dapper gyro
Actual 0
dapper gyro
The gas mask and helmet are real
Nope...
storm jungle
Its inspired by real gear but fictional
dapper gyro
So is the overcoat
Not even...
astral burrow
Its inspired by real gear but fictional
Is it one to one with a German helmet and a British gas mask
winter vessel
You can make a “resemblance” of the gear for cosplaying reasons but it’s not gonna be accurate
dapper gyro
You can cosplay them using real life stuff to save money and effort from creating art accurate gear, but it is not the same.
crystal forum
Is it one to one with a German helmet and a British gas mask
no
the gas mask is completely fictional
sacred bluff
non* fictional tyvm
crystal forum
let me guess the guy chose a random hose filter gas mask
i will look and laugh at this fool
yup
winter vessel
Outside of the flak armor (and obvious prosthetic). I’d argue that the Praetorian Guard comes close to using real battle dress garb.
crystal forum
i am correct as always
winter vessel
And fancy hat
crystal forum
in case you non gas mask enjoyers are wondering, many gas masks in history had hoses. it allows you to put the filter in a bag at your chest so the mask doesn't have to be dragged down by the weight of the filter
my GP-5 has one and it looks nothing like krieg
winter vessel
But we eventually transitioned to the canister filter ones right?
plush mason
I shall meep now
winter vessel
https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meep-funny-spongebob-squarepants-gif-3422093
“Long tan and handsome”
crystal forum
But we eventually transitioned to the canister filter ones right?
i think it's because gas masks started being made out of hard plastic so you don't actually have it droop down on your face anymore with the weight. plus the hose is just really cumbersome
dapper gyro
See, Krait, you are a very typical Krieg fan, know nothing more than surface level...
But don't worry, we will fix you.
We will make you marvelous like us.
crystal forum
But we eventually transitioned to the canister filter ones right?
the hoses still use canisters they're just in the bags
the hose is literally an extension
plush mason
the imperial german gas mask
crystal forum
those things were single use btw. filter is part of the whole thing
plush mason
yeah
crystal forum
you were meant to use them for a gas attack and discard
winter vessel
i list of the different kinds of gas masks
P helmet looks like its the adolescent form of gas masks, lol
plush mason
the Ars is clearly just a copy of the german one
dapper gyro
Canadian C4 gas mask and a few others have hose to drink water...
plush mason
P helmet looks like its the adolescent form of gas masks, lol
well they all are lol
winter vessel
The Zelinsky-Kumant got some Pinocchio action going on there
crystal forum
yeah idk what that thing is
dapper gyro
Some people made extended hose so they can put water elsewhere...
crystal forum
but you can tell the big coffee can type filter would be pretty heavy
that's what the hoses were for
plush mason
yeah idk what that thing is
its imperial Russian thats all i can say really
dapper gyro
Btw, non of those masks is as horrifying as the Mickey Mouse gas mask.
crystal forum
its imperial Russian thats all i can say really
somehow it clearly looks like the precessor to the GP5 which is pretty cute
like the grandfather
winter vessel
??
crystal forum
was meant to make kids less stressed during a gas attack
yes it did
it was british
it was officially licensed by disney
winter vessel
“Hoh hoh. War crimes, bitch”-in the voice of Mickey Mouse
crystal forum
it's a kid's size gas mask
plush mason
it was british
oh well that explains it, tramatizing their kids in a national pass time in the UK
crystal forum
lol
winter vessel
Be a pretty good prop for a horror flick
dapper gyro
Thanks Dicis for looking for the picture.
crystal forum
well it's made for a kid so your horror character will be tiny
crystal forum
did you guys see the disney propaganda films
winter vessel
The one where Donald does the salute?
crystal forum
back when propaganda had effort smh
yeah making fun of hitler
morale boosters for american troops
winter vessel
I remember the old propaganda film for the “Army”
dapper gyro
They should bring back the pin up art.
winter vessel
Tokio Jokio
dapper gyro
Pin up art will 100% improve my morale.
winter vessel
Was one
crystal forum
i really like those old WW2 army education videos that are super well animated
these days you get a powerpoint presentation
plush mason
back when propaganda had effort smh
that old army recruitment song was good
well i guess its not that old
winter vessel
Nowadays we’ll be using AI slop
plush mason
yup
crystal forum
guh
winter vessel
At that point the people of opposing nations would form a truce and instead wage war on AI artists
Because they can’t get behind the propaganda, lmao
late osprey
i like the US army videos about how to not be an asshole in the country your base is stationed at
dapper gyro
Oh, you haven't see the Canadian one...
winter vessel
i like the US army videos about how to not be an asshole in the country your bas...
I remember that point time when they were using 2d animation to tell “Stories”
dapper gyro
It is so fucking bad.
late osprey
winter vessel
Never have I felt that much disappointment and wished WW3 would start
late osprey
"the pub is NOT like a saloon"
winter vessel
I remember that point time when they were using 2d animation to tell “Stories”
Think it was like, three years ago?
“The Calling” is what it was called
sacred bluff
late osprey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyYSBBE1DFw
i forgot that the bad example just gets fucking exploded with his mind
thats hilarious
winter vessel
ah, my favorite non-chaos god aligned legion
the unappreciated 9 to 5 'ers
the Iron Warriors
sacred bluff
ah, my favorite non-chaos god aligned legion
if perturabo is aligned with nurgle, does that make his legion aligned with him?
winter vessel
if perturabo is aligned with nurgle, does that make his legion aligned with him?
Its hard to tell, it would mainly be a decision of the individual. They still answer to their primarch but the IW gave two middle fingers to the Pantheon and refuse to pledge to any of the gods. If anything, the best i can say is "whatever the writer decides to make canon".
late osprey
no because legion cohesion and loyalty is pretty much nonexistent as a macro-rule among chaos
individual marines might be Perturabo's Top Guy or otherwise Iron Warriors till the end, other marines hate their primarchs and would gladly swap color schemes the moment it becomes convenient
although Iron Warriors do apparently have a stronger cohesion than some other legions, they're still pretty much splintered many of them are alike only in name
tough haven
Alright guys, where are my dnd nerds at?
arctic talon
Alright guys, where are my dnd nerds at?
dapper gyro
Don't ask where, ask what.
lofty cargo
Alright guys, where are my dnd nerds at?
What it do
tough haven
Yall like dnd?
tough haven
You can find groups online pretty easily
winter vessel
like just in general?
sacred ginkgo
Yall like dnd?
Yes, have a question in mind?
tough haven
Yes, have a question in mind?
What are the mechanical differences between warlock and sorcerer, trying to decide between the two and subclasses
sacred ginkgo
Warlock has very limited spell slots and only goes up to 5th level slots via conventional casting (they can get the rest via a feature), but they regenerate on Short Rest
They also have a unique feature called Invocations which give you neat features like a sword that scales with your spellcasting stat or spells you can cast for free
Sorcerer is a full caster with a spell list focused on mostly spontaneous effects and their unique mechanic is Sorcery Points, which let you modify spells in a variety of ways, like rerolling damage or discluding targets from an AOE
Both are charisma casters with d8 hitdice
Warlock hybridizes into weapons based combat much better
OH and warlock always upcasts spells
arctic talon
What are the mechanical differences between warlock and sorcerer, trying to deci...
Warlock is a half caster(sorta) and you use both weapons and spells. You have limited spell slots but they come back with short rests.
Sorcerer is a full caster with all the usual spell slots and rules for that. They have sorcery points which let them modify spells in specific ways
dapper gyro
Warlock has one of the strongest cantrip, if not just overall spell in the game, Eldritch Blast. Then otherwise, their spells usually get more bonus than other classes rather than having access to more spells.
arctic talon
eldritch blast™️
sacred ginkgo
Rogue trader is actually stupid I just 1 turned the Defiler without touching the batteries
queen laurel
Rogue trader is actually stupid I just 1 turned the Defiler without touching the...
ah yes the my character can't do anything else but my god they are good at killing
scenic bolt
you can get real broken real fast in RT
queen laurel
you can get real broken real fast in RT
yeah you can do some funny shit
like
dogmatic psyker
tough haven
RT is rocket tag to the max
crystal forum
hey you
languid meadow
Don't know if this has been posted or not but
crystal forum
i saw you in the helldivers server
languid meadow
Dh will be fully voiced unlike RT
crystal forum
im reporting you to HR
queen laurel
Don't know if this has been posted or not but
oh damn
But because of that
i think the dialogue is gonna be a bit more less in text
languid meadow
I'd have to find it but they also said DH will have the same amount of dialogue and choice that RT has
languid meadow
Tragic
crystal forum
skill issue
languid meadow
The PC will remain unvoiced like PoE or Baldur's Gate
queen laurel
The PC will remain unvoiced like PoE or Baldur's Gate
or rt
their voice lines are just going to be like random sayings right
late osprey
im really
really curious
to see the alignment system
there is so much room for incredibly interesting philosophies in DH
i think that can potentially be a major point for it if they do it well
having the story really pay attention to the sort of inquisitor you choose to be
as for me? im gonna try to be as Monodominant as i can
queen laurel
as for me? im gonna try to be as Monodominant as i can
fuck it
tough haven
Nah bro I’m gonna be a revisionist
late osprey
i'll be one of Karamazov's buddies
arctic talon
to see the alignment system
Imo it’s prolly gona be dogmatic/iconoclast/heretic but with a radical/puritan belief selection
late osprey
Imo it’s prolly gona be dogmatic/iconoclast/heretic but with a radical/puritan b...
thats the bare bones situation probably
but still i can wish that they go hardcore with the writing
arctic talon
I’m going to assume the big choices won’t be tied to alignment
Also tbf
Dogmatic vs heretic in RT is very diffrent
I’d assume they’d put a lot more effort in differentiation
In dark heresy
late osprey
if disco elysium can do CopoTypes and Politics, DH can pull off philosophies
late osprey
thought bubble: "You really hate Xenos, don't you?"
arctic talon
Is my opinion tbh
late osprey
yeah, philosophies are still categorized in the puritan/radical buckets
arctic talon
thought bubble: "You *really* hate Xenos, don't you?"
“Maybe you should have joined the Ordo xenos instead of hereticus, too late now”
queen laurel
But they’ll still be tied to dogmatic/icono/heretic
i mean if you go with just radical/puritan
those are still like bad guy bad guy
a radical can be good but like you know
they can also just be utterly bad like really bad
late osprey
in RT terms radicals would be both Iconoclasts and Heretic
queen laurel
they need a third one to really balance it out
arctic talon
in RT terms radicals would be both Iconoclasts and Heretic
Yeah this
queen laurel
in RT terms radicals would be both Iconoclasts and Heretic
this yeah
arctic talon
I wonder why they changed the name from benevolentia to iconoclast
queen laurel
But just making a third good guy alignment is good enough
queen laurel
I wonder why they changed the name from benevolentia to iconoclast
Was that the original alignment name?
late osprey
it is kinda weird since iconoclast is, practically speaking, the wholesome chungus good guy alignment anyway
might as well just call it "GoodGuyism"
queen laurel
it is kinda weird since iconoclast is, practically speaking, the wholesome chung...
this is the definition of an iconoclast
The only reason we consider it a good guy is because the religion we are attacking is incredibly shit
late osprey
in fact they probably SHOULD have stuck with benevolentia because my friend was complaining about essentially getting scammed into going that route because he thought it was the neutral option and would be the one that lets him also be a space pirate Rogue Trader
queen laurel
if you're using this in a religion that say its core belief is being kind and charitable to the people you're gonna get seen as a very bad person
late osprey
i think its probably iconoclast to warn players that you're going down a seditious path
queen laurel
it was called beneovlentia originally
beneovlentia in Latin is goodwill
and being kind
arctic talon
i think its probably iconoclast to warn players that you're going down a seditio...
def
late osprey
benevolentia is more accurate to what you actually end up doing in 40k
arctic talon
Benevolentia doesn't imply its a bad thing
but it is what you are in the imperiums eye
lol
Oh also fun fact
Calcazar if you work with him
late osprey
but it could still blindside a player when at the end it goes "Your entire planet gets blown up because you're a renegade."
queen laurel
will protect you from the Imperium
yeah but isn't he like a radical
queen laurel
because you know his plans
arctic talon
yeah but isn't he like a radical
Imperium thinks he's a puritan
lol
And outwordly he presents himself as a puritan heavily
he enforces puritan policies
ect.
Ignore the
queen laurel
he enforces puritan policies
smart prick
arctic talon
"It will only be Heresy if I lose. And I will not lose"
queen laurel
now granted that means you have to work with fucking calcazar
a rt tabletop alignments limited to humans?
or can the xenos players get them
queen laurel
it has a dif alignment thing
so do xenos have a different alignment option in rt tabletop?
arctic talon
not how that works
queen laurel
not how that works
so they just don't have an alignment option?
arctic talon
its just a generic "acts like their race, doesn't act like their race, is literally chaos aligned"
lol
eldar obviously
cannot take the third
same with orks
its like a vibes o meter
instead of alignment
queen laurel
its like a vibes o meter
i see like least orky ork
that's willing to help people
because he just wants to kill them
later
queen laurel
i was always calcazar's guy
typical
queen laurel
working for the crazy guy who claims he's not crazy
queen laurel
tbh he's really cool
oh yeah like
He was genuinely good with the leading around the RT if you didn't work for him
it literally took you until the end of the game to realize his plans
late osprey
i mean
the story doesnt even establish why his plan is bad, it doesnt blow up in his face like it really logically would otherwise
in fact in the Calcazar Wins ending slides he only gets killed by a teleporting Ulfar
kudos to owlcat for letting you side with him instead of some copout "no see we actually have to fight because im the boss fight sorry haha"
arctic talon
the story doesnt even establish why his plan is bad, it doesnt blow up in his fa...
tbh the plan is only bad if you know 40k lore
but like his plan is very sound on paper
lol
late osprey
even if it makes ending way less climactic
arctic talon
oh also I like the bait and switch when you defeat the shard with him
imo
where he reaches for his belt
I thought he was going to fucking shoot me
LOL
queen laurel
but like his plan is very sound on paper
If I tell someone who doesn't know about 40K that this guy's plan is to enslave a God that betrayed the people that worshipped them
they're gonna see me as a crazy guy
arctic talon
but no he just goes to share some amsec with you
late osprey
tbh the plan is only bad if you know 40k lore
nono i mean like the ending slide is literally like
late osprey
"And his plan was going amazing and perfect until Ulfar teleports behind him and kills him."
like lol ok
or if ulfar isnt available its like "Until he gets randomly shot in the head in a battle because that's 40k baby!"
which i actually like over the teleporting ulfar one
late osprey
but ideally it'd be something like the ending slide reveals the C'Tan breaking free and atomizing him
arctic talon
and is burried in the von valancious catacombs
late osprey
thats how id do it at least
arctic talon
if you don't nab ulfar iirc
tbf
the ending slide for calc does state that "As for himself, he wanted to embark as soon as possible on a search for the next C'tan Shard, but fate did not allow him to continue this grand quest."
which to me implies something went wrong
late osprey
yeah, the fate not allowing him is ulfar crushing his skull in between his thighs
or the nondescript killed in battle
at least iirc its killed in battle
also i like how u can join the inquisition and the ending slide basically says that you become Heinrix's party member
and that he's a huge fan of the ol switcharoo
arctic talon
lol
tough haven
I’ve never once sided with calcazar
Fuck you dude, if I like your plan I’ll just take it from you
There’s a zero chance my RT would trust that mf as far as he could throw him
Also can’t do ||Nomos|| ending if you side with him and he’s literally my child so
Love how my RT is like “no your plan is insane” kills him, then immediately enacts his plan
late osprey
"... actually, that wasn't a bad idea"
it did bug me that pasqal kills yrliet later
not because my companions die because That's 40k, Baby!
but because my yrliet would never have lost to my pasqal
my pasqal as a chump compared to her
it shouldve been like randomized or something, who kills who
dapper gyro
The Cadian chick in the Darktide shop right now* is said to have full set of carapace and use plasma... So she is pretty much a Kasrkin, right?
lament shoal
Are tyranids safe for human consumption
arctic talon
like
queen laurel
Are tyranids safe for human consumption
nope even kroot
spark nebula
it did bug me that pasqal kills yrliet later
This did not happen to me because I Commissar'd her ass during our first meeting
arctic talon
its just that its outlawed
queen laurel
Nids are safe for kroot consumption
how
arctic talon
in their society
lament shoal
Can I eat an ork
arctic talon
Yes
spark nebula
Hell I even killed that old guy who was gonna help me in his dying moments
lament shoal
I must know which xenos are edible
arctic talon
same way they can eat mildly chaos tainted stuff
queen laurel
Can I eat an ork
only squigs\
arctic talon
lol
languid meadow
Grilled ork yum
queen laurel
Actual orcs are incredibly tough
languid meadow
Technically you can have an ork burger now
spark nebula
I must know which xenos are edible
Based and Bardinpilled
arctic talon
poor drukhari engage in cannibalism regularly
so there's your answer on the edibility of Eldar
lament shoal
That doesn't surprise me lol
arctic talon
Tau are def edible
queen laurel
Orks are edible
yeah but it would probably taste and feel like cardboard
queen laurel
Tau are def edible
Yeah humans to
languid meadow
Everything is edible if you aren't a coward
arctic talon
Kroot like to offer food thats safe to other races to people they like
lol
which is usually like
someones fucking arm or something
queen laurel
Kroot like to offer food thats safe to other races to people they like
they forgot to take into account that their digestive system is differen?
arctic talon
no
its specifically for stuff thats edible
Kroot aren't gona offer you a space marines poison spitting gland
lol
lament shoal
Grot on a stick
queen laurel
Grot on a stick
i am guessing that orks and gretchen would be annoying to eat and chew
sacred ginkgo
Everything is edible if you aren't a coward
Everything is edible at least once
queen laurel
Grot on a stick
attack squigs have a butchering guide and these guys are the most common type of squigs a human will see and encounter
arctic talon
The Cadian chick in the Darktide shop right now* is said to have full set of car...
Yeah she's a kasrkin
or at least looks like one heavily
arctic talon
bomb squigs are a specific sub species of oil squig
iirc
but oil squigs are close enough to attack squigs lol
lament shoal
Double quarter pounder squig burger with cheese from McGork's
arctic talon
at least for the modern depiction of em
queen laurel
bomb squigs are a specific sub species of oil squig
nah
they're just attack squigs with a bunch of explosives stuck to them
arctic talon
huh
opaque coyote
Kroot like to offer food thats safe to other races to people they like
Hopefully other races
Cause it would be fucking wild if they just offered to a Guevesa
opaque coyote
"Hey here's a human arm"
opaque coyote
they def offer human meat to humans
That is wild.
opaque coyote
to see peoples reactions
Kroot Prankster channel
queen laurel
Kroot have a sickish sense of humor
they're like ork level
opaque coyote
"HEY GUYS TODAY WE'RE GONNA DO A SICK PRANK. LET'S GOOO-"
queen laurel
But less fuck
opaque coyote
always accept them
"I'm sorry. Your son died in the war. We couldn't find his body but.."
munch munch "Oh yeah I found it." Crunch "I saved you the head. Here you go."
Throws the son's head towards his mother
lofty mason
Not gonna lie. Since Mastiff will be added with the Arbites, they could also add Skitaari class with some armed servo-skull following you 
shadow plover
the arbites class might have something similar already with the vox system they have
queen laurel
the arbites class might have something similar already with the vox system they ...
i mean they are confirmed to be getting this
Nuncio-Aquila drone
shadow plover
that's what I meant
opaque coyote
Imagine a Kroot Gordon Ramsay.
"IF I DIDN'T KNOW BETTER. I WOULD'VE ASSUMED THAT WAS STILL ALIVE! IT'S STILL FUCKING RAW!"
astral burrow
Morning
opaque coyote
Yo
opaque coyote
Kroot have a sickish sense of humor
This really makes me wish for more Auxiliaries
Or to be more specific
More details for said Auxiliaries
lofty mason
Does Arbites have the authority to arrest inquisitor agent?
opaque coyote
Cause these type of details are neat
opaque coyote
Does Arbites have the authority to arrest inquisitor agent?
No
queen laurel
Does Arbites have the authority to arrest inquisitor agent?
if they have proof yes
opaque coyote
if they have proof yes
Aren't the Inquistor's basically only answerable to other Inquistor's and the Emperor
sacred ginkgo
Does Arbites have the authority to arrest inquisitor agent?
Complicated
arctic talon
Does Arbites have the authority to arrest inquisitor agent?
maybe it depends™️
opaque coyote
Either way, good fucking luck trying to arrest an Inquistor
I'm sure it would go well for you
sacred ginkgo
The supreme voice of the law tries to arrest the secret police outside the law
Guess what happens
opaque coyote
The supreme voice of the law tries to arrest the secret police outside the law
I still remember the All Guardsman Party where that exact fucking thing happens
It was fucking hilarious due to the Arbite basically being Judge Dredd reincarnated into 40k
(As if the Arbites aren't already the judges copy and pasted)
Although tbf they're inquistorial agents rather than actual Inquistors
So
dapper gyro
They are agents of the terra, they work with and not for the inquisition.
burnt maple
I still remember the All Guardsman Party where that exact fucking thing happens
Arbites in the "Cold Shoulder" saga tho.
Peak.
raven stone
Even though it looks like these are full, non-criminal Arbites
I should still note it is possible for Arbites themselves to be caught violating the law (or attempting to punish someone too powerful) and be caught in the snare of the very laws they uphold.
dapper gyro
Shit like that happens.
raven stone
(Also if these guys are full Arbites, we will definitely need to get a new intro segment, which we are indeed getting, to cover all 5 classes)
dapper gyro
I think once an inquisitor took a platoon of Scions to take revenge on the Arbites, killed almost a whole base until a Custodian came by and deleted the Scions.
raven stone
Classic non-Astartes Imperial civil war…
tough haven
Does the Ordo xenos send operatives to monitor any “sanctioned” xenos activity? Like mercenary work, etc, to make sure there’s no unsavory dealings
raven stone
It is a possibility
No hard yes or no
Probably varies according to individual Inquisitor's preference as well
One example - even though they were fighting Chaos - is Heinrix being sent to overtly keep tabs on Von Valancius dynasty
sacred bluff
i finally bought my favorite legions 😌
modern rapids
Are there different "schools" of Psykers in warhammer? Like specializations, different "Psyker arts" in battle etc.?
queen laurel
Are there different "schools" of Psykers in warhammer? Like specializations, dif...
yes
psykers can specialize in a discipline or combine multiple
celest dome
Also those are just the most common ones and there exist many that have never really been represented or showcased
Fulmination and Promethean probably are Pyromancy
Interromancy and Verminspeaking, Telepathy
Geokinesis Telekinesis
Umbramancy could be cool to see
Using shadows to conceals strikes and such
queen laurel
Umbramancy could be cool to see
NO
I DON'T WANT DARKTIDE KNIFE ASSASIN PSYKERS
celest dome
Tbh Promethean could be the most cool if it doesn't mean fire (mythos) but rather this
||# Crab mancy||
wintry scarab
Btw, i havent done my research so ill just ask here, is the mastiff for the new class a passive for the class or is it an ability? Basically, are you forced to rock with the dog or can you take it off?
queen laurel
Btw, i havent done my research so ill just ask here, is the mastiff for the new ...
Specifics like that we don't really know
wintry scarab
Also ive just had my lvl30 vet talk about ratlings. The patchnotes lied.
languid meadow
https://youtu.be/-wN0zM9gp-s?si=QZKOAf4KLwERHjGi norscaing it
celest dome
Still spiteful against the dlc team for that game 
outer wave
Still spiteful against the dlc team for that game <:angymorrow:10626705689162670...
What exactly is your beef with them?
queen laurel
Still spiteful against the dlc team for that game <:angymorrow:10626705689162670...
OK dechala was a good
Why don't you like the choice for norsca
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/monkey-hummer-nail-gif-14595785
how much are you gonna hate this norsca update
i wonder
queen laurel
The last DLC was good, Thrones of Chaos
Yeah but the next DLC after that omens of destruction
Was mid
mint magnet
Yeah but the next DLC after that omens of destruction
Yeahhhhhh
I do think they did a better job with that one but also they need to do more to make up for the shit ass dlcs
celest dome
OK dechala was a good
Why don't you like the choice for norsca
Sayl should have been in WoC
queen laurel
Yeahhhhhh
don't get me wrong the ogre additions knocked it out of the park 10 out of 10
khorne and orks are not the worst but are just OK
mint magnet
Yeah it was not a great follow up to the Tamurkhan dlc
queen laurel
Yeah it was not a great follow up to the Tamurkhan dlc
but hey like i said it could have been way way worse
queen laurel
Sayl should have been in WoC
alright time to hear the cacti fire Slayer
Tell me what norska should have gotten as a legendary Lord
spring cairn
the only dogshit was SoC but they ended up making it better
celest dome
alright time to hear the cacti fire Slayer
Tell me what norska should have go...
Beorg Bearstruck
mint magnet
I do need to play the orc campaign sometime
queen laurel
this guy looks like he eats kids for breakfast
celest dome
ok i agree
I knew you wpuld
mint magnet
I play Orcs for old world, I should play an orc campaign at some point
queen laurel
I play Orcs for old world, I should play an orc campaign at some point
how keen are you on strategy
mint magnet
how keen are you on strategy
I like it but I also like charging in for a good krump
queen laurel
I like it but I also like charging in for a good krump
hmm do you hate the badlands position?
mint magnet
hmm do you hate the badlands position?
Its fine
I do like Night Gobbos and Black Orcs the most tho
languid meadow
More skinwolves and the ironskin tribe is all I want in a DLC
queen laurel
I do like Night Gobbos and Black Orcs the most tho
Okay then you either go grimgor or skarsnik
I suggest grimgor
If you just want to invest into black orcs
Skarsnik specializing and goblins needs you to be a bit more cunning
To win
mint magnet
Unless I invest in Mauler Squigs uwu
queen laurel
Unless I invest in Mauler Squigs uwu
Yeah i suppose that can also work
sacred bluff
WAAAGH!! is all youz needz wif dem beakies
outer wave
Whomst is this lad?
queen laurel
Whomst is this lad?
Beorg Bearstruck
the one cacti said should be the legendary Lord
and i agree
outer wave
What's his deal? Was he struck by a werebear and became one?
outer wave
That's pretty rad
celest dome
Chaos gift
languid meadow
Grimskulling it
celest dome
Norsca should be pawns of Chaosbthst aren't really that far into Chaos and mostly live their pillaging life.
The Troll, the Hunter and the Merc
queen laurel
Grimskulling it
They actually just straight up turned him into a goff
which is interesting
he used to be evil sunz
queen laurel
Grimskulling it
the red complimented him much more back then
his black ish color does not work
celest dome
Sayl should have been a Lord of WoC.
Valkia, Festus, Villitch and the other slaanesh dude should have been in their Monogod factions
outer wave
the red complimented him much more back then
his black ish color does not work
Yeah he's kinda flat colour wise
queen laurel
Grimskulling it
Ghazghkull has the goff aesthetic but he looks way more colorful than the guy
queen laurel
Yeah he's kinda flat colour wise
going pure black and white is blegh
like goffs do primarily use black and white but they usually have specks of red and other colors to break up the monotony of their scheme
celest dome
Ghazghkull has the goff aesthetic but he looks way more colorful than the guy
The res teeth make it pop more
queen laurel
The res teeth make it pop more
it's a unspoken goff thing
pure black and white is gonna be boring add some more color on that zog
outer wave
Maybe there's another thing here too
queen laurel
hell this is their icon
queen laurel
it has the black and white and red
Well more greenish looking yeah but
You get the point
queen laurel
His armor, for a marauding war boss, is VERY clean
that too
outer wave
Okay, I do see a speckle of blood on the left shoulder, but it's not a lot
arctic talon
Valrak leaks so you don’t need to watch his video
Summary of the alleged rumours above;
Warhammer 40,000 - Black Templars
- heard the army is getting a new Chaplain adjacent HQ
Kill Team
- has heard that a Kill Team is coming that's Necron-themed (possibly terrain?)
tough haven
They actually just straight up turned him into a goff
Bro keeps swapping clans
tough haven
Ah mb
tough haven
Ok I was getting the two mixed
arctic talon
GW did not want to call the Orks Klans for uh
tough haven
Some Ork fan I am
tough haven
Obvious ones
Is the situation in RT where you can theoretically have a space marine working with several xenos as a part of the retinue (unhappily), common within other dynasties? And does it only apply to a retinue or could a rogue trader force those two forces to work together in other areas?
I know theoretically it’s possible
But I couldn’t imagine it would work out in anything larger than a retinue
arctic talon
Is the situation in RT where you can theoretically have a space marine working w...
Not the most uncommon thing but not super common
Forcing the two forces to work together on a larger scale is unlikely, stopping them from killing each other sure. But as an actual functional military force prolly not
Unless the rogue trader is well respected
tough haven
But I’m small scale it’s plausible?
arctic talon
Yes
tough haven
Im just trying to mush together my party’s preferred characters into a way that works, so far I have a space marine scout, a tech ganger/back alley doc, and a Ork and a Aeldari/tau (they haven’t decided yet) they are not making it easy for me
tough haven
Yeah that will work
Idk how lol, my best idea is that they’re sent by a RT to help defend some planets, with the xenos as sanctioned mercenaries (idk how tau would factor into that though)
humble shoal
Idk how lol, my best idea is that they’re sent by a RT to help defend some plane...
Pull the ubersreik suspension bridge
"Fuck, nids"
astral burrow
The bolter in this game
Is it a smaller, less perfect version of the space marine bolters?
shadow plover
wouldn't say less perfect, just a smaller calibre and meant for human sized hands
dapper gyro
nope, both are .75
astral burrow
The bolters Space Marines use are .75 cal, while we're using .50
Full auto 50.cal is still crazy
outer wave
nope, both are .75
Wait really? I thought humans used a smaller calibur variant of the bolter
astral burrow
nope, both are .75
It does look like a smaller gun tho
outer wave
Full auto 50.cal is still crazy
Yeah, you can see even with the smaller version, the bolters are still massive and clumsy to use
dapper gyro
Wait really? I thought humans used a smaller calibur variant of the bolter
As said many times before, the bore size is not the only indication of size.
dapper gyro
It does look like a smaller gun tho
Yes, hence your gun hold 15 instead of 20 rounds.
outer wave
Do explain if you dont mind explaining for the umpteenth time
Wait nvm that makes sense
outer wave
Right right
But one is meant for pistols and the other is for general purpose machine guns
dapper gyro
What do you mean general purpose, it is the heavy machine gun...
astral burrow
So reddit says Locke bolter is the most common and oldest human adapted boltgun
It is made specifically for normal humans to use?
I doubt adepta sororitas can handle space marine weaponry either
tough haven
Pull the ubersreik suspension bridge
Yeah but the antagonists aren’t nids, depending on party choice it will either be GSC, Orks, or Necrons (with the non main antagonists still on stage)
humble shoal
Yeah but the antagonists aren’t nids, depending on party choice it will either b...
Was just giving an example
shadow plover
if you want to search for lore info about 40k you ought to use lexicanum instead of reddit, reddit will be filled with people saying things as facts without knowing if it's true or not
outer wave
What do you mean general purpose, it is the heavy machine gun...
Ah my bad my bad, GPMGs use standardized rifle ammo versus .50 BMG
astral burrow
if you want to search for lore info about 40k you ought to use lexicanum instead...
Lexicanum says very little about specific bolter variants
tough haven
I figured ork motivation is simple, wants to get some loot and into a good scrap, and these gits are just the vehicle for it
humble shoal
They end up forced to be on a ship
astral burrow
It just says Locke spearhead is an old adeptus arbites bolter pattern
humble shoal
They now have to deal with each other
astral burrow
So I guess it is made for normal human usage
tough haven
I figured ork motivation is simple, wants to get some loot and into a good scrap...
Could be a freeboota or a blood axe, Aeldari are equally simple, path of the outcast
shadow plover
Lexicanum says very little about specific bolter variants
tough haven
Could be a freeboota or a blood axe, Aeldari are equally simple, path of the out...
A lone tau is slightly harder to do, maybe a offering for the start of a diplomatic effort?
astral burrow
Yeah I checked the boltgun page
There isn't much about the specific pattern in darktide
tough haven
A lone tau is slightly harder to do, maybe a offering for the start of a diploma...
I can’t think of the word I want for this
dapper gyro
Lol, Reddit says stupid shit like bolter is like an auto grenade launcher, or sometimes even automatic RPG... and they get hundred of upvote, then people take it as fact.
In 90% of the lore, bolter is strong, but never even close to grenade launcher strong.
storm jungle
Lexicanum says very little about specific bolter variants
Because there isnt anything to talk about with said variants
astral burrow
If it is an adeptus arbites weapon tho it must be made specifically for normal human usage unless arbites are very augmented
outer wave
Ive always been confused about the bolter: on one hand, I kept hearing that the bolter was a shotgun RPG thing, the other just a singular bullet thing with explosives
arctic talon
Arbites are normal humans yes
arctic talon
Ive always been confused about the bolter: on one hand, I kept hearing that the ...
The shotgun rpg thing is stupid
I have no clue where it even originated from
astral burrow
So the gun we have in game makes sense
arctic talon
It works like a conventional gun
But it has gyroget projectiles that are big and blow up
dapper gyro
Anyhow, the Locke Boltgun is just a smaller bolter using shorter rounds.
arctic talon
But not blow up to the point of being good at dealing with actual vehicles and solid cover
Like you could blow apart cover with a bolter if you wanted
But it’s not very efficient lol
dapper gyro
Scaling the mag from 20 to 15 rounds is 25% smaller.
astral burrow
How can this sister of battle be so pretty but so fucking annoying oh my god
astral burrow
But not blow up to the point of being good at dealing with actual vehicles and s...
What exactly is it meant to counter then?
What did they make it to fight against?
astral burrow
Bruh
arctic talon
It blows a human apart in one shot
astral burrow
Lasguns are already perfect
dapper gyro
People love to use ".75Cal" because it feels bigger than it is... but it is the 20mm rounds...
astral burrow
For humans
arctic talon
Nah
Lasguns are like whatever
Bolters are a terror weapon
Marines are terror/shock troops
They are meant to scare the shit out of other humans
astral burrow
It shoots super heated beams with over 50 in one tiny magazine
arctic talon
Again, terror weapon
astral burrow
It is Awesome
astral burrow
Again, terror weapon
Chainsword already does that
dapper gyro
Marines carry like 150 rounds on their load out or less, lol.
arctic talon
Chainsword already does that
That is a melee yes
Marines are shock troops
They’re not long term combatants
They don’t get engaged for extended periods of time
astral burrow
It is okay for marines big man big gun
arctic talon
That ruins the point
astral burrow
Are marines also made to fight normal humans
dapper gyro
Yes
arctic talon
I mean for the great crusade yeah
astral burrow
If so thats overkill
arctic talon
Lol
astral burrow
That's so overkill
dapper gyro
They are specifically made to destroy human.
astral burrow
Heretics?
shadow plover
it's pretty much their whole stich
astral burrow
So, heretics
arctic talon
Got marines dumped on them + the imperial army
astral burrow
Is this still all they do?
shadow plover
'heretics' weren't a thing when they were created
astral burrow
Don't they fight xenos and shit
arctic talon
Is this still all they do?
No, now marines serve as elite shock troops
dapper gyro
Killing xeno is just something that also fit their niche.
arctic talon
Now granted killing xenos also fits their niche
astral burrow
No, now marines serve as elite shock troops
Phew
arctic talon
Because most xenos die like humans
astral burrow
It is literally halo spartans
arctic talon
Lol
dapper gyro
But it was not the intention.
astral burrow
Made giant men to fight insurrectionists
arctic talon
Marines are also good
astral burrow
Alien invasion a day later
arctic talon
At killing like the actual horrifying things lol
The great crusade explicitly killed more humans then xenos
Which is fucking hilarious
dapper gyro
Now granted killing xenos also fits their niche
Brother, please disconnect from my brain.
astral burrow
They are pretty scary