40k-lore-chat

[tough haven]

In a RPG

TTRPG, not RT

Yet

[astral burrow]

Ah the tabletop one

[tough haven]

Please Owlcat give me the Ork freeboota dlc

And my life is yours!

[median star]

their was an inquisitor whos entire retinue was just kroots once

[astral burrow]

The fuck

[raven stone]

Radical Inquisitors

Yep

[arctic talon]

It was like

50 something kroot

LOL

[median star]

my minions

[astral burrow]

The game has a tech priest, a space wolf and a beautiful navigator

I am happy

If you don't bring someone to missions, do u not get their companion story?

[median star]

no

[arctic talon]

bring them to missions they want to be there on

[astral burrow]

Can I just just not bring kibellah to missions?

[arctic talon]

Otherwise its fine

yeah

[astral burrow]

Oh sick

[tough haven]

You’ll get it, but you have to bring them to quest missions for them

[arctic talon]

you can not bring kibellah aside from the ones where she needs to be there

[astral burrow]

I thought I would miss out on some companion stuff if I didn't bring them

[arctic talon]

Well

there is one place you will

[astral burrow]

For sure

[arctic talon]

but its fine

[astral burrow]

I will do that

[median star]

their is a mod w it that lets them be able to talk and comment on shit w out actually being there tho idk the name

[tough haven]

I do all the companion stuff even though I don’t like most of them

[tough haven]

Toybox

[arctic talon]

||comorragh||

is like the one place

lol

[tough haven]

It’s a setting

[astral burrow]

I WILL do all of them

[arctic talon]

you cannot do all of them

[astral burrow]

Cassia's chats with kibellah are fun sometimes

But argenta and iridia

[arctic talon]

due to a funny incident later

[astral burrow]

God they don't shut up

[astral burrow]

Do I miss out on like, 1?

2?

[arctic talon]

no

[median star]

i had argenta blow idira head smooth off

[astral burrow]

YOU CAN DO THAT?!

Damn I wanna try

[arctic talon]

you can only bring 5 people with you max

into the funny zone

so the full party of 6

[tough haven]

I’m considering doing an RT one since in the Gilead system Rogue Trader Jakal Varonius has taken control of defense in the sector

[arctic talon]

anyone not with y ou won't have anything to deal with the funny zone

[median star]

you can also just hand her over to heinrix and hell send her to become a sanctioned psyker

[arctic talon]

no he won't

he absolutely just kills her lol

[astral burrow]

And that's where all of these companion stories end?

[tough haven]

She will never be seen again

[arctic talon]

no

[median star]

well he says he will atleast

[tough haven]

They just have unique stories there

[astral burrow]

I wanna do all the companion stories...

[tough haven]

Multiple playthrough

[astral burrow]

Think my team will be the space wolf, the tech priest, cassia, argenta, and whoever the fuck I feel like

[tough haven]

You still can, they just play out differently based on who you bring to act 3

[median star]

no abelard yea youre cooked

[astral burrow]

Fuck him

[median star]

missing best dialogues in the game

[tough haven]

My current run is no Abelard

[arctic talon]

I love Abelard

[tough haven]

Cause I need to play with the characters I haven’t yet

[astral burrow]

More like most annoying

[arctic talon]

he hates the poor people

but thats fine

[astral burrow]

I can talk for myself thank you very much annoying man

[astral burrow]

And I will kill him for it

[tough haven]

But I have Abelards dialogues enabled on toybox so I can always hear his voice in my head

[astral burrow]

I will kill Abelard the first chance I get

[raven stone]

Yea in this case you can certainly use "don't want to accidentally cause a Rogue Trader dynasty trade war" as an excuse to explain why people don't shoot xenos on sight even if they see and know one.

Nevermind offending one RT, if you are employed by one for security and you cause a diplomatic incident, you made TWO RTs into your enemies...

[median star]

abelard put down a funky beat while we beat this hopless ganger to fucking death

[tough haven]

Same

[astral burrow]

In fact might bring him in case he can die somewhere

[young pecan]

He hates the poor people until you remind him that they do in fact have souls too

[astral burrow]

Anywhere in game where I can get Abelard killed?

[arctic talon]

then he just dislikes poor people

rather then go the whole

[tough haven]

Easily

[astral burrow]

I reminded him that, he didn't give a shit

[arctic talon]

Poor aren't human™️

lol

[tough haven]

Sacrifice him to the pit

[astral burrow]

What pit

the pit?

[tough haven]

The pit

[astral burrow]

Tell me the planet so I can know to bring him there

[tough haven]

I don’t remember the planet name

But there’s a bottomless pit there

[astral burrow]

Does anyone know?

[tough haven]

You can sacrifice a party member

You get the option to save them later but you can just choose not to

You even get a special ending slide for it!

[arctic talon]

its the pit

[astral burrow]

Nice, definitely doing that

[arctic talon]

I forgot

anyways

you can't always sacrifice someone iirc

you need to pass some checks

[astral burrow]

But what planet, if I didn't bring Abelard, can I leave, take him, and come back?

[arctic talon]

also you're definetly feeding something to a Chaos God or daemon

I forgor

its ap lanet

in act 2

[median star]

im gonna have to kill cassia for this in my next run through for this slight

[astral burrow]

That doesn't narrow it down at all

[arctic talon]

[tough haven]

The only issue is, Varonius doesn’t want people to know he works with xenos, or his tenuous alliance with the Aeldari, so I don’t think he’d be able to give you proof you work for him, and he’s probably deny involvement

[astral burrow]

Now hold on

[young pecan]

Just look for it bro you only have 809 planets to look through bro

[astral burrow]

We can sort this out

[astral burrow]

[tough haven]

I think a framework is actually called “the deniables”

[astral burrow]

Oh commorragh

Sick

He is coming

I have some mods in rt, but also the "unlock achievements despite mods" mod

Does that mod actually work

[tough haven]

It’s near footfall I think, believe me, you’ll know when you see it

[astral burrow]

But I would have to know before I see it so I have Abelard with me

[tough haven]

You can just get back in the ship and swap party if you see the pit

[arctic talon]

Comorragh is funny

my favorite funny zone

[tough haven]

Very funny

[astral burrow]

Sick

Fun

[median star]

i hated the beginning of it

[astral burrow]

I can go back at that point right?

U sure?

[tough haven]

I actually liked it

[tough haven]

Yeah just don’t interact with the pit

[astral burrow]

I kinda wanna start a new run and be dogmatic but I am saving that for an arbite zealot run

[median star]

mainly cause i was so debuffed i literally could not use my gun anymore

[tough haven]

Stimms baby

[astral burrow]

Guy got a headache

[tough haven]

Fixes all that shit up

[astral burrow]

Wrong game bruh

[tough haven]

No there’s actually an achievement for it

Use enough stimms to ignore your injuries at the start of act 3

[astral burrow]

I have like 25 medic bags and I still haven't used any

I just keep the injuries

[arctic talon]

POWER THROUGH THE PAIN

[tough haven]

This will kill you in Commoragh

[median star]

i could not for the life of me get that achievement to kill the demon engine thing w the plasma coils you know what im talking abt

[astral burrow]

Idira had head trauma for like half of rykad minoris

[astral burrow]

And I didn't even know

[astral burrow]

That's why I am saving Ike 30, in case I really need them

[tough haven]

@astral burrow be aware, the pit doesn’t tell you who your sacrificing, it’s cryptic

[median star]

i gave her permanent head trauma

[astral burrow]

I can tell dw

I am not silly

[tough haven]

Spoiler ||You lose everything in commoragh||

[astral burrow]

Max hass moment

[astral burrow]

I ain't clicking that

[arctic talon]

I love comorroagh

[astral burrow]

Commoroagh sounds like there are orks there

[tough haven]

Good

[arctic talon]

It’s the drukhari’s funny city

[tough haven]

Will keep you genuine

[median star]

i do like after commorqg abelard like boss im getting to fucking old for this shit can i just retire after we figure all this dumb shit out

[arctic talon]

All the funny sub realms

[tough haven]

There’s all kinds of meat there

[arctic talon]

Plenty of slaves

[tough haven]

It’s the dark eldar dimension

[astral burrow]

As long as cassia is alive idc who dies

[raven stone]

@astral burrow about The Pit, note the following...

(1) If you choose to do a search for someone after sacrificing them, you can find said someone again, empowered with a bonus. But you cannot use the pit twice (I usually use it to empower Cassia even more)

(2) IIRC, The Space Wolf and Marazhai cannot be killed by the pit at all.

[tough haven]

Fun fact, cassia is illegal there as psykers make the dimension go fucky wucky

[astral burrow]

I won't be in the pit for a whiiiile

[astral burrow]

Can't take her there?

She isn't a psyker tho

[tough haven]

You can

It’ll just be fun

[astral burrow]

Then I am taking her

Anyone who has trouble will die

[raven stone]

Well technically so is Idira, if we are talking about Commorragh

[tough haven]

Psykers are very neat there

[astral burrow]

Iconoclastness goes out the window if they mess with cassia

[tough haven]

Well yeah but he didn’t mention her

[arctic talon]

Cassia isn’t a Psyker

[astral burrow]

[arctic talon]

It’s the drukhari

[tough haven]

Psychic

[arctic talon]

[astral burrow]

She still has warp shit

[arctic talon]

No mercy

Kill them

[astral burrow]

Idk who they are

I let the thieves in my lower decks go

They made sense

Am I gonna regret that

[storm jungle]

Dark Eldar

read the lore bruh

[arctic talon]

Dark eldar, absurdly evil

[median star]

also no clue if it was on meta but this is what i had kibellah running for end game and it worked rlly well

[astral burrow]

Osym is in 35 days bruh leave me alone I am busy

[arctic talon]

She can’t explode into a torment nexus

[raven stone]

Dark Eldar.

They look at our Nazis and Pol Pots and think "amateurs"

[tough haven]

Nah actually don’t

[storm jungle]

Yet you participate in 40k chat and act confused, you will be destroyed by my hand

[raven stone]

That is all that needs be said

[tough haven]

It’ll explain it

[astral burrow]

Do it

[astral burrow]

Fun I like killing evil people

[tough haven]

Enough to be lore accurate to his character

[tough haven]

Huh?

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-emperor-palpatine-star-wars-the-bad-batch-revealing-my-face-staring-gif-27000583

[tough haven]

What are you talking about?

[median star]

also my goat

[astral burrow]

That's a stupid looking boltgun

Holy shit

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/raiden-mgs-metal-gear-metal-gear-solid-mgs2-gif-12937645449220689070

[median star]

the discombobulater

[tough haven]

I’ve never seen that

[astral burrow]

Why is the grip like that

[raven stone]

It's a Heavy Bolter I think

[storm jungle]

Its a MG bolter

[median star]

you get it from the little like story quicktime event thing from a helbrute

have to pick right choices etc

[astral burrow]

So ugly

[median star]

also be like tier 1 or 2 heretical

[storm jungle]

No

[astral burrow]

So tempted to give cassia bolter proficiency

And have her do diplomacy

[median star]

krait is just a professional bad opinion haver man idk

[astral burrow]

That's the ugliest gun I have ever seen I am serious

[tough haven]

@raven stone idk if I can do the RT route, as this rt would probably deny xenos involvement officially

[tough haven]

She doesn’t even need guns

She’s so busted

[raven stone]

Just focus on buying ALL the Navigator talents first

[median star]

also its shame you only get this right before finall boss

[astral burrow]

I wonder how cassia acts if I treat her like shit at the start

[astral burrow]

I am too attached to try

[astral burrow]

Oh yeah that's going on the tech priest

[median star]

what i had on pasqal had 60pen and 33-49 dmg

so 3+ attks every round

i think im going to finally play through phantom liberty 2 years late and do a melee only run

maybe try out the wrist rocket thing even tho iv been told its mid

[astral burrow]

Do NOT hurt songbird I WILL kill you

[median star]

she will suffer horrible fates yet to be seen

[astral burrow]

Yeah you can do that

[tough haven]

Unless there’s something I’m missing

[astral burrow]

Please dont

[young pecan]

I thought people like our rejects wouldn't have any knowledge on what a daemonhost is

Is that in a little primer before we're sent out to die or something?

[median star]

we love indentured servitude

[storm jungle]

We are a part of the Inquisition

Ordo Hereticus too lol

[median star]

put bombs in their necks idk

[tough haven]

Yeah but that would imply his involvement

[young pecan]

Tbf we're being forcefully enlisted by the Inquisition, not formally trained and recruited unless I'm missing something

[storm jungle]

We very much are formally trained

[tough haven]

He does not want people knowing he’s openly involved with xenos

[storm jungle]

both by Dukane's forces and other operatives aboard the ship

and like-

[tough haven]

Later on perhaps

[storm jungle]

why do people think most of the Reject character-cast is untrained?

literally only the Zealots are homeless crackheads lol

[tough haven]

Not right after you get pulled off the prison ship

[astral burrow]

Veteran is literally a VETERAN

[storm jungle]

Yeah the issue is they all got experience in fighting to some degree

[tough haven]

Not like specially trained by the inquisition though

[median star]

i mean hows anyone going to know are you branding them or something

[storm jungle]

they arent fresh off the boat idiots

[astral burrow]

They are trained idiots

[astral burrow]

I am insulted

[tough haven]

My point is, if you see a group of xenos, even with collars, you’re probably just gonna shoot them

[young pecan]

Trained with military experience is different from "this is a daemonhost, this is definitely your first time ever even hearing about one"

Of course they're trained

I'm not saying they're idiots who can't even hold a gun

[storm jungle]

Ordo Hereticus.

[astral burrow]

It is similar

[tough haven]

I don’t think they’re given special briefings on them

[storm jungle]

Again we are in the middle of an active chaos invasion

[astral burrow]

Are we in a warp storm?

[tough haven]

Beyond the basic “this is bad, don’t do x, y and z”

[storm jungle]

and we are a proper part of the Warband at this point

[young pecan]

It's never showed anywhere that they're given this knowledge

[tough haven]

They don’t give them a master class on it

[median star]

think so

[storm jungle]

They dont really need to though.

This isnt some huge secret

[tough haven]

I assume it’s done in transit or whatever

[storm jungle]

^

[tough haven]

When they are briefed on the mission

[storm jungle]

Also offscreen

a lot of mission dialogue does this stuff

like

mfers are goign "How are we not dead from getting in contact with poxwalkers"

[tough haven]

In darktide? No. Beyond the great rift but that’s galaxy wide

[storm jungle]

and most of the dialogue speaks of decontamination/purifying protocols when you are midway through an operation

[young pecan]

Maybe Cadia vet knows what it would sound like but a voiceline like that is what prompted me to think about it

"I know a daemonhost when I hear one"

[storm jungle]

Well yeah hes cadian

also a veteran

he's seen shit

[tough haven]

Cadia would 100% know

[young pecan]

That's the only one I would imagine having seen it prior

[tough haven]

They’ve been constantly assaulted

[storm jungle]

We are a part of the Inquisition, its very much again not that weird for people to know what a daemonhost is.

[tough haven]

Also daemons are talked about a little in holy texts in a general sense

[storm jungle]

^

[tough haven]

Not as like “yeah these exist”

But like enough where if you saw one

[young pecan]

True, but it's stated in lore that almost any resident of the Imperium doesn't know DHs exist

[tough haven]

You’d be like “oh it’s the thing from the myths”

[storm jungle]

Any resident

again

we are a part

[tough haven]

They don’t know they’re real

[storm jungle]

of the Ordo Hereticus

We would be told/trained on what they are

[young pecan]

Oh my goop I'm not arguing it anymore

[storm jungle]

this isnt that deep

[young pecan]

If the training happens offscreen cool

I'm making conversation now

[tough haven]

They’ve heard of them probably, just might think them as just stories

[storm jungle]

Yeah because they arent gonna show us what they all do 24/7 lol

[tough haven]

Show me the Morningstar commissary

I wanna see the food court

[young pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1351631649372246066/Warhammer40000_Darktide2025-03-1818-45-39-Trim-ezgif.com-optimize_online-video-cutter.com.gif

[young pecan]

This but unironically

[astral burrow]

I wish other classes also had planet specific voice options

[storm jungle]

Too much work.

This game has over 100,000+ voicelines as per a dev blog lol

actually it might be even more

i cant remember, it was a ridiculous number

[outer wave]

Thought it was like 80K voice lines and above

[young pecan]

I wonder if that counts every line of text from "conversation" types or if the conversations count as one

[storm jungle]

Probably does

[young pecan]

I'm assuming it counts every line

[outer wave]

Me when I hear "Ohhh... Dreg Shotgunner." 80k times

[storm jungle]

Considering the fact that theres still interactions people have not heard in this game after 3 years I dunno

[tough haven]

Heard this in his voice

[young pecan]

I heard a new conversation yesterday but I forgor which one

[tough haven]

How did you do that

[storm jungle]

My point exactly

[astral burrow]

Veteran gets one smh

[outer wave]

I try to type out how certain characters say a phrase

Its fun

[young pecan]

I hate the loose cannon line where they're just a dick to someone making a call-out

Antagonizes two team members because the other one stands up for the one for no reason

Even though they spam call-outs 24/7 unprompted

[storm jungle]

Its peak.

its the same reason I love the Bully ogryn

an ogryn whos just an asshole is great

[queen laurel]

Yeah it actually gives it another type of character besides the overly friendly giants

and reminds you of old world ogres

[young pecan]

I don't tag an enemy all match and my character's screeching the government name of every special and elite in a mile radius

Then someone else does it once

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-spiderverse-dragon-ball-gif-16710249899645766833

I do like that it gives the rejects something other than a strange amount of companionship though, like this is a trying time and your current condition blows, of course some are gonna be a bit frustrated and take it out on others

[raven stone]

It is a somewhat realistic depiction of stress getting the better of people

[storm jungle]

To add to that, Loose also one time mentions he had a dream where all his teeth fell out and starting laughing at him.

[raven stone]

oof

Double oof if it is a Cadian

[queen laurel]

And to be fair under all of that bravado and you know thrill seeking he's still a relatively good person

[median star]

i had a dream like that once but i freaked out ran to the bathroom and the inside of my mouth was like a geode then i really started freaking out then woke up

[outer wave]

I sometimes more attribute the Bully to being a large edgy kid: tough exterior, is tough, is an ass, but also is a bit of a softie to some of the members

[queen laurel]

Yeah but The thing is he can back up all of that talk

this guy's from a species that can dent tanks

with a punch

[astral burrow]

I love judge

[misty vector]

Bully ogryn def has like fear of attachment, poor thang

[outer wave]

Oh absolutely he could, but still is a bit of a softie in unexpected moments, like with reviving psyker for example (not sure if generic or if for a specific one)

[queen laurel]

yeah like it's good that while he's a bit of a asshole

He still has some nice bits

[outer wave]

Mhm I think that makes him really fleshed out

Probably my favorite Ogryn voice ngl

[burnt kraken]

is the only good ending for 40k the elimination of all life

could that remove the warp in a sense, since belief is what gives chaos gods strength

[misty vector]

Only good ending will be the great green from ghazkull

[languid meadow]

[LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]

[burnt kraken]

xD

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/wh40k-necron-war-cry-legenwing-emperor-tts-gif-20494620

Bring forth the infinite empire

[outer wave]

Imo, yes

[burnt kraken]

so are the pharoh robots right?

the necrons

they don't classify as living

[celest dome]

They're not living or biological

But I'm not sure if calling them robot would be accurate

[languid meadow]

Robot would technically mean they couldn't think for themselves which only applies to 90% of their species

[winter pine]

yeah it's probably appropriate for the 90%+ of Necrons that are mindless soldiers and worker drones

[languid meadow]

but the other 10% would be... idk simulacrums? at least their bodies

since their minds aren't artificial in nature

[winter pine]

I forget which book but I think there was a Necron lord who suspected some generic soldiers still had some pre-biofurnace memories, so maybe not a totally right label

[tough haven]

Soulless shells is how I’d refer to them

Empty vessels

[outer wave]

They're similar to Tsons in the sense that both are formerly living beings turned into automatous slaves for someone to use, so automations could also be accurate to describe them

[arctic talon]

They explicitly do, the mind is just extremely suppressed

It’s why warriors can become flayed ones or destroyers

The disphorek kicks in despite the suppression of their memory engrams

[raven stone]

Ok enough Wild Rift heresy.
Time to do some Darktide grind FOR THE EMPEROR

[paper haven]

A selfie with a filter.

[near wasp]

Don't think about the fact that you can't eat sleep or breath and you'll be fine (probably not)

[storm jungle]

[paper haven]

Food and sleep are for the faithless. You know who went to sleep once?
Horus.
You think about that.

[astral burrow]

Got it, so ai

[astral burrow]

Hi dilara

[opaque coyote]

...imagine a Ogryn attempting to play Among Us

[astral burrow]

Would win

[opaque coyote]

If I remember correctly, it's partially due to their bodies being uh

Not up to par to handle their brain

[storm jungle]

Ye

[storm jungle]

No

[opaque coyote]

Well the copy of their brain but still

[arctic talon]

Yeah sorta

Though

Dysphorek is an unintended side effect

Of bio transference

[astral burrow]

Fym ye

Say hi back

[opaque coyote]

It's kinda funny if you think about it.

The average Necron Lord is basically a gaming PC

While a random Necron Warrior is basically an old Chromebook your school gave you

[astral burrow]

Have 2 cars

[opaque coyote]

Two brain cells

Rubbing against one another

[astral burrow]

They frens

[misty vector]

the magnetic cats

[astral burrow]

Have 3 cars

[paper haven]

I mean, probably, but not in the way ai tends to be used

Lots of cats suddenly.

Not mad, just noticing

[opaque coyote]

"Perfect organism. Their structural perfection only matched by their lack of brain cells. I admire it's purity."

[opaque coyote]

I mean I don't really care as long as it's not used as like

"LOOK I DREW/WROTE THIS"

Like if you use it for a slightly cool pfp

Fine

[paper haven]

Yeah. I probably could draw something similar but I just don't have the energy these days

[chrome tendon]

I wonder if one day we'll know where the Tyranids are coming from and who/what is the one that controls them. I remember seeing that Tyranid swarm is bigger than our galaxy, spooky

[outer wave]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/1ko36s7/warhammer_40000_speed_freeks_prepares_for_full/ @queen laurel Oh this'll be nice

[nocturne crest]

So odd question, but can the imperial navy salvage shipwrecks if they've crashed onto a planet?

[storm jungle]

If its not completely vaporised it will be salvaged.

Its like shipwrecking/salvaging IRL

[plush mason]

there was a world that had a massive orbital wreckage around it and the locals earned their living by salvaging any wreck that hit the ground

[dapper gyro]

If it is not decommissioned, which is almost never in 40k, then there is tech to salvage.

[plush mason]

yup

[dapper gyro]

The building materials can be recycled, they are higher grade than the usual materials on the surface.

[celest dome]

We can even see on in one of the map in Darktide

Now I don't remember which

[storm jungle]

Consignment Yard!

you can see one in the distance on the final trainyard area

[outer wave]

If we get another consignment yard mission, I hope it takes place in one of the delirect ships that are hanging up on the ceiling of that map

[late osprey]

a map in taking place in a scrapped ship would be awesome

also

is the hive we're fighting in considered normal-sized?

cuz some of the maps imply it's utterly colossal

like the maps where it feels outside but you look up and it's just all more city

like a backwards coruscant

[celest dome]

Well yes, Hives are immense

[late osprey]

thats not what i asked

[storm jungle]

Its a hive

theres no "normal" size

[celest dome]

Look up arts of Hive cities

They're immense with luddicrus ceilling heights

[storm jungle]

Yeah also Tertium reaches like way past the atmosphere which is neat

[gray umbra]

i hope oneday fatshark will let us reenact the neroth fight in space marine 1

where we just leap off the highest point of tertium

[late osprey]

right but hives themselves vary in size as far as i understand it

[outer wave]

I hope we fight on the tippy top of Tertium

[celest dome]

All of them are normal size

[storm jungle]

Yeah but again its pretty varied.

so there isnt really a "normal size" is what im getting at

Hives are just upwards reaching spire clusters more or less, it all depends really

[late osprey]

ok well let me ask instead if the Hive in DT is EXCEPTIONALLY large or not

[celest dome]

It's in the normal bounds

[gray umbra]

its as big as we need it to be

[storm jungle]

Yeah ^

its more or less about as much as you can get to a generic hive city

with its only "unique" features being the 2 tower format of its twin spires

[celest dome]

Tbh I don't really think having us explore the suspended ship would be an useful plan.
Bit having us return to the Tancred Bastion would be quite good

[astral burrow]

Phew done studying

Time to finish metro for good

[dapper gyro]

Hive is just the name for any place with extremely big super structure. Generally speaking, it means that the the majority of the planet is covered in said structure.

So if it is a hive city, the sheer size is just so big that comparing one to another doesn't really matter.

[paper haven]

Hive cities are just metropolitan sprawl taken to an insane extreme

[late osprey]

not really, many worlds seemingly have distinct hives dotting their planet surfaces

most famously would be necromunda and armageddon

terras a full on ecumenopolis afaik but it seems to be more exceptional there

[tough haven]

Really wish it had more customization

but no, its gotta push the exact designs of models

[outer wave]

Mhmmmm that would be nice

But it wouldnt give enough gameplay depth on its own sadly

It just needs more of everything

[tough haven]

Like lemme do some crazy mek work by mixing and mashing weapons and shit

vs just changing the color of my car

[outer wave]

Im sure its a GW thing

[tough haven]

Really fun concept

but once again, GW hates making money for effectively free by letting creators y'know, create.

Who cares if it slightly goes away from your exact trademarked design? Just have a little disclaimer saying that this stuff isnt representative of your products

[dapper gyro]

It depends on the size of the planet, then some other consideration. Some call the stuff hive spire, some are given different hive name, depending on the distance, even though they are connected.

It is not black and white with "normal" and not "normal".

[tough haven]

Are there systems that are known for sanctioning and hiring xenos mercenaries?

[outer wave]

Honestly a Banjo/Kazooie Nuts and Bolts styled 40k game would go hard

[nocturne crest]

Odd question, but does 40k have something like moving shield wall servitors?

[arctic talon]

Wdym by shield wall

Like a servitor with a shield mounted on it

Or a servitor with like a refractor field

For a shield mounted on a servitor yeah prolly

For a refractor shield no

[tough haven]

The shield wall is just having the servitors go first and standing behind them

[arctic talon]

Lol

Yeah

Servitors are not for tactics

[nocturne crest]

Yeah, like servitors moving metal shields while the regular guardsmen stand behind them.

[arctic talon]

They’re for a grinder

[arctic talon]

Normal guardsmen no, but I could see specific groups in regiments or inqusitorial forces doing it

Servitors are expensive as fuck

A human is way cheaper

[nocturne crest]

Like Penal legions.

[arctic talon]

Yeah you’d more often see penal legions/conscripts/rounded up religious people used as human shields

Though a breaching servitor with a physical like shield would def be used

It’s just not cheap

[tough haven]

Trying to see if there’s precedent for what I wanna do in my setting

[storm jungle]

If there isnt just make your own

or just use Calixis

[distant marsh]

Do commissars go through teaching classes for ogryn? I mean do they teach em' something anythint on how to deal with big fellas?

[storm jungle]

They teach em what they need for any situation that requires it

there isnt some ogryn course they need to take, they juse use common sense lol

[distant marsh]

Was expecting an ogryn teaching degree with emphasis on rations

[storm jungle]

no

[plush mason]

afaik Ogryn are canonically fairly easy to handle

they are basically dogs

[storm jungle]

Yeah you basically just need to know how to manipulate a person with a child mentality

lol

[plush mason]

yeah

hince the fake medals and what not

[storm jungle]

people glamorize the way ogryns get treated a lot in lore as cutesy when you are essentially just leading them with a carrot on a stick yeah

[distant marsh]

Can they accidentally kill their owner?

[storm jungle]

Yes.

they are still people lol

[distant marsh]

That's why an ogryn teaching course is needed, upgrades people, upgrades

[storm jungle]

no

anyway, get out

[plush mason]

yes, more than a few commissars/officers have gotten crushed when they pissed off their ogryn, ogryn are also massively claustrophobic and can panic in tight spaces

[distant marsh]

And then each commisar can go with different especializations

[storm jungle]

no

they got better things to do

[distant marsh]

And then prepare for ogryn graduation

[storm jungle]

like tying men to wooden posts and executing them

[distant marsh]

[tough haven]

It’s really time consuming tbh

[storm jungle]

[vagrant fox]

Sounds like something they should delegate smh

[tough haven]

Nah, you lose your reputation as a commissar if you don’t

[languid meadow]

I stole this image so here you go

[astral burrow]

Cassia isn't she is lovely

[sacred ginkgo]

She's afraid of poor people

[tough haven]

🏴‍☠️

[golden imp]

Reasonable

Poor people in warhammer eat other people

[tough haven]

Also theyre filthy

and always prattling on about "rights"

hilarious

the only rights you have are the ones the Governor decides you do

[nocturne crest]

If there was to be a sequel to rogue trader, what would anyone want in it that didn't appear in the original?

[astral burrow]

Damn y'all weren't kidding

The prison planetoid was SHORT

[late osprey]

should be "HH reader" instead tbh

[crystal forum]

people who read the full HH should have a sigil branded on their forehead so we know who to avoid

[sour hornet]

My psyker is a self-hater and despises mutants.

[dapper gyro]

Sound like some of us

[raven stone]

The real question is, is it due to Imperial propaganda or actual (self) hatred?

[sour hornet]

First one leading to the second one.

[raven stone]

oof

[sour hornet]

A psyker has two real choices when confronted with maintaining themselves in Imperial service.

Shut everyone out to a degree abd become an island — separate from both your peers and the institution you serve.

Or submerge yourself in the propaganda and the rhetoric, and become like those you serve alongside. But because you are who you are told to despise and abhor, this will lead to several potentially traumatic personality quirks; feelings of superiority and self-importance aka, "I'm not a witch I'm a Sanctioned Psyker..." all the way to feelings of self-loathing and low-self esteem.

Combine low self-esteem with fanatical belief in the system responsible for your continued existence — despite its overt hatred of your kind — and you get a wombo-combo of mental illness.

[dapper gyro]

Just say that it is the big E blessing bla bla bla...

[sour hornet]

Fucking around is literally all I did in Koronus

My first blind run

So far, I've failed cassia, argentas and abelards quests, put off executing Idira to my (massive) expense, fucked around then fucked over the winterscales because... well because, and a bunch of other dumb shit

[raven stone]

Pls send help chat.
I accidentally deprived myself of sleep.

Now I must go for roughly 11.5 hours before I can allow myself to sleep again...

(Thankfully its a Saturday...)

[median star]

redbull time

[vagrant fox]

Simply nap and then wake up

[astral burrow]

Yeah

[raven stone]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2rwd3d6m/horus-heresy-preview-celebrate-with-us/

Oohhhh shit

[storm jungle]

What is it

[queen laurel]

it's an entire event dedicated to forest heresy showing releases and lore and stuff

[storm jungle]

[shadow plover]

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-get-you-uwu-pusheen-gif-27530318

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-me-when-i-get-you-mario-me-when-i-get-you-mario-me-when-i-get-you-washing-machine-washing-machine-mario-gif-6548056538712528138

[shadow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/andy-jerma-andy-jerma-anguished-andy-anguish-gif-26407200

[vagrant fox]

craftworlders are kind of amoguspilled

[storm jungle]

DoW3

Trash.

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-sassy-girl-sunglasses-gif-17486567

"Traaaaash" 💅

[astral burrow]

That's not what she said

[paper haven]

So what are we angry about today?

[vagrant fox]

Dunno yet, lets see what inane questions on r/40klore can be answered by a 3 second google search

[arctic talon]

You

[tough haven]

How much do the tau know about races like the Aeldari and necrons?

[crystal forum]

they tried invading a necron world

[paper haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/746477735332806686/1347660462191542442/ScreenRecording_03-07-2025_14-57-40_1.mov?ex=682993dc&is=6828425c&hm=65df9e5353a78e353452cbb4167febe46353b727b2e1ad8d4ff3bf12f6777884&

[tough haven]

Yeah but do we have any accounts of it on like lexicanum or anything?

I want to see their reactions to just how abysmally outmatched they were

And for eldar I’d imagine all their tech is practically arcane to them

[arctic talon]

Craftworld Eldar are even more mysterious to the Tau then humanity, but they at least talk more often even if its the Eldar usually being the Eldar, most Eldar tech is literally incomprehensible or unusable

Necrons they know some about, their tech is of interest to several Tau Septs and the Tau want it

Its why Vior'la launched such a huge counter offensive against the necrons

they wanted gauss weaponry

[tough haven]

Where is that found?

[arctic talon]

it was in one of the crusade rulebooks in 9e or 8e

I forgor

or psychic awakening

its in something supplemental

its rulebook lore

[tough haven]

Also what instances of this have there been

[queen laurel]

do eldar mostly tolerate tau or is it a case of it depends on the craft world

[arctic talon]

Depends craftworld to craftworld

Tau are on Beil-tan's genocide list

lol

[tough haven]

If I was an eldar I’d smite those uppity mfs

[tough haven]

Like I have existed 10x the length of your entire species

[arctic talon]

Relevant artwork to the Vior'la incident

[queen laurel]

yeah but everyone is on Beil-tan's genocide list

[tough haven]

Don’t preach to me about your “Greater Good”

[arctic talon]

Rulebook lore mostly

codex stuff

[tough haven]

I assume eldar see tau as this hilariously naive race

[arctic talon]

Killteam lore(ig) lol

yes

the Eldar see the Tau as absurdly naive, unprepared

but they see them as the next big thing as well

[tough haven]

Ah cool, so I’ll never read it

[arctic talon]

the eldar know that humanity

are going to implode

and then the Tau will be the next big race

[tough haven]

Pssh, the Emperor Protects

We’ll be fine

[queen laurel]

well to be fair they are a pretty progressive society and diplomatic society even if they do just put you down at the lowest part of their civilization

[arctic talon]

being the "next big thing"

does not mean it is going to be good

LOL

[tough haven]

Also if anyone is going to be the next big thing it’s gonna be orks

[queen laurel]

yeah if they become the next big thing chaos is gonna focus on them more

[queen laurel]

they're never gonna be one

They are too brutal and always kill each other when they are too bored

[tough haven]

Wym they already are

They’re practically fucking everywhere

And nothing can keep them down

They are thriving

[arctic talon]

Orks to the eldar have already fallen

as a society lol

though they're having a great time

according to some eldar philosphers

[tough haven]

Sure not by “civilized” races’ standards, but they have been practically unstoppable as a whole

[arctic talon]

tldr the Craftworlds see the Orks almost similar to how they see the Drukhari

[queen laurel]

absolutely horrendous but successful?

[tough haven]

I love how even orks hate drukhari

[arctic talon]

their society has collapsed but who gives a shit, it wasn't a big deal in the first place for them

[tough haven]

Like “by zog I love a good fight and sure it’s proper funny when some git has ‘is head chopped off, but these gits take it too far!”

[arctic talon]

The Orks have fallen from the Krork

they've regressed

lol

[tough haven]

Yeah but they’re still very much a problem

They’re probably not ever going away

Except if nids consume all life or something

[tough haven]

I love how GW has gone absolutely fucking nowhere with the whole “Ghaz is gonna unify the orks, and that’s horrifying” arc

Like that’s interesting and gives them relevance on a galactic scale

But it’s never going anywhere

Speaking of, when’s that grotsnik book coming out

[arctic talon]

Orks already have relevance on a galactic scale with major WAAAAAAAGHS

centering an entire faction around one character is bad

and its good GW hasn't done that

Over centralization of any faction around one character is bad and I hate it

[tough haven]

They don’t necessarily have to do that

[arctic talon]

Ghaz unifying all the Orks is centralizing everything around Ghaz

[tough haven]

Like include all his war bosses and all the minor groups within orks

[arctic talon]

Ghaz is trying to do that still

[tough haven]

Well “centralize” as best they can

[arctic talon]

that is still centralizing around Ghaz

is my point

Ghaz becomes the defacto most important Ork

always

forever

in lore

[queen laurel]

yeah thing is with how stupid and belligerent some orks are

[tough haven]

True

[arctic talon]

There's other major warbosses that are super relevent in lore

without minis

[queen laurel]

His plan is gonna almost always fall on the dirt

[arctic talon]

since like

the 90s

don't ask, I don't know either lol

[tough haven]

And it’s a crying shame

[queen laurel]

badrukk

snikrot

[arctic talon]

Snikrot and badrukk have minis

[queen laurel]

wortsnagga

[tough haven]

There’s the mekboss but he got killed off

[arctic talon]

the overfiend of octarius was

huge

until you know

[queen laurel]

tyranids

[arctic talon]

the swarmlord fucking chopped his head off and ate him

[queen laurel]

Apparently on their first match he overpowered the swarm lord

[arctic talon]

Yeah he did

[tough haven]

There’s Ufthak

But he’s kinda Mary sue ish

[queen laurel]

he has a mini

[plush mason]

who isnt?

[arctic talon]

here was the Arch-Maniac of Calverna

[tough haven]

Just as a replacement

[arctic talon]

though he's under ghazkulls banner now

[tough haven]

He’s not like actually usable in play

[arctic talon]

well

it is

he has rules lol

[tough haven]

Unless they gave him actually rules again

[queen laurel]

also what did you expect this is like a basic quality of warhammer characters

[arctic talon]

he literally has rules

[queen laurel]

Legends or normal rules

[arctic talon]

Legends are normal rules

[queen laurel]

i see

[arctic talon]

legends is literally valid for everything but tournaments

[tough haven]

Oh last I checked he was just a option to replace the new big mek model for flair

[queen laurel]

good shit

[arctic talon]

nah

he got rules

whats the speed freekz

warboss

He's been in lore since like 3e

[tough haven]

I mean like he had not one character flaw or anything

[arctic talon]

and has been like fucking everywhere

[queen laurel]

Gutsmek?

[arctic talon]

still no mini though

no not gutsmek

the dude on the bike

[queen laurel]

did he punch a hole through a titan

[tough haven]

Like Ghaz has some amount of character flaws and struggles

It’s possible to do with ork characters

[queen laurel]

Wazdakka Gutsmek

[raven stone]

Apparently though some non-tourney players still give you funny looks if you even dare to use Legends in your list…

[arctic talon]

And they should be skinned alive

If you’re not playing comp practice then legends is valid

Some players have a stick up their ass

[tough haven]

My personal favorite is Grizgutz, going back in time solely to get a second copy of his favorite gun in exchange for ruining his WAAAAGH! Is classic ork

[tough haven]

I get beat on every time I try to play a legends unit, every time

[arctic talon]

Never been an issue at me for events or at LGSs lol

But it always sucks when people are weird like that

Like of all the fucking hills to die on

[queen laurel]

Yeah like

it the only reason it's legends rules is because the mini is no longer distributed

but the rules are still valid rules

[plush mason]

sadly people can be very strange when it comes to such things

[rose thorn]

This is what talking about warhammer lore feels like lmao

[arctic talon]

r/grimdank

[plush mason]

imagine if grimdank had stayed a battletech subreddit

[queen laurel]

I say 1 less evil but that would mean battle tech would have grimdank

[celest dome]

I had not been aware that they'd started as one

[plush mason]

they hadnt

they became one during the whole "boycott GW" thing

[celest dome]

Oh right

[winter vessel]

Custodes: “oh this one’s not for eating. It’s for uh…”
Sister of Silence thought marking: you rub it on your skin and makes you live forever

[brave roost]

Can someone help me complete the Malleus Monstronum quest?

[celest dome]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[outer wave]

Not the right chat for this, and yeah that's the best chat

[young pecan]

I saw a video talking about daemons that mentioned how despite 40k having better weaponry, AoS and WHF fellows kill them just as well with just swords and stuff, said his belief is since it's a more personal way of killing them that it's more effective

If that's true I almost want a guard regiment that mostly trains martially and specializes in daemons

[celest dome]

"Ancient" weapons and Iron ones do work better than Guns, even in 40k.
Though being in melee is dangerous.
But it's mostly that the BF/AoS are made differently

[queen laurel]

Killing a demon with multiple barrages of weaponry is good but watching

Joe the average guy carry a great sword and duel a Bloodthirster is peak

[dapper gyro]

Deamons and various threats in 40k has a higher % of ranged weapon usage. Especially most of the troops actually do is to fight other rebellions and traitors troops.

[young pecan]

Melee being dangerous is less of a problem when your tactics can come down to doing what some bees do to hive-invading wasps

[dapper gyro]

You don't charge into a volley of ranged weapon apply to everyone.

[young pecan]

Also true

Which is why it wouldn't be only melee

Just where applicable

It also reminded me of a time where there was seemingly something pointing towards that being canon, where someone hand-carved prayers or runes or both onto their bullets, and it hurt a daemonhost a good bit

You can say that's just because of the holy part though so

But it was definitely more personal

[opaque coyote]

"Please Emperor... help me fight this battle that shall mark the fate of humanity."

"nah"

"Oi Empera, help me and the ladz out on taking out this cult!"

"I shall bless thee. Smite heretics with blinding faith!"

[dapper gyro]

It is the faith system of Warhammer, nothing more really.

If you believe that your weapon is strong, it does get stronger.

[opaque coyote]

Is that why the Ogryn rock can take out another Ogryn with full Carapace armor

[dapper gyro]

Like many relic weapons were once normal weapons, but by time and feat they achieved with their many users, more people believe in its power, and it gets stronger.

[astral burrow]

the canon zealot is kinda cute

i think emperor has enough blessings to bless both tho

[celest dome]

Well Psybolts, Purgatus Crossbows and some other work like that

[young pecan]

I don't know what either of those are but they sound cool

[opaque coyote]

To be honest I genuinely find that concept cool

Like how weapons became legendary is due to the feats the owner gave

and therefore the owner imprinted his own attitude into it.

[astral burrow]

doesnt that only work for orks

[opaque coyote]

Making it truly something else

[young pecan]

Maybe partly due to psychic residue

[opaque coyote]

Nah. It's just that the Orks have their own system.

[dapper gyro]

It works for everyone, but Orks makes trash work...

[astral burrow]

isnt the faith just superstition?

[young pecan]

Orks just do it stronger IIRC, but it's nowhere near as strong as a lot of shitposters act like it is

[dapper gyro]

Like, if a weapon of the imperium known to jam, it will never get the faith to become stronger.

[opaque coyote]

How do I say this.

Humanity works on a public server, where Daemons and stuff are also in.

While Orks work on a private server owned by Gork and Mork

[dapper gyro]

Orks believe that anything can work.

[opaque coyote]

No.

Basically the Immaterium/Warp is a warped (ba du mtss) reflection of real life.

That includes belief.

[dapper gyro]

Not in Warhammer.

[opaque coyote]

You have to truly, 100% believe in something to manifest it into reality

[astral burrow]

damn

[opaque coyote]

Due to the warp changing it.

[astral burrow]

i thought it was just mindless bullshit

[opaque coyote]

Faith is one way to actually manifest change.

Because you TRULY believe in it.

[arctic talon]

relaity lube™️ for orks

[astral burrow]

well i guess argenta isnt so st upid either

[opaque coyote]

Therefore it causes tangible results.

[arctic talon]

and yeah human faith does have

tangible effects

Eldar faith also did back during the war in heaven

considering they made their gods manifest on the battlefield

and then the eldar empire mostly stopped worshipping the eldar gods and we all know where that went

[celest dome]

Psybolts are Bolter rounds inscribed with runes, which can be filled with Warp power to further damage Deamons.
Purgatus Crossbow use runes only iirc

[opaque coyote]

But you have to truly believe in it.

Like 100% you have to believe, with all of your heart

"Yes, I will be able to do this."

And then it'll have some minor effect.

The more people believe in something, the greater the effects are.

[dapper gyro]

Funny enough, technology can take out the warp, especially during the DAOT, not only because of advanced tech, but also the believe of technology can overcome anything.

[opaque coyote]

That's why the Orks WAAGH stuff works

If a lot of Orks believe in something, it has an effect. But reality still constrains it.

[astral burrow]

most guardsmen and preachers and zealots and marines and sororitas do

[opaque coyote]

For example, an Ork can believe that their piece of shit, cobbled together, BARELY working gun is actually a proper shoota.

[celest dome]

Waaagh and Weird boy stuff don't depend on the same method.
Weird boys still fall under the Peril of the Warp

[dapper gyro]

It is when humanity started to have issue with techs and the believes dwelled down that stuff got to shit.

[opaque coyote]

However, that shoota still needs ammo, they cannot manifest ammo out of their minds.

[arctic talon]

generally speaking faith is a crapshoot lol

[opaque coyote]

They still need to reload.

[arctic talon]

sometimes it works

sometimes it doesn't

it is real though

[opaque coyote]

Like a printer.

Sometimes it doesn't work when you really want it to.

But rarely

[opaque coyote]

It saves you at your darkest moment

AKA

[arctic talon]

god such a funny ass video

[opaque coyote]

"Holy shit I can finally turn this shit in!"

[storm jungle]

I think what gets me is like

the amount of realism bayonet charging a massive robot

lol

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[rocky gale]

Tried playing Helldivers again recently

Hated it

[languid meadow]

Automatons being able to wallop you is the best thing in the game

[arctic talon]

people irl have done more idiotic things

[storm jungle]

correct

[opaque coyote]

Average Guardsman experience

[rocky gale]

Was having fun, then other people joined

[arctic talon]

you can change your lobby to private if you want

or is it a case of people are stupid

[young pecan]

The ragdoll was so fun on Helldivers

[rocky gale]

Called in an Orbital barrage to clear a Heavy encampment, one of them ran into it and died, then the other got on VC and called me a "fucking idiot" then teamkilled me and stood saluting until the timer ran out

[young pecan]

It feels weird now, I think they tweaked it

Definitely removed being able to fly with smoke plants

[languid meadow]

they made it so you couldn't get perm ragdolled by rockets and stuff but the funny ones still happen consistently enough

[dapper gyro]

People like that make me want to lead a rebellion against the Super Earth.

[arctic talon]

lol

[arctic talon]

ngl

being perma ragdolled was funny

[languid meadow]

depends

[arctic talon]

it wasn't very fun to expierence but it was funny to watch

[languid meadow]

getting juggled was kind of funny

[rocky gale]

Like how is it my fault someone ran into the barrage that I'd already called in

[arctic talon]

its not

[young pecan]

One time me and my friends landed on top of a restricted zone mountain, me and one of them made it down safely and in time but the other one was marked a traitor

[arctic talon]

if you're host you can just kick them though

[rocky gale]

Yea didn't realise that

[young pecan]

I had to do my duty and put him down myself 🫡

[arctic talon]

rip

anyways I usually only play with people I know tbh

or alone

[rocky gale]

Yeaa I should have

[arctic talon]

helps me avoid those types of people

sucks that they exist

but thats every multiplayer game in existence

[storm jungle]

ALWAYS host your own game

[arctic talon]

anyways I want more Squid enemies

[storm jungle]

especially on dickdivers

[arctic talon]

giv more squigs

I need more torment nexus

[dapper gyro]

I used to play mil sim and semi mil sim, but now I can't play such games anymore because of people like that.

[languid meadow]

oh boy I can't wait for more voteless abominations

voteless T-Rex

[storm jungle]

America?

oh whoops

[languid meadow]

you mean poors?

[storm jungle]

the Wokeless.....

[arctic talon]

rentoids

[storm jungle]

[languid meadow]

for super woke

[arctic talon]

give me Illusionists from 1

Make them like

spam shield walls

[languid meadow]

I can't find the rentoid rebllion meme

[arctic talon]

instead of invert controls

idfk

[dapper gyro]

No wonder they care about forklifts...

[arctic talon]

I also want the Hunter bac

[languid meadow]

them and council members were in the files iirc but that was so long ago

[outer wave]

Ive been also returning to HD2, and maybe Im a baby man bitch, but I kinda dont like the update for Illuminate?

[arctic talon]

because I think instant kill sniper

would be hilarious

[arctic talon]

what about it?

I think its fine gameplay wise

[outer wave]

I feel the annoyance of the flyers, mixed with the increased density, and the occasional knock down spam from certain enemies just makes them grueling to go against

[languid meadow]

the interlopers are honestly pretty fine

[arctic talon]

the new enemies make the illuminate actually scarier

[languid meadow]

they're AP2 so you can kill em with a primary

[dapper gyro]

HD2 is one of the game I hate to play high difficulty. Sweet gaming throw the fun of the game out for me.

[astral burrow]

they are mid

[arctic talon]

I think its fine

[outer wave]

Flyers being both elevated overseers and interlopers, though the latter is mostly okay as long as you can actually see where its route is

[astral burrow]

thank fuck i am not the only one

hi larmoth

[dapper gyro]

Darktide however, I like harder modes.

[outer wave]

I just hate overseers man

[arctic talon]

ngl I enjoy high difficulties because they aren't that hard

difficulty 10 is like

fine

[astral burrow]

i reinstalled when illuminates came out too, a barebones city in the middle of a desert with enemies that are NOT fun to fight against, it wasnt fun

[arctic talon]

the real torment nexus™️ difficulties are not in the game yet

for the people who truly enjoy pain

[astral burrow]

helldivers 1 had like what

[outer wave]

Fleshmobs however feel kinda fun to fight

[astral burrow]

17 difficulties?

[languid meadow]

watching the DSS get destroyed when the game explicitly told us if we sent it to that planet it would get destroyed

[outer wave]

[astral burrow]

smartest helldivers players

[young pecan]

Many such cases

[arctic talon]

15 yeah

[languid meadow]

I mean any collective gets stupid

[arctic talon]

I'd say like

helldive is fine

lol

inner circle of hell is actually like

[languid meadow]

there's a very good reason why people hate pubs for darktide in here

[arctic talon]

hell

[languid meadow]

holy shit

[arctic talon]

I love

40 behemoths

[astral burrow]

"Hard
Very Hard
Hard as Hell"

[young pecan]

Honestly pubs in Darktide isn't nearly as bad as pubs in many other games

[astral burrow]

i met extremely compotent randoms

[young pecan]

People are relatively sentient playing Darktide and rarely throw fits

[outer wave]

Darktide pubs are fine

[arctic talon]

I think the illuminate enemies are fine

the new ones rather

[outer wave]

I havent had many people that got mad for dumb shit

[arctic talon]

The old ones are whatever

its the illuminate

[astral burrow]

hell, i was afk doing something, turns out some guy waited for me to come back online cuz if he jumped down, and i fell off a ledge, i would have been gone

[languid meadow]

Darktide and R6 are some of the worst when it comes to people being straight up amoebas

[astral burrow]

i barely had anyone talk at all

[arctic talon]

the illuminate don't really feel like a real faction yet

they don't have any of their obnoxious shit yet

which is a shame