40k-lore-chat

[astral burrow]

Any point in raising reputation with vendors besides whatever is the highest to buy shit from them?

[median star]

just do kasbelica mission last and invest mainly in the pirates or tech priest

[astral burrow]

Kasbelica?

I already got the pirates and tech priest to 4 each lol

Tech priest to 5*

[median star]

the mfr that owns footfall

bald glasses

[astral burrow]

I see

I had so many compartments full

I gave most to the tech priest, instantly rank 5

[median star]

also when you do get planets make sure you do the projects and shit tons of valuabe stuff from them

you get like 5 maybe 6 planets in total

[astral burrow]

Projects?

I only visited 3 planets so far

[sacred ginkgo]

Focus the Explorators and Drusians

[astral burrow]

Eurac 5, rykad minoris, and just landed on the planet

[astral burrow]

Do they get new stuff

[median star]

theirs things you van build on them and that give you shit

[astral burrow]

If not getting to rank 5 seems easy

[sacred ginkgo]

Kasbasillica and Fellowship are basically free due to Unforeseen Consequences

[astral burrow]

Sick

Didn't see any options het

Yet

[median star]

like weapons profit factor point for other traders etc

[sacred ginkgo]

After act one and after act 3

[astral burrow]

Ah

Level 11 rn

Psy rating 1

Got the inferno staff

It is awesome

[median star]

psy rating 1

[astral burrow]

So satisfying when all shots hit one guy

[sacred ginkgo]

The issue I’ve had the last 2 runs is over investing kasbasillica and fellowship cause they had stuff for my build

[astral burrow]

Can't be higher at that level really

[median star]

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

[astral burrow]

It is one every 10 levels starting at 4

[sacred ginkgo]

And I forget rep for them is basically free after act 3

[sacred ginkgo]

Set yourself on fire

[astral burrow]

I just got them both to rank 5 cuz... I could

[sacred ginkgo]

Psy rating 2

[astral burrow]

What the fuck?

How do u even raise it further besides the talent you get every 4+10 levels

[sacred ginkgo]

Pyro has a talent that gives you bonuses if you’re on fire

[median star]

armors or trinkets

[astral burrow]

How the fuck do you light yourself on fire

[sacred ginkgo]

And a way to permanently enflame you for the encounter

[astral burrow]

Didn't find any that gives Psy rating

[sacred ginkgo]

Cast Ignite on self

[astral burrow]

Won't that damage me?

[median star]

you are only in act 2

of 5

[sacred ginkgo]

Yes

[astral burrow]

I am in act 1

Smh

Prologue isn't an act

[sacred ginkgo]

Badly if you’re built well

[astral burrow]

I am built very well

I ain't hurting myself like that smh smh

[sacred ginkgo]

Prologue is considered act 1

[astral burrow]

Real?

Wiki lists it different

[sacred ginkgo]

Once you leave Rykad it’s act 2

[astral burrow]

Rykad isn't prologue

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh well I consider it act 1

There’s no tangible difference

[astral burrow]

Rykad IS part of act 1

Cassia the tech priest and that inquisition guy are act 1

According to the wiki

[sacred ginkgo]

Yes

Act two has 2 companions

[astral burrow]

Then I am in act 1

[sacred ginkgo]

Act three has 2 companions

[astral burrow]

Only finished the first part of rykad minoris

[sacred ginkgo]

And act 4 technically has a few companions

[astral burrow]

Gotta go to the mechanicus monastery

Argenta has grown on me

I am not building a team just using whoever I like lmao

[median star]

youre near the end of act 1

[astral burrow]

I will do the side stuff first

Prison planet and rykad majoris

I love exploring

Every nook and cranny and loot

I am a loot goblin

[median star]

heinrix is in then place youre talking abt hes my goat

[sacred ginkgo]

Every nook and cranny is the optimal experience

[astral burrow]

Yeah I was told

[astral burrow]

And fin

Fun

Did it in bg3 too

That's why I still haven't finished a single run

This feels like it is taking much longer than bg3 tho

Crazy

[sacred ginkgo]

RT has less to do

[astral burrow]

I am having trouble getting attached to my psyker tho

Can I see you guys' characters?

[sacred ginkgo]

You can do everything in like 80 hrs

[astral burrow]

80?

It feels sooo much longer

Maybe cuz I am busy and can only play in short bursts...

Prologue took me 2 days lmao

[sacred ginkgo]

Thats what my previous 2 playthoughs are at

[astral burrow]

I need inspiration

[sacred ginkgo]

Officer Grand Strategist
Dogmatic 3 Iconoclast 2
(this is my first character, and my least powerful)

Forgot to turn my hat back on

[astral burrow]

Pretty

Hard to make a good looking guy

Set body to 3 cuz I don't wanna look like a hefty big man

But my head gets squished

[sacred ginkgo]

Soldier Arch Militant
Iconoclast 5
(second character, built with actual knowledge and a total boardsweeper)

[astral burrow]

The look I had for my psyker

But changed it today

To what it was originally.

Don't have a picture of it tho

[sly ivy]

Rogue Trader has no right to be so good

[astral burrow]

Damn are you a sister of battle

[sacred ginkgo]

origin there is Crime Lord actually

Or fortress world

Forget

[astral burrow]

When you have 3 on one 2 on one alignment

The highest one gives you the ending?

[sacred ginkgo]

Yes

Just full send

[astral burrow]

Ah nice

[sacred ginkgo]

Its better

[astral burrow]

I am

3 on dogmatic rn

3 on heresy

24 on iconoclast

There are some things I just can't be an iconoclast towards

But should still be good enough to get the ending

[sacred ginkgo]

Bladedancer Executioner Pyromancer
Heretical 5
(Third character, and by far my most powerful, run is in late act 4 though)

[astral burrow]

That's also cute

Psyker with 2 swords? Crazy

[sacred ginkgo]

Static psy rating of 6, goes to 7 after I light myself on fire

[sacred ginkgo]

Give me a sec to get in a fight and grab some damage numbers

[astral burrow]

How do u survive the fire

[sacred ginkgo]

I'm tougher than abelard and I don't have any HP modifying talents besides 1

[astral burrow]

This was my first look

[astral burrow]

Go for toughness huh

[sacred ginkgo]

Also, using the permanent enflame thing on myself reduces the tick to like 3 damage

[astral burrow]

I don't wanna be tanky I wanna be a glass cannon

[astral burrow]

What is that called

Should change my guys scar to a burn mark

[sacred ginkgo]

So funny story

I've never taken a toughness increase on this character

[astral burrow]

So it is just armor?

[sacred ginkgo]

Nope

[astral burrow]

What then

Just gave high toughness at first?

[sacred ginkgo]

I'm just built fucking different

[astral burrow]

Can psyker even pick toughness at level up

[sacred ginkgo]

My HP scales on medicae

[astral burrow]

Meh I will just pick the on fire one

[astral burrow]

Oh thats sick I need that

[sacred ginkgo]

Which scales on my agility because of Unforeseen Consequences

[astral burrow]

There are way too many talents to read all of them...

[sacred ginkgo]

Bladedancer talent

[astral burrow]

My medicae is 60

[astral burrow]

Oh...

Mine is an officer

I am support

[astral burrow]

Sitting in the backline together with cassia

[astral burrow]

Blade dancer sounds fucking broken

Like kibellah makes every encounter so easy it is fucking boring now

[sacred ginkgo]

Do you care about minor act 4 spoilers (not main plot)

[astral burrow]

Yes

[sacred ginkgo]

It is

[astral burrow]

Dont gimme

I am going full blind

I picked officer cuz idk

Wait no

Operative

It sounded cool

And the first psyker companion I get, also operative

[sacred ginkgo]

Ok the vaguest I can be is I have an item that singlehandedly enables those skill numbers

[astral burrow]

Fuck me

I will at least go like assassin or smth

So I can go at least a little wild

I will pick the more Psy rating while on fire thing tho

[sacred ginkgo]

Getting silly

[astral burrow]

I also have the ability I don't know if I can use it on myself tho

If an ally is burning, their attacks deal burn

[sacred ginkgo]

You can cast Ignite then Orchestrate on yourself

Its how I start encounters

[astral burrow]

Need the infinite burn and more psy when burnt thing

Might need more Psy to unlock thsoe

[sacred ginkgo]

You don't

Rating while burning is a common talent

[astral burrow]

All the pyro skills were locked behind those psy talents

That I could see

Or I just ignored that one

Will psy rating even help much

It is like +1 damage to staff attacks

[median star]

i had kibellah doing 2k bleed stacks per turn on final boss w out even trying to minmax her

[astral burrow]

I had her clean out an entire encounter I was supposed to do with TURRETS

She jumped from enemy to enemy

It was crazy

[median star]

she only gets better completely stole away what i had abelard doing in party roll

[sacred ginkgo]

Bladedancer is just broken

It shatters the action economy

[astral burrow]

I might just stop using her altogether

[median star]

you can also romance her

[astral burrow]

The game has only 1 romance option.

[median star]

wrong

[astral burrow]

Correct

Everyone else is insignificant

Cassia is the most beautiful thing humanity has ever beholded

[median star]

ugly fish mutant more like

[median star]

also

[astral burrow]

They look... odd

Like the head is too small?

Did you mod smth?

[median star]

no

[astral burrow]

I need answers for smth

"Blood for the Emperor, skulls for the golden throne"

Why is this such a big deal?

Sounds normal to me

Throne does have skulls all over it

[languid meadow]

Because Khornes war cry is "Blood for the blood god! Skulls for skull throne!"

[astral burrow]

That's it?

It is not the same tho

If anything I would take that as mocking khornes war cry

[languid meadow]

so it implies that the followers of the emperor are falling under Khornes influence slowly

[astral burrow]

Or they are just making fun of it

[misty vector]

I think thats unlikely

[languid meadow]

90% of non corrupted humanity wouldn't know that war cry

[astral burrow]

Oh

So it just comes to their mind, they think they cooked

Why doesn't anyone do anything about it then lol

[misty vector]

If you kill well you draw the attention of khorne, traitor or not

Could also be a more symbolic voice line

As wildly killing for khorne and for the emperor is similar

[median star]

im going to make a law to stop u from thinking now

wonder if i can enforce it

[sacred ginkgo]

That would still be heresy

[astral burrow]

Can't emperor know tho?

[median star]

know what

[astral burrow]

You would think they would have a thought police

[sacred ginkgo]

They try

[astral burrow]

That someone uttered that war cry

Isn't he watching every corner of imperium at all times

[sacred ginkgo]

No

[median star]

i mean anyone other then like an inquisitor gonna ge hell yea dude for the emperor like they said earlier most ppl dont put two and two together as they dont even know the whole second piece exist

[sacred ginkgo]

We are on a Hereticus ship so Rannick definitely knows but probably just ignores it

Well not hereticus ship but under hereticus leadership

[tough haven]

It’s left undisclosed, either he is incompetent to alter his realm, or is unaware of the horrors happening within it

[astral burrow]

Lmao

They feel so... odd

@soft hare

Wolf ones go stupid hard

[soft hare]

If I could drop the chainsword and just take on the heretics with a bullpup rifle and the shotgun pistol, I would.

I don't care how poorly it could go

[astral burrow]

This is baller

[soft hare]

Game and the crew had such attitude. I think the kids call it vibes now

[astral burrow]

THIS is hilarious

[soft hare]

When you've had it with the pickles and need to pull an intervention

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-buddy-you-have-to-be-quiet-people-don't-like-you-hey-buddy-you-have-to-be-quiet-because-hey-buddy-you-have-to-be-quiet-because-people-don't-like-you-gif-3338348331317023398

[tough haven]

This^

[astral burrow]

Chains, I think we have to kill this guy

This is even funnier

Why isn't wolf wearing a vest bruh

Man is soaked in blood he is fucking dead

[soft hare]

He's doing a dodge build

Very normal thing to do

[astral burrow]

Not in payday 1 bruh

[soft hare]

Unless they changed how dodge works more than I realize

Oh.

Props forgot it in the van

[crystal forum]

back when payday had an understandable coherent design

at least my friend got to play with general mcbadass live before the game turned into dog shit

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-squidward-bad-day-mood-gif-17692437710585122498

[astral burrow]

Sick

I got to play with red archer live

[languid meadow]

wrong gif lmao

[astral burrow]

U may not know him

He was kinda big tho

[winter vessel]

during the first week of SM2's release i played against co-host of Ad Ridiculous, DKdiamantes in a PVP match

[tough haven]

I had a awful idea

I figured someone could easily edit one of the the ogryn characters singing any song with “shawty” in it, but replaced with “Shouty” referring to a zealot

[green loom]

Man, payday was a thing

[vagrant fox]

https://fxtwitter.com/PAYDAYGame/status/1921622223925788864

PAYDAY 3 (@PAYDAYGame)

*takes notes*

Quoting ganii (COMMS OPEN) (@gahhnie)
︀
theres a furry convention out there thats being used as a cover for the riskiest bank job in history

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Payday

[astral burrow]

Bain would do this if he was alive

[languid meadow]

anything for the bag

[soft hare]

What's the lore implications if the psyker's beloved is cegorach?

[dapper gyro]

That's an if of an if... so basically it can be whatever you want it to be.

[tough haven]

How do y’all feel about RPG campaigns ending with a TPK

Personally I think if the party chooses something that leads to it, I think it’s fair

[median star]

if done correctly its great but hardly ever is

[arctic talon]

Depends, I think if the party fucks up hard enough it’s on them

It sucks but like

[storm jungle]

whats a TPK

[tough haven]

Total party kill

[storm jungle]

LOL

[vagrant fox]

If it's an organic cool moment it works out, if it's some forced rocks fall everyone dies it's crung

[storm jungle]

Yeah absolutely not

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

It has to be dramatic and worthy of it

[tough haven]

I think it’s ok towards the end

[arctic talon]

I can always retcon the fucking TPK if the party wants it enough

I am literally god

My word is reality.

[tough haven]

I think if the party makes enough shitty choices

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats another thing, if its absolutely their fault then yes

like-

"You arrived to talk with the King."

"I want to kill him"

rolls to kill him and succeeds

"Okay now the entirety of the bodyguards kill you"

lol

[tough haven]

Who am I to stop them if they choose to try and die

[storm jungle]

Fuck around and find out

[arctic talon]

I’d just say no, but none of my players are actual smooth brains

They have wrinkles

[storm jungle]

Yeah like this is played off as a "joke" in most media but its absolutely true and frustrating, because when you say "no" they say you are being unfair and not letting them wiggle out of it lol

[tough haven]

It is a role playing game after all

[arctic talon]

Tbf it’s collaborative lol

If the whole party really wants to them sure

[storm jungle]

It reminds me of that really good Emperor TTS episode where Magnus runs a WHF RPG game for the throne crew and they fucking demolish any sense of it

[arctic talon]

They can kill themselves

[storm jungle]

also constantly accuse Magnus of railroading htem

which is fucking ridiculous

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

Legit one of my fav episodes

because it does EVERY DnD player trope

[arctic talon]

Some people just want to play Calvinball

Lol

So I’m happy I have people who actually want to engage in the ttrpg stuff I run

[vagrant fox]

When my only war priest charged a tank with his power fist 100% believing the emps would protect just to be gunned down that's a conscious rp choice. If the GM had forced it I'd have been annoyed
Kinda just boils down to that for me

[storm jungle]

Honestly I love realistic deaths like that

that is actually fucking hilarious

[vagrant fox]

Railroading can be fine, as long as there's leeway later

Only War has had the most consistently funny deaths, being in the guard sucks so bad

[storm jungle]

Yeah in the video they blame Magnus when they are the ones literally ruining the game lol

and then just play to spite him, but the proble mis Magnus also sets them up in a fight they cannot possibly win because they also act against him

its legit such a good video that showcases every bad DnD player/DM streotypes

https://youtu.be/M-9-bQ3JoWY

Highly recommend it

[vagrant fox]

You can't make me watch TTS

That guys can ruin a fun game so bad

[storm jungle]

if it helps its completely unrelated and just can be watched as "idiots play Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay"

and I say this as a person that hates TTS lol

[crystal forum]

but TTS is awesome

[storm jungle]

shut up jay

[crystal forum]

it literally is you just hate the community

[storm jungle]

No I hate everyone

thats different

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-orson-krennic-andor-pleased-delighted-gif-284138968272202426

[arctic talon]

Railroading/the illusion of choice™️

[storm jungle]

again I bring up helldivers

[crystal forum]

i'd like to railroad something rn

[storm jungle]

when the spectacle is peak no one will notice you railroading

[vagrant fox]

The benevolent GM runs the game and I grovel at their feet

[storm jungle]

beg for those items loser

[crystal forum]

things are getting spicy

[nocturne crest]

What's getting spicy?

[vagrant fox]

Tried to play with a very autistic guy who would memorize every rule and then rules lawyer every loophole and exploit everything he could
I've never loathed someone as much as that guy so quickly

[nocturne crest]

Also, seeing how Destiny 2 and Star wars are having a crossover dlc next year or something, would the same work with 40k.

[crystal forum]

did you take care of him

will he keep being a problem

[vagrant fox]

He is totally obliterated

[vagrant fox]

I mean, yeah, technically. Don't think I'd want it

Man I really miss ttrpgs, I'm gonna put out feelers tomorrows for real this time for real for real

[soft hare]

Good position to have.

Every campaign is a soft intro for Escape from the Underworld

[outer wave]

How did you obliterate him?

[opaque coyote]

Magnus taking it too personal and railroads the players

Not taking things into account

Meanwhile the Players ruining every plan and not cooperating with him in the slightest

Beautiful

Also the Emperor being the fucking attempted Mary Sue is God damned hilarious

"Why not? I dodged arrows all the time."

Also the detail of Magnar Buckethead probably being Magnus's player character turned DMNPC is also funny

Which is why he cared for him a lot when he uh

Died

And also why he had detailed stats

[astral burrow]

Hi

[dapper gyro]

Brother, I don't even know when you are on or off. Nevertheless, Hi/

Fk, why do I sound so hostile... sorry.

[astral burrow]

I just woke up lmao

[dapper gyro]

Same here...

waking up at 02h00...

[raven stone]

Morning

[summer mural]

andor destroyed my soul

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-the-empire-andor-maarva-star-wars-fight-the-empire-gif-5800501281766938582

[raven stone]

That false flag operation is a stark reminder of how easy it is to manipulate a powder keg.

[summer mural]

its so good

the first thing I did after finishing andor was rewatch rogue one lol

cassians death really hits you in the guts after watching s2

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-cassian-andor-andor-smirk-pleased-gif-667447246046561056

[queen laurel]

ya almost got me

[shadow plover]

[raven stone]

Crossovers are getting increasingly random nowadays.

It cheapens the concept of it IMHO.

[dapper gyro]

It is not even an opinion, it is a fact.

What quicker way to make money than slapping something already established into your product.

[green loom]

They sell toys

[raven stone]

I miss the deeper crossovers

Like actually exploring lore or characters crossovers

[summer mural]

i miss nothing about destiny

except the actual shooting

[raven stone]

That’s fair, was speaking for crossover in very generic, broad terms

[summer mural]

I hope they show some m2 stuff on skulls

its in like a week right

https://tenor.com/view/mechanicus-2-gif-7262010353917165761

[raven stone]

Yea

[celest dome]

Next Thursday

[sour hornet]

Bro did I just post this in 40k chat

I'm killing myself publicly

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[rocky gale]

What did you post?

[raven stone]

You were not being unreasonably ||Halo|| crazy

So you get a pass

||Halo|| crazy would be saying ||a SPARTAN can beat an Astartes in a 1v1||

[astral burrow]

Which generation?

A spartan 3 could put up a fair fight

[raven stone]

whichever generation the earliest game was since I think that was when it first surfaced.

[astral burrow]

Chief has always been a spartan 3

[raven stone]

Ah ok

[astral burrow]

Nvm he is a spartan 2

[hallow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

2>3>>>>>4

[astral burrow]

3s are just

Cheaper, more numerous, volunteer kids

Well however much a 6 year old can volunteer for apperently.

Reach folks are 3s

[hallow plover]

"Volunteer"

ONI at it's finest

[astral burrow]

I guess 2 are better cuz chief is still alive

There are more spartan 3s cuz they are children who lost their families and want revenge so they enlist themselves apperently

Not kidnapped like 2s

Since there are more, they work in teams

But a spartan 2 can probably fight a space marine, they are nearly equal

[celest dome]

Ok, but what about we take 2 identical planets; give them 50 to 100 years, on one we give them SM plans/methods, on the other Spartans

Which would be more likely to win, and why would it be ||HALO ||

[raven stone]

I like the methodical approach but I suck at theoretical maths/lore So…I leave it to the experts to answer that 😅

[near wasp]

You recruit children at about the same time for both

Space Marines take five then ten years to grow geneseed

Spartans don't have any product limits like that so they can be more easily mass produced but depending on what generation of spartan that can lead to lower or higher success rates, let's just say spartan 2 since they are the most comparable to space marines

Why am I being nut reacted

[astral burrow]

Cuz geneseed

[near wasp]

Ok then you slaneshi weirdos

[umbral kraken]

Naruto would win

[hallow plover]

Geneseed is stored in the ||nuts||

[near wasp]

Only about 1 in 20 candidates for space Marines can actually be implanted

While Spartans failure rate is only roughly half

[hallow plover]

Take into account the size of the UNSC territory/colonies vs the Imperium of man

The pools are not the same size at all

[near wasp]

I was using this as my basis

While Spartans gear is less lethal than space Marines, given the numbers advantage and energy shielding even if Spartans lacked constant means to fell Marines they'd still drag out a victory

And Spartans do have gear powerful enough to kill a space Marine like spartan laser and rocket launchers

[astral burrow]

What about you take a space marine and a spartan 2 and let them just duke it out with no guns, just melee

[near wasp]

Space Marine wins in hand to hand

Especially if it's a naked bare knuckle brawl

[storm jungle]

Unless its lore-accurate Master Chief...

[near wasp]

Master Chief has luck

That doesn't count

[near wasp]

Then Chris has to fight cato sacarius

[storm jungle]

Its not even luck

[celest dome]

No armour ? SM like 7-8 out of 10
With armour, 6-7 I think

[storm jungle]

hes like a Custodian-tier threat in the books

its fucking hilarious

[storm jungle]

Not on my watch he doesnt

[near wasp]

Lol I'm just making it fair

[queen laurel]

he's not called demon for no reason

[near wasp]

Only good thing the halo show did was this
https://youtu.be/Mh9XNb6E4t8?si=QUndtEfEEQKgoTYJ

[vagrant fox]

Who is this pretender, bring back noble 6

[hallow plover]

I thought it was fan animation until I read it was the show

[umbral kraken]

that looks seriously terrible for an expensive TV show

[near wasp]

That entire show was terrible

[hallow plover]

And John Halo keeps taking off his helmet I think

[near wasp]

Yeah

[astral burrow]

Yes armor

They both gain a lot from the armor

[astral burrow]

That was the least of its issues

[umbral kraken]

whatever problem let them publish this scene like this must be related to the show's general lack of quality

[astral burrow]

Nah the writing was so dogshit literally nothing would have saved it

[winter vessel]

The only good points I’d give to the show were the prop and armor design for the UNSC forces

[sour hornet]

I was doing weight calcs for Spartan IV's and posted in the 40k lore channel instead of the Halopedia lore channel

I was like, "huh, something seems off about these account names" then realized what I did and wanted to kill myself

"I don't remember Heretic_Cacti being part of my halo friend group"

[winter vessel]

Mirage. My 2nd best armor core in Infinite

[sour hornet]

it's definitely kino

[winter vessel]

For first place I’m still a Mark V’er because Reach was the highlight of my Halo experience. 3rd will go to Mark VII and fourth goes to Rakshasa

[rose thorn]

Looked at the new 1k sons rules

[sour hornet]

based, ultimately

[rose thorn]

My guess was right lmao

Only like 2 detachments will have psykers stuff

Otherwise your playing blue marines

[sly ivy]

Cringe

[arctic talon]

Their entire army rule is literally Psyker stuff what

[queen laurel]

psychic rules

when the psychic phase has been removed

[arctic talon]

Yes

Tsons got it back

Lol

[queen laurel]

that's absolutely hilarious

We removed the psychic phase but we will give you psychic rules on army

[shadow plover]

that's cool

[queen laurel]

tbh I would be offended if they don't have psychic rules

[shadow plover]

because it's definitely not required for most armies. The baked in psychic abilities are good enough for pretty much every other faction

[arctic talon]

Craftworld Eldar in shambles

[queen laurel]

Didn't they got new shiny models and even updated an old ass model they have

What's the problem with them

[arctic talon]

I’m joking because psychic phase

[rose thorn]

Oh didn’t see that my bad

[arctic talon]

guh

wait what did you see

[rose thorn]

The article that got posted

[arctic talon]

oh

my bad

I thought you were talking about the leaks

[queen laurel]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/nofwm1b5/how-to-get-the-most-out-of-the-thousand-sons-just-as-planned/

[rose thorn]

It talks about the psyker detachment and the vehicle one

[rose thorn]

Ur good

If the greyknights rules turn out to be amazing I might start GKs

[shadow plover]

https://x.com/OwlcatGames/status/1923030612274745410?t=COnSZAAbK78s1dpxDlRCag&s=19

Owlcat Games (@OwlcatGames) on X

The whispers grow louder... something is awakening in the Warp. Are you ready?

X · May 15, 2025, 3:00 PM

The arbites expansion or something else entirely?

"something is awakening in the Warp" doesn't really sound a lot like arbites stuff

[hallow basin]

gonna put them demons in handcuffs and shit

[shadow plover]

Imma call: Next game announcement, based on Dark Heresy

[arctic talon]

Imperium maledictum

[hallow basin]

Only War based game pretty please 🥺

[outer wave]

I think it was Black Crusade is where you make a cult right? I think that as a game would go hard

[summer mural]

just in: the arbites are warpcops

[astral burrow]

Started mechanicus

Haha

Funny copypasta

[astral burrow]

Do u not want hammer

[summer mural]

BASED

skitaari vanguards the real mvps

[astral burrow]

I love skitarii

Wonder how this game is

This mf is really called reditus

[summer mural]

its a great game

difficulty early on can be challenging

but the music and tech priest characters are really fun

and eventually your squad gets extremely strong

[astral burrow]

What genre exactly

Is it like clash of clans?

[summer mural]

mechanicus?

[astral burrow]

Or those war games ww2 nerds play?

Yeah

[summer mural]

its xcom style

its like chaosgate

[astral burrow]

Never played XCOM

[summer mural]

turn based squad tactical combat

[astral burrow]

Never played that either

[summer mural]

you get action points per turn and your units and the enemy units get turns to act

[celest dome]

Krait being a Fey being really is the only thing that work in my mind

[summer mural]

and you upgrade your troops over time and the game gets harder and harder

[crystal forum]

XCOM more like snake waifu simulator

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/xcom-hop-on-gif-26943695

[astral burrow]

I am not into strategy games

But I fw mechanicus, heavy

[astral burrow]

Damn why a baddie

[summer mural]

itl def be challenging for you early on

its hard early even if you're used to xcom style games

[crystal forum]

he wants to be attacked smh

[summer mural]

but the themeing is really nice

and they do justice to the mechanicus characters mostly

[winter vessel]

delayed snek reaction

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/viper-xcom2-gif-22293901

[astral burrow]

I love mechanicus so much

[crystal forum]

xcom 2's difficulty curve is the opposite of xcom 1

[astral burrow]

So I am gonna play

[queen laurel]

i have seen orks shoot better than that

[astral burrow]

Should have been me...

[crystal forum]

you start and you fucking die

[crystal forum]

oh no i am so unhappy oh noooooo

[summer mural]

xcom 2 gets easier the more you play, firsst blind playthrough is pretty damn hard

for most xcom style games

[astral burrow]

I can't take this mf serious his name is reditus

[crystal forum]

yeah but xcom 2 is devious

i think it's made to show how desperate the rebels are

[summer mural]

just start with a reaper

[crystal forum]

since you start while the aliens are at their peak

then xcom chimera squad is just uh

[summer mural]

EW

NO

[crystal forum]

where is this series even going

[summer mural]

WE DESERVED XCOM 3

WHY FIRAXIS

[crystal forum]

they turned xcom into a rom com

[astral burrow]

Does emperor really have anything to do with the omnissiah? Or does he just go along with it

[winter vessel]

R-com

[summer mural]

chimera squad has like one or two cool changes to the formula, but as a whole that game is like a 5/10

[queen laurel]

The machine god is a completely different thing

[summer mural]

the mechanicus believe hes the avatar of the omnissiah, emperor most probably is just like " yeah sure lol, just get to work and gimme the guns and tanks"

[crystal forum]

meanwhile xcom 1's mutant DLC is like twice the content of the original game

[astral burrow]

Yeah just "sure lol"

[crystal forum]

i love xcom 1

[astral burrow]

That's it

[celest dome]

For legal reasons they are the same, but that's just legal side

[summer mural]

xcom 1 is pretty good yeah

[winter vessel]

we all know that the Thin Men are just the final evolutionary stage of Vegans in XCOM

[summer mural]

I would have liked the genetic lab to make a comeback in xcom 2

it was so sick watching my soldiers literally leap onto roofs

[crystal forum]

xcom 2 has too much story going on

gameplay should have remained the core part of the game

[summer mural]

overall though, im very happy with xcom 2

I enjoy it

enjoyed 1 too

[crystal forum]

it's good yeah

[summer mural]

didnt enjoy chimera that much

[queen laurel]

yeah the ecclesiarchy and the rest of the imperium think that it's just an aspect of the emperor

[astral burrow]

Isn't gfl2 an insult to XCOM

[summer mural]

Ive said this before, but im also happy that xcom 2 is inspiring all these xcom style games across media

[crystal forum]

that's what happens when a good franchise is butchered for no reason

[outer wave]

I havent heard anything bad about it in terms of gameplay, but it is a gacha so take that as you will

[summer mural]

like we got mechanicus , and chaosgate, and now m2, and we got one for marvel, and now we are getting one for star wars

[crystal forum]

hey man xcom didn't invent turn based games

[winter vessel]

my friend said the same thing about Gears of War, before that E-day trailer was released that is

[summer mural]

ik but like

the style is so xcom 1 and 2

oh and gears tactics

[sour hornet]

Nah, it's the same curve

[crystal forum]

i dont agree

the game gets way too easy later on

and it starts way too hard

[sour hornet]

Oh, nvm

Xcom 1 is like that too though

[crystal forum]

xcom 1 starts super easy man

and the end mission made me shit my pants several times

my pants are ruined

[sour hornet]

I mean, with a solid grasp of mechanics, both are pretty easy, but both start you off in dire straits, then get super easy.

[crystal forum]

there's a lot less mechanics you start off with in the first

[sour hornet]

Like I never lost someone past a certain point playing EU

[raven stone]

You want difficult

You do Ironman

[sour hornet]

I play long war for difficulty

[crystal forum]

i did ironman my first game without realizing it

[astral burrow]

Yeah goonerbait gacha

[crystal forum]

i didn't even know you could save

normal difficulty tbf

[outer wave]

Brother in Christ, you goon to Cassia

[summer mural]

xcom 2 is not as well balanced as 1 imo, but I think its better in every other aspect

[astral burrow]

And?

[sour hornet]

EU allowing you to coverscum even in endgame makes it easy though

[crystal forum]

but i wasn't new to turn based games so that helped me a lot

[raven stone]

Yea I never understand the Gacha hate.

You don't like spending, don't spend.

Simple.

[sour hornet]

Timers on Xcom 2 force you to do dumb shit, which I hate

[astral burrow]

She is a mutant with a terrible skin condition, gills, and a third eye, she is far from "soldier" robot girls with jiggling gigantic boobs

[outer wave]

Yeah I dont got anything else to say, it adds up

[raven stone]

You aren't hating Gacha, you hate the anime pandering.

[astral burrow]

With he genre comes so much slop

[winter vessel]

"come on now let's leave your mother out of this".-Hondo Ohnaka

[crystal forum]

people who don't want to buy games get suckered into spending in gachas

[astral burrow]

There is no gacha that isn't like that, if the game isn't dedicated gacha, it has lootboxes

[crystal forum]

it's predatory

[sour hornet]

It's easy to understand the hate. They're like casinos, and I hate casinos.

[summer mural]

gacha games really hold your dopamine triggers hostage whenever you boot up one imo

[outer wave]

As someone that used to play alot of gachas, I will pride myself in never spending money once in any of those games

[crystal forum]

i know people who spent more in war thunder than their total steam library is worth

[astral burrow]

It is like "do this daily things every single day, don't miss a single event, scrounge up everything you can get so you can maybe get a character you like while we rake in millions

[queen laurel]

Gambling in a game is only fun when you don't need to gamble and can have it as a side thing

[astral burrow]

It is the most predatory game system EVER

[summer mural]

its also absurdly popular because of how well it works

[queen laurel]

Or you know it's integrated as a mechanic that is integral but isn't designed to drain money

[astral burrow]

And people like generic anime women

[winter vessel]

oh no. anyways rolls again for that one Nikke

[sour hornet]

Like what? Gacha games are money printers build off of enticing you to spend the whole time. Super predatory and off-putting. Also typically filled with gooner shit. Speaking as an Azur Lane, Girls' Frontline veteran.

[crystal forum]

then you're playing a sub par version of the game. i just avoid them completely and play games where i pay up front

[raven stone]

But then that is dependent on each individual game. Some games do actually have completely viable free to play paths.

[outer wave]

Thats just a daily system, which isnt much different from any eastern MMOs. It was the thing that made me tired of playing gachas after a while, though

[raven stone]

And toy don't need TEH OP characters

[astral burrow]

Always filled with gooner shit

[outer wave]

Actually did perfectly fine in those games

[astral burrow]

Yeah nothing you say means anything anymore fr

[crystal forum]

me on the other hand i spend all my hard earned cash on stellaris DLC's

[queen laurel]

Yeah like light monetization

[raven stone]

As if things like League of Legends or Overwatch don't have gooner shit...

[sour hornet]

It has to be, to entice their mostly young male demographic to spend for big tiddy anime girls.

[astral burrow]

I would rather play an MMO where I don't need to do every single daily every day and never miss a thing just to get new stuff, and get an actual game instead of the bare minimum gameplay

[outer wave]

F/GO, one of the more notorious gachas due to the lack of a safety net, spent no money and did later content okay

[winter vessel]

you mean like your unrequited love for a girl with albinism on a top down rpg game?

[astral burrow]

As if literally anyone here likes those

[queen laurel]

Like paid currencies is the least scummy monetization practice in games now

At least you can see with your two eyes that you're buying premium currencies

[raven stone]

I play Wild Rift lol

[astral burrow]

I am not the one spending money on a game whose entire aesthetic and personality is gigantic butts

[astral burrow]

That's not league wild rift is fun once in a while

[outer wave]

Thats Nikke not GFL lmao

[winter vessel]

what makes you think i play that game? i was literally make a joke

[queen laurel]

People will look at a tyranid and say BET

the human brain is truly an enigma

[raven stone]

OK I am actually going to give Krait a bit of credit here and say Cassia does have more personality compared to Nikke or GFL lot.

[outer wave]

Thats only if you confirm its a female and it has a vaguely feminine form

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah Jay

you wanted to see some vehicles in trench crusade right

[raven stone]

...OK but what do you make of the weeklies or Penances for Darktide? Are those not functionally the same (but spread over longer time)?

[outer wave]

That is true

[queen laurel]

@crystal forum a TRENCH GHOST TANK PALANQUIN

[outer wave]

But also Id expect a CRPG to actually develop characters over a gacha

[outer wave]

Thats so cool

I dont know why its like that, but thats so cool

[astral burrow]

Penances are literally just achievements

And weeklies are things that can be done in like one sitting

And ARENT pretty much mandatory

[winter vessel]

The Trench Ghosts are an interesting angle for a faction in TC

they're neither of Heaven or Hell

[astral burrow]

If you know what a gacha is and still don't get the hate I feel nothing but pity for you

[winter vessel]

but damned souls on a battlefield

[dapper gyro]

Wtf with this chat today...

[astral burrow]

How the FUCK am I supposed to tell that?!

[queen laurel]

This is normal?

[astral burrow]

It is literally impossible

[queen laurel]

we talk about random **** here all the time

[winter vessel]

shrugs skill issue i guess

[astral burrow]

Yeah they mentioned nikke

[astral burrow]

I AM NOT TELEPATHIC

[raven stone]

This is not heated by any means, no worries

[outer wave]

Skill issue, dayo

[winter vessel]

I'm having too much fun with this

[astral burrow]

Yeah this isn't hated we are cool

[raven stone]

It is pretty normal amd tame by lore channel/Internet standards

[astral burrow]

I am just HOW AM I SUPPSED TO KNOW RHAT WAS A JOKE

[winter vessel]

going back to Doom Dark ages and crack some Demon skulls

[sour hornet]

I do hate it when people make female aliens that have no relation to mammals have breasts and feminine figures

[raven stone]

Just one thing, that is a prequel, right?

[queen laurel]

yes

[winter vessel]

yes.

[outer wave]

Yeah thats always a bit weird to look at

[queen laurel]

It's a prequel

[winter vessel]

This time the Slayer isn't fighting alone and actually is battling the forces of Hell alongside warriors

[dapper gyro]

Yeah, but love hating and hate loving are always interesting.

[raven stone]

Looks at the XCom Vipers and people gooning over those

[queen laurel]

well he does have his lovely pet

[summer mural]

where?

xcom vipers gimme

[queen laurel]

until you know that happened

not gonna spoil

[hallow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/xcom-hop-on-gif-26943695

[astral burrow]

Time to actually mechanicus

[summer mural]

yeah your in for some pain

[outer wave]

One of these days, I should give GFL 2 a whirl

Just to see how good/bad it is, then move on

[winter vessel]

haven't gotten to this part yet in the campaign, but damn did the gameplay look fun on demos

[raven stone]

99% hit chance with a yellow enemy icon no less

[summer mural]

what on earth is gfl 2

[sour hornet]

I distinctly remember skinning those women and making their pelts into armor for my boys and girls. Wild how times change lmao.

[sour hornet]

Girls' Frontline 2

[summer mural]

..

[outer wave]

Girls Frontline 2, basically an Xcom-esque turn based shooter thats a gacha

[winter vessel]

grape flavored lollipop

[summer mural]

really?

[raven stone]

Guns as anime girls

Yes

[outer wave]

Yep

[sour hornet]

Indeed

[summer mural]

ITS AN XCOM STYLE SHOOTER?

[outer wave]

Yep

[summer mural]

is it..balanced?

[outer wave]

I got no idea

Maybe

[queen laurel]

Yeah at this point I'm pretty sure everyone knows it I'm talking about his dragon of course

[hallow plover]

Just play it

At worst you'll goon

[sour hornet]

😭 😭

[summer mural]

the only gacha I played was genshin impact and I liked that except for the insane urge I had to spend an insane amount of money for pointless shit

[winter vessel]

such a good boy.

[raven stone]

Wait wait wait GFL2 is Xcom styled!?

I always thought it was a cheap mobile game...

[queen laurel]

that explains a lot really

like a lot

[outer wave]

That's GFL 1, which was a mobile game

This is kind of is/kind of isnt a mobile game? It at least has a PC port

[queen laurel]

yep just screams pure hell yeah

[outer wave]

I played GFL 1 for a couple years

[sour hornet]

Mobile game, not cheap, pulled in hundreds of millions.

[outer wave]

T'was a good time

[queen laurel]

oh yeah his actual name is Serrat

[summer mural]

like what?

[raven stone]

Discipline yourself to not always want the latest new character. Then you can gather enough freemogems for the ones you DO want...

[summer mural]

no

[queen laurel]

every time you have a gooning burst

[summer mural]

idc about genshin lol

[queen laurel]

like literally every time

[vagrant fox]

It is FAL friday too

[summer mural]

i only say that to you because ive got a crush on your mom lol

[winter vessel]

think the first mobile game i played was Zombie Smash on the first generation IPAD. anyone here remember that one?

[outer wave]

From what I heard, GFL 2 unfortunately has the genshin-style gacha, where weapons are in the loot pool with characters

So uh yeah

That kinda blows

[queen laurel]

aight as long as you have a crush on her you support trump

[summer mural]

[raven stone]

The real question is how critical are those weapons

[summer mural]

Not the TRUMP

card

[raven stone]

Are they like "you cannot proceed without them" weapons

Or just gimmicky things

[outer wave]

No clue

I just heard that from a friend

[raven stone]

Fair enough

[outer wave]

PATA-PATA-PATAPON

[raven stone]

Huh what's that

[outer wave]

Patapon

[winter vessel]

the game where you can groove to the beat and lead a tribe of cyclops warriors

[queen laurel]

yeah it's a rhythm game

[summer mural]

is that a gacha game too?

[queen laurel]

A very old one that

[winter vessel]

no. Rhythm game, but damn was it a vibe going into FEVER mode

[outer wave]

Nah its not gacha

[summer mural]

sounds fun tbh

[queen laurel]

From 2007 in fact

[outer wave]

Its a pretty old game

Mhm

[winter vessel]

then there was two,

[sacred ginkgo]

PSP/Vita title wasn’t it?

[winter vessel]

indeed

[sacred ginkgo]

Extra obscure

[summer mural]

ngl this gacha talk really helped me forget andor ripped my soul apart

now im back to it 😭

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh my gods andor goes so fucking hard

[winter vessel]

and then it ended with 3. but man 3's intro and main menu theme did not have to go that hard

[summer mural]

try to avoid spoilers, still pretty fresh

[sacred ginkgo]

Watched episodes 7-11 of s2 last night

Episode ||8|| probably holds the title for most violent scene in Star Wars now

[summer mural]

its great

[winter vessel]

well executed i must say.

[summer mural]

this show has dialogue like " Tell me It's a rumour again and Il throw you out that window" damn sw going HARD

[winter vessel]

Andor really brings out the "Sometimes when you need to win, you gotta fight dirty."

and boy there is a lot of that

[summer mural]

also andor just becoming a true genuine hero at his core is so well done

theres no fanfare or parading

he just is

hes always relucant but always gets back into it

man never gave up

[sacred ginkgo]

Also

K2SO!!!!!!!

My beloved

[summer mural]

yeah fr

[winter vessel]

he is the archetype of becoming a hero through necessity, not from being like chosen or has that idealism by heart.

circumstances lead to his path

[summer mural]

its more realistic tbh, by far

because he has to make genuine sacrifices

and hes always just like having the most normal thought of like " I just wanna chill with my girl goddamn it"

[winter vessel]

this season really delves further into Mon Mothma's choices as well

[summer mural]

I liked the screentime bail got too

its nice he had opinions on the rebellion

and wasnt just down with whatever

[crystal forum]

which rebellion is this one

[summer mural]

the og one

[crystal forum]

the fourth

[summer mural]

before ep4

[crystal forum]

oh the canon second or smth

[summer mural]

this is the only one that matters 😄

[sacred ginkgo]

The one that works

[winter vessel]

i do miss Jimmy Smits role, but since it was brief and they had Benjamin Bratt recast as Organa in the Andor series, it wasn't that big of a deal for me

[sacred ginkgo]

Wasn’t it a schedule conflict

[summer mural]

jimmy smitts is a big dude, I just realized that after seeing bratt as bail

like smitts looks absolutely massive

by comparison

[winter vessel]

yes

but i think Benjamin did okay

[summer mural]

they should give everything to tony gilroy tbh

he wrote rogue one too

the man takes his sw seriously

[crystal forum]

no they should give the franchise to the guy who did 8

[summer mural]

there is no 8

[crystal forum]

123
456
789

[winter vessel]

i have to say what they did with Syril Karn in S2 changed my opinions of him from S1

[crystal forum]

prequels, main, sequels

the worst of the sequels

[summer mural]

there is no sw move after 6, i dunno what you're on about

except rogue one

[crystal forum]

i wish i had your amnesia potion

[rocky gale]

[winter vessel]

for me that was a one time use, that justifiably was used for Pacific Rim's lesser successor

[summer mural]

well , he had good intentions, and deserved everything that happened

[crystal forum]

it has sequels?

genuinely didn't know

[winter vessel]

yeah it just caught me off guard with episode 8 i legitmately went "oh...WOW"

[summer mural]

theres a nice summary of karns character online somewhere about basically everything that happened to him from ep1 and it really shows how badly he got caught up in everything couldnt let it go

like andor literally started with andor killing 2 cops

[crystal forum]

i didn't watch the show and he looks like the guy from the robot game with the mister crabs voice actor

also i wish ties were cool like that

[summer mural]

also I dunno if you caught that easter egg about rebellions being built on hope

[winter vessel]

he looks like an offshoot of Rob Lowe

[rocky gale]

Yea like from Syril's perspective ||until Season 2 episode 8||, he was fully convinced he was the good guy, doing the right thing to help the good guys win.

He's a bit of a short sighted idealist who fully believes the propaganda about Imperial Law and Order is for the best

[summer mural]

||also that scene of andor watering the plants before going going to the intro of rogue one, like he'd be back||

😭

😭 😭 😭

[crystal forum]

wait so this is tied to rogue one

i liked that movie but doesn't he die at the end of it

[summer mural]

this ends with andor going on his mission where we see him in rogue one

and yes

he dies

[rocky gale]

It's a prequel

[summer mural]

in rogue one

[crystal forum]

so this is the final swason

[rocky gale]

Yep

[summer mural]

yeah

andor was always going to be 2 seasons

[rocky gale]

Really?

[summer mural]

you can think of it as a trilogy if you count rogue one

[rocky gale]

I heard it was supposed to be 5 seasons, but Disney didn't think it could keep the momentum

[summer mural]

yeah afaik they planned two right from the start, thats why s2 ends with all the loose ends getting tied fairly neatly

[crystal forum]

rogue one style 40k movie with like penal legion guys

[winter vessel]

honestly this series and its connection with Rogue One truly shine as the diamonds in the rough with how disorganized SW is as a larger scale. Well done Tony Gilroy

[rocky gale]

Na I was right, it was originally envisioned as 5 seasons, but Disney didn't support the idea so it was reduced to two during the production of the first season

[crystal forum]

reminder that the director of 8 had only made a hit indie movie prior

[summer mural]

well, its over now

[crystal forum]

disney corporate is ass

[summer mural]

hes a good filmmaker, he also made knives out, i blame disney for approving that script

[rocky gale]

Like Season 1 takes place over the course of a year and each of the following seasons would have followed the same, being a year. But Disney say no so Season 2 gets 4 years broken down into 3 episode arcs

[winter vessel]

i still remember that whole lawsuit a guy made where his wife died to a food allergy but Corporate argued they couldn't be sued because he had a Disney+ subscription agreement. like, really? that's the card you're putting down first?

[summer mural]

its pretty sad we aint getting anything like andor again in a long time I imagine

[winter vessel]

agreed

[rocky gale]

and Disney killed Acolyte after a single season, so no more of that

[summer mural]

good

deserved

[rocky gale]

Oh I thought I was talking to someone with taste

[winter vessel]

remember that song they made to attack viewers who disagreed with the series?

[astral burrow]

I died to agrolekh...

Hi larmoth

[summer mural]

yeah that happens

you need to run away from him and shoot him alternately, his armor type changes

and you actually can kill him with your squad

[astral burrow]

Disney hates money I swear

[summer mural]

but its not necessary or anything

[astral burrow]

5 seasons of andor is peak

[rocky gale]

They'll cover the content from the lost seasons in an animated short series called Tales of the Andor

[summer mural]

i even thought the obi wan show was going to be about obi wan in his youth or with quigon instead of post ep 3

[rocky gale]

Kenobi was rough

[summer mural]

yeah i didnt like it much ngl

i felt it had like..one or two great moments and the rest was just 💤

[astral burrow]

How they fumbled Kenobi is beyond me

[rocky gale]

It was like what 6 episodes?

[winter vessel]

my romantic side was hoping they'd go into his and Qui-gon's mission to Mandalore where he first meets Satine Kryze

[rocky gale]

It could have been done in 2

[summer mural]

yeah kenobi has so much backstory potential

[rocky gale]

Like genuinely remove 90% of what they did, cut it down to two episodes and you've got something decent

[summer mural]

instead they go with tatooine, like who watches sw and hasnt gotten enough TATOOINE

[crystal forum]

see the shitty part is it worked. it was bad PR for disney but they had to keep it legally clear that that is still something they can do. it's completely messed up but disney isn't the only one doing this shit

[summer mural]

😭

[storm jungle]

😭

[summer mural]

stop, im still emotionally in pain 😭

[rocky gale]

Hey, they escaped that prison in the end

[winter vessel]

I think the only thing i liked was the attention given to Owen and Beru. they genuinely did love Luke. and, it was justifiable for Owen to hate Obi Wan because he only has seen what being a Jedi will lead to.

[plush mason]

ah tatooine and its 500 million clones

[storm jungle]

I made it worse by rewatching Rogue One the moment I finished Andor, I actually cried even more.

[summer mural]

SAME

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cassian-andor-jyn-erso-rogue-one-die-explosion-gif-7384079

[summer mural]

I OPENED ROGUE ONE AS SOON AS ANDOR ENDED

I HAD TO

😭

[storm jungle]

Its AMAZING how well it synchs

[summer mural]

yep

[storm jungle]

Gilroy wasnt kidding when he said he made sure everything fits between the show/movie transition

[winter vessel]

honestly give me a band of brothers like series with the Rebel Pathfinders. I'd pay good money to watch that

[summer mural]

also I realized that easter egg when watching rogue one, andor has a biggish moment when he tells jyn " rebellions are built on hope" and she repeats it later on, but he got that line from a BELLBOY IN GHORMAN

[shadow plover]

Andor was kino

[storm jungle]

the battle on scarfif is PEAK

Literally the only moment in star wars I think where I actually bawled when someone said "May the Force be with you"

[astral burrow]

Mechanicus isn't as fun as rogue trader yet

[summer mural]

its not

mechanicus is much more barebones, its still great though

[rocky gale]

Based bellhop, shares traumatic memories of massacre with a curious stranger, doesn't rat him out to ISB, gives him a cool catchphrase, then throws a grenade at the police

[summer mural]

rogue trader is like a massive rpg

[astral burrow]

I like it when there is actual stakes and losses

[winter vessel]

that rebel door gunner was like "yep. i love my job." https://tenor.com/view/full-metal-jacket-get-some-door-gunner-vietnam-war-shooting-gif-14754393188104690097

[astral burrow]

Literally no one from battle of scarif survived

It was reach of star wars

[summer mural]

also andor was absolutely horrifying, and it had 0 vader and palps

or death troopers

iirc

[astral burrow]

They even glassed the planet

[rocky gale]

Also love how Andor reconciled the Legends Ghorman Massacre with the Canon one by making them both canon

[storm jungle]

Bro was fucking howling like a monkey and gunning down imperials, absolute monke-chad

[astral burrow]

Fuck force stuff loved rogue one for that too

[winter vessel]

and i like it because. even a good SW story can be told without the involvement of the Sith or Jedi being its focal point

[summer mural]

clearly, yep

[astral burrow]

Andors prison break is still peak

[storm jungle]

My eyes widened when Mon name-dropped Palpatine as a tyrant on the senate speech.

I was like "Yeah they are gonna kill her", I know she wasnt gonna die but that alone tells you how good they made figures like him as a looming presence over the entire thing.

[summer mural]

"i cant swim"

[storm jungle]

"I can't swim..."