40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

no

[rose thorn]

Like

https://preview.redd.it/joytoy-grey-knights-hand-change-v0-7w2t685w5vib1.jpg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c474d500cf8d3f5ebe2cf54b10a6eaecc8b885ae

Not mine btw

Let me check if the termites are taller than primaris

[vagrant fox]

Are those joytoys any good

[crystal forum]

if you like oversized action figures

[vagrant fox]

Nah

[rose thorn]

TERMIES ARE SO SHORT

[vagrant fox]

I just want some warhams merch or commission some ocs, I'm indecisive

[astral burrow]

meh, doesnt hurt anyone.

[rose thorn]

[astral burrow]

got my first non combat kill, that will taint my run forever

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if the Grey Knights will get more stuff this year.

Also, is the faction called Gray knights over in the states?

[storm jungle]

If jay is rude just be rude back to him, he deserves it

[vagrant fox]

Eventually, sometime after the most based and blessed Black Templars

[storm jungle]

but

they already got an update

did you guys miss it?

[vagrant fox]

I do not acknowledge the babycarrier

[astral burrow]

i dont particularly care really

[storm jungle]

Why not.

[astral burrow]

it is 3 am i been doing nothing but exploring the lower levels for like an hour

i am tired as shit

[storm jungle]

[nocturne crest]

Yes. They could have done more to make it better.

[storm jungle]

Best they can do

😔

[astral burrow]

say, if i watch lore videos

will i potentially spoil some books i might wanna read in the future?

[vagrant fox]

When the new factory opens and pollutes the planet to make more plastic mans the GK might get a new sprue

[storm jungle]

Depends on the loretuber

but considering the big stake books they spoil you wont miss much

[vagrant fox]

Some at least warn about spoilers

[astral burrow]

i see

idek if i wanna read any of the books rn lol

[storm jungle]

just watch Arbitrator Ian!!!!

[astral burrow]

wouldnt mean much since i dont know what book stherea re to begin with

[astral burrow]

will do yeah

in my list

[storm jungle]

Bookclub pins should help

[astral burrow]

but i do wanna read at least some books

sweet

[storm jungle]

Yeah just pick ones from there or ask in the channel

[astral burrow]

i dont think i wanna do that

[storm jungle]

coward

[nocturne crest]

Should just give the GK Contemptor Dreadnoughts.

[astral burrow]

i regret the 1 dollar i spent on this dlc

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/james-james-sunderland-silent-hill-silent-hill-2-hole-gif-7378406227887333803

[astral burrow]

season pass was cheaper than the dlc itself by a long shot lmao

[storm jungle]

oh my god

its a good DLC

stop WHINING

WHINGE WHINGE WHINGE

[astral burrow]

kibellah is the bane of my existence

she is so LAME

[storm jungle]

Shes based as fuck

stop having no taste

fucking fishloving ass

[astral burrow]

i hope the other dlc will have a better companion

[storm jungle]

Im gonna send kibellah to cut your toes at night

[rose thorn]

GW needs to just say if GKs are getttunh an update or not

[astral burrow]

cant a man just love a beautiful white haired noble who likes to draw

[storm jungle]

not on my watch

[vagrant fox]

Artists are nerds who should be bullied

[nocturne crest]

Honestly, would the dreadknight look better if the GK pilot had their legs closer together?

[vagrant fox]

I ought to find one for commissions though

[nocturne crest]

From an "A" leg position to a "11"

[crystal forum]

that's just grey knights not having been refreshed since before primaris

[vagrant fox]

For me, dreadknights and centurions need to be totally changed to look good

[storm jungle]

YES, ME!

[astral burrow]

i depicted myself as the innocent child having fun

and you as the wojak

i win

[storm jungle]

thats not a wojak!!!

[nocturne crest]

The Grey knight models are over 10 years old.

[astral burrow]

just as insulting

huh, i lived

nice

[nocturne crest]

I know what's going to happen.

[astral burrow]

i dont

[nocturne crest]

They'll make a Grey Knights Kill-team.

[astral burrow]

i am excited

i want combat already

[storm jungle]

kill the homeless people NOW

[vagrant fox]

The rumour engine shoe is grey knights

[nocturne crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_4J4uor3JE

[astral burrow]

nah

it is my duty to take care of these people

in the grim dark world of the far future, there is only kindness and joy

[distant marsh]

Is this roguetrader?

[young pecan]

That was bait to out you as even knowing what a wojak is

Hook line and sinker

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-meme-steam-tg-bratishkin-gif-274347585508037432

[astral burrow]

damn it i became a death cultist?

didnt even get an option smh

[astral burrow]

yes

oh got the rash cured by ||praying||

crazy

[distant marsh]

How would you rate that game from 1 to 10 and can I fashion my units however I like?

[astral burrow]

the armors show up on them

and you can build them yeah

but you cant change your own looks later without mods

party size is huge too

[young pecan]

It's six people right?

[astral burrow]

back on the bridge, yay

[astral burrow]

i think u can have every single companion possible

[plush mason]

6 active party slots

[astral burrow]

i have 6 people rn

will switch a few eventually

well 6 including me

alright, gave orders, hope the situation of the compartment gets better

[rose thorn]

Tbh I wish centurions were in greyknights

[astral burrow]

god, i cant move between 2 planets without getting a side mission smh

damn i liked this man but he kinda sucks (rogue trader)

[storm jungle]

Abelard is an awful person

he refers to lower deck people as "subhuman"

[astral burrow]

yeah

i kinda wanna kill his ass

someone from 40k meets a decent human being for once and are flabbergasted

[outer wave]

Abelard is my bro, and as they say: bros before hoes

Kill all the lower deck people

[plush mason]

whats funny is he is iconoglast

[astral burrow]

he is worse than dogmatic

[plush mason]

so he is actually a decent dude as far as the imperium goes

[astral burrow]

i will show him what decent is

i am buying everything my profit factor allows me

[plush mason]

yes always do that

[astral burrow]

sold everythig to the fellowship lol

should have saved some for future factions now that i think

but meh

how the hell does a sister of battle NOT have heavy armor proficiency

so silly

[astral burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-orange-cat-orange-cats-cat-weird-gif-17010424884748616697

i have so much to teach her

[storm jungle]

shes perfect the way she is

[astral burrow]

i am gonna teach her about human decency!

and how to be a chill guy with no enemies

oh no a person on this planet wants me to tell her about a person on another planet

guess i am going back

to the rykad minoris i go

btw should i sell the sisters bolter?

she really called a random soldier "peasant"

[rose thorn]

Hey which AOS army should I finish next KO, Fyreslayers, khrone, or Sylvaneth, all of these I have at about 1k

Gitz, skaven, and tzeentch are off the table since they are pretty expensive compared to the others

[outer wave]

Giants?

Forgot their AoS name

[rose thorn]

Sons of behemoth, I ahve 0 points in those lmao

[outer wave]

Oh you said finish, not start my bad

[rose thorn]

It’s good

[outer wave]

Which is your oldest army?

[rose thorn]

Not counting stormcasts and kruleboyz?

[outer wave]

Mhm

[rose thorn]

Khrone weirdly

I have alot of them and I don’t know why

[vagrant fox]

Lumineth sweep

[rose thorn]

That army is so cheap rn lmao

It’s really up there for cheap armies

[young pecan]

Pretty sure he gets a lot better when you treat your crew as human beings

[rose thorn]

It’s everywhere on eBay

[young pecan]

At least from what I remember

[outer wave]

Why not finish them up?

[rose thorn]

I just need to buy the new spearhead, their terrian endless spells, and the demons boarding patrol

[outer wave]

Not too expensive, are they?

[rose thorn]

I’d have like,,, 1.5k of demons and of humans

[rose thorn]

They are the 3rd cheapest army in the game

[outer wave]

Nice

[rose thorn]

Night haunt is #1 because all their stuff got nerfed

[outer wave]

Oooof

[rose thorn]

It’s. Good because it’s the most noob friendly army in the game

[outer wave]

Mmm I see I see

[opaque coyote]

Y'know I've always thought that maybe they could recreate the Emperor via the Shaman trial

But I'm thinking that

If it's still canon

The Shaman Trial was probably only a thing that made a perpetual

Not necessarily an Emperor tier being

Just somebody who can respawn basically

[outer wave]

Making Emperor-lite clones the same way Trench Crusade has Meta-Christs

[opaque coyote]

Basically I like to think that the Emperor basically had to grind for his power

And that he just started off as just some dude

[astral burrow]

in rogue trader

are shotguns considered area attacks

[opaque coyote]

Who had some vague memories of a past life whenever he got "recreated"

[rose thorn]

Wiay

Sorry I just noticed how raging racist that is

[opaque coyote]

Basically I like to think that for a while he basically was just

Normal for a bit

Until around Alexander the Great when he realized

"Holy shit. I'm actually immortal!"

Went crazy with said conquering

""died""

And then respawn realizing

"Yeah I probably shouldn't do that again."

[opaque coyote]

Also you ever think a lot of perpetuals back then had like

A club

[rose thorn]

What’s his name form invincible

Ll

[opaque coyote]

Kinda similar to things like the Illuminati but they spend 95% of their meetings

[rose thorn]

Mr immortal

[opaque coyote]

Smoking weed or something

And only 5% of it actually doing what conspiracy theorists expect

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Immortal being Abraham Lincoln is kinda awkward

Considering that he didn't stop Jim Crow

[rose thorn]

I THOGUHT IT WAS SO FUNNY

THERES A CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT ABRAHAMA LINCON FAKED HIS OWN DEATH SO HE CAN LIVE WITH HIS GAY LOVER

[opaque coyote]

Although I also think it's implied that the Immortal grew more powerful as time went on.

Which is probably why he only started being a superhero around like

The 1900s

[rose thorn]

Maybe he wanted to dodge people who recognize him as Abraham Lincoln

[opaque coyote]

Which would

Basically be everyone

But yeah if you also had superpowers like flying

Super strength

Etc.

Then I'm pretty sure the Immortal would've had more of an effect

[rose thorn]

After JFK was killed everyone thoguht every hot guy was jfk and now that’s like

Not a thing

[crystal forum]

that is possibly the wildest sentence i have seen while coming back to this channel

[arctic talon]

Yes

[arctic talon]

Sylvaneth

Reasoning; I like the trees

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/mrj26xJr8-8?si=4LEZgmk-InZGKvJC

Based on this image apparently

[opaque coyote]

I think the funniest part is the implication that the Ogryns accent and lack of proper Grammar just..

Cannot be lobotomized/"programmed" out

[lofty mason]

Would Plasteel and Ceramite be useful in real life, and do we have anything that are close to those two?

[celest dome]

Both would be good construction materials

Plasteel more than Ceramite though.
Just Steelw with plastic proprieties, light, easy to form, good resistance when set...

And as its not plastic, no microplastics in your lungs and balls

[languid meadow]

You'll take my microplastics from my cold dead hands

[celest dome]

More like cold dead balls

[astral burrow]

Morning

[queen laurel]

Morning

[astral burrow]

Hi hi

What a lovely day to appreciate cassia

[dapper gyro]

We have those already.

Stapling steel plates are pretty much plasteel. With the level of protection provided from the fluff, it doesn't need to be any "uber" steel.

Ceramite is like the 40k fancy name for metal based ceramic. The tungsten carbide, Silicon carbide, boron carbide and many other stuff are already being used as weapons and/or protective equipment like body armour.

[astral burrow]

Forgot how funny the Hitler scene in Wolfenstein 2 is

Is he supposed to even be that old?

How old would he be in 1961?

"I am from Arizona"

[median star]

72

not the most graceful ageing

[astral burrow]

20 years older than blazkowicz

You would think with their current technology they could afford the best health for him and not get him to look like a senile old man peeing on the floor

[storm jungle]

Hes too paranoid.

He probably didnt want it lol

[astral burrow]

True

Wow that second actor who played the part actually did great

He looks like blazkowicz too lmao

Blazko riding a tricycle lmao

Hitler shooting people all willy nilly is killing me lmao

God they made him hilarious it is funny

And despicable

Hope we get to kill him

[hallow basin]

I find that scene to be the equivalent of those caricatures of Hitler from the 40s, but instead of being funny it's just awkward

[astral burrow]

It is both

[storm jungle]

Its pretty much intentional tbh.

its largely to ridicule him as a senile old man

[arctic talon]

He’s a drug addict as well

Hitler was on a lot of shit

[queen laurel]

How is a guy like him even capable of like being that powerful during the war

You're telling me this high bumbling buffoon was able to command a powerful army?

[celest dome]

Hitler was on all the shit they had

[celest dome]

They had generals and officery that wasn't bad, and could work without too much oversight

[queen laurel]

Ah yes the classic good old method

let the subordinates do all the work

[raven stone]

Sadly nowhere in the New Wolfenstein do we get to kill him

[astral burrow]

In youngblood that one woman does tell blazkowiczs daughters that "you are the daughters of the man who killed Hitler"

[raven stone]

I mean, Hitler started out alright, then made increasingly bad decisions as the real life WW2 went on. So I am not surprised at the senility possibility presented to us.

[raven stone]

True, but we the players never get to do the deed :p

[astral burrow]

That sucks

Killing Hitler off screen is crazy

[raven stone]

Eh, not as stupid as my recent decision to infect myself with the heretek scrapcode...

....

...known as League of Legeneds Wild Rift :p.

No, I am not a sweaty rank climber

But I still find the casual PVP fun

[storm jungle]

Youngblood is hated for a lot of good reasons, that was just one of them. Shit game.

[astral burrow]

Did one mission

Was enough to hate it

[astral burrow]

Miles better than pc league

Short, portable, looks better

Time for the last mission of new colossus I suppose

[storm jungle]

Un crappe

[raven stone]

Heh, I suppose the lack of chat trolling helps.

Since you seem to know a bit - I am currently addicted to Seraphine shield spam...

[astral burrow]

Very

[astral burrow]

I only played Jax

But got boring

[raven stone]

Started with Lux, switched to Seraphine. Miss Fortune if I get dropped into 3rd choice Dragon (Support/Mid/Dragon my preferred 3).

Yes I got into it for thr Star Guardian skins :p

Can't be bothered to Baron or Jungle unless forced by game assignment

(Or teammate asks to swap, which in casual matches...it's casual)

[astral burrow]

Jax is peak

Simple and cool

[astral burrow]

Odin down let's goooo

[tough haven]

Accurate

[astral burrow]

Who is sanguinius

And why is he the emperor

[raven stone]

Yea, that moment was pretty much Lionel going literal Cowboy Cop in Macragge area

[rocky gale]

I started on Lux because that's what the game recommended, but switched to Morgana and had much more fun

[rocky gale]

Sanguinius is Primarch of the Blood Angels, there was a period during the Horus Heresy where the Warp was storming causing Guilliman and Sanguinius to be cut off from Terra and they could only assume Horus had conquered it. So they proclaimed a new Empire with Sanguinius at it's head.

[raven stone]

Lux is as iconic to LoL/WR as Space Marines are to GW...and her kit is easy to learn.

But yea, once you find out your personal style it makes more sense to move away from her.

That and apparently Lux is often chosen to be banned in the higher rank anyways.

[tough haven]

10 foot tall space marine vampire Jesus

Not joking

Look up an image of this mf

[tough haven]

The imperium will be like “we can tolerate no warp corruption” when looking at Magnus, but sure, this guy’s perfectly ok

Not deviated from the human form at all

[rocky gale]

He's an angel

Get dunked on nerdgron

[astral burrow]

Wow thats goofy

[rocky gale]

Not really, they thought the war was lost and were basically planning to rebuild in their corner of the galaxy and since Sanguinius was literally an Angel he was chosen as the Regent to rule as the figurehead

[astral burrow]

What happened when they regained connection?

Did he step down easily?

[rocky gale]

They pretty much realised the war was ongoing and rushed to help

[astral burrow]

What did the emperor think of that?

[rocky gale]

Sanguinius basically ended up leading the defence at the Siege of Terra

Well not leading, but holding the line

[astral burrow]

Literal angels exist huh

[rocky gale]

He was a mutant who developed wings, but he was also a son of the Emperor, so yea he was seen as an Angel rather than a Mutant

[queen laurel]

well yeah have you seen Living Saints?

[rocky gale]

Oh yea there are also living Saints as well

[astral burrow]

God damn

[astral burrow]

Dual standards go crazy

[rocky gale]

It helps that he was a total Chad

[astral burrow]

Navigators and this

So many exceptions smh

[queen laurel]

Kill the mutant except when we really need them and they help us

[astral burrow]

And when they are pretty as hell

[spare osprey]

Kill the really ugly homeless mutant and indenture the kinda iffy useful mutant

[rocky gale]

Yea, the Empire are massive hypocrites

As is the Emperor

[astral burrow]

Hate him

[spare osprey]

Imperium*

We’re “different”

We have BETTER racism

[astral burrow]

We have space marines

And space marines

[raven stone]

Hang on dumb question

What was the plot excuse used to rapidly move Sanguinius and his legion back to Terra quickly

When Guilliman and Lion had to arrive late?

[plush mason]

warpstorms iirc

[spare osprey]

Lion and G man cleared a passage for sangy to get there

So they weren’t impeded by the ruinstorm

Gman tried to make his way to Terra despite it iirc

Lion just went around killing shit, not trying to go to Terra

[plush mason]

wasnt it Russ that was leading the reinforcement fleet to Terra?

[nocturne crest]

I thought it was Gulliman, Russ and the Lion?

[plush mason]

yeah 3 seperate fleets i think

[raven stone]

Russ did a weird thing where he actually left Terra to confront Horus early before he could arrive Sol System

[nocturne crest]

I know it was Sanguinus, Dorn, Khan and Vulkan on Terra.

Ferrus was dead.

Not sure where Corax was.

[raven stone]

That is correct, though Vulkan did not have his legion with him.

Corax was also running around killing Traitors

[nocturne crest]

On Terra or in space?

[plush mason]

thats a very Russ sounding thing to do

and it worked about as well as you can expect

[raven stone]

Sadly Corax never made it to Terra

[nocturne crest]

Time for an AU where Corax killed Horus

[raven stone]

Indeed. Had his backside handed to him and THEN had to try to reach Terra again.

Though TBF IIRC Russ had some other secret mission where Emps also gave him a special spear or something that can purge the corruption out of Horus or whatnot.

So that mission isn't entirely unreasonable.

(Yes this spear will eventually be remembered as the Spear of Russ)

[dapper gyro]

Wasn't Vulkan captured?

Corax legion is so shattered that he can't go head on combat, which limited his option to go to terra. They were also dealing with Apha legion.

[tough haven]

Didn’t it like kinda enable him to be killed?

[plush mason]

exactly what i meant

it worked, kinda

[raven stone]

Vulcan managed to free himself despite Konrad's efforts to break him

[rocky gale]

Oh damn, Cities finally gettin an ability to buff having a mixed unit army

[raven stone]

Huh

GW actually realising mixed armies need mixed buff rules

[queen laurel]

They also got some very nice

Artillery buffs

[raven stone]

looks in copium fuelled hunger for Imperial Agents

[rocky gale]

Na, only AoS gets good rules and models nowadays

[rocky gale]

[nocturne crest]

He has by the thing that would blow up terra.

[spare osprey]

And then he joined up with Lion to destroy Morty’s homeworld

[astral burrow]

Is would just health?

Wound

[astral burrow]

Second one got them Wolfenstein legs

[spare osprey]

Mhm

You lose a wound per point of damage

[astral burrow]

Naming everything smth fancy smh

[rose thorn]

fr, it feels like them and the griffon might not die this edition

ppl in teh r/aos server seem really appy with the sign of the future

[queen laurel]

I hope to God the kruleboyz get something really good

They need it man

[rose thorn]

it sjust a fundimental problem with the army

but yeah im rpetty sure i can guess who is getting a new warscroll

[rocky gale]

Kruleboyz are tomorrow right?

[queen laurel]

Gobsprakk?

[rocky gale]

Hopefully it's good

[queen laurel]

yes

[rocky gale]

Wait..

[rose thorn]

hes good

[queen laurel]

they are the only faction that were really related to swamps

[queen laurel]

so what is it then

[rose thorn]

its probbaly murknob, killaboss on gnashtoof, killaboss, hobgrots

those are all like on the list

if we get a hobgrot battleformation ill be hte happest person in teh world

the gimmick regiiment is almost good

[rocky gale]

Only just noticed they changed the weapon profile for the Freeguild Cavaliers as well

1 less attack but hit on 3+ instead of 4+

[arctic talon]

Huh

Interesting

I’m ngl the ghyran version looks better

[queen laurel]

they got some good things

[arctic talon]

I’ve seen the stuff

I just haven’t been paying super close attention to the sheets tbh

All I know is that nighthaunt players were pogging out over their sheets

[rocky gale]

Weren't nighhaunt pogging anyway

With their 98% winrate or whatever it was

[astral burrow]

God rules are so much

[arctic talon]

Well they got nerfed down a bit, but yeah the army isn’t as broken now. The new black coach rules are apparently really cool

And olyander’s husband got turned into a smashy character

For his variant sheet

[queen laurel]

5 attack that hits on threes

Wounds on threes

has rend 2

and has three damage

[arctic talon]

They don’t even call olynder his wife in the warscroll lmao

[queen laurel]

I pray to God anyone who gets hit with this

[arctic talon]

Though I suppose neither of them are a fan of the fact they’re married

[queen laurel]

Didn't literally the reason they got married because

nagash did the big funny and found it funny

[arctic talon]

Yes

Nagash made them

[queen laurel]

such as his morality

he doesn't have one

[arctic talon]

Such is the power of nagash

[rocky gale]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wy2pxyu4/sunday-preview-sorcerous-space-marines-and-forest-sentinels/

[arctic talon]

No he does have morality, it’s called whatever benefits him best

[arctic talon]

LETS GOOOOOOO

[rocky gale]

Thank god the Combat Patrol still has Tzaangors in it, I was getting worried

[arctic talon]

At least it’s only 4 tzaangors

[queen laurel]

yeah uh

[arctic talon]

Frogge

[queen laurel]

i'm picking the right

100% of the time

[arctic talon]

Tzaangor enlightened are actually good

Lol

Normal tzaangors have uh

Utility I guess

[queen laurel]

oh yeah these poor sods got turned into a frog

it's a spell that allows you to turn them into a frog

[queen laurel]

imagine being a powerful chaos wizard and getting frogged

[raven stone]

The funny things is this can happen to any spellcasters…

So Orc Shamans, High Elves, Grail Damsels, Chaos Wizards, Skaven etc. etc.

I suppose for Lizardmen it is kind of worse? It’s like a de-evolution.

[astral burrow]

Gonna start fallout 4

[arctic talon]

Chaos knight reveals next week

[outer wave]

If you could make Tzaangors more interesting and worth running, what would you do?

[arctic talon]

They’re literally just cultists kind of a damned if you do damned if you don’t thing

[outer wave]

How do you mean exactly?

You think getting rid of them would just be stripping chaos players of cultist options? That's pretty true, but let's assume that you couldn't get rid of Tzaangors in this hypothetical.

But you had to spice them up in some way, shape, or form

What would you do?

[rocky gale]

Dunno, I don't care about Thousand Sons

[outer wave]

Ah fair

[rocky gale]

But the problem with Tzaangors isn't really a problem with Tzaangors, it's that the rest of the Ksons range is rather limited

You fix it by giving them other units to run instead of needing Tzaangors

[outer wave]

Could be nice to see actual dedicated human cultists to mix it up a little bit

Or I guess an updated line of Rubrics, but I don't think they look awful

Rubric Helbrute/Dreads would be very cool

[rocky gale]

Like this is their complete roster, most of them are generic Chaos units with the word Thousand Sons infront of it

[outer wave]

Yeah a large chunk of them are pretty generic

[rocky gale]

Their Faction unique non HQ units are bassicaly Rubric, Tzaangors, Scrab Terms and Enlightened Tzaangor

[astral burrow]

Fallout 4 is... interesting so far

[rocky gale]

So half their non HQ units are Tzaangors

[astral burrow]

Having the player actually talk is a nice change for once

Was tired of silent protags lol

[outer wave]

Considering they got those rubric robots coming in soon, maybe they could take a page out of the Tomb Kings and add a couple more warp-powered mechanical constructs

Not Daemon engines might you, basically big warp powered robots made in a collab with Here-teks

[rocky gale]

Chaos Spawn and mutants could be expanded on for Thousand Sons

[arctic talon]

Nothing tbh, tzaangors fulfill their roll

Of being tsons cultists

The mortal followers and hanger ons

[outer wave]

More mutated units would go hard

[arctic talon]

The cult of mutation is literally a thing

In the tsons lol

[outer wave]

I know they are

[arctic talon]

Shame they’re not really represented

[outer wave]

Just you don't see it enough on the table-exactly!!

These guys would absolutely experiment on fellas and make weird new lifeforms

[arctic talon]

Tsons just need more, they’re the oldest cult legion range and they’re the second least complete

Lol

[outer wave]

Yeaaah

I still think the look of the Helbrute in SM2 seems off, and I absolutely blame GW for that one lmao

I NEED MORE FREAKS IN MY BLUE FREAKS ARMY

[outer wave]

Lore question: beasts of nurgle basically become bitter because everything they touch turns to shit in a literal sense, right? Don't they play and frolick with each other, nurglings, GUOs, etc? Are they simply neglected by them?

[nocturne crest]

If you could the TS two unique units/vehicles/characters, is there anything you think that could work?

[celest dome]

They do play with each other and with nurglings, but Plaguebearers aren't known to play

And there aren't as many GUO as Beasts

[outer wave]

I get plaguebearers not being able to do much due to their rigorous counting, but I almost feel they need an actual caretaker

Could be a fun character that specializes in beasts of nurgle

[late osprey]

in general i've always been a supporter of trying to balkanize cultist and marine rosters

because otherwise trying to play exclusively one or the other is just gimping yourself

if i want my Dark Legion of Evil i shouldnt feel obligated to take filthy peasants

and vice versa

[nocturne crest]

Does anyone remember hearing about a forge world that just built nothing but rhinos that got taken over by chaos?

[sweet basin]

Hey which space marine chapters prefer thunder hammers?

I think salamanders are one of them just wondering if there are others?

[vagrant fox]

I think Iron Hands use a few, something about the Storm Wardens from the Deathwarch RPG pings thunderhammer for me

[sweet basin]

Are the storm wardens a successor chapter?

[vagrant fox]

Yea, unknown founding date or primogenitor

[sweet basin]

Do you know if the white scars would ever use a thunder hammer?

[late osprey]

they use big 2handed power swords

because they're all super scottish

[sweet basin]

https://tenor.com/view/scotland-forever-gif-1469023208301646087

[vagrant fox]

Yea I know but there was something about them specifically and thunder hammers, I think. Or Maybe it was just two-handed power weapons in general

[vagrant fox]

yea

I can't find my deathwatch books oh well

[sweet basin]

must have been blood angels

[vagrant fox]

na, lexi is a good backup

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

[sweet basin]

[astral burrow]

Okay, guys

How do I stop making new characters in rogue trader

I don't wanna end up like bg3 where I never finish a run lmao

[arctic talon]

Chapters will use whatever weapon

Marines at the end of the day aren’t that picky

If it’s designed to kill and it kills stuff good you’ll see it in a chapters arsenal

[sweet basin]

Some will favor some weapons over others though

[arctic talon]

Yeah

But asking if “they would ever” is the wrong way to go about it

The answer is yes always to that

[astral burrow]

Kinda wanna do a ministorum priest dogmatic run already...

Ugh

[languid meadow]

LOCK IN

[astral burrow]

SO MANY OPTIONS

The run will take ages...

Really into the whole zealot vibe rn

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if it would make sense for GW to release something like Totally Accurate Battlegrounds, but set in Commorragh

[dapper gyro]

Does it need to make sense?

[winter pine]

Bored Drukhari archon sets up a battle royale just for the hell of it? Yeah they could make that work

Orphan torture not staving off the soul drain as good as it used to, they gotta mix it up

[golden imp]

Saintic pysker supremacy

I love the 1 action word of emperor that just makes everyone hype every turn

[opaque coyote]

"Inferior Monkeigh, Green skins, cousins, and other various races I cannot bother to know. As you all know, you have all been trapped and tortured by us for... a long, long time.

But sometimes, even we get bored of hearing your screams. You see, we can't have you permanently stuck without hope. It gets boring watching you stop screaming because you've broken down mentally. Which is why we have got something different for you. Hope... if you dare call it that in your primitive tongues.

"We have cleared out one of our smaller sub-spaces connected to Commoragh. And we've decided that you all have a chance to escape."

"Yes that's right! One chance to finally be free from us. No strings attached! But what's the catch you all wonder? Well... you see. You need to earn it."

"You will all be placed in the subspace. We will drop various weapons from your inferior races, and even a couple of our own. You simply need to kill each other, until the last one remains."

"Only one can go free, and only one can truly live."

"Ah... now there are your faces of terror. Now that's a new sensation that fills my soul with joy~"

"So pray to your meaningless and non-existent gods, break in insanity or steady yourself, prepare yourself for a grand game.

We do hope you'll entertain us~"

[dapper gyro]

Laati, focus on your novel, who knows if GW will one day hire you?

[nocturne crest]

Maybe Laati will get hired as the head writer for "Commorragh survivors", which is what I'm calling the game until something better comes out..

[opaque coyote]

I'm imagining that the battle Royale will actually be filled with a ton of weapons from various different races.

I will imagine the low tier weapons being like

Imperial autoguns, Kroot weapons, etc.

But as it goes up, it becomes more destructive

I can imagine top tier weapons being stuff like Grav cannons

[nocturne crest]

Would you add vehicles for more spice?

[opaque coyote]

If I was the director.

Yeah.

Although maybe I would also make it so that

Actual ranged weapons are rarer and it's mostly melee

Do you guys remember the Culling

Before the developer decided to become brain dented

[dapper gyro]

Yes

[nocturne crest]

What about making it so you can use the ammo in the ranged weapon and that's it. No ammo boxes.

Damn. The culling has been shut down for 6 years.

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah.

I would also imagine that you could call in supply drops depending on the amount of people you murdered.

[opaque coyote]

Yeah the only sources would probably be from the weapon, other players, or again, the murder based supply drops.

[nocturne crest]

Honestly, that would probably make Las weapons like top tier.

Unless they were modified to explode after being shot too much.

[arctic talon]

if there was to be a 40k BR then yeah it being run by a very bored Drukhari Archon or Succubus makes the most sense

tbh

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Las Weapons would be lower damage than the rest, but would actually have potentially infinite ammo.

Although you'd have to refill it by doing something like

Cooking the mags under a fire

[arctic talon]

or even haemonculi lol

though the haemonculi being bored prolly wouldn't result to things as boring as violence

[nocturne crest]

Hell, you could set different games modes for it.

One is a BR mode and another is something like DBD.

[opaque coyote]

Also would imagine there being other races with their own starting bonuses.

Orks would be the best in melee but would have worse aim as a result

That type of shit

[arctic talon]

gun size matters/hj

Orks can't use some guns because their fingers can't fit in the trigger

[nocturne crest]

Like weight restrictions?

[arctic talon]

I'm joking

[opaque coyote]

gets dropped a las pistol
Cannot fucking use it

[arctic talon]

a very elaborate Wych Cult event could be a Battle royale lol

[nocturne crest]

You know GW would turn that into a boardgame if they could.

[arctic talon]

steal a planet or massive chunk of land

not really

wouldn't work as a boardgame lol

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[opaque coyote]

I can imagine an Ork literally just

Slicing off the era where there's the finger hold

And just keeping the trigger part

[arctic talon]

just pull it off

lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

jokes aside I'd assume they'd make species mostly cosmetic

because like

some species used in those gladitorial death matches are just objectively better biologically lol

like a Clawed fiend vs a normal human

[opaque coyote]

Yeah true it would be harder to balance.

Generally I just imagined

Humans, Ork, Eldar, and T'au.

Humans being balanced

Orks cannot aim for shit but has melee bonuses to compensate.

Eldar do higher damage but also would be considered a glass cannon.

T'au being the opposite of Orks. Good at Ranged, worse at Melee.

Ignore the lore that T'au just have shittier eyesight in general

[arctic talon]

Eldar would be more durable then humans lore wise 💀

the case is for lore accuracy or gameplay

I'd rather it just be all cosmetic

lol

[opaque coyote]

True. Although either way, hit boxes make things not purely cosmetic

[arctic talon]

Well it doesn't matter

[opaque coyote]

Ork gonna be bigger than humie

[arctic talon]

fortnite has fucked up hitboxes

no one gives a shit

[opaque coyote]

Also to make it interesting for once.

Yeah I'm thinking of the winner actually canonically being sent to like

A livable planet

Like the Deldar just plop them in some random hive world

"have fun"

Instead of just teleporting them into lava

[arctic talon]

the winner gets to become a bodyguard for the Archon/Succubus who arranged the whole thing

lol

[nocturne crest]

Not turned into something else?

[opaque coyote]

I also thought about appearances being randomized

Because like

Whoever dies actually does just die

And then you play as just another poor soul

[opaque coyote]

The logic is that they gotta actually hold up the deal to make it so that they actually fight for it instead of just

Realizing that they're gonna just be tortured again and just kill themselves

[arctic talon]

If you survive those sorts of arenas usually you just get killed

Lol

[nocturne crest]

Oh.

[arctic talon]

Wych cults usually just kill all the surviving prisoners

When it’s all said and done

99% of the time there are no survivors

Unless you count the Wych performers

Lol

[nocturne crest]

Huh. Learnt something new.

I figured they would keep fighting until they died or the Dark Eldar got bored of them.

[nocturne crest]

Do the dark eldar have anything such as chariot races?

[dapper gyro]

You are the chariot.

[arctic talon]

yes, they have races

with jetbikes

[raven stone]

They race with jetbikes, but probably line the racing route with slaves to maim/torture for bonus style points.

Not cheating or scoring said bonus points is, naturally, looked down upon.

So, you know, feel free to sever the heads of 5 slaves whilst doing a sick 180 sky flip in the process of "accidentally" maiming a compeitor with the Jetbike's built in weapon

[golden imp]

Actually, as far as cheating and back stabbing goes for the dark eldar

I know everyone does it, is it looked down upon to be caught doing it or do they just kill each other at feasts in broad daylight

Like are they all sneaky and make everything look like an accident or do they just drive by each other firing their weapons broad side

[raven stone]

I don’t think they differentiate that much, probably.
The sneakiness part is usually a necessity, though, if there are political implications of a direct kill

[golden imp]

Yeah that’s what I wondering if there were any sort of implications they even cared about

[sour hornet]

Both, depending on who it is.

A sloppy assassination is seen as a sign of incompetence, more so because it shows a lack of skill. A good open slaughter is better than a poorly executed assassination.

To cut a long story short, Asdrubael Vect faked his death, only to come back dramatically and wholesale slaughter a shit ton of Drukhari.

[rose thorn]

TOMOORW IS THE KRULEBOYZ UPDATE

[opaque coyote]

Mostly sneaky but board daylight isn't frowned upon either, mostly because usually Archons and the like have high security. So to put it into perspective, it's like storming Arasaka HQ.

For Deldar, backstabbing and manipulation is basically another language that you're required to be fluent in

If your husband/wife hasn't tried to poison your drink, send an assassin after you, or even attack you.

Then he doesn't love you smh

[arctic talon]

If your killing someone directly then its a show of force

[crystal forum]

what are these gay ass tags next to some usernames

[languid meadow]

guilds I think they're called

[crystal forum]

nah it's new

look at this shit

[languid meadow]

well I know the feature is new just I remember the official discord account called them guilds

idk if they gave them a new name or not

[crystal forum]

"server tag"

literally what purpose

[languid meadow]

holy thumbs down

[nocturne crest]

Oh no.

[crystal forum]

i should get one that says MOD so everyone thinks im a moderator

[nocturne crest]

So basically it's probably like death race, but they're doing it for free.

[crystal forum]

look ma i'm a fucking dev

i develop darktide AMA

literally people only join the server for the tag

like what is the point of this feature

[nocturne crest]

Where are the Jopall indentured skins coming?

*When.

[crystal forum]

they're already in game

you're indentured

[arctic talon]

never

[nocturne crest]

Has development started on DT2?

[arctic talon]

genuinely who tf knows

[arctic talon]

probably not

[crystal forum]

wolf

shut up i'm the dev here

[crystal forum]

yes

expect an announcement by 2028

[nocturne crest]

Will there be an Admech twink?

[crystal forum]

yes

hadron's bf

[nocturne crest]

Will there be xenos?

[crystal forum]

no

you will fight a different chaos god

but im not allowed to tell you which one

[vagrant fox]

Pretend I have the dev cuckmark
It's malice goons you're fighting next time

[opaque coyote]

Y'know the worst part is that

I don't hate the idea of Malice

Like

It makes sense to me

Since the scientific definition of Chaos is basically entropy

So it makes sense to have a Chaos God that wants to end Chaos

And I really wish they would play with it more often instead of just leaving it existing

But I'm not John Warhammer

[opaque coyote]

"Varlets. Meet my boyfriend. The only one allowed to be mean to him is me."

"He will help reforge your weapons. If you dare insult him, I will lobotomize you."

"Okay, time to drink some oil margaritas"

[vagrant fox]

They can't do anything with Malal or Malice or whichever was the 40k one, copyright stuff allegedly

[arctic talon]

They can do stuff with Malice

Malal is dead as fuck and was never in 40K

[vagrant fox]

Malal it was

[arctic talon]

Sons of Malice show up every once in a while

To do their thing

[queen laurel]

yeah

[vagrant fox]

I think they tread carefully because of the copyright thing but idk about UK laws

[arctic talon]

Their last real major appearance was in a book in 7e

But for the other stuff

Sons of malice show up randomly in warzone/crusade books

Or get mentioned in rulebook lore

[vagrant fox]

Bring back Kaleb Daark is all that must be done

[queen laurel]

They made malice to replace malal but

They didn't even think of using anything useful

For the replacement

[vagrant fox]

It is a bit redundant, chaos fights itself regardless

[queen laurel]

Didn't they appear like in cadia actually fighting

But like that's the latest biggest face they had

[arctic talon]

They showed up in the fall of Cadia stuff yeah

[arctic talon]

Yeah but Malice is really self destructive

[rose thorn]

YOU CAN JUST MAKE HH WORD BEARERS INTO EXORCISTS HUH

Like

https://preview.redd.it/ur4g5ajy9fo61.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7fa64e7f70902de8e2068ea846a7d66d39b74341

They are 90% of the way there

[crystal forum]

as a dev i think you're wrong

[winter pine]

Sons of Malice had a cool aesthetic, wish we'd get more from GW about them

[median star]

what if instead they were the sons of whimsy and joy

[young pecan]

sons of kindness and good intent

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-meme-steam-tg-bratishkin-gif-274347585508037432

[opaque coyote]

The perfect organism

I admire its purity (of brain cells)

[astral burrow]

Adorable orange car

[languid meadow]

Xenokitty

Xenomorphs and the whole universe of aliens is so fascinating

The factions are also funny

Galaxy map made from the Alienrpg

[winter vessel]

i'd say they're the first of creating the most sinister method of multiplying in a deep space sci fi franchise

[summer mural]

sm2 holding the banner is peak testosterone
"There is no end to them,"
" There is, and WE SHALL FIND IT"

[lofty mason]

Are there any Astartes combat Psyker like Psyker in Dark Tide?

[hexed orchid]

Those would be Chapter Librarians

[queen laurel]

Librarians

[nocturne crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw9OF1_TvRM

[astral burrow]

Are there any combat psykers in general

Besides astartes

[celest dome]

Yes

[queen laurel]

Imperial Sanctioned Psyker

[celest dome]

You have 3 grades

[astral burrow]

are there any that aren't ugly as shit?

[celest dome]

Wyrdwane, Sanctioned (closest to our level) and Primaris

[celest dome]

Basically no

[queen laurel]

well it's because these guys often just focus on one discipline

[astral burrow]

Are darktide psykers even sanctioned anymore

[celest dome]

They never were

[astral burrow]

And that gives them no time to idk eat and shit?

[astral burrow]

Really?

How so?

Veteran was in the guard

[queen laurel]

Even if they eat even if they have nutrients messing with the pure raw power of the warp

Degrades your body

[celest dome]

They live on the front line, aren't treated quite well, and using the Warp doesn't make you good looking

[astral burrow]

Cassia is a literal mutant and even she looks better than most psykers I have seen

[celest dome]

They never have been on Terra

[queen laurel]

that's because her biology mutated to handle the strain

[astral burrow]

You gotta be on terra to be sanctioned?

Can't be sanctioned anywhere else?

[queen laurel]

and do you want me to spoil you?

[celest dome]

Are you only looking at her fan arts

[astral burrow]

If it is about cassia, no

[astral burrow]

She only has a portrait in game lmao

And even that is pretty

I know she has gills and a weird third eye but still pretty

She is uglier in most fanarts even

[queen laurel]

she's mutating more and more

also she's like a very special case

that's all i'm gonna spoil

[astral burrow]

Isn't that the case for all navigators

[celest dome]

In lore yes, but there are other books that have different Planets where you have Psyker being sent to be trained.

[queen laurel]

yes

[celest dome]

But in any case, we aren't sanctioned

[queen laurel]

but as you can see

[astral burrow]

Having only one planet to be able to sanction psykers is

[queen laurel]

even being a mutant that has the biology to take into account the strain of being a navigator

[astral burrow]

Must be a buerocratic nightmare

[queen laurel]

They are mutating

[astral burrow]

However you spell

[queen laurel]

what do you think happens to a normal human

that's why a biomancers are the only one that look good

[astral burrow]

Yeah I know how much navigators eventually mutate

[celest dome]

Burocratic

[astral burrow]

I hate burocracy

[nocturne crest]

Do you think the guard would have something like Tank Turret bunkers?

[storm jungle]

Definitely would, im pretty sure theres old official minis of it iirc

[celest dome]

Maybe part of Wall of Martyr ?

Though more bunker with Saber turret

[astral burrow]

Hi dilara

[shadow plover]

there were these by Forge World

a couple variants

[queen laurel]

literally Biomancers are just built different

[nocturne crest]

Make sense they would go with the Chimera's turret than a Leman Russ'.

[queen laurel]

they could literally have such control on their body that they can turn it into living metal

But learning multiple psychic divinations isn't really easy

so many psykers tend to stick to just one and favor it

[nocturne crest]

Odd question, but has there ever been a model that started life in one faction, but was moved to another?

[celest dome]

Do Imperial Agent count ?

And boxed games ?

[shadow plover]

do Squats count

they moved from 40k to 'munda

[celest dome]

Their models didnt

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's more like they moved from the imperium and became their own faction

[shadow plover]

Rhinos used to be the de facto transport for almost every faction

[queen laurel]

because necromunda squats are leftovers

that aren't kin

[shadow plover]

I know

[celest dome]

Don't think Squat count though

Until an old model get rules for Munda or Votaan leagues

Even if a refresh of one

[astral burrow]

Bro thinks he ballas

[shadow plover]

Zoats used to be Tyranid army models

not sure if the current single Zoat model has any rules for large 40k

probably

but not sure for which faction

[queen laurel]

this?

[shadow plover]

yes

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's Blackstone fortress apparently

[shadow plover]

The Archivist or whatever

[queen laurel]

yes

But it seems now that they are just trying to survive the Galaxy no longer fighting for someone or something

[shadow plover]

oh it's an unaligned unit

[queen laurel]

yes

it seems all of them have went into hiding

[shadow plover]

I just meant in the general tabletop rules

[rose thorn]

ITS OUT

[astral burrow]

What is

[queen laurel]

oh yeah i see it

the Kruleboyz ghyran

[nocturne crest]

I guess?

[rose thorn]

Also Ossiarchs next

Or skeleblights

[crystal forum]

as a warhammer fantasy developer i can confirm this

[celest dome]

Some of their models used to be available to Sister of Battle iirc

[nocturne crest]

I'm just wondering if they'll give the hammerfest bunker to the guard.

[astral burrow]

White hair

Besides old ag w

Age

Is it possible in 40k?

[storm jungle]

Yes.

Hair dye exists.

[astral burrow]

Natural I mean

[storm jungle]

Yeah you just need an excuse for it really

Genetic editing, some mutation, etc

[queen laurel]

or just you know born with white hair

Certainly not the craziest thing considering the the living conditions of humanity

[astral burrow]

Wouldn't mutation be frowned upon

[queen laurel]

as long as it's very very light and white hair isn't really that crazy

[sharp pollen]

Dorn dyes hair

[storm jungle]

Some are let off, hair pigmentation is not really a big deal

[queen laurel]

hell cadians have the noticeable purple eye mutation

And they're let go

[astral burrow]

Sick

[astral burrow]

Deserved honestly

[raven stone]

Also high society can definitely and will definitely have access to dying products

At one point I debated having an anime pink haired Rogue Trader...

[astral burrow]

I like white hair when it is natural

With exceptions but 40k doesn't have those

[celest dome]

Shock can also lead to early onset of white hair

[celest dome]

Esher gang for example

[shadow plover]

Vindication

Hard

[rocky gale]

Knight and chaos knights committing the ultimate sin of not being Space Marines and as such getting only a single upgrade sprue each alongside their codex release

[shadow plover]

Knights don't really need a whole new chassis tbh

[queen laurel]

oh i was right it is a type of siege drill

so this one really wants to get close

[rocky gale]

Imp knights could have done with more Armiger variants

[hexed orchid]

Chaos knights never quite look Chaos enough to me

[queen laurel]

really?

[rocky gale]

Chaos knights got 5/6 and Imps get 2/3

[queen laurel]

They look chaos enough for me

[hexed orchid]

Some of them could have been in the warp for centuries, millenia? And they got a couple of bonus teeth and some spikes

[queen laurel]

oh you want them to look more like a crack addict in detroit

like extra flesh and some more stuff like that

[hexed orchid]

They don't all have to be, don't get me wrong but at least one super fucked up one would be cool

[queen laurel]

something like the war dog?

[nocturne crest]

It looks so cool.

The head looks so gross.

Gross in a good way.

[hexed orchid]

Still feels a bit too "knight with bits"

Like compare that to a helbrute or even the Chaos knight cover art and it feels so plain

[storm jungle]

Mid!

🗣️

[queen laurel]

hey chaos knights are still better than titans

[shadow plover]

Dilara logged in, it's whinge o'clock

[storm jungle]

You'd know Mr No-Taste

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910400427277828147/1353491142833995787/image0.gif

[shadow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-part-2-paul-atreides-i-am-paul-muad'dib-atreides-duke-of-arrakis-gif-10565349926785199692

[queen laurel]

ah here's boss jerk the marine mangla and Dilara Brain basha at it again

welp it's time to get more popcorn

[shadow plover]

what's a mangla

[queen laurel]

mangler

[shadow plover]

I see

[queen laurel]

it's just ork pronunciation

[shadow plover]

[spring cairn]

it's a boss in mhw

gore mangala or something

[rose thorn]

Peak CSM

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if it would make sense for the guard to use civilian vehicles in a battle.

[storm jungle]

If they are desperate yeah

[shadow plover]

Cargo 8s have been used by the Guard, it is also available for civilians

[nocturne crest]

Does the imperium have any construction equipment?

Or is it all done by hand.

[shadow plover]

they do

loads

[queen laurel]

.... think of this question

very very clearly

[shadow plover]

they have giant machines that can flatten out square miles upon miles of land just to have a little celebration

or for landing sites

etc

[queen laurel]

you can see a good chunk of them from gene stealers

goliath trucks

drills

[storm jungle]

They literally have anything and everything you can think of from IRL, its just more archaic/gothic.

[nocturne crest]

Tbh, I forgot Goliath trucks and I was thinking of that story with the necrons inspecting a golden shrine or tower that had human remains trapped within it.

[storm jungle]

Even beyond goliath trucks again they pretty much have most tech we do today.

Its again more old fashioned.

[queen laurel]

yeah but most of the time way better

they have handheld drills that can punch holes through iron walls

some of them straight up use laser mining

[shadow plover]

Think you are referring to the hood ornament the Angels Carmine had. It had bones of the saint it was depicting embedded into it

[queen laurel]

oh yeah dilara

Is the best way of like being consistently undivided just mass sacrifices to all chaos gods

Because every time I read about the undivided subsection of chaos

[storm jungle]

No its just devoting anything you do to chaos as an entity

[queen laurel]

It's almost always like fighting and just sacrificing people

[storm jungle]

thats what all chaos factions do

[queen laurel]

ohhh

so you mean like instead of dedicating this decapitation to khorne

I dedicate it to the dark Gods something like that

[storm jungle]

Yeah.

Its all about where your "effort" goes/is devoted to really

[queen laurel]

Good to know then

I at least I have a better understanding of how they can keep their religious cohesion when they are in a pantheon that doesn't like to get along

[tough haven]

Cohesion?

What’s that?

[nocturne crest]

I'm so sure it was something to do with architecture

[winter vessel]

re-reading the first two Horus Heresy books makes me realize how much of a chill lad Tarik Torgaddon was.

[shadow plover]

it was from a cruise ship, that's the necron story you're most likely referring to because it is pretty much what you're describing

Torgaddon was great yeah

[lofty mason]

How powerful is our DT Pysker compared to every other Psyker in the Imperium?

[shadow plover]

not crazy strong but comparing it to every psyker in the imperium probably skews the scales a bit when most are probably to the latent/weak/barely any powers category

[celest dome]

Somewhat strong, Sanctioned level probably (Epsylon)

[winter vessel]

I’d say an Eta class on the Psionic power scale

[celest dome]

Eta is more Wyrdwane Psykers

[winter vessel]

No wait not, Eta, Iota

[celest dome]

Iota is even weaker...

[sly ivy]

I hate the psionic power scale. Psychic powers are so individualized

[celest dome]

And are in the same class as Eta

[sly ivy]

It’s too much like dragonball

[celest dome]

Only for the Alpha + Bullshit

[winter vessel]

I really don’t see them as being very strong

Nor do I really look into much. The only thing I paid attention to was the funny shenanigans on D100 rolls for Psykers

[sly ivy]

My favorite thing about psychic power levels is that the Eldar are supposed to have way more warp juice in their souls in general — and I know they have to hold back bc of Slaanesh — but their shows of power in lore are like total shit compared to competent human psykers’ like Ravenor’s.

[celest dome]

Iota to Eta are supposed to be the Wyrdwane, which aren't able to do much on their own (like having multiple Wyrdwane to be able to Smite enemies)

Ours are able to do stuff on their own

[sly ivy]

Never mind, you know, Malcador.

[celest dome]

The same debate always happened with Sienna, she isn't as strong as main Table Top Magister, but she is quite stronger than the rpg ones

[queen laurel]

the peak of each member of the Ubersreik 5 absolutely mog just about everything

[tough haven]

That’s just cause GW hates eldar and loves human factions

Eldar are also supposedly on the same level of space marines when trained, but a single chapter is able to wipe out an entire craftworld easily

[astral burrow]

Do humans use bolters?

Normal guards

Or anyone that isn't a space marine

[queen laurel]

yes

they do

[astral burrow]

Is that a commissar

Do the guard use any?

[queen laurel]

yes Bolters are used as emplacement weapons, and can be found on vehicles

Stonetooth Harker is popular for lugging around a heavy Bolter like it's nothing while other humans need to brace themselves to fire a heavy bolter properly

even a common soldier can use a normal one

[astral burrow]

How can they even handle it

[queen laurel]

this is 40K

humans if they train themselves can achieve rather horrific showmanships of physical ability

[astral burrow]

Is it like lugging around an lmg?

[queen laurel]

Catachan a good example