God damn it now I have to make a choice
#40k-lore-chat
astral burrow
Felek or Theobald...
Screw it I didn't like felek anyway
Finally, cassia's voice!
It is nicer than I expected
astral burrow
I have so many useless items lmao hope I can sell them
sharp pollen
plush mason
I have so many useless items lmao hope I can sell them
yes just throw them in the cargo
green loom
I have so many useless items lmao hope I can sell them
You can trade basically everything
crystal forum
good luck getting ship components
astral burrow
yes just throw them in the cargo
Ah I see
Can't sell them individually huh
How do I know if something is no longer useful and is safe to put in the cargo hold?
So many flirty dialogue options to pick with cassia already and I really hope I am not required to pick them to romance her
Cuz I saved her like 5 minutes ago and it feels distasteful
Every dialogue there is an option to just take her back to my chambers, what is this game cooking
plush mason
So many flirty dialogue options to pick with cassia already and I really hope I ...
they are not
just be friendly with her and you can start firtling whenever
queen laurel
yeah
uh
They put most of their effort in there but don't worry the rest of the game is still goated
But remember if you want cassia to turn out sane
you have to give her kindness
plush mason
yeah
astral burrow
they are not
Thank god
astral burrow
you have to give her kindness
I will
Definitely not flirting with her in this state
How can I get more strength for my guy
Level up doesn't give it as an option
plush mason
stats are only picked at specific levels and with reguards to your class
astral burrow
I hate that I can't hide the giant hat without also hiding the head armor
I want the visor without the giant head ugh
astral burrow
stats are only picked at specific levels and with reguards to your class
Officer doesn't get it as an option?
I need 5 more to be able to use a revolver I got...
plush mason
I need 5 more to be able to use a revolver I got...
ah that one
astral burrow
Items with gold border around them
What do I do with those
Feels like they might come in handy later
Journals, samples, a drawing
plush mason
those are ether quest items or lore items
astral burrow
Wow I can make custom companions
astral burrow
those are ether quest items or lore items
Should I get rid of them or
Just keep in a safe?
I fear they might trigger events by being in my inventory
Cassia is all flustered around the lord captain and I rizzed someone else up by accident instead
Smh
These people forget themselves
raven stone
Wow I can make custom companions
Remember to keep the game designated characters around for their side quests (IIRC you have enough char slots for some customised characters even if you keep the named NPCs)
astral burrow
Remember to keep the game designated characters around for their side quests (II...
Oh wow
I thought I had only 3 party member slots lol
Nice
How do I get more scrap
plush mason
space battles in act 2 onwards
act 2 and 4 are by far the biggest sections of the game
astral burrow
I wonder how the emperor was when he could actually stand up and do things
Was he like a 7 foot tall guy with a sharp jawline and muscles and could deadlift a voidship or smth
Abelard is awesome
How do I sell stuff btw
queen laurel
How do I sell stuff btw
you know The factorum guy
astral burrow
The who?
queen laurel
The who?
High Factotum Janris Danrok
the guy that looks fat and looks like the typical stereotypical noble
green loom
You might not have contacts yet
queen laurel
yeah you need to unlock it later down the line
green loom
You can unlock it right away by interacting with a ship on the map
astral burrow
You can unlock it right away by interacting with a ship on the map
Only finished the prologue and got cassia
Wait I can just call people into my bath?
That doesn't make any sense
I am gonna bath with abelard
Oh they just stand there and tell me things
Okay that's more sensible
queen laurel
Isn't that the custom compabion
yes
He handles the trading training and custom companion business
astral burrow
How do I unlock respecing
Holy moly this guy made an emperor statue out of soap
So cool
This guy's talents are wasted as a bodyguard
God these people are treating me like a god or something in this game it is annoying
queen laurel
God these people are treating me like a god or something in this game it is anno...
Rogue traders are very important and powerful people in the imperium
So expect anyone to gravel in your feet
astral burrow
So expect anyone to gravel in your feet
Well I didn't really choose to be that
So I make my guy sound annoyed and humble whenever that happens
If possible
Idiras jokes are kinda funny
I didn't get the unsanctioned psykers cabin one tho
Why would it be called an emergency airlock?
Oh, cuz we would just kill the guy?
Got cassia to draw me, wish I could see the drawing more clearly tho
I really wanna know how exactly she sees the world, colors everywhere and whatnot
Is there any use to the shrine?
tough haven
Is there any use to the shrine?
Besides devotion to the God Emperor? You'll have to see...
astral burrow
God I really don't want the bloodspun web around me
If I don't, will I just miss out on the dlc?
tough haven
If I don't, will I just miss out on the dlc?
yes
tough haven
I will have enough slots for other npcs right?
yes
you do get an achievement for doing it by yourself lol
astral burrow
I will just not bring her to missions
Can't stand her sight
Can I leave the dlc for after I finish the main story?
tough haven
Can I leave the dlc for after I finish the main story?
no
its interwoven with the existing narrative
rocky gale
Four new books and not a Space Marine in sight
vagrant fox
alas, new Carcharadon and Ultramarines books are coming as well
rocky gale
Didn't even notice the Sisters book's an anthology, lets gooo
vagrant fox
There's one Tempestus Scions novel by RS Wilt as well, I'm tempted to read his short stories
astral burrow
its interwoven with the existing narrative
Gah
The cult is so repulsive
I would push them out of an airlock if I could.
At least I didn't let them kill those people
plush mason
Four new books and not a Space Marine in sight
finally
astral burrow
I guess I have to put up with her, I did pay for the dlc.
If I have the chance to kill her I will
green loom
Four new books and not a Space Marine in sight
These always tend to be the nicer ones
rocky gale
Always hyped for more Sisters stories and Mike Brooks doing a Corsair book is going to be cool
tough haven
How difficult would it be to kill a tech priest and get away with it? Extremely difficult right?
as a non member of the cult I should say
I'm not sure what exactly a tech priest would be willing to give for this that isnt too sacrilegious
originally I had thought access codes to a rival's holdings/facilities, or maybe a certificate allowing this ganger to fence tech semi legally/deal in augments?
But maybe thats too much
I try to find a fine line for my characters "rewards" at the end of an arc where it seems reasonably fulfilling for the character, but also classically grim-dark where its not really much in the scheme of things
tough haven
I would push them out of an airlock if I could.
just you wait
pearl brook
Beauty is Always in the eye of the beholder
That thing looks terrifying
opaque coyote
Why were people calling her ugly again?
Wait she
...
Huh
She does look cool I agree
I guess because people rank female characters more out of "beauty" than "coolness"
Because unfortunately gender also means different criteria for aesthetic and beauty for a lot of people
vagrant fox
it's global coomer saturation
opaque coyote
it's global coomer saturation
In general if I was ranking on
"How much I wanna coom 
"
It would be like 1/10
But that's literally not the point of the design
queen laurel
Her lizard is what I dislike
yeah they could have definitely spice it up
a giant lizard come on you could make something better than that
outer wave
Why were people calling her ugly again?
She's cool looking but I wouldn't call her traditionally beautiful
queen laurel
But it's also the fact that she is such a background character in her own model
dapper gyro
I do want female characters to look different than male. Like this one you swap the head and you have a generic dude.
opaque coyote
I do want female characters to look different than male. Like this one you swap ...
Tbf I think it makes sense for it to be kinda uh
"Generalized" if that makes sense
Armor is big
She's going into battle, not a beauty pageant.
Females can look a lot like males if you just shave them bald
dapper gyro
Well, in real life women in armour still look like women.
celest dome
Iirc she also came out right after this model
dapper gyro
Even if the plates are unisex.
opaque coyote
That funny thought aside, in general I think it's just the limit of modeling
Since like
The facial structure and hair is the main differentiation between "feminine and masculine" for me
And the models don't really gave
Much space for a face that differentiates it
Y'know
queen laurel
Iirc she also came out right after this model
Yeah it strikes a balance of showing off the Lord and an amazing mount another one would be Gordrakk
Like yeah the mount is impressive but like the person that is actually important is taking the spotlight
celest dome
Sure, but tbf, she look more impressive than her mount
Honestly had she been on foot ||or had wings (would be a great kitbash for Valkia)|| I would have nothing to say about it
queen laurel
Honestly had she been on foot ||or had wings (would be a great kitbash for Valki...
Yeah the dragon mount just looks like an enlarged karkadrak
opaque coyote
Yeah it strikes a balance of showing off the Lord and an amazing mount another o...
...do we ever have squigs that look that cool
queen laurel
...do we ever have squigs that look that cool
i mean you can homebrew it
celest dome
Fuck that's one fuggly thing
queen laurel
squigs can literally be everything
celest dome
I had never seen that lizard
opaque coyote
squigs can literally be everything
I have thought about an Ork who is just bored of Squig herding, and decided to raise/herd other creatures
queen laurel
Fuck that's one fuggly thing
Are you talking about gordrack or
opaque coyote
Cause although Squigs are modular
celest dome
Krakadrak
opaque coyote
Like
celest dome
Grodrack has flair
opaque coyote
They can't be like a Catachan creature lmao
celest dome
opaque coyote
Unless if they van
celest dome
This one
queen laurel
Yeah that one
celest dome
Ugly model
opaque coyote
Friend shaped lizard
queen laurel
it's basically just a giant rhino crocodile
queen laurel
I have thought about an Ork who is just bored of Squig herding, and decided to r...
My OC is literally using this as a mount
he modified his squiggasaur into this thing
queen laurel
oh yeah but question why did you call this ugly it's just a creature
basic but i wouldn't call it ugly
opaque coyote
he modified his squiggasaur into this thing
How do you modify squigs anyways. Like do they feed it like specific creatures
plush mason
Her lizard is what I dislike
the lizard is one of the best parts imo
opaque coyote
Or is it just a mystery
vagrant fox
I'm not sure what exactly a tech priest would be willing to give for this that i...
Confiscated unblessed contraband, location of a rival warehouse, or the certificate could work
Depends a bit on what story/what kind of game you're going for
queen laurel
How do you modify squigs anyways. Like do they feed it like specific creatures
genetic modification with runt heard knowledge
it's orks do whatever the hell you want
celest dome
Aren't the Squig variant just Squig stuff ?
queen laurel
some groups of orks even breed squigs for camouflage
celest dome
Like it can happen even without a Runt Herder
queen laurel
Like it can happen even without a Runt Herder
yes but some breeds are made for specific reasons for example
celest dome
oh yeah but question why did you call this ugly it's just a creature
There are much better Rhino looking mini, and lizard looking one too
opaque coyote
genetic modification with runt heard knowledge
So do Herding Orks instinctually know how to make a genetic modification machine
Or do they just
"OI I'z make dis thingy"
celest dome
So do Herding Orks instinctually know how to make a genetic modification machine
Genetic memory
opaque coyote
injects needle into squig
celest dome
Same as Mek boy
queen laurel
like tell me do you really think this thing would evolve on its own in the wild
celest dome
And Weird boys
queen laurel
Another one is oil squigs
celest dome
like tell me do you really think this thing would evolve on its own in the wild
I mean, it's Squig 🤷
queen laurel
I mean, it's Squig 🤷
yeah but basically they can just alter squigs for their needs
opaque coyote
Genetic memory
I know but like how do they remember
Like do they instinctually know how to build a machine to genetically edit a squig
Or instinctually know how to make a compound and inject the squig
queen laurel
I know but like how do they remember
Like do they instinctually know how to bu...
it's genetically literally implanted into the DNA by the old ones
celest dome
But I don't really think we know how that stuff work
queen laurel
They have the instincts to know how it works but they need to actually practice the skill to improve it
plush mason
to sum up how it works, a mek gets hit by a grot that got thrown from a car and gets a strange look, he then goes into his shop and invents a cannon that fires grots through the warp to hit the target
so tldr, they have the memory of how to make stuff but they need to unlock it somehow
opaque coyote
to sum up how it works, a mek gets hit by a grot that got thrown from a car and ...
Ah.
...
Y'know Orks would probably make the most sense to make an RPG about
They literally have a genetic skill tree that they unlock perks for
Also it would be funny to imagine like
A speech skill system... for an Ork protagonist
💀
celest dome
Orks and Chaos are the most suited for an rpg where you unlock abilities
plush mason
They literally have a genetic skill tree that they unlock perks for
that would work yeah, and you unlock the perks by doing stuff
opaque coyote
"For the Imperium, I shall burn your kind to the ground."
[Speech 100] (bluff) "Oi, well I already sent me boyz out to your... weird little camp! Better hurry!"
"Damn you... Everybody fall back to the field hospital."
opaque coyote
that would work yeah, and you unlock the perks by doing stuff
Skills that are entirely focused on combat will simply be called "Brutal"
While skills focused on pursuits like machine building, speech, Squig herding, etc. will be called "Cunning"
sacred bluff
storm jungle
awful
spring cairn
this is what psykers beam into their enemy's head to make it blow up
young pecan
They literally have a genetic skill tree that they unlock perks for
Wdym
opaque coyote
Wdym
They have instinctual knowledge but need to unlock/train to get it
They have blueprints in their mind
They just need to get enough expertise to get it
celest dome
It's less in their mind and more in their ghestalt field, it's linked in part to their Waaagh
opaque coyote
It's less in their mind and more in their ghestalt field, it's linked in part to...
It's Psyker bullshit anyways
But yeah I could imagine an Ork RPG being fun as fuck
Although... to limit the scale, it'd either have to take place in somewhere like
Gorkamorka
Or you're specifically a Freeboota
winter vessel
grimdark Aang
arctic talon
Four new books and not a Space Marine in sight
FUCK ITS ANOTHER MIKE BROOKS ELDAR BOOK
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
DAMN YOU BROOOOOOKS
arctic talon
I DON'T WANT BROOKS SLOP
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
THE PAW STRIKES AGAIN
storm jungle
1 is enough
Stop hating 
storm jungle
Hi dilara I finally actually started the run lmao
Lets goooo
astral burrow
Got cassia
Called her beautiful once and got fried
I meant it as a genuine compliment...
And met the assassin woman
Already sick of her lmao
The whole cult thing hiding in my ship pisses me off I need to implement a real court system
We can't just kill people like it is nothing, I am a good rogue trader
storm jungle
Already sick of her lmao
You got no taste.
storm jungle
We can't just kill people like it is nothing, I am a good rogue trader
You act like that and it will get you nowhere
astral burrow
You got no taste.
I do
I will take a woman with tall fingers pale skin literal gills and a third eye over a dumb superstitious woman who thinks she is nothing but the emperor's blade
sacred ginkgo
You can fix her
sacred ginkgo
She also has the best romance ending for whatever reason
astral burrow
Her face genuinely repulses me I feel those piercings stinging into my own skin
I hope the next dlc has a better companion
arctic talon
She also has the best romance ending for whatever reason
lol
sacred ginkgo
Close enough
astral burrow
Cassia can't even have a family right?
sacred ginkgo
Only with other navigators, got to keep the blood pure
They can have kids with normal humans
sacred ginkgo
Incest just keeps them strong
astral burrow
I doubt the child would enjoy the existence tho
Wouldn't fit in with humans, nor with navigators
I will sleep today, finish my studies early tomorrow, and enjoy cassia's company
arctic talon
Does make sense it might as well be different species
yeah thats how most abhumans work
the only abhumans compatible with humans are Psykers and voidborn
maybe beastmen
astral burrow
Psykers are abhuman?
arctic talon
yes
misty vector
So is being a psyker predetermined by genetics or is there another factor
vagrant fox
A good Rogue Trader, huh
Wonder if such a thing is actually possible with how much goes into making them rich
sacred ginkgo
Good is relative
Giving compliments to lower deck crew puts you pretty high on the spectrum
astral burrow
A good Rogue Trader, huh
Wonder if such a thing is actually possible with how mu...
Meh I became rogue trader out of the blue and is already rich now
So I can be good
If I lose it all idc I didn't build it
sacred ginkgo
Iconoclast is pretty “good” but you make a lot of really stupid choices
sacred ginkgo
“Yeah let’s take these chaos scarred citizens and the reactor on board and then leave without doing anything else”
astral burrow
If I flirt with cassia early on do I lose her?
vagrant fox
Giving compliments to lower deck crew puts you pretty high on the spectrum
Yeah but giving platitudes don't mean much to offset the suffering that puts you at the top of the totem pole imho
sacred ginkgo
Yep
astral burrow
Actually talking to the orphans?
And not executing that officer and the workers
Instead of I just fired the officers and let the workers work under constant supervision
Murder is lame
I did run through the fire and got those people killed tho, I was curious
arctic talon
So is being a psyker predetermined by genetics or is there another factor
genetics, sorta
astral burrow
Will scar my navy officer forever
arctic talon
Iconoclast is pretty “good” but you make a lot of really stupid choices
full icono is stupid
Icono + dog is fine
astral burrow
Do all psykers look like homeless malnourished insane people?
astral burrow
Or is that just darktide
arctic talon
There can be nicely dressed psykers
just usually every psyker has
some screws loose
cinder pivot
Being a psyker ages the person quickly from what I read in Eisenhorn trilogy
misty vector
it does tend to eat away a lot on people
arctic talon
Being a psyker ages the person quickly from what I read in Eisenhorn trilogy
from stress yeah
cinder pivot
Yeah
vagrant fox
Hell is in your brain and it wants out, it'd be pretty stressfull
vagrant fox
in, out, both
vagrant fox
Why not, there's marginally worse things
arctic talon
it just wants to eat lay eggs
astral burrow
Is cassia part of the hell?
cinder pivot
Tasaera Ungish was a semi-paralysed woman in her fifties. The arduous rituals of the warp had left her broken and all but burned out,
consigned to a life as a junior telepath in the class-chambers of Ane-mae Gulfward. Her raddled body was supported by an augmetic
exo-skeleton. I believe she might have been beautiful once, but her face was now hollow and her hair thin where the implant plugs of
her calling had been sited.
From Ch 17 of Eisenhorn
storm jungle
So is being a psyker predetermined by genetics or is there another factor
Its genetic and supernatural.
because we got lore evidence of Sisters of Silence and some other groups setting up breeding programs to make sure more psykers/nulls can be born in specific bloodlines or genes etc
misty vector
no
vagrant fox
Alrighty, caught up on S2 of Andor. It almost makes me like Star Wars again
i would die for saw guerra
vagrant fox
Is cassia part of the hell?
In a different way
worldly trellis
On par with space marines?
No, sisters of battle are just humans in power armor
storm jungle
On par with space marines?
Depends on the Order/Sister formation.
worldly trellis
While space marines are steroid ogres with two hearts
storm jungle
Some Sisters can definitely go toe-to-toe with space marines but they'll take a lot of losses, they can still crack em open like most other factions though + are pretty numerous
arctic talon
i would die for saw guerra
arctic talon
On par with space marines?
Training wise they're about as good as humans can get tbh
vagrant fox
SoBs have the advantage of becomings saints I suppose
astral burrow
Saw is awesome
arctic talon
also Saw Gerrera, he is totally not Che Guvera but they left out the U lol
astral burrow
Sisters of battle seem cool
vagrant fox
https://tenor.com/view/andor-saw-gerrera-theyre-lost-saw-theyre-lost-gif-2708911...
my beautiful leader
misty vector
also there arent thousands of chaos sisters unlike the marines so they win on the faith aspect ig
storm jungle
We dont really know how many chaos sisters there are.
vagrant fox
Fanart suggests billions of chaos sisters
storm jungle
But Sisters are way more numerous than Marines but below something like the Imperial Guard obviously.
storm jungle
Fanart suggests billions of chaos sisters
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
misty vector
but theres no like warbands of traitor sisters or anything like that
astral burrow
I don't get the joke
storm jungle
but theres no like warbands of traitor sisters or anything like that
Nope
astral burrow
I am hopeless yes lol
storm jungle
chaos sisters as a thing in-universe is extremely suppressed
vagrant fox
Tbf I can imagine some warbands of chaos sisters coming out of the whole murder-curse but GW isn't doing much with that
storm jungle
yeah because the murder-curse is just some blot of an event in a small part of the galaxy
cinder pivot
chaos sisters as a thing in-universe is **extremely** suppressed
the gothier sisters 😳
storm jungle
also we have chaos sisters in that yeah
also chaos salamanders and black templars
based af
astral burrow
Sisters are way too faithful I find them annoying
storm jungle
You mean to tell me
misty vector
well faith is a big part of the imperium in general
vagrant fox
crazy stuff
vagrant fox
yeah because the murder-curse is just some blot of an event in a small part of t...
but it was cool and based and there should come more cool and based things from it
this is sensible
vagrant fox
don't make me post crying pepe
storm jungle
astral burrow
in other words TRASH SETTING!
Cool aesthetic tho
Those paper strips with red stamps on them
Candles everywhere
Sci fi mixed with fantasy
Star wars if it was good
storm jungle
Those paper strips with red stamps on them
They arent paper strips they are purity seals!!!!!!
storm jungle
Star wars if it was good
watch Andor
arctic talon
they're waxed paper tbh
astral burrow
They arent paper strips they are purity seals!!!!!!
Whatever they are, they are everywhere
storm jungle
Whatever they are, they are everywhere
Purity seals
im gonna stamp one on your face
astral burrow
watch Andor
Andor is just one show I mean the entire franchise as a whole lol
astral burrow
im gonna stamp one on your face
Whyyyy
arctic talon
watch Andor
peak show tbh
storm jungle
Andor is just one show I mean the entire franchise as a whole lol
Perish.
astral burrow
I like andor not as a star wars show but on its own
astral burrow
I am pure
I am the purest there is
I didn't even flirt with cassia yet, and I have known her the whole day
arctic talon
the bar is on the floor today I see
astral burrow
Seriously tho I been nothing but pure in game so far
Except walking into that fire thing
And smoking whatever iridia smokes
We all get curious
Gonna show my new guys look tomorrow he is handsome
vagrant fox
I do want to play Rogue Trader again but I'm waiting for the DLC
I ought to try to do a better job not killing people next time
astral burrow
It is fun to not kill people
languid meadow
watch Andor
EP 8 was cinema
sacred ginkgo
I do want to play Rogue Trader again but I'm waiting for the DLC
I ought to try...
Oh I’m going full send dogmatic
languid meadow
All I'm gonna say but yeah that episode was so good
sacred ginkgo
Most of you will die, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make
astral burrow
Did andor season 2 finish?
sacred ginkgo
I'm going full heretical in my next rogue trader run
Gameplay busted but story undercooked and basically unfinished
astral burrow
Sleepy time
vagrant fox
It is fun to not kill people
It was more to stay in character as full dogmatic, being an ass is fun as a bonus
storm jungle
EP 8 was cinema
Im gonna binge all 3 new eps tonight, who needs sleep?
storm jungle
It is fun to not kill people
Weak.
cinder pivot
I saw the Heretical-only gear that can be obtained in my first Icono-Dogmatic run and I got envious
storm jungle
kill all the homeless on my ship Abelard, NOW
astral burrow
I am gonna watch andor when they are all released
vagrant fox
The last few episodes have been kino
languid meadow
Did andor season 2 finish?
next week
sacred ginkgo
I saw the Heretical-only gear that can be obtained in my first Icono-Dogmatic ru...
Most the heretical gear is lame
astral burrow
vagrant fox
yes
cinder pivot
spawns a demon during a normal battle
misty vector
Shes pretty cracked in combat though ngl
vagrant fox
Every single fight it happens
sacred ginkgo
Shes pretty cracked in combat though ngl
Idira is the buff dispenser
sacred ginkgo
Every single fight it happens
I fuckin wish, I can barely get the flavor text procs
astral burrow
Sometimes iridia just takes damage
When I use an ability
During that mutant fight in the prologue she just exploded and died when I shot lightning once, it was weird
sacred ginkgo
Perfectly normal behavior
astral burrow
It was whatever, just weird
sacred ginkgo
Unsanctioned psykers explode more than normal
astral burrow
arctic talon
Im gonna binge all 3 new eps tonight, who needs sleep?
its worth it
arctic talon
Unsanctioned psykers explode more than normal
THE VOICES
sacred ginkgo
I think I stacked willpower too hard for my current idira to stack psy rating via the funny gloves well
late osprey
Not me letting an unsanctioned psyker live on my ship, no
i got the achievo for selling them all to the inquisition
but in general im full dogmatic except when yrliet is on screen
its fun to Commissar LARP
misty vector
Heretical is fun too
Like suggesting to a man thats afraid of death to commit himself to nurgle
vagrant fox
i got the achievo for selling them all to the inquisition
Sensible and wisepilled
I think I tried shooting Yrilet on sight
It's Warhammer, the last thing I care about is nice and good things
vagrant fox
Like suggesting to a man thats afraid of death to commit himself to nurgle
I should do a heretic playthrough but I hear it isn't as fleshed out
misty vector
Its pretty silly when you have to stop the dark mechanicus and the pleasure cult on your planets, just to install another chaos mechanicus and another chaos cult
vagrant fox
Makes a bit of sense if it's to put you on top of the hierarchy
arctic talon
Its pretty silly when you have to stop the dark mechanicus and the pleasure cult...
Tbf they're not under your control
cut it out
replace it with your own
late osprey
It's Warhammer, the last thing I care about is nice and good things
i try to do this but i can never muster the force of will to do what needs be done (making yrliet upset)
to that end, you're a stronger servant of the Emperor than I
vagrant fox
Well they're just pixels without any agency, they're easy to dehumanize
sacred ginkgo
I gave Yrliet to slanesh and all I got was this shitty cone attack
late osprey
Well they're just pixels without any agency, they're easy to dehumanize
what can i say? im a sucker for RPGs
vagrant fox
You will never be the Emperors favourite at this rate 😔
late osprey
true and sad
worldly trellis
Is rannick stupid?
As in it took him forever to figure out who the traitor onboard was
sacred ginkgo
Not stupid, just busy
worldly trellis
And it wasn't even a cool superspy traitor at that
worldly trellis
Not stupid, just busy
Busy with what
sacred ginkgo
Managing the entire war
worldly trellis
Sniffing Zola's farts as she does everything for him?
worldly trellis
I bet he isn't even the one commanding the armies
late osprey
damn get a load of the president of Rannick Hateria over here
sacred ginkgo
But in grand strategy he is the leader
worldly trellis
Morrow commands the strike teams of crackheads
worldly trellis
damn get a load of the president of Rannick Hateria over here
To be fair all of the inqusition squad look rather stupid
Especially Melk
worldly trellis
Eeeh
Sefoni is pretty cool I guess but I think she is part of Brahm's crew
Anyway as far as throne agents go these guys look like bunch of acolytes
They even brought a commissar onboard
dapper gyro
You talk like someone who never in position of head management.
worldly trellis
dapper gyro
It is a rogue trader ship, rogue traders are not just any imperial noble, they want payment. Things need to be sanctioned and decisions need to be made for that trade.
sacred ginkgo
They also have a paper signed by god that quite literally says they can do whatever the fuck they want
worldly trellis
Yeah I'm pretty sure inqusition just needs to ask them politely to do stuff
worldly trellis
Yeah that's what I said
Anyhow I think the whole operation on tertium is poorly managed
It is only offset by the fact of their rejects being crack injecting steroid junkies who slaughter heretics by the thousands each mission
late osprey
its a bit hard to tell when we dont evne know what the whole operation even is
sacred ginkgo
Anyhow I think the whole operation on tertium is poorly managed
Its almost like were fighting the best of the local regiments in a segmentum solar sector who have local population support
tough haven
It is only offset by the fact of their rejects being crack injecting steroid ju...
Honestly if current attrition rates keep up, surely we win, it’s gotta be easier to replenish crackheads than trained soldiers
arctic talon
tbh
lore wise we're def not killing that many moebians or cultists
The 6th would be extinct lol
late osprey
we are killing a disproportionately high amount apparently
dapper gyro
Most of the mission are more or less "covert mission".
It wouldn't translate very well into gameplay.
midnight wind
Also remember every wipe or death is a minus to our numbers
storm jungle
Anyhow I think the whole operation on tertium is poorly managed
Almost like the Imperium is hilariously incompetent
storm jungle
It is only offset by the fact of their rejects being crack injecting steroid ju...
Also theres very much a set "cast" of actual characters from the personalities, the only junkies/crackheads are literally the zealots. People I guess forget you are literally playing ex-guardsman veterans and ogryns who can rip open tanks with their bare hands
arctic talon
we are killing a disproportionately high amount apparently
well yeah, but the numbers even in sedition would drive the 6th extinct lol
storm jungle
Gameplay =/= Lore
arctic talon
yeah
dapper gyro
Lorewise, it is also hard to work on the ship.
You have like 4 factions of Imperial working together there.
arctic talon
also the largest we've ever had an individual guard regiment depicted
is 120,000 guardsmen
dapper gyro
Reunited by merely the think to the Big E.
arctic talon
and that was a meatgrinder regiment run by Checkov or whatever the fuck that vostryan dude was called
arctic talon
The moebian sixth would be much smaller, lets be generous and say there's like 50k Moebians
in the 6th
storm jungle
The issue is
arctic talon
and then they go traitor which cuts the regiment in half + casulties taken
storm jungle
theres no set size for a regiment
arctic talon
well yeah
dapper gyro
Rogue trader, Inquisition, mercenary and Ad Mech.
arctic talon
but I'd assume the moebians aren't like 100k+ soldiers by the time they get to tertium tbh
storm jungle
but id have definitely made/written it to be like, the 6th absorbed other traitors from fellow regiments of Moebians they were deployed to Nox Alpha with, that literally solves the entire numbers issue instantly
arctic talon
hell they could have started small
storm jungle
because that is still a huge number
arctic talon
but id have definitely made/written it to be like, the 6th absorbed other traito...
yeah def
storm jungle
and we got no idea how many they got
crystal forum
what lore
crystal forum
????
storm jungle
whats with the question marks
crystal forum
i need to look this up
storm jungle
who the fuck are you, the riddler?
crystal forum
no way this can be true
storm jungle
DONT DO IT
arctic talon
lets just assume the 6th used cadian styled regimental organization
so it caps out at 10,000 in a regiment
excluding officers and support staff
anyways yeah things aren't looking hot LOL
crystal forum
fucking guard numbers man
arctic talon
what
crystal forum
always way too low
arctic talon
how is 10k low
as a cap
when there's like multiple regiments present
on like every goddamn world
crystal forum
dude they lose like 400 a day
crystal forum
how many
storm jungle
as many as my mom demands
arctic talon
Idk do you want an example?
storm jungle
next question
crystal forum
no wolf i want your hand in marriage
dapper gyro
10k troop, you kill about 2000 unit in an Auric Maelstrom game, with most of them are groaners, so about 500-700 actual enemy troops, half of them are cultist.
So about 200-300 Moebian troops/game.
arctic talon
how many
Taros had 10 regiments present and 2 companies of Stormtroopers
except there were only 2 cadian regiments present
so 
dapper gyro
Which is still a lot, but does look right.
arctic talon
Taros ended with 10k dead, 15k injured and 20k captured by the Tau
crystal forum
except there were only 2 cadian regiments present
whar
crystal forum
why only 2
arctic talon
Why not?
crystal forum
oh was it mostly not cadian
arctic talon
Taros was mostly Tallaran forces
crystal forum
thats why they lost
arctic talon
not really
Taros got lost because the Tau brought the fatter guns
also the PDF went traitor
to the Tau and betrayed the Guard lol
crystal forum
who cares about the PDF
arctic talon
Idfk the guardsmen who are currently in a total encircelement because of the PDF?
who have Tau artillery pieces
crystal forum
how tf does that happen
arctic talon
Wdym how tf does that happen
the Tau had been cultivating the world for years to go traitor
crystal forum
you left out that part!!!
arctic talon
they started a minor mining insurrection and the PDF and the miners were working together
what happened was the Imperium expected to just stomp a mining rebellion, kill some water caste and fire caste nerds + a few traitor pdf to dust and remove the planetary govenor for "incompetence"
What they didn't count on was the entire world was literally working for the Tau lol
well not the entire world just like 90% of it, and the PDF had just purged any imperial sympathizers
dapper gyro
PDF are usually pretty big. People always seem to underestimate them.
arctic talon
yeah
There's a lot of them
they also got additional training from the Firecaste infiltrators
so they were more competent then your average PDF
dapper gyro
There are plenty example of PDF being as good as the Guard.
late osprey
Sorry Lore-Rationalizers ✋, the 180th is only 500 dudes.
crystal forum
there's way fucking more examples of PDF sucking ass
arctic talon
Sorry Lore-Rationalizers ✋, the 180th is only 500 dudes.
thats fine?
dapper gyro
Some of the guard regiments started out as PDF, that they deemed good enough to be sent to other planets for wars.
late osprey
i get the sense that PDF exist for Imperial Guard-focused stories the same reason Guard exist for Space Marine stories
crystal forum
yeah pdf exist to make the guard look good
crystal forum
thats a fringe example
they had training and equipment man
the one thing pdf lack usually
arctic talon
anyways here's who got sent to nachmund
as another example of a fuck ton of regiments lol
storm jungle
Really like what they do with these
arctic talon
and this is just like
storm jungle
2 official known regiments
arctic talon
a tiny list
storm jungle
tons of random ones
late osprey
we should normalize lore/schemes following Army Groups
arctic talon
tbh I think its great for homebrew
crystal forum
oodine is not a serious word
late osprey
"Entire Regiments are often combined into huge operational-level forces called Army Groups, commanded by generals or high marshals. These are highly variable in strength, consisting of any number of regiments, with some Army Groups only having as few as two. Other Army Groups contain many hundreds of regiments. An Army Group can be assembled to take and hold an entire planet or even a star system."
late osprey
oodine is not a serious word
i take back what i said about 40k and star wars having any meaningful difference in names at all
late osprey
sounds like you didnt find them interesting to begin with if a discord message is all it takes!
arctic talon
I do love how GW always
puts out a bunch of names
so you can take a canon faction for yourself if you want
arctic talon
and paint/develop them lol
crystal forum
yes a stinky nerd
arctic talon
like, its something thats really cool imo
late osprey
as for me? it's the Wutini Pwnerzs
crystal forum
you could also make your own name wolf
late osprey
dang i cant believe theres nerds in my niche hobby video game
worldly trellis
And on a serious server for warhammer lore too
crystal forum
sounds like i hit a nerd nerve
arctic talon
you could also make your own name wolf
yeah, but someone could also pick one from existing ones with no lore
crystal forum
literally what is the difference
late osprey
sure do be trolling
arctic talon
Some people want to develop on something canon
thats it lol
They want to make homebrew about a canon faction
they don't want to do something completely from scratch homebrew wise
late osprey
its a cool idea but i always get scared that the official writers are gonna define them and make me look like a total tool
crystal forum
we're talking just a name here wolf
late osprey
i respect the bravery of those homebrewers
crystal forum
just say your regiment was part of the unnamed regiments in the list
arctic talon
i respect the bravery of those homebrewers
I know someone who did the Iron Angels as that
and then GW killed the Iron Angels
late osprey
EXACTLY
worldly trellis
and then GW killed the Iron Angels
You mean made them angels
arctic talon
LOL
worldly trellis
Based GW
late osprey
its only ever a matter of time before a black library writer comes by and goes "hmmm the Yantish Firelances sound cool let's do a book where i kill them off"
arctic talon
who died to Vashtorr and his GOONS
crystal forum
you could also use a name generator like GW writers definitely use
late osprey
and your entire scheme is just reduced to tomfoolery
what you have to do is wait until GW does another "Canonize your Homebrew" contest
or White Dwarf specifically
and then bribe the shit out of the editors
late osprey
so you can lord over the rest of the homebrewing proles and not worry about Black Library at the same time
i only remember the one where they made the special print of the guy's pauldron
late osprey
and when i read that as a kid i thought that was the coolest thing ever
late osprey
when i got like
what
the 6th edition space marine codex
and i saw the blood ravens scheme in there
as like one single example tactical marine
i lost my mind
"DUUDE ITS ALL THE SAME UNIVERSE"
arctic talon
oh lmao
crystal forum
are iron angels a space marine chapter
arctic talon
The Shadow Wolves are from ADB's wife
arctic talon
are iron angels a space marine chapter
Yes
crystal forum
bruuuuh
arctic talon
they also had 90% of their chapter get murdered by Vashtorr and his goons
crystal forum
i was talking about guard
arctic talon
well
late osprey
marry a black library author and all Your Dudes automatically become canon
crystal forum
get that repainted shit out of here
arctic talon
still relevant tbh
late osprey
the principle's identical
arctic talon
you want a homebrew guard regiment thats become canon
there was this one
in a white dwarf
fucks sake lol
I'm gonah ave to do some digging brb
late osprey
frankly i like homebrew regiments that are modest reskins of the cadians
crystal forum
if you take a random fuckall name from lore for a regiment you wanna know what GW will do wolf
nothing
arctic talon
Ventrillian Nobels
crystal forum
because they never do shit with random guard regiments
late osprey
i get real tired of the "bro my regiment is literally just 20th century Imperial Warlord China but with chimeras" style homebrews
arctic talon
they're someones homebrew project which got shown off
late osprey
like we get it you love history
crystal forum
actual theft
late osprey
dragoon recolor? i fuck w/ it actually
late osprey
i just assumed from the hat
arctic talon
they are both egotistical dickbags though
crystal forum
the feather gives a tactical bonus
anyways im modelling my own custom regiment
that way im sure GW wont steal it
late osprey
Token Builder and its consequences have been a Renaissance for the Homebrewers.
crystal forum
what's token builder
arctic talon
oh there was also
that uh feudal guard regiment converted out of AoS and WHFB minis
late osprey
what's token builder
you're gonna love this
late osprey
it has most 40k content specifically around creating 2d kitbashes of guardsmen and other 40k dudes
arctic talon
oh boy
crystal forum
no i meant i model my own 3d printable regiment
vagrant fox
Token builder my goat
crystal forum
from scratch
late osprey
you asked what token builder was
late osprey
Token builder my goat
i use it to workshop stuff all the time
crystal forum
granted progress is extremely slow
and i dont recommend this to anybody
because it fucking sucks
late osprey
they have tau as well but there isnt as much object customization so it's most just for schemes
crystal forum
also i'd prefer comissioning somebody over getting a prefab like that
still trying to learn how to draw
late osprey
its a great resource for the less bourgeoisie in any event, i also like their historical stuff too
its pretty adaptable in that regard
late osprey
nice
i made a series of tokens for an Edge of Darkness oneshot i ran and it was able to pretty faithfully recreate the descriptions
crystal forum
the lasgun is meant to look like an AVT
arctic talon
its a great resource for the less bourgeoisie in any event, i also like their hi...
I'm ngl, if I see someone with a Nazi army in a historical wargame I'm less likely to think they're a nazi if I see someone with a sus paintjob in 40k
like not even joking
late osprey
I'm ngl, if I see someone with a Nazi army in a historical wargame I'm less like...
TRUE
nazi players in like Bolt Action are mostly just boomers who went nazi because someone has to
arctic talon
like if you paint your orks like brownshirts I will raise a fucking eyebrow
late osprey
like they just will tell you if it was just US v US it'd be super fucking boring
arctic talon
nazi players in like Bolt Action are mostly just boomers who went nazi because s...
tbh even newer people lol
crystal forum
SS cosplayers
arctic talon
its literally boring to have nothing but mirror stuff
now granted bolt actions like
italy stuff lowkey fucking sucks ass
late osprey
source: my grandfather is a german main in bolt action
arctic talon
LOL
crystal forum
also say german guys lol
arctic talon
No because its the fucking SS and wermarcht
crystal forum
is that really the only axis choice in bolt action
late osprey
you can be italy or japan i think
but
if your germany
thats nazis
lol
shees hadron im sorry
crystal forum
weird
arctic talon
is that really the only axis choice in bolt action
Italy, Japan, Nazis, The various other small nations get some options(mostly SS stuff)
crystal forum
i wouldn't want to play the nazi army
arctic talon
Nazi and Japan have the most fleshed out army for Axis powers
Brittish and Russia for the Allies
then America isn't far behind
crystal forum
this game was made by british people wasnt it
arctic talon
no one on the Bolt Action team seems to want to do Italy
yeah Warlord games are Bri'ish
crystal forum
makes sense
arctic talon
Warlord games was started by EX Gw employees
like 99% of british war gaming companies
oh also France exists for allied
worldly trellis
Wonder when we will get cowboy hat for veteran
I want gunmetal city gunslingers
That's a thing in warhammer 
late osprey
point being i agree w/ elitewolf's thesis
LITERAL nazi players are usually just like "look man someone has to + tanks look cool" or something
while Death Korps, Black Templar, or Meme players?
watch out for them
worldly trellis
Oh yes infamous Black Templar marches
late osprey
Oh yes infamous Black Templar marches
let's just say you could make a LOT of money gambling on a neonazi's favorite 40k faction
sacred ginkgo
As if anyone would take that kind of fixed bet with you
late osprey
i'd play the faction if it wasnt called nazis lmao
i really hate to tell you this about nazi germany but...
crystal forum
it just sounds bad man
late osprey
ok so to your point
crystal forum
"yeah im the nazi player"
late osprey
i dont think they're LITERALLY called nazis
but its my favorite shorthand
but if you like
opened the bolt action book it's called Wehrmacht or something slightly more dignified
crystal forum
i'd just say german
like there's a very clear difference between a german fan and a fucking SS uniform owning guy
late osprey
yeah, one plays Death Korps
crystal forum
which one
late osprey
the latter LOL
languid meadow
crystal forum
why so sad
cheer yourself up by opening up the 40k meme reddit page dilara
@storm jungle
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128>
aw god
crystal forum
poorly cropped ✅
watermark ✅
terrible ms.paint job ✅
text doesn't fit ✅
storm jungle
I hate it, why would you do this to me
crystal forum
I hate it, why would you do this to me
ok i like this one
storm jungle
ok i like this one
crystal forum
holy shit way too much text
vagrant fox
It's just really bad the entire time
storm jungle
except the end it sucks
crystal forum
i laughed though
arctic talon
Finished all three, I cried at EP8 i think
EP8 is fucking brutal
storm jungle
EP8 is fucking brutal
I hated it
Star Wars will never be this good
its fucking depressing man
arctic talon
worst part is you can see whats going to happen
the moment its like "walled in" like that
storm jungle
Also the guy knowing whats gonna happen too
arctic talon
yeah
storm jungle
but again, crowd mentality
arctic talon
The Empire also, wanted crowd crush to occur
which is why they arranged the barriers in a constrictive manner
beyond just like
you know the other thing
storm jungle
Literally every single part of that riot location was meticulously planned yeah
it was inevitable essentially, which is fucked up
arctic talon
it was inevitable essentially, which is fucked up
Ghorman was fucked from the start
storm jungle
christ man lmao
crystal forum
oh my god why is this shitty reddit filled with soyjack and chad memes about the imperium sucking
storm jungle
oh my god why is this shitty reddit filled with soyjack and chad memes about the...
because its correct
haha loser
crystal forum
no but it's not funny
storm jungle
it is
crystal forum
the way it's done
storm jungle
you just got bad humor
arctic talon
knowing they'll panic and open fire
the worst part is they don't even panic, they actually do their job
well
crystal forum
do you want proof dilara
arctic talon
until they get shot by someone else
storm jungle
no
arctic talon
storm jungle
arctic talon
Anyways
crystal forum
too late
crystal forum
storm jungle
false flag attack
vagrant fox
Here's an excerpt about why my faction would own yours in a meme format x50
arctic talon
crystal forum
fuck you
arctic talon
lol
vagrant fox
Chud Effect xenophile when Batarians
storm jungle
Yeah 1 comically evil alien race
amidst like what
50 cool ones
huge difference
meanwhile 40k
"Every alien bad."
vagrant fox
0 cool ones tho
storm jungle
Im pretty sure it was planned
vagrant fox
Actually Elcor are cool
arctic talon
he fits the batarian stereotype to a T aside from being a racist