40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

Jokes aside I think hell is going to freeze over before gsc get a non character unit

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-crying-spunchbop-gary-sad-gif-23822800

[tough haven]

Like a vehicle?

[arctic talon]

Anything really

I’d prefer infantry

[queen laurel]

if they even get an infantry i will eat my own leg

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-get-you-gif-1834222127792525549

[arctic talon]

To fit the worker uprising/insurgent vibe more

Gsc are pretty well rounded on insurgent vehicles

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flip-gif-25408082

[arctic talon]

Technical, mining truck technical, bikes

Not sure wtf else they’d get

Uhhhhhh a mining drill?

I guess?

I’d rather just GW start producing the tectonic fragdrill again

[queen laurel]

i'm surprised they don't have a bulldozer as like a super tank

[arctic talon]

They do

The Goliath rockgrinder

It’s a technical

[queen laurel]

no something even bigger than that

[arctic talon]

But it’s got a las cannon on it

[queen laurel]

Like their own equivalent of a bane blade

[arctic talon]

Tectonic fragdrill

Give it back

But make it better

[arctic talon]

Also they can take a baneblade anyways

Via brood bros

[queen laurel]

i see

[arctic talon]

Tectonic fragdrill

[queen laurel]

What the hell is imperium cooking

[arctic talon]

Big drill

[queen laurel]

**** it put this on a goliath truck

and make them kamikaze ram a fortress

[arctic talon]

The poor Goliath truck would prolly break

Lol

[queen laurel]

mount it in a truck rig then

[golden imp]

So with the eye of terror becoming huge and warp users getting a hella buff, did primarchs both chaos and loyalist also get stronger?

[winter vessel]

BEHOLD THE UNDERMINER!!!

[arctic talon]

Only chaos, none of the active loyalist primarchs are psykers

[rose thorn]

GW GIVE GSC THIS BACK PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

IT IWLL FIX THE FUCKING ARMY

yeah im planning out my mental rules

also why does eveyrone use the parody account tag???

idk its relaly weird

[outer wave]

You don't even try to keep an account open just to see shit takes? Probably is much healthier long term to block everyone but still

[plush mason]

why not logging or farming equipment?

why are the GSC always using mining/manufactoring stuff?

[crystal forum]

hey did you guys see the video on grummz

you think this warhammer loser is the same

[arctic talon]

Because they’re usually on those sorts of worlds

[crystal forum]

some middle aged freak with multiple skeletons in his closet

[plush mason]

i know but we know they can be on agriworlds

[crystal forum]

also why do you guys use twitter

just fucking stop

[rose thorn]

irony

[plush mason]

so like a mini that is literally one of those massive harvesting tractors they have turned into a fuck off weapons platform would be epic imo

[rose thorn]

yeah thats what we have

the rock grinder is used for alot of stuff

[plush mason]

no i mean the massive ones

[queen laurel]

You mean the Goliath truck?

[rose thorn]

yeah, im pretty sur eits mentioned the rockginder ong the goliath is also used for meat processing and farming and shit

[plush mason]

iirc some agriworlds have what are effectively combine harvesters but the size of those old strip mining excavators

[vast heart]

Guys I have a question. What do you think the least lore-friendly tabletop matchup would be?

I feel like a Tau vs Tau mirror is the one that probably makes the least sense to happen, as far as I’m aware there’s not a lot of infighting amongst Tau in general but idk if there’s anything I’m not thinking of

[sacred ginkgo]

There is always a reason

[vast heart]

Like the overall universe does a pretty good job of being written in a way where almost every tabletop matchup sorta makes sense to happen but which one is pushing it the furthest

Like Genestealers vs Tyranids always seemed slightly funny to me bc I don’t think the GSC forces would actively fight the Tyranids outside of being sleeper cells in whatever guard was on the planet, but I can still see it

Tau vs tau is the only one I can’t really think of a precedent for outside of farsight enclaves

[rose thorn]

Nids vs gsc
Greyknights vs normal marines
Admech vs imperial knights

[queen laurel]

eldar too

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah and greyknights or sisters vs agents of the imperium

And deathwatch vs agents

[vast heart]

As in craftworld mirror? Bc yeah I see that too

[dapper gyro]

DW vs GK is pretty wild.

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[dapper gyro]

If that happens, it's mean the inquisition no longer exists.

[rose thorn]

Gks vs xenos is really hard

[dapper gyro]

It is hard but possible if they need to fight psychic xenos.

DW can do the same as well.

[vast heart]

Could you answer the imperial matchups with “other army was accused of heresy?”

Bc I kinda blanket excused all of the imperium matchups bc stuff like that means they expunge their own troops a fair bit

[arctic talon]

Yeah, or someone’s honor was offended lol

Craftworld Eldar on craftworld eldar

Is the weirdest imo

[late osprey]

Craftworld v Craftworld, Nid v Nid, Ork v Ork, Tau v Tau, all up there on the list of hard to explain imo

[queen laurel]

what's hard with orks to explain?

they literally fight each other out of boredom

[late osprey]

Orks famously don't infight.

[plush mason]

huh

[queen laurel]

orks don't fight each other?

[plush mason]

they view mutinies as in flight entertainment

[queen laurel]

yeah they would start a brawl over who gets to keep something

[plush mason]

orks do nothing but fight

if they dont have something else to fight they fight each other

[queen laurel]

Even all the way from fantasy they literally fight each other so much they can't unite

It takes an especially vicious war boss to keep them in cohesion

[plush mason]

and even that will be short lived

[queen laurel]

even if it can be longer than that, brawls bar fights any type of contest that would literally kill an ork is a popular entertainment

Goffs literally engage in their favorite tradition of head butting contests

[plush mason]

speed freaks hold literal death run style races

[shadow plover]

Nid infighting has been explained as a tendril consuming the other one for more biological information whilst learning from the fighting tactics of the other to better the victor

[dapper gyro]

It is a way to force mutation.

[late osprey]

didnt know this actually, nice

i figured there would be SOMETHING like that but i never saw it

[queen laurel]

if orks were truly united let me tell you one thing

they would have conquered a good chunk of the universe and would be hard to stop

[late osprey]

I don't know how to read, unfortunately.

[dapper gyro]

Not going to lie, reading is overrated.

/s just in case

[late osprey]

TRUE

more of a vibes guy myself

[arctic talon]

[opaque coyote]

Dude they

That is like

Their main thing

[late osprey]

They're actually one of the more harmonious factions internally.

[queen laurel]

oh trust me that's only the case with a good ork leader

if they don't have that

they will kill and destroy each other

hell even with a leader they will kill each other for fun

[opaque coyote]

Like Bulgur said, only if they have a good Warboss.

And 99% of the time they don't

And also usually the Orks will occasionally try to krump their own warboss

[queen laurel]

that too

[opaque coyote]

Because Might makes Right

But generally

Trying to kill your leader is bad for having a focused front

Shocking

[opaque coyote]

How many warbosses are actually like

Competent in leading

I think it depends right?

[queen laurel]

many examples but

most them just brute strenght their way to victory

[opaque coyote]

I think it's kinda like a commissar situation

Where in lore, most commissars are probably huge assholes but we only really follow the competent ones

[queen laurel]

yeah that

[tall plinth]

Onions

[celest dome]

Even in lore, the incompetent, trigger happy ones tend to die due to guardsmen reprisals

[celest dome]

Hadn't seen this one

Whisper Merchant and Psychoteric Thrall.

Whisper Merchant look so cool

[astral burrow]

Is the merchant the left one?

I love it

[celest dome]

Yes

Whisper Merchant would look great as a Delaque Psyker/Boss

[queen laurel]

yeah whisper merchants are awesome

[opaque coyote]

True

[opaque coyote]

But he just gets replaced by another one

[queen laurel]

Silberlant Sevos

[astral burrow]

Delaque?

[opaque coyote]

Gaming Servitor

Man lobotomized himself to play League of Legends

[celest dome]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures_(Clan_Houses)#House_Delaque

[queen laurel]

a group of psychic hivemind linked people, they are master assassins and posssess the biggest information links in necromunda

[astral burrow]

Why they so pale

[queen laurel]

uhhh

no one knows?

it definitely has something to do with their psychic mind

[vagrant fox]

It's the dolphin squids from inner munda who are to blame

[opaque coyote]

How does the Hivemind even work?

Like is it the type where they're all connected in thought and feeling

Or just can occasionally be like

"oh hey what's up guys, do you know where we can find X in Necromunda."

[celest dome]

The Psychoterica isn't like the GS Hive mind and more like inherited memory (of the creator of the Psychoterica), and some warp like feeling between member of it

[astral burrow]

To get into 40k do I need to read the previous 39999 Warhammers?

And how many times did someone ask that?

[shadow plover]

You really just need the books 1-262 and 3821, 4444 and the ones between 39500-39999

5000-39500 was the glub shitto -era so none cares about that

[queen laurel]

you're actually the first one to in awhile

[astral burrow]

Let's goooo

[astral burrow]

Aw but I like glup shittos...

Might start with 2025, I have a cameo in it

[sharp pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/607961919227297876/1368853970646339674/XLhK3YFNWbw.jpg?ex=6819bc1a&is=68186a9a&hm=c5b501c896572611ec16777b572edc9051208e2a0cf14da7ea73946e48843ff0&

guys what chapter is this?

[astral burrow]

Drum magazine bolter

Whoa

[shadow plover]

Not sure of sarcastic or genuine but that's a Votann

[queen laurel]

that's votaan for you

[sharp pollen]

sarcastic, but i am so tired rn so i completely forgor about votann existence

[astral burrow]

I don get the joke

[raven stone]

Something about trolling a certain segment of the fan base (that deserves trolling)

[astral burrow]

People who don't want tiny characters? Or people who don't want female characters?

[storm jungle]

Its trolling votann/space-dwarf fans where some people think they look like space marines.

[queen laurel]

They're not space marines

they're better

[spare osprey]

Sure thing bud

[celest dome]

They are though

[queen laurel]

I mean they genuinely have better technology what else do you want

[spare osprey]

Listen only one of us have actually cool men of iron

I think that speaks to who’s better

[celest dome]

The Votaan ?

[queen laurel]

Yeah iron cunts versus respected members of society

[celest dome]

The Ironkin ?

On what side are either of you arguing for ?

[spare osprey]

Ironkin vs Excindio

PLUS

[queen laurel]

seriously?

[spare osprey]

The votaan’s ironkin have turned on them before.

[spare osprey]

maybe Yes

[queen laurel]

so you think that tortured and brutalise robots that went through the concentration camp treatment is better than something like this?

[golden imp]

Average votann no diff’s a space marine

I can’t post a picture

I made a funny meme

[queen laurel]

you know robots that are actually respected and welcomed into the society

[storm jungle]

They arent but yeah.

[spare osprey]

100%

[storm jungle]

Oh wait i thought you meant "no different" whoops

my bad

[queen laurel]

yeah you definitely fit in the imperium 100%

you are definitely a marine's malevolent main

[spare osprey]

Listen man, if my robot is acting up

[golden imp]

Nah I had a funny meme I made the one “where is the votann” with the space marines gut hiding the votann underneath them

[spare osprey]

It’s nice to be able to press a button

And it nukes itself

[golden imp]

But it won’t let me post it

Oh wait

[storm jungle]

Lmao on cue

[summer mural]

kharadron overlords are the best votann, that one guy has literal guns in his beard

[spare osprey]

Also found it. I wish they did more stuff with vashtorr

[celest dome]

Kharadron are the most fun models in any of the setting tbh

[queen laurel]

that's Brokk Grungsson

[summer mural]

yeah

the barak narr guy?

[queen laurel]

yes lord Magnate of Barak-nar

[summer mural]

deepkin and ko have some pretty dope models

even sylvaneth do tbh

that one team team with the fused tree and elf guys is pretty good

the only aos models I havent liked concept wise are lumineth

the excessive hysh attachment and bullhorns dont do it for me

also tyrion and teclis can go ***** themselves

[celest dome]

Ye, Lumineth and Fyreslayer are not great

[summer mural]

fyreslayer look great, problem is the sameness

[celest dome]

I dislike thier loincloths

Old Slayers had pants

[summer mural]

I cant see their loincloths past the beards lol

they have bigger beards than the old slayers

[queen laurel]

To be fair when you get mad i look at you like you're a fire slayer

[celest dome]

[queen laurel]

@rose thorn https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2pgti3di/prepare-for-the-next-generals-handbook-with-the-scourge-of-ghyran/

[spring cairn]

the beard should be enough

get rid of the loincloth

[rose thorn]

HPLY SHI HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT VARIANT WARSCROLLS SOUND AMAIZNG

[rose thorn]

HOLY SHIT HOKY SHIT

AAAAA

[spare osprey]

NEW KNIGHT RAHHHH

I like the face

[queen laurel]

a energy weapon knight

that's actually different

[spare osprey]

Plus a void shield

Walking bunker

[queen laurel]

this thing has energy weapons and has shielding equivalent to titans and warships?

[spare osprey]

Seems so

[shadow plover]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/yom5sqsp/imperial-knights-revealed-the-knight-defender-is-the-greatest-building-sized-bodyguard-in-the-imperium/

the full article

[spare osprey]

“The Knight Defender is a walking reliquary of ancient technology, boasting arcane energy relays strong enough to handle the immense strain of its rare and powerful weapons – a blazing plasma executor and the extraordinarily lethal conversion beam obliterator. Most distinctive of all is the bulbous void shield generator mounted on the top of its chassis, providing even greater protection than the usual ion shields in a flickering dome that can envelop other nearby allies.”

Excited for the chaos lads

We know it’s gonna have a rocket launcher

[queen laurel]

@rose thorn

[spare osprey]

Same style

And it looks to be in the little like

Armpit

Weapon that most knights have

[shadow plover]

probably these two as well

[queen laurel]

An imperial knight with a siege drill?

[shadow plover]

mmmaybe

[queen laurel]

That's something i want to see

[shadow plover]

I think it would be pretty great

[queen laurel]

It seems to be a supportive night as well

[spare osprey]

Mhm

[queen laurel]

Literally turning into a bunker with enough energy weapons to give a laser show a run for its money

[spare osprey]

Honestly it’s not a bad idea

Imperial’s get a defensive knight

Chaos gets a super offensive one, siege drill, flamers and rockets

[queen laurel]

Yeah and maybe now we have an imperial night that doesn't immediately go down getting breathe on with multiple shots

And also help out other fellow knights

[rose thorn]

LETS FUCKINHBGOOO

This looks so stupid I’m in love

[queen laurel]

See i told you to to just grit your teeth

You will get good things

And you got an aos reveal and a knight reveal

[rose thorn]

IM SK EXCITED FOR VARIENT WARSCROLLS

ITS GONNA CHANGE THE META SO MUCH

[spare osprey]

Nah different things

[crystal forum]

if it's a new HH dreadnought i'm laughing at all of you

new variant for

[arctic talon]

Nah

You can see the questoris chasis

[crystal forum]

there's still the shield variant for the deredeo that hasnt been added

and it's in the rules

[arctic talon]

Yeah

But the missile launcher doesn’t line up with that

You can literally see

The questoris chasis with it

[crystal forum]

at least it doesnt look like imperialis

actually imagine an imperialis rumor engine

just 1 pixel

[arctic talon]

Lol

The missile pod is 100% chaos knight related

I will stand by this

[storm jungle]

We can destroy Jay at once when its out

🙏

https://tenor.com/view/gato-misil-gif-25497374

[crystal forum]

i just dont get what the point of a melee questoris is

[raven stone]

I see that rumour thing really IS a Void Shield generator.

[crystal forum]

isn't there dedicated knights for melee

[raven stone]

At any rate, new knight type means new potential Imperial Agents allying in.

That looks like it has enough firepower to level tank columns.

[storm jungle]

"the point"

there is none for any 40k model

its what looks cool and functions on tabletop

[crystal forum]

isn't questoris the biggest knight that isnt resin

it's like the basic bitch

[spring cairn]

can they make one out of raisin for a change

[arctic talon]

No that’s Dominus

[arctic talon]

Go fast and smash shit

[crystal forum]

alright well when you put it that way it does sound metal as fuck

the noble knight pilot going into battle with a giant flamer and mining drill

[raven stone]

Now the only question left is

Is GW going to be smart enough to include 2 sets of points values for allying in Knights

[vagrant fox]

200 darktide coins on these being dreadnought bits

[raven stone]

Like they have with Imperial Agents

[arctic talon]

Also we know what the energy shield deredeo looks like

GW showed it off

Ages ago

[crystal forum]

show

[crystal forum]

i thought you said GW doesnt do these showcases anymore

[arctic talon]

I said ages ago

[crystal forum]

damn

[arctic talon]

This was like

[crystal forum]

well the shield unit looks pre production

[arctic talon]

Early 8e late 7e

Yeah

[crystal forum]

jesus

[arctic talon]

It was a prototype

[crystal forum]

for some reason i expect something like those radar planes

a big dish

[storm jungle]

thats like 20 years ago

[arctic talon]

No it’s not

I’m not that old

[storm jungle]

Yes it is.

[queen laurel]

aging blast

A favorite move among the people here

[arctic talon]

7e started in 2014 you can’t trick me

[storm jungle]

2014 is like 20 years ago

its also 2 years after the end of the world

smh

[crystal forum]

2012 reference in 2025

[median star]

i think dialara might be ancient

[vagrant fox]

dubious preposition

[crisp heath]

"A Banisher is a scholar-priest of the Ecclesiarchy equally skilled at both delving into the forbidden knowledge required to understand the nature of Daemons and eradicating Daemonic forces with fire and chainsword" "To be a Banisher is to seek out knowledge many believe is best left buried. They combine lore with great faith in the Emperor, without failing to bring a flamer to bear should it be necessary. Their will is fortified by their intense piety against the madness which accompanies such endeavours, for they must go where few dare. They must be prepared to face many horrors in their search for manuscripts, ancient legends, and even the True Name of a powerful Daemon."

[crystal forum]

ok

which fandom wiki page did you get this from

[queen laurel]

The final form of the zealot

bro looks like he can humble a marine

[crystal forum]

fucking called it

just another ecclesiarchy unit you'll never see anywhere because that faction has no cohesion at all on tabletop

[storm jungle]

Pretty much. And they arent really suppose to have a standing army so it works.

This is RPG stuff.

[crystal forum]

kinda sucks though. they'd make a fun army of zealots

not sisters of silence just average crazy people

[storm jungle]

The lore says its not allowed boyo

back into the church-pens you go

[tough haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/135396763564638208/1368948230104158310/candle_that_replaces_brain_with_lead_heavy_cat_head_drop_sleep_dead.mov?ex=681a13e3&is=6818c263&hm=a7db8dc0fc73a1056c8933cc4e3a23782903c99d1b69f60489be6761b6bdf449&

candle that turns you into a space marine/HH fan

[crystal forum]

if only ferrus manus smelled that candle before fighting fulgrim

[queen laurel]

he smelled this

[crystal forum]

is that like helldiver's eagle sweat

[queen laurel]

I don't know scented warhammer candles were apparently a thing

[tough haven]

Yeah theres a nurgle candle

[crystal forum]

remember to light up your warhammer brand candles next to you when you're spraying primer

[queen laurel]

Also imperial guard

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195404877688602624/1369001322963140759/IMG_5761.png?ex=681a4556&is=6818f3d6&hm=d886882fcb9c919788ea9561ee64eef88eb7bb5061ad17b0b167c9d072e11627&

[opaque coyote]

The fuck does that even smell like?

Rotting flesh and

Plants?

If it's Catachan specifically anyways

[queen laurel]

well let me tell you it smells certainly better than this

[tall plinth]

So lemme get this straight, it was through faith that they fortify their souls- what does that specifically mean?

[storm jungle]

Pray and hope for the best against corruption

not build brick walls

[tall plinth]

So faith is a tangible force?

[queen laurel]

They use all of the power of belief and their religion to ward off evil

[queen laurel]

well yes

you see since a lot of people believe that the emperor is a god

[storm jungle]

Yea, has been for like 20 years

[queen laurel]

his powers are becoming more and more you know a thing

[tall plinth]

I see

So despite the emperor not being a fan of religion and all that, religion, with the tangible forces which faith can create, has become one of the things protecting humanity thus far

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[tall plinth]

Neat

[crystal forum]

that's the ironic part yeah

one could say the HH writers did that on purpose

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-7th-gif-25706023

[outer wave]

Imagine inviting a date over and lighting up multiple Nurgle scented candles

[nocturne crest]

Man, that new knight looks dope.

[distant marsh]

Can ogryns use some sort of las weapon of any kind?

[crystal forum]

i could see one using a lascanon

[vagrant fox]

I think they can use lascannons in Only War

Or maybe I'm remembering a multi-laser, either way they can sorta yea

[crystal forum]

you're a filthy liar aren't you

[vagrant fox]

I'm old and senile and everything is half remembered

[nocturne crest]

So odd question, but who here would be for or against having the inquisition turn up as a playable faction in Necromunda?

[civic scroll]

who isnt on Necromunda in some capacity?

[storm jungle]

No point in it imo

[celest dome]

To the level of Houses, no.
To the level of the big groups (Nomads, Enforcers...) no

[storm jungle]

Necromunda is all about underhive warfare

[celest dome]

But some bounty Hunters

[storm jungle]

its all about exploring the unexplored in smaller scale 40k stuff

[civic scroll]

oooooh, I'm learning today

[nocturne crest]

I see.

I'm just wondering because of the current stuff with Hive Secundus in Necromunda, would that bring the inquisition in?

[queen laurel]

Here's the thing necromoda is a master of revisionist information

They are so good at keeping things on that planet their problem that

Outside forces don't even bother interfering

As long as they do what they are expected to do for the imperium they are afforded freedom

They also again handle their own problems

Because outsiders can bring in a whole slew of issues

[arctic talon]

12 people high off their ass on chems shanking each other in a back alley

[dapper gyro]

You literally needs Nurgle to reproduce. Chaos gods are not always chaos, and Nurgle is also god of life.

So using that candles, you are asking to have children.

[outer wave]

Ngl thats not a bad thought process within Nurglite cultist traditions

Stagnate by starting a family and making more viral vectors

[opaque coyote]

Tbh Chaos Gods are more like

Really, really, REALLY powerful Tulpas

Basically birth, death, decay was there before Nurgle

Nurgle isn't Birth, Death, Decay, etc.

He's just a really powerful representation of how those things are viewed

The non-benevolent side.

If there was no conscious thought, Nurgle wouldn't exist

But because there is, he began to form.

However, I think he only became shitty ba dum tss due to how all the conscious living things viewed death and decay.

Obviously as bad.

[dapper gyro]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

Nihilism and the pointlessness of life

[dapper gyro]

The believe of Chaos being bad itself makes them worse.

The Chaos cultists are thrist for power, so they have to think of it as bad as well.

[opaque coyote]

Chaos probably would've always existed.

However I don't think it would've affected too much... If it wasn't for the numerous fuck ups

[dapper gyro]

Therefore, getting the "gift".

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I like to think that the delusional concepts of Khorne representing Honor for example

Was true at one point

But the bad so overweighed the good that it just fucking disappeared

[dapper gyro]

Chaos only exists where there is the present of sentient being.

Also, there are deep warp, and deep real space.

[opaque coyote]

Also there is apparently the deep warp, which in fluff remains a mystery.

But essentially, even the Chaos Gods are deeply afraid at what lays beyond the "surface".

[dapper gyro]

Both of which are far reach from chaos for deep warp, and from real space being for deep real space.

[opaque coyote]

Which is

Terrifying tbh

And I love it

[dapper gyro]

You have the Ghoul stars, which is within the boundary of the galaxy, and Chaos gods avoid that place like plague.

[opaque coyote]

I kinda wish they would expand a little more on the deeper parts of the warp

But at the same time it would diminish the mystery so I'm quite mixed about the concept lmao

[dapper gyro]

I think it is best to let it me ambiguous.

[opaque coyote]

The idea of there being dead gods just waiting there

Staring at the Chaos Gods

Waiting for no reason

Half formed corpses of deities waiting

[opaque coyote]

For their turn in the limelight

[dapper gyro]

I believe the souls of primarchs, stated to be formed from godlike being, are not from the warp.

[lament shoal]

McDorn's got rid of their primarch themed wraps??? FUCK

[opaque coyote]

I think the Emperor made some type of deal with the Chaos Gods to get his powers.

And since they are literally his biological sons, it would probably be from well

The Emps

Considering how some of their genesons have instabilities and curses. It's probably the Chaos Gods basically uh

...

It's like an Amazon delivery driver fucking up your package

[lament shoal]

He made a deal with the chaos gods to give him the ability to create the primarchs in exchange for offering all of humanity to chaos and becoming the 5th chaos god. After creating the primarchs, Big E went back on his deal, which pissed off the chaos gods and drove them to hide the primarchs across the universe in retaliation

[opaque coyote]

"Here you go, one Geneseed for the Thousand Sons."

"Why is there some type of thing called Flesh Change with i- HEY GET BACK HERE!"

Tzeentch running away while cackling and jumping into the front side seat

"STEP ON IT SLAANESH!"

Soundboard-esque moan plays as Slaanesh steps on the gas pedal

VRRROOOOMMMM

[lament shoal]

Slaanesh drives a fucking tesla, I knew it

[dapper gyro]

Slaanesh is desire without accomplishment.

[opaque coyote]

Slaanesh would be the type of drive a Cybertruck purely to see the disgust on people's faces

Or would that be Nurgle

[dapper gyro]

If love is to reproduction and not recreational, then Slaanesh would gets away less power.

[opaque coyote]

I mean it rusts after all

[dapper gyro]

If reproduction is kind of farming without love, then it is Nurgle fuel.

[lament shoal]

I bet she cackles every time some dumb fuck imperial noble decides its a good idea to wear a halo device

[opaque coyote]

Slaanesh would get much more power from unloving relationships than Nurgle in my opinion.

[opaque coyote]

My headcanon is that Slaanesh occasionally like

Pulls out a soundboard and spams canned sexual moans throughout the warp

And every ship traveling through there, the eye of terror, etc. just hears shitty moans throughout their trip

[dapper gyro]

At the end of the day, Buddhism is the answer.

/s

[opaque coyote]

Until Khorne barges in and physically assaults her to get her to shut the fuck up

Or him

Or they

Or it

Or xe/xim

...

Or

[lament shoal]

She's all of those things so it really don't matter what you call her lol

[lament shoal]

Nurgle would drive a garbage truck

[opaque coyote]

One cult back in like the 1st edition? Made up specific pronouns for them.

Personally I think that Slaanesh would steal pronouns from people

Lemme find the tweet

This type of shit

The person just can't physically refer to themselves in any pronoun

They have to talk in the 3rd person for the rest of their lives

[dapper gyro]

Actually, that's smart. You don't have to think about conjugating the verbs anymore.

[opaque coyote]

In general, my... headcanon(?) is that Slaanesh and Tzeentch are more like rivals than truly hating each other

Like they still try to take over territory and kill each other, but there's less malice compared to Khorne and Slaanesh for example

Since there's not much "overlap" between their concepts tbh

"Perfection" doesn't really tie in well with "Planning and scheming endlessly"

Then again Slaanesh is more "The endless pursuit" rather than actual perfection

[astral burrow]

oh lol, they kinda do, but like, so does everyone with armor i guess

[nocturne crest]

So new odd question, but would it make sense for a new Helbrute upgrade or model to show up in the future?

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats not that out of line

[median star]

do arbites have any unique to them weapons

[late osprey]

"You know, we're not really always about plagues and killing and stuff. Nurgle's really nuanced when you think about it, he also advocates growth and prosperity."

[arctic talon]

Unique shotguns and melees

It’s a unique pattern in lore

[median star]

does it shoot special shells or something or is it just a oh theyre shotguns are made with better materials situation

[mossy peak]

do loyalists or heretics control hl1736

[mossy peak]

i mean there sure are things growing on him

[late osprey]

diseases and parasites specifically

he's not a walking botanical garden

if Nurgle really was some life god, he probably wouldn't have The Purge as some of his top guys https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Purge

what is grown seemingly is exclusively with intent to destroy other things and, as they are diseases, inevitably die themselves

[arctic talon]

Shotguns are just better and they get nicer ammo. They also have some weird snipers and shotgun pistols

[plush mason]

dont they have taser ammo for the shotguns?

[arctic talon]

Prolly

I forgor

[tough haven]

Why would they need that?

[plush mason]

are the riot shields unique to them too or do other factions in the imperium have them too?

[tough haven]

Death to the traitor

[tough haven]

Repression shields I think are unique

[plush mason]

they do take prisoners for interrogation

the arbitus fort is a massive prison

[tough haven]

Usually with net guns, shock batons, or cyber mastiffs to restrain

[plush mason]

yeah the taser ammo iirc is a special option

[tough haven]

If they pull out the shotgun, your sentence has been decided as death

[arctic talon]

They have 2 unique types of shield

The assault shield and the suppression shield

[plush mason]

all the more reason i wanted the dlc to add shields

but familiars are a good trade off

[crystal forum]

it's funny because even though arbites are memed as making up laws whenever they feel like it they still do actually follow strict rules

[plush mason]

its not like they would need too

the high lords make up new laws every single day

[crystal forum]

i think high lords do get shit done tbh

they have the incentive of making more money

[arctic talon]

The high lords have an awful job

Lol

There’s a reason most of them burn out

[crystal forum]

like yeah they squabble a lot but they still do their jobs imo

[crystal forum]

to me it's like having a high level government job that isn't in politics. it's extremely stressful to make logistics run smoothly

also everybody hates you

[arctic talon]

Well that comes with the job

[crystal forum]

is it even worth it to be a high lord of terra

as opposed to just being a private rich guy

[arctic talon]

Fuck no lol

You will be miserable mostly

The only thing you’ll get is power

But you can’t even abuse it that much

[crystal forum]

well it does give you access to a fucking space marine chapter

[arctic talon]

No it doesn’t(technically)

[crystal forum]

why

[arctic talon]

They’re most loyal to the administratum

[crystal forum]

naaaah

come on who gives them all their shit

administratum doesn't have HH era gear

[arctic talon]

It is the administratum

The master of the administratum is their sugar daddy mommy

[crystal forum]

isn't that a high lord of terra

minotaurs are so evil man

[arctic talon]

Yeah it’s one specific high lord

That they’re the most loyal to

[arctic talon]

They’re a bunch of bullies and it’s great

[crystal forum]

they hold no values is what i find wild

they're straight up lapdogs

the inquisition aligned astartes make sense since hating chaos and shit

but just wanting to fight for gear is wild for a supposed loyalist astartes

[arctic talon]

They want glory, violence and loot

Also to make their patron happy

[late osprey]

being a rogue trader is probably the sweetest gig in the Imperium tbh

[arctic talon]

Funniest shit ever in 7e

[late osprey]

i dont think you even have an intrinsic crosshair on your back, like inquisitors do

[arctic talon]

Was that they had
Hatred: Space Marine

Not chaos space marines

space marines

[late osprey]

Minotaurs really are THAT guy of chapters

always going as a single force, preference for teamkilling

if i were a space marine captain id be so mad if i had to fight minotaurs

not because they're mean or whatever, but because they always cheese by bringing 1000 marines

vs my 200

like im sorry for actually taking the war seriously, assholes

[arctic talon]

Go go entire chapter

[late osprey]

i feel they go as a chapter specifically to abuse the fact that other chapters rarely are

[arctic talon]

Prolly

They’re literal bullies

[crystal forum]

if minotaurs was written by a fan instead of GW they'd be laughed off as OP

[arctic talon]

Tbf their actual performance is mediocre

[late osprey]

if they WERE any good they wouldnt need to bring 1000 marines everywhere they go

[arctic talon]

They just often outnumber and outgun whoever they’re jumping

Lol

[crystal forum]

yeah they can't be too elite or they'd compete with the other main character chapters

[arctic talon]

Moloc isn’t even a super good duelist

[crystal forum]

they just

have all the gear

[arctic talon]

Moloc just looks terrifying

And has aura

[late osprey]

do they actually pick their targets or do they just hope the High Lords dont send them to get coalition'd to death attacking macragge

[arctic talon]

Now granted he could prolly paste the average marine

[late osprey]

or something

[arctic talon]

The high lords tell them to deal with a problem with violence

And they solve it with violence

[crystal forum]

high lords wouldn't want to actually piss off a big chapter

[arctic talon]

Tbf

The Minotaurs did piss off the UM

They’re banned from entering ultramar

[crystal forum]

lmao

the entire sector?

[late osprey]

i mean STRICTLY speaking, even the first founding chapters couldnt do too terribly much entirely on their own

but they do have their discord servers of all their successors

[arctic talon]

They absolutely beat the fuck out of 2 second founding UM successors

And stole a bunch of their shit

[crystal forum]

well yeah they're UM successors

[arctic talon]

Because the administratum told the Minotaurs to settle their honor dispute

[crystal forum]

they're made to die

[arctic talon]

And the Minotaurs told them stop arguing or else we’ll make you stop arguing

To the like 2 marine companies present

They kept on arguing so the Minotaurs do what Minotaurs do

Which is violently beating the shit out of people

[crystal forum]

i want to see minotaurs starting a fight and then like a founding chapter battle barge arrives

and see them shit their pants

[arctic talon]

Tbh they’d still fight them

Is the funniest thing

They only retreat once they’re actually losing

[late osprey]

unless its a massive chapter they might even still win

[arctic talon]

Which is hilarious

[late osprey]

its still an entire chapters worth of marines

[arctic talon]

Yeah they decided to take on a massive fleet of death guard

They didn’t retreat until over 70% of the chapter was dead or wounded

And their geneseed stores got corrupted

Lol

[late osprey]

100 blood angels is still only 100

itd be dante calling all of the X of Blood or the Blood X's to dogpile them that'd be the concerning part

[arctic talon]

But yeah they ran from the deathguard due to losing too many

[crystal forum]

and somehow guilliman wont do anything about this

[arctic talon]

And having their geneseed stores messed up

[arctic talon]

Well yeah

They’re his attack dogs now

[late osprey]

i think minotaurs are also kinda like

[crystal forum]

he literally

owns the UM

[late osprey]

irrelevant in the galactic scale of things

[arctic talon]

Yeah also that

They’re literally a stick

[plush mason]

how do the imperial fists view the minotaurs?

[arctic talon]

Badly

No one likes them

[crystal forum]

they suck

[arctic talon]

The Minotaurs have no friends

[late osprey]

most of why they exist without getting Coalition'd to death seemingly is because they're still beneath most people's notice

[arctic talon]

Well

They have 1 friend

[crystal forum]

let me guess

cypher

[plush mason]

so like, are both chapters headquartered on/around terra?

[arctic talon]

Also they’d never get exocomunicated

[late osprey]

nah i just mean like

[arctic talon]

Yeah Minotaurs are fleet based technically

[late osprey]

a bunch of chapters getting together to pwn them

[arctic talon]

But they’re around terra a lot

[late osprey]

Imperial Fist's home is the death star iirc

[arctic talon]

Lol

[late osprey]

they just love recruiting Terran nobles

[arctic talon]

Yeah it’s the phalanx

The Minotaurs got sent by guilliman to Octarius and Vigilus to keep an eye

On people he didn’t trust

[crystal forum]

they must piss off founding chapters so fucking much by having leviathan dreads with warriors that are less than 1k year old in them

[arctic talon]

[late osprey]

why nobles? idk maybe Dorn was a big believer in the Three Estates

[arctic talon]

Which is hilarious

The UM hate the minos

Guilliman doesn’t mind them

[plush mason]

which afaik spends most of it's time in orbit of terra

[arctic talon]

Nah

It is usually in segmentum Solar though

[late osprey]

isnt it often in big warzones?

[crystal forum]

literally doing nothing

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[late osprey]

at least in bfg:a2 they sped that shit all the way across the galaxy

[arctic talon]

It gets sent to awful warzones a lot

[arctic talon]

Btw that was immediately after the phalanx got invaded by daemons LOL

[late osprey]

yeah if they kept the phalanx out of combat then the imperial fists couldn't easily get themselves killed (their favorite passtime)

[arctic talon]

LOL

[crystal forum]

barotrauma type shit

[plush mason]

tbf its a giant ass space station, it just being there can fuck with any attack plans

[arctic talon]

But yeah the Minotaurs are tolerated by guilliman which is the funniest shit ever

[crystal forum]

he also sucks

[tough haven]

I wanna play more barotrauma but my friends don’t wanna 😦

[crystal forum]

play random lobbies and find friends

[arctic talon]

Nah the Minotaurs slaughtering a bunch of guardsmen at nachmund for disobeying orders is hilarious lol

[late osprey]

guilliman finally coming around to ol' Lorgar's Truthnukes

[tough haven]

Well the thing is I want to play it with my friends though

[late osprey]

"oh actually religions great for controlling a state"

[crystal forum]

find new friends

[plush mason]

in other words, bond with strangers via shared mental trauma

[arctic talon]

Anyways the Minotaurs finally aren’t deploying at full chapter strength everywhere now

[tough haven]

They only ever want to play marvel rivals or mc which is fine

[late osprey]

shit now they're gonna get pwn'd

[arctic talon]

Since 4 companies are at nachmund and 3 were at octarius

[crystal forum]

you're not even listening

[tough haven]

No I get what you’re saying

[arctic talon]

Presumably all the Minotaur companies

[tough haven]

I’m just venting lol

[arctic talon]

Are going to nachmund now

For uh

reasons

[tough haven]

If I really want to I’ll go on random lobbies

[arctic talon]

They got their ass beat at octarius

Lol

Nachmund went well

Sorta

Until imperial infighting began

[crystal forum]

play as engineer and keep the whole ship working because everybody is stupid

[arctic talon]

And then they killed a lot of people for disobeying Gullimans orders

[tough haven]

I really want them to like get stuck in a maze somewhere so I can go “haha, it’s the joke!”

[tough haven]

That’s largely why I wanted to play with friends cause I can at least semi trust them to be competent

Besides my security officer always trying to steal drugs

[crystal forum]

barotrauma is better with chaos

[late osprey]

new minotaurs lore: their ship interiors are all massive labyrinths

[crystal forum]

just dont care man

[arctic talon]

They literally have a maze on their main battle barge

[crystal forum]

you cant care when playing baro you'll go insane

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/красноносое-побоище-barartauma-баратравма-klown-honk-gif-14577261961163869792

[late osprey]

you're shitting me

[arctic talon]

That they stick a very angry dreadnought in

[late osprey]

i was making a joke

[arctic talon]

I’m not

[languid meadow]

Baro with neuro is an amazing time

[arctic talon]

They keep a very angry contemptor dread in it

Btw that dreadnought is so violent

[tough haven]

FUCK YEAH!

[late osprey]

holy shit

[arctic talon]

It got mistaken for a khornate dread

Because it was covered in blood

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/slPtgJDYXwA?si=Vgq9ZXMDRTq0e9RD

[arctic talon]

And meat

[late osprey]

whats next?

[arctic talon]

Some guardsmen shot it

[tough haven]

I usually hate Sm but this is my favorite faction now

[late osprey]

Space Sharks die if they stand still for too long?

[arctic talon]

And it killed like 40 people

No

They do have an aquarium though

Lol

[tough haven]

Oh wait @crystal forum can you do the campaign mode long term with randoms?

[languid meadow]

Baros soundtrack is so good

[crystal forum]

fun fact if you get infected with husk you can survive underwater without a suit

[arctic talon]

Big tank of fish and other sea creatures

[crystal forum]

but you cant talk

which is a win win for me

also you can bite anybody you dislike

[tough haven]

I didn’t think you kept control

[arctic talon]

But yeah the Minotaurs having a literal maze in their battle barge is like

So fucking weird lol

[late osprey]

thats so goofy lmao

[arctic talon]

You can if you do some stuff

[languid meadow]

symbiosis and the church of the husk is the way to go but idk what the clowns can give you

[crystal forum]

you need the husk gene

it makes it so you never fully turn

[arctic talon]

They don’t even do anything else with it other then keep that one dreadnought in it lol

[crystal forum]

clowns used to be so broken idk if they got nerfed

[arctic talon]

Like they don’t even throw neophytes in it

To like test them LOL

[late osprey]

my favorite part of baro was combining mechanic's Power Armor and soldier's Machine Gun

[arctic talon]

I’d find it less goofy if they did that

[crystal forum]

yes

[arctic talon]

I’m not even joking

[crystal forum]

that's how i found my group actually

[arctic talon]

Like “yeah avoid the angry ass dreadnought”

[tough haven]

Even if it’s not the same guys?

[arctic talon]

That’s your test

[crystal forum]

i joined a random guy doing campaign and now he has his own server and everuthing

[late osprey]

well there was that ONE story where the space marine captive and his son escaped with home-fashioned power wings

[crystal forum]

yup

[tough haven]

Why the fuck don’t they

[late osprey]

except his son drifted too close to the warp

[crystal forum]

just expect a lot of chaos

[tough haven]

Sent Perseus down there or something

[arctic talon]

Idk, the maze is just used to keep that dread for reasons

I’m not sure why they don’t like

[opaque coyote]

I think the minotaurs are my favorite

[arctic talon]

Turn him off lol

[opaque coyote]

well

one of many

[tough haven]

He might be useful

[opaque coyote]

primarily because

[arctic talon]

He is

[tough haven]

Also free home defense

[arctic talon]

But like just put him to sleep

[arctic talon]

He’s stuck in a maze

[opaque coyote]

they are HUGE fucking teamkilling assholes.

They're the type to camp your respawn point

[crystal forum]

they broke the on off switch

[tough haven]

Boarders when they accidentally breach into the maze

[late osprey]

there's probably lots of trapdoors on the spaceship that drop invaders into it

Dr. Evil style

[tough haven]

It snapped off

[opaque coyote]

They're the type to shout slurs if you give them a minor inconvenience

[crystal forum]

angry marines except not racist

[opaque coyote]

They're a toxic league player made into a SM

and I fucking love it

lmao

[tough haven]

Or the ritual of slumber takes so long he’ll just kill you before you finish it

[arctic talon]

Hekaton Aiakos

[crystal forum]

fucking contemptor

guy doesnt deserve it

[late osprey]

i do like the idea that moloch feeds people who fail or disappoint him to the Dreadnought Maze

from his evil throneroom of evil

"YOU HAVE FAILED ME FOR THE LAST TIME, TO THE DUNGEON WITH YOU."

[opaque coyote]

Man I can't believe that the guy named after a demon of child sacrifice is bad

[arctic talon]

His nicknames are

Guardian of the Daedelos Krata

And the Terror of Bifrost

The second nickname was given by loyalist survivors

[late osprey]

the space wolves do NOT like how he got that second one

[arctic talon]

Of his anger incident

“Aiakos gained notoriety beyond his Chapter when a detachment of Bifrost Huscarl infantry, under the brevet command of Brother-Sergeant Augustine of the Viper Legion Chapter, mistakenly fired on the battle-damaged and gore-drenched Minotaurs Dreadnought.

So provoked, Aiakos rampaged through the Imperial lines, killing thirty-seven Huscarls and Augustine himself in his fury, and ripped open a supporting Leman Russ Tank which had tried to stop him.”

[crystal forum]

bruh just guardsmen

literally bragging about kicking children

[languid meadow]

I wish nothing more than the minotaurs to explode and die

[late osprey]

who knew that space marines could still do friendly fire

[languid meadow]

who ass chapters make it their personality

[crystal forum]

this is why you deserve the true award

[arctic talon]

Okay so my bad on the just specific maze being what they stick him in

[late osprey]

friendly fire being the accidental kind

[arctic talon]

Apparently the Minotaurs entire flagship is described as maze like

[late osprey]

not being a teamkiller

[arctic talon]

So uh

Fucks sake

[late osprey]

https://tenor.com/bQJ3x.gif

[crystal forum]

the maze when vortex torpedo

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

the maze when uh

[arctic talon]

So the Minotaurs entire ship is a fucking maze

For reasons

Beyond my comprehension

[crystal forum]

they never fight in the void so i doubt they care

[arctic talon]

I don’t even know what server that emote is from is the worst part

💀

I’m killing myself in shame

[late osprey]

happens to the best of us

[arctic talon]

I’m in too many fucking servers

[late osprey]

see thats why you dont buy nitro

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Anyways maze

[crystal forum]

yeah even the furry one

[opaque coyote]

gotta annoy everyone

including themselves

[late osprey]

i think GW just has 0 self-control when it comes to references

[arctic talon]

Alan Bligh you hack/j

[late osprey]

it's like they brought over a bunch of writers from family guy

[opaque coyote]

tbf it's probably partially because well

anybody that like

tries to board it?

good luck finding your way through asshole

[late osprey]

MINOTAURS MUST HAVE MAZES AND MUST BE GREEK RIGHT?

[crystal forum]

they literally just had a chapter called the minotaurs and had to run with that information

[late osprey]

let's name the ship: The Crete! 😄

[arctic talon]

Tbf it’s only their main battle barge

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/fucking-guy-nandor-gif-69290806629318198

I hate them more and more

[late osprey]

im still crashing out that the maze thing is real

[arctic talon]

Lol

[languid meadow]

holy snore

[late osprey]

because i literally said that as a joke

[opaque coyote]

I mean if anything

I don't think their barge should've been the maze part

I mean duh

[crystal forum]

the only thing i like about minotaurs is their paint scheme

[late osprey]

its not just minotaurs, of course

its also our old friends, the Space Wolves

[opaque coyote]

but I think training for recruits would've been the best placement

I guess to see if you actually have a sense of direction

[scenic bolt]

when it takes you 12.3 hours to run a message to the bridge

[crystal forum]

even the comms are mazed

[late osprey]

Minotaur space marines are immune to the maze spell

[arctic talon]

Their battle barge is called Daedelos Krata

Which I’m not sure

Wait

[opaque coyote]

love it even more

that is funny as shit

[arctic talon]

Fucks sake

[opaque coyote]

wait

[arctic talon]

Daedelos

[opaque coyote]

do minotaurs have horns

like

[arctic talon]

No

[opaque coyote]

even fake ones

[late osprey]

surprisingly

[opaque coyote]

on their helmets

[arctic talon]

They don’t

They have Greek frescos

[late osprey]

at this rate im surprised there isnt something like "yeah they have special power armor so their greaves look like hooves"

[arctic talon]

And stuff

[opaque coyote]

what a missed opportunity

[arctic talon]

But not horns

[late osprey]

id have to be put into a psych ward

if they just had an actual minotaur-themed power armor

[opaque coyote]

if you're gonna hammer it in, might as well like

have the coolest part

yk?

like

at least the space wolves actually look kinda cool aesthetically

[arctic talon]

They have a dreadnought called Morbus

[opaque coyote]

and also distinct

[arctic talon]

[opaque coyote]

MORBIUS DREADNOUGHT

LET'S GOOO-

I'm beginning to love this chapter

more and more

in both an ironic and unironic sense

[late osprey]

i almost had a stroke when this was revealed

[scenic bolt]

the maze's gotta have a non-zero body count for neophytes

[late osprey]

when i really shouldnt have since i shouldve expected it

[opaque coyote]

honestly

honestly

that is actually pretty fucking cool

[late osprey]

PLEASE GW, IM BEGGING YOU

STOP WITH THE REFERENCES

IM ON MY HANDS AND KNEES

[opaque coyote]

I mean personally I would've made it so that the grills were the teeth

but honestly

I think that helmet unironically looks cool

I love how the ears are exhausts basically

[crystal forum]

your iron hands?

[scenic bolt]

good luck looking down though

[languid meadow]

The actual wolf head sculpt is cooler imo

the 40k version is hot ass

HH wins again in the drip department

[late osprey]

my iron hands and kenes that i use to pilot the battle barge (it's a literal flying giant iron hand)

[opaque coyote]

Tbf you'd probably have a hard time looking down with regular sm armor and helmet

like

[crystal forum]

did you see the art of the other chapter themed helmets where the crimson fists one is just a fist

[opaque coyote]

especially with the fact that their chestplate goes up to their neck sometimes

so

it would be hard anyways

might as well look cool

[late osprey]

i already suppressed the urge to make a joke earlier about the crimson fists

where all their bolter shells are fist-shaped

like green arrow's boxing glove arrows

[arctic talon]

There’s another wolf helmet

[languid meadow]

The legion praetor for the space wolves is prob my fav SW model I love it's helmet

[arctic talon]

They they could have picked

They picked like

The ugliest wolf shaped helmet

For the one in SM2 lol

[arctic talon]

My favorite is prolly the new 40K battleleader tbh

[opaque coyote]

Iron Hands who have Iron Hands who are lead by Iron Hand who has an Iron Hand

[arctic talon]

Very good wolfguard mini

[late osprey]

see, im definitely not biased or anything, but the BLOOD ANGELS are an example of it being tasteful

like yeah they're called angels with literal angel-styled marines

but like

[opaque coyote]

Think it's too much at once tbh

Like

[late osprey]

thats not ALL they are

[opaque coyote]

pick the angel

or the vampire

not both

[late osprey]

i dont like the red thirst so i just ignore that part

[opaque coyote]

Personally prefer the Vampire side more

We already got enough religious shit

[arctic talon]

https://preview.redd.it/wolf-helm-anyone-v0-yp5o37xwyayd1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9c02d585d33bfa0c7bad07cf0ad0f5e3b1a27d77

This is the least awful wolf helmet

Imo

[late osprey]

that one looks the most like just an actual wolf's head

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Which is why it’s the best one

[late osprey]

at least with that paint style

[arctic talon]

[opaque coyote]

...is it weird that of all of the wolf heads that you showed me

the SM2 one is my favorite

[crystal forum]

these guys arent beating the furry allegations

[languid meadow]

we have an ice dweller in chat

[arctic talon]

Tbf that’s the point

[late osprey]

i was thinking that too LOL

[arctic talon]

They’re a bunch of violent psychopaths

Hiding under an angelic form

[late osprey]

i used to think calling them furries was shallow and pedantic and insisted upon itself

[arctic talon]

Why am I being called an ice dweller