Why would they help a faction like the Imperium that would literally just want to see them all exterminated.
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
celest dome
Also sending Xenos forces to Terra would only be considered an attack force 
round tartan
So does modern day Britain, even now their laws are archived on vellum scrolls.
lofty mason
Are there any heretic/traitor-aligned world that has better quality of life for its citizens than IoM?
wintry scarab
If a marine loses power to his power armour, how much of a burden is that?
rocky gale
They'd be slower but they'd manage
Unarmoured space marine can lift like around 2-3 tons, their armour is around 200kg
The greater loss would be in strength reduction I guess, marine in power armour can lift around 5-6 tons
queen laurel
yeah they are definitely trained to handle armor power loss
raven stone
Are there any heretic/traitor-aligned world that has better quality of life for ...
Given how 99% of those worlds are in the warp, nope.
And any Chaos held planet in reality will - eventually - succumb to warp corruption. Only a matter of when.
queen laurel
Are there any heretic/traitor-aligned world that has better quality of life for ...
do you really think a planet held by chaos cult are any better than the Imperium?
raven stone
If you really want to dunk on Imperium governance by humans, you are better off looking at Tau colonies - but even then there us no guarantee it isn't an Ethereal sitting on top.
queen laurel
The guys that worship disease bloodshed ecstasy and magic?
raven stone
Everyone think Chaos are cool anti-authoritarian hippies until they start to mutate into living fractal beings
Or develop millions of diseases without being able to die
Or mindlessly slaughter each other due to a 'mysterious' sense of rage
Basically remember the White Scars philosophy:
"Imperium is flawed, Chaos is worse"
queen laurel
Everyone think Chaos are cool anti-authoritarian hippies until they start to mut...
even if you claim slannesh can give you a good time
eventually you it will devolve into ecstasy where you will never be satisfied
raven stone
Indeed
queen laurel
chaos is called chaos for a reason
for a society to function and work it needs order
and chaos does not have such a thing
raven stone
I don't think so
storm jungle
do stuff by themselves
They are basically automatons.
they need a sorceror or someone with influence over them to order them around.
rocky gale
Are there any heretic/traitor-aligned world that has better quality of life for ...
Average member of the Severan Dominate
golden imp
Are there any ethereals who aren’t asshats in the lore
Or is that just their thing lol
sacred bluff
they need a sorceror or someone with influence over them to order them around.
did all thousand sons turn into rubric marines?
nocturne crest
I think it's only the sorceress who didn't turn into rubric marines.
sacred bluff
rocky gale
It effected all the ones without psychic potential and only those that were present at the time of the ritual
sacred bluff
When it comes to space marines that turned to chaos, do they lose more autonomy than they would have had being loyalist
raven stone
Average member of the Severan Dominate
Severan Dominate is not Heretic/Traitor (which in this context is usually referring to Chaos), but yes, they are sane secessionist.
rocky gale
Yea not heretical, but still technically traitors
Traitors who believe themselves to be the true loyalists to the Emperor, rebelling against the corrupt Imperium
summer mural
so rubric marines are dead for all intents and purposes right
like they are just walking suits
the named marine is super dead inside it
or is it like the sorcerer can spend some magic to give it some personality
like undead kinda
and necromancers
hallow saddle
When it comes to space marines that turned to chaos, do they lose more autonomy ...
they're as much slaves to the chaos gods are the loyalists are to the imperium
so in some ways they have more autonomy and others they have just as little
tbh space marines basically do what they want on a chapter/warband level on both sides
plush mason
like undead kinda
yeah they are basically asleep kinda, just falling endlessly till a sorcerer wakes them up
rocky gale
We have seen that they can be restored to being people again
plush mason
i wonder if the rubrics can wake themselves if they get attacked
or would they just be helpless in that situation
rocky gale
Yvraine restores a bunch of Rubric to life in order to troll Ahriman in one of the books
queen laurel
Yvraine restores a bunch of Rubric to life in order to troll Ahriman in one of t...
if only ynnari were that consistently cool
hallow saddle
Yvraine restores a bunch of Rubric to life in order to troll Ahriman in one of t...
are they still loyal to chaos after bring turned?
rocky gale
They are confused, their last memories were the moments before being turned into Rubric, so they adopted defendive positions around their leaders while trying to figure out what was going on
summer mural
poor guys tbh
rocky gale
Ahriman doesn't really get a chance to react though, he's too stunned that his life work for the last couple thousands years was just accomplished on a whim that before he fully processes what happened Yvraine yeets the restored Rubric into the void.
summer mural
especially since thousand sons marines are kinda likeable
pre heresy
that one guy in rylanors last stand is likeable too
plush mason
any idea what the red stripe on the shoulder means? or is that fairly standard for an arbites and my blind ass never noticed till now
plush mason
ok so its a newish thing
and could just be a simple way to break up the almost completely mono-colored suits
raven stone
Probably squad designations
storm jungle
any idea what the red stripe on the shoulder means? or is that fairly standard f...
Just a bright highlight to make the armor less stark, same with the white stripe on the helmet.
everything on the KT models is new lookwise
rocky gale
Yea older Arbites just had like blocky space marine shoulders with symbols on them
plush mason
Just a bright highlight to make the armor less stark, same with the white stripe...
so exactly what i thought
storm jungle
so exactly what i thought
Yeah like Moth said the arbites looked way more different beforehand.
Judging from Rogue Trader, the Tithes episode and so on they seem to be adapting the Kill-Team for their "new" look instead.
queen laurel
Judging from Rogue Trader, the Tithes episode and so on they seem to be adapting...
to be fair it is a banger look
And it still gets the point across that these guys are supposed to be judge dredd
raven stone
And of course, making sure GW itself is not getting sued for copying Judge Dreds outright.
summer mural
BIG STABBA
raven stone
That reminds me
Things must be really messy at GW
No Saturday community article either
(So far)
rocky gale
Saturday articles don't usually go up until around 5pm BST
Which is dumb because they usually just recap what released for preorder that day, which go live at 10am BST so will already be sold out by the time the community post goes live
And also we don't have any preorders today, so who knows if we'll even get a post about it
raven stone
Unusually quiet for GW then
summer mural
how big is kragnos compared to a normal human
like I cant tell if a person can ride him or they only come up to his knee
rocky gale
summer mural
damn kragnos is basically shaggoth sized
well
if you take him off his rock pedestal
I guess that ork does come up to his knee yeah
queen laurel
like I cant tell if a person can ride him or they only come up to his knee
in lore he's like
mega-gargant size
rocky gale
Found one beside a Mega-gargant
summer mural
does he have like a narrative thing going on or does he just go around rampaging
queen laurel
does he have like a narrative thing going on or does he just go around rampaging
He does have books but his narrative of being the main center attention of era of the beast is over
he's just around Ghyran now
stomping about
summer mural
also he doesnt really have a preference for like
race right
in terms of hanging around
like I assume he doesnt like orks more than gargants
queen laurel
also he doesnt really have a preference for like
he hates everyone
he only tolerates the destruction races because they follow him and revere him
rocky gale
His race is wiped out I think
queen laurel
yes they are
summer mural
also is he an actual god like sigmar and nagash
queen laurel
dead
queen laurel
also is he an actual god like sigmar and nagash
demi god ish
Basically a mortal God
rocky gale
He led his people in a genocidal war against the Draconith and lost
summer mural
him and gorkamorka can probably have a great time together beating each other up
queen laurel
he can hold his own against morathi and Kroak
queen laurel
him and gorkamorka can probably have a great time together beating each other up
he just wants to destroy things really so
eh
rocky gale
He also can't really communicate with anyone
queen laurel
yeah and the only communicator he had got sick of him
summer mural
LOL
rocky gale
The only language he speaks is that of his exctinct people and he's not really interested in learning another
outer wave
Still should've been part of the Beastmen than with destruction
rocky gale
Would have required the introduction of non-chaos Beastmen
celest dome
Could simply write his back story to be more chaosy
summer mural
he can be the big bad for destruction yeah
celest dome
Or have BM worship him as an icon of Chaos even if he isn't
rocky gale
They should have made Beastmen into a Destruction faction
summer mural
although he does look suspiciously like a centigor
queen laurel
Could simply write his back story to be more chaosy
stop being salty beast man fan
rocky gale
Then you can differentiate between Old World Beastmen who are Chaos and AoS Beastmen who are Destruction
queen laurel
Then you can differentiate between Old World Beastmen who are Chaos and AoS Beas...
I'm surprised they weren't destruction to begin with
outer wave
He could be both: a god that's supposed to "unite" chaos and destruction, despite hating the company of both and refusing to speak their languages
queen laurel
like they literally just want to trample everything
celest dome
stop being salty beast man fan
I feel toward the BM the same thing that GW does
Nothing
rocky gale
Would have required new models, which takes time away from releasing their weekly space marine range refresh
outer wave
summer mural
goddamn
queen laurel
I feel toward the BM the same thing that GW does
then stop making him chaos please
celest dome
BM I think we're in the same place that Squat were
The design teams had no clear idea on what to do with them
outer wave
like they literally just want to trample everything
They're like fringe destruction mostly, as they believe their way is more pure than going with the chaos gods themselves, though you still see those that dedicate themselves to a god
queen laurel
BM I think we're in the same place that Squat were
The design teams had no clear...
you would think by age of sigmar
they would figure out what to do with them
outer wave
Yeah you'd think
queen laurel
in fantasy they were fodder
summer mural
id have liked age of sigmar to have a different everchosen instead of archaon
Im kinda sick of archaon
like itd be nice if chaos won fantasy but archaon didnt make it or wasnt the everchosen again
in aos
rocky gale
they would figure out what to do with them
Time will tell, it is possible they shelved the AoS range and moved it to Old World so that they could come out with their new Destruction redesign for AoS later on
queen laurel
Time will tell, it is possible they shelved the AoS range and moved it to Old Wo...
yeah like there is literally a realm of beasts
why is THE BEASTMEN
celest dome
like itd be nice if chaos won fantasy but archaon didnt make it or wasnt the eve...
New Everchosen, but Archaon return as some other post kind of like Be'lakor but instead of being jealous he dunk on everything
queen laurel
NOT NATIVE THERE
queen laurel
id have liked age of sigmar to have a different everchosen instead of archaon
To be fair which would you trust more, the guy that reliably did his job and ended the world and survived your assassination attempts or some new random that you have no idea how they will perform
rocky gale
Like I remember there was a thing in one of the earlier AoS Beastmen battletomes that talked about how there were Beastmen who didn't believe they were descended from Chaos and were actually the children of the Godbeasts of Ghur
So it's a possible avenue for them to go
queen laurel
Like I remember there was a thing in one of the earlier AoS Beastmen battletomes...
i'm just genuinely surprised that they are literally so hated that they have been reduced to utterly just completely fodder
like
They are beastmen there's a realm of beasts
Put them there
And like adding them as another extra faction for destruction isn't even that ridiculous
summer mural
New Everchosen, but Archaon return as some other post kind of like Be'lakor but ...
yeah
outer wave
Ngl I kinda vibe with the "black sheep" theme that the beastmen have, but them getting a proper realm would be nice
queen laurel
Ngl I kinda vibe with the "black sheep" theme that the beastmen have, but them g...
Yeah the realm of beasts
they are called
BEASTMEN
like if you plop them down on ghur i wouldn't be surprised and even just say OK that makes sense
outer wave
Plus they could go wild with their designs rather than sticking with what we know of beastmen
You know, goat faced satyr like creatures or centaurs or minotaurs
queen laurel
Plus they could go wild with their designs rather than sticking with what we kno...
yeah you can have like boar beeastmen, mammoth beastmen
outer wave
Giraffe beastman
queen laurel
Depending on the place
outer wave
Insect beastman
queen laurel
Insect beastman
If you're gonna go beast man stick to mammals will you
outer wave
Chimeric beastman
summer mural
insectmen
outer wave
If you're gonna go beast man stick to mammals will you
Ghur is basically just the wild, yeah? Why not mix in insect like features?
They're still beasts to the average person
queen laurel
Ghur is basically just the wild, yeah? Why not mix in insect like features?
because like The thing is, they're always one of those things of being implemented into them is that they're mammals
like every single one is a type of mammal
summer mural
because like The thing is, they're always one of those things of being implement...
Bulgur do you know a defining feature of mammals
queen laurel
centigor., minotaurs and gors
queen laurel
Bulgur do you know a defining feature of mammals
finish that and you support kanye west
plush mason
Bulgur do you know a defining feature of mammals
the single defining feature of mammals is mammalian glands
queen laurel
Ghur is basically just the wild, yeah? Why not mix in insect like features?
every beastman is capable of charging down the opponent basically
summer mural
apparently kanye is suing some doctor for getting him addicted to nitrous oxide, which he claims has caused him severe brain damage
outer wave
because like The thing is, they're always one of those things of being implement...
Yes, that is true, but why not expand to a more general animal chimera theme? Throwing in different types of animals like reptiles, elephants, hippos, whales, fish, whatever into the usual mix? That would still keep to the theme of Ghur while not just making the beastmen furries
queen laurel
Yes, that is true, but why not expand to a more general animal chimera theme? Th...
can work but with the already established characteristics you're kind of already stuck really
outer wave
something like a rhino and boar would make sense
A large Rhino beetle headed lad with a tough exoskeleton
summer mural
jabberslythe does exist, and its got that chimera theme going on kinda
outer wave
Mhm!
queen laurel
A large Rhino beetle headed lad with a tough exoskeleton
OK what is the one a trait a beast man has
that is common to the mankind
tell me
outer wave
OK what is the one a trait a beast man has
Bipedal
plush mason
OK what is the one a trait a beast man has
afaik all beastmen are part herd animal
queen laurel
I'll give you another hint related to agriculture
summer mural
free wifi?
outer wave
Nah they hate wifi
plush mason
goats horses and bulls
outer wave
Mmmm I see
queen laurel
goats horses and bulls
bingo
summer mural
fish are related to agriculture though
queen laurel
they are basically our domesticated animals but remove the domesticated part and turn them into frothing monsters
rocky gale
and yet no dog beastmen
outer wave
Literal right hand man guard dog beastmen would be funny
summer mural
i guess guess khornegors with a hound snout are dog beastmen
plush mason
and yet no dog beastmen
because werewolves exist in other factions i guess
so thats the "dogmen" covered
queen laurel
they are basically the wild animals we couldn't tame and therefore became hateful civilization
queen laurel
jabberslythe does exist, and its got that chimera theme going on kinda
that's just a mutated chaos monster
rocky gale
Dog and cat beastmen would hit the streets like crack
summer mural
lmao
plush mason
Dog and cat beastmen would hit the streets like crack
unironically true
queen laurel
Dog and cat beastmen would hit the streets like crack
the art is gonna be insane
outer wave
Dog and cat beastmen would hit the streets like crack
All the people that yell pupper when seeing a dog would go ballistic
summer mural
personally, the aspect of the beastmen I like are the beastmen that have a primordial eldritch horror theme, like moonclaw, morghur, slugtongue etc
plush mason
ngl its funny how 2 of those names are just generic as hell tribal animal people names
outer wave
Yeah I really like their theme of the uncivilized part of nature and the black sheep theme they got going in and out of lore
summer mural
like you see the gors being savage brutes basically and beastlords being better gors, and then theres moonclaw, who fell from morrslieb
outer wave
they are basically our domesticated animals but remove the domesticated part and...
What about elephants or camels, or even falcons? The former two have been used for transport while falconeering is still a thing
queen laurel
What about elephants or camels, or even falcons? The former two have been used f...
another one to note is that when they bring in monsters that originate from them they usually also appear like giant herd animals example a
celest dome
Moonclaw should have been the BM LL against the Skink Commando
queen laurel
elephants and camels can work
outer wave
Taurox is cool yeh
summer mural
id like moonclaw as a legendary hero more than a lord
celest dome
Less so than the mad scion of Moorslieb, who ride on a twin headed wolf
celest dome
Did Taurox though ?
celest dome
I think people kitbashed him from Doombulls
summer mural
I guess models arent the best metrics for total war anyway, helman ghorst exists
outer wave
another one to note is that when they bring in monsters that originate from them...
Shower thought: if we were to move beastmen to Ghur, how could we explain the more mutated creatures like this or the jabberslythe?
queen laurel
Shower thought: if we were to move beastmen to Ghur, how could we explain the mo...
ghorgons easy
plush mason
I guess models arent the best metrics for total war anyway, helman ghorst exists
hell TWWH3 showed us Cathay's models well before we got the old world line
queen laurel
it's just a minotaur that ate other minotaurs
celest dome
Cygor are those that ate magician iirc
queen laurel
jabberslythe is harder but could be explained as well
celest dome
like do they have new models
Think so
summer mural
i hope they do moonclaw model
outer wave
jabberslythe is harder but could be explained as well
So we put in the dog-eat-dog theme into it rather than just making it chaos magics do the work, I see
outer wave
its never happening
LET ME COPE!!!
storm jungle
LET ME COPE!!!
NEVER
celest dome
The main issue is that there are all the Monogod Beastmen that would be without any place
plush mason
are beastmen even in old world yet
according to ageofminiatures which i have no idea how accurate this site is mind you they are one of the 9 official old factions so far yes
celest dome
Keep BM chaos, introduce new Fimir(arch) model line instead
outer wave
Fimir would be cool
celest dome
Neither are Dark Elf iirc
summer mural
honestly, I never get why fimir are brought up so often, I get they are sidelined, but I dont get what people like about them either
plush mason
this is an outrage
celest dome
honestly, I never get why fimir are brought up so often, I get they are sideline...
Turtles 🐢
celest dome
outer wave
honestly, I never get why fimir are brought up so often, I get they are sideline...
I think they're interesting in the sense that they were basically a favored race once before being tossed aside for humanity.
Which implies it'll happen to humanity as well as soon as the chaos gods find a new race to toy with
celest dome
Their model range doesn't look like any other
And show potential
Same for their lore
summer mural
they do have a more distinct look i guess
rose thorn
https://ageofminiatures.com/warhammer-old-world-factions/
The old world fans and AI, a duo older than time
rose thorn
https://ageofminiatures.com/warhammer-old-world-factions/
Actually I’m pissed why the fuck are they using AI
outer wave
Yeah it's dogshit
celest dome
Cause they're a shitty site
queen laurel
That orc is nothing like anything in Warhammer what the fuck
nah that's dnd
queen laurel
Cause they're a shitty site
hey cacti
what edition was the latest of warhammer fantasy
Before it went kaput
rocky gale
The skeleton would be right at home on a jpeg shirt
outer wave
The skeleton would be right at home on a jpeg shirt
What would the caption be on that shirt?
versed ledge
Silly question, how is it that 50% of catachans don't survive past childhood...yet the people of catachans always seem to have the adequate amount of fighters to provide?
summer mural
because gw cant do numbers
they will create as many catachans as needed for the narrative
celest dome
what edition was the latest of warhammer fantasy
Officially 8, but some people consider ET to be 9th
rocky gale
Silly question, how is it that 50% of catachans don't survive past childhood...y...
The same way Medieval England had an infant mortality rate of around 50%, yet was still able to fight wars
queen laurel
Officially 8, but some people consider ET to be 9th
ok yeah thanks
i'm sticking with eight on this one
rocky gale
What would the caption be on that shirt?
"It's sink or swim in this world.... and brother I'm not paying taxes"
misty vector
Would be something like “Bad news for cheeseburgers: I woke up.”
tough haven
Silly question, how is it that 50% of catachans don't survive past childhood...y...
Ridiculous amounts of sex
Around the clock
And honestly I can’t blame them, just look at catachan
versed ledge
The same way Medieval England had an infant mortality rate of around 50%, yet wa...
Oh pray tell what was that method?
versed ledge
Around the clock
In an active war zone of a world that sees humanity as desserts
celest dome
Having 8+ children, when ever one died you birthed a new one
celest dome
In an active war zone of a world that sees humanity as desserts
Catachan isn't an active war zone though
queen laurel
yeah the planet is just
really ******* dangerous
But Catachan have been doing this for so long they practically know the planet like the back of their hand
rocky gale
Oh pray tell what was that method?
versed ledge
tough haven
In an active war zone of a world that sees humanity as desserts
Yeah I mean, you gotta replace the losses, and if you’re probably gonna die tomorrow, might as well right? (I’m joking)
tough haven
dying of boredom
Idk let’s engage in a conversation then
summer mural
Idk let’s engage in a conversation then
i cant generate thoughts
Im just gonna order a bucket of ice cream
that should cure the fever
raven stone
What flavour?
summer mural
Death by chocolate or something
raven stone
Not a bad choice
Might be more tempted by strawberry myself
Unrelated joke...
Fandom: GW can we have more Horus Heresy era Legiones content?
GW: you have Legiones at home.
Legiones at home:
https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2025/05/warhammer-40k-space-marine-2-players-took-out-more-than-800k-trygons-in-ten-days.html
(The intended joke being there are enough gamers to make an actual Legion)
summer mural
trygons arent in the campaign are they
raven stone
I don't think so
raven stone
Yea, Hive tyrant is (surprisingly) a campaign related co-op side mission
tough haven
i cant generate thoughts
Space marines it is then! Perfect for no thoughts
summer mural
lmao
i like how in sm2 it isnt some independant far off story in the 40k verse, titus's stories feel right in the middle of important events
with the bigwigs
raven stone
I mean, it is a more positive/good reason why GW has a strong hand behind canon stories of any games
To make sure they can make minis/reference in lore at some point
summer mural
like I really liked how the game actually made this out to be the 2nd company of the ultramarines
they captured it decently well
raven stone
(The shortcoming, of course, is that the Canon portrayal control is one of the key reasons why GW cracks down on fan creations...)
summer mural
and titus is like right there in the hierarchy, like yeah he was a full fledged captain in the first one, but you didnt really feel like you were coordinating with a whole company
raven stone
and titus is like right there in the hierarchy, like yeah he was a full fledged ...
This does feel like the wtiting team improving a bit more
summer mural
he was mostly off doing his solo adventure ( like a true sm captain) and occasionally giving orders over vox
now you properly report to your captain every mission, there are multiple pre battle speeches, including from calgar and acheran
raven stone
I get what you mean. And in all honesty they gave Titus more nuance than I would have expected, which is nice.
summer mural
its just more immersive? I guess thats what Im saying
green loom
i like how in sm2 it isnt some independant far off story in the 40k verse, titus...
It still feels like that to me ngl
green loom
The Imperium functionally isn't there beyond military
raven stone
You at least see him low key commanding something
raven stone
The Imperium functionally isn't there beyond military
Part and partial of a war game I suppose 😅
summer mural
well he behaves like an officer, even if he doesnt actually command troops much
in 1 you could have told me he was a sergeant and I wouldnt have noticed
summer mural
The Imperium functionally isn't there beyond military
well, admech is also decently around
and also royally screwed up
raven stone
You do also get an astropath
summer mural
you see a bunch around, but yes, 2 or 3 named ones
green loom
But like
That's not the Imperium
You go through a hive city and there's only troops
raven stone
Yea you need something like Dark Heresy or even Rogue Trader
summer mural
well its also decently well into an invasion, you see entire rooms filled with guts and gore, but I see what you mean about no actual people who live there running around
raven stone
To see the non-war side of things
green loom
well its also decently well into an invasion, you see entire rooms filled with g...
Yeah but no one from the administratum, or ecclesiarchy, or any of the other myriad imperial groups is anywhere
Because the game is exclusively product placement
tough haven
You go through a hive city and there's only troops
Do you really think people are gonna stick around when nids are coming
green loom
Do you think they have a choice lol
raven stone
yes it is ultrasmurf 101
Well, Ultrasmurf and Cadia
summer mural
I also did appreciate the necron tomb world setting
tough haven
Do you think they have a choice lol
(Shush I’m trying to be a apologist here)
green loom
The Imperium sure as shit won't care enough to evac them
tough haven
The Imperium sure as shit won't care enough to evac them
Major misplay, just handing them free biomass
raven stone
The Imperium sure as shit won't care enough to evac them
TBF if not an off planet evacuation, they are probably cowering in Underground bunkers
rocky gale
The absolute gall to say Chaos is eating well
green loom
Major misplay, just handing them free biomass
Because the Imperium is so legendarily competent
raven stone
The absolute gall to say Chaos is eating well
Absolute Delulu
Even I can see that.
(I like Chaos as ultra irredeemable evil villains they are)
queen laurel
The absolute gall to say Chaos is eating well
Bro only emperor's children really got the good stuff
Khorne, the big bird fell and nurgle didn't really didn't really get anything special
And then on the loyal side you got space wolves literally eating up all of the competition with the things they're getting
raven stone
@summer mural actually you know what I think is genuinely missing in SM2 even though it won't add much/not as impressive as "bigger Tyranids"?
...
...GS Cult enemies.
queen laurel
From the new arrivals to the literal
raven stone
I want to see an enemy crazy enough to ram mining trucks into SM players.
raven stone
From the new arrivals to the literal
And just wait until GW goes "on BTW Russ is coming back too!"
queen laurel
And just wait until GW goes "on BTW Russ is coming back too!"
I mean he is
queen laurel
Yeah like if you're a space wolf fan you're basically drowning in attention as of right now
Like new infantry new terminators
A new character molds
What else could you ask for
raven stone
And a 99% likelihood of a 40k Primarch as well
queen laurel
Yep
summer mural
<@259127751556988928> actually you know what I think is genuinely missing in SM2...
thats true
i agree
i do feel like the thousand showing up kinda overran the tyranid aspect of the game
and sm1 and 2 are at their best when your fighting hordes
summer mural
well they are doing a sm3 too
tough haven
and sm1 and 2 are at their best when your fighting hordes
Just like sm1 chaos shows up because we have to have them here, and it steals from the better part of the game
summer mural
ye
sm1 was a lot more egregious
at least in 2 they handled fighting thousand sons better than they did fighting those random marines in 1
I wonder what they are gonna do for sm3 though, I really doubt they will totally repeat factions, though gsc is very possible
raven stone
I have a feeling GW is low key trying to pivot a lot of the gaming to be more "anti-Chaos"
Which...maybe to avoid accusations of them promoting Xenocide/genocide against aliens IDK, but
You can't deny it is a very strong trend
summer mural
well they can do nurgle, videogames love nurgle
summer mural
bloodletters were also very prominent in 1
summer mural
tbh, I wouldnt them doing orks again, but much better, next gen aaa orks
with more units and toys
summer mural
is there a canon image of sigmar in aos
celest dome
Quite a few
summer mural
summer mural
but I dunno which is canon
is that actually him
because if it is, he should really call sigvald and give him his armor back
languid meadow
Throwing hammers like that is so cool
queen laurel
but I dunno which is canon
Is always been portrayed like that
Thick beard a powerful frame and has a cool hammer
And so golden that if you sell a picture of him you could afford a coutry
storm jungle
because if it is, he should really call sigvald and give him his armor back
Sigvald didnt invent golden armor
💀
queen laurel
Sigvald didnt invent golden armor
Average drifty take am i right
rose thorn
Also he did bring sigvald back as a stormcast, I think he personally worked on the armor
outer wave
Why did he bring Sigvald back? Wasnt always chaos affiliated?
queen laurel
Also he did bring sigvald back as a stormcast, I think he personally worked on t...
What
outer wave
AH OKAY
rose thorn
GOLD GOLD GOLD MAN
queen laurel
Why did he bring Sigvald back? Wasnt always chaos affiliated?
You can turn a chaos warrior into a storm cast if they have like some semblance of
Their old good self
outer wave
Gold Man or Gold Man
rose thorn
Gold Man or *Gold* Man
I LOVE,,,, GOLDDDD
outer wave
You can turn a chaos warrior into a storm cast if they have like some semblance ...
Yeah but what about the reverse? Obviously it didnt happen and Sigvald isnt a good person even as a kid
outer wave
I LOVE,,,, GOLDDDD
queen laurel
Yeah but what about the reverse? Obviously it didnt happen and Sigvald isnt a go...
Yeah i'm just saying
rose thorn
Yeah but what about the reverse? Obviously it didnt happen and Sigvald isnt a go...
Sigvald is liek, the only sane leader left of Slaanesh
rose thorn
rose thorn
https://tenor.com/view/goldmember-austin-power-love-gold-gif-7399681
I can’t remember hsi fucking name
outer wave
Sigvald is liek, the only sane leader left of Slaanesh
Sane isnt the term Id use to describe Sigvald
outer wave
I can’t remember hsi fucking name
Golden Finger IIRC
rose thorn
Golden Finger IIRC
The old world guy I mean
outer wave
Sigvald the Magnificent?
storm jungle
I can’t remember hsi fucking name
to be fair
Sigvald is like
THE MOST generic nordic name
ever
its like Sven or Bjorn
lmao
languid meadow
Yeah unlike peak names like balgruuf
queen laurel
its like Sven or Bjorn
Ah yes my favorite warhammer characters
Bjorn the fell handed
And sigvald the twinknificent
languid meadow
Gelt
outer wave
Balzazhar
queen laurel
That's Balthazar gelt you goblin
outer wave
However you spell that
languid meadow
You fucking type your confusion was giving me second hand dementia
opaque coyote
So does modern day Britain, even now their laws are archived on vellum scrolls.
Interesting
rose thorn
I am 90% sure gelt worked in the stormcasts
rose thorn
to be fair
I got sigvald confused with sigmar’s hammer and then with gelt
outer wave
Yeah I think he's one of the few stormcasts that has some semblance of an idea of what his past life was like
languid meadow
He better since his ass carried order before being hit with the plot
queen laurel
I got sigvald confused with sigmar’s hammer and then with gelt
This is the fella you're talking about
queen laurel
The space wolf rot is getting into your brain huh
rose thorn
The space wolf rot is getting into your brain huh
Age of sigmar hasn’t been mentioned 1 on warhammer community this week I’m crashing out
queen laurel
Age of sigmar hasn’t been mentioned 1 on warhammer community this week I’m crash...
Yeah i can see
Don't worry i'm sure in the coming weeks you will get something i guess
Hopefully not more space wolves because that would be very funny
rose thorn
We’re still waiting on sands and bone
That’s literally what’s supposed to release next
queen laurel
That’s literally what’s supposed to release next
Yeah i don't mind seeing some new stuff
queen laurel
If it’s anvils
Oh yeah this guys are the
Revived heroes yes
Hmm
If felix was anywhere around age of sigmar he would probably be in that group
round tartan
Is always been portrayed like that
Not always, some of the older art portrayed him as looking like Conan the Barbarian.
queen laurel
Not always, some of the older art portrayed him as looking like Conan the Barbar...
Yeah but like modern day he is consistently portrayed as
The golden armored barbarian
And i mean it's old warhammer art it's cool mind you but it's no longer really the basis of his looks
celest dome
Since 6th I think he has been consistently portrayed with armour
outer wave
I kinda prefer him in his Conan the Barbarian phase
rose thorn
Death :3?
outer wave
Death :3?
Nah its my fat ogre ass trying to sneak into the kitchen to finish the rest of the cookies
rose thorn
I wonder how big of a threat ogors in Ghyran would be
Like if a full frontal against Ghyran following kragnos
dusky scroll
How long can Space Marines operate in combat condition without rest/sleep?
green loom
Inconsistent, generally considered "very long"
vagrant fox
Didn't Pedro what'shisname crimsonfist go 300 something days
rose thorn
its fucking crazyyy
crystal forum
Bro's nickname is "Lord Hellblade"
bold for somebody named pedro
in 40k
crimson fists, i wonder how their fists got so crimson
maybe they fist too much
storm jungle
STOP IT
nocturne crest
I wonder if GW could make a flying knight work.
Actually, if it flies, does it still count as a knight?
arctic talon
If it’s got a throne mechanicum
soft thunder
so GW is probably bringing back all the primarchs. Wonder if they are ballsy enough to kill any after bringing them back
doubtful but itd be fun
bring dorn back and kill him to spite valrak
nocturne crest
some pegasus ahh shit
Tbh, I was thinking more of a knight strapped to a zeppelin balloon.
storm jungle
bring dorn back and kill him to spite valrak
I wish.
soft thunder
Like a knight version of this:
fly me lower serf so that i might skewer the foe upon my lance
nocturne crest
fly me lower serf so that i might skewer the foe upon my lance
Maybe it could be a trident.
crystal forum
peg a sus
nocturne crest
Sounds Slaanesh-y
astral burrow
I was gonna say Pegasus Knights are already a thing..
Based Maddie pfp
I wanna get into the rabbit hole, and recommendations or guides to start with?
storm jungle
I wanna get into the rabbit hole, and recommendations or guides to start with?
Are you like brand new-new.
languid meadow
Once again I pop up to spread propaganda
astral burrow
Nah I know like surface level stuff
Cadia blew up, warp is bad, space marines are big, emperor protects, machines have spirits
storm jungle
In that case id recommend this from Arbitrator Ian (and prob subbing too hes a great channel)
11m, pretty concise
languid meadow
Necron novels..... My beloved
storm jungle
languid meadow
After watching that video I highly recommend looking into each faction as it would be easier to find smaller books from there imo
astral burrow
It was love at first sight 
astral burrow
After watching that video I highly recommend looking into each faction as it wou...
I like adeptus mechanicus right now
Their vibe is immaculate
And astartes I suppose
Space wolves specifically
Well time to sleep for now
Which channel does rogue trader talk fit into?
languid meadow
People talk about it in here a lot
arctic talon
I like adeptus mechanicus right now
Read forge of mars trilogy, dominion genesis or the 8e admech codex
One of those 3
Also the mechanicus video game is excellent
astral burrow
Read forge of mars trilogy, dominion genesis or the 8e admech codex
That's a lot of books
astral burrow
Also the mechanicus video game is excellent
I am not a big fan of strategy games so I will pass on that one
languid meadow
For SWs idk I know Prospero burns is pretty good for them but it's linked to the Horus heresy and that's a whole thing
arctic talon
That's a lot of books
Well you don’t have to read all of them
For SW Lukas the trickster book
astral burrow
Rogue trader has an uuuh
languid meadow
Oh yeah Ragnar
arctic talon
Yeah pasqual
arctic talon
Are the like foundational lore for every faction
But you also can get this info from arbitrator Ian
Lol
astral burrow
Codex and core rulebooks for 40K
Are those like fun to read
Isn't it just game rules
arctic talon
They’re fun imo
storm jungle
half of the book is lore
astral burrow
Huh
storm jungle
like uh
astral burrow
I been ignoring them
arctic talon
But it’s game rules, lore, art
astral burrow
Cuz I am not planning to play
arctic talon
Get the 8e codexes
storm jungle
I been ignoring them
Bad idea
arctic talon
Those are the best for lore
storm jungle
Didn't know they had lore
Fake fan.
astral burrow
I will check them out too
storm jungle
Oust this person to the principal's office
storm jungle
I just got here
astral burrow
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
I just got here!
languid meadow
Beaming the will and desire into everyone I meet to read the infinite and the divine
arctic talon
Actual blunt force trauma weapon
arctic talon
It’s an ogryn hugging blahj
astral burrow
Sadly I can't read any of them until my upcoming exam but I will binge em in summer
Oh that's a blahaj
storm jungle
Too relatable.
arctic talon
I have my final exams next week
astral burrow
Rogue trader and dark tide and expedition 33 and metro exodus and monster hunter world are already taking up enough time
arctic talon
astral burrow
I can't play them all AND study and it pisses me off
languid meadow
astral burrow
arctic talon
storm jungle
Too real 💀
vagrant fox
speaking of rogue trader when's dlc
astral burrow
I can't wait to finish the main story so I can buy the dlc
Does the dlc come with more cassia content?
storm jungle
Nope, all her content is in the main game
the DLCs focus on new companions
one is Kibellah the deathcultist (and genestealers)
the upcoming one is Arbites (space cops) with some other big plot, not sure what it was
astral burrow
Nope, all her content is in the main game
Then why even bother...
What is the point
vagrant fox
get a new wife, like kibellah
storm jungle
LMAO
astral burrow
astral burrow
you CAN keep her
But does she react to anything new?
And get any new lines
Or does she just... exist
astral burrow
get a new wife, like kibellah
The woman that comes with the dlc?
Nah her face makes me gag
I shall enjoy her love to the fullest in the base game
vagrant fox
😔
astral burrow
Is there a way to change my characters haircut?
storm jungle
Or does she just... exist
They do make comments on DLC areas and moments and stuff.
Yeah you ask the factotum I THINK
its been awhile
astral burrow
Good
storm jungle
the cunt behind you way in the back of the bridge
astral burrow
If the gigantic shit didn't have a barber I would crash out
I am the rogue trader I need my shit straight
Can I change my face though?
astral burrow
Thank god
Cuz I can't be romancing lady cassia looking like a homeless psyker
My guys always end up looking homeless
astral burrow
My guys always end up looking homeless
If he pulled shadowheart my psyker can pull cassia
astral burrow
So... not even a haircut?
You are telling me Theodora kept that hair straight by pure magic or smth? Are there hair spirits they pray to?
storm jungle
this post is like a year old, im not really sure honestly, i havent played the game since i finished it on its release month
vagrant fox
If he pulled shadowheart my psyker can pull cassia
shart is a bit of a mess tbf
astral burrow
shart is a bit of a mess tbf
So am I we go well together
She is the most stable in the gang
And has high standards
Clearly not high enough that guy looks straight out of disco elysium
arctic talon
shart is a bit of a mess tbf
Worst sharran alive
astral burrow
The only dark justiciar alive
astral burrow
Didnt the rest ||die in that one temple||
By the giant devil thingy, as his contract
astral burrow
Damn
arctic talon
She has worshipers all over faerun
astral burrow
Sure but dark justiciar is a very specific and hard to earn title
astral burrow
Isn't that temple the only way
astral burrow
To get the title from shar personally
arctic talon
You’re thinking too small
astral burrow
Shart herself said those people just call themselves that and have no basis for it, and she will be a real dark justiciar by doing the real trial
arctic talon
Baldurs gate 3 literally happens in a tiny part of faerun and lore wise isn’t even the worst thing that’s happened that week 💀
astral burrow
Is that just shart being old headed
arctic talon
Shart herself said those people just call themselves that and have no basis for ...
There’s other trials
And that’s shart being narrow minded
She’s likely never heard of any other sharran groups
astral burrow
Classic shart
arctic talon
Aside from the ones who built the temple and her cult in baldurs gate
astral burrow
Do u guys also think a characters portrait looks great then you pay close attention to the in game model and they look disgusting lmao
arctic talon
arctic talon
Do u guys also think a characters portrait looks great then you pay close attent...
The game models in Owlcat games have never looked super great lol
But the portraits are always pretty
astral burrow
My own guy looks pretty cool
Had to pick the portrait then base the character on it lol
arctic talon
The image I posted is the entire area baldurs gate 3 takes place in
astral burrow
Picked one with a face that's as obscured as possible so I could make it whatever
arctic talon
Lol smart
astral burrow
That one psyker with the purple robe
It is the exact robe as the in game psyker robe
That guy had white hair too but so much glow you can barely see his face
If only I could find those eye accessories too
arctic talon
He’s aura(veil) farming
astral burrow
If I wear a face accessory my hood will vanish guh
arctic talon
Oof
astral burrow
At least that's what I assume
Hope I can find a hooded mask or smth
Gotta look dripped out for lady cassia
I gotta change this face or at least this facial hair
arctic talon
But the worst thing that’s happened that month/week for Faerun is prolly an entire city being dragged into hell and then spit back out
Assuming you as durge don’t do the funny Bhaal thing and kill everything
arctic talon
Yes
astral burrow
Based
arctic talon
Also I find it ironic that BG3 never specifies the difference between Demons and Devils
When Karlach’s whole backstory connects to the blood war lol
astral burrow
I never really paid attention too it
Was busy looking for clothes and rizzing up shart
astral burrow
The contract guy?
astral burrow
Quasit?
arctic talon
If Raphael was a demon he’d just stab you and do horrible things to your corpse
astral burrow
Oh he is ugly
astral burrow
Have you found Shovel
Think I killed her by accident
arctic talon
Yeah they’re the only demon in the game
The rest are all devils or half devils
Devils are “nice” and won’t horribly brutally mangle your corpse for no reason
They like deals and order
They’re still extremely evil but they are civil
Demons are literally just a bunch of blood thirsty psychopathic anarchists
Who do whatever they want
astral burrow
Devils sound chill
arctic talon
Also demons literally cannot die
You cannot kill a demon like you can kill a devil in hell
Demons just reform after a while
arctic talon
Devils sound chill
Tbf they’re still after your soul and have fun torturing people, they’re just lawful about it lol
Rules, laws, contracts, bureaucracy
vagrant fox
As lawyers do
sacred ginkgo
Lawful Evil Vs Chaotic Evil
versed ledge
Random thought, I just realized Brazil is like an imperial hive city
dusky scroll
Inconsistent, generally considered "very long"
So, saying "a few weeks" would be a good ballpark estimation?
vagrant fox
Lexi says two weeks without sleep but there's examples of longer so a few weeks sounds reasonable
plush mason
The game models in Owlcat games have never looked super great lol
for a unity game its impressive how good they look
queen laurel
https://preview.redd.it/after-some-research-the-game-takes-place-here-v0-7goh6eu...
Wow we really explored only that much huh
plush mason
hell i didnt even know it was possible for unity to render the kinds of in game cutscenes they have in rogue trader
plush mason
If I wear a face accessory my hood will vanish guh
you can turn that off in the inventory
tough haven
What would be a good reason for a vostroyan firstborn officer to be in a hive city in the imperium nihilus? Without a regiment of firstborn btw
plush mason
sole survivor of a transport ship that got thrown off course in the warp
tough haven
sole survivor of a transport ship that got thrown off course in the warp
Thats a good idea
nocturne crest
Odd thought, but should imperial machine tools be used as weapons by the rejects.
Such as the rocksaw.
opaque coyote
This is gonna sound concerning but fuck it.
I know the reason why 40k doesn't have it.
But are there any like planets that are racist
Like not just racist towards Xenos and mutants. Like actually racist
I think the Salamanders home planet is one?
tough haven
Like not just racist towards Xenos and mutants. Like actually racist
100%
Its stated in the warhammer crime series that on Alecto homosexuality is allowed, but on many other planets it would be a death sentence
opaque coyote
It sounds like something out of a black Templar's campaign. But for some reason, I just find it funny to imagine like
A guardsman from planet X is like
"Ew why the fuck is there a black person there?"
tough haven
so I guarantee theres racist planets
opaque coyote
"Dude he's cool. He's from Catachan."
"Well I don't like how he lo-"
Catachan man appears behind him with him cracking his knuckles
"Oh n-"
THE EMPEROR'S PEACE
opaque coyote
so I guarantee theres racist planets
Yeah I can imagine why the guard would canonically have a ton of infighting
Cause a lot of planets have different cultures
Like a Krieger would fucking hate working with somebody from Jopall
And Vice versa
vagrant fox
There's the thing with Igneans on Nocturne, yea
That one story where a bunch of voidborn are killed for being too exotic for local tastes
Something about an Ultramarine looking down on another Ultramarine for being from a shitty planet I forgor
median star
is las ever used for combiweapons
opaque coyote
Something about an Ultramarine looking down on another Ultramarine for being fro...
I can imagine some rich guardsman regiment like the Scintillan Fusiliers also looking down at some other regiments
young pecan
Got gastroent. because I ate a stuffed bell pepper on my lunch break from the organization's cafeteria
Nurgle's blessings strike true indeed
arctic talon
This is gonna sound concerning but fuck it.
I know the reason why 40k doesn't h...
Yes
crystal forum
does space marine meat taste good
young pecan
I'm not sure if I would say marine meat would taste overprocessed or if it would taste like quality meat
I have a feeling it would taste processed
arctic talon
does space marine meat taste good
Presumably no
Marines smell awful due to all the chemicals, augmentations and stuff
crystal forum
but i love meat
astral burrow
you can turn that off in the inventory
No I wanna have a mask or something but keep the hood
hallow basin
This is gonna sound concerning but fuck it.
I know the reason why 40k doesn't h...
Not an impossibility, however, one of the Imperial Cult's tenets states that "Every human being has a place within the Emperor's divine order", so I doubt actual racism is enforced by authority
storm jungle
This is gonna sound concerning but fuck it.
I know the reason why 40k doesn't h...
Entirely possible but not explored because its too close to real life.
You cannot beat bigotry out of humans or for them to find reasons to hate their fellow kinsmen.
celest dome
Hasn't there been the case before ? Iirc on Fenrir with the black tribes or something
storm jungle
That was more the fandom being racist lol
lofty mason
In They Shall Know No Fear from Secret Level, how did that heretic psyker priest killed 2 Astartes without even harming them?
hallow basin
Fenrir tribes fuck each other up for a plethora of reasons anyway
storm jungle
Fenrisians are tribal in a community sense but they wouldnt be smart enough to hate someone for prob having darker skin or whatever, again its just not explored because its a touchy subject.
storm jungle
In **They Shall Know No Fear** from Secret Level, how did that heretic psyker pr...
Magic.
Literally all it is.
shes also like, not a psyker
shes a full on sorceress-daemon
astral burrow
That was more the fandom being racist lol
Yikes
storm jungle
Yikes
Theres worse stuff lol
they get mad the moment they see a black character on a book cover.
or a woman in a authority role
its endless
astral burrow
I like women in authority role
rocky gale
In **They Shall Know No Fear** from Secret Level, how did that heretic psyker pr...
With Rizz
astral burrow
Are there any Warhammer short films or whatever I can watch?
And movies or shows or animations
storm jungle
Yeah quite a few but its all on Warhammer+
celest dome
I like women in authority role
storm jungle
but you gotta pay for it
astral burrow
but you gotta pay for it
Do I tho
celest dome
Or ☠️
astral burrow
astral burrow
https://tenor.com/view/spike-speigle-spike-cowboy-bebop-i-love-the-kind-of-woman...
Cassiaaaa
storm jungle
astral burrow
Where is Warhammer+?
astral burrow
Oh it is it's own website
storm jungle
yeah GW didnt wanna put their stuff up for free lol
celest dome
Warhammer +
hallow basin
Fenrisians are tribal in a community sense but they wouldnt be smart enough to h...
literal tribalism
storm jungle
Yep.
hallow basin
the catch is you giving them money
astral burrow
Yeah 7$
That's like
1/5 of a mini
And you get 2!
Oh, annual subscribers
60$
That's still nice
60$ for an annual subscription is pretty cheap
storm jungle
Up to you if you wanna pay for that really yeah
astral burrow
Up to you if you wanna pay for that really yeah
You get access to the things AND 2 free minis
That's cheaper than just buying the minis
We all know 1 mini wouldn't be enough for anyone
astral burrow
Nah not up to me cuz I am broke
nocturne crest
Would anyone watch a Necromunda TV show
astral burrow
storm jungle
Would anyone watch a Necromunda TV show
People will watch anything
It just needs to be good.
storm jungle
Nah not up to me cuz I am broke
Damn shame.
storm jungle
Is there a mechanicus show or movie or anomationm
No. Just some episodes featuring them.
astral burrow
Aw
Where is that one scene of 2 marines punching and shooting a guy from
Ah, astartes
God I really wanna reinstall space marine 2
astral burrow
Oh astartes 1-5 are on YouTube
astral burrow
Miiiid
I liked the gameplay
Made me feel quite heavy and big lol
And the animations were cool
storm jungle
Made me feel quite heavy and big lol
Yeah until a Warrior pack starts gangbanging you
astral burrow
But I have a mid laptop so all the textures were blurry and muddy and I got tired
storm jungle
Oh astartes 1-5 are on YouTube
GW removed them originally after taking the guy that made them
a fan reuploaded the original versions so they dont get lost
astral burrow
Yeah until a Warrior pack starts gangbanging you
God that one mission in campaign where I had to protect 3 parts across a circle
celest dome
Would anyone watch a Necromunda TV show
Munda is best, so yes
astral burrow
God that one mission in campaign where I had to protect 3 parts across a circle
It took me like 3 attempts solo
The ai is so dumb
storm jungle
Why do you think it is mid?
Its very formulaic and gets boring fast, the combat is also just wonky compared to SM1.
its good for "Baby's First Warhammer" but like eh
astral burrow
It was my first Warhammer...
astral burrow
Got it as a gift from a helldiver lol
nocturne crest
I wonder if there are any gangers on Atoma or is Necromunda a unique situation.
astral burrow
I like third person shooters
A lot
Where I can customize my character AND see them
storm jungle
I wonder if there are any gangers on Atoma or is Necromunda a unique situation.
Gangers are literally gangsters.
Where humanity exists in any way shape or form, crime also exists
gangers are on every single planet
astral burrow
Astartes 1 to 5 is only 12 mins total damn
nocturne crest
I'm just wondering if there is something like a house Cawdor on Atoma.
storm jungle
No there isnt.
The Houses in Munda are also Noble Houses
they just got more lore on themselves
nocturne crest
Ah
astral burrow
Seems I only played sm2 for 13 hours
Wonder if it runs better now
Meh I will reinstall sm2 see if it runs better
celest dome
No there isnt.
While there isn't "Cawdor" there are some that are similar.
I think some of the cosmetics mentioned gangs that are overly religious and act quite like how the Cawdor do
astral burrow
No there isnt.
Discord showed me your default pfp I got scared
storm jungle
Discord showed me your default pfp I got scared
Damn thats messed up.
normal light
I'm just wondering if there is something like a house Cawdor on Atoma.
Bands of mumbling fanatics who wage their "righteous" war against "the heretics" can be present on different worlds.
Really depends on how galvanised certain individuals are.
normal light
Really depends on how galvanised certain individuals are.
And circumstances around mentioned world.