40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

Its just gibberish text.

[vagrant fox]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/s/xgpEdWPqo2

It's peak

[sacred ginkgo]

Enviornmental storytelling

I never read the name on this thing

[lament shoal]

I realized the other day that the ultramarines having the largest territory in the imperium and the most space marines at their disposal ties into their roman theme lol

Like it just dawned on me

[dapper gyro]

You would be surprise why they are the 13th marine legion.

[median star]

are their any other notable marines that wore anthropomorphic helmets like that of dantes

[arctic talon]

Sanguinary guard for blood angels and their successors in general wear deathmasks, dantioch had a helmet in the shape of the IH legion symbol

[lofty mason]

I have a bunch of questions regarding the legal system (if there is one) for Astartes:

• How are SM tried for their crimes? Is there like a specific court for them?
• What are some possible crimes they can be charged with?
• What are the punishments? (||We seen that Titus got sent to another chapter as a form of atonement, but can SM be "de-powered" for their crimes?||)

[arctic talon]

1. Inqusition or chapter handles it. As with most imperium things the trial is not very fair.

2. Heresy, being a traitor, way too much friendly fire, disobeying a marine who’s a superior officer hard enough that it goes wrong.

3. Death, servitorization, exile, some sort of other penance

||Titus was being tortured by the inqusitor after space marine 1 for info. Him ending up in deathwatch was self flagellation and he had nowhere else to go||

[lofty mason]

wait. There are servitor Astartes?

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-14634295

[arctic talon]

Yes marines can get turned into servitors if they fuck up hard enough

Usually they just get killed

[lofty mason]

My phone autocorrected servitor.

[arctic talon]

More often the inqusition or imperium punishes an entire chapter

When it gets directly involved

All the traitors at badab got sent on a penitent crusade

[arctic talon]

And lost their homeworld

[lofty mason]

Considering that SM are like prized possession against the horror of the universe, turning them into servitor is crazy.

[arctic talon]

It’s other marines doing it

Lol

The imperium has a saying, “only in death can redemption be found”

[opaque coyote]

Do they at least take the geneseed

Actually

[arctic talon]

Yrd

[opaque coyote]

If you extract both the extra Geneseed and the geneseed already in the SM body

[arctic talon]

*yes

They'll be fine

[opaque coyote]

What happens to the body?

[arctic talon]

geneseed does literally nothing

to the body after its done like

[opaque coyote]

So can you theoretically lile

Get Geneseed implanted

Survive become cool space marine

And then after a while

Just get the two Geneseed out?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

And still be fine

[arctic talon]

but marines aren't built on efficency

lol

They're intentionally an inefficent system

[opaque coyote]

Also can you grow more than two Geneseed.

And by that I mean.

Second grows

Gets taken out

Can another grow?

[opaque coyote]

To prevent another Horusus Heresy?

[arctic talon]

No

they were just intentionally inefficent from the start

The Emperor was 99% likely to let them go extinct slowly

[opaque coyote]

I guess in case if the Emperor finishes the webway thing and is like

"Okay we're done here. Where's mount Ararat?"

[arctic talon]

but yeah Marines were like

most likely up for extermination

after the Emperor was done with them

now granted he wouldn't have exterminated them all

he would have absolutely let them go extinct on purpose

[opaque coyote]

The Emperor's fine scalpel thrown away once used

[arctic talon]

well

the Legions were more like a jackhammer

lol

at the very least he was already working on an upgrade

the Raptor Program and Primaris projects

were both WIP

[opaque coyote]

Is there any art for like Marine Servitor? Out of like curiosity

[lofty mason]

What’s the webway project?

[arctic talon]

Mini, they had the astartes keyword lol

not the Space marine faction keyword

the specific this is a marine keyword lol

now granted that could have been a gameplay concession

[arctic talon]

The emperor was going to breach into the Webway and use it for FTL

he was also going to probably exterminate the navigators

lol

actually not even probably

he 100% was going to lol

probably along with all abhumans

[lofty mason]

So basically a more classic FTL. Instead of breaching into the warp, you use other means instead. I mean it will drastically reduce the chance of corruption which is good.

[median star]

what was the raptor program

[arctic talon]

fast incubation for better marines, resulted in horribly mutated marines with physical deformities. Corax used them as disposable shock troops

Matured in under 12 weeks

and were stronger, and faster then marines

the program was scrapped since the Raptors were too unstable and in constant agony

[median star]

wasnt that whole thing w corax alpha legion meddling or did he just get a bunch of homunculi marines twice

[arctic talon]

also a precursor to the Primaris project

Yeah

that was from AL meddeling

but the program was given to Corax incomplete

The first raptors from before the program was finished by Corax were spit out were that way

but the Marines had a replacement inprogress from the Selenar genecults with the Primaris and Raptor projects

[dapper gyro]

If Im not wrong, the Raptor doesn't have gene seed defect like the rest of RG way before the Primaris reinforcement.

[arctic talon]

Raptors had other issues but yeah they didn't have the melanin stealer issue

also primaris RG still have the Melanin stealer issue

[dapper gyro]

Also, the improved marines and the primaris program are 2 different things, one is just built upon other.

Every SM founding has at least a few attempt of creating a better marines.

[dapper gyro]

Same with primaris Sally...

[lament shoal]

Some of the marines in the Salamanders 1st company wear helmets that are fashioned to look like snarling drakes on one half

[barren prawn]

"‘Guide you,’ Ferrus insists. ‘I am dead. Lost. Damned."

soooooooo

its confirmed??

[lament shoal]

Then there's the space wolves with their wolf helmets

[storm jungle]

Yeah hes gay.

[median star]

are their any books from the emperors perspective

[storm jungle]

Master of Mankind and some chapters in End and the Death.

Next question.

[median star]

which is better

[storm jungle]

Depends on your tastes.

Next question.

[median star]

do you think gw letting fatshark exist rumbler and kickback into existence is a one off or theyll let them maybe make something new again

[storm jungle]

Depends on what Fatshark wants to do.

[celest dome]

Depend on what you mean by making new things

[storm jungle]

They just ask for stuff they want, and GW either approves it or denies it, thats all.

[median star]

so iv heard the two weapons i listed didnt exist prior to darktide

[celest dome]

Like Smooth bore launcher already existed and had models

[median star]

iv been lied to

[storm jungle]

they are literally grenade launchers

[storm jungle]

one just uses buckshot ammo

[shadow plover]

rumbler and kickback weren't really an all new idea

[storm jungle]

Yeah that

[celest dome]

THe only thing new would be that Ogryn pattern exist

[storm jungle]

almost all the weapons in the game are from miniatures

[shadow plover]

you could say having them be ogryn sized - - what Cacti said

[celest dome]

Are there even any weapon that doesn't have any models ? Even if they don't look the same, but being the same "class" of weapons

[storm jungle]

Not really no yeah.

[celest dome]

Maybe the 2h Force Sword ?

[storm jungle]

its mostly due to them being "mundane" somewhat so theres always some precedence for them, minus the ones that are a 1:1 lift like the tactical axe etc.

and yeah basically shit like that, but like... its just a force-sword but big so

[raven stone]

Yea Force Swords as a concept was always on the Tabletop, GW is a bit inconsistent themselves about whether one or two handedness are different between edition anyways.

[median star]

so whats with the diff types of chainsword i see some that are just one edged while others will have the chain completely exposed i tend to see the 1 sides one a lot more tho

[raven stone]

Current 10th is “no, no difference rules wise”

[celest dome]

Just different patterns

There arent' really any difference in what they can do

[raven stone]

Yea, one rule of 40k is that even the same piece of tech is made differently across the entire galaxy.

[celest dome]

Usually the Full chain ones are older editions

[raven stone]

So you end up with different patterns and designs

[median star]

i imagine the completely exposed one is a lot more flexible in how it can wielded

[raven stone]

Probably lore wise, but on tabletop at this point in time they have the same rules.

[celest dome]

But is also more dangerous toward the user

The thing with Chain/Shock/Power/Transonic/Force... is that every type of melee weapon can exist in any variation

So you could have a Chain Rapier (Though no idea how that would look)

[raven stone]

Yea, all the above can have Power/Chain/Force/Monomolecular variants.

[celest dome]

Chain Gauntlet Sword exist in Chain pattern (Jakhal)

[raven stone]

But on Tabletop - admittedly, GW probably decided it is better for the creative juices - they are just collectively called “Power/Chain/Force/Monomolecular weapon”.

Since GW realised they don’t want to gimp everyone into modelling the exact right weapon piece to get the best stat line advantage.

(Admittedly they do know they will get a lot of money, but even they realize it would have players hate them too much to pay at all.)

[median star]

do power or chainweapons ever have to be recharged or fueled

[raven stone]

Depends on pattern, but generally I don’t think so.
Or at least, there is enough to last one engagement.

(Our Rejects’ weapons probably have built in limits so to limit the damage we do if we go AWOL)

‘Refuelling’ a power or chain weapon might be the sort of thing you do downtime between different engagements.

[median star]

i think iv seen a few times power swords that are cabled to a backpack not sure if theyre just extra juiced or they need constant power as an inferior model or what

[celest dome]

Yes

SM Power weapons usually are charged by their armour's reactor

[raven stone]

Ah ok

[raven stone]

Different patterns. Veteran’s Powersword doesn’t need cabling - the battery is probably inside the handle in this case.

[median star]

never seem to see ogryn with chain weapons

[storm jungle]

There

[celest dome]

IIRC There is old lore about Chain weapons not being issued to Ogryn, due to them not using them well

[median star]

i imagine theyd probably accidentally sit on it or worse

[storm jungle]

Im sure actual people are more likely to do that

https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-24-2021/7zXljA.gif

[prime flicker]

Sweet baby raptor jesus gimme that!

[celest dome]

It's from the Scab faction concept arts from Miguel

[prime flicker]

It's kinda like a chain machete, and I know it won't happen but damn would I love to have it.

[median star]

maybe nit picking but why does the grenade gauntet have rifling with how small the grenades are also in game is 5rd while only 4 when looking down the barrel tube thing

[storm jungle]

It looks cool.

[celest dome]

Cause Tech is widely uncomprehensible in 40k, so they slap rifling in every weapon

even when it make no sense for it

[median star]

could the grenades in these in theory be any sort of nade ie krak or melta or is it only ever seen as frag/he in lore

[celest dome]

Not that we've seen before, but nothing really prohibiting it as far as it's written

[winter vessel]

Doing some more paint combinations. I just found out, grey seer is a far better coating for the Carcharodons then their default chapter color you get in SM2.

[storm jungle]

Yeah the same goes for Raptors green and other stuff too.

The tones they picked for some Chapters base colors look really off so the alts always end up better.

[round tartan]

forget about new weapons
I WANT THEM TO ADD MOTORCYCLES INTO THE GAME

[celest dome]

Already done

[median star]

their are like little go cart vehicles on some of the maps

[celest dome]

The Quad

And there is somewhere some Bikes

[summer mural]

that seat looks too small for a sm ass

[median star]

i wonder why

[summer mural]

or an ogryn one

can ogryns even drive

[celest dome]

???

[storm jungle]

the rot consumes

[queen laurel]

Average drifty brain

[median star]

unwise to let ogryn drive da boat me thinks

[celest dome]

Do Hives have Driver courses ?

[summer mural]

??? arent there only space marines in 40k?

maybe

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cola-cat-cola-explosion-luma-ai-gif-12441479630905084027

[summer mural]

do hives even have like highways?

[median star]

we have the bridge of many martyrs looked pretty drivable last time i was there

[summer mural]

I guess you could have them if you have enough room for trains

[round tartan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFQee_ZBzZI
this is probably how driving licenses work in 40k

[celest dome]

Going back to weapons that FS could create or give appearances that don't have any yet:
Give appearance: Ogryn Mace Fist; Ogryn Flails
Create: Power or Transonic Shears (Zealot or Admech), Psyker's Biomantic Hammer, Zealot's Chain-Drill Hammer, Ogryn Drill Gauntlet

[round tartan]

Flails were already a thing in VT2 so it would be trivially easy for Fatshark to bring them to Darktide as a new weapon type. They already did that sort of thing by giving the Ogryn a pickaxe, all they really had to do was make new Ogryn-sized animations to make it work, the game mechanics were already more or less worked out.

[shadow plover]

Ethereal Snake my beloved

[celest dome]

But we don't really have any set appearnace of Flails in 40k yet iirc

[round tartan]

Come on - we have revolvers. Those are even less "40k" than flails, which I think actually exist on some models even.

[celest dome]

There are Revolver models...

[round tartan]

Really? I don't remember ever seeing any. In Necromunda or something?

oh nvm

[celest dome]

Flails I can't find other than SM Stuff

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/NA4ItRmWhzE?si=YoLdi8LVOleyLAzc
@arctic talon

[summer mural]

skitarii have a bunch of revolver user

[round tartan]

Still, I don't see how flails wouldn't be a perfectly fine weapon to add for Zealots at least. Flails do exist in the lore.

[summer mural]

well

Im never leaving the eviscerator

i doubt theyl add a zealot melee weapon that I find cooler than a 2 handed chainsword

[celest dome]

Chain Flails

[crystal forum]

what would a flail add to the game

[celest dome]

Flails are cool 🤷

[crystal forum]

mechanically

[celest dome]

"blunt" chain weapon, Flail movement, shield bypass ?

[round tartan]

Going by the VT2 comparison, they have an entirely different moveset and feel to them.

[crystal forum]

cecil

[vagrant fox]

give us the 1911 stub gun

[hallow saddle]

Some kind of Arco flagellant electro whip thing would be kinda sick

For zealot and psyker maybe

If not an actual flail

[nocturne crest]

Dual weld flamers?

[celest dome]

To see if Whips can work in a tide game.
In any case Flails should happen anyway 🤷

[celest dome]

Hand Flamers ?

[raven stone]

Actually in terms of new weapons...

• hand flamers for zealots (Yes mini flamethrowers)
• Plasma Pistol for Vets.

• Inferno Pistol and Meltagun

[celest dome]

Hand Flamers

[raven stone]

CQC weapons are well covered enough unless we just get a new PSword variant for Vets (since it seems like each weapon should get 3 variants)

Same for Chainsword

[celest dome]

New melees are more interesting than new ranged to me 💀
Tide game are about melee combat and all

[raven stone]

Fair.
Basically any weapon that doesn't have all 3 variants should get 3 variants.

[nocturne crest]

What about adding an Incinerator for Vet and Zealot?

[raven stone]

Incinerator could be a flamer variant mark

Not necessarily a full blown weapon on its own

[celest dome]

Incinerator would be quite to valuable

[raven stone]

A high(er) damaged flamer with a certain tradeoff, I can see that working

[celest dome]

Yes, but not being an Incinerator

[raven stone]

Imagine Psykers getting Psycannons...

[celest dome]

Psy Bolts would be more possible, but I'd see the process apply on some other ammo

[rocky gale]

Sucks we can’t really get a mechanic to properly represent Psyker prescience

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kobD-TNxWJI

[rocky gale]

Like the scenes in Witchbringer where Glavia is just dancing through the field executing people point blank and avoiding every shot because she can see the future

[remote widget]

I .... don't like the lore implications of the brown tube

[raven stone]

I mean
It's a life support thing, so...

[remote widget]

But does the emperor poop, besides warpstorms

[plush mason]

his body is dead so no

its his soul they keep alive

[remote widget]

Thats a heresy, isn't it, or at least an extremist sect belief

[plush mason]

no afaik, he is the carrion lord of humanity, the cult has never claimed his body lives only his soul

i doubt they would build statues and murals of him as a skeleton if they did say his body was also alive

basically his body was marytered but his soul lives on and guides and protects humanity

[remote widget]

Well there's many schizms, some believe he is still whole, some dead, i thought that was considered an uncommon view. It's not like anyone has seen him in a long time. Ghilliman, cypher, goge, any others?

[plush mason]

inquisitor Draco :P

[summer mural]

isnt the emperor corpse alpharius

and hes just doing a long roleplay

[plush mason]

lmao

[remote widget]

He hid he was a psyker? Figures

[plush mason]

but yeah there are a lot of sects and schizms in the cult so there are likely 1000s of them that do believe he lives in both body and soul

hell house Escher thinks he is a she

[remote widget]

Gw accidentally legitimising those boobmarines and Femarch sculpts

[plush mason]

its only natural they would given the house's history and culture

Escher men are only good for tossing in a cryotube for reproductive use or in a corpse grinder so why would they worship a male god?

[celest dome]

Honestly the only way to represent that would probably just be to slow down the game (for the whole team)

[plush mason]

which would be so broken

[celest dome]

It could be made to work, as an ability (Could be done without Psyker with Combat Drugs too)

[summer mural]

FUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKK

i left home for a bit to pick up something and now theres a giant rainstorm raging and Im stuck in a coffee shop

smh

Im gonna miss a online meeting lmao

[plush mason]

life be lifing rn

[tall plinth]

Who is this?

[hallow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-gaimon-gaimon-one-piece-buggy-buggy-one-piece-gif-14338501024091033265

[celest dome]

Khorne's Skulliest warrior

[vagrant fox]

this is a khornate meme channel now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648179640506122250/1366854260083396719/7d2f4f94-a880-4c3b-b4eb-0cd31f66bc8a.jpg?ex=68146ffa&is=68131e7a&hm=0f85a90581d1886e79cd2bbb710b518aa282b72c54b3a0a3a0a2407d087bf129&

[soft thunder]

I think I just realized that vox is literally just the bastardized version of aux.

[rose thorn]

bets on if there will be a horus heresy thursday today

[raven stone]

Vox is actually Latin for “voice”

Lots of Low Gothic is kind of rip-off Latin

[dapper gyro]

It is to balance the gameplay, and DT Psyker has empathic evasion, which makes you immune to range attack on critical hit, so you can just melee the horde without worry.

[lament shoal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/GRYd5vg6FSM?si=EPrhQvWSG2bzD3Cn

[tough haven]

I couldn’t imagine fighting world eaters without turn one charge, it would be like playing against a normal army

[tough haven]

FUCK IT TURN 1 CHARGE!! 🗣️

[queen laurel]

https://youtu.be/2g2dMyClqkc?si=mXuPUx_dBDve9cgJ @arctic talon @shadow plover

[shadow plover]

oh cool, they've started to do lore videos on their channel proper

[rocky gale]

He's supposed to be 16, why does he look 9

[nocturne crest]

Would it make sense for the Vet to get a heavy stubber?

Something like this?

[celest dome]

Lore wise ? Sure

[rocky gale]

Unfortunately Vet can't compete with the alpha chad energy of the chaos cultist lady holding the heavy stubber

[lament shoal]

Geared up for war. Boutta go fuck up some Word Bearers

[nocturne crest]

What about the other one who is welding the gun only admech can use?

[celest dome]

Which one ?

None of those cultist have Admech stuff

[nocturne crest]

Apparently, she's welding a Stubcarbine

[celest dome]

Are you sure ? Cause I think it's a Autopistol ?

https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/chaos-space-marines/Cultist-Mob-with-Firearms

[nocturne crest]

I read it was a Stubcarbine because she is the cultist's champion.

[celest dome]

Ye, initially it was, now it's back to an Autopistol

[nocturne crest]

Ah

Odd question, but would there be anything such as admech zealots? Regular people who preach the Omnissiah without previous links to the admech organisation?

[celest dome]

It's writable but not really explored upon

So probably

[tough haven]

They exist in forges of mars books

But are often found as hereteks since they aren’t initiated into the cult

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if there is way darktide could make admech zealots a thing.

[tough haven]

And thus, it is illegal for them to interact with technology

[celest dome]

Like current Zealot but having an Admech personality ? Or just having an Admech archetype ?

[nocturne crest]

Both options?

[celest dome]

Option 1 wouldn't work well (Due to cosmetics, abilities and weapons)
And Option 2 could do it more easily by not having them be something different than simply Admech Zealot as background

[arctic talon]

Admech archetype would be more likely

Yeah

[celest dome]

Honestly having them not be part of the Admech proper (Like Technica Guilds that are sometime mentioned), but sub servient to various cults (As we already know that both Mars and Metalica has influence on Atoma), leaning on those for the personalities.
And having the weapons and stuff be made available by teaching by the Admech and trade against the Moebian Steel

[raven stone]

Remember to hit them with the shovel.

[raven stone]

Skitarii or Ad Mech as playable class…

[celest dome]

Skitarii would have problems with the Reject tag

[queen laurel]

Yeah tech adept is like the most plausible

Because they could either be rejected or kick out of the institution for crazy ideas

[opaque coyote]

Isn't a punishment for mechanicus members basically being stripped of their augments

That would basically be a easy explanation for why they only have like

An autopistol

[queen laurel]

This is also warham are you could just say that the institution they worked in was like

Decided to send them away to be either repurpose into something different

Or as punishment reduce them into minial work of being near rejected fools

[opaque coyote]

Being sent to be repurposed into a Servitor

Only to get a second chance

Or at least arguably a better fate than being servitorized

[queen laurel]

Yeah but considering that the usual theme on our characters is committing a crime that isn't that bad

You can say the institution they are in let them go easy

Well easy by imperium standards

This is the same empire that punishes you for complaining

[nocturne crest]

Heretek, but they're just doing what orks do and making DIY combi-weapons

Stuff like a storm-laspistol

[arctic talon]

No

Punishment varies

[celest dome]

I'd go even lower, Technica Crews, taught by Admech Envoy to maintain stuff in the Hive

[plush mason]

does the admech have a penal regiment equivalent?

[arctic talon]

Not really

Tech thralls and servitors

I guess

[plush mason]

makes sense

[arctic talon]

Thralls are lower then servitors

In the hierarchy

[celest dome]

Adseculari would be the closest yes

[summer mural]

i wonder if m2 will have the cav

the hounds and the horse lookin mechanical mounts

serberos?

[winter vessel]

serberys

[summer mural]

serberys*

ye

[celest dome]

Pteraxis would be nice to have too

[summer mural]

raiders and sulphurhounds

[celest dome]

If there is more verticality

[winter vessel]

i didn't know about those until now. thought you were referring to the Ironstriders (Chicken Walkers)

[summer mural]

well I wouldnt have, but they had like

kastellans

serberys units would be nice in a turn based game

[celest dome]

Might need bigger maps to make them work well

[arctic talon]

Tbh the maps look bigger

Sorta

[plush mason]

iirc they did say 2 will have a wider range of units

[arctic talon]

Playable videx/hj

[summer mural]

playable flayed ones

[plush mason]

the necron campaign wont be playable without them imo

[summer mural]

Im pretty sure flayed ones are gonna be playable as long as necrons are playable

[plush mason]

and we know they are

2 seperate campaigns

[outer wave]

Necron lord is a girl??????

[winter vessel]

heh

[arctic talon]

It’s a vargard

[outer wave]

😔

[arctic talon]

Surprisingly not an overlord or lord

Tbh

Which was what I expected

[plush mason]

wtf is a vargard?

[outer wave]

^?

[celest dome]

When it was 1st announced, some people were speaking of a 3rd faction (without anything pointing to it).
And the one that would fit the most for M2 (or M3) would be a Tau Earth Exploration fleet

[plush mason]

well i assume a vargard is fairly high ranking?

[arctic talon]

Super high ranking lychguard

Pretty much equivalent to a lord in terms of military command

[celest dome]

Personal body guard of the Lord

[arctic talon]

*Overlord

[plush mason]

ah

well it seems her dynasty's crownworld is in admech hands so its clear what her mission will be

[winter vessel]

pretty big fellas too

[arctic talon]

We have like

2 known vargard in canon

One is imotekh’s bodyguard I forgot their name

[plush mason]

get it bad before the boss wakes up

[arctic talon]

And the other is Obyron

[winter vessel]

ah yeah, Obryon the UNIT

[plush mason]

we dont even know which dynasty this is afaik

[arctic talon]

It’s prolly sautekh

The dynasty in mechanicus 1 was sautekh

The scheme in 2 looks the same

[plush mason]

makes sense

[winter vessel]

kinda wish it was a different dynasty

[plush mason]

we only killed an overlord of the sautekh in 1 so now we might get to kill the real boss

[arctic talon]

Well

The sautekh don’t have a Phaeron rn

Well

It’s imotekh

Imotekh is the phaeron

But he hasn’t taken the title of
Phaeron

[winter vessel]

anyone remember the last time Maynarkh got any attention?

[arctic talon]

Mentioned in pariah nexus and necron codexes

That’s about it

Last actual appearance was imperial armor 12

[winter vessel]

shame, i like their colors

[nocturne crest]

Can the process for tech-thralls and servitors be reversed?

[arctic talon]

Servitor no

Tech thrall yes but no one would do that

Tech thralls are lower then servitors

Lower then menials

[nocturne crest]

What about giving their personality back if there were a convict?

[celest dome]

Tech Thralls don't really have their personalities shut down

[arctic talon]

Tech thralls are fully sentient and sapient still

[celest dome]

Servitor can sometime have their personality return, but it's not something people know how to do

[arctic talon]

They just get puppeteed in combat

[nocturne crest]

Are tech thralls still a thing in 40k?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[crystal forum]

wolf did you watch it

[arctic talon]

Watch what

[crystal forum]

the video i pinged you with this morning

[arctic talon]

Seemed like brainrot

So no

[crystal forum]

no it's funny

trust me

[arctic talon]

Felt like sand paper on my brain

[crystal forum]

admit you laughed at least once

[arctic talon]

It made me smile

[crystal forum]

"i'm gonna fly"

[arctic talon]

[winter vessel]

keep forgetting, is it the 10th company the one that holds the most Vanguard squads in a chapter?

[arctic talon]

As in Phobos armored squads? Yeah

[winter vessel]

sigh okay. Gonna need more coins to get that knee marking for my Eliminator.

[rose thorn]

A model for necromunda was revealed not too long ago

[rose thorn]

This is what it feels like talking to space marine fans

[nocturne crest]

The Psychoteric Thrall?

[rose thorn]

The one that came with the master of whispers?

[nocturne crest]

This guy?

[rose thorn]

Sorry wait do you mean baby tech priests or cyborg zombies

Baby as in experience

[nocturne crest]

I was just wondering if these guys are still used in 40k

[crystal forum]

autism at its peak

[rose thorn]

ohhh zombie cyborgs

Yes

The guy you sent is a tech thrall, but they are mainly used for like not combat stuff

[crystal forum]

i thought tech thralls were servitors with their brain still mostly intact

[nocturne crest]

Apparently, they're lower than servitors.

And I was wondering if a person could be turned back from a tech thrall.

Also, I learnt there used to be tech-gangs in the pre-version of 1st edition Necromunda.

[arctic talon]

Nah, it’s just someone horribly mutilated with cybernetics as punishment

They have full brain functions

But they can be puppeted or commanded to do stuff against their will

[crystal forum]

ye

grimdark stuff

[arctic talon]

No one would ever do it is the thing tbh

Not unless the priest cared about the person it was done to

Which is unlikely

[winter vessel]

And we all know if caring was a credit score, a Techpriest’s would be low as hell

[crystal forum]

they'd be on the IRS's hit list

[rose thorn]

They didn’t even reveal horus heresy slop today, shit must be on fire at gw

[raven stone]

Expect another Heresy Friday

But unlike last time, we can’t joke about Angron being so angry he crashed the community page

…unless the reveal IS the tiny Legiones Imperialis version of him.

[dapper gyro]

Those 2 are for scale.

Actually, the Archelon could be bigger, it is 1/35 while the marine is 1/32.

[sly ivy]

Big turtle

[nocturne crest]

So odd crossover question, but would the admech see the technologies of the cybermen as Xeno, despite it originally coming from the solar system.

[crystal forum]

it's still humans

mechanicus would steal the tech and make better tech thralls

or they wouldn't because cybermen would crumble to 40k weaponry

[nocturne crest]

I would particularly agree to that.

The cybermen do have some technological advantages, but it's dependent on their generation.

[crystal forum]

some cybermen iterations are pretty bullshit

like the ones that adapt to everything that could kill them

but if we're talking the earlier seasons of the reboot they would get folded so fast

[lament shoal]

I would but I'm already in the late game and its ass compared to the weapons I have now

[tough haven]

what act?

[rose thorn]

feel like out of all the legions, white scars look the best to use for HH adn 40k

they are already non conventional

[crystal forum]

are you sure

[rose thorn]

its liek

them, alpha legion, wbs, and space wolves

but maybe not wbs

since they are SUPER corrupt

[crystal forum]

think maggie think

[rose thorn]

oh duh NLs

NLs and alpha legion are the two most HH legions

[rose thorn]

Was nls who you meant

[lament shoal]

4

[tough haven]

You aren’t end game quite yet….

You’ll need the God-Emperor’s favor for the trials ahead

[storm jungle]

[summer mural]

damn

they got an infallible process and everything

these perfected methods are why the Imperium has no crime

truly, a society blessed by the Emperor

[queen laurel]

ah yes

the most Trust worthy process

[median star]

wonder why they settled on only three oracles

[storm jungle]

💀

[summer mural]

is rt getting more dlc a confirmed thing

[median star]

if i remember correctly its not for sure but they also havent ruled it out

something abt if the current ones sale well theyd look into making more

[rocky gale]

With how many DLC wrath ended up getting I imagine many more on the way

[summer mural]

yeah owlcat likes their dlc

but kingmaker didnt get that many

so maybe rt 2 will have more

[green loom]

Yes

[median star]

id like more continuations onto its story rather then just quest that are throughout it tbh

[summer mural]

its a confirmed thing?

[green loom]

GW likes DLC, Owlcat tends to make lots of DLC
Ergo, probably going to be more DLC

[summer mural]

what if they just start making rt 2

[median star]

itd be easier just to make a dlc

[summer mural]

I suppose making rt1 dlc is still profitable

its not like it has much dlc yet

[green loom]

They were still making DLC for Wrath while Rogue trader was releasing

Although I expect they'll do one of the other fantasy flight ttrpgs next

I'm dearly hoping for Dark Heresy

[rocky gale]

Only War would go hard though

[median star]

granted it might be eons inbetween dlc releases if they do more but i mean its almost a certainty theyd be good and worth the wait

[green loom]

They'll probably reveal a new roadmap during Skulls

[summer mural]

also watching these clips of valrak playing sm2 campaign is hilarious lmao

the man loses his mind obsessing over every detail

hes ecstatic

"LOOK AT THE GUARD FIGHTING"

" LOOK AT ALL THE NIDS THERE"

"OH MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY HOLY EMPEROR!"

[storm jungle]

Theres nothing to continue

the story is set with set endings

thats kind of it really

[raven stone]

If Owlcat does Dark Heresy I hope they link it to the RT campaign somehow, even if only by indirect lore mentions.

[summer mural]

is leandros a primaris marine

[raven stone]

By SM2 they all are Primaris.

SM1 is definitely still firstborn.

[summer mural]

also

acheron has like a giant badge on his chest

does that mean anything

[crystal forum]

sergeant thing

[summer mural]

isnt he capn

[crystal forum]

or i guess just general officer

[summer mural]

i figured it was one of those space marine capns dress however they want thing

[crystal forum]

there's prob a name for it

[green loom]

It's just a medallion

[crystal forum]

some of my sergeant models have them

it's just like an extra place to paint decals

[summer mural]

also

is there some reason titus has like a slash across his non deathwatch pauldron

[crystal forum]

something slashed it

[summer mural]

well yeah but I asked because hes got it as soon they do the whole scene with him gearing up

the opening title scene basically

did they find his pauldron from sm1 and slap it on there

[crystal forum]

he'd been in the deathwatch for a looooong time by that point

[summer mural]

100 years I believe

[median star]

do all chapters practice the whole studs to denominate time served or

[round tartan]

People like to blabber on about how 40k is an allegory of this or that, but really, the Imperium is an allegory of GW itself. An authoritarian, overly complicated bureaucatic shadow of itself that keeps worshipping what once made it great, but is long since dead.

[shadow plover]

Would make more sense if we were still in the early 2010s, currently GW has been doing very well on almost every aspect

[sacred bluff]

Woah...

[sharp pollen]

Leutin sometimes comes to funny looking solutions for pictures for his videos

[summer mural]

Imagine if titus wipes our every tyranid in the galaxy and leandros at the end of it is like " the dark stain of suspicion never fades"

[near wasp]

If I was in a room with Lucius, Erebus and Leandros with two bolt shells id shoot Leandros twice

[summer mural]

leandros truly missed the class in soldier school where they teach you not to rat out your teammates

[raven stone]

If Leandros was a Commissar he would have gotten the Morrow treatment…

Well this is sus

Still no community update thing at all…

[dapper gyro]

To be fair, shooting the other 2 is a waste of ammunition.

[near wasp]

It's the principle that matters

[green loom]

I hate Titus

Or rather I hate Stock Space Marine Protagonist man

[near wasp]

Do we need to have an honor duel?

[raven stone]

I mean, saying Space Marines are over represented isn’t exactly a hot take nowadays.

More like a lukewarm take.

[green loom]

I didn't call it a hot take

[raven stone]

Fair, just joking around.

Bored from WFH and just staring at work chat to make sure I don’t miss anything before long weekend hits,

[plush mason]

so random tau question, do the castes intermingle or do they keep their relationships within caste lines?

[queen laurel]

You mean an earth cast like

Getting in a relationship with someone from the fire cast

[plush mason]

yeah

[queen laurel]

If that's what you mean then no

My memory is a bit fuzzy on the topic but i'm pretty sure they don't allow that type of thing

If you want to to be in a relationship you're going to have to stick with your caste

[plush mason]

makes sense

[dapper gyro]

Titus represents a not so forgotten era of the UM, once known as UltraSmurf.

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-office-spongebob-on-fire-gif-13729593

Gw rn

[near wasp]

The tau absolutely do not want the castes to intermingle

The only place where tau freely interbreed is the farsight enclaves

[crystal forum]

tau are all about strict social roles and shit

[tough haven]

And it slays

[tough haven]

Also pretty sure they dictate who and when you can

Also only designated breeding pairs can have children

[raven stone]

Must be papa Nurgle breaking everything, considering we only got an upload for how to start a Deathguard army

[near wasp]

Lowkey think death guard is the most common traitors because I swear they show up in more books than any other legion

[storm jungle]

$$$

[arctic talon]

Even then there’s no caste interbreeding iirc, you’re just free to pick your partner within your caste

[winter vessel]

arrow to the knee virgin vs arrow to the cornea chad

[rose thorn]

Watch them reveal even more space wolves

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah, which of the legions cause the least amount of ecological damage

[near wasp]

Nightlords

[vagrant fox]

Salamanders and Ultramarines used the fewest destroyer squads iirc but I doubt they were environmentally friendly despite that

[queen laurel]

i mean salamander flamethrowers aren't really environmentally friendly last time I checked

[vagrant fox]

Not much of the Imperial war machine would be

[queen laurel]

yeah they have literal virus bombs

[arctic talon]

Least; Raven guard and alpha legion

Since they usually conquered worlds with subterfuge

[queen laurel]

Yeah this

[arctic talon]

Oh also night lords

Though psychological damage to the planet

Was prolly huge lol

[vagrant fox]

Something about planets surrendering when they heard the NL were on the way, that's pretty eco friendly

[rose thorn]

ravenguard is less subterfuge tbf, also they do have like dedicated terrorists

[queen laurel]

now let's spice up this question up a little bit

which Xenos is Eco friendly

immediately off the questions are orks and tyranids

[rose thorn]

anyoen who says tyranids will be neck punched

[queen laurel]

orks are orks and tyranids literally eat the environment

[arctic talon]

Eldar

Excluding drukhari

[rose thorn]

you sure nto drukhari?

they dont really use weapons of mass destruction

[arctic talon]

They use a bunch of poison

That fucks up the environment

Poisons the water table

Ect.

[rose thorn]

oh yeah fair

[queen laurel]

no because yes like wolf said a lot of chemical weapons

[rose thorn]

votaan use literal planet breaker s

[queen laurel]

but also eldar

literally talk to the environment

[arctic talon]

Tau do normal industrialization stuff

[queen laurel]

you can't get any friendlier than that

[arctic talon]

So like

[rose thorn]

thats only for certain planets

[arctic talon]

As eco friendly as the imperium/hj

[queen laurel]

they still talk to the environment the other factions don't really do that

[rose thorn]

they use nuclear energy but like, texas nculear energy

GSCs are weird

since its a coin flip between becoming an armed military state or just sleep in teh grass in white robes

[arctic talon]

why not both

[queen laurel]

to be fair they are a global warming acceleration group

they call upon a faction to literally destroy the planet

not really eco friendly those guys are

[rose thorn]

they could be eco friendly, stopping the factories and shit

but yeah its not meant to last

like hive cult are obviously not ecofriendly

oh yeah how much ecoterrorism does space wolves cause

[queen laurel]

um their psykers call upon blizzards so

i guess alot

[rose thorn]

lmao

sounds right

what about whitescars?

they do call upon hurricanes and stuff

and rain storms

[arctic talon]

Tbh

Extreme psychic weather phenomena passes fast

So it’s not the worst

[rose thorn]

oh never mind they do talk to nature and shit too

always forget whitescars are just cooler space wolves

i keep forgetting these guys exist, they are perfect for chaos spawn

[green loom]

I wonder if the arbites companion just turns on you immediately if you break the law

[queen laurel]

oh these

Daemon Brutes

[rose thorn]

i thought it was an origin not a companion

[green loom]

I don't remember actually

[rose thorn]

i really feel like these were not meant for HH lmao

[green loom]

Yeah it's a comp

[rose thorn]

oh shoot

anwayy he will probably betray you if you mess with nobles lma o

every day i pray for an imperial kngiht themed thing in rogue trader

[queen laurel]

you're a rogue trader

if he betrays you he better have a good damn reason

[rose thorn]

they are like, brainwashed specifically to protect the nobel class and will arrest you lmao

[queen laurel]

being a rogue trader is being a noble class+

[rose thorn]

i went to check the mod page for rogu etrader

[queen laurel]

you should have not

[rose thorn]

yeah

so much fuking ai

[rocky gale]

Top tier names for those characters

Septimol Fulg and Sholgor

[queen laurel]

and the eye candy

so much eye candy

[arctic talon]

Average death guard name

[rose thorn]

For a second I thought they stole the name from AOS

https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Maggoth_Lord

The chaos knight ‘houses’ that are basically giant robot demons are pretty cool tbh

[queen laurel]

that's just a daemon engine

But using the chassis of a knight

[rose thorn]

Yeah

It fills the ‘myth from hell that summons under certain circumstances’

Like whistling at night or something

[queen laurel]

imagine a khorne chaos knight growing wings

because a bloodthirster is inside of it

[rose thorn]

There’s one that summons from pools of blood

I have a chaos knight house in mind

Who are eternally cursed to seek a home if their own

But then that doenst fill the ‘omens of death’ vibe

Every planet the knight house lands on is destined to face a world ending apocalypse

So they kept fleeing and fleeing and every planet they go to is consumed

But that feels like it’s too much

So Meg

Meh*

[summer mural]

do space marines ever wear their chainswords on their hip

like if they are using a bolter

[median star]

have they considered staying on tha ships

[median star]

yea

they can maglock any of their weapons to their armor if im not mistook

including ammo and grenade etc

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Eldar gaming

[rose thorn]

Shit, true….

How many knight houses during the Horus heresy are like the modern chaos knights

I only can think of one example

[storm jungle]

Quite a few.

[near wasp]

Can new knights still be forged?

[plush mason]

as in the suits?

[rose thorn]

yeah they just take a while

unless your knight house islike, cooked

[storm jungle]

Yeah. Knights arent that hard to make

[plush mason]

and a few patterns are lost iirc, but other wise yeah they make new ones

[rose thorn]

i heard it takes a few years for aminger, and tens of years for the questors

[plush mason]

can they make new command thrones?

[storm jungle]

I was about to say yeah those are the actual hardest part to replace

an average resupply shipment from a Forge World to a vassal Knight World can give them a dozen new suits in comparison

the throne is the critical bit that is the most crucial

[near wasp]

Sweet. Writing my little fanfic has me thinking about how knights and such cause I want to be as accurate to the lore as I can

But I probably will stray a bit because even gw doesn't care about lore fidelity most times

[storm jungle]

Yeah remember theres as many [thing here] as the plot demands.

Just make a "realistic" number depending on the strenght of your scenario/House or just read the lexi and some reddit threads

[near wasp]

Numbers of knights will only matter for a while because as the story progresses there will be few and fewer knights in the complement

Eventually they shall fall or find there own path along the freeblade

[arctic talon]

The suits are easier then the throne/helm mechanicum

[sacred ginkgo]

It’s just a big lump of hydraulics and motors and armor plus some weapons and sensors

[tough haven]

Just write it that if they stay on the ships too long some calamity occurs on the ship every time

[rose thorn]

Nah it’s fine lmao

I wanna go down the like basically a demon robot route

[median star]

do specific chapters own or use specific forge worlds separate from each other for their ower armor or is it the all get made the same and just gets painted heraldry placed on them once they get to the actual chapter

[arctic talon]

Usually whatever forgeworld is closest, armor is often pre painted but not really decorated beyond the basic chest aquilla

[storm jungle]

we "It depends"-ing in this household fr fr

[median star]

do forge worlds have to be dedicated soley to making power armor or is it something they can be making at the same time as other stuff

[storm jungle]

Depends on the forgeworld.

Also like, its an entire planet made to be a factory, what do you think

[arctic talon]

No, forgeworlds are huge

An industrial world I could see being dedicated entirely to power armor production

A forgeworld is a planet that’s been turned into a factory

[median star]

so atoma a industrial world right

[storm jungle]

Its a hiveworld.

Hiveworlds can still have industrial outputs.

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[median star]

isnt atomas main use is making the tank tho

[arctic talon]

Atoma is a hive world

It does mining, manufacturing and administration

[storm jungle]

Making tanks doesnt make it an industrial world.

also yeah that

You need to realise while some Imperial worlds can have 1 function they still have other exports.

Again we are talking about an entire planet.

[arctic talon]

An industrial world is mostly dedicated to mass production of goods

But they also have other like qualiticactions

[storm jungle]

• Covered in factories etc.

A forgeworld has to be one owned by the admech.

[arctic talon]

Close ties to the mechanicus as well tbh

[median star]

is their like not a mechanicus element on atoma seeing as the only ones we hear about is kayex hadron and that one guy (all came with grendyls warband) and then that one random biologis on the planet

[storm jungle]

I mean yeah there is a mechanicus element on literally every single Imperial world.

they operate almost every technological aspect of Imperial society

[arctic talon]

the thing with an industrial world is that the mechanicus are often intertied with the ruling class directly

or the managment of a world

they are not in control, but they'll be in the ears of the govenor

[storm jungle]

Also the characters constantly mention techpriest operators in manufactorum levels. They exist.

[median star]

r they dumb whyd it take hadron and co rolling up for them to be able to rediscover mobian steel smh

[storm jungle]

Because its a lost sector of a gargantuan hive city.

https://tenor.com/view/cat-slap-attack-scratch-spray-bottle-gif-17118070709567052669

Next question.

[median star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1289731767254781962/1726208110518117.gif?ex=66f9e3cf&is=66f8924f&hm=ca5535cd13244933198bf30e86af78f242cce53d55d08cdebd3edc31328f746a&

[arctic talon]

prolly because the current atoman steel was good enough™️

but Hadron is a massive fucking nerd

[storm jungle]

Also a great portion of the mid-hive is overrun with heretics so theres that too

[median star]

so is kayex or hadron higher in the chain or are they on completely separate spectrums

[storm jungle]

Hadron is higher.

But also different spectrums.

Hadron is with us, Kayex is a part of Brahms retinue.

[median star]

whats the name of that one tech priest from the mortis trial audio that wanted to extermintus atoma is he brahms or warband or do we know

[arctic talon]

Kayex in theory could be higher no?

[storm jungle]

I guess, but hes pretty subservient

[arctic talon]

fair

[storm jungle]

Probably because hes like

so chill and uncaring

(also dementia)

💀

[storm jungle]

I forgor.

[median star]

one of his lines is him calling hadron and idiot basically

[storm jungle]

Yeah but theres a lot of lines where Hadron constantly talks down to him even if its "respectful".

Shes a much bigger arrogant cunt also.

[median star]

also would sefoni technically be apart of grendyls main retinue

[storm jungle]

She has a Inquisition sigil on her jacket

so yes

next question

[median star]

when does she wear a jacket

[storm jungle]

...

literally in the cutscene she appears in

Oh wait you mean Sefoni

I thought it was Masozi

[median star]

foolish smh

[storm jungle]

my brain mixed up those exotic names

but nah shes Inquisition too

[median star]

i know shes inquisitorn but im asking like would she be one of grendyls closer confidents being a powerful psyker and all i dont think masozi would be i think shes just an above average trooper/pilot tbh

[storm jungle]

No shes just a powerful psyker and very much batshit.

[storm jungle]

Masozi is the main ace pilot of the warband, shes very valuable, sometimes more than the people she carries.

these people are handpicked by Inquisitors for their retinues for a reason.

[median star]

i assume masozi was probably apart of a regiment or something before being yoinked by grendyl any guess as to which

[storm jungle]

We dont really know either way.

All pilots come from the Imperial Navy's aeronautica division

[median star]

and the newest additions to his warband would be zola then morrow right

[storm jungle]

Yeah Zola is way higher in the hierarchy just below Rannick, Morrow is like a middle-man/team-dad

[median star]

hows zola gotten so high already seeing as morrow and brunt are who had to rescue her

[storm jungle]

Because shes just good at her job, and prob displayed as much after she got taken. We got no idea how long the timejump is.

An Explicator is a high position but as displayed in the journals even a single bad fuckup can have her reprimanded, disposed or taken down to a nobody

[median star]

surprised rannick only gave her a slap on the wrist for the twins debacle

[storm jungle]

I mean it wasnt a slap

she was taken off operations for awhile as he discussed with the Inquisitor what to do with her.

She laments as much during the wait between journal entries, it was probably decided anyway that shes "useful for now".

And even when it was a debacle the twins still died, so it was a success.

[median star]

in the end tho it didnt result in any meaningful punishment tbh

[median star]

or did they

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850710858215456779/1203490330222141530/live_scab_bruiser_reaction.gif

[storm jungle]

I mean yeah because again the twins got killed.

Rinda coming back later doesnt change the fact that it was a big blow.

[median star]

tbh rodin was almost brought back as something

[storm jungle]

yeah and we intercepted it so

[median star]

what even is the deal that happens to him at the end of that mission

[storm jungle]

We dont know, it was just some daemonic ritual.

[languid meadow]

Rodin died for our sins

[median star]

hope they elaborate further on that missing inquisitors ship somehow thats talked abt in mortis audio

[storm jungle]

We'll see

[median star]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-interview-it-goes-without-saying-gif-12669775144079688963

[golden imp]

So the legion of the damned is actual lore and not just a fan homebrew thing?

for the longest time I thought they were just like a fan made thing

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if Dark Mechanicum can turn daemons into tech-thralls.

[crystal forum]

why

they could just make demon engines

[vagrant fox]

Complete with their own minis

[nocturne crest]

True.

[sacred ginkgo]

Real lore but not a thing since like 5th ed

[storm jungle]

Yeah they still exist, just barely remembered.

[sacred ginkgo]

I've helped sell their book

[vagrant fox]

Darkmech are cowards, they should make something cool instead of just shoving daemons into things

[forest orbit]

Do yall just never use google

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Legion_of_the_Damned

[vagrant fox]

Make a daemon into a cognito hazard or something at least

[golden imp]

Just never really looked into, saw a YouTube video talking about it then came here

[languid meadow]

We must destroy the fandom website

[crystal forum]

i know where they could shove one

[vagrant fox]

ur butt?

[crystal forum]

a titan

wtf is wrong with you

there's already a demon in there

[plush mason]

from what a have heard from some that worked at the site, that would take all of 5mins and a little code work lmao

[crystal forum]

it would take 5 seconds to restore to a previous version

[plush mason]

true

[crystal forum]

fandom is unkillable sadly

[plush mason]

like a weed

it just comes back

[tough haven]

put 7 more in and become an eightbound

[plush mason]

What would an 8bound daemon engine be like even

Or are they already a thing?

[arctic talon]

Prolly an extremely fucked up daemon engine

Tbh

[plush mason]

Just a baneblade with 2 of every god formed daemon in it lmao

[lament shoal]

She got her relic armor

[plush mason]

I failed to get it on my last run

No idea how

[median star]

could an ork actually ever die of old age i know almost impossible theyd ever reach that point before being blasted or worse but do they age in the conventional sense

[queen laurel]

not really?

orks are almost always explicitly explained to be immortal aging

They just keep growing and growing

but because of the way they live their life expectancy is

short

[tall plinth]

So

Lemme get this straight

What’s that thing in the back there what looks like an eye

[lament shoal]

The eye of horus

[median star]

eye of terra

[lament shoal]

Yes that's what it was known as before Horus' betrayal

[dusky scroll]

A question, Emperor lives by consuming a thousand souls of psykers daily.
Is it forcefed to him or does he eat willingly?

[opaque coyote]

"** Xenos General** zzttt Hunting us Fzzz **only a few of us left.... ** "

By WolfDawgartcorner

[arctic talon]

Willingly

[languid meadow]

A Necron overlord that fights like grievous would be awesome

[arctic talon]

Necrons don’t take to having extra arms very well

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/tales-of-an-empire-star-wars-dathomir-clone-wars-general-grievous-gif-7933370102625717063

[arctic talon]

Unless they’re destroyers

Makes the dysphorek worse

Which most Necrons would rather avoid

[opaque coyote]

I can imagine there being a necron overlord that basically was like

"I REJECT MY NECRONITY, JOJO!"

[arctic talon]

They’d become a destroyer lord

If they started rejecting their body

Or a flayed one

[opaque coyote]

I can imagine a destroyer going the more sleek/agile route

instead of the bulky ones we usually have

[queen laurel]

wolf general question how much does a mech from armored core keep up with a mech from lancer

[opaque coyote]

also this looks like a dick and balls

like

[arctic talon]

Which generation of armored core

[opaque coyote]

sick

[queen laurel]

The one you can find in the latest 1 fires of Rubicon

[arctic talon]

Uh

About as durable or less durable

Slower/faster depending on frame

[opaque coyote]

Yeah Destroyer Lord Necron Grevious sounds sick

[arctic talon]

Worse weaponry because magic bullshit exists in lancer

Behold the gun that literally never misses and doesn’t exist yet

[dusky scroll]

So the Emperor does NOT want to die!
From what I know, if the big E dies, either he will regenerate as he is a perpetual or will actually die and reincarnate as the next Chaos god (or something).
From his POV, both of them are worse outcome compared to the current stagnancy of his circumstances.

[arctic talon]

If the emperor dies terra literally explodes into a new eye of terror

that might be worse then The actual eye of terror

[opaque coyote]

If Big E dies, the side effect is literally wiping out the solar system into a new eye of terror

Warp Travel would also become difficult to near impossible

[queen laurel]

yeah then you have ******** like this

[opaque coyote]

Because the Emperor powers the Astronomicon

[arctic talon]

The water is wet

[opaque coyote]

Which acts as a reference point

[queen laurel]

So what you're saying is an AC is basically an average level

mech in lancer

[dusky scroll]

Maybe the other factions should send some guards to protect Terra as well.

[queen laurel]

got you

[spare osprey]

I LOVE OPHYDIAN DESTROYERS RAHHH

[arctic talon]

An AC is prolly comparable to an Everest or something fresh out the box

[dusky scroll]

I assumed if he can power Astronomicon as a half dead, he can power it alive as well. At least then he can also order doordash.

[queen laurel]

i see

But against more experience and adventured Mechs

an ac is gonna crumple and get folded like an omelet

[opaque coyote]

Sorry he actually doesn't power it, whoopsie. He did during the great crusade, but now it's powered by the psykers that are sacrificed.

But he's the only one that can direct it

And also again

Terra becoming a new eye of terror would kinda

ruin the astronomicon

along with the solar system

...

[dusky scroll]

Huh! How is it powered then?

[arctic talon]

Psykers

Lots of normal psykers

[opaque coyote]

the 10,000 psykers

[dusky scroll]

Are they the ones that emperor eats or a separate bunch?

[arctic talon]

These ones don’t get eaten

[dusky scroll]

Wow! That's some new shit I learned.

[opaque coyote]

nope new ones

also about 100 die

per day

because it requires them to pour their energies

[dusky scroll]

Small price

What if we feed 20% more psyker to Emperor to give him a little.... sugar rush.

[arctic talon]

The number already fluctuates day to day

[dusky scroll]

does the power level of the psyker matter (the ones that get eaten)? Or, just being psyker is good enough?

[opaque coyote]

Basically, these Psykers are powerful enough to actually be kept around. The Chosen are usually sanctioned psykers, Space Marines Librarians, etc.

I think it's the shittier ones that get fed directly

[dusky scroll]

The logistics must be a nightmare! Finding them in planets, packing them up, shipping them, protect them in warp/space when traveling, unpacking and prepping them after arrival...

[opaque coyote]

And keep in mind, they do their record keeping in parchment

specifically vellum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vellum

The Administratum itself seems aware of the inefficiency of written record over more modern methods, but nonetheless does not change.

They also have wars over parchment

[hallow basin]

they do use dataslates, but the system is too big and unwieldy to use them on a more regular basis

[opaque coyote]

So you either have to

A) Go through an entire monolithic library to try and find/stuff in a specific piece of parchment

B) Go through an entire unorganized digital file system that has it somewhere shoved inbetween "Homework Folder 4932134" and "my cool drawing.png"

[hallow basin]

iirc dataslates can't store very much data on them, so it would be less about navigating the file structure and more about finding a dataslate in a sea of dataslates

[opaque coyote]

and knowing the imperium, the dataslates are probably all idk

fucking

iphones