#40k-lore-chat

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crystal forum
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bloat is gas

storm jungle
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fat is bloating

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bloating is fat

opaque coyote
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Increased infection

storm jungle
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next question

opaque coyote
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Decreased health

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Etc.

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So it's both fat and bloated

arctic talon
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@storm jungle did you give Heinrix a ptsd attack while romancing him

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Genuine question

opaque coyote
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Nurgle Maxxing

crystal forum
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do eldar have sharp teeth

opaque coyote
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No

crystal forum
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i thought they had big canines

arctic talon
opaque coyote
storm jungle
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💀

opaque coyote
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Ig

storm jungle
arctic talon
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Deldar don’t have that either

opaque coyote
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Yeah

crystal forum
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i think i saw art

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or maybe it was fart

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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anyways im done for the night

opaque coyote
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Or they're a furry

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Probably both

queen laurel
opaque coyote
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Furry artists generally add sharper teeth to even their non-furry art.

crystal forum
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you can spot a furry artist by how they draw human feet

crystal forum
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the leg structure is all wrong

opaque coyote
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As a side note, does anybody hate when eyes somehow go through hair in art?

crystal forum
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that's anime

opaque coyote
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Yeah

crystal forum
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you hate anime

opaque coyote
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....yes Jay

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I hate anime

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Ignore my pfp

crystal forum
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so cool

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i respect you now

bold veldt
opaque coyote
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Anyways, yeah idk why but I just don't like that particular quirk ig

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I mean I think it's fine if it's like

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A bit of the eye?

opaque coyote
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Idk what's the threshold though

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Lol

opaque coyote
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And flaming sword

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Fuck

arctic talon
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The meter would be the same

opaque coyote
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Nah gotta break it somehow

crystal forum
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do you think nurgle or slaanesh smells worse

arctic talon
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Slaanesh smells nice

queen laurel
arctic talon
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According to the silver knight story

arctic talon
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And other stuff

queen laurel
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Slannesh smells nice because she needs to

bold veldt
arctic talon
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Slaanesh smells bad in the perfume bomb sense

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Lol

opaque coyote
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Like

crystal forum
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i've seen slaanesh demons smelling like straight up musk so i guess it depends on what you're into

opaque coyote
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An extreme amount of axe body spray

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Type of smell

bold veldt
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depends on what you count as "bad"

arctic talon
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Slaanesh takes whatever form the person who sees them find most appealing

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Like explicitly

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That would extend to smell imo

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Slaanesh smells however you want them to

crystal forum
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so do nurgle demons love the smell of farts

arctic talon
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Or rather what you find most appealing

opaque coyote
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Like I think in the books, a Daemon made a portrait of Fulgrim using piss, shit, and as quoted "other bodily fluids"

arctic talon
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And rot

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Lol

crystal forum
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awesome

vagrant fox
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slaanesh smells like gasoline

arctic talon
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Lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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In any case slaanesh basically looks like your ideal person lol

crystal forum
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americans gas chambering themselves in their new cars

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i heard in china they hate the smell

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so dealers get rid of it

arctic talon
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I hate the smell of new cars

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Lol

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I don’t get how people stand it

crystal forum
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it's literally the smell of industrial solvents and glue vapors

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it's like sniffing glue

arctic talon
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Anyways Slaanesh is a funny chaos god

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Their form along with tzeentch

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Changes the most lol

bold veldt
arctic talon
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Nurgle pretty much always is

crystal forum
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im weirdly addicted to chlorine smell

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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A huge GUO

crystal forum
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idk why i love the smell of chlorinated pools

arctic talon
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And khorne is usually a terrifying dude on a throne

arctic talon
bold veldt
opaque coyote
crystal forum
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chlorine is not a plastic

opaque coyote
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And not like

On the ground

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Like sitting on the pile of skulls

bold veldt
opaque coyote
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Then again, I think Khorne represents more the Conquerer than

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The warrior

crystal forum
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is there truly a ground in the warp

opaque coyote
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He is Genghis, not the millions of soldiers actually doing the dirty work type of thing

arctic talon
arctic talon
bold veldt
arctic talon
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I mean

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In the chaos gods realms yes

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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There is ground

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In the rest of the warp fuck no lol

bold veldt
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A Thousand Sons literally just says its a giant ocean

arctic talon
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Make your own ground if you don’t melt first

bold veldt
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me not believe this

crystal forum
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i dont think chaos gods really have a form

arctic talon
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We know they do sort of

bold veldt
arctic talon
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Explicitly

crystal forum
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also abritor ian is WRONG

arctic talon
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Even if it’s odd

crystal forum
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they are totally fucking gods

opaque coyote
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Sea travel

arctic talon
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We literally see khornes arm

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Manifest in real space

bold veldt
arctic talon
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Before he smashes the funny beacon with his sword

crystal forum
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hell yeah

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manifest muscle

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the god of swole

opaque coyote
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Like

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It can turn into any weapon in history

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Including a gigantic gun cause why not

arctic talon
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Prolly

opaque coyote
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Skarbrand seeing Khorne pull out the Blunderbuss

queen laurel
opaque coyote
opaque coyote
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But that would be more appropriate for Slaanesh

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Considering well

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The race technically made her

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I mean Khorne did beat Khaine so I can imagine him absorbing enough of his essence to gain an Eldar feature

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Then again, he doesn't really have a solid feature other than

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Guy on throne in armor and weapon

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Idk

arctic talon
arctic talon
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Slaanesh and the concept of death are heavily intertwined now

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For the eldar

opaque coyote
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I can imagine Slaanesh taking on a lot of Eldar adjacent forms. Since she is technically their god of death

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...

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Even though they really don't want her as their god of death for a good fucking reason

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As for Tzeentch.

I can imagine them just

Changing colors and forms randomly. If you don't have your mind collapse or whatever. Every time you look away, and then look back, they've changed into something new

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Or just randomly keeping the same form, except they're colored a slightly different shade of blue this time

sacred ginkgo
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I think a direct manifestation of Tzeentch would have details change even while in your periphery if you weren't directly focused on them

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Having their form embody quantum uncertainty is a really neat idea

opaque coyote
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Tzeentch's sprite should just like

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change colors every dialogue box

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Form if they allow it but hey

sacred ginkgo
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I think a more interesting way to do it would be like 5 complete sprites for every pose

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and then cut them all up and stitch them together randomly

opaque coyote
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Oh yeah true

sacred ginkgo
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Would be really high effort because they would require like 5 times the work + coherent rigging

opaque coyote
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"You're so boring Khorne. Did anybody tell you that?"

"..."

"I mean I ain't telling you to change too much. That's my shtick. But at least change into something more comfortable at lea-"

otherworldly cackling in the background

"SHUT UP SLAANESH THIS ISN'T ABOUT YOU- anyways what was I talking about?"

"I hate you all."

late osprey
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i love this map

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i also quite like the implication that someone can come here via magic in Fantasy, walk into the Eye of Terror and just get spat out in the middle of deep space

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i bet you there's been at least one imperial navy ship that encountered a frozen Empire Spearman just drifting

storm jungle
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Thats an old thing.

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Theres not really any crossover at all between warhammer universes anymore thankfully.

late osprey
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the map itself pretty new relatively, at least

storm jungle
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New?

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thats like 4 editions old

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also from Fantasy

nocturne crest
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Is there anything old world had over 40k?

storm jungle
late osprey
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2014 is hardly some Lost and the Damned era property

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though i guess old and new is all relative

storm jungle
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10 years is very old

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sorry to say

nocturne crest
storm jungle
nocturne crest
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Middle age setting with magic and steam tanks.

storm jungle
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I mean yes

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its still middle ages

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the stuff you also mentioned isnt daily things

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lol

late osprey
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here's what its got: cooler characters

storm jungle
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Also no space marines.

nocturne crest
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Then AOS came along.

storm jungle
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For the better.

late osprey
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i was going to make that joke goddamn you

storm jungle
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literally get better material

late osprey
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but i resisted the urge

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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the Empire still lives in villages, hamlets, cities and stone/wood structures among other stuff

late osprey
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ultimately i dont really think whfb and aos are even that comparable, they're two dramatically different genres of fantasy

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but aos is definitely more fun as a game

arctic talon
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Yes

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Lol

opaque coyote
late osprey
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thats hardly clearing any high bars, of course

storm jungle
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Whf died because it was dogshit to play, so that checks out

arctic talon
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I also tried playing actual whfb again a few days ago

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It’s terrible

late osprey
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whfb at the end was actually hot dogtwater

arctic talon
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Old world genuinely is so much better lol

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Still has issues

queen laurel
late osprey
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aside from just random jank rules that completely ruin entire factions, its main offense was it was just very boring

nocturne crest
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So why do people want the skaven in 40k?

arctic talon
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But it’s not whfb gameplay wise

arctic talon
storm jungle
opaque coyote
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Btt then again I am much less familiar with Fantasy in general than 40k

arctic talon
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Except the skaven already got chopped up

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And split between several factions

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Mostly the imperium and orks

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No I’m not joking

queen laurel
opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Guard are basically just skaven slave spam

late osprey
arctic talon
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With skryre weapon teams

late osprey
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(real lore)

arctic talon
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LOL

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Also dnd isn’t low fantasy

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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DnD is like

late osprey
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yeah exactly

opaque coyote
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Dimmer souls

arctic talon
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At least not the stuff WOTC pushes

storm jungle
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the highest form of high fantasy

late osprey
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Forgotten Realms is high fantasy

arctic talon
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skaven literally do not have their own soul

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They all share souls

crystal forum
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where's my low fantasy

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and mid fantasy

late osprey
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Dark Sun is as low fantasy as it gets these days

arctic talon
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Low fantasy is a mostly dead genre

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T b h

opaque coyote
storm jungle
arctic talon
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People do not like it as much

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Yeah

storm jungle
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since like

crystal forum
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what even is low

storm jungle
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its literally medieval europe

crystal forum
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and high

storm jungle
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but with monsters

crystal forum
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ah

arctic talon
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How much magic

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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And weird shit

storm jungle
arctic talon
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Yeah

storm jungle
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High Fantasy is a lot more fantastic tropes everywhere

opaque coyote
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People like dying against Eldritch Horrors instead

arctic talon
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Also the games are def high fantasy

opaque coyote
late osprey
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well ok if we're talking about settings as properties

arctic talon
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Compared to the books lol

late osprey
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low fantasy is still very well alive

crystal forum
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im trying to think of low fantasy

nocturne crest
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What the hell is happening chat is shooting so fast?

arctic talon
storm jungle
late osprey
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in fact id even say Warhammer Fantasy as an IP is at least as popular as any given DnD setting

queen laurel
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@storm jungle Warhammer fantasy versus age of sigmar

arctic talon
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Warhammer fantasy isn’t even that low fantasy

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Is the thing

storm jungle
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DnD is way more supreme

late osprey
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Not DnD the game

crystal forum
storm jungle
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Also yeah like

late osprey
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i'm talking about the settings

storm jungle
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WHF is middle-tier fantasy id say

arctic talon
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Yeah

storm jungle
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it does have the image of "normal" fantasy

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but like, its very much not

arctic talon
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WIZARD BATTLE TIME

queen laurel
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tanks

arctic talon
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GELT VERSUS

opaque coyote
queen laurel
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they have ******* tanks

crystal forum
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i love how high fantasy swords always need to go extra

arctic talon
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I forgot his name

nocturne crest
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Lore of metal!

queen laurel
arctic talon
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The fire dude

storm jungle
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Its also entirely about presentation and its artstyle, if warhammer artists say worked on World of Warcraft it'd probably look as "grounded" and brutal like WHF.

arctic talon
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He beat

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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a setting artstyle does a lot

arctic talon
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Yeah

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Whfb’s art style fucked hard

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It doesn’t look very fantastical

late osprey
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also its hard to say to what extent Warhammer Fantasy the game actually represents the setting, but i believe in most cases we're seeing definite outlier circumstances

arctic talon
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If it’s empire vs chaos warriors

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Beyond the armor

storm jungle
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Adrian Smith, Kopinksy, Blanche etc

crystal forum
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realist mfers are really obnoxious and elitist. they act like everything should be historically accurate because that's just objectively superior to them

late osprey
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like how you might think the entire Imperium was filled with space marines from playing the video games

arctic talon
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Imo

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The college of magic is a thing

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Same with like Beastmen magically teleporting

late osprey
arctic talon
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Yeah

storm jungle
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well

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unless you live in Altdorf

arctic talon
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But the fact it’s a thing makes it high fantasy imo

storm jungle
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but yes lol

crystal forum
queen laurel
late osprey
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low and high are ever a gradient of the presence of magic essentially, in my opinion Warhammer is on the lower end; the College is this one singular body that isn't particularly pervasive

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compared with like

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DnD

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where everyone and their grandma has an order of wizards

storm jungle
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Warhammer is middle tier

late osprey
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or Forgotten Realms in this case

storm jungle
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it has too many high-fantasy elements to be low-tier

crystal forum
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warhammer is mid
-dilara

queen laurel
late osprey
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well

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what IS low fantasy

arctic talon
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Almost no magic

nocturne crest
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That is pretty cool art.

late osprey
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no i mean like

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an example setting

arctic talon
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Weird fantastical creatures are fine

arctic talon
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Imo

queen laurel
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Yeah literally the Witcher

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not outlandish armor

arctic talon
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Where Geralt gets fucking shanked by a pitchfork and lynched

queen laurel
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Weird creatures

arctic talon
queen laurel
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no ******* magic in that one too almost

late osprey
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dont those get pretty out there though, with the lodges of magicians and elf queens

arctic talon
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It’s absurdly rare

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So I’d say no personally

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But you could argue it’s existence means it’s not low fantasy

crystal forum
queen laurel
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In the games?

storm jungle
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90% of the setting is just...

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well europe lol

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Most fantasy creatures are not that common

queen laurel
storm jungle
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or are just outcasted or simply got a more realistic style

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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To use magic

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So technically?

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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High

storm jungle
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its too fantastical

queen laurel
storm jungle
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its not a hard distinction to make

arctic talon
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I’m not sure about the games

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I forgor

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Lol

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Also yeah dark souls is absolutely high fantasy

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With how many fucking college of mages there have been

queen laurel
arctic talon
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And how the world literally runs on magic

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Lol

opaque coyote
# storm jungle its too fantastical

True.

Thought it would be middle for a second cause a good half of the armor is actually form fitting.

But then I remember Hollows casually existing and I was like

"Yeah nah High"

queen laurel
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what do you think

arctic talon
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Armor doesn’t matter

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Aesthetics don’t even matter that much imo

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You can have absurd looking armor in low fantasy

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Even if it’s fucking stupid

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That’s my take at least

storm jungle
queen laurel
opaque coyote
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The other half is fantastical armor

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And I was like

"Does it count as middle fantasy because of that...? Nah."

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Monster hunter is low fantasy because magic isn’t a thing/j

queen laurel
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Just off of that alone that's already high fantasy

sacred ginkgo
late osprey
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LoTR is sort of the definitive low fantasy, to the point that its questionable if magic even exists at all outside of the maiar+

arctic talon
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Honestly low/mid/high fantasy as terms

sacred ginkgo
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Low fantasy is impossible
Middle is bloodline/ancient knowledge exclusive
High is a trade school

arctic talon
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All kind of suck

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But it’s like

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Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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What’s the alternative

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Lol

storm jungle
late osprey
queen laurel
arctic talon
late osprey
storm jungle
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which is so weird to me and Ive always ignored it lol

late osprey
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which is an important distinction for the especially pedantic as those manifestations technically are miracles

opaque coyote
# queen laurel yeah but like even then have you seen the shit you fight?

Yeah true

Although I find it funny in terms of progression. Because like

Dark Souls 1 was fairly grounded in terms of size. Like most weapons actually have ""realistic"" sizes. With exceptions like Smough's hammer requiring a fuck ton of strength.

Then Dark Souls 2 decided to make everything bigger and then it progressed from there.

Just a disclaimer, I don't hate this or anything. Just a interesting and funny observation.

late osprey
storm jungle
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Just leave the setting as is.

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its like saying WHF ends up turning into the real world

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Actually nevermind

opaque coyote
late osprey
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eye of the beholder, but it does come from an era where "true fantasy" in the sense that its totally disconnected from reality

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was virtually unheard of

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see narnia and all the other "otherworld" style fantasies

queen laurel
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what did GW mean by this

opaque coyote
storm jungle
opaque coyote
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And fighting dragons

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There we go

crystal forum
opaque coyote
crystal forum
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literally fuck off

storm jungle
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when Araby is there?

opaque coyote
late osprey
opaque coyote
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Destroyed to shit via earthquakes and then probably burnt to the ground because we decided to buy a lot of trees from Australia that one time

crystal forum
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where tf is india

storm jungle
storm jungle
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its just named Ind

opaque coyote
crystal forum
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original

storm jungle
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its covered by the map chart

opaque coyote
storm jungle
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hold on

arctic talon
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Nippon

crystal forum
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im glad that the balklands are the badlands

storm jungle
crystal forum
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and eastern russia is just wastes

storm jungle
opaque coyote
late osprey
crystal forum
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heheheh nippon

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nipple

storm jungle
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perish

storm jungle
opaque coyote
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Generally I think most likely High Fantasy better

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Although low fantasy definitely has a crowd

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Like Milsims

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I still have no idea why people find Arma 3 fun

late osprey
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i dont know, people loved GoT so much they started acting like everything else was childish

opaque coyote
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Like ATP just join the fucking military at that rate

late osprey
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"Not your grandma's fantasy. 😎 "

crystal forum
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you dont get medical issues in arma

late osprey
opaque coyote
late osprey
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that being said

arctic talon
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How GW felt writing WHFB Nippon lore

late osprey
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SQUAD

late osprey
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is awesome

arctic talon
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Fuck it didn’t post properly

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Whatever

crystal forum
late osprey
opaque coyote
# late osprey SQUAD

I tried it for a bit and I do want to buy it to try it out for longer.

How many people actually play

crystal forum
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also racist

late osprey
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but the modern one is like

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10 full lobbies at any given time

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"modern one"

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vanilla.

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i mean vanilla squad

opaque coyote
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...I almost said fucking normies but realized that part of my soul would die if I said that without any irony

arctic talon
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How do you think the sculptor who did the pygmies feels

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You know

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The original whfb ones

late osprey
arctic talon
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Probably for the best

late osprey
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also i like how instead of just updating Araby and making it less of a caricature

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they just go "oh yeah the Bretonnians exterminated them all teehee"

opaque coyote
late osprey
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like thats not utterly horrible

opaque coyote
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Give me a sec

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...

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Okay wow

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Didn't expect that

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Much

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Uh

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How did this get past censors

late osprey
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the 80s censors??

arctic talon
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They might also have sold like shit

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And that’s why they got discontinued

opaque coyote
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Like my god that is something I would see in like

A drawing from the 1940s

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Good question

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Lol

tough haven
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@arctic talon your fusion pistol build for harlequins wont work since at max you can get 2 fusion pistols

arctic talon
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2 is all you need

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A fusion pistol is a melta in a trench coat

tough haven
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cause I could start with ranged with the death jester

summer mural
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is that skarbrand with a gun

median star
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wheres the gun

summer mural
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is that actually one of his axes in his right hand

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doesnt seem like an axe

opaque coyote
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Though tbf he is holding them

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Weirdly

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Like he's holding them like he's a 3 year old with a toy axe tbh

summer mural
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hes holding it like a gun lmao

opaque coyote
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Yeah generally holding near the blade is unadvisable

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Both for health

And also for actually being effective

summer mural
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maybe his axe shoots those needles on the edge or something

opaque coyote
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Either that or Skarbrand has no idea how to hold an axe

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But nobody corrected him due to how good he is despite of his

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Weird handling

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Khorne shivers at the thought of him understanding the idea of

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leverage

opaque coyote
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Miku becomes victims of the night lords

rocky gale
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Doctor who reference

queen laurel
rocky gale
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Imagine seeing that on tv aged 6

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“The last human”

queen laurel
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right now

raven stone
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Oh I remember that.
Thankfully I was in mu adult years when thay became a thing.

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Morning chat

plush mason
raven stone
plush mason
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no i mean the actual death of the last human

raven stone
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Oh right

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Humanity had gone out a couple of different ways in New Who, none of which are pleasant.

plush mason
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yup

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you really got to see the Doctor's merciless side

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in many episodes

raven stone
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The Doctor is probably the only one that can (tying this to 40k) give the Drukhari actual nightmares second to (or even above) Slaanesh

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If The Doctor is sufficiently pissed enough

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Even outside of Ten's run some of that ruthlessness remains

plush mason
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"demons run when a good man goes to war"

raven stone
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Indeed they do

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I would even go as far as to say The Doctor could actually be smart, cunning and ruthless enough to collapse The Imperium in any sort of hypothetical situation where there is cause to do so.

dapper gyro
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I don't know about the last 2 seasons, but the 9 to 13 are vulnerable, but also the most batshit crazy.

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Despite being a mortal (until retcon later) the Doctor is literally the myth and legend across time and space.

plush mason
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that one family of aliens that chased the Doctor looking for immortality got what they wanted in the worst way possible, each of them immortal but trapped in an endless hell

dapper gyro
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Oh, one is in the mirror world.

plush mason
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yup

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can never be seen if looked directly at

raven stone
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Old Who focuses on The Doctor being a bit of a classic British Gentlemen albeit in an unorthodox manner.

New Who focuses on The Doctor being a survivor who is...as ruthless as he is hurt, adventurous and helpful.

dapper gyro
#

And the other becomes a scarecrow forever standing in 1 place.

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Mummified, but can't die.

plush mason
#

yup

raven stone
#

...I still find it sad the peak period ended after Capaldi's run.

Jodie acts well and I don't whine about supposed messaging but even then - the writing was all over the place.

plush mason
dapper gyro
#

Lets be real, the Doctor is so strong because he is immune to knife attack, so the uk can't do shit against him.

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Automatically gets the legendary immortal status.

raven stone
#

Ncuti...Again, writing issues and writers being far too blunt with things.

dapper gyro
#

I like how they connect the storyline of 1-8 and 9-12*.

raven stone
#

They have done good work with the story continuity...up until that one debacle in Jodie's run.

Look, the Timeless Child could have been a random other child and the entire plot would have worked (or be better even)

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But saying The Doctor IS the Timeless Child? Yea...I find that iffy.

dapper gyro
#

A being near God hood but driven by traumatic experience by trying to live and blend in with normal beings.

plush mason
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i stopped watching after the 11th

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or 12th cant really remember

dapper gyro
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Correction 12th*

raven stone
#

Jodie's run was...betrayed by the script. Which is sad because I liked the idea of Jodie being The Doctor for once.

But as said, bad writing. Then they tanked their own hard, well earned continuity work with Timeless Child.

plush mason
#

yeah it was the 11th

dapper gyro
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12* has the episode where he is stuck in a loop millions of times, has to break a diamond wall with his own hand.

raven stone
#

Capaldi's run was kind of being carried by him already, I felt.

Oh I remember that, it felt inspired by escape room games

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It was like that but on max hard mode.

dapper gyro
#

Then it turned out, it is set up by himself as a way to keep himself in check.

raven stone
#

"How long is eternity?"

dapper gyro
#

Days of the doctor was an interesting bridge to connect the old and new doctors.

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However, the fact that he is only 200 something years old since the War Doctor makes me feel eh... It is too little.

nocturne crest
raven stone
dapper gyro
#

The episode serves as the origin story of the master, so good.

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However... The 1st thing he did after regaining his power was to become a politician, the worst kind of monster.

summer mural
#

I wonder if the darktide items in rogue trader are any good

remote widget
#

Wives of the emperor is an old term for SoB or does that predate them?

rocky gale
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I think they were originally daughters of the emperor, then when Vandire took them they became Brides of the Emperor

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May be mixing those two up though

vagrant fox
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99.9% of them have more important things to do, like killing things

storm jungle
#

the new codexes (8th and 9th) also removed the more gross mentions of them serving Vandire's "needs" as well which is funny lol

median star
#

so is darktide the first time assails existed in lore i mean of course anyone at one point shouldve been able to do it but is this just the first time its been represented or shown to be a thing

storm jungle
#

They existed in the Dark Heresy RPG, it isnt a new thing.

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Also psyker powers in 40k are literally "whatever the writers want at the time" so yeah.

median star
#

would a more powefull psyker be able to cast the same but able to pierce carapace or ceramite i presume

tall plinth
#

Okay

celest dome
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In theory yes

tall plinth
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So

storm jungle
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2x

tall plinth
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Lemme get this straight

median star
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has it been written yet

storm jungle
#

Probably.

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Next question.

celest dome
#

Spiteshard/Assail not that I remember of.
Kinetic Knives I think it has

queen laurel
storm jungle
tall plinth
#

I forgor what I was gonna get straight 💀

storm jungle
#

Alright see you later

raven stone
#

Interesting thing I came across

dapper gyro
#

Assail is just picking up random object and throw it with psychic power.

storm jungle
dapper gyro
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Say, Stone bullet from some RPG game is the same stuff.

raven stone
#

Which is why I found it a good watch

storm jungle
#

and you still got morons like this lol

raven stone
#

True XD

queen laurel
#

so what does fighting things have to do with it

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like even without things to fight it's still a rotting empire

dapper gyro
#

People don't even understand the word satire, let alone the satire itself.

raven stone
#

Or they have a poor opinion of satire if they feel something has to be defended from having the label applied to it

storm jungle
#

Helldivers has been the greatest example of that honestly

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you can be as in your face as possible with the satire and people will just deny and not get it lol

dapper gyro
#

Many takes over the top aspect as "satire", even though many of it are not and it is more of a dick measuring contest.

queen laurel
celest dome
queen laurel
#

they released a gas weapon expansion

dapper gyro
#

Because they want to part of the more OP enthusiastic, as a sign of "strong"... Ex: Surface level Marines slaves.

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They will lick Marines the cog piece all day to say they are better.

storm jungle
queen laurel
dapper gyro
#

I'm glade that military here are against Punisher. We find those people to be hypocritical.

vagrant fox
#

The Imperium having legitimate enemies excuses fascism 🤓

celest dome
dapper gyro
#

There were some "thin line" knife series from Spyderco, a very reputed knife manufactory, the "thin blue line" in Canada are still in stock since 2015...

raven stone
#

The idea that Punisher can be judge, jury, executioner against criminals in the US (who can be ruthless) most certainly contributed to the misuse of the symbol

dapper gyro
#

The red and yellow are sold out years ago.

raven stone
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Especially when people imagine criminality is on the rise. Or maybe it is, who knows.

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I don’t live in US :p

dapper gyro
#

So many crazies even look forward for "crime" so they can be hero, which killed so many innocent people.

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If they are asked to do actual heroic job like fireman or EMT, they can't, it is just too difficult for them. Getting a gun and pull the trigger is so much simpler.

raven stone
#

Considering the sheer number of police related incidents in the US, my only conclusion is that the US police are actually afraid of death/to die.

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Which is why they so often shoot first.

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I would just say that as a general rule of thumb, when you sign up to be a policeman, you really, really ought to have death in line of duty as a possible outcome already.

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You don’t get to always shoot first and win to be a hero.

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But that is what a lot of US officers seem to be stuck on.

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(As for myself - if I were to drop dead right now, I can only hope it is instant.)

dapper gyro
#

What with uphold the law and protect the population when you are too scared for your own good?

raven stone
# dapper gyro If they are, then they are not fit to be a public servant.

Most officers who shoot first are probably not fit.
But again, it is a concept most people don’t get…or they think they do, but ultimately when pushed in extreme circumstances, they fall apart and end up shooting first even if (out of action) they logically know they should not shoot first.

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I will stay my hand a wee bit, and confess stress does funny things to people’s decision making.

dapper gyro
#

The action without consequence is a bigger issue than the "fear for my life" excuse.

raven stone
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Oh I am not disputing that

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But just stating the why, per se.

dapper gyro
#

Because they can do stupid shit, and just use an otherwise valid excuse for their unhinge behaviour.

raven stone
#

The consequences, or lack thereof, is technically a different conversation in the sense of how harsh accountability should be, which in itself is an even messier and more distorted can of worms

dapper gyro
raven stone
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Due to how most US people will do a 180 degree and sympathise with the police a bit more when the victim has dubious backgrounds and whatnot.
(…and I am not even going to touch the whole racial distortion issue just due to how insanely bad it is)

storm jungle
#

Bernthal never struck me as that type, hes also openly supportive of queer people too, also literally kills crooked cops in the new show KEKW_ogryn

raven stone
dapper gyro
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There are armed police in Europe, but you rarely hear of shooting incident.

raven stone
#

Well ok maybe not different, but most certainly difficult.

dapper gyro
#

Because if the police does, they face big responsibility, and they have to consider their action.

raven stone
dapper gyro
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Paris has fking police and military patrol with machineguns...

raven stone
#

So it goes back to what I say.
US police has to not be afraid of the concept of dying on duty and “losing” a life to armed criminals.

dapper gyro
#

And people still protest and burn the city, yet we don't hear much of police shooting anyone.

raven stone
#

Like I mean I understand and know police wrongly shooting an individual or individuals, but at protests?

dapper gyro
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No, Im not saying that. Im saying that even in extreme case, heavily armed police don't over step their power.

raven stone
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Ok, we are on the same page. It does go back to what I am pointing out. US police overstep their authority out of fear of death, and then because everyone in the PD are usually afraid of death, they end up defending each other.

tough haven
storm jungle
# tough haven

That excerpt has been shown to some people then they call THAT "woke" somehow KEKW_ogryn

raven stone
#

Then you get some US citizens who either have suffered, or fears, the criminality violence, and they too would rather Police go overkill than miss anything.

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TLDR the fear of death makes fools out of the entire US population.

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When it comes to the matter of police violence.

tough haven
storm jungle
#

a girl's dad gets murdered by cops for walking from a trial as a freeman and what she says always stuck with me

tough haven
storm jungle
#

"Hes Hector Alvarez from the Heights and they are the fucking cops."

storm jungle
#

S3 especially is legendary

tough haven
#

I’ve got too many shows to finish bro

storm jungle
#

better step up

tough haven
#

I still gotta finish invincible

raven stone
# tough haven Also In the US even if they do over step, they rarely face censure more severe t...

The usual line I see arguing for this is “why should police suffer for doing their duty to defend society from criminals”, which to me is basically “well, look, if they shot the wrong person they aren’t doing the job right.”

But. To tie it back to my point about the fear of death (and, to a lesser extent, fear of armed criminals), when I did point that out, for once I got a response that was not yelling, and actually said…

“…Well, that mistake is a necessary sacrifice to pay.” [Or words to that effect.]

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[and surprisingly civil.]

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So yea.

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Fear of death by criminality is making the entire US population fools.

storm jungle
#

Also the problem with U.S law enforcement is not that complex

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It always comes from a place of want to abuse authority, prejudice or hate.

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Its thoroughly documented unfortunately 💀

dapper gyro
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In short, they lack of bravery and calm in highly stressful situation? So, cowards?

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That's not the kind of things I want in a police organisation.

raven stone
#

I won’t dispute any of the above, though I would wonder if I am able to maintain such high standards if I were to be given the correct training and then thrown into the situation.

dapper gyro
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If the military are like that, especially the "almost no consequence", friendly fire and collateral damage would be off the roof.

raven stone
#

Obviously that also implies Police should be trained to military psychological standards, but bringing that up is probably gonna be taboo for a lot of other reasons.

dapper gyro
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It is not even high standard when so many other place in the world can do it.

raven stone
# storm jungle

TBH this works better as an Inquisition quote. GW should have made the quote about making an arrest for wasting a ration bae by declaring it “not delicious” or something.

raven stone
#

I mean you might want to look at Switzerland though.

storm jungle
raven stone
#

That probably is the closest equivalent of how things should be.

queen laurel
# storm jungle

the fact that we're getting someone from this organization as a companion is crazy

raven stone
queen laurel
#

in rt

raven stone
# queen laurel in rt

In all honesty I expect Owlcat to make it so you can make him lean Iconoclast, much like how you can make Heinrix a radical Inquisitor ||or even just ditch the Inquisition and join as your master of whispers if you are a female RT romancing him||

median star
#

i was on i think ok term with him by end game || even the the he still left in the ending and it said he went to go meet some other inquisitor i think and then was never seen or heard from again ||

raven stone
#

Dumb Grimdark/Grimderp question.

…do Orks actually eat humans?
For some reason I have an impression it is implied they do but I can’t think of where I might have gotten that idea…

(Maybe it’s one of those War of The Beast novels?)

sacred bluff
outer wave
outer wave
#

I think there was also a novel that implied orks keep imprisoned humans around as cattle

queen laurel
#

humans are meat

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they love that stuff

queen laurel
raven stone
#

Ok thanks for clearing that up.
I am aware Orks take human slaves but since GW has left it to fans to decide what is done in said slavery…(probably for the better but still a lore gap)
Now I know it is probably as forced Labour and food supply (depending on Waaghboss preference)

rose thorn
#

@queen laurel THEY BUFFED HOBGROT SLITTA BOSS AGAIN

queen laurel
#

what about ironjawz

rose thorn
#

It’s terrible don’t bring it

rose thorn
tough haven
storm jungle
#

they beat them up, they kill them or just simply like watching them suffer or use them for food, thats it really

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the amount of awful shit they'd do them depends on the slavers lol

queen laurel
raven stone
#

Not exactly the usual critique, but also not the usual defence

median star
#

have orks ever been known to ransom their slaves

queen laurel
median star
#

yea

queen laurel
#

a smarter ork can definitely do that

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It's just that well

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they're orks

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their existence is already kind of a compelling argument of them taking what you have

outer wave
#

They don't get much from giving back humans

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Like they can't ask for money because their money is teef

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Aquilias or whatever wouldn't cut it

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Weapons, they got their own weapons and ones much more suited for their needs

queen laurel
#

and again

#

if theu wanted something from you

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they will take it by force

outer wave
#

Only exception could be Blood Axes and even then, they'd probably trade for something more substantial

queen laurel
outer wave
#

Mhmmm

tough haven
outer wave
#

They could get religion!

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Or more organization anyway

winter vessel
# tough haven

Imagine seeing an Ork wearing Pastor Vestments preaching to a WAAAAGGHHH on a pulpit.

crystal forum
#

in the valley of shadows

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we waaaaaaghhh

tough haven
#

Jesus' ressurection isnt a big deal to them, cause orks get brought back to life all the time by mad doks

raven stone
nocturne crest
#

So apart from killing and eating Humans, what else can orks do with them?

dapper gyro
#

Slave

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Livestock?

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

Does anyone in 40K not use slaves?

crystal forum
#

orks would read the old testament and go hell yeah

queen laurel
#

and entertainment

near wasp
queen laurel
#

Some orcs would keep around humans as pets

crystal forum
#

they would respect the shit out of the god of hellfire

queen laurel
near wasp
#

Tyranids maybe depending on your definition of slave

crystal forum
#

if you want to argue about definitions then are votaan not slaves to their system

near wasp
#

No because they have rights

crystal forum
#

slaves can have rights

queen laurel
#

hell they have literal actual functioning AI robots

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and they treat them like they are living beings

#

they would even go out of their way to rescue one

#

These guys fully realized that making a fully sapient AI means you need to treat it as a living person

crystal forum
#

aren't leagues super against free will

queen laurel
crystal forum
#

i thought they all had to respect their kin values or something

queen laurel
#

i would say that their leadership is pretty free and basice

queen laurel
near wasp
#

Respecting somebodys culture and trade isn't slavery

crystal forum
#

they're clones

near wasp
#

And?

queen laurel
#

Does this scream slavery

#

Just like in warhammer fantasy dwarves , kin and family are important

celest dome
#

I bet Kin have on average more freedom than human in the Imperium

arctic talon
celest dome
#

For Tyr, could it not be considered that Genestealer cultists could be considered Kins, as for the GSC, they have the people infected that are reprogrammed to help them against their wills

arctic talon
#

yeah you could count that against them

#

but LoV, CWE and Tau(excluding prisoners) don't use slaves

queen laurel
#

Gsc

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Are literally tyranid slaves

tough haven
#

Exodites don’t use slaves

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Drukhari don’t use slaves either, they use playthings

#

There’s a difference

arctic talon
#

Drukhari do use slaves

#

beyond just the usual "pet" comments about their slaves

#

they use other drukhari as slaves lol

tough haven
#

I was just making a joke lol

#

It would be notable if a drukhari didn’t use slaves

sudden compass
#

Think we'll ever get that captain guy's armor for Vet?

#

I like that Judge Dredd looking armor and the headdress

dapper gyro
#

Zealot maybe

sudden compass
#

Fuckin zealot? Why them?

arctic talon
dapper gyro
#

Because they are all zealous.

near wasp
#

Stand and die protocole enagaged

spare osprey
#

Yeah I mean we have palatine enforcer armor don’t we? I could see arbites eventually

dapper gyro
#

Vet personalities and overall in universe are much more open minded.

arctic talon
#

Arbite set would be fun

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But it would also prolly be a “premium” set

#

Or whatever they’re called

#

I don’t buy skins in this game

spare osprey
#

Real

arctic talon
#

Actually that’s a lie

#

I bought the incense rebreather for zealot

dapper gyro
#

You feed the shark...

sudden compass
arctic talon
#

Lol

storm jungle
spare osprey
storm jungle
#

ITS A FUCKING SHOVEL

dapper gyro
#

Of everything, a shovel...

#

I can see the Krieg lickers all over Rogue Trader...

outer wave
#

Should've been a tiny Ogryn pet

summer mural
#

is the shovel super good though

arctic talon
#

It’s good in act 1

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Falls off a cliff in act 2 onwards

summer mural
#

the heretek missions in mechanicus are insane

#

I dunno why they say easy lmao

#

also, the infiltrator aint that good

#

vanguards are pretty good though

opaque coyote
#

Darktide X Rogue Trader??

arctic talon
#

The difficulty is wrong on all of the heretek missions

summer mural
#

oh good

#

I thought I was doing something wrong

#

because im doing fine on the non heretek missions

#

but the first heretek mission like..

#

its a murder

arctic talon
#

Yeah no the Heretek missions are for omega nerds like me who optimize the shit out of a run

#

Or for mid game

celest dome
#

I quite disliked the veiled enemies in that one

summer mural
#

yeah ive been abusing invisibility

#

and now the ai is doing it

celest dome
#

Was quite annoying to have to wait for them to attack to be able to return fire

summer mural
#

also do you like run with 6 techpriests

#

or do you do like 3 and then troops

celest dome
#

2 or 3 iirc, but one was always the Summoner type, then 1 full melee, and 1 flex

arctic talon
#

3-4 is usually what I do

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1 to abuse discounts and recast canticles

#

1 to summon thing

summer mural
#

Im doing full melee explorator, full ranged dominus and one hybrid lexmechanic rn

arctic talon
#

2 killy

summer mural
#

the melee guy is pretty crazy, they can basically walk the whole map in one turn

celest dome
#

Being able to slap a Sniper Necron is so fun

#

Wonder when M2 will have new info

arctic talon
#

Skulls

#

Imo

summer mural
#

still havent checked out m2 tbh

celest dome
#

make sense

summer mural
#

is the setting revealed

#

is it techpriests vs necrons again

celest dome
#

Yes

#

But you also have a Necron campaign

summer mural
#

oh nice

#

i gotta check out trailer sometime

celest dome
#

The monologue is mirrored of the 1st game one

arctic talon
#

It’s just a cinematic

#

Tbh I hope the ending isn’t a total everyone dies on the other side one

#

Lol

summer mural
#

the first games monologue is really memorable

arctic talon
#

Also surprisingly not playing as a necron overlord

#

Lol

celest dome
#

Wait we know that the Necron's will be ?

summer mural
#

" From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it DISGUSTED me"

celest dome
#

Necon Overlord being the mirror of Faustinius would make sense

#

And Tech Priest being // Cryptek

arctic talon
celest dome
#

Like the Bodyguards ?

arctic talon
celest dome
#

Oh ok so you're not sending Vargards around

#

And it won't be mirrored in systems

#

Intriguing

arctic talon
#

I mean you might

#

She could be the lead vargard

#

We see Videx on the field

#

In one of the screenshots

summer mural
#

videx is my favourite so far

#

hes got endless quotes lol

#

someone really put their back into writing his dialogue

nocturne jetty
#

Eldritch magic storm is so fun to use

opaque coyote
#

ello gits

dapper gyro
#

90s UK hooligan

late osprey
#

oh the campaign has me destroy all of chaos and eldar forever?

#

dropped

arctic talon
#

Have some grimdark pig lore

#

‘’Of course, few living humans had ever laid eyes on a porcine. Unless they worked on an agri world, they would never have encountered one of those bloated and obese sacks of stimm-injected muscle and sinew, too colossal to walk without breaking their spindly legs and force-fed high-nutrient chem-soup to keep them growing in the pens. They would never have come across a bovine, either, unless you counted the thready strands of protein-extract pumped into their ration-trays during sanctioned rest-breaks. Such things were legends, in much the same category as relics of the Saints, the Angels of Death or Manifest Acts of the Emperor – things that definitely existed, but were unlikely ever to be encountered.’’

green loom
sly ivy
#

I have seen across the veil

#

I have witnessed the dead

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

Very interesting.

crystal forum
#

did you guys see the new gerox mini

nocturne crest
#

I haven't.

crystal forum
nocturne crest
#

Where can I see it?

crystal forum
#

fooooool

nocturne crest
#

I can't find it.

crystal forum
#

you fool

#

you have fallen for a jape

#

there is no gerox

languid meadow
#

I have foreseen a Grey Knight refresh then a Custodes one

storm jungle
dapper gyro
#

You can replace Tamriel and The imperium and it still makes the meme.

late osprey
#

wwhich may or may not be true

median star
#

do we know what this says or is their an alphabet for the letters its above every door on the backwall of the morningstar