40k-lore-chat

[bold veldt]

aquila bird

[queen laurel]

nah these are just familliars by like

imperial agents

[bold veldt]

aquila bird

[queen laurel]

that's a Psyber-Eagle

[bold veldt]

aquila berd

[vapid quartz]

Love the skaven 🐀

[storm jungle]

Its an animal

[bold veldt]

aquila berd

[storm jungle]

No its a psyber-eagle.

[queen laurel]

you say that again i will give you to night lords

[bold veldt]

aquilan avian

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

You refer to it on any other name besides psyber-eagle you will be turned into a chaos spawn

[bold veldt]

its what it is

[queen laurel]

oh yeah dilara what familiar are you planning to get

I'm getting the dog

[storm jungle]

Definitely dog

[queen laurel]

🤝

[tough haven]

Necrons finding out the phaeron of their most hated dynasty died while in stasis:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452219191580295168/1365383127215767702/VID_20250312_001911.mp4?ex=680d1ba1&is=680bca21&hm=a906b8000e23384e112d5d872956a9be5cebc0eb59bc132bfcacc7374beee9e7&

[storm jungle]

A surprise to be sure

but a welcron one

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195404877688602624/1365394912257900625/Screenshot_2025-04-25-13-58-57-63_1c337646f29875672b5a61192b9010f9.jpg?ex=680d269a&is=680bd51a&hm=538bb90b8992c65a2c0b1534c1be1563db4c8a8714799c350be117bdf4829b6c&

This is a good head lol

Gj gw

[queen laurel]

That's what she said?

[storm jungle]

Me being forced to watch a Luetin vid at 5000% volume

[shadow plover]

all the new bare EC heads are sooo goood

[summer mural]

absolutely horrendous. MODS!

[storm jungle]

got your ass

🫵

[shadow plover]

oi

[summer mural]

lmao

[storm jungle]

you leave all those cat_eyebrowraise reacts on me, you had it coming

[summer mural]

I actually was watching one before falling asleep, and he had like a nice atmospheric loudish background tune playing, im pretty sure it gave me like nightmares

[storm jungle]

LMAO

I do love how he pats himself on the back along with his fandom on his vids putting people to sleep

i guess its an achievement

[shadow plover]

it's the soothing voice

[spare osprey]

There’s another where he’s like

Licking his blade

It’s an awesome kit

[queen laurel]

hey at least he's being honest

he knows his videos can put someone to sleep so he may as well admit to it

[summer mural]

its also like how serious the videos are, every single vid begins with slow crawling " In the grim darkness blah blah blah...

that being said, hes got nice details

and the music is creepy and so are the images

which is nice

[arctic talon]

Tbf he is just using official art mostly

Most 40k official art looks a little creepy

[summer mural]

true true

especially the cathedral art

[storm jungle]

You mean to tell me 40k ISNT filled with white supermodel women?

[storm jungle]

Which one

[arctic talon]

Idk Minka Lesk is hot

[summer mural]

that one phoenix lord is hot

janna?

jax?

jayne?

[storm jungle]

Bruh

Jain Zar

you uncultured fuck

[summer mural]

yeah her

[arctic talon]

We don’t even know what her face looks like

[storm jungle]

"jax"

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

💀

[arctic talon]

Actually we don’t even know who her current host is do we

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/berleezy-iberleezy-belin-edmond-she-kinda-bad-she-kinda-bad-tho-gif-19486304

Drifty ^

[arctic talon]

It could be a male bodyunder the armor

Lol

I don’t think Phoenix lords change the body

[summer mural]

also that other phoenix lord is hot too, the guy for the death clowns with the long guns

[arctic talon]

That’s

Not what he’s the Phoenix lord of

[summer mural]

oh right

[arctic talon]

Maugen Ra is for the skeleton eldar aspect shrine lol

Dark reapers

[summer mural]

you know

I think I need to drink less

[queen laurel]

i will say Lelith Hesperax but she probably shanks people that compliment her

[storm jungle]

She does

shes also into women

men less so

[queen laurel]

hey there's a reason brooks gave her a girlfriend

[arctic talon]

She’s also into murdering lessers

Lol

Which is everyone

Because her ego is huge/hj

[storm jungle]

"I hate breeders."

that book is so dogshit

LMAO

I love how she shows up at that arena solely because the author was like

"Uhhh gladiator character"

[arctic talon]

It’s not even that bad

By brooks standards

Which is the worst part

[arctic talon]

Literally couldn’t even have come up with an excuse lol

There’s like

Multiple I can think up of off the top of my head

[storm jungle]

Also she just kills some Sharks and leaves too LMAO

like

okay???

Thanks for appearing I guess???

💀

WHAT IS THIS BOOK

[arctic talon]

Idk

It exists

[queen laurel]

are you talking about the brooks book? or

[arctic talon]

Leilith hates pregnant women confirmed

[queen laurel]

Completely different

[storm jungle]

the Silent Hunters space sharks one where they go to commorragh

its abysmally bad

[arctic talon]

Oh wait

Wrong book

[storm jungle]

space marines following the lead of an autistic child with his mom who can see "hidden doors"

[queen laurel]

oof

[arctic talon]

Where leilith shows up p

My bad

[storm jungle]

also uh

the entire crew dies

[arctic talon]

I was about to say

[storm jungle]

and the mcguffin they are hunting goes nowhere

wow

original

[arctic talon]

I don’t think leilith kills any sharks

[queen laurel]

Ah yes autism

[arctic talon]

In her new book lol

[queen laurel]

the greatest weapon against the evils of the universe

[arctic talon]

Why did you have to bring this book up to me

I’m almost done scrubbing it from my memory

[storm jungle]

kekekek

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

I legit hope

that author gets fired

[summer mural]

the hell??

[storm jungle]

his kasrkin book was even worse

[storm jungle]

its BAD

[summer mural]

I had to read that sentence like three times

at least leave the mom at home tbh

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[arctic talon]

No

[summer mural]

if you left the mom at home, its basically space marines and the emperor

[arctic talon]

LOL

[tall plinth]

So lemme get this straight

[storm jungle]

No.

[tall plinth]

Aight

[storm jungle]

⬅️

Take this left instead

[arctic talon]

I’m listening

[tall plinth]

So the T’au are relatively technologically advanced correct?

[arctic talon]

Yes

In terms of wide spread stuff

[tall plinth]

Okay

[storm jungle]

Oh you were gonna ask an actual question whoops

[summer mural]

yeah ik I ask some questions, but that was anticlimactic af

[arctic talon]

You think we’re a bunch of animals here don’t you

Smh

[outer wave]

How bad?

[storm jungle]

You buy a book to read about kasrkin

Its nothing but them fucking around in a empty desert with basically a plot ripped off from dune

They go to a random necron tomb

Everyone dies

the end

[outer wave]

Oh.

Oh that's bad

[storm jungle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShaskaisWarhamBits/comments/yk0pl6/summary_of_the_karskin_novel_by_edoardo_albert/

If you want a more detailed one

[outer wave]

Did he want to write this?

It sounds, from that summary anyway, that he really didn't want to write this

[storm jungle]

Im pretty sure he did?

Like, hes just a bad author i think. Because he has written like 3 novels so far and all of them are like very bad

[outer wave]

Oh that sucks

Least he has passion I guess?

Doesn't sound like it but yeah

[outer wave]

Okay this is a pain to read through

It feels kinda meandering

[summer mural]

Im enjoying it, its got nice tidbits like this one

The Kroot carried with them a pot of cultural importance. It's where the Kinband prepared their hunt feasts. If the Karskin are overcome, their flesh will go into the pot.

[outer wave]

I think it's just alot to read especially for a summary

[queen laurel]

Sheesh war boss we ain't that animalistic and aggressive

[keen nova]

Why do people meme on the T'au piss poor melee their firearms make it irrelevant? If anything, why isnt it a meme that the guard can't melee anything outside of direct traitors and the Is occasional Ork?

[near wasp]

Because a lot of combat in 40k turns into a melee

And the average guardsman can out punch the average tau

[winter vessel]

what's that joke saying? if you see a Tau in 40k art fighting, chances are they're gonna be dead.

[arctic talon]

Because memes don’t have to be logical

The point is just to shit talk for that flavor of meme lol

Guard playstyle is the most cowardly in the game lol if we want to be super reductive

Stand back and shoot with artillery 24/7 and tarpit with infantry lol

[crystal forum]

a bottle of fucking water is worth more than a CUSTODES ARMOUR SET????????

[keen nova]

Sounds pretty realistic tbh. I wouldn't wanna get near an ork. Fuck that lol

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-oil-gif-19265348

Jokes aside on the tabletop

Guard melee is pretty bad

But Tau melee is worse

[winter vessel]

Harkonnen bath water

[arctic talon]

Bath oil

[winter vessel]

i like to think they were just marinating him in soy sauce in that scene

[arctic talon]

With old initiative

[crystal forum]

so this book is basically saying that somebody can even buy a custodes armour

[arctic talon]

Tau and guard melee were horrific

[crystal forum]

probably the pinnacle of armour in the imperium

[arctic talon]

Tau had the worst melee in the game since WS and initative

[winter vessel]

Imperium Temu

[arctic talon]

Guard had meh WS and shit initiative

Tau had shit ws and shit initiative

Only faction with worse initiative on average was crons

[winter vessel]

I can't recall ever watching a tabletop battle where the Tau Player was victorious

[crystal forum]

and nomads are selling these bottles? shouldn't a single bottle be able to give them the cash to buy whole planets?

[arctic talon]

Lol

Richard Siegler my GOAT

[crystal forum]

this author is stupid i dont like him and he's a shame on the glorious guard name

[arctic talon]

Plays crons, admech, and Tau

Has won majors on all 3

[winter vessel]

that so?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Very good player

[crystal forum]

-The Karskin troops wear vials around their necks that contain the soil of Cadia

imagine a ship trying to gather dirt from the blown up cadia while the eye of terror is right there

[winter vessel]

the children got pail buckets and plastic shovels on their way to evac ships

[arctic talon]

Fits the imperium tbh

[crystal forum]

alright kids remember to get one cupful of dirt before embarking

[winter vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-licking-sand-squidward-spongebob-gif-23114661 if they're that desperate during the Fall:

[crystal forum]

it would be cool if cadian characteristics weren't mostly about the fact that their planet exploded

[arctic talon]

I mean

Cadians stereotypically are uh

Dicks

[winter vessel]

the edgy 8th grader who had to retake

perepetually

[crystal forum]

tanith mention often their old planet in the books but they still move on

[arctic talon]

Yeah

But Cadians got huge egos

Lol

Huge ego, being dicks, being derranged

Those are the 3 pillars of being a cadian

[crystal forum]

british

[winter vessel]

they're the type at family reunions who say the same story "remember that time when". and at first you thought it was cool. but if that is all they share about at gatherings, it gets annoying

[crystal forum]

i kinda find it funny that multiple people think cadians are themed after canadians just because of the name

[arctic talon]

You wouldn’t have lasted a day on Cadia

[crystal forum]

like how can you miss the fact that creed is straight up churchill

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Creeds not misogynistic or racist enough

[pearl brook]

And how is cadia doing right now If you dont mind me asking?

🤣

[crystal forum]

he does drink and smoke a lot

[arctic talon]

YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH BEFORE I SHUT IT FOR YOU

[crystal forum]

and he does a lot of speeches

[winter vessel]

Even when i came into 40k as a Guard fan, Cadians were not the first ones that caught my attention. Surprisingly, it was the Armageddon Steel Legion

[arctic talon]

Cadians caught my eye when I started

Then elysians

[crystal forum]

tanith were my first 40k book before i knew anything about the setting

[arctic talon]

Because someone at my LGS had an entire Elysian army

Lol

[pearl brook]

I'm not scared. You'd come apart in the last moment. Just like cadia 💀

[arctic talon]

I won’t forget this

[crystal forum]

i still believe that cadian fans just like them because they started tabletop with guard

[arctic talon]

Nah

[nocturne crest]

Heyo all!

[arctic talon]

There’s stuff to like about Cadians lol

[pearl brook]

To this day my most favorite voiceline Exchange in the entire game 😁

[arctic talon]

It’s so good

Lol

[crystal forum]

you literally just admitted cadians were your first exposure to guard tabletop

[arctic talon]

No

They caught my eye becuase of fucking Dawn of war

[crystal forum]

im not saying people dont like them but that's the reason why they're fans

[arctic talon]

LOL

the first tabletop guard army I ever saw were elysians

And then scions

[crystal forum]

odd

[pearl brook]

For me it sits right next to ogryns "yes, come from a long line of lummoxes, have pedigreee"

[winter vessel]

I went from ASL, to Catachans, then Death Korp, then Cadians, then Harakoni Warhawks, followed by Elysians (my longest running favorite), but currently and i can't believe the words are coming out of mouth, Tempestus Scions are my current favorite after watching their KT trailer

[crystal forum]

scions do fuck hard

i like them

[arctic talon]

My favorite regiment are Athonian Tunnelrats

I love their aesthetic lol

[crystal forum]

i like that their personality isn't one note. you can do whatever you want with scions

[arctic talon]

The whole scripture thing is very fun

[pearl brook]

There is a lore snippet where some space marines work with a squad of them and are actually impressed on how good they are

[arctic talon]

Ngl my only complaint about the new KT trailer is it doesn’t end in a mutual team wipe lol

[winter vessel]

had the Maccabian Janissaries as my laptop wallpaper for a time, very mint

[crystal forum]

i made note to not love guard regiments that will never ever get tabletop

janissaries are part of that

[pearl brook]

Like the mongolian/egyptian-esque face masks

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/slugga-boy-warhammer40k-kill-team-ork-wh40k-gif-26410404

[crystal forum]

but i do like how weird the lasguns are

they're like bolters

[crystal forum]

hug

[pearl brook]

Havent seen it yet. My favorite killteam trailer to this day is the Krieg one. Metal as fuck

[arctic talon]

https://youtu.be/Lr4FSwSRuNU?si=hJ1-7RXXKZpA1LZO

[crystal forum]

dont forget the iraqi royal guard vader helmet

most meme military headwear

[pearl brook]

Remind me please, i forgor

[winter vessel]

"customize my lasgun like its 079.M40"

[crystal forum]

https://www.wearethemighty.com/wp-content/uploads/legacy/assets.rbl.ms/17316339/origin.jpg?quality=85

[pearl brook]

Na, that trophy gets to the most recent furry wolf helmets of the space wolf minis 🤣💀

[crystal forum]

saddam wanted these made for his elite units because he watched star wars and thought darth vader was awesome

they aren't even combat rated btw they're like made of plastic

[pearl brook]

"i use a laslock for home defense since that is what the god emperor intended "

[winter vessel]

"tally ho lads!"

[pearl brook]

Lol
Yeah, i remember now

Lol, Saddam was wild

[crystal forum]

the "we want arabian but not brown" regiment

[pearl brook]

Tallarn Desert Raiders?

Excuse me my guard knowledge is limited

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

yeah it's them

[arctic talon]

Also they’re the tank specialty regiment

[crystal forum]

that's actually a type of unit that doesnt exist anymore

[arctic talon]

Which I’ve always found funny

[crystal forum]

melee unit

[pearl brook]

Thx

[arctic talon]

Like

[crystal forum]

fucking ALL regiments need to mention that

krieg, steel legion

cadia at this point has so many tanks

[arctic talon]

No but tallaran are the best

At tank warfare

[crystal forum]

steel legion was all about tanks tho

[arctic talon]

No

They’re about mechanized warfare

Loads of chimeras

Tallaran’s whole thing is tank warfare lore wise

[crystal forum]

this is why im a valhallan fan

infantry is king

[arctic talon]

I’ve never seen this art lol

[crystal forum]

i love how they have the prince of persia movie eyeliner

[arctic talon]

It looks cool put it in the art™️

“The Tallarn Desert Raiders are most renowned for their abilities in swift armoured warfare”

Also their special order in 8e let tanks do some really stupid shit lol

[crystal forum]

weird

[winter vessel]

thing is when i look at Tallarn my first thought was T.E Lawrence because of his headwear

[crystal forum]

krieg fans think kriegers would run at any enemy with bayonets

valhallans will rush orks with bayonets LETS FUCKING GOOOO

[pearl brook]

Didnt they whipe the floor with the Iron warriors in the HH?

The tallarn i mean

[crystal forum]

regiments didn't exist in the HH

not the big name ones

[pearl brook]

Or was this post heresy?

[arctic talon]

Yeah lmao they could jump shoot jump

With tanks

Get Around Behind Them!
Tallarns use their tanks not as simple hammers, but as rapiers – darting swiftly into combat to deliver the killing blow.

[arctic talon]

The regiment didn’t exist yet but yeah the native pdf did lol

Single largest tank battle of the heresy

By far

[winter vessel]

they made sure to inflict a pretty big toll on the 4th Legion

[arctic talon]

Relevant lol

The iron warriors did not have a good time on Tallaran

[winter vessel]

gave me similar vibes when reading about the 2nd world war North African campaign and their tank battles which i thought was a fun experience

[pearl brook]

What book was that again?

[arctic talon]

It’s a campaign book for Imperials and uh

In a lot of fucking books

LOL

[nocturne crest]

So I got an odd question, but what would be the closest similar event to the plot of Dr Strangelove in 40k?

I think it's probably HH in retrospect.

[crystal forum]

what makes you think that

[nocturne crest]

Horus did stuff without the emperor's command (Military figure gone rogue) and the aftermath led to the current imperium (End of the world/ post-apocalyptic beginnings).

Then again, there is more, but I've just broken down to a simplism form.

[median star]

i wouldnt really say it went as far as post apocalyptic

[storm jungle]

I thought lasgun bolts were yellow....

Did GW lie to me....

Can't be...

[crystal forum]

he did it fully knowing what he was doing though

it's not like he was carrying out orders and lost contact by accident

[plush mason]

huh?

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wo-joker-joaqu-gif-23924191

[plush mason]

oh i know they use to have yellow way way back

just didnt get the joke

[crystal forum]

it's ok dilara is just old

[opaque coyote]

Move it closer to the camera smh

[plush mason]

or are some old heads just being your classic "no they didnt change it, change makes me MAD"

[crystal forum]

you know somebody is old when they say new necron lore

[storm jungle]

that post was made 2 months ago

you are like 5 years old shut up

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209843216227368962/1365423826648694836/492771209_1016175827326482_3898712499501573887_n.jpg?ex=680d4188&is=680bf008&hm=7eb9f47e8b8551ba9ea8fd912ae0b481ee180db24a2cb8cc4d9be3f0a771dfde&

Wait wrong image

[plush mason]

Jay is five?

[arctic talon]

No

[crystal forum]

hard

[arctic talon]

I do wonder wtf would have happened

If GW kept on pushing scions as their own army lol

[crystal forum]

they'd be less shit

GW i mean

scions were a breath of fresh air from regiments

i legitimately despise kasrkin

"we have scions at home"

[arctic talon]

They’re really good rn though

[rose thorn]

Gloomspite gamer

[arctic talon]

Tbf every regiment has regimental storm troopers

[crystal forum]

yeah and only kasrkin look boring

i like the krieg storm troopers

[arctic talon]

I find steel legion storm troopers worse lol

[crystal forum]

they just look like regular troops with extra shit AS THEY SHOULD

[rose thorn]

Aren’t those literally just krieg

[arctic talon]

They’re literally just steel legion dudes in carapace

[crystal forum]

not fucking elite discount scions

[arctic talon]

Grenadiers?

[rose thorn]

Yea

[arctic talon]

Yeah they’re regimental storm troopers

[opaque coyote]

also here's an actual semi-lore related meme

[arctic talon]

Well grenadiers rather

[crystal forum]

grenadiers yeah

[arctic talon]

Catachan’s are funny

[rose thorn]

They aren’t discernible at all

[arctic talon]

Catachan devils

They don’t have shirts

Still

[arctic talon]

They are, they got an armored chest plate and edgy skull mask lol

[crystal forum]

that's what makes them good. you can only tell by the vest and added helmet armour

because they're not elite they're just slightly better than average

guardsmen still die

i hate kasrkin

[arctic talon]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/e/e1/KriegGren.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120630203907

[crystal forum]

and the hellgun ofc

[arctic talon]

Also the new engineers

[crystal forum]

engineers are cool too

they get cool ass shotguns

[arctic talon]

Are confirmed part of the regimental storm troopers

Which is neat since before

They were a weird grey zone

[opaque coyote]

one of them have a cutlass

[crystal forum]

they were their own thing yeah

[opaque coyote]

although what's with the blue thingy

[crystal forum]

but that makes sense they're tunnelers

[arctic talon]

Power weapon

[opaque coyote]

oh

[sacred ginkgo]

Random thing you made me think of, are there any vehicles that use mechanum wheels (the wheels with tires made of diagonal rollers)

[opaque coyote]

fucking nice

[arctic talon]

Lol

[opaque coyote]

that dude got the fancy loadout

...

I almost said preem

I want to die

[crystal forum]

krieg straight up stole the skull mask from steel legion officers

[arctic talon]

Don’t think so, imperial vehicles mostly don’t have wheels

[arctic talon]

It’s the sgt

No shit he has fancy gear

[crystal forum]

i'd take an autoshotgun over a fucking sword

BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM

there was an ork there?

[arctic talon]

In any case they were always weird lol

Since regimental engineers with fancy gear formed from veterans

That is literally just a regiments storm trooper corp lol

But krieg had 2 dif ones for reasons because some of them yearn for the mines

[crystal forum]

because of the krieg campaign wolf

[arctic talon]

Nah

Still just a weird choice by FW lol

[storm jungle]

they were doing that?

I never noticed ngl

[crystal forum]

for the vraks campaign wolf

[arctic talon]

I know

But still

Weird choice within the book

[storm jungle]

to be fair

you are arguing about the same studio

[arctic talon]

If you bring up Hector Rex

[storm jungle]

that did a tyranid spore mine unit from its own range

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

that literally does what main range tyranid spores do

?????

💀

[crystal forum]

FW does whatever the fuck it wants

[storm jungle]

yeah uh

look where that got em

lmao

[arctic talon]

It’s COOL!!!

[storm jungle]

YEAH BUT LIKE WHY

[arctic talon]

Dead

IDK

[storm jungle]

Exactly

[arctic talon]

Ask Bligh

[crystal forum]

i just wish i knew about it 10 years ago

[arctic talon]

Oh wait we can’t

[storm jungle]

Fuck you

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

ha

[arctic talon]

I miss Alan Bligh

I miss him a lot

[crystal forum]

who

[storm jungle]

The guy who literally carried forgeworld

[arctic talon]

The dude who made FW actually good/hj

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Alan_Bligh

[arctic talon]

Fw is genuinely absurdly directionless

Without him

It’s kind of insane

[storm jungle]

^

it literally collapsed

[crystal forum]

damn

[storm jungle]

he did all of this

Vraks and Badab were like

his magnum opus

[arctic talon]

He did more then just that

Lol

[crystal forum]

if only they found somebody else

[arctic talon]

Nah

[storm jungle]

I mean

[arctic talon]

He’s irreplaceable

Lol

[crystal forum]

what

[storm jungle]

Yeah

he wrote literally all of vraks

badab

the black books

etc

[arctic talon]

He was number 1 FW cat herder

[storm jungle]

people still talk about it today

[crystal forum]

i know some people who would be good at it

[storm jungle]

Doubt it

[crystal forum]

bruh

[storm jungle]

his lore is remembered over 2 decades later

[arctic talon]

You also need

To sculpt the fucking minis

• have a production schedule GW is okay with

He did all of those things

He could play corporate and do nerd shit

[crystal forum]

was he that good on his first day

[storm jungle]

thats like saying "was Albert Einstein good in school"

it doesnt matter

what matters is what he did

[arctic talon]

I mean badab was the first book he solo wrote so yeah lol

[storm jungle]

LMAO

thanks, point proven

[crystal forum]

i'm just saying other people could have been given a shot

[storm jungle]

It wouldnt have worked.

[arctic talon]

And they did

Lol

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

GW did give other people a shot

[storm jungle]

and look at FW now

[arctic talon]

FW leadership

Also took a shot thenselves

FW fucking imploded

[crystal forum]

then they chose bad people

[arctic talon]

There’s a reason Fires of Cyraxus never made it out the door

Because Bligh fucking died

And they lost all momentum and direction

[crystal forum]

GW is dog shit corporate wise this is known

[arctic talon]

They really didn’t

Because the choices weren’t from corporate, they were internally picked by FW

And they failed

And FW now is kind of just shambling along

As a half rotted corpse

[storm jungle]

^

I dont get like

why you just dont wanna accept Bligh was goated

the man literally died from an illness too lol

[crystal forum]

that's what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket

[arctic talon]

Yeah and he’s the only reason GW didn’t kill FW

During the original FW purge

[storm jungle]

Yep.

[arctic talon]

Lol

[crystal forum]

when did i say he wasn't

[storm jungle]

like

[storm jungle]

shut

theres a reason shit like Siege of Cthonia came out

and went by like a wet fart

beceause the lore in it sucks

[crystal forum]

i liked it

[storm jungle]

as much as its tabletop stuff

lol

[arctic talon]

The formatting sucks

Really badly

[storm jungle]

Yeah that too

Its just very lifeless and boring

[arctic talon]

Fw has horrible consistency now

For their formatting

[storm jungle]

to be fair, FW barely exists as an entity

lol

[arctic talon]

Civil war of mars and beta garmon

Are both great layout wise

Siege of cthonia is ????????

[storm jungle]

Yeah also the lack of marketing/hype doesnt help.

[arctic talon]

Why the fuck is there inductii rules

In the middle of my fucking lore excerpt

Why is this here

[storm jungle]

like the HH Black Books/Imperial Armor updates were like tv show episodes dropping almost lol

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

now its met with "eh whatever"

[crystal forum]

i dont think these factors you both mentioned would have been much improved by the other guy

[storm jungle]

It absolutely would have

[arctic talon]

By bligh? They would have

Lol

[crystal forum]

marketing?

formating?

[arctic talon]

Formatting yes

[storm jungle]

Yes?

[arctic talon]

Marketing no

[storm jungle]

you do realise like

[arctic talon]

Imo

[storm jungle]

he oversees this shit right

yeah minus marketing

thats literally out of anyones hands

[arctic talon]

Formatting absolutely

[storm jungle]

you just do the product, and see how its recieved

[arctic talon]

Bligh would have done a better job

Imo

[storm jungle]

and in bligh's case

it was universally praised

[crystal forum]

don't these people have underlings to do the formatting

[arctic talon]

No

Lol

[storm jungle]

No lol

This takes like

a ton of effort

and oversight

[arctic talon]

There also needs to be good compositions for photos lol

Since FW takes photos of minis

And then overlays them into art

[crystal forum]

that's just bad management if it's not done right

[arctic talon]

Anyways this is some of Bligh’s last work

Photo wise

https://preview.redd.it/hey-gw-allegedly-fires-of-cyraxus-was-close-to-complete-v0-n1i90afty8aa1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=edd897976caa72a34f496aa3b463da4451a93667

Fucks sake

[storm jungle]

Fires of Cyraxus

[arctic talon]

Why didn’t the other one post

[storm jungle]

a swanswong never to be lol

[arctic talon]

https://external-preview.redd.it/Ad4m7dNdSnzO3J3ijQEpvXEz9lhBprrzcZ9ddEhnZ90.jpg?auto=webp&s=62396699734d4224049094989e38f67775270635

[crystal forum]

i'm just trying to tell both of you that if a department in a company collapses after the loss of one guy then that's the company's fault, not an inevitable fact of life

[storm jungle]

I mean okay

but it still doesnt change anything

he carried FW

this is a very well known fact

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah we are literally saying it’s FW’s fault

Lol

[storm jungle]

^

lmao

yeah

[arctic talon]

They fucking imploded

[crystal forum]

is FW traded as a separate company

[storm jungle]

Like you dont understand how extremely involved he was with FW productions.

[arctic talon]

Fw was way too fractured pre Bligh

[crystal forum]

like what was the autonomy level

[arctic talon]

FW was a sub division

With full autonomy

[crystal forum]

why was it started anyways

[arctic talon]

Up until Horus Heresy 2e lol

Then they got rolled into the specialist games division of citadel

Because they were literally drowning

[arctic talon]

Specific niche mini products, large resin stuff

[crystal forum]

so did GW do that stuff before

[arctic talon]

No

[crystal forum]

so it was a new thing

[arctic talon]

yeah FW was made entirely to handle that

[crystal forum]

i wonder if it would have thrived more these days

[arctic talon]

They basically got given a blank check to “make something interesting”

[arctic talon]

No because people would 100% bitch about the prices

Because FW’s stuff was all $$$$

Lol

And they had terrible QC back in the day

[crystal forum]

ok let's imagine 2000's prices

[arctic talon]

So like 1.5 to 2x the cost of 40k stuff even back then

[crystal forum]

damn

[arctic talon]

Would still be a hard price to swallow for people lol

[opaque coyote]

You are forced to forgive and defend one on the list.

Which will you choose to defend?

[arctic talon]

Especially due to the lack of QC

With the resin

[crystal forum]

i guess for full armies they just suxk

[arctic talon]

Die

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

FW is better suited for characters

[opaque coyote]

Good choice, I'd do the same

[arctic talon]

There’s a reason a whole joke Forgeworld East

[crystal forum]

or showpieces

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

Lol

Forgeworld East = recasters

[crystal forum]

like HH became so much more accessible after mk4 went plastic

[arctic talon]

A FW employee seeing more chaplain dreadnoughts

Then FW ever produced

[opaque coyote]

Either that or choose Vect and then just say

"It was funny"

[arctic talon]

This isn’t a joke btw

This is real

There was an army showcase event/tournament back in 8e

And there were more chaplain dreads present then FW ever made

LOL

Same with the super old Corsair vampire

That thing sold like shit

I’ve prolly seen more recasted vampires then real ones lol

[storm jungle]

I love how like, the Badab War's entire reason for being re-imagined was Bligh and his team just got the order from management which was:

"We wanna see how people would think of marines fighting marines before we go ballsdeep on Horus Heresy on Forgeworld, do this shit now."

[arctic talon]

Yeah pretty much

[crystal forum]

badab lore is so wild

[opaque coyote]

Tbf the Badab War is more interesting to me than the HH

[arctic talon]

Ngl Badab is way cooler then the heresy

[storm jungle]

its not that wild but its very "realistic" in-universe

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

I realy like it

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

the fact that the corsairs are now fucking huge and basically their own faction in lore

[arctic talon]

Red corsairs are funny

I think the thing is

99% of forgeworld projects

[opaque coyote]

Also funnier since

Although the reasons for the actual war are multi-facted and complicated.

It technically got partially started due to Huron refusing to pay taxes (for an actual good reason but still).

[arctic talon]

Were never profitable

Lol

Like even badab

Was a loss financially

[opaque coyote]

...fr??

[arctic talon]

Yes

[opaque coyote]

how da fuc

[arctic talon]

Horus Heresy

And Vraks

Were the only highly profitable ones

Then aphelion project

The Eldar one broke even but the guard side sold like shit

[crystal forum]

ok and krieg lore brought thousands of people to 40k

so who's laughing now

[arctic talon]

Alan Bligh’s ghost

Who watches over us all/j

[crystal forum]

i need to remind you wolf specifically

[arctic talon]

Oh also Bligh took a lot of alpha legion lore to his grave lol

[crystal forum]

that i called the krieg refresh

[arctic talon]

Which is depressing and hilarious

At the same time

[crystal forum]

and you didn't listen

[arctic talon]

Of all the reasons we lost alpha legion lore

It’s because Bligh died

Before he wrote it down

[opaque coyote]

To be fair, Kriegers in general are still the coolest looking for me.

There's surprisingly very few WW1 styled stuff

[arctic talon]

Like

[crystal forum]

krieg fans are a massive part of the community

[arctic talon]

There’s some irony to that

[crystal forum]

but old fans here didn't see

[opaque coyote]

To the point where a lot of Krieg Fans call them WW2 soldiers

[arctic talon]

I’ll believe in the krieg refresh when I see more people with them

It happened with the KT

Now with the plastic range

I’m half joking

[crystal forum]

they need tanks now

[arctic talon]

They need a vehicle crew upgrade sprue

That’s it

For a gunner

[crystal forum]

well they had mars pattern

which kinda became theirs

[arctic talon]

The mars pattern is sold again

[opaque coyote]

A GW employee stands next to Bligh with a pistol cocked towards his head.

"Hydra Dominatus"

[arctic talon]

It’s the Solar auxilia russ

[crystal forum]

even though mars existed before apparently

like wtf were the trench clearers for then

[arctic talon]

Yeah mars pattern existed all the way back

With imperial armor 1 or 2 lol

But only with art

And a prototype mini

[crystal forum]

it's nice tbh i like how it's judr a slightly different russ

[arctic talon]

Man the fulgrim prototype mini

Wonder why we never got it

[crystal forum]

dont forget the hundreds of flavours of russ

[arctic talon]

https://preview.redd.it/never-forget-the-fulgrim-prototype-forge-world-decided-v0-c9of0jwigmfa1.jpg?auto=webp&s=42c4895298218be8cc125de1b3714d206fa3bb02

Like man

[crystal forum]

there's so many fucking russ variants over the years

[arctic talon]

I wish GW still showed off prototype minis

Tbh

[crystal forum]

nah

need more FOMO

[arctic talon]

Lol

Minis don’t have FOMO tho

[crystal forum]

they get sold out because they're announced like 1 week before release

GET YOUR WALLETS FUCKERS

[arctic talon]

That’s for pre orders

That’s also not really FOMO imo

The minis will exist regardless

They’re not limited time

[crystal forum]

also im not entirely convinced that GW doesnt intentionally send unreleased models to random people

it generates a LOT of hype

[crystal forum]

they still want to clear shelves as fast as possible

[arctic talon]

obviously

They're still a company

[crystal forum]

that's how they judge how much of a mini should be produced

if they're out of stock quick they produce more

[arctic talon]

Stares at the AoS range

that almost insantly sells out everytime its restocked

GW pls

I need the new factory

[crystal forum]

or leviathan box lol

i can still find some btw

[arctic talon]

tbf

that one was MTO

lol

they def overproduced levi

but thats fine

[crystal forum]

it was awesome

[arctic talon]

I'd rather Gw overproduce

[crystal forum]

i could buy one

[arctic talon]

then underproduce tbh

[crystal forum]

we all do wolf

who tf doesnt

[arctic talon]

man

Uh

scalpers

[crystal forum]

lol

imagine how much money they lost

on leviathan

[arctic talon]

GW fucking over scalpers in 9e

was the funniest thing

with indomitus

day after the preorder is sold out

"Oh btw we're doing made to orders on Indomitus"

"If you want a box you'll get a box"

[crystal forum]

hell yeah man

[arctic talon]

Cue scalpers melting down

[crystal forum]

if only GW cared

scalpers would die

[arctic talon]

I wish GW cared as much for books

god

books get scalped so hard

I just want a hardcover MAN

[crystal forum]

just the limited editions

still blame GW for that

putting cardboard on your books shouldn't be fucking LE

[arctic talon]

oh also this is a really funny 3d print

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195404877688602624/1365456480756826122/image.png?ex=680d5ff1&is=680c0e71&hm=b6c0f7bdd42dee996884c38795a47d747b4d440839e1cd33fa8a9ed541f710dc&

[sacred ginkgo]

What kind of skull even is that

[crystal forum]

lmao

[crystal forum]

i think it's the chad skull meme

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/craniuroacer-gif-27519851

Its a reference to the bad to the bone skull meme

[sacred ginkgo]

Incredible

[crystal forum]

the model also fucking sucks

they just clipped a skull model into an actual helmet

[sacred ginkgo]

I thought it was a really fucked up wolfen skull or something stupid along those lines

[crystal forum]

the clipping is real bad

dog shit topology

also there's gaps inside

between the skull and the helmet

[arctic talon]

its someones low effort shitpost

tbh

[crystal forum]

this shit will not print well

[arctic talon]

yeah no

this thing seems horrid to print lol

[crystal forum]

my shitposts are high effort

which is why they take 7 months

[bold veldt]

this is seemingly the chat for specific people

but not only for lore

i think this is a safe space

[sacred bluff]

How much ammo does a typical space marine carry

[rocky gale]

Enough

[arctic talon]

3-5 magazines according to deathwatch TTRPG

[rocky gale]

Or if the narrative deems it nessecary, not enough

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/maddie-nolen-ginger-arcane-arcane-season-2-gif-16977849915404188853

yeah that as well lol

[rocky gale]

My Goat

[arctic talon]

funny ass ||Noxian warmason||

[rocky gale]

Useless lesbian hated by most of the audience, Just like me fr

[arctic talon]

I assure you ||General Medarda having sex with Caitlyn Kiramen is necessary to accomplish my goals||

[arctic talon]

ngl she was cool

[rocky gale]

I really liked her

Was not anticipating that she was so widely hated

[arctic talon]

she's hated because she's meant to be disliked

well

[rocky gale]

Like I talked about her in a server and people thought I was trolling

[arctic talon]

sorta

idk the League lore community likes her LOL

I think she's a cool example of Noxian espionage

https://tenor.com/view/caitlyn-kiramman-ponytail-arcane-caitlyn-kiramman-act-3-iii-arcane-arcane-season-2-caitlyn-and-maddie-arcane-gif-13846368370366645456

RIP double agent

her last words were COLD lol

[rocky gale]

She's also got the same voice as Suvi from Andromeda, so she's technically my wife

[arctic talon]

Oh also fun detail

when she shoots the uh

black and white frames between the gunshot and like the shield thing

she's smiling in it

even if her actual like face isn't smiling

pretty fun frame

not sure why they did it

[rocky gale]

Can't wait to see more of her in Arcane Season 3

[arctic talon]

I mean

She might be back lol

[rocky gale]

It's Arcane, literally no one ever stays dead

[arctic talon]

no

[storm jungle]

have you seen some of Maddie's concept art

[arctic talon]

I mean as a zombie

I haven't

[storm jungle]

its insane how cute they made her look

💀

[vagrant fox]

i don't know who this is but i can fix her

[storm jungle]

@arctic talon @rocky gale

[arctic talon]

neat

[rocky gale]

She doesn't need fixing, she's perfect

[arctic talon]

I mean

Noxian warmasons tend to be on the younger side LOL

[storm jungle]

I legit wonder how this concept process went

"yeah so we need a noxan cutie freckled spy character"

[arctic talon]

if she was gona be the traitor from the start

they def made her cute/appear disarming on purpose

[storm jungle]

99% likely

[rocky gale]

How much of the hate she gets do you think is solely because she briefly got in the way of the ship of Kait and Vi?

[storm jungle]

Almost entirely lol

[arctic talon]

A lot

lol

[storm jungle]

the arcane fandom is like feral dogs

lol

[arctic talon]

anyways if Maddie does come back its as a black rose grey legionary lol

same with ambessa

[rocky gale]

Ambessa ain't dead though

[arctic talon]

Well

[rocky gale]

Got to be honest, I'm not even fully sure

[arctic talon]

She's effectively dead, if she isn't dead

[rocky gale]

Last episode was pretty ass, I stopped caring like halfway through

[arctic talon]

her soul or mind got siphoned off I think

lol

[rocky gale]

It genuinely just turned into a lightshow and it felt like nothing was happening, while too much was also simultaneously happening

[arctic talon]

They needed more time

lol

they needed at least another 3 episodes if not another season

hopefully whatever they do next is better paced

[bold veldt]

her death was one of the most quick and brutal of the series imo

just snap and shes dead

[arctic talon]

it is a gunshot lol

[bold veldt]

but like

the other deaths had character

[arctic talon]

the way her corpse falls over goes crazy lol

[bold veldt]

espionage lesbian girl judt died

that whole scene was fire

[storm jungle]

Nothing was happening
Said nothing:

https://tenor.com/view/viktor-arcane-viktor-arcane-god-jesus-hextech-messiah-arcane-season-2-gif-17813073538975317269

[opaque coyote]

Ah yes

"Nothing ever happens"

made into flesh

[rocky gale]

They also kinda proved that they didn't really know how to resolve the Zaun/Piltover tension, so they just introduced a big bad so they would stop fighting eachother and forget the centuries of oppression and subjugation

[storm jungle]

I mostly said that to post that gif

viktor turning into a chaos god was uh

unexpected

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[storm jungle]

I mean

[rocky gale]

It's also wild how quickly he turns around

[storm jungle]

i didnt see anything that implies they forgot anything

it was just to defeat a bigger threat that was gonna cook em all

[crystal forum]

i will never watch anything associated even partially with league of legends

[rocky gale]

In the span of 30 seconds Viktor goes from "No, I will risk everything even myself and everything I've built to recover the humanity of this one man"

To "I am going to nuke all life because free will is cringe"

[arctic talon]

anyways this is all the official art/designs we have for warmasons lol. They all trend on the younger side imo

[storm jungle]

what is a warmason

[arctic talon]

Tbf the cities are literally going to split in a few years LOL

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

noxian saboteur/espionage agent

[crystal forum]

a freemason who gets angry

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP

[arctic talon]

Espionage until Noxian invasion then they actively sabotage the opposition

Usually with bombs lol

[storm jungle]

so

basically a spy?

[crystal forum]

why are they masons

[arctic talon]

Yeah

basicially a spy

lol

[crystal forum]

is it because mason sounds cool

[storm jungle]

yes

i assume so lmao

[arctic talon]

yes

lol

[crystal forum]

WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEAN MASON

[arctic talon]

they don't engage in engineering stuff

well

I guess they clear forests

LOL

by burning them

[crystal forum]

that's not what a mason does

[rocky gale]

I get it, they're warmasons because they're laying the foundation to build the war

[arctic talon]

I wouldn't count that though

Oh

oh thats

really smart

thats def the intended meaning lol

[storm jungle]

damn

Moth cooked us

💀

[crystal forum]

maybe they're like warcrafters

[arctic talon]

idk

[storm jungle]

like

[crystal forum]

but that's copyrighted