fuuuuuck
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
LMFAO
spring cairn
kid called irony
spare osprey
swear i saw a pic of a car that was all white scar themed, and it had two white scar icons next to each other
looked REAL interesting
spring cairn
my grandfather was also a white scars fan it seems
crystal forum
i see a lot of buddhism fans with the same sign on them in 40k groups idk why
dapper gyro
How about instead of a tattoo, get an actual scar?
arctic talon
dapper gyro
If you want to go crazy, then go full grimdark crazy, show your dedication to the imperial cult.
arctic talon
How about instead of a tattoo, get an actual scar?
I already got one from falling and hitting my head
dapper gyro
I already got one from falling and hitting my head
That one is not big enough, you clearly haven't show enough devotion.
arctic talon
Lol
dapper gyro
Fall from higher, get bigger scar.
crystal forum
one could say at higher speeds
spring cairn
deadly high speed motorbike accident (Subtle White Scars reference)
crystal forum
remember, car surfing is both cool and awesome
wintry scarab
On the 40k discord on the topic of tattoos
This, for some reason reminded me of that one time when i saw a legit roblox nazi map thing and they used 40k aquila as a substitute for their logos.
crystal forum
you should do it now
dapper gyro
Combine the cool factor with the White Scars, high speed moto riding without helmet.
spring cairn
there's an entire white scars themed country
arctic talon
This, for some reason reminded me of that one time when i saw a legit roblox naz...
What the fuck lol
spring cairn
idk what the president having sex with horses is supposed to reference tho
or was that Kazakhstan
i always forget
dapper gyro
"Until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death"
crystal forum
khazakstan is the borat country
dapper gyro
That should be the White Scar real warcry.
crystal forum
they also have potatos and grass
rocks
also this
former soviet countries where you can find remains of space shuttles in the middle of nowhere
vagrant fox
There even used to be free tanks and aircraft around the place
arctic talon
former soviet countries where you can find remains of space shuttles in the midd...
Destiny reference
Cosmodrome!!!!!
vagrant fox
ahh shit, home, or at least it used to be
plush mason
Destiny reference
i just saw the destiny x star wars cross over skins
crystal forum
why is everything dead in destiny
plush mason
hunter gets death trooper, titan gets storm trooper and warlock gets imperial guard
plush mason
why is everything dead in destiny
the darkness fucked everything and everyone up at the end of the golden age
vagrant fox
why is everything dead in destiny
post very bad apocalypse
arctic talon
why is everything dead in destiny
It’s post post apocalypse
99% of humanity died lol
crystal forum
that was a golden age?
rose thorn
The player crawled out of a car here lol
What’s the lore behind millions of people being born from the same car wreck
crystal forum
the shitty ass car pileup
arctic talon
that was a golden age?
Well there was a golden age
plush mason
What’s the lore behind millions of people being born from the same car wreck
all dead, like all guardians
arctic talon
the shitty ass car pileup
Likely some sort of gravity based attack
arctic talon
What’s the lore behind millions of people being born from the same car wreck
Only the player guardian came from that specific wreck tbf
plush mason
the ghosts go out to find and res dead people to become guardians
arctic talon
But yeah a lot of dead bodies
In the Russian cosmodrome
People were rushing to get off world
Didn’t help lol
vagrant fox
What’s the lore behind millions of people being born from the same car wreck
there's a lot of cars, I think they made a reference to a high rate of new guardians coming from the cosmodrome at some point
crystal forum
was there like a solar flare or something
or a big war
or an actually good destiny game
arctic talon
Humanity got mass genocided
rose thorn
Lmao
arctic talon
Lol
plush mason
as i always play an exo i just image my guardian is just a rusted pile of scrap before the ghost finds it
arctic talon
was there like a solar flare or something
An example of how this mass murder was carried out was that Titan which got terraformed into an ocean had massive waves formed with gravitational waves and then they repeatedly got released over and over
Until most of the structures had collapsed
And then the arcologies got invaded
And everyone left inside pretty much died
rose thorn
On the topic of genocides, my knight house are too hyper focused im gonna rewrite them with a different primarch to genocide
crystal forum
so an alien invasion
crystal forum
so is there any humans left
crystal forum
where's the rest
plush mason
so is there any humans left
yes in the last city, protected by the traveler
crystal forum
any on earth?
arctic talon
where's the rest
Survived one way or another
crystal forum
ah
arctic talon
Yeah
Earth had quite a few survivors
So did Mars and Venus
Until uh
The vex got more active
crystal forum
do you ever see any in the games
arctic talon
Yeah
You see human civilians all the time in destiny
Whenever you’re in the last city
Guardians are also human or human descended
humans, exo and awoken
plush mason
the red war also introduced us to the survivors outside the last city
crystal forum
humans, exo and awoken
woke class
plush mason
because ofc not all people want to stay in the city
arctic talon
woke class
blue skin and pronouns/j
plush mason
btw the traveler is a god machine
arctic talon
also wow that grimore photo is not flattering lol
plush mason
that looks like a giant white ball
crystal forum
i love halving my vision
median star
blue skin and pronouns/j
but what if it was blue
arctic talon
Awoken are weird messed up humans who got mutated by the light and darkness "clashing"
around the astroid belt
plush mason
for all the good that did, but yeah the warminds where great
arctic talon
they're from a single colony ship
late osprey
i forgot where the fuckup was but yeah
arctic talon
his fuckup was trying to restart the warsat system
late osprey
i think hes just like "im too smart to wor kwith anyone else"
arctic talon
which led to a damned if you do damned if you don't situation
late osprey
too big picture for his own good when he starts killing guardians for getting in his way
arctic talon
where regardless of if he used the war sat system it was going to result in Earth getting invaded by Xivu lol
so he just killed himself to solve that
crystal forum
is that the system on earth
arctic talon
too big picture for his own good when he starts killing guardians for getting in...
his own "son" as well
crystal forum
to protect it
arctic talon
Warsat systems are across the entire solar system
as an orbital bombardment/defense satalite system
crystal forum
like a human built system?
late osprey
the original plan was a sort of AM style super computer to run a defensive war against the allens
crystal forum
why didnt they use that when they were getting genocided
late osprey
but rasputin, the AM in question, fucked up
arctic talon
they did
it wasn't enough
Rasputin realized that humanity would survive and he would as well
if he shut everything down
so he did exactly that which a lot of people saw as a "betrayal"
crystal forum
so why did humans lose so badly
arctic talon
Rasptuin became active after the darkness left
arctic talon
so why did humans lose so badly
outmatched tech wise and numbers wise
late osprey
so why did humans lose so badly
it was just an unwinnable war
crystal forum
are the aliens just dicks
late osprey
rasputin took the only course that would result in humanity aggregately surviving
late osprey
which was i guess not fighting + pretending to be dead
arctic talon
yeah
pre rasputins death
he would regularly crash warsats onto planets on purpose
for guardians/humans
to retrive the valuble data from them
- salvage them for weaponry parts
Nowadays they just fall onto planets occasianlly
plush mason
the witness's fleet is insane by itself, black pyramid ships that can fuck with reality and people's minds
crystal forum
is the joke that he's called rasputin and he always almost dies but doesnt
arctic talon
and the same is done
arctic talon
is the joke that he's called rasputin and he always almost dies but doesnt
maybe lol
late osprey
i dont know why hes called rasputin specifically but he talks in russian
arctic talon
Yeah
late osprey
and the ghost has to translate for you
crystal forum
weird name to choose for a war machine AI
vagrant fox
"On Earth, Henriette Meyrin of the Black Armory noted the sky seemed to burn as space junk in orbit were set aflame, the ground split open, a sickly green light pervaded everything and the wind grew strong enough to throw cars and houses. At one point, she found a large cloud that could reduce people to bones"
I find the cloud part weirdly funny
crystal forum
so is this setting grimdark or are humans getting better
arctic talon
humans getting betterer
plush mason
i dont know why hes called rasputin specifically but he talks in russian
al the warminds where named for famous masters of the arts and sciences iirc
arctic talon
its noblebright
late osprey
its not grimdark at all
arctic talon
mostly
late osprey
they're rebuilding from the ashes
arctic talon
The Dark age was grimdark
late osprey
the traveller's here
vagrant fox
It has grim elements but it's mostly hopeful and bright
vagrant fox
Dead Orbit were dickass cowards anyway
arctic talon
Rasputin has 3 known subminds: Charlamagne, Malahayati and Volsupa
late osprey
although Future War Cult is a fucking awesome name
arctic talon
FWC go hard
they are by far my favorite faction
Shame their scheme is uh
its interesting
vagrant fox
It's definitely there
crystal forum
Rasputin has 3 known subminds: Charlamagne, Malahayati and Volsupa
these names are such weird choices
arctic talon
yeah
late osprey
its interesting
i always get reminded of when i was a kid when i see FWC
the Teku from fucking Hot Wheels
arctic talon
well ask the evil dude who came up with the program and tried to become a God
lol
Clovis Bray was a fucking weirdo
late osprey
arctic talon
LOL
crystal forum
charlemagne, the first female admiral in the modern world and a norse mythological origin of the world
arctic talon
dead orbit has the generic "edgy" color scheme
plush mason
Clovis Bray was a fucking weirdo
didnt he also make the exos and bring the vex into the system?
late osprey
im a New Monarchy Screamer
arctic talon
New Monarchy has a nice color scheme
vagrant fox
Before Clovis Bray, I kneel. He is extremely funny in how much of a dick he is
crystal forum
will there be a destiny 3 or is that why the community is crying still
arctic talon
Nah
late osprey
i think we're in the middle of the very last act of destiny 2
late osprey
if it hasnt happened already
arctic talon
Destiny 2 honestly
crystal forum
i thought 2 crashed
arctic talon
needs to get something done about all the bloat lol
eh
sorta
its got like 30k players on Steam daily still
vagrant fox
Reckon Bungie is going to focus on Marathon for a bit
late osprey
we're basically fighting the Darkness Itself at this point
crystal forum
that aint bad
late osprey
so after destiny 2 i dont think theres gonna be anything to do in that setting
crystal forum
as in the guys who killed humanity
late osprey
yeah
crystal forum
why are they called the darkness
late osprey
because they have a dark edgy aesthetic i guess
late osprey
or they put out the light of civilization and oppose the traveller, whose very light-themed
nocturne crest
Maybe they'll bring back all the Destiny 2 factions in the future.
late osprey
in destiny the line between magic and tech is kinda nonexistent to my knowledge
nocturne crest
Seeing how they all fucked off after a failed coup attempted.
vagrant fox
Paracausality is just magic, it's fine
late osprey
Seeing how they all fucked off after a failed coup attempted.
the factions doing that is super weird
nocturne crest
They all did it.
late osprey
yeah
like lol why are FWC and Dead Orbit teaming up?
just because they're racist against allens?
yeah right
crystal forum
is there not a valid reason to hate aliens
late osprey
it seems like they just wanted to write them out somehow
vagrant fox
It's a weird yingyang thing, there's The Darkness/The Deep opposed by The Light/The Sky who're kind of opposing forces
I don't remember if it was a theory but I don't think the darkness was inherently bad or the light inherently good
late osprey
is there not a valid reason to hate aliens
FWC and Dead Orbit are diametrically opposed to their very core
one wants to fight the Darkness and the other wants to escape it
crystal forum
It's a weird yingyang thing, there's The Darkness/The Deep opposed by The Light/...
the darkness being the guys who wiped out humanity right
late osprey
also the idea of the New Monarchy fleeing the Last City when their entire ideology is based around the Last City is just memes
arctic talon
It was an attempted power grab
by the consensus to overthrow the existing like
government
more so tbh
plush mason
the darkness being the guys who wiped out humanity right
a catch all term for the various races that attacked the system to take control of the traveller
arctic talon
thats why Dead Orbit was on board
crystal forum
alright so what's the traveler
plush mason
a god machine
arctic talon
A giant paracausal god machine
crystal forum
is that the sphere thing i've seen in videos
arctic talon
yeah its the sphere
crystal forum
what does it do
rose thorn
Reddit rotted my brain, what’s the ideology of iron warriors again?
arctic talon
Reddit rotted my brain, what’s the ideology of iron warriors again?
wdym by ideology?
rose thorn
Like what’s lore and not edit
crystal forum
Reddit rotted my brain, what’s the ideology of iron warriors again?
iron within
arctic talon
The weak die
the strong survive
blah blah blah you're all worthless meat for the grinder
rose thorn
Oh so it’s similar to iron hands?
crystal forum
Gives out "the light"
is that a good thing
arctic talon
Yeah
late osprey
Reddit rotted my brain, what’s the ideology of iron warriors again?
they're pretty similar to iron hands iirc in that they think bionics are sick as fuck
arctic talon
is that a good thing
yes, its a benevolent god
rose thorn
Thank you
late osprey
they generally prefer to subjugate daemons rather than serve them
plush mason
what does it do
it enabled the golden age and was directly involved in making most of the planets of the sol system habitable
late osprey
that ive seen
rose thorn
I’m gonna rewrite my house but iron warriors instead of sons of horus
arctic talon
because it thought it would stop them from getting genocided
which uh
did kind of work
plush mason
i also made the ghosts so it can bring the dead back to life
crystal forum
so humanity got wiped out because they dared to listen to a god machine
arctic talon
no
they dared to get the blessings of it
that was it
that condemed them to getting genocided
crystal forum
why does the darkness hate this thing so much if all it does is help
arctic talon
because The Witness is extremely petty
arctic talon
why does the darkness hate this thing so much if all it does is help
The darkness itself doesn't hate
Those who use it hate the traveler for a variety of reasons
vagrant fox
the darkness being the guys who wiped out humanity right
Yes-ish, sorta
Megamind here, the Witness, was more the one doing it than the actual darkness. He wanted the "final shape" or whatever
plush mason
yeah the witness doesnt care, it just wants the traveler's power so it can make all the universe part of it
arctic talon
they think its weak/indecisive
rose thorn
“Don’t rely on machines, the strong protect the weak”
late osprey
destiny is at its core a very clear Good vs Evil story tbh
rose thorn
Yes-ish, sorta
Megamind here, the Witness, was more the one doing it than the ac...
Disney villian lookin ass
late osprey
the Traveller is Good and so brings about Good things unconditionally, the darkness is Evil and so brings about Evil things unconditionally
plush mason
Disney villian lookin ass
that skinny bitch is made up of whole species btw
crystal forum
so are humans pissed
plush mason
ritualistic suicide moment
that was how it was made
rose thorn
He looks so fucking stupid
crystal forum
i'd be pissed at all this
rose thorn
I liked the bugs better
rose thorn
(No bias)
arctic talon
the witness is just
plush mason
the final shape is it's end goal of making all the universe part of it
arctic talon
It wants to put everything in stasis forever
late osprey
so are humans pissed
the Traveller remained to help humanity build after the fact as well
vagrant fox
Getting people onboard with having aliens in the last city was a bit difficult iirc
arctic talon
perfect entropy lol
arctic talon
Getting people onboard with having aliens in the last city was a bit difficult i...
The fallen and humanity have a lot of bad blood lol
late osprey
and is arguably the only reason why they survived at all
rose thorn
It wants to put everything in stasis forever
Why lol
rose thorn
Is he collecting shit
crystal forum
so if the traveler never came to humanity then there wouldn't have been a genocide right
arctic talon
it belives life is meaningless
arctic talon
so if the traveler never came to humanity then there wouldn't have been a genoci...
nah it would have happened eventually
lol
crystal forum
ah
arctic talon
Humanity was on the hives warpath
rose thorn
What year was he revealed?
arctic talon
The Witness?
rose thorn
Yeah
vagrant fox
so if the traveler never came to humanity then there wouldn't have been a genoci...
The hive wiped out galaxies for the shits, as per their philosophy
arctic talon
They're from The Witch Queen
late osprey
and also humanity would've just never reached the civilization it did
late osprey
no rasputin, no revive
arctic talon
they'd be another footnote in the hives glorious history lol
rose thorn
Yeha that sounds like a 2017 villain
arctic talon
Tbh
The Witness is consistent
with like
the whole idea of what the users of the Darkness embody
rose thorn
The Witness is consistent
Surprisingly rare
crystal forum
can humanity stop the hive which sounds like the most generic sci fi faction ever
arctic talon
Might makes right, the end of things
The hive isn't their actual name
tbf lol
its what humanity calls them
arctic talon
can humanity stop the hive which sounds like the most generic sci fi faction eve...
ehhh yes? sorta?
theyr'e severely weakened and fractured now
they're not one cohesive thing anymore
they used to be
crystal forum
also does the game take place in the solar system
arctic talon
yes
crystal forum
only?
plush mason
vagrant fox
Yea, Sol's the most important place of ever for some reason
arctic talon
Yea, Sol's the most important place of ever for some reason
well the fucking traveler is here
the hive hate it
its the fallens god
late osprey
also some of the hive planets you go to i think are outside of the solar system
plush mason
the hive are the most horror forward foe in destiny
crystal forum
arent we such special boys
arctic talon
The Cabal are here because they wanted its power + to colonize it
vagrant fox
Yeah it's more that, it could've been anywhere else and that'd be the most important place of ever
arctic talon
Well its not that humanity in particular is special
tbh
the Traveler just decided to stop running
rocky gale
Isn't the Traveller only there because we killed it when it tried to leave?
arctic talon
no
that was an in universe rumor
and what Clovis bray wanted to do
Nothing humanity has
could even scratch the traveler
vagrant fox
Nah yeah it was a rumour, people were mad when it was revealed Rasputin didn't attack the traveller iirc
arctic talon
the only factions that can actually harm the damn thing are The hive and The Witness/its disciples
crystal forum
so obvious question but why doesn't the god machine just delete the bad guys
late osprey
and what Clovis bray wanted to do
iirc that was actually also one of rasputin's plan
arctic talon
the light can create
plush mason
tbh i think the traveler stayed because it learned with the fallen that it's blessings alone wherent enough
arctic talon
the dark can unmake
crystal forum
why doesnt it create stuff that can kill the bad guys
arctic talon
iirc that was actually also one of rasputin's plan
yeah
late osprey
rocky gale
why doesnt it create stuff that can kill the bad guys
It literally made you, who kills them
crystal forum
why is what players are?
arctic talon
Yeah
vagrant fox
The guardians are very successful at stopping the baddies
arctic talon
Players are guardians who are dead people resurected by the light
devoid of memories
vagrant fox
rip Oryx
crystal forum
why did they have to be dead people
plush mason
at the end of the war with the darkness the traveler was nearly killed, so before it went dormant to heal it made the ghosts to go and find those worthy to use it's light to protect humanity
late osprey
guardians can technically do whatever they want
late osprey
hence the warlord era
crystal forum
so they chose to be resurected?
arctic talon
No
late osprey
the first thing the guardians did was start killing each other to become immortal god-kings over the remnants of humanity
rocky gale
The Ghosts choose the Guardian and are then linked
arctic talon
but they can choose what to do with their life
late osprey
until some guardians realized their true calling and fixed everything
vagrant fox
Didn't Efrideet just fuck off to live in peace
arctic talon
"A gentle city ringed in spears"
crystal forum
the first thing the guardians did was start killing each other to become immorta...
this is very funny
arctic talon
yeah Efrideed fucked off to live in peace
lol
she's busy in the astroid belt
farming potatos or some shit
crystal forum
guardians just appeared out of nowhere
crystal forum
so will every human eventually be a guardian
plush mason
**over and over again**
just shoot the little robot when you see it 5head
rocky gale
so will every human eventually be a guardian
No
plush mason
so will every human eventually be a guardian
no only a limited number of ghosts
late osprey
this is very funny
yeah theres an in-universe holiday about the Iron Lords (the good-guy guardians) getting sick of the other guardians fucking around and playing king
and beating them into submission
crystal forum
do we know who was the first guardian
vagrant fox
Guardian unhinged behaviour being canon brings me a lot of joy
plush mason
yeah theres an in-universe holiday about the Iron Lords (the good-guy guardians)...
yeah dont fuck with the dudes with wolf armor and giant axes
late osprey
they're more like ancient first-era guardians in that respect
with their antiquated armor and fighting styles
crystal forum
Guardian unhinged behaviour being canon brings me a lot of joy
do these guys dont give a fuck about dying anymore
crystal forum
sounds mental
arctic talon
you'll be back in an instant
vagrant fox
Dying is a non-issue and will be done if it's funny
arctic talon
the only fear a guardian has
is their final death
if they ever get fully cut off from the light
late osprey
i think theres a fun video thats like
arctic talon
or their ghost dies
late osprey
The Many Deaths of Zavala
arctic talon
thats the only time they truly feel fear
late osprey
let me see if i can find it
crystal forum
or their ghost dies
how does that happen
late osprey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI5poBxV_-A
yeah lmfao
rocky gale
Ghosts die quite often throughout the game tbh
arctic talon
yeah
plush mason
as a hunter main i know that many more hunter guardians have died to their own stupidity than to the enemy
rocky gale
Like there's high intensity areas where while playing you can't respawn in, that's basically the games way of saying "If you die here your ghost will get killed"
arctic talon
yeah
late osprey
i play titan and i mix between tacticool modern style
arctic talon
Or you're just cut off from enough light
late osprey
and John Destiny with the default armor
arctic talon
I like how titans have a secret passive lol
titans automatically peak over cover
if you ads
LOL
late osprey
other classes dont have that?
arctic talon
only behind rally barricade
titans can do it with any crouchable cover weirdly
which has to be some weird leftover programming stuff
late osprey
my builds entirely around maximizing dakka
the exotic chestpiece that gives ammo
the minigun
great stuff
crystal forum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI5poBxV_-A
is that the last city
arctic talon
yeah
crystal forum
so that guy saw the whole thing being built
vagrant fox
at the end yea
late osprey
yeah and the guy preaching around the campfire is the Speaker, basically the city's first leader
arctic talon
the last city on Earth
vagrant fox
Zavala is pretty old
crystal forum
the last city on Earth
looks like shit
late osprey
that cutscene is a sorta like a crash course of the city's history whic his pretty cool
vagrant fox
Are the stupid huge craters still there
crystal forum
im guessing the giant sphere is the traveler
crystal forum
it's bigger than i expected
plush mason
the power move to put the guardian's HQ right on the city's wall and right over the main land entrance is still peak imo
arctic talon
It is tbh
vagrant fox
It's a very big ball, apparently it smells minty
crystal forum
why is it sorta broken
vagrant fox
if some people are to be believed
arctic talon
why is it sorta broken
from fighting off the witness
and its forces
Theres a giant shard of it on Earth
vagrant fox
Big pieces fell off
plush mason
why is it sorta broken
the war, many parts of it where blasted off and landed around the solar system
crystal forum
so this thing is artificial presumably right
plush mason
you find some of them in game in fact
arctic talon
plush mason
ether to get new powers or to help heal the traveler
arctic talon
so this thing is artificial presumably right
ehhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe?
crystal forum
alright so no answer
arctic talon
depends on how true The Winnower and The Gardener's tale is
if it is true
then yes its artifical and made by 2 gods to settle an argument lol
plush mason
so this thing is artificial presumably right
no one knows where it came from or how it was made
arctic talon
They're still around lore wise
crystal forum
what's with people doing shit for arguments in this setting
rocky gale
Eh
arctic talon
they're in exile
rocky gale
They fled the city
arctic talon
bring them back pls
vagrant fox
what's with people doing shit for arguments in this setting
As you do to settle a debate, fuck with reality
arctic talon
what's with people doing shit for arguments in this setting
If we take unveiling at face value then 2 gods played the flower game until they got sick of one side always losing
so the Traveler was an argument against it
while the Winnoer decided to just let things happen
plush mason
After trying to start a coup
wait, the city falls to the red legion and after we get it back those idiots try to start a coup?
arctic talon
and see if the galaxy would end the same way
crystal forum
If we take unveiling at face value then 2 gods played the flower game until they...
is there any proof of actual gods in the setting
arctic talon
Yes
The Winnower is very real
same with The Gardener
The Winnower straight up talks to you
crystal forum
like reality shaping gods?
arctic talon
like reality shaping gods?
yes
crystal forum
the fucj
plush mason
wtf is that word Bungie?
crystal forum
one side creates stuff and the other side will genocide entire species
arctic talon
"Once upon a time,* a gardener and a winnower lived** together in a garden.***
- It was once before a time, because time had not yet begun.
** We did not live. We existed as principles of ontological dynamics that emerged from mathematical structures, as bodiless and inevitable as the primes.
*** It was the field of possibility that prefigured existence."
crystal forum
the sci fi drivel is annoying
arctic talon
wtf is that word Bungie?
A winnower is a person or a device used for winnowing, which is the process of separating grain from chaff or impurities using wind or a forced current of air. It can also refer to a metaphorical act of separating the desirable from the undesirable.
tldr the Gardener and Winnower had a big garden
(maybe the black garden)
The gardener got sick of losing the board game they played all the time
crystal forum
lol
crystal forum
you know the end of spawn
plush mason
A winnower is a person or a device used for winnowing, which is the process of s...
neat
crystal forum
where God and the devil are both revealed to be petty brothers who created humanity just to fight eachother
im getting that vibe
arctic talon
As the Gardener and Winnowerplayed the flower game, a particular self-sustaining pattern would always emerge which ended up dominating the entire game. The Winnower found this to be a pleasing outcome, but the Gardener was irritated by it, desiring that the game produce endless novel patterns instead. In order to achieve their desired result, the Gardener made itself into a new rule within the game that would promote diversity and complexity; the Winnower did the same, becoming a rule that enforced simplicity.
plush mason
(maybe the black garden)
that would make the vex even more important, so i hope it is
plush mason
i love the vex
arctic talon
that always won before the Gardener and Winnower intervened
which yeah tracks
because the vex absolutely fucking destroy anything that isn't paracausal lol
vagrant fox
They're little rascals aren't they
crystal forum
As the Gardener and Winnowerplayed the flower game, a particular self-sustaining...
this legit sounds like a pathetic way to explain why one side is comedically evil
vagrant fox
I kind of almost miss Asher Mir
arctic talon
well the Winnower isn't comedically evil
vagrant fox
A god ball decided to interfere with humanity is what they did
arctic talon
they just belive in Might = right
they're not malicous
They give their power freely to anyone who can willingly take it
arctic talon
thats why Guardians can use The darkness
plush mason
beliving they could win
storm jungle
wtf did humans do
Have you looked outside your window
arctic talon
they willingly took it in
storm jungle
arctic talon
to use it lol
storm jungle
also remember when ultron accessed the entire internet for 10s and decided the human race must be exterminated?
Most realistic part of the movie LOL
vagrant fox
Dredgen Yor wins again 🗣️
crystal forum
that will teach humans not to listen to the god ball
arctic talon
"It always ends the same," the gardener complained. "This one stupid pattern!"
Aren't they beautiful? I asked, as the flowers opened and closed in patterns beyond the scope of entire universes to encode, all-devouring and perhaps everlasting. Not even we could know whether a pattern in the flowers would cycle forever, or someday halt.
"They're as dull as carbon monoxide poisoning," the gardener groused, although carbon monoxide did not yet exist, and neither did anything that could be poisoned. The gardener kneeled to flick a patch of sod with their trowel. It struck an open flower, causing it to shut. Although I was the closer of flowers and that was my sole purpose, I felt no fear or jealousy. We had our assigned dominions and always would.
They're majestic, I said. They have no purpose except to subsume all other purposes. There is nothing at the center of them except the will to go on existing, to alter the game to suit their existence. They spare not one sliver of their totality for any other work. They are the end.
The pattern corrected the errant flower effortlessly. The great flow went on unchanged.
The gardener got up and brushed their knees. "Every game we play, this one pattern consumes all the others. Wipes out every interesting development. A stupid, boring exploit that cuts off entire possibility spaces from ever arising. There's so much that we'll never get to see because of this… pest."
They chewed at their cracked lip, which existed only because this is an allegory. "I'm going to do something about it," they said. "We need a new rule."
plush mason
they willingly took it in
Zavala having a mild heart attack when that happened
arctic talon
I mean yeah
as far as most people were concerned
the darkness was mega satan
and wanted to kill everything lol
The Winnower has only talked to 2 people directly ever
Oryx and The Guardian
And both of times it just says do whatever the hell you want essentially
storm jungle
Zavala having a mild heart attack when that happened
still cannot believe Lance Reddick is gone man
crystal forum
"It always ends the same," the gardener complained. "This one stupid pattern!"
...
i do like at the end the narrator just says that none of this happened this way
because gods
dapper gyro
still cannot believe Lance Reddick is gone man
His "Mr. Wick" line is more iconic for that franchise than anyone else.
crystal forum
still cannot believe Lance Reddick is gone man
i wish i was lavar burton
vagrant fox
The Hive are rascals, but man I love them. Except for Nokris
they look so comically evil at times
plush mason
the hive give me ptsd
crystal forum
so all these guys do is kill
plush mason
all those dark caves and evil sounds
crystal forum
very fun
arctic talon
The Lucent hive are more diverse culture wise
but the hive as a whole worship death lol
killing is love
love is killing
vagrant fox
They live by a feudal kill attribute system
crystal forum
why do they not fuck off from the milky way
plush mason
they worship death gods that are little worm things
vagrant fox
tithe your kills to your boss who tithes to their boss
crystal forum
and leave humanity alone
vagrant fox
It's just not what they do after they got larvae infested
storm jungle
The Hive are rascals, but man I love them. Except for Nokris
the Hive are like
one of the most metal sci-fi races ever
crystal forum
sounds like nids with extra steps
storm jungle
"sword logic" alone is peak lore
storm jungle
sounds like nids with extra steps
they are way more complex than that
the insectoid angle is not even that similiar
plush mason
sounds like nids with extra steps
they have killed whole galaxies afaik
storm jungle
Lmao god damn it
vagrant fox
I love their evil architecture
storm jungle
I love their evil architecture
I love how its like uhhh
wraithbone mixed with geiger + gothic
super fucking cool
Savathune's flagship is literally the fucking space jockey vessel from Alien lol
plush mason
i want to love the hive, then i remember my first mission fighting them and nope
rocky gale
Savathûn!!!!!!!!
vagrant fox
I solod Pit of Heresy just to stop and smell the roses on the way
storm jungle
Savamommy gang RISE UP
vagrant fox
greatest time of my life
crystal forum
Savathûn!!!!!!!!
is that a hive guardian
plush mason
i did not expect the game to go from FPS powerfantasy to dark horror survival like that
nocturne crest
I should finish the last destiny episode.
arctic talon
is that a hive guardian
Yes
crystal forum
why
crystal forum
god fucking damn it
rocky gale
Because Savathûn is based
crystal forum
this traveler guy isn't the smartest tool in the shed is he
arctic talon
They still have the same skewed morality
plush mason
didnt the witch queen still the idea for ghosts when she infultrated the guardians?
vagrant fox
My friendliest boys, I love them
arctic talon
didnt the witch queen still the idea for ghosts when she infultrated the guardia...
No
rocky gale
Been a while since I played, is Eris Morn still around?
arctic talon
Yeah she got fucking impaled
crystal forum
so these guys are unkillable death machines that want to wipe out all life
vagrant fox
Did she hijack a throne world or something
arctic talon
She made one herself
For herself
While she was uh
Doing some stuff a while ago
When we turned her partially into a hive god
And fed her a ton of tribute
arctic talon
so these guys are unkillable death machines that want to wipe out all life
Well not the lucent hive
They’re not genocidal
plush mason
tbh i know like nothing about eris morn
plush mason
only that she is strange and lives on the moon
plush mason
with the witness dead wtf happens now?
arctic talon
The Dread and Taken may have made a new god
storm jungle
is the hive the main threat
i think uh
arctic talon
with the witness dead wtf happens now?
The witness still has The Dread trying to enact shit
And the hive are a threat still
storm jungle
Destiny does the warhammer thing where its a "villain of the week"
or in this case Season
arctic talon
And the taken may have formed a new god
storm jungle
but they set it up in earlier expansions or whatever
crystal forum
Destiny does the warhammer thing where its a "villain of the week"
ah
arctic talon
That’s not a joke
They actually made a thing
In the ascendent plane
Is it a God who the hell knows
Also the vex are still an issue
Lol
plush mason
And the taken may have formed a new god
oh good i have missed kicking the taken king's ass
arctic talon
oh good i have missed kicking the taken king's ass
Well oryx was back this season sort of
A fragmented memory of Oryx
plush mason
its not the same though
vagrant fox
I don't recall, did Mara Sov steal our throneworld or not after the whole Oryx thing
arctic talon
But he does want us to properly take the throne
arctic talon
I don't recall, did Mara Sov steal our throneworld or not after the whole Oryx t...
She stole part of Oryx’s
rocky gale
tbh i know like nothing about eris morn
The main thing I remember about Eris Morn is that when she was first added to the game I was playing with friends and trying to find eachother on the map and one of them said "Yea I'm just standing here next to..... Eris's Mom... who's Eris and why's her mom here?"
and it stuck with me
jade holly
Taken King is still peak Destiny imo
vagrant fox
She stole part of Oryx’s
Wasn't it technically ours by conquest, it's fuzzy to me
plush mason
Taken King is still peak Destiny imo
it really is
arctic talon
Wasn't it technically ours by conquest, it's fuzzy to me
Yeah
plush mason
red war is close imo
rocky gale
So she's Eris's Mom
arctic talon
Oryx’s echo gave us the keys essentially
To the throne world
We are the defacto ruler now
One
Tiny tiny tiny issue
Is that the dreadnought is infested with hive, taken and dread
All of whom do not recognize our claim lol
crystal forum
just kill them
jade holly
red war is close imo
He-He-HELL NAH
crystal forum
that's the whole point of this trash
crystal forum
i love obstacles meant to increase tension while repeating the same gameplay loop (darktide)
rocky gale
Unfortunately "Just kill all the Hive" is like telling someone to just kill all the ants on Earth
crystal forum
cant the traveler create a supergiant black hole and kill them all
vagrant fox
You just need to find a baddie like In Anânh
arctic talon
This entire season has been mostly proving our claim to the dreadnought to Oryx's echo
crystal forum
most problems can be solved with black hole
crystal forum
supergiant ones?
arctic talon
No
crystal forum
there's the issue
arctic talon
that would require a lot of energy to maintain
crystal forum
get the traveler to do it
crystal forum
what a bitch
vagrant fox
Act like the titan you are, punch things to death
crystal forum
not a destroyer
nothing is destroyed in a black hole though
arctic talon
plush mason
I remember playing Destiny 2 on release, loved the Red War
same
crystal forum
it is only changed
rocky gale
Act like the titan you are, punch things to death
Warlock supremacy
storm jungle
same
I STILL have that red/white starter titan armor, that thing is a literal relic now
arctic talon
its so good
lol
I love the parade armor so much
its goofy ceremonial
but it like just makes sense lol
crystal forum
I STILL have that red/white starter titan armor, that thing is a literal relic n...
old person
vagrant fox
I still have the starting pistol on my titan
vagrant fox
Hunters are always such fruits
crystal forum
wannabe anime
arctic talon
the destiny 2 original parade armor
vagrant fox
Warlock supremacy
I learnt to respect warlocks, considering hunters made up 60% of my clan
arctic talon
lol
well
moment
Also real quote from a real Warlock in destiny
"Now step aside," he continued. "We have to meditate on the nature of un-being before getting drunk tonight."
crystal forum
so is there an afterlife in destiny
wait why am i still asking questions i dont care
rocky gale
Loved my Wings of Sacred Dawn builds
vagrant fox
you'll have your destiny lore and you'll enjoy it
arctic talon
vagrant fox
This stupid helmet was my everything, it helped that it was good
crystal forum
i have never met a destiny player who didn't make it their entire personality
it's like the only thing a person plays if that's what they're into
maybe that was just during playstation era
vagrant fox
It was a good time
arctic talon
i have never met a destiny player who didn't make it their entire personality
MMO moment
crystal forum
MMO moment
this is true
there's MMO players and there's regular gamers
the two will rarely overlap
vagrant fox
It is what it is, War Thunderers leak sensitive documents and all that
crystal forum
that's not an MMO
vagrant fox
or is it
crystal forum
it's a team based tank game
team being a shady method for gaijin to halve your win loss rates because they know most players are smooth brained and carrying a team is impossible
vagrant fox
But you know, that type of gamer
vagrant fox
I didn't even get mad at my teammates in War Thunder, it was the CAS
I love being helpless and unable to fight back
crystal forum
I love being helpless and unable to fight back
CAS is another way to kneecap good players. kill a shitter and they'll spawn in a plane to kill you, somebody will if you kill them
the more you kill the more it will happen
it's all an intentional system to make you not as good as you could be
trust me i got many hours i did research
vagrant fox
I played an unfortunate 1.3k hours, what a waste
I should've spent another 1.3k hours on Destiny instead
crystal forum
i should have have spent my 2k+ hours watching porn
would have been more productive
vagrant fox
Watching paint dry probably would be
At least I got my french tanks that I wanted if nothing else
crystal forum
french tanks are either the worst piece of shit ever made or the quirkiest tank you'll love using
i love their light tanks
autoloaders everywhere
gentle tree
are the psykers we play as blind in the mortal sense or no?
vagrant fox
M4A1 FL10 and AMX 30 my most beloveds
vagrant fox
are the psykers we play as blind in the mortal sense or no?
I wouldn't say so, they seem to see just fine
vagrant fox
AMX 50 was just plain fun, just keep shooting
rose thorn
for my next attempt to write a knight hosue i think ill go the opposite direction and make traditions and stuff first
doing another attempt because i jsut wanan make somehting better
why am i like this
arctic talon
are the psykers we play as blind in the mortal sense or no?
some of them can be
but the ingame ones nah
they have normal eyes
crystal forum
just use lgbt words and see if anybody notices
rose thorn
"hey jay why does all of your lore end with sexual"
crystal forum
house twospirit
rose thorn
oh i dated a twospirited perosn
crystal forum
awesome
rose thorn
very
i think i want my knight house to beon a death world
and have their trial be 'go fucking survive wihtout any support'
given a sword, armor and dont come back til your sword is snapped in half
nwo what is the worst possible ecosystem to live in
crystal forum
tribal world
arctic talon
You wanted a death world right
rose thorn
yea
crystal forum
that could be overkill
vagrant fox
Cold and damp just sucks the life out of you
rose thorn
its werid because the space marines have used the far polar horribel planets
crystal forum
there's also plain ass dead worlds with only the bare essentials for supporting life
mostly rock
rose thorn
Awful archipelago world
gonna note that
rose thorn
lmao
arctic talon
Like
crystal forum
i think we all heard of catachan
rose thorn
its really wierd that most of the mostly water planets in 40k only have 1 big island
rose thorn
its etither that or like, swamp hell
arctic talon
its really wierd that most of the mostly water planets in 40k only have 1 big is...
Sci fi worldbuilding moment
crystal forum
its really wierd that most of the mostly water planets in 40k only have 1 big is...
that's because planets can only have 1 important city since it would require too much world building
arctic talon
Lol
vagrant fox
Surviving in the amazon seems like hell
arctic talon
Swamp hell is fun
rose thorn
LMAO
crystal forum
Surviving in the amazon seems like hell
yeah those warehouses are death traps
arctic talon
that's because planets can only have 1 important city since it would require too...
Baal secundus has like 3 big cities okay
Selltown, angels fall and uh
That one I forgot about
crystal forum
Baal secundus has like 3 big cities okay
one of the most important planets in the lore
vagrant fox
yeah those warehouses are death traps
The Big Bezos stalking you through the racks of wares
arctic talon
one of the most important planets in the lore
Nah
Baal secundus doesn’t matter that much
rose thorn
whats that inbetween of a jungle and a swamp?
arctic talon
Mars also has a ton of named cities
arctic talon
whats that inbetween of a jungle and a swamp?
Morass?
crystal forum
there's armageddon which is the classic industrial hellscape with good amount of world building
we know most of the planet
rose thorn
maybe? its the one that got a biome in minecraft recently
vagrant fox
Swamp has a high water table, at or above ground level in areas
rose thorn
oh ic an just google mangrove
crystal forum
swamps are objectively ass
everything is trying to kill you
and you are always wet
rose thorn
yeah but knights are utter ass in jungles
arctic talon
Well
rose thorn
i mean
arctic talon
Make it their speciality
rose thorn
swams
nocturne crest
I wish Warthunder didn't run like ass on steam.
rose thorn
swamps*
rose thorn
same reason you cant have space marines in a swamp except bigger
crystal forum
they could use a lot of chainsword type weapons to clear jungles
rose thorn
my favorite thing ive ever read was space marines drowning in mud
crystal forum
like giant power machetes
crystal forum
knights are big enough where they just hit bedrock
before sinking too far to damage them
rose thorn
Awful archipelago world
maybe archipelago world that goes between god awful flooding and insane droughts
crystal forum
tsunamis
vagrant fox
They could have mechanicus approved™ wide feetsies to spread out the ground pressure