you can have all sorts of wacky outfits
#40k-lore-chat
crystal forum
arctic talon
Guard is the most homebrewable faction
Lol
Take any infantry models from any heroic scale wargaming system
Give them a gun
That’s a fuckin guardsmen
Those napoleonic dudes? Yeah those are lasguns
The weird sci-fi fuckers you got from an eBay lot
Those are guardsmen
crystal forum
the best part is it will look awesome no matter how wacky
storm jungle
Cadians in-universe and on tabletop are like Agent Smith from the Matrix
arctic talon
Lol
storm jungle
Random No-Name Regiment: Hey thanks for helping us Cadian Shock Troo- HUEGH
Cadian in question:
Assimilated
ENJOY YOUR GENERIC RE-COLORED CADIAN ARMY
storm jungle
lmfao god
crystal forum
every cadian kitbash regiment
tough haven
ENJOY YOUR GENERIC RE-COLORED CADIAN ARMY
You can’t stop me!!!
storm jungle
like I HATE how the agent smith thing is not even a joke anymore
storm jungle
they LITERALLY assimilate everyone
crystal forum
Cadian armor is the munitorum standard
i love that warhammer community post of custom kitbash regiments before krieg came out that was just different colours of cadian
red cadian, blue cadian
arctic talon
Those were
Official regiments tbf
They use cadian armor
They had one for more diffrent ones
Like ventrillians, indigans, Ect.
tough haven
they LITERALLY assimilate everyone
I WILL be using the 54th Noncanion Dipshits, and you can’t stop me
crystal forum
it's so lame lol if i want that type of kitbash i'd make a space marine chapter
arctic talon
Well
Again
It’s munitorum standard
CURSE OF MOEBIAN 21st
I like the basic guardsmen armor look
Tbh
crystal forum
ok true
tough haven
Btw, is there a farsight enclaves killteam?
crystal forum
Btw, is there a farsight enclaves killteam?
probably one day
crystal forum
when they cycle out pathfinders
crystal forum
Or you can run fire warriors as kasrkin
is that not haram as fuck
arctic talon
I mean who gives a shit
If you got the right base size and operatives are distinct
I don’t mind and neither do most people
People run deathwatch as csm legionaries lol
tough haven
Just run pathfinders
I can probably just recolor them on tts
I like kill team cause I think smaller scale conflicts are overlooked in 40K
They can be as if not more impactful than large scale
median star
wonder if they ever floated the idea of base human version of deathwatch
arctic talon
Thats just Ordo xenos
spring cairn
darktide rejects
storm jungle
Deathwatch are literally just a spec ops team
the only thing that makes them special is their black armor/silver pauldron aesthetic
otherwise you can fit out any Inquisition human kill-team with the shit they use or even more exotic stuff
only depends on budget which is nothing if the Inquisitor master they have has endless pockets and connections lol
median star
also how does inquisitors power work when starting off do they get payed is someone like ok youve got 100 guys make something out of this or whats the deal
arctic talon
also how does inquisitors power work when starting off do they get payed is some...
They can acquire assets
Via theft, threatening or legal means
Lol
sacred ginkgo
Get some blackmail on a noble and then run all your assets through their treasury while you get started
storm jungle
^
its literally Mafia City
Do missions
Get/Meet contacts
Set up your powerbase
crystal forum
it's official
as i discussed yesterday
W for auspextactics server
rare moment where a mod team asked the community and stuck with the answer
dapper gyro
Having multiple guard regiments working together is more common than it seems.
Even deploying elite troops together.
Like, the guards are dismantled after HH to make them more specialized, so by nature they are not rounded. The scions are mission specific deployment, they are not the jack of all trade.
late osprey
also how does inquisitors power work when starting off do they get payed is some...
imagine you have a credit card with Infinity money on it and 0% APR (inquisitorial rosette) and if someone refuses to take it you can just shoot them and nobody will stop or punish you
with that in mind it gets very easy to get stuff very quickly
tough haven
imagine you have a credit card with Infinity money on it and 0% APR (inquisitori...
Unless it’s a rogue trader, then things get more complicated
Cause they also have a Emperor’s Own™️ credit card
And maybe as many guns as you do
late osprey
yeah LOL
they just trade Emperor-Pattern Credit Cards
at that point its just if you can appeal to the rogue trader's inherently psychotic nature
"you know if you kill those heretics you can take their money"
rogue traders, of course, not understanding that infinity + 1 is still infinity
wintry scarab
How do most marine chapters view cannibalism? Is it the same as most worlds or is it more normalized?
vagrant fox
It's on the more normalized side for space marines, what with having an entire organ dedicated to making it useful
It usually just happens to eat a bit of brain or whatever to gain some knowledge, but some take it way further like the Mortifactors
storm jungle
Yeah if its like full on flesh-eating they will treat you like monsters lol
the brain eating is a one-bite and done deal, most Chapters never even bother with it but thats largely due to plot reasons.
storm jungle
Chapters like the Flesh Eaters literally HATE how people tihnk they are cannibals
and im like why the fuck did you pick that name then???
💀
rose thorn
what about the flesh golems!
storm jungle
my favorite chapter...
arctic talon
Chapters like the Flesh Eaters literally **HATE** how people tihnk they are cann...
i mean they are cannibals
tbf
rose thorn
i cant even find a fucking lex page of them
vagrant fox
Flesh Tearers have a tendency towards it but they go full red thirst so you can't blame them
arctic talon
the flesh eaters do just have ritualized cannibalism lol
rose thorn
you fucking can lmao
storm jungle
i mean they are cannibals
Are they?
rose thorn
if an elephant tramples someone that elephant executed
rose thorn
if your father gets his neck torn out by a guy because he was hungry
storm jungle
I searched across also like so many forums
rose thorn
you can porbably blame the guy
storm jungle
Yeah the stuff I read just leaves it at "its a controversial accusation they dont like"
arctic talon
Its in the privacy of their fortress monestary
storm jungle
which is weird
arctic talon
well yeah they don't like it because its true
LOL
they don't chow on loyal imperial citizens
storm jungle
Lmao STFU
vagrant fox
It's a matter of honour ok it's very machismo important
arctic talon
its like the Libators drinking blood
storm jungle
they chow on their dead brothers
WHERE is this written
I need a source for the future
arctic talon
Ultramarine successor with a cup
Their gimmick is they skin people alive and drink blood
vagrant fox
you can porbably blame the guy
It's just their nature though they're just little guys
vagrant fox
now check the 9th ed
storm jungle
its in the 7e or 8e BA codex iirc
Nothing on 7th either
storm jungle
KEK
arctic talon
I must have eaten the misinfo pill
rose thorn
Their gimmick is they skin people alive and drink blood
noooo
storm jungle
🙏
rose thorn
this is my favorite chapter
storm jungle
the worst part is I legit asked people and they give the most unsatisfying stupid answers
vagrant fox
16 gigatonnes is a shitton, what're they doing man
rose thorn
they drain all of their blood as sacrifice to guilliman and the codex
rose thorn
but htey do put it in a cup
vagrant fox
Mortifactors are on the funny side
storm jungle
16 gigatonnes is a shitton, what're they doing man
Lmfao
I love that passage
spending all that shit to keep that ship there
its so funny
vagrant fox
Very imperial to pay that much for nothing, it's based and coolpilled
spare osprey
kinda just imagining like
meat golems
that their pyskers bring to life
some llamas in hats bullshit
rose thorn
i take gore golems as like
'were fucking abominations of science'
'a sin that must be commited to save humanity'
@storm jungle i forgot if you said you made homebrew lore for the gore golems or not
rose thorn
why are 90% of imaginary warhammer posters labotimites
vagrant fox
https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarhammer/comments/1k2qu31/who_is_this_some_ki...
It happens weirdly often
They're probably lobotomites because they overlap a lot with grimdank
sudden compass
Who?
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> i forgot if you said you made homebrew lore for the gore g...
Nah my thing with the gore golems is they got a goofy ass supervillain name and them having zero lore is funny, I got my own custom Chapter
rose thorn
Nah my thing with the gore golems is they got a goofy ass supervillain name and ...
lmao fair
rose thorn
the goofy ass supervillain name makes me want to get some art of them
if we get offical art, they are probably red with black trim and their symbol is a skull or something
spare osprey
Nah my thing with the gore golems is they got a goofy ass supervillain name and ...
do tell
arctic talon
if we get offical art, they are probably red with black trim and their symbol is...
Watch them be like pink and yellow or something
rose thorn
Lmao
nocturne crest
So awful question time. If GW ever allowed to return Horus to the 40k setting as a loyalist Primarch in exchange for one loyalist Primarch to fall to chaos, would you pick and why?
rose thorn
if it means anything to you, gw confirmed like a decade ago all of the primarchs are coming back eventually
nocturne crest
https://tenor.com/view/warframe-koumei-warframe-koumei-gambling-gif-615756361410...
plush mason
https://tenor.com/view/warframe-koumei-warframe-koumei-gambling-gif-615756361410...
lol the volt and grendal standing there like hitmen
nocturne crest
if it means anything to you, gw confirmed like a decade ago all of the primarchs...
Right, but Horus isn't coming back as a loyalist.
arctic talon
if it means anything to you, gw confirmed like a decade ago all of the primarchs...
They didn't
thats just people assuming
rose thorn
oh
plush mason
imo its a safe bet all the living ones are coming back though
which may or may not include Dorn
arctic talon
I know at least 3 IF fans who want Dorn to be dead lol
rose thorn
after leman
plush mason
iirc he was dead
rose thorn
gulliman is probably the next primarch
hes gonna be back and be REALLY into the black templars probably
plush mason
they had his whole skeleton entombed in amber on the phalanx
that got retconned into just his hand
rose thorn
yeah lmao
nocturne crest
I could maybe see Corax turning traitor based on the current state of the imperium.
vagrant fox
Ferrus Manus why not
rose thorn
its russ, dorn, then probably sanguin or a character to fill his role
this update basically confirms russ is coming
i think i finished the knight house's culture section
hey whats different between chaos cultists in the black legion compared to any other legion?
do they have anythign special going on
vagrant fox
Big fan of this, fuck up enough and you'll pull a space hulk into orbit
arctic talon
hey whats different between chaos cultists in the black legion compared to any o...
Depends on their competence, higher ranking cultists get treated better. ultimately the black legion are astartes supremacists
so even the highest ranking Cultists and traitor mortals
are seen as lesser then the high ranking CSM
sacred bluff
Say i wanted an angron figure but i wanted pros to paint it for me
is that a thing?
rose thorn
Depends on their competence, higher ranking cultists get treated better. ultimat...
are they generally more militaristic?
also i think i finished my planet's lore
its a paragraph long if anyone wants to do a lore check
rose thorn
Depends on their competence, higher ranking cultists get treated better. ultimat...
is there any mroe common ideologies among them?
arctic talon
are they generally more militaristic?
generally speaking it depends,, there's a lot of traitor guard among them
arctic talon
is there any mroe common ideologies among them?
Might makes right, meritocracy stuff
rose thorn
fair
arctic talon
some cultists have weird obsessions with the marines they serve under
some cultists have marines under their command due to the fact they're well respected/highly competent
ect.
rose thorn
very happy with my house's lore im suprised how easily it flew
my only lore concern is the planet itself and of course it's part in the horus heresy
nocturne crest
Ferrus Manus why not
Ferrus Manus, but he becomes the Primarch of the death watch.
glossy sonnet
what
rose thorn
hes like the most dead out of all the primarchs
there is not any primarch MORE dead than him
vagrant fox
Besides the two weirdos
rose thorn
oh yeah of course
vagrant fox
Iron Hands have Ferrus' skull and most of the body skeleton, they can rebuild him
nocturne crest
what
If they bring Ferrus back, he should abandoned his legion for the tech heresy.
glossy sonnet
Fabius rebuilt him like 10 times
nocturne crest
He kept forgetting the hands.
glossy sonnet
or clone him
nocturne crest
Ferrus comes back, but he gives up on redeeming his legion.
glossy sonnet
Ferrus comes back but he dies again to celebrate fulgrims return to the setting
rose thorn
Ferrus Manus, but he becomes the Primarch of the death watch.
if they do return him id actually prefer this tbf
out of shame he abandons his legion and just works with the ordo xenos instead
glossy sonnet
He should come back in the Legion of the Damned
rose thorn
the writer of the legion of the damned lore was interviewed and wished they came up with that idea lmao
i think she mentioned she read about that idea online and confirmed she never wrote that but that it was an amazing idea
vagrant fox
arctic talon
The ferrus LOTD stuff
was people taking what abnett wrote about the emperors psychic attack
and then saying it was the LOTD
vagrant fox
I don't think he'd like modern Iron Hands
arctic talon
which isn't the case
arctic talon
I don't think he'd like modern Iron Hands
Yeah he didn't like the Iron hands back then either lol
to say they had a bad relationship is an understatement lol
I think Ferrus was the only primarch who regularly got in shouting matches with his Sons lol
They had some big disagreements on philosphy lol
glossy sonnet
Better than killing them
arctic talon
and then when ferrus died the IH went off the deep end and started dropping moons on people
lol
not a joke btw
nocturne crest
What about making Ferus a primarch character for the inquisition?
arctic talon
they dropped a moon on the world eaters
nocturne crest
Love my red talons.
vagrant fox
Valid and fair reaction
arctic talon
What about making Ferus a primarch character for the inquisition?
ferrus is dead as hell
same with Sang, horus and curze
nocturne crest
Too emotionally angry for the IH.
glossy sonnet
They should stay that way
glossy sonnet
Omegon is cypher!!!!!
vagrant fox
They should stay dead but I'm not going to be surprised if/when they return in some way
nocturne crest
So are fallen angels as a thing in csm over now?
vagrant fox
Nah some are just full chaos
rose thorn
So are fallen angels as a thing in csm over now?
they died in 9th as a stat sheet
arctic talon
So are fallen angels as a thing in csm over now?
no
rose thorn
i
rose thorn
LMAO
arctic talon
They were the most half assed thing ever
rose thorn
i forgot where cypher lives
rose thorn
i think hes still in csm
rose thorn
his stat sheet i mean
arctic talon
now he's CSM codex only
arctic talon
but Cypher isn't chaos corrupted
unlike some other famous Fallen
there's a Fallen whos a daemon prince of khorne
nocturne crest
There are some fallen angels concepts I liked.
arctic talon
and another Fallen on Abbadons war council
who is still alive btw
And loves killing Dark Angels
LOL
nocturne crest
One being that daemon Prince with a lion for a head
vagrant fox
What's the plague marine fallen called again
glossy sonnet
I liked astelan
arctic talon
like this fallen dude is obviously part of the black legion lol
arctic talon
What's the plague marine fallen called again
he wasn't a fallen he was a modern day traitor
the DA just laughed at him and killed him lol
arctic talon
from the 6e codex but yeah
some Fallen are traitorous as hell now lol
and then there's also this dude
but yeah Fallen vary wildly
nocturne crest
So just double checking, the fallen only applies to traitor space marines that destroyed Caliban?
arctic talon
The term the fallen applies exclusively to the marines on caliban before it blew up
aka over half the legion
glossy sonnet
like this fallen dude is obviously part of the black legion lol
I thought black legion members get rid of their own heraldry
raven stone
And if we get into the Horus Heresy details…
nocturne crest
For example, there is the hounds of Abby.
nocturne crest
Well, some of them are risen now.
arctic talon
Yes
There was a civil war brewing on Caliban already
when The Lion was coming back
the Fallen were totally disunified as a force even back then
Some were still loyal to the lion, some wanted to kill him, some wanted to secede from the Imperium but were still loyal to the lion, some wanted to embrace chaos, ect.
raven stone
What Dark Angels collectively call The Fallen are actually, well, a massively disparate group.
The only commonality was that they did not like to be on the side to Lionel Johnson back in the days.
Some only wanted independence from the Imperium.
Some were actually knee deep in Chaos.
Some were loyal to the Imperium but were lied to and thought Lion might have gone crazy…
Yea basically the above.
So the reason why Dark Angels are so obsessed with hunting The Fallen, in a sense, they are literally hunting for pieces of their own history.
raven stone
I remember way back in 3rd edition they allowed Guard Codex to take Cypher.
That was interesting.
dapper gyro
Those fallen DA are just blackshield marines.
glossy sonnet
I see cypher being a character that can be played on both sides
Perhaps swapping over time
Very unique
rose thorn
tbf i like fallen, they make good 'inbetween chaos and not' stat sheets
but they needed to be erriatcated lmao
dapper gyro
DA is not the only one with black shield people.
rose thorn
one of the most importnat balck shields was a WE
surpsied the WEs didnt have more deserters
dapper gyro
DA is too autistic so they group anyone who is not loyal with the imperium up as traitor.
dapper gyro
The largest group of black shield is RG successor. Apparently, the RG does know their location, but they don't mind too much about it.
vagrant fox
surpsied the WEs didnt have more deserters
99% of the WE loyalists were killed on Istvan, alas
rose thorn
yeah but htey had a fucking while to leave
DG had alot of deserters
probably because they didnt like
get a choice
to betray the imperium
i think iron warriors had a good amount of deserters too
dapper gyro
DA is the special case because it takes time to sort out who is who. To be fair, it is an issue with the leadership during HH.
rose thorn
The largest group of black shield is RG successor. Apparently, the RG does know ...
oh the psycho murderer space pirate ones?
dapper gyro
Yes, though they are very cautious about their action, much like the RG, and they know that their location is not a secret so they can't go too crazy.
vagrant fox
yeah but htey had a fucking while to leave
Before Istvaan 3 you mean?
rose thorn
yeah
arctic talon
surpsied the WEs didnt have more deserters
all their predation fleets generally went rogue
arctic talon
The largest group of black shield is RG successor. Apparently, the RG does know ...
tbh the ashen claws aren't that horrifying
they're also one of 2 blackshield groups we know of
that survived to 40k
Ashen Claws stayed(mostly) loyal but are renegades and operate outside of imperial authority
dapper gyro
They are not, but still the biggest one non chaos aligned.
rose thorn
LMAO
arctic talon
went off the deepend lol
rose thorn
REALLY?
dapper gyro
Those guys are in a few hundred, Ashen Claws is still around thousands.
rose thorn
the best of spcae wolf lore
rose thorn
i didnt realize they were a blackshield first lmao
arctic talon
"One much-suppressed example of a larger Shattered Legions formation was the host of Cadre captain Skyrar, a hybrid force of his own Sons of Horus chapter and the survivors of the Space Wolves' mauled 6th Great Company. Originally sworn to the service of the Warmaster and bearing his Serpent's Eye, this warband butchered Neo Cadiz and its surrounding systems in the opening stages of the Horus Heresy, supposedly tasked with bringing so called 'Dark Compliance' to the westernmost fringes of the Imperium but given wholly to reaving and slaughter by the time the Traitors were amassing around Terra, refusing all attempts at recall."
vagrant fox
yeah
I don't think they had much of a choice, being stuck in the fleets with the rest of the WE. If they betrayed first and they would just be traitors
rose thorn
obviously the new post labotamy WE didnt have a choice
arctic talon
I mean
they did
ironically
the WE had the highest purge number
just behing the EC
rose thorn
LOL
arctic talon
there's some irony to that yes
rose thorn
1k sons were all forced into the same boat, i cant htink of any rogue 1k sons
vagrant fox
Yeah they hated Angron, but they were loyal to a fault until they were betrayed
rose thorn
the pre and post primarch 1k sons blended really well too
probably ebcasue there was only 1k of htem
dapper gyro
WE is the highest primarch dislike ratio.
It makes sense that many of them flow off.
rose thorn
id think raven guards would liek to argue otherwise
most of the old guys getting put into sucicide squads
most if not all
dapper gyro
RG have problem, but they are still very diplomatic about it.
arctic talon
the salamander blackshields
had some funny stuff happened
the biggest group got declared traitor
and exterminated
rose thorn
oh and half of white scars and the best of the DAs
rose thorn
the salamander blackshields
OOO?
arctic talon
they were doing something
dapper gyro
most of the old guys getting put into sucicide squads
And Corax participated and spread-headed in pretty much every of those suicide runs.
dapper gyro
At the very end, it was also the terran RG decided to suicide rushed to save Corax.
arctic talon
but yeah their scheme goes hard as hell
rose thorn
and corax being trash at videogames
arctic talon
there's 0 fucking chance anyone is going to paint it
rose thorn
let me check their traitro ruels for the main game
arctic talon
for an entire like Blackshield warband lol
rose thorn
i mean for the hh game
arctic talon
oh lmao
dapper gyro
There is a reason Ashens Claws is the only black shield that's not exactly a secret to the SM organisation.
rose thorn
Redemption of Flames (Traitor only)
Turned to the service of the Warmaster, those Salamanders who abandoned their old master seek to cleanse with flame the bonds that once held them to the Emperor. On the battlefield, their zeal for their new master is made evident in the trail of ash and devastation that is left in their wake.
arctic talon
As time went on, Xiaphas Jurr began to transcribe the words of Cassian Dracos, previously recorded by individual crew members as well as the vox systems of the Ebon Drake, into a single tome. This work would later be called "The Prophecies of the Flames". Jurr himself eventually assumed the mantle of "Prophet of Fire", and his work became the creed of the Disciples of the Flames. It is known that the ideas of Dracos mirrored in some way the "schismatic" beliefs harboured by the Techpriests of Mezoa even before the Heresy. Their variant of the Machine Cult, called the "Flame Eternal", had developed due to the Forge World's long isolation, constant experience of warfare, and contacts with House Hermetika (which held "quixotic" beliefs) In addition, the Disciples of the Flames were influenced by the personal views of Jurr who re-adopted the obscure divinatory rituals of his homeworld of Proximal, resulting in many Disciples starting to use charms and repainting their armour with devotional scenes
tldr they went fucking insane lol
and started some weird proto imperial faith cult mechanicus hybrid
vagrant fox
They sound fun, they should've stuck around
rose thorn
religious insanity salamanders is quite peak
rose thorn
why is admech good allies with salamanders?
dapper gyro
Ultima founding to be exact
dapper gyro
why is admech good allies with salamanders?
They are just more level headed overall, and they both have forge worlds as base.
Both Sally and RG makes many of their own gear.
rose thorn
salamanders having more allies than ultra mariens is very upsetting
dapper gyro
They also enjoy some innovation, which is rare from Admech, but the maggots love people who appreciate their innovations.
rose thorn
also being on okay temrs wtih nls is very weird for salamadners
arctic talon
Its from Horus Heresy 2e
dapper gyro
Hmm, because I remember RG absolutely hates the NL and AL.
arctic talon
its weird
bcs its a mix of pre heresy/early heresy/late heresy
bcs GW wanted to have their cake and eat it too
when HH2e is like exclusively mid to late heresy
nocturne crest
whatever it was it freaked the rest of the loyalists out
Do you think they'll ever reveal what it was?
arctic talon
As time went on, Xiaphas Jurr began to transcribe the words of Cassian Dracos, p...
right here
dapper gyro
I can see the bit of the IG liking Sons of Horus because a big portion of them deserted to chaos with Horus.
arctic talon
the sons of horus also weren't dicks to the imperial army
nocturne crest
It's weird to think there are still loyalist guard regiments from Horus's home world in 40m.1
Sorry, M41
rose thorn
?
nocturne crest
I forgot how the dating system in 40k is written.
But yeah, still imperial guard regiments that come from the planet where Horus was found and was nuked by the dark angels being team killers.
opaque coyote
I forgot how the dating system in 40k is written.
Millennium.Year I think?
Lemme check
...okay yeah no wonder they don't know what fucking year they're in
"Where no year fraction is used, and only the year itself, it is acceptable to write the year with a backslash, for example; 987/M41."
opaque coyote
I forgot how the dating system in 40k is written.
Apparently the fraction system is basically X/1000
So the Imperial Calendar technically has 1000 "days" but they're not actually days
nocturne crest
Oh
opaque coyote
This is however
Pre-Great Rift
There's more
Guilliman, presumably getting the same headache I got after trying to figure out this shit, apparently decided to make a new system.
We don't actually know this new system.
But this has been met with a civil war inside the Ordo Chronos
It also apparently takes into account the local time
So if you think time zones here are confusing
Imagine trying to compare fucking time zones in DIFFERENT PLANETS IN DIFFERENT SOLAR SYSTEMS
nocturne crest
Pain.
opaque coyote
Pain.
And finally to actually calculate the fraction part of the Pre-Rift calendar.
Firstly you take the day of the Julian Calendar. Let's say June 18th, 2005
Then times it by 24 and add the actual hour (for example 16 hours have passed) to get the "determined hour"
And then multiply that for 0.11407955
And you get the Imperial Fraction
...
And now you know why the Administratium probably has higher suicide rates than the Imperial Guard
dapper gyro
You should
nocturne crest
So I just had a thought. If the red corsairs get a codex, they should be able to run SW units.
nocturne crest
They got a warband made of Space wolves.
spare osprey
oh these dudes
love their lore
led by a dread i think
yeah ok wow the legion's leader pre vulkan actually
paper haven
And now you know why the Administratium probably has higher suicide rates than t...
As it should be
rose thorn
Finished broken lance
The team forgot how to animate mouths
But besides that it was very very good
winter vessel
But besides that it was very very good
i can't really tell much difference with the variants. but as far as i know in terms of Patterns, we only see Armigers and Questoris patterns. no Dominus?
bold veldt
i can't really tell much difference with the variants. but as far as i know in t...
i believe so yes
😢
winter vessel
if they were to make another knight focused animation, I'd kinda hope the protagonist is a Freeblade
queen laurel
has the shade of red for the normal role changed
i don't see anything different
must be the new discord look
crystal forum
odd
median star
so is it just me or did the inquisitor from rogue trader have a piddly ass retinue for the likes of an inquisitor
like i think the only named person he has is that one assistant guy
glossy sonnet
yeah it was pretty lame
crystal forum
so is it just me or did the inquisitor from rogue trader have a piddly ass retin...
one could say he intentionally made himself appear insignificant...
queen laurel
so is it just me or did the inquisitor from rogue trader have a piddly ass retin...
considering his plan, i don't blame him
but that's about all i can tell
young pecan
arctic talon
so is it just me or did the inquisitor from rogue trader have a piddly ass retin...
He has 2 core retinue members, Aside from that he has a horde of goons
plush mason
The Maw ?
yeah its a narrow pass of stable warp in the wall of warp storms that cut off the expanse from the rest of the galaxy
its the only way into or out of the sector
queen laurel
yeah its a narrow pass of stable warp in the wall of warp storms that cut off th...
and as i mentioned
secrets
the guy is a walking pile of secrets
plush mason
yup
plush mason
so is it just me or did the inquisitor from rogue trader have a piddly ass retin...
he did bring the space wolves
so that might be part of why he didnt bring a bigger retinue
wintry scarab
Is it normal for a normal battle brother to display their company on something like their kneepad or is it more of a prestigious thing?
shadow plover
it is normal and almost expected in some chapters
storm jungle
the yellow thong goes crazy
plush mason
Is it normal for a normal battle brother to display their company on something l...
yeah the kneepad is honestly a more common place for it than the shoulder it feels like
because the shoulders normally have the chapter icon and the role icon
wintry scarab
the yellow thong goes crazy
sacred bluff
wintry scarab
Am i trippin? Space marine 2 is factually a live service game right? Ive seen people say that it isnt when i cant think of a single reason on how it isnt a live service when it gets constant MTX and content updates.
storm jungle
A live service game is a game for which a video game publisher plans to continue providing new content, which is sold to the player at incremental rates. This additional content is usually not necessary to enjoy the core experience of the game
Id say it technically enters this category
Live-service games have generally moved though towards more "free content + extra paid content" more than the other way around
wintry scarab
First result on google apparently disagrees as well lol
tough haven
wintry scarab
> A live service game is a game for which a video game publisher plans to contin...
Ive just reread this and id say sm2 100% fits that criteria. I dont know how someone can say that it isnt live service
storm jungle
Yeah its very much that.
live-service is essentially releasing a game then promising larger future content through big updates and paid side-meals or whatever
even really old titles like Team Fortress 2 fit this criteria
wintry field
Is space marine 2 any good ?
storm jungle
Its alright.
Good if your PC can run it and you can get a few hours of fun stuff out of it.
But absolutely buy it on a sale.
hallow basin
I find SM2 considerably lacking when compared to DT, but people do seem to dig it, so it can't be that bad
storm jungle
Absolutely yeah
Its a very mid-2000's game which people praised a lot before like forgetting about the game entirely a month later lol
outer wave
From what I've seen, SM2 is just a very simple pub stomp kinda game you can jump into and get out
Also yeah it's definitely a bit of a nostalgic product
Complete with a tacked on multiplayer everyone forgot about
outer wave
Have they done any updates to multiplayer?
storm jungle
Uhhh like... 2?
wintry field
SM1 still holds up
storm jungle
I cant remember
wintry field
Fight me
outer wave
SM1 still holds up
People here would probably agree that it's story is better than SM2's so
dapper gyro
Not many games nowadays aren't live service.
outer wave
Mostly indie games, kinda anyway
dapper gyro
Still a case to case basic
outer wave
True
wintry field
Live service is a cash grab with low skilled Devs running the ship most times
I got darktide after the update
2 weeks ago
dapper gyro
Hard disagree
outer wave
While you can make decent money with an excellently crafted one-and-done game, usually live service makes more for better and for worse
wintry field
The power of donators
storm jungle
The key is to make your game good so people buy your MTX more
TF2 is one of the most predatory games out there yet nobody complains about it because the game is fun
wintry field
Mtx ?
storm jungle
wintry field
Aah
storm jungle
anything that makes you open your wallet to give the game money
Valve has mastered brainwashing players for over 2 decades now
wintry field
I know
wintry field
Why can I not post gifs
queen laurel
Why can I not post gifs
your name is grey, you need to talk here some more
wintry field
Can I cheese it
outer wave
No
wintry field
😢
plush mason
Ive just reread this and id say sm2 100% fits that criteria. I dont know how som...
its because the words "live service" make people think of p2w slop so good live service games tend to get the "its not live service" treatment
plush mason
yup
wintry field
Sorry for interrupting live service gives REAL red flag vibes
plush mason
yup
wintry field
For the trained gaymers
plush mason
and thus the cope
plush mason
for a long time live service did mean a shit game made to milk whales
we have only recently started to see the rise of high quality live service games
outer wave
Yeah
plush mason
so the prevailing view is still the "MTX store with a game glued to it"
plush mason
Can darktide be considered a live service other than server use
yeah
all mmos are also live service
wintry field
so the prevailing view is still the "MTX store with a game glued to it"
And they made her character the most annoying on purpose
outer wave
Who?
wintry field
The mtx shopkeep
plush mason
oh yeah
outer wave
She's fine
wintry field
Xenos trading filth
storm jungle
And they made her character the most annoying on purpose
Hallowette is a literal crook
why would she be nice to a literal death row person shes swindeling
wintry field
I thought it was a joke she was a pirate
plush mason
we are a captive customer base after all
wintry field
Only a corpse picker
outer wave
why would she be nice to a literal death row person shes swindeling
I so wish she kept her mean comments, even if it's not s good idea in retrospect
plush mason
I thought it was a joke she was a pirate
she is the seneshal of the rogue trader whom's ship we are on, and a smuggler
wintry field
Most sadly
storm jungle
Capitalism is capitalism baby
same reason Hadron doesnt care about you
neither does Masozi
and so on lol
plush mason
i like how sassy she is
outer wave
Well she is trying to sell us plucked shit, so her being somewhat nice when we have cash makes sense
wintry field
Brothers and sisters my phone is dying
queen laurel
She has no reason to be nice to us
yeah like she has a rank and is a useful supply runner
plush mason
"oh and dont tell Ranick, or do i dont really much care"
storm jungle
"oh and dont tell Ranick, or do i dont really much care"
She knows she'd just get reprimanded yeah lol
wintry field
True
storm jungle
"wah wah store lady was mean to me"
wintry field
Not
outer wave
I get ptsd
Me when
Womon
wintry field
Mean
wintry field
Mog ogryn
outer wave
It's worse
Bro she's just an NPC she's not going to come to your house IRL and sell you shit
Don't worry, she's not real
storm jungle
I love people like her IRL too
wintry scarab
its because the words "live service" make people think of p2w slop so good live ...
I just dont get that trail of thought. Saying a game isnt live service just because live service has a bad rep seems super dumb. If a dogs a dog, call it a dog.
plush mason
I just dont get that trail of thought. Saying a game isnt live service just beca...
i know but people are not smart especially when dealing with something they are passionate about
outer wave
@queen laurel OGRE EPISODE OGRE EPISODE OGRE EPISODE
wintry field
What is this?
outer wave
Adeptus Ridiculous, they do vids on 40k lore though it's more entertainment than accuracy. They've moved recently onto fantasy and things outside of Warhammer like Trench Crusade
Folks here are somewhat split on them but I enjoy their journey into fantasy
outer wave
It has a total war game yes
queen laurel
<@783504501561753651> OGRE EPISODE OGRE EPISODE OGRE EPISODE
I do not watch adeptus ridiculous
wintry field
outer wave
Can I get a link ?
Of the channel? The vid itself?
wintry field
Channel is it on yt
outer wave
Yep
plush mason
its a podcast channel
wintry field
I got something to spend my travel time
plush mason
thankfully none of the podcasts are like 6+ hours long like many of them tend to be
plush mason
yeah
outer wave
True
outer wave
I LOVE OGRES TOO!!!!
outer wave
Sometimes I wish Ogryns had some of the personality of ogres in their design
But I accept that they're both different interpretations of ogres as a fantasy race
outer wave
Absolutely
queen laurel
Like the amount of effort they went through to animate giant mongolians eating and singing is amazing
summer mural
If you watch the full video like three seconds more, greasus does an evil grin right at the end of his burp
That grin is just the more evil ogre thing ever
Like it screams" yeah I've eaten men women and children whole"
outer wave
God forbid a man can have good meals
viral halo
Happy Easter!
summer mural
I also like how almost every fantasy faction has their own ogre units
outer wave
Happy easter!
queen laurel
Happy Easter!
HAPPY ZOGGING EASTER
wintry field
Happy easter
rose thorn
Hello all
crystal forum
*Gasp* A vehicle in a Combat Patrol....
why does it look so bland for a chaos rhino
queen laurel
*Gasp* A vehicle in a Combat Patrol....
Okay i just can't stay quiet for a death guard vehicle that looks cleaner than a garbage pile
vagrant fox
It's a little too clean, yea
crystal forum
it looks almost like something that raptors would use
queen laurel
Like it looks so god damn not death guard
crystal forum
same colour scheme
queen laurel
Like this thing looks cleaner than nurgle's garden
rose thorn
A REAL SPEARHEAD FOR KHRONE
queen laurel
no chaos insignia or anything
It's also the fact that it lacks any characteristics of nurgle
queen laurel
It looks too f****** clean
rose thorn
vagrant fox
It could be a recent capture, but man it's way too clean
rose thorn
Maybe maybe the tzeentch one won’t be ass!
queen laurel
It could be a recent capture, but man it's way too clean
Yeah but like recent captures are like
Rapidly corrupted
rose thorn
On top of that there’s the next quarterly balance update for Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team, and… some other things…
queen laurel
Like put some damn mouths on the damn thing
vagrant fox
The top right thing looks funky though
queen laurel
Or like pus growths
crystal forum
The top right thing looks funky though
i genuinely love nurgle tanks
they look so weird
queen laurel
The top right thing looks funky though
Yeah this literally this it looks dirty it looks fitting
The other one just looks way to clean
crystal forum
monkey's paw combat patrol
we get a vehicle but it's a barely changed vanilla rhino
literally the cheapest space marine vehicle too
rocky gale
You got a vehicle shuddup
crystal forum
guard sentinel got transformed into 6 horses
rocky gale
You stole the Rhino from the old Sororitas Patrol
vagrant fox
I'm not too familiar with the minis, does this lad just have one eye
queen laurel
I'm not too familiar with the minis, does this lad just have one eye
I can't tell because of how grainy it looks i'm going to be honest
But it seems that he has two eyes
summer mural
That deathwatch kill team is still my favourite kill team set of all Time
The one that has bits and pieces from other chapters on the death watch members
rocky gale
Kill team Cassius?
summer mural
Yeah
rocky gale
I don't think it was actually a Killteam
It was a Kill team in terms of Deathwatch lore, but not a Killteam in terms of the game mode
rose thorn
Yeha it was for a board game called killteam
Not an actual killteam
For killteam
It was a killteam for killteam not killteam even though it’s a killteam
spare osprey
I'm not too familiar with the minis, does this lad just have one eye
Lemme check
Nope both eyes
tough haven
How likely is it to find killteam games against other newbies on TTS?
late osprey
*Gasp* A vehicle in a Combat Patrol....
something about a rhino for plague marines and terminators is just so funny to me
maybe it synergizes quite well though
hallow basin
just give them mobility scooters
arctic talon
I think they’d break
late osprey
Rhino is really good for plague marines lol
do plague marines only take up one slot?
arctic talon
Yeah
Terminators can’t get in rhinos so they’ll be slogging it
But with how small a combat patrol board is
I mean…..
late osprey
Terminators can’t get in rhinos so they’ll be slogging it
i thought they can they just take up 2x the slots
arctic talon
Nah
They take up 2x slots in land raiders
Terminators are literally too heavy for rhinos to carry safely
crystal forum
Rhino is really good for plague marines lol
if only it wasn't also the cheapest most readily available transport option for all space marines but repackaged with two unique pieces
not even a land raider
arctic talon
Why the fuck would they put a land raider in a combat patrol box
Lol
A land raider is almost 300 points
crystal forum
because it's an expensive af box
arctic talon
Yes and you’re getting good value from the DG box?
It’s like very good savings
Even without the rhino
crystal forum
there's no way a group of plague marines is that expensive
arctic talon
It’s the deathshrouds and 2 characters
crystal forum
those are characters?
arctic talon
Yes
There’s a Lord of
I forgot what
And the bell dude
I forgot the name of
I don’t play death guard
The box has 2 characters 2 squads and a metal box
crystal forum
i still think the rhino looks lazy
arctic talon
It’s literally fine
Maybe a predator instead or w/e
A land raider literally has no use in the box
You can’t even fill it with all the dudes
crystal forum
Maybe a predator instead or w/e
nah that would defeat the purposes of a transport option
arctic talon
Doesn’t have to be a transport imo
The transport is nice for the box but they could have added another squad or a dif vehicle
crystal forum
didn't you just say it goes well with plague marines
arctic talon
It does, but so do more plague marines lol
Plague marines like rhinos a lot
But I don’t think anyone will complain about more minis or a small tank
crystal forum
i wish guard got a chimera
arctic talon
Their current patrol is weird lol
It’s like extremely good value wise
As long as you like horses
crystal forum
it's like combat patrol is morphing into fast mobile unit battles
arctic talon
Tbh it’s ironic that the Tau one is the complete opposite of it
It’s way slower then the old one
The CWE one is also slower
crystal forum
i genuinely find it hard to believe that somebody who wants to start playing warhammer would do combat patrol instead of kill team
i know it's very different
but if the idea of a combat patrol is to provide an easy way to start then kill team does that just better
crystal forum
you have to go all in on 40k
crystal forum
if you want to build your own army then you'll want options right? that takes buying a lot of units
shadow plover
what I've heard from people who've played Combat Patroll, they've thought it an excellent starter for the game
crystal forum
even if it's just combat patrol size
arctic talon
if you want to build your own army then you'll want options right? that takes bu...
Usually people settle on a list and build towards that
Options to swap come later
crystal forum
i like that kill team has a lot of flexibility with a limited amount of units
and yeah it's not going to introduce you to 40k but if you have never played tabletop then it's an excellent introduction to the whole concept
arctic talon
Mhm
late osprey
i generally love the combat patrols
i got one for Lumineth
only thing it doesnt have is my knights, so room for expansion too
also a martial hero, i dont generally like casters as heroes
rose thorn
Combat patrol is like the skeleton of 40k
Imagine if the bones were picked out by dart board
nocturne crest
So here's a question. Could the necrons control an imperial knight with a scarab?
arctic talon
They can control the pilot with a mindshackle one maybe
But I doubt the throne mechanicum wouldn’t notice
storm jungle
It doesnt help that like
Necron technology is literally "whatever the author wants at the time" lol
since they are just extremely advanced, they need to be nerfed in most engagements in lore because otherwise they'd steamroll everyone
arctic talon
Yeah that also
storm jungle
Like ignoring that
arctic talon
Necron technology is literally "whatever the author wants at the time" lol
Tbh it gets to the point it’s kind of stupid
storm jungle
5 warriors can probably melt a knight's leg with concentrated fire
storm jungle
Tbh it gets to the point it’s kind of stupid
Its great but the issue is like again they are TOO op
they need a sabotage in every campaign
lmao
storm jungle
To prove that point once I had a Chapter Master of my marines die to a necron during an engagement
(he got accidentally shot by a regular necron warrior gauss strayshot)
💀
(in the face)
arctic talon
As a marine against Necrons you gotta pray your refractor field works and you have oneLOL
Otherwise
storm jungle
YEP
arctic talon
Shits gona be awful
arctic talon
Tbf
storm jungle
that is just embarrassing
arctic talon
You can dodge