40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

There's this one freeblade

who is known to have killed almost as many allies as enemies in friendly fire incidents

[rose thorn]

iUGHVGYUHJUI

[arctic talon]

The Crimson Reaper is a Freeblade Knight who was first sighted during the Rithguard Crusade and has since then participated in battles on scores of worlds alongside the armies of the Imperium. Those who have fought at his side, however, struggle to admire him, as he does not care for the lives of his allies on the battlefield and has readily trampled them to death in his eagerness to clash with the Imperium's enemies

[nocturne crest]

Found it: Knight House Lucaris.

[nocturne crest]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/House_Lucaris

[rose thorn]

shitt

[arctic talon]

"In the early stages of a campaign, Imperial forces cheer to see this deathly-marked avenging Knight laying waste to their foe. It is never long, however, before the Crimson Reaper's obvious disregard for those who fight beside him stifles this enthusiasm. His allies are forced to look away from his callous deeds, as their own soldiers are trampled underfoot or are caught too close to Thermal Cannon blasts."

lol

[rose thorn]

lmao

[arctic talon]

take inspiration from this for when they're fighting Black Legion

they can be like normal and stuff outside of that

[dusky beacon]

what are some notable T'au/Eldar interactions? I know the Dhrukari are on the "cant make peace with" list but what about Craftworlds and Exodites?

[arctic talon]

the Tau tried to genocide some exodites because they thought they were drukhari, they got fought off and they tried again, craftworld eldar intervened and told them to fuck off, and also that they're not drukhari

Tau tried to tell the craftworld eldar to join the Tau empire

Eldar laughed at them and told them no

Beil'tan genocided some Tau

beecause they were on a Maiden world

[dusky beacon]

as they do

[arctic talon]

Ulthwe stopped a chaos invasion from hitting the Tau empire

for reasons and then left

[rose thorn]

any big events during the horus heresy that would keep horus distracted?

[arctic talon]

Nah

horus was pretty much making a beeline to Terra

Oh

well that would mean he was distracted lol

[rose thorn]

lmao

[arctic talon]

also if you wanted your Knights to try to murder Horus

they could try at Beta Garmon

and fail

[dusky beacon]

probably because its a good idea to keep Chaos down in all sectors regardless if you care about the people theyre threatening or not

[rose thorn]

I was just thinking murder the sons of horus on thier home planet

[arctic talon]

Well

that wouldn't be possible

because Cthonia got blown up by the DA

[rose thorn]

i mean sons of horus on the knight planet

[arctic talon]

while the IF and SoH were fighting on it

Oh

then yeah

sorry my bad lol

[rose thorn]

your good

[arctic talon]

once the Heresy begun

they could have thought enough was enougha

and they wouldn't go to damination with Horus

if he's a traitor MIGHT AS WELL

[rose thorn]

yeee

[arctic talon]

Rapidfire battle cannon

VS.

Space Marine

[rose thorn]

they did like, a few battles with the sons of horus jsut so they can rally up knights

the high king made ac ouncil to plan out theri betrayl

then maybe after they reclaimed their planet, charged into beta garmon, gets clapped, but their loyalty (or use) to the imeprium was proven and were accepted

oh yeah a ahistload of knight houses were there

[arctic talon]

yeah Beta Garmon

was a fucking clusterfuck LOL

[storm jungle]

I read it up only like a week ago since it kept getting mentioned in books

I read it on lexi and like, it was ok

I expected more lol

but its 30k so rip

[wintry scarab]

Do crimson fists have companies? And if so, do they display it on their armour?

[opaque coyote]

30k has the constraint of leading to 40k

so they have a bunch of interesting ideas at times

but they're held back

because

they can't exist

[storm jungle]

Alas.

[opaque coyote]

so it all just ends with

"and they all died"

Like the Interex actually sounded interesting

and then they just get genocided

[storm jungle]

All Chapters have companies. But you wont find much on the front of visuals

[opaque coyote]

I think the company role differs depending on the chapter asw

[storm jungle]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Crimson_Fists

Just go to their wikipage and like

scroll through the artworks

you can use some shit from there

[opaque coyote]

Like if I remember correctly, the Salamanders have a special company dedicated to burning civilians alive

[opaque coyote]

also why they're one of my favorite chapters tbh

[storm jungle]

Thats also like

"recent" lore

since GW prob realised Salamanders essentially do nothing evil lol

its on their 9th edition supplement, its hilarious

[rose thorn]

how early was Beta btw?

it was after the dropsight

[arctic talon]

its campaign book was really good tbh

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Beta-Garmon

Lexicanum is your friend magni

[arctic talon]

its from 7e

[rose thorn]

i know i cant read

[arctic talon]

so its like

14 years old now

lol

GW just doubled down on it

in 8e and 9e

[rose thorn]

what deos this mean

[wintry scarab]

Idk if i just missed it while searching, but the only thing that i could find is maybe the black parts of their insignias are the place where they represent their company but idk.

[arctic talon]

Literally right before the siege of terra lol

Beta garmon was extremely late heresy

[rose thorn]

AH oka thank you

[arctic talon]

It was the loyalists and other elements attempting a decapitation strike

on Horus

it obviously failed

[storm jungle]

The reality is unless you are a famous Chapter you are not gonna get a full on company insignia page or two

[arctic talon]

because we need the Siege of Terra

[opaque coyote]

Might be overtalked, but to this day

I still like the contrast of them being the "nicest" chapter but basically casually using white phosphrous on their enemies.

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

But yeah its few nicknames are great

[opaque coyote]

And also they're still SMs

[arctic talon]

"The Titandeath"

[opaque coyote]

so that's why nice is in quotations

[storm jungle]

Actually its 8th

(which is 2019)

[arctic talon]

"the great slaughter of beta garmon"

ect.

lol

Anyways violence

[opaque coyote]

They just won't shoot/burn you if you have a 6th finger

waste of a bolter shell

/fuel

[arctic talon]

Beta Garmon is funny

Its like one of my favorite battles in the heresy

because its non stop death and violence

[storm jungle]

Its kinda whatever for me

like

its just a generic ground battle

tanks, titans, 2 primarchs, marines

not enough exotic uh "qualities"

[arctic talon]

yeah

[opaque coyote]

I LOVE MURDER

[arctic talon]

but a lot of people died

also I like titandeath

(the book) a ton

so biased

[storm jungle]

titan book

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/analyse-this-de-niro-shoot-hit-pillow-gif-14674439871687960818

[storm jungle]

Death.

[opaque coyote]

Sometimes all you need is just

big things exploding

many people dying

etc.

[wintry scarab]

Well yeah, but in this case i thought it would be a bit more set in stone considering its the crimson fists.

[storm jungle]

I mean Crimson Fists are not that famous

only founding Chapters/big shots get those detailed layouts

as the marketing demands

[hallow saddle]

it might be in a white dwarf potentially

(no idea)

[wintry scarab]

Are you talking about these?

[storm jungle]

Yeah that.

As you saw C.Fists just get those more basic layouts

"Heres a helmet with a IV"

[wintry scarab]

Fuck you

oh

[storm jungle]

I TOLD YOU SO

[wintry scarab]

nvm

[storm jungle]

lmao bruh

what wrongs did I commit to be persecuted

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-jailed-jail-cage-gif-12742508553562715694

[wintry scarab]

For a second i thought you were wrong. Therefor i hit you with the grand and almighty "Fuck you"

[storm jungle]

It was you who was the fool

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-gif-22352156

but yeah it sucks but it is what it is

[wintry scarab]

Aye... Shame

[storm jungle]

Id say just take liberties

lore accuracy is cool but you gotta remember most artwork appearances have marines with the most random markings since its largely just "ah fuck it who cares"

[wintry scarab]

Yeah, i guess.

[rose thorn]

ight made a quote

“There is no greater evil than to conquer, to force an enemy to bow before you with a blade above their head. Were above forcing this upon the enemies of our house as we were once victims of this evil. House Vulstella instead grants the mercy of complete obliteration.”

[opaque coyote]

"There is no greater evil than to conquer, to force an execution upon their souls with a blade above their head. House Vulstella has suffered this indignity, and lost their taste in inflicting it. They instead grant mercy to the soul by obliterating the body."

[rose thorn]

OOO

uoink thank you

[soft thunder]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Dating_System

[storm jungle]

Ian has an entire video explaining it

(I legit do not get it)

[soft thunder]

I feel like it's used wrong sometimes

or im just dumb

or both

[storm jungle]

Nah its 100% both

like

I appreciate a fictional time system like any universe

but god its confusing

[rose thorn]

how to tell if a european made a time system

[storm jungle]

LOL

[opaque coyote]

tbf

considering the imperium

it makes sense if it was absolutely confusing

[hallow basin]

i hope you can find a good partner with either system

[opaque coyote]

[soft thunder]

I bet the imperium still has daylight's saving time

[hallow basin]

I mean, with the Imperium being so large and multifaceted, trying to standartize all of if can't end with something simple to understand

[vagrant fox]

It's less complicated than Danish numbers so it's sensible to me

[rose thorn]

i have to admit, writing horus heresy lore is really fun

i get why theres like 100 horus heresy books now

[storm jungle]

Welcome to warhammer homebrewing

we'll convert you fully just yet

[vagrant fox]

It's a good time

[storm jungle]

^

[vagrant fox]

40k is just so loosey goosey you can just do whatever

[storm jungle]

soon enough we'll have you making your own sector

also that yeah

you can literally do your own thing anywhere since the galaxy is so big

[vagrant fox]

I'm trying to make grimdark democracy on a planet but it seems so trite

[storm jungle]

Theres absolutely some downsides.

[rose thorn]

once you fidn something that clicks it does just click

[storm jungle]

THATS WHAT I WAS TELLING YOU

🗣️

[rose thorn]

LMAO

knights are just peak

[storm jungle]

they are very fun for homebrew

you get to plan out an entire dynasty

I had one become high-king because the original heir slipped in a sauna-pleasurehouse and cracked his skull

fun times with the monarchy

[rose thorn]

my knight house sent the knights of families loyal to horus so they can do their betrayl without any internal conflict

i think once my high king gets to Beta to kill horus, probably a knight from the ones he sent will stop him and they will kill each other

[storm jungle]

Yeah that sounds about right.

general enough without any conflicting lore stuff

[rose thorn]

let the loose ends tie it self up and then just say what horus loyal knights were left went the chaos version of freeblade after seeing thier king try to murder them

[nocturne crest]

Would anyone be for or against Cursed Founding space marines chapters getting a codex?

[rose thorn]

against

we dotn need it please

[vagrant fox]

Eh, I'm not against it but it's not needed. It could be fun for more cursed founding lore and armies with paired curses and advantages but there's other stuff I'd rather see

[dapper gyro]

Most 1st founding codex are already watered down and 2nd found are borderline inexistant. We don't need an almost random finding into the mix.

[nocturne crest]

If you don't mind me asking, but what other stuff would you like to see?

[rose thorn]

slams hands on table HORUS HEREYS LORE IS DONE

im very happy wiht it

[vagrant fox]

Imperial Knights and Deathwatch could use some updating for existing stuff, as far as I know
I don't care about Tau so I'd like to see some new cool-ass aliens, straight outta the Ghoul Stars so terrorize everyone

[rose thorn]

“To conquer is to enforce loyalty, to be loyal is to enforce betrayal.”

[arctic talon]

Congrats

[rose thorn]

then 40k lore il sweep in a corner and write when i play 40k\

oka im very happy with their culture

House Vulstella are loyal to no master nor do they expect others to be loyal to them. When they join in battles they willfully ignore the commands of others or give any, always expecting to be betrayed as they have millennia ago. The only allegiance in the house can be found in their vows and deeds, marked upon their knight’s armor to show what they will accomplish and what they have already done. The only common trait shared among the House is their absolute unwavering hatred for the followers of Horus or Abbadon. They have abandoned wars to join combat against every Black Crusade, every member of the Black Legion they kill is marked upon their armor as eyes crossed out, and many knights have fallen attempting to slay Abbadon on their own in a frenzied rage.

bit vanilla i admit

[arctic talon]

Could write that their allegiance to the imperium is set in stone due to their hatred of Horus

But it’s cool

[rose thorn]

very true

ill add that

their mentality may or may not be inspired by the sisters of battle's Argent Shroud, but htey dont talk

these guys just dont listen

[arctic talon]

Lol

[rose thorn]

Now I just imagine a son of horus chilling then suddenly getting obliterated

[arctic talon]

If you want you can also lean into their weaponry being primarily for killing as many marines as possible

[median star]

so have been thinking about auto cannons in 40k and like whats the purpose why not just have big bolter

[hallow basin]

the same as usual lasguns when compared to bolters: las weaponry is much cheaper to fire

[arctic talon]

Autocannon cheaper yeah

[sacred ginkgo]

Less expensive or complex ammo

[arctic talon]

Also

Auto cannon bigger

The size of auto cannon rounds is a good bit bigger then a heavy bolters

[sacred ginkgo]

And yeah they don’t have 40mm bolt shells

[tough haven]

yet

"Hey guys I found this pile of 6 billion 50mm bolt rounds and guns to fire them in an ancient archaeotech vault, how convenient!"

[dapper gyro]

At a certain point, the payload of the projectile has more effect than just the way it is being sent.

[terse kestrel]

Can primaris marines wearing mark 10 armour use the beacie helm, or what is the reason they wouldnt want to

[late osprey]

late but to be fair this one is basically ALL codex astartes purists

aka it covers like 90% of chapters or whatever

[bold veldt]

reminds me of a gaunts ghosts book

[bold veldt]

think of it like the beak of a jet, just more sensors

idk whether a primaris would use it like sm2 tho

[terse kestrel]

They released primaris beacie models, but idk how the lore works around using different/older armours

[bold veldt]

yea idk either

id say the beakie has more sensors, but idk if theyve been compared

same for Mk 8

or any older variants like you said

[tough haven]

I wrote a little scene for my campaign, where the players interface with the neural augment of a deserted guardsman they just killed, and see his memories, anyone care to hear it?

[opaque coyote]

yeah sure fuck it

[arctic talon]

older MKs are fully compatible. There's also the fact that Primaris are starting to shove MKX stuff into older MKs

the MK6's sensor array was arguably obsolete when MK7 was made

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/209843216227368962/1362641371520962733/image0.png?ex=6803222b&is=6801d0ab&hm=e0fcd518378bcfd639967c5ca73201b42c8c825d5f6b744f75d8b25786dc512a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=768&height=930

@queen laurel Chicken Jockey

[queen laurel]

i hate you but it fits so well

SQUIGGOSAUR
-an ork beastboss

[terse kestrel]

Can successor chapters of the ravenguard not be pale skinned?

[arctic talon]

generally speaking they've always got melanin issues

due to the defective gene

but you could write that your dudes

mutated it back into being functional

lol

[queen laurel]

also wolf, you should have told me that empakaai is a thing

[arctic talon]

also scouts have normal skin colors

They basicially like

slowly lose their melanin

you can see it with the new KT scouts

since they've got normal(but paler) skin tones

[terse kestrel]

I really like the raptors but the black hair and skin ruins the self insert

[queen laurel]

a variant of the the blackbeared that has an arm with it's own mind

[arctic talon]

they can have non black hair, losing melanin is gona happen though

[terse kestrel]

What are scouts? Phobos Marines?

[arctic talon]

nah scouts are young marines

neophytes

with most of their organs in

[terse kestrel]

So many chapters have like one thing wrong with them I strongly dislike. Like the space wolves being furries, salamander appearance, ravenguard appearance

I think ravenguard are probably the coolest

Blood Angels being vampires

[summer mural]

aaight

im gonna replay kingmaker

then wrath of the righteous

then Im gonna finally install rogue trader

does anyone know if rogue trader is getting more future dlc btw

[late osprey]

yes

also good choice

rogue trader doesnt make sense unless you play kingmaker and wrath first in that order

its a trilogy

[summer mural]

good, Il wait for that

and its an owcat trilogy

I will restructure my mind to go into full owlcat mode

where you basically open the internet, and read everything about pathfinder builds before actually playing the game

[late osprey]

for me its like

i dont like pathfinder because its a less fun version of 3.5 to me

so i never took their pathfinder games seriously mechanically

but i actually really like owlcat's RT to the tabletop

mostly because they both allow you to have equal amounts of wacky fun

while pathfinder for example prevents you from stacking expanded crit ranges, which as a 3.5er is the most CBT thing on the planet to me

[summer mural]

yeah pathfinder can be kinda tight for a videogame

and the game adheres to it quite seriously

[late osprey]

argenta in owlcat RT, meanwhile, can wipe out a whole room in a single turn

which is only slightly different than how tabletop RT is

[summer mural]

i dunno anything about tabletop rt

never checked it out

[late osprey]

FFG's games in general get absolutely unhinged in certain places

the most infamous example i know is the unkillable demon king that is the Deathwatch Techmarine

but its not hard to find Maximal Amounts Of Fun period regardless of which FFG you play

only Dark Heresy to my knowledge is tame

[dusky scroll]

Do Necrons engage in diplomacy?

Have they ever engaged in communication with Imperium/Tau/Votann/Eldar?

By communication, I don't mean yelling, "You suck!" before turning them into goo. Like, actual communication for the sake of exchanging information and/or cooperation.

[queen laurel]

yes

some necrons are more reasonable but most of them are

vaporize non necrons on sight

[arctic talon]

Sometimes

[arctic talon]

Marine + any bionics instantly breaks the game

It gets more absurd in Black Crusade

Since you can combine nurgle + bionics + marine stats

And tank Las cannons lol

[dusky scroll]

with Human? What was the interaction about?? What did they seek?

[arctic talon]

Surrender and we’ll enslave you and let you live

Also they’ve made temporary alliances before

Against stuff like nids

[queen laurel]

yeah that

[dusky scroll]

what use would necrons have with a bunch of enslaved hobos?

[arctic talon]

It’s fun

You have to remember the Necrons are racist dicks lol

[dusky scroll]

Dark Eldars have fun with slaves... but Necrons?

[arctic talon]

They think having a bunch of slaves building shit for them is fun

Like monuments

Imotekh has enslaved humans building statues of him

On a lot of worlds lol

[queen laurel]

No they are basically the classic pragmatic slave owners

they use slaves in the most efficient and brutal ways possible

which is making them do things

[arctic talon]

Human slaves for the crons pretty much are just them waiting subjects

To rule over lol

[queen laurel]

yeah to be fair cron slavery is like the least fucked slavery

which speaks a lot

[dusky scroll]

Still... making statues and whatnots sounds like doing pointless stuff for shits and giggles. Compared to Necrons, human are basically a bunch of apes with sharp sticks and a religion.

Not useful in any practical sense

[queen laurel]

Would you rather be turned into a sentient flesh table or become a combat slave to be eaten later?

Trust me you would rather be stuck with them in forceful labor than whatever the hell dark eldar do

[dusky scroll]

No no... I don't mean that. I mean, Dark Eldar enslaving and torturing do have a purpose, bribing slaanesh (with suffering).

[late osprey]

the cron lords realized that half the fun in tyranny was their subjects suffering

[queen laurel]

necron nobles love glory and being venerated that's all there is to them

[late osprey]

it just was way too boring when they were totally obedient robots

[queen laurel]

Even back when they were flesh

they were cruel

to their subjects

And to be fair their actual resources are their heightened technology

[arctic talon]

Yeah but some of the Necrons miss having subjects to lord over

[queen laurel]

not some meager fleshling that break the moment you punch it wrong

[arctic talon]

And be dicks to lol

[arctic talon]

Mfw I can’t throw glass bottles at my warriors anymore

[dusky scroll]

Another question, when properly alive, were Emperor aware of the existence of Necrons, Tyranids, and Tau?

Afaik he did know about Orks and Eldars.

[dusky beacon]

T'au wouldn't have existed during the time of the Emperor

[arctic talon]

Tau didn’t even exist yet, they hadn’t evolved yet

they ran into some nids during the great crusade

And he def knew about Necrons

[dusky beacon]

I think The Silent King even met a Primarch

[arctic talon]

He says he did

He could be lying

[dusky beacon]

Is he a big liar? I don't actually know a whole lot about him besides the bullet points

[arctic talon]

Well

He’s a good politician

So that means he’s a good liar

[dusky beacon]

Understood

[lilac silo]

are there plague marines that aren't from the death guard?

[vagrant fox]

Yes, Corpulax is an example

[celest dome]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nurgle#Chaos_Space_Marines

9 (might be more) known groups

[lilac silo]

thanks I'll go check it out

[crisp heath]

Some interesting and funny lore

[storm jungle]

Girl-team never gives up 😔

[summer mural]

yeah they do, have you seen the state of feminism in 2025

[celest dome]

Depend on the country

[storm jungle]

Kinda get drowns out with all the stuff going on tbh

[summer mural]

fair enough

[crisp heath]

I think the biggest problem is political parties using women in their agenda a lot of those girls/women think that they fight for something good but mostly they are just tools

I'm just saying according to my experience in my country

And the sad thing is mostly it backfires and set them in even lesser position I do admire strong women that through their life have shown their straight. They didn't have to prove anything to anyone and that is inspiring.

[tough haven]

You’re in a trench with your fellow soldiers of the Gilead Gravediggers, defending a planet you can’t recall the name of at the edge of the Rift from a heretic assault. But there were no heretics, it was something far worse.

Suddenly the cacophony of war surrounds you, shouted orders, gunfire, battle cries and screams of pain. You and your men fire everything you have towards the wave of gibbering, horrible things that appeared out of thin air. Hails of bullets and bolts strike them, They scream and laugh and moan but none fall, but still you fight, for it is your duty. Only in death does duty end.

Suddenly they are upon you, bloated, one eyed monsters with rotting flesh and clouds of flies around them. They cut into your men with rusted broken blades as they count each fallen soldier in relentless phlegm choked monotone.

Every soldier that falls dead gradually returns to their feet with pox covered faces and join the nightmares assaulting you. Worst of all they smile in a rictus grin, calling your name, shouting for you to join them, to succumb to Grandfather Nurgle. It’s too much for you to bear, you call the rest of your men and lead a desperate escape, you and your men flee as fast and as far as you can, seeking whatever refuge you can as deserters. But still, you have a duty to them. Only in death does duty end.

The shame eats at you, You didn’t want to flee the Guard, to disgrace The Emperor, but what choice did you have? It was either fight and end up like your fallen men, or a round in the back of your skull for cowardice.

Years later, in the bowels of a Hive City, a shadowy figure offers you and your ragged men more aquillas than you’ve ever seen for a simple job, to run security on some exchange, and kill anyone who interferes.

You could buy freedom for your men, passage to some corner of the system where they’ll be safe. Then maybe you could finally give yourself the Emperor's Peace with some measure of solace. You take the deal, for you still have a duty to them.

Only in death. Does Duty.
End.

And then whoever is interfacing with the augmetic suddenly regains consciousness and has to make a check to sift through which memories are theirs, and then a corruption check to see if they get a little nurgle corruption from the secondhand exposure

[tall plinth]

So lemme get this straight

I forgor 💀

Oh wait I rember

There is no max size an Ork can grow to?

[queen laurel]

no

well supposedly no

[summer mural]

do krorks have like

personality

[queen laurel]

yes

brutal scumbags

[summer mural]

they have orkish personalities?

like basically saying the same shit as a warboss

[queen laurel]

It's said they can keep growing for as long as they live

But the highest peak that we know of they had achieved was when they were created being when they were krorks

Theoretically they can achieve higher than that

But it's one of those things that you don't really want to take for granted

Gw is not good at this type of thing

[queen laurel]

Imagine orks but smart and pretty sophisticated

And also efficient

[vagrant fox]

We don't really know anything about krorks do we, besides possibly one excerpt from the Fabius book

[queen laurel]

yeah we know that basically they have advanced tech and are massive

[summer mural]

i wonder if they devolved genetically naturally or if the elves made it happen

after the og war

[queen laurel]

it's a mixture of them not having anything worth it to fight and the eldar, systematically killing them

they want a good fight, the eldar just bomb them

with their super weapons

[vagrant fox]

Eldar goofin, the big war was over, maybe the brain boyz but I think that's old lore

[queen laurel]

that's what they call old ones yeah

brain boyz

[vagrant fox]

I remember reading that they were a greenskin subspecies

Well, believed to be

[queen laurel]

that's what the orks basically refer to their creators

[summer mural]

They call them brain boyz iic

Iirc

Although afaik orks in fantasy were not created

By the old ones

And were already around

[queen laurel]

yeah they are spores introduced by the old ones by accident

it seems

[sly ivy]

Early 90s lore as I recall suggested that snotlings(?) were the degenerate descendants of brainboys.

[vagrant fox]

Ah I remembered this page, doesn't really mention old ones

[spring cairn]

Ah yes, ork Etherals

Orkerals

[hallow basin]

who are therds and why are they running

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's not really brought up anymore because it's really old

It's just basically generally accepted that the old ones made them in setting

[vagrant fox]

Yeah the sources listed are ancient

[tall plinth]

SNAKEBITES

GRAHHHH

[opaque coyote]

Fire

Although it would be funny if they're just like

"Damn. This guy's a fucking pussy ass bitch"

[tough haven]

They could be if they want

[tough haven]

Whats a good reward for promotion as an enforcer that still feels grim dark?

like "Oh you have a class 3 hab instead of a class 2"

[outer wave]

"You get the hablock room with the personal bathroom."

[celest dome]

Better food packs, better pay, better Habs, special stuff as rewards...

[young pecan]

predators

[opaque coyote]

"You get a private, non-communal bathroom."

[arctic talon]

^

[tall plinth]

Congratulations! We have sent a celebratory gift basket to your hab unit

[jade holly]

Out of curiosity is there any national influences in the space marine chapters?

[arctic talon]

Wdym like irl nations?

Not a ton

[jade holly]

Like say does Iron Hands have any inspiration from Germany or Greece?

[arctic talon]

They’re usually more ancient cultures or much more broad generic

[jade holly]

Cause their planet of origin was Medusa (I think?)

[arctic talon]

Iron Hands naming conventions aren’t from those

They’re like a mix of Jewish, Scottish and something else

For names iirc

Culturally def not

They’re nothing like the Greeks or Germans

The closest culturally to Greeks for modern marine chapters would be The Minotaurs

Unless you count more generic stuff

And that would be Ancient + some of mythological Greece for the Minotaurs

But they do stuff like Greek fresco paintings for the minotaurs

[jade holly]

Idk I just thought German cause Iron Hands are known for engineering (actually that’s more Iron Warriors, Iron Hands are mainly bionics no?)

[arctic talon]

Veterans like to do it on their armor

Iron Hands are making stuff, guns and bionics yeah

They’re all 3 of those hats

[jade holly]

Whereas IW is mainly war machines and pure engineering

[arctic talon]

Siege works yeah

[vagrant fox]

There's broad, vague inspirations but it doesn't always get 1:1 specific

[arctic talon]

I mean white scars

[vagrant fox]

Yes there are exceptions

[opaque coyote]

Exotic Butters

[tall plinth]

yooo

[opaque coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTK9P4d0KVk

[rose thorn]

God I hate Reddit

[outer wave]

What happened?

[dapper gyro]

Initially, the Custodes are reserved for greek culture inspiration.

But they have to make the Minotaur Mary Sue into that mix.

[arctic talon]

The Minotaurs existed with actual lore longer then the custodes

Lol

There’s also a few other chapters with greek inspirations

Like the uh

Spears of the emperor I think

It doesn’t really matter if multiple groups draw from the same source imo

[tough haven]

After several week’s time (character name) was suddenly commended for several honor’s and promotions directly from the top brass, who credited him/her with the marked improvement of relations between the Enforcers and the Machine Cult. The perks included in his/her promotion allowed for a level of luxury that would otherwise be impossible. Such as a grade 3 hab room with its very own personal washroom! And a celebratory gift basket including one real cut of meat, and genuine butter!

I don’t know who this character is yet

[dapper gyro]

They existed by name, which doesn't count much for me. Much like some chapter like Raptor, existed for a long long time as colour scheme, but their lore is rather recent.

[arctic talon]

Custodes didn't exist in their modern form until 2016

minotaurs existed in their modern form since 2010

With Badab

[arctic talon]

Minotaurs in their modern form are 6 years older then modern custodes

[dapper gyro]

I don't mind about more than one chapter taking inspiration from the same culture.

[arctic talon]

Then idk what your issue is with minotaurs and custodes sharing a similar aesthetic for some stuff

if anything I'm annoyed GW is so uncreative with custodes

the whole each set of armor is customized isn't shown at all really in the minis

[dapper gyro]

Yes, but wasn't their lore was much older, like from the 2000s?

I just don't like the minotaur chapter.

[arctic talon]

No

Modern custodes lore hasn't existed since 2016

Custodes essentially were just gold marines(but worse or better) up until we got the lore with the Burning of Prospero box

and Horus Heresy black book eight

Those 2 books along with the 8e custodes codex

are what make up the basis of modern custodes lore

GW threw everything out about custodes from the past except for the basic concept

[arctic talon]

and thats fine, but at least shit on them for the right reasons imo

[vagrant fox]

The Custodes seem to draw a lot from the Persian Immortals. I might be looking too much into it

[arctic talon]

There's def some stuff from them there

Custodes are kind of a clusterfuck

(in a good way)

I just wish GW would get more creative with armor design for them. Its kind of silly how Marines have so many weird subpatterns and stuff but custodes are so standarized

give me an upgrade sprue for custodes thats just like a bunch of different helmets, arms, legs ect.

[vagrant fox]

That'd be nice, there's two or three helmet types as is? I'd expect them to have bespoke armour to some extent

[storm jungle]

Theres a lot of like

Greek, Persian, etc

its mostly "this general area"

points to the Mediterranean civilisations

lol

Its really clear in their armor with the tall helmets, gutplates and other stuff too, even down to the naming conventions which do sometimes get a mix of greek/eastern

[arctic talon]

They have 4 helmet types

The standard one, the one the blade champ has, the sagitarius one and the jump pack one

the standard one has some variation to it

from characters/FW/general sculpting

[vagrant fox]

I completely forgot about the jump pack one

[vagrant fox]

Yeah there's a bit of everything thrown in, like the Emperor geeked out over a specific topic while making them

[young pecan]

On a scale of 1-10 how accurate is this for the moderator experience Dilara

[storm jungle]

Depends on the day mos of the time.

the chat doesnt really have anyone that actively makes me miserable

[dapper gyro]

-5, because many times she is the one stabbing you in your slumber.

[young pecan]

Reasonable

Asked because I saw an unnamed interaction recently that made me lose a few minutes of my life expectancy

Anyway TW3 Katarin's random battle quotes go so hard

One time I was outnumbered 1-2 twenty stacks and she dropped something like "Kislev has known terror for centuries, this is only an inconvenience"

And she was right, I won

[vagrant fox]

Bozo mods can't just block people L 4head

[storm jungle]

Its mostly good as long as I dont look into #darktide-driptide or any of the class chats.

[young pecan]

I didn't know driptide was freaky like that

Reasonable reaction to zealot chat

[vagrant fox]

Man, speaking of greek inspired, the Iron Snakes haven't been mentioned in over a decade officially from what I can see

[young pecan]

||-someone who also perpetuates zealot chat's reputation||

[storm jungle]

Its generally just an echo-chamber, its a circlejerk of "hey microtransactions bad amirite guys" 24/7, it gets boring after the 4th day spam of it.

[hallow basin]

there are lots of people there that are unsatisfied with the drip in different ways, and it all kinda tumbles down from there

[storm jungle]

^

Its mostly correct criticism that turns into circlejerking

[young pecan]

Oh yeah that sounds about right

[storm jungle]

I largely dont care because like

this playerbase has no idea how bad actual terrible microtransactions are lol

only thing ill accept is some drip is lacking, otherwise acting like the game shoves these down your throats when you got games like TF2 out there is crazy

[young pecan]

Yeah DT's is comparatively pretty decent

[storm jungle]

Otherwise my modding existence is tolerable. The first two years were way worse, we had like nazis popping up in every channel, lore especially.

[young pecan]

Relatively respectable prices for some things, rotates every two weeks, adds more relatively frequently

As the Warhammer fandom does

Glad this server is a space where it's mostly carved itself an existence away from all that

[storm jungle]

Yeah its mostly thanks to us lol

I had people thank me for "cleaning up" a bit which refills my motivation bar sometimes which is nice to see.

[young pecan]

Sometimes someone says something that makes me raise an eyebrow that isn't directly reportable but anyone who actually does anything is taken care of

"I know what you are but I can't do anything about it yet"

[storm jungle]

Those users are the fucking worst. We had a few over the years, "hes an asshole but he isnt breaking rules yet"

[young pecan]

It is very appreciated whether we say it or not

[storm jungle]

This is also an official server so we cant just ban people based on a gut feeling

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

[vagrant fox]

It's funny, this discord has the record for fewest people I've just ignored. The moderation team has done a good job

but bring back eternal I miss the drama over nothing important

[storm jungle]

Id legit almost miss him if it wasnt for the fact of his eternal (badum tsss) cycle of:

I dont care about this. Its stupid and not worth my time.

Argues about it to people for 40m

[vagrant fox]

Yeah it gave me something to read for 40-60 minutes when I was bored

[storm jungle]

Mood, even if I was the one arguing with him half the time

he will be missed 🫡

[arctic talon]

Me when FIFA

[vagrant fox]

So it goes, the yoke of rules something something
I'm in bed and a little lazy and phones suck, do we know of any Ashen Claws splinter groups besides the sharks
If the sharks even were that

[arctic talon]

Sharks are a separate predation fleet

Ashen claws were a predation fleet turned blackshields that killed anyone

[storm jungle]

Yeah Ashen Claws are just their own thing

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[storm jungle]

they are like the only "famous" example of a renegade marine chapter, unfortunately they barely got lore because marketing

[arctic talon]

The ironic thing is they could have probably gotten anyway

With rejoining the imperium

But they didn’t

So they just have their old ass mini empire lol

[vagrant fox]

Kind of wanted to make a splinter but maybe it'll just be a separate predation fleet

[storm jungle]

Yeah make a seperate

remember the galaxy is big

you dont have to burden yourself by attaching to famous factions

[vagrant fox]

Yea, I don't like stepping on established lore

[storm jungle]

Ye also it makes your shit more unique

[arctic talon]

Only the RG, DA, and NL had predation fleets

So you got some options

[storm jungle]

To be fair

the predation-fleet thing is said to be a "tactic"/formation ruleset

one even rogue traders use

[arctic talon]

This is true

[storm jungle]

so its not chapter-specific

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

me rn

[arctic talon]

NOW!

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[storm jungle]

NOT OPERATION SUNBURST NOOO-

[vagrant fox]

Is that from Maledictum?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

yeah you can tell from the font

(if you are schizophrenic like me)

[arctic talon]

Also there were a lot of black shields during the heresy lol

You could have your renegades be boomers

Or younger

[vagrant fox]

I've never gotten my filthy hands on the rulebook 😔

[arctic talon]

Heh

You should check your DMs

[vagrant fox]

Very nice pictures of hoglings

[arctic talon]

No problem

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-coming-in-hot-jack-black-jack-black-steve-gif-16287901860148013355

Average marine at the siege of terra after being thrown

[vagrant fox]

Maybe it's because I'm tired but the font almost made me think FFG

[arctic talon]

Nah

It’s very similar to FFGs

Maledictum very much feels like a love letter to the FFG systems imo

[vagrant fox]

Hopefully these guys make as good lore as FFG, with better editing. Lets see

Kind of a bummer that Jericho Reach appears to have been swallowed up by the expanded rift

[arctic talon]

Jeroicho reach is in the hadex anomaly so it’s fine iirc

[storm jungle]

I was about to ask if the Fantasy Flight stuff has ever been mentioned in recent lore then I remembered the Rogue Trader game is literally a thing whoops 💀

[vagrant fox]

Didn't the Hadex Anomaly dookie on the whole place?

[arctic talon]

They mention calaxis in maledictum lol

But it’s like

Barely anything

[storm jungle]

Lmao its still something

better than rotting in a side supplement for 50 years

[arctic talon]

It’s mentioned as a hotbed of inqusition activity in the inqusition supplement

And that’s about it LOL

[vagrant fox]

FFG cooked good with their stuff, the Idolitrex Magos could get wild

[storm jungle]

Its also important to remember like

before the FFG stuff came out the setting BARELY had proper supplemental stuff exploring the nitty-gritty shit of the setting

the things we take for the norm these days almost all got fleshed out in these RPGs lol

[vagrant fox]

It gets real nitty gritty in those rpgs yeah. I love that stuff

Man, Only War could tell some great war stories. One of my favourite moments is the group playing veteran stormtroopers and encountering dead and dying guardsmen, instead of helping them all the players just start looting for lho-sticks and ammo while interrogating the semi-living for info

GM was for some reason baffled which I never understood

[hallow basin]

Someday I'll play Only War with my friends, but we gotta finish the 5e campaign first (bleh)

[vagrant fox]

It's a good time

[rose thorn]

people with bad taste circlejerking their shit to creepy crap

not creepy scary, creepy i wouldnt wanan eb in a room with this guy

the model was pinned by reddits mods

[outer wave]

Define creepy crap in this scenario, like what are they doing?

[opaque coyote]

Gonna sound like an insane person but like

Y'know how TTS had essentially the JJ A Pillar Men as 3 custodes for no fucking reason

For some reason, it kinda made me wonder what Aztec inspired Custodes would look like

But then I realized that apparently for the Aztecs

Gold was literally excrement from the sun.

So that kinda killed that train of thought

...

They would look really cool though

Although now I'm gonna ask

Are there any south American inspired forces in the Imperium?

[arctic talon]

Crimson fists

Sorta

They have a lot of Latino names

But aesthetically they’re pretty plain imo

Pedro my beloved

[queen laurel]

wolf are Goliaths from necromunda around space marine strenght ?

Well non armored space marines armour kind of enhances their strength

[arctic talon]

They’re S4 yeah so they’re in that ballpark

[queen laurel]

yeah they are just not as stable as one

[arctic talon]

S4 is a big range

Just like all the tabletop stats

But yeah it ranges from sicarians at the low end, marines in the middle, and Necrons at the high end

As always gameplay abstraction and such since D6 system lul

[queen laurel]

i see

Also after reading their book the Juves are called Bullies

[arctic talon]

All the stats in 40k are a big range

[queen laurel]

Very fitting considering well compared to the other juves

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

they are bigger

[arctic talon]

Understatement of the century

[queen laurel]

they also have things that can definitely out muscle a marine being stimmers

taking drugs to enhance their already absurd strength

and of course ones that can definitely run fades with an Ogryn, Zerkers

[arctic talon]

Tbf that’s not a juve lol

[arctic talon]

That one is definitely not a juve LOL

[queen laurel]

who knows

[arctic talon]

Nah

[queen laurel]

maybe this one decided to take too much steroids

[arctic talon]

He’s a merc

He’s a named character

[queen laurel]

really

[arctic talon]

Yes

[queen laurel]

aren't zerkers brutes

like hired guys

[arctic talon]

Nah he’s a named dude

He’s a Goliath only merc

Some mercs in munda are house specific

[queen laurel]

oh that it

I thought you mean like special character

that has like a name and history

[arctic talon]

He does

[queen laurel]

it's because of like this

it says that they are goliaths that overdosed on stimms and growth formulas

[arctic talon]

The dude from the mini is a specific zerker

He’s from some supplement

You can use him to represent a generic one

[queen laurel]

oh that's why

But still though that's the head of a ambot

[arctic talon]

Ye

[queen laurel]

Imagine getting so physically buffed to the point that you can run fades with a drilling robot

[arctic talon]

You can see the sheet

[queen laurel]

and win

[arctic talon]

S6 lol

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah I've downloaded also more Lancer rule books

and i'm pretty sure you already heard me replace zhenge

For favorite Mech

But the other ones are also pretty cool like damn

[opaque coyote]

dang

well that sucks

...

actually Aztec Aesthetic Space Marines sounds fucking sick

[rose thorn]

Obviously a fetish

[opaque coyote]

although probably would piss off a few sensitive people

[spare osprey]

ppl throw aztec stuff on the rainbow warriors a lot

[arctic talon]

Do the thing everyone does with rainbow warriors

and make them aztec lol

yeah

[spare osprey]

yeah there ya go lol

[opaque coyote]

true

it does fit them

[arctic talon]

I'm like

not even sure how that like

"trope" I guess? started

[rose thorn]

Really?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

quezacotal is rainbow themed ig

so

[arctic talon]

For officers and vets

I see it a quite a bit

[spare osprey]

yeah

it's that or they're gay lol

[rose thorn]

I mostlh see gay marines

[outer wave]

Ah fair

[rose thorn]

I like the gay marines more lmao

[opaque coyote]

By notramilopak*

[arctic talon]

Alright that ones a little too much LOL

[rose thorn]

Let’s check our favorite website

[arctic talon]

Very cool design

but could do without some of the gold

The force weapon is extremely cool though

[rose thorn]

Wiki.fandom.40khomebrew

[opaque coyote]

I like the power macuahuitl

[arctic talon]

Pls no

[queen laurel]

that's a cool Macuahuitl

[opaque coyote]

oh no

[rose thorn]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/succ-chapters-legions/images/f/ff/Rainbow_Warriors_Veteran_Legionary.png/revision/latest?cb=20210328014238

[spare osprey]

god

[arctic talon]

lol

[queen laurel]

pride parade marines

[rose thorn]

https://external-preview.redd.it/4ucvCZeUnH06cU6qGWHF5UzSn6e2TqE-MMX5gKOzLjY.jpg?auto=webp&s=bd7356eed03bd60cba82a089e3fc4a0422aca757

[rose thorn]

This one isn’t as bad

[spare osprey]

bet ik who made this btw

algrim

[arctic talon]

but rainbow warriors didn't have much

so people expanded on that lol

[rose thorn]

Why aztec shit tho

[arctic talon]

I think if we see them again in art in the future

they might have it

or they'll be plain

who knows

[arctic talon]

idfk

Lol

[queen laurel]

People just pick a random culture in the world and make a space marine out of it

nothing special really that's it

[rose thorn]

The rainbow warrior homebrew I’ve seen is like, prismatic shit and using lasers

And rainbow swords

At least it isn’t an utter flanderization like fandom mantis warriors

[arctic talon]

in any case their scheme is a nightmare to paint

lol

[spare osprey]

wait

[rose thorn]

One of these is not like the other

[arctic talon]

fucking evil ass helmet to paint

[queen laurel]

oh hey it's the marine you and i made fun of

[spare osprey]

why do the rainbow warriors represent an environmental ship sunk by the french

[arctic talon]

Homebrew wiki derogatory

[spare osprey]

lol

[arctic talon]

okay long story short Greenpeace did some weird shit

Rainbow warrior as a term origins from a christian evangelical wanting to convert native americans

[rose thorn]

Every day I want to gate keep warhammer more and more

[arctic talon]

and then like

[rose thorn]

These dnd YouTubers are awful

[arctic talon]

The uh

whats their name

[rose thorn]

Go back to making d20 jokes

[arctic talon]

oh yeah Greenpeace co-opted it for a ship

and then the french blew it up

with a bomb

in Australia

[spare osprey]

wth

[arctic talon]

and killed like 3 people lol

also there's some roots in Hawaiian culture iirc

but thats unrelated to the Christian Evangelical dude

[queen laurel]

hey now if you Gate keep warhammer the chances of people falling in love with gloomspite get lessened

[opaque coyote]

Probalby because the Aztecs saw rainbows as Quetzalcoatl. In general, they were considered manifestations of their own gods.

Also the general South American area fucking loves rainbows for some reason.

[spare osprey]

vtubers introduced to 40k by bricky are kinda annoying ngl

[arctic talon]

tbf

Rainbows go hard as hell

[rose thorn]

Rainbows are very fire

[arctic talon]

Also what was it

Aztecs thought Hummingbirds were extremely badass lol

because they're fast and aggresive

[rose thorn]

Every South American I know is viciously queer

[spare osprey]

bro knows multiple South America's

[opaque coyote]

tbf being suddenly shot by a gigantic rainbow laser does sound cool.

[arctic talon]

what people associate with stuff culturally varies

[queen laurel]

To be fair I would blame space marine two more for introducing more outsiders if we're doing that

[arctic talon]

at the end of the day lol

[rose thorn]

Yeah but if I hear “did you know the orks can imagine anything?”

Again

I’ll snap

[arctic talon]

I don't mind new people

as long as they actually learn

otherwise

SKINNING TIME

[opaque coyote]

Apparently for the Aztecs, every Hummingbird was actually a reincarnation of a warrior.

[spare osprey]

see i'm fine with a more broad audience, it's just that specific little group that are weird to me

[queen laurel]

Yeah having iron jaw grit is a blessing for someone like mea blessing for someone like me

[spare osprey]

like it's a whole genre

[opaque coyote]

So yeah for them, they basically were bloodthirsty

[rose thorn]

“Did you know the salamanders are the nicest space marines?”

[arctic talon]

HE'S LITERALLY ME!!!!!!!

[queen laurel]

I'm happy people genuinely get into warhammer after all I am a very nice guy and that but

misinformation literally runs so rampant in this community

[rose thorn]

“Did you know the grey knights return the soulstones to eldar”

[arctic talon]

I want to kill misinformation

[spare osprey]

ye

[queen laurel]

The the chances of someone entering the fandom and immediately learning something wrong

[rose thorn]

[arctic talon]

They did that literally once lol

ever

[queen laurel]

It's like 95%

[opaque coyote]

Rainbows in general are associated with beauty and of course... god/gods.

[arctic talon]

anyways

[spare osprey]

ork imagination powers

[arctic talon]

Death to meme lore

[spare osprey]

krieg

[arctic talon]

🔪

I will kill all meme lore

[spare osprey]

dark angels are traitors

[arctic talon]

if its the last thing I do

IT WILL ALL BURN

[rose thorn]

“Ork marines”

[spare osprey]

gman and what's her face

[opaque coyote]

to be honest, they probably have helped the traitors unintentionally with the fallen shit

[rose thorn]

We need to drill into new peoples heads don’t make custom primarchs

[queen laurel]

To be fair you would probably murder a warhammer fan if it means you get another Lancer expansion

[arctic talon]

spam this at new players

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/195404877688602624/864868025132122152/unknown.png?ex=6804545d&is=680302dd&hm=0b4d461cabf4be97a9d8f61123dd58f0ddbe96142bf02c636253a095e7b3efa8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=884&height=623

[rose thorn]

You should sign a deed with GW that you won’t do that

[arctic talon]

who like krieg

unironically this excerpt made me like the DKOK more

lol

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[arctic talon]

Anyways this should be mandatory reading

for DKOK

[queen laurel]

I mean like it's a really genuinely annoying that REAL DKOK lore is literally hard to find because of how

[opaque coyote]

this is why I like the DKOK tho

[arctic talon]

Drowned in meme lore it is?

[queen laurel]

Saturatedly misinformation it is

[arctic talon]

yeah

its great

[spare osprey]

when it comes to krieg i quite like uh

[queen laurel]

yeah like also orks

[spare osprey]

down amongst the dead men i think it is?

[arctic talon]

Deadmen walking is nice

[spare osprey]

ye

[queen laurel]

that's why i literally have an explanation ready to rifle out when someone say the ork psychic field don't help the weapons stay stable

[arctic talon]

Oh wtf

thats new

[rose thorn]

Thought this was AI

My brain has rotted

[arctic talon]

nah

[queen laurel]

We're getting to that point aren't we loon queen

[arctic talon]

the artist is just like that

lol

[spare osprey]

dude's training and a genestealer shows up on krieg in the middle of it

[opaque coyote]

Even then it sometimes still doesn't work

Since even in their hands, Ork Tech still fucking explodes due to being a piece of shit.

Which is funny

[spare osprey]

oh ok nvm

i was wrong about whose perspective it was

they're failed recruits turned targets lol

He had been rejected by the Korps’ recruiting sergeants. He wouldn’t have been given a reason. It might have been a lack of aptitude. More likely, they had found a flaw in his genetic makeup. One of the kinds that manifested during adulthood, undetectable in the vitae womb. A damned mutation!

This, then, was how he served, as a target for the draftee soldiers who until today had been his peers. A final test for them before they were shipped off-world to their first assignments. A live-ammunition training exercise.

[queen laurel]

Stop staring at Emma frost and focus you budget fallen

[spare osprey]

[queen laurel]

but also people still defend the imperium?

[spare osprey]

well uh

uh

human good

[queen laurel]

with shit like this

[spare osprey]

bug bad

[spare osprey]

ok so

this dude kills the genestealer

and then the Krieg lads shoot him on sight

He didn’t raise his own weapon in return.

Was it simply that he lacked the strength to do so? Or did the young trooper sense the futility of such an action? Had he thought himself safe because the exercise was over? At what point did he realise that this news hadn’t reached the enemy?

That their orders to kill on sight had not yet been countermanded?

Five of the six Death Korpsmen held their fire. There was no sense in wasting ammunition, after all. The sixth – the one that, by unspoken agreement, had the best shot – squeezed his trigger. He aimed for the eyepieces of his victim’s mask.

A single las-beam through the brain.

What final thoughts passed through the young trooper’s mind as he died?

Did he rail against the injustice of his demise: to be gunned down by one of his own kind after protecting their descendants from infection, safeguarding their people’s future? Hadn’t he proved the recruiting sergeants wrong about him, after all? Did he perhaps bemoan the fact that they would never be told of his heroism?

Or was it sufficient that his god, the Emperor, knew?

Perhaps he accepted a fate for which he had been thoroughly prepared. He might have felt contented, even, with the high price for which he had sold his life.

In the final analysis, of course, it didn’t matter.
It didn’t matter in the slightest what the young trooper felt or thought.
It never had.

pretty good krieg story

[queen laurel]

so yeah the humans are good guys

[spare osprey]

very good yes

[queen laurel]

trust

[opaque coyote]

I mean

Tbf for a regular person killing a Genestealer is a high price to sell your life

so

eh

could be worse

Jokes aside, it definitely shows why I like Krieg so much. They are cold.

They aren't even the most efficient. After all, there are many words the Imperium can be described as. Efficient isn't one of them.

They are the best encapsulation of the Imperium. Their soldiers are literally vat born and constantly churned out like machines.

They're still human, but they aren't treated as human.

A cult of sacrifice inside a cult of sacrifice.

Murder on automatic, for a reason that they probably don't even fully know the context of.

Perfect.

[crystal forum]

hey guys

funny story

the auspex tactics discord fucking exploded

[opaque coyote]

h u h

[opaque coyote]

context

[crystal forum]

so i got the notification while i was waiting for my flight

the discord's mod team took the decision to allow AI art and that was basically the announcement

i see AI art and immediately react with a 👎

[opaque coyote]

oh no

[crystal forum]

i go away

do shit

i look back

and the server was exploding during this

but democracy won the day

massive fucking W for that community

[opaque coyote]

all i can say is

the abominable intelligence has been eliminated

Praise the Omnissiah.

[crystal forum]

it was beautiful

everybody was shitting on AI in the channels

a bunch of the mods had threatened to resign over allowing AI too lol

the guy who took the decision in the first place was some moron anyways. he thought that it was too hard to tell what's AI and therefore no rule should be made against it

like brother just ban the obvious AI slop and let the art community report to you the hard to spot stuff it really isn't complicated

[spare osprey]

stone the 75 votes

https://tenor.com/view/stone-casting-throw-stones-gif-17442163

[crystal forum]

i have said it before and i will say it again

i will commission artists until the day i die

i do find it funny that i'm the first person to thumbs down the message

i thought it was a small server and i would get banned for it or smth

[arctic talon]

Auspex is a pretty big youtuber

even if his info on comp is like mostly sloptier for most factions

[winter vessel]

Ai art just lacks the human touch. The intent. To think of what you draw is one thing. But to put into action by hand is what lays the foundation

Sure it’s gonna not look great, depending on how high a standard one sets themselves, but as long as your consistent. It’ll have more depth than any prompt some tech geek types up.

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/team-updates-gif-26538482

last purchase of my life will be a comm, prob smth gay

i'll put that in my will

[opaque coyote]

Art needs a mind behind it.

Effort.

Action.

and creativity.

Although I do wonder something

If an AI actually becomes like fully Sapient, and instead of doing something like idk... leading humanity or destroying the world or whatever

It decides to paint because why the fuck not?