40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

why the fuck did they do that lol

do the red scorpions hate him?

We should put our chapter master in the dreadnought that makes you go insane

great idea brother

[vagrant fox]

it's the purity of the idea

[rose thorn]

what were all teh chapters involved in badab war?

[rocky gale]

Astral Claws

[winter vessel]

just look up the conflict and it'll list both sides

[rose thorn]

i knwo this is missing some

[storm jungle]

Gulf War ass lineup 💀

[vagrant fox]

I was just looking at it

[storm jungle]

Nah thats all of them

its more just uh

Huron's forces

[arctic talon]

Minotaurs(entire chapter)

[storm jungle]

legit did more than you'd expect

[vagrant fox]

I guess, technically, the trade lords?

[arctic talon]

they did not need to fucking say that

lol

[rose thorn]

the exorcists were invovled (for liek 5 minutes)

but also it might be old ass lore

[rocky gale]

Tyrants Legion carried hard

[rose thorn]

IM BLIND

I CANT READ

I THOUGH THTA SAID EXTREMUS

[winter vessel]

be a curve ball if one of them said '"both chapters"

[storm jungle]

also this yeah

its why people assume Huron had more chapters with him

and when in reality at the start of the war it was more "even" on both sides

[rose thorn]

Nova marines AND errant marines?

[storm jungle]

then it kinda spiraled

[rose thorn]

thats pretty bad lmao

wait, did, uh

errant marines nad nova marines hate each other

i cant remember

[winter vessel]

and the war happened all because Huron

[rose thorn]

OJIUFHBU

[rocky gale]

He was committing tons of fraud long before that

[vagrant fox]

Can't think of any particular Marines Errant vs Novamarines beef

[winter vessel]

Carcharodons way of showing up is still my favorite

[arctic talon]

the one with ISIS is even more absurd because it needs its own fucking page on wikipedia lol

[arctic talon]

oh

I hate that

LOL

[winter vessel]

"i'm bout to tank the economy with lead"-the force of Nature that is Balthasar Gelt

[storm jungle]

Franz would never place tarriffs on a man of his calibre

[arctic talon]

gelt paying with lead

[winter vessel]

i'd like to think he doesn't even use his spells in battle, he just transmutes an object into a lead brick, puts it in a wool tube sock and just goes to town on his enemies

[rose thorn]

insane sigmar looked at this man and went 'yes, perfect look for my demi god army'

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-i-love-gold-goldmember-gif-19735343

[rose thorn]

Refreshing warcom every hour hoping for anything

[arctic talon]

you're high on copium

[opaque coyote]

@arctic talon
https://youtu.be/5PFib1O5_YA?si=qjkR1qerugo7Yp2m

[arctic talon]

my GOAT

pickle

[opaque coyote]

I fucking love Goji Center

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-deviljho-gif-11184862

[opaque coyote]

Also the origin of the Godzilla meme where he has

No dick

No balls

[arctic talon]

wait no

thats not deviljho, why does it have that style of tail

[opaque coyote]

And probably no butthole since he feeds on radiation

[arctic talon]

wrong brute wyvern

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-gif-20162904

there we go

[vagrant fox]

Doomrider was referenced in 9th ed Necron codex
Is there hope for him?

[opaque coyote]

Pickle destroys competition

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[vagrant fox]

I genuinely want a new Doomrider model

[rose thorn]

Doom rider?

OH WANT

[rose thorn]

Insane that EC don’t have bikers

[nocturne crest]

Does any of the big four chaos legion have bikers?

[rose thorn]

Nope!!!!!!!

[tough haven]

Who up riding they doom?

[rose thorn]

Even though EC were big on bikes

Fucking WE dont have marines on juggernauts

THE EASIEST FUCKING UNIT YOU COULD DO

[vagrant fox]

How old are the chaos biker models anyway, they're getting up there in age

Man are they really from 1999, with raptors being from 2003

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Miniatures:_Chaos_Space_Marines

you'd be entirely correct

[vagrant fox]

I didn't want to believe that page 😔

[arctic talon]

lore wise EC and WE make use of them, tabletop wise get fucked

[rose thorn]

hey where shoudl i start in writing an imperial knight questor house

[arctic talon]

Top down, start with culture/name, then the noble court, then the house itself, then the planet and it’s people

[rose thorn]

noble court? like the literal monarchy

[arctic talon]

More so the organizational group

The High King/Queen

• their spouse

[rose thorn]

gotcha

[arctic talon]

the exalted court can look something like this

For questor Imperialis

[rose thorn]

OOOOO

[arctic talon]

I'm assuming you want like

[rose thorn]

YOINK

[arctic talon]

Questor Imperialis and not Questor Mechanicus

right

[rose thorn]

yes

[arctic talon]

then you can ignore all of these ranks

from the list I sent earlier

unless you want your House imperialis

to have them as well

[rose thorn]

cutlrue, thats the hardest part

[arctic talon]

Seneschal's are also a rank

(in some houses) ect.

houses can have dif ranks, if you like IRL knights and nobles

steal from them LOL

[arctic talon]

~~regarding this Imperial Knights are like the one remaining faction in 40k who are sexist assholes sometimes in either direction depending on House ~~

we have examples of houses only allowing women and houses only allowing men to pilot knights

So you can add that(if you want)

or don't

[rose thorn]

probably more ashetically than anything

i dont think im the fan of the racial cleansing knight houses and stuff lol

[arctic talon]

well yeah

but you know what I mean

[rose thorn]

i should pick an enviroment first and formost

since that would determine the cutlure

[arctic talon]

mhm

you can always do something basic like forest or plains or volcanic area

[rose thorn]

id liek a gas giant but that would be the hardest way to do it lmao

oh the knight hosue could be on a mood that orbits a gas planet

[arctic talon]

That works

[rose thorn]

The ground is for nobility, the lesser peoples float around space

paths the knights walk are paved into roads

gardens are grown within the palace, to be centered is to be true superiority

forced to practice mindfulness and spatial awareness, they pilot their knights gracefully through narrow pitfalls, fields of carefully stacked stones

I’ll sleep on it if I like it

that also opens alto of polarization too

young immature knights get sick of meditation and shit and will go on rampages

House Tensegrius ?

like Tensegrity

[arctic talon]

Not a bad name

Knights can do a lot name wise

[rose thorn]

the idea of a bunch of stones stacked on a knight to show their like, tranquility and groundedness is the motivator

meanwhile making the colonies on the gas planet hell because they are too inferior

ugh wanna play a knight pilot in a campaign now, probably just an arminger pilot but still

[arctic talon]

If only there was a 40k system that supported that

[rose thorn]

Are you memeing or serious

[tough haven]

I bet AOA has it

or some addon

[arctic talon]

There isn’t one as far as I know

[opaque coyote]

Hello chat

[arctic talon]

I’m being unironic

Like that wasn’t sarcasm

None of the rpg systems support that

You could jury rig the vehicle rules

For maledictum

If you wanted to

It would be rough though

[opaque coyote]

How does insisting that you're not sarcastic make it sound more sarcastic

[arctic talon]

Idk

Play Lancer

/hj

[opaque coyote]

I should

[arctic talon]

The gun that doesn’t exist

My beloved

[opaque coyote]

Seriously though I feel like trying to insist that you aren't like

Joking somehow makes it look like you are

"Trust me bro I'm not joking bro."

[arctic talon]

I’m being oppressed smh

[opaque coyote]

Reverse psychology type of thing

Ig

[rose thorn]

damn

[rose thorn]

i was thinking more like, bieng a pilot outside of the knight

probably playing a social role with some pistol stuff

[arctic talon]

Oh that works then

Any of the existing 40k ttrpg systems can support that

[rose thorn]

"were deploying on a planet"
"Sounds liek the perfect opertunnity to use my -"
"and going in teh sewer"
" "

[tough haven]

Theres also "Knights of the Imperium" for wrath and glory that allows it

whether you play as the vehicle or person, it works

[arctic talon]

oh wtf

I wasn't aware that was a thing

[arctic talon]

I cannot believe this is real LOL.

[summer mural]

im considering buying aliens dark descent

seems right up my alley

also the reviews are leaving me confused af

they keep trying to convince me there are some problems but they keep saying nice things

[sacred ginkgo]

I love that one I’ve seen it twice now

My personal take on meltas at this point is the nozzle is like a garden hose and you can turn it to widen the area and reduce the power proportionally

Fuck wrong chat

[outer wave]

I love that despite how awful the archon is to the populace, shes actually efficient as a governing head

[arctic talon]

Tbh she’s an Archon

She has to be good at that sort of stuff ironically

Especially if she’s part of a small kabal, though it’s likely she’s part of a larger one considering she’s able to take a “vacation” like this lol

[outer wave]

Considering Dark Eldar society, you'd think they wouldnt be good at actually running the damn place altogether

[arctic talon]

it’s only anarchy for the poor

The kabals, cults and covens are pretty organized

[outer wave]

Mmmm I see I see

[opaque coyote]

Gotta be organized TO suppress the poor

[arctic talon]

The safest parts of comorroagh are run by the Kabals

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

Kabals respond to violence not caused by them in their territory uh

violently

[opaque coyote]

"A noble was stabbed."

"He should stop crying then."

"By a poor person."

"WHAT???"

[arctic talon]

Tbh point being if you want to live a not awful life as a drukhari

Being a super super low down member of a kabal or wych cult is the way to go

The random person who plans out dinners, the person who sharpens knives

Ect. Lol

You’ll still have protection from the kabal/wych cult

But you’re so low down you’re not in danger of someone envying your position in life

[arctic talon]

Tbh they’d prolly laugh their asses off before turning whoever stabbed the kabalite inside out

[outer wave]

I presume being part of a Haemonculi cult as a lower positioned fella is basically you being a free experiment?

[arctic talon]

Yeah being in a haemonculi coven requires you to get experimented on to become a wrack

From there your life is uh

Not ideal

But you get to experience a lot of new things

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/0/05/Wrack.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181026200626

Wracks tend to be full of weird experimental stuff

That isn’t too unstable

[outer wave]

Do they come out each being unique?

[arctic talon]

They tend to be very unique internally and some other things though the major covens and haemonculi have different styles they like

I.E the coven of 12’s wracks are always skinless

But yeah they’re very varied

Though the ones on the tabletop are an example of a popular “in style” version right now

[outer wave]

Mmm I see I see

[opaque coyote]

The equivalent to a fashion magazine model

actually now i'm imagining like

a Slaaneshi Fashion magazine

Probably be a mixture of "Actual unironic hardcore BDSM"

and "actual fashion"

[arctic talon]

Kabalites and haemonculi are funnily enough both big on fashion

Wych’s are the least into it which is hilarious

[arctic talon]

Comorroagh fashion magazines would go crazy tbh

They’d recommend grafting on nid parts

Because it’s all the rage lol

[dry epoch]

“The skin to be seen in this season’.

[dusky scroll]

This may not be exactly relevant in this channel-
Is Age of Sigmar different than Warhammer Fantasy?
I thought Age of Sigmar is like 30K era of Wh40k. Where a lot of lore takes place but not playable.

[languid meadow]

Nah AoS is the sequel to WHF

It has a lot of the characters and factions from WHF but changed

Also new ones

[queen laurel]

^
aos is the result of fantasy ending

[celest dome]

the new Old World is the 30k of Battle Fantasy

[queen laurel]

as the magics became the realms

[celest dome]

Weren't there implications that there already existed realms in Battle Fantasy (or at least during the End Times)

[storm jungle]

Age of Sigmar is the sequel setting to WHF after the world gets destroyed and Sigmar gets a second wind + brings back the strongest individuals from each faction in Fantasy as Gods of Order and their followers settle on the 8 realms spread across time and space while being relatively close to each other.

AOS is a lot more high fantasy mixed with low fantasy elements.

its a lot more Sword & Sorcery

[queen laurel]

yeah i heard that's a thing

[languid meadow]

Such is the will of Nagash

[arctic talon]

Stormcast with a sword

Always feels weirdly cursed

[queen laurel]

know that i looked at them they use mainly blunt weapons for melee

hammers

which makes sense after all

sigmar's main weapon was Ghal'maraz

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/odinson-thor-are-you-the-god-of-hammer-gif-14803668

[arctic talon]

Blunt force weapons are good at killing other armored targets

And oh boy do stormcast fight those a lot

[storm jungle]

Stormcasts look heroic until you see them crush someones skull in with a flat ended hammer

💀

[arctic talon]

The chaos warriors 10000 year old plate when it meets a hammer

(It’s going to suck)

[arctic talon]

Based

[queen laurel]

i mean yeah they do

[storm jungle]

Yeah the implication of the blunt weapons they use is so fucking funny

like

[languid meadow]

Stormcasts with halberds are my favourite

[storm jungle]

its THE most brutal CQC weapon imo

[arctic talon]

Sugmar dick as a joke in universe when

[storm jungle]

you joke

[arctic talon]

If they were spiked it would be even more brutal tbh

[storm jungle]

but we had catachan norris jokes in Deathworlder

[arctic talon]

But yeah hammers are like

[storm jungle]

also Adamantium balls is a thing now

so like

[arctic talon]

That

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

A hammer is meant to just

Kill another person in armor lol

There’s not much elegance or grace to it

[languid meadow]

Vibrating you to death

[arctic talon]

It’s going to beat the metal and you to a pulp lol

[queen laurel]

they also use a lot of axes

[arctic talon]

Especially since this is a magical hammer

[queen laurel]

Now that I look at it a lot of factions use weapons where you put all of the weight on like

A single tip

[arctic talon]

The axes and halberds are cool

Tbh

[storm jungle]

thats because pointy-sticc is superior

[arctic talon]

I’m just not the biggest fan of swords for stormcast

[queen laurel]

axes and hammers

[storm jungle]

no joke

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-syndrome-oh-come-on-you-gotta-admit-this-is-cool-this-is-cool-cool-gif-25188857

[arctic talon]

I’m not sure why

Like

Pole arms and blunt force weapons = yes

Sword = no

[queen laurel]

Gavriel Sureheart the final form of sword and shield mains

[languid meadow]

I need to watch daredevil

[storm jungle]

Same

im 1 season behind

guh

[arctic talon]

1e AoS was kind of lame I’m ngl

2e tho

[storm jungle]

shut the fuck up its artwork

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

actually you're right tho I should update this

[arctic talon]

I’m being oppressed

[queen laurel]

To be honest I wouldn't mind breaking into your house and jamming a data slug on your brain about AOS lore

[storm jungle]

its like

6 years old

i forgot when i even made this

lol

[arctic talon]

I like to imagine stormcast hammers are like 40k thunder hammers

Except with actual fucking lightning

[storm jungle]

they are all imbued with magic so yeah that checks out

[arctic talon]

I know they’re not like that at all in lore always

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-19949441

[arctic talon]

But like the idea of it just making a loud ass thunder sound and lightning going everywhere on impact

[queen laurel]

Me watching a warhammer fan try to kill me with racial slurs after I calmly explained to him that a magical axe can theoretically defeat his power weapon

[arctic talon]

Makes the dopamine go in my brain

Stormcast aren’t even my favorite AoS faction

[languid meadow]

Obsessed with marathons art direction

So colourful

[arctic talon]

It’s so pretty

Shame it’s uh

A BR extraction shooter

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-care-sandman-flint-marko-spider-man-no-way-home-idc-gif-25180146

[arctic talon]

I wish it was a single player game

Lol

It is very pretty though

The aesthetic direction is good

[languid meadow]

It looks like a mix of hunt and tarkov

[queen laurel]

I just finished the Goliath House of chains rule book now for the ash waste nomads

[languid meadow]

Also the ozymandias poem is in the og trilogy iirc

Which makes me happy

[arctic talon]

Bro can perfect rush

There’s something that quotes durendel

In the new marathon stuff

Either that or it is them

Ngl I hope some of the monster hunter world weapons come back as cosmetics. Even if I hated the whole no unique monster weapon stuff going on

[languid meadow]

I do wonder when the new marathon takes place but like marathons story after 2 is aughhhhhh

[arctic talon]

Some of the weapons were very pretty

[arctic talon]

Who knows

It’s so

Vague rn imo

[storm jungle]

Bro Daredevil's first show S3 is 13 eps long????

bruh

ITS GONNA TAKE ME A WEEK

[arctic talon]

Welcome to hell

[late osprey]

Look. Hammers, Maces, Axes, all of that is cool

Just don't be one of those " 🤓 erm actually le spear is le most powerful weapon of the pre-modern period"

[arctic talon]

Empire greatswords being worthless on the tabletop and in total war

[late osprey]

That's how you get me to show you the most powerful weapon (my hunting rifle) abetted by proper support (my hunting dogs)

[arctic talon]

I don’t care about the irl effectiveness of weapons in my funny fantasy setting I’m ngl

If it looks cool it’s good

[dusky scroll]

So, Sigmar is a future character that will come and unify a bunch of Fantasy factions to fight against forces of chaos?

What happens to those who are not non-human and not aligned with Chaos?

Like, Vampires, Tomb Kings, Norscans (I think), Skaven, Ogre? Do they join order or chaos?

[late osprey]

That's why I won't hunt you down with my hunting hounds.

[arctic talon]

No

[late osprey]

But such cretins exist in far too large amasses, alas.

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-tf2engineer-use-a-gun-and-if-that-dont-work-gif-17911768

[queen laurel]

They become their own pantheons

[arctic talon]

Sigmar exists in whfb

[queen laurel]

The pantheon of death

[arctic talon]

He becomes a god during end times

[queen laurel]

and the pantheon of destruction

[arctic talon]

And then end times Happens and the world fucking explodes

[languid meadow]

Gun smoke + reload mod and it's peak

[arctic talon]

Real

People complaining empire infantry sucks don’t get empire

[summer mural]

the end times dont exist, tell everyone that

[arctic talon]

It’s meant to hold the line

[storm jungle]

Well not "will", he already did, but the Order factions are very fractious due to their nature, its just that Chaos is way worse so they stick together.

The End Times happened, the world is gone, the Old World we have now is a "this is before that happened" setting. And most of the factions survived through various means,

[arctic talon]

Until your good units can uh

kill them

[late osprey]

Empire are THE combined arms faction

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[late osprey]

everything else is a one-trick by comparison

[arctic talon]

Every unit has a role to play

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer-fantasy-total-war-warhammer-handgunners-gif-16598419

[languid meadow]

TKs are still not in AoS yeah? Since Nagass being himself

[arctic talon]

They’re sort of

[languid meadow]

We already have a bunch of undead

[arctic talon]

But no not really

There’s new Nehekara

[summer mural]

ossiarch are better

[arctic talon]

Which is uh

[storm jungle]

Theres a reason Norsca only won through plot armor

me when the dumbass caveman viking chares a gunline of muskets

[arctic talon]

Nepherata’s thing

[arctic talon]

rats

Rat armor

[summer mural]

bonereapers have a better aesthetic, and tombking like to some degree

but not tombkings no

[storm jungle]

Ossiarchs are more japanese

with a mix of greek

[arctic talon]

But yeah new nehakara is a thing

And we dunno what it is

[summer mural]

what aos needs is the one and only settra

[arctic talon]

But nothing nepherata

[summer mural]

to unite the mortal realms

[storm jungle]

We do. Its basically just a vampire City 17

[arctic talon]

She’s making tomb kings 2

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Seriously

[storm jungle]

I have read the books, its great

[summer mural]

isnt nefarata a vampire mortarch

[languid meadow]

At least settra is in Old world his ending is still funny to me

[arctic talon]

Nepherata is going in the 99% isopropyl bath for that one

[languid meadow]

"no fuck off"

[storm jungle]

Yeah she is

[arctic talon]

I need to strip the primer off her for a friend anyways lol

[summer mural]

settra's consistency as a character is the only reason I like him lmao

[arctic talon]

Settra is so funny

[summer mural]

"NO I REALLY JUST DONT SERVE"

[arctic talon]

Nagash is even funnier

He became an even bigger dick

As a god

Who could have guessed

[storm jungle]

Honestly like

people that rant on about characters like Erebus

legit got no idea how bad Nagash is

this man's evilness legit led him to fucking godhood

[summer mural]

nagash is never going away too is he, killing him does nothing

[storm jungle]

hes a literal He-Man villain

[languid meadow]

Such is the power of nagash

[arctic talon]

Nagash is genuinely like

The most evil character GW has ever made

[storm jungle]

Hes not even unhinged.

[queen laurel]

For the crime of being a good man and being a genuinely upstanding moral person I sentence you in the flogging chamber for 1 billion years

[arctic talon]

It’s not even close

[storm jungle]

Hes just Nagash.

[arctic talon]

He’s just an asshole

Lol

Like

[storm jungle]

best part of his lore

[arctic talon]

Chaos characters are evil

To serve chaos

[summer mural]

nagash the type of guy to fly the black pyramid into the twin towers while cackling " SUCH IS THE POWER OF NAGASH"

[storm jungle]

your crime for suffering forever is that you were a good person IRL

[arctic talon]

Nagash is just doing it for the love of the game

[languid meadow]

Another 7 rattillion warp nukes to his realm ! ! !

[storm jungle]

MY LORD SETTRA

ANOTHER OBELISK HAS HIT THE PYRAMIDS

[arctic talon]

Such is the power of nagash

[queen laurel]

settra another necro magic barrage has hit the north pyramid

[languid meadow]

I got someone back in the CBT era to recite his whole ass title speech in general

I gotta find it

[arctic talon]

LOL

Nagash is genuinely perfect

No one matches his sheer

[summer mural]

him being like, the god of death isnt helpful either

[arctic talon]

Pettiness, assholishness

[summer mural]

its not like he became the god of ice or something

[arctic talon]

General enjoyment of being awful

[summer mural]

he cant even die

[arctic talon]

Tbh

He did eat shit recently

He’s still recovering

[languid meadow]

#general-chat message found it

[summer mural]

wheres my boy nekaph

need him to recite it

[arctic talon]

Nekaph is prolly dead

Unless Nagash brought him back

If nagash did bring him back he’s prolly in some weird torture hell existence

Because nagash is nagash

[summer mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1361025976297066679/99852717004_WHTOWTKNekaphEmissaryOfSettra01.png?ex=67ff3bf7&is=67fdea77&hm=4bc942bc4db92a52ee3f397fcf1c8abadef1859c1e458b13069b07c28f6f0787&

my beloved

[arctic talon]

We should give nagash skaven nukes

I am sure he would use them responsibly

[summer mural]

also casual herald of settra carrying around a flail weaponized with the skulls of kings

[arctic talon]

It’s because he’s so cool

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/tomb-kings-army-warhammer-total-war-desert-army-undead-army-total-war-warhammer-gif-17783356

I love tomb kings !

[arctic talon]

Also I like how there was a Stormcast who wasn’t settra and called himself Settrus

And manfred killed them once he realized it wasn’t settra

Because he wasn’t afraid LOL

[arctic talon]

Good aesthetic

[dusky scroll]

When do the Total War WH games take place?

[queen laurel]

Hey to be fair he kind of got washed by a certain gold loving fella

[storm jungle]

Pre-end times

[summer mural]

after karl franz becomes emperor

[storm jungle]

they arent canon

[summer mural]

and they arent canon yeah, its a sandbox

[arctic talon]

There’s also characters out of time

Like several lol

[summer mural]

youve got repanse and louen operating at the same time

and youve belakor actually doing stuff in the mortal realm

[arctic talon]

The goblin dude

Grom

[queen laurel]

grom is alive

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-time-david-tennant-wobbly-timey-wimey-stuff-gif-8120490

[arctic talon]

Grom wasn’t in ulthan then

His presence is the wrong time period

[queen laurel]

You also have characters that aren't even a thing in fantasy like psychostroa dio fan

[summer mural]

cylostra is underrated

[queen laurel]

i do not know her name i don't play vampire coast much

[summer mural]

her campaign is decent

also her story is decent

[arctic talon]

Her design is cool

Why is arenessa VC btw

[late osprey]

afaik pretty much only Total Warhammer 1 is actually strictly lore accurate

[arctic talon]

She’s a normal human pirate

[summer mural]

also youve got helman ghorst, whos like a sentence of lore

[queen laurel]

she is?

[late osprey]

they started going off the rails in the latter 2 for more gameplay

[arctic talon]

Yes

[languid meadow]

Still trying to figure out who the Slaanesh lord is going to be (I'm too lazy to look for interesting Slaanesh characters)

[summer mural]

isnt aranessa undead

[queen laurel]

no wonder she doesn't look vampiric as shit

[arctic talon]

Well “normal”ish

No

She’s human

[summer mural]

hmmm

[arctic talon]

Unless something changed

She’s human

[summer mural]

didnt she drown at some point

although I do agree shes more norscan and she hates them, than she is a vampire

[arctic talon]

Nvm she did die

Lol

[summer mural]

lol

[late osprey]

well the main thing to remember is there actually are deities in warhammer fantasy

that actually do stuff

[arctic talon]

She’s just dead in lore

[late osprey]

so theres a sea god and stuff

[arctic talon]

She almost drowned once

And then she died the second time

[summer mural]

isnt she like manaan or mathlanns main go to gal

[arctic talon]

I guess total war is a what if she got vamped

Yeah

[queen laurel]

why does norsca hate her by the way

[summer mural]

she hates them

idr why, but she truly hates them

its a big part of her personality

and she is norscan

like, originally

i think

[languid meadow]

Can't wait for the billionth empire dlc where we get Ulric stuff

[summer mural]

i actually am good with teutogen guard

if they do that

which they wont probably

also i am down for next dlc including high elves

give me caradryan as a legendary hero

[languid meadow]

If they're still following the roadmap from years ago which by the past dlcs they are, Slaanesh and HE should be the next races

[summer mural]

slaanesh is confirmed

high elves is most likely

third faction is anyones guess, but it should be norsca

can be anything though

[spring cairn]

Norsca are already perfect

[arctic talon]

Total war AoS someday

Source

[summer mural]

give them a legendary lord lmao

[arctic talon]

My insomnia induced visions

[spring cairn]

they're the bottom of the barrel snow monkeys they deserve to be

[arctic talon]

Lol

[summer mural]

give them sayl

[arctic talon]

Being a norsca fan is suffering

[languid meadow]

Also high elves need a rework similar to empire with influence or whatever they have

[queen laurel]

you just don't want them getting something new to crush your empire play through

[arctic talon]

good

Norsca fans suffering brings me joy/j

[summer mural]

i am more excited for high elf units than I am a new lord

aislinn is boring af

[spring cairn]

what would you even give them

[arctic talon]

Nothing

Integrate them with chaos warriors

Lol

[spring cairn]

more chaff infantry with low armour to get shredded by missiles

[arctic talon]

Even GW did this

Back in the day for whfb

[queen laurel]

Maybe some better mechanics really

[arctic talon]

Norsca fan tears fuel GW

[spring cairn]

yeah because they can't be separated from CW

all chaos warriors are Norscans

[queen laurel]

Like Throgg and Wulfrik are like older than the dilara at this point

[spring cairn]

well most of

[arctic talon]

Just ducking combine them at this point imo

[queen laurel]

Like honestly I think they can work if you just like fix their mechanics

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/impossible-star-wars-mark-hamill-luke-skywalker-gif-5440327

[languid meadow]

I've seen enough add more skinwolves

[arctic talon]

Me to anyone who wants to buy Cathay

[queen laurel]

Wulfrik needs fast travel on his monster hunting

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

My guy why the **** do I have to sail the seven seas to get to a ******* mammoth

[summer mural]

cathay will definitely get more dlc lol, monkey king and li dao are gonna get their time

[languid meadow]

The terracotta sentinels look so good

[arctic talon]

Cathay’s minis in old world

Look so much better then their models and art in total war lol

[summer mural]

yeah

[arctic talon]

It’s insane how the small changes worked out

[languid meadow]

Jade warriors already looked good

[summer mural]

i dont blame em though

[languid meadow]

The models look better

[summer mural]

like old world tomb kings

are insane

[arctic talon]

Unfortunately

Curse of 45 year old horse archers

/hj

[summer mural]

the priest king in old world tomb kings looks absolutely amazing compared to the ingame generic king

[arctic talon]

I think it’s like 25 years old

All I know is that those horse archers are prehistoric

And 100% older then me

[queen laurel]

Hey at least I can bring something in the game from that through the magic of steam

she genuinely looks better in old world

[arctic talon]

Lol that was fast

Yeah her mini design is much better

Anyways I wonder if they’ll do the dragon kids in the same order as total war

Or if they’ll do a different one

[summer mural]

yuan bo looks great in total war ngl

in his human form

[queen laurel]

i want to see how they will cook the iron dragon i'm gonna be honest

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[spring cairn]

I like min miao ying better but I think she looks fine in game

[languid meadow]

Sauce king

[spring cairn]

tbh

[summer mural]

that warpstone addled , ogre loving , muddle minded mamas boy?

[languid meadow]

Yuan is peak

[arctic talon]

Oh all their stuff looks fine in game

I don’t think it looks bad

Except the Junk

I find that one kind of ugly

[queen laurel]

yes

[arctic talon]

The old world stuff just looks better

[summer mural]

to be fair, the lanterns as a mini is one of the best things ive seen

its so Clean and detailed

[arctic talon]

Steal them for AoS

AoS and old world players stealing bits from each other

[summer mural]

aos : archaon or sigmar

[arctic talon]

Is the funniest shit ever

The dragon emperor is still an unresolved end times plot thread lol

[queen laurel]

If only they can just agree and get along each other but for that to happen it's the equivalent of elite wolf accepting orruks as a great name

[arctic talon]

He fucked off with his wife and kids when Cathay fell lol

[queen laurel]

it's ******* impossible

[arctic talon]

Orruks sucks, you cannot convince me it’s good

[summer mural]

turns out the celestial city has a great view of the chaos wastes, I have a feeling the dragon emperor was just staring into it and setting up a shrine to tzeentch in his freetime

[arctic talon]

Lol

[queen laurel]

why do you think i make these jokes it's funny and entertaining for me

[arctic talon]

Me to you/j

[celest dome]

So in theory we could see the Dragon Children in AOS ? Could be fun to see what happen to human that have been in the presence of Dragons for so long

[arctic talon]

In theory yes

[celest dome]

||hot||

[arctic talon]

In execution Idfk if GW will ever touch it

[summer mural]

i hope the fyreslayers slaughter them for fun

[arctic talon]

Maybe like 5 to 10 years in the future

I think GW is concerned with finishing off their existing AoS stuff they’ve mentioned

And then expanding ranges

[celest dome]

Still think that one of the Dragon Child should be stuck in-between transformation.
Monster Infantry lord

[summer mural]

shouldnt they do like a thicc army for malerions elves already

[arctic talon]

Prolly this or next edition

It’s coming

I’m never going to get my dream tabletop wargame smh

Then again it’s whatever

I’m sure it would be niche as fuck lol

[celest dome]

Tbh, I was thinking that Malerions would get Lumineth Realm-lords, but painted as to depict darkness instead

[arctic talon]

Lol

Not a bad idea

[summer mural]

thats such an out for gw

[arctic talon]

Though he’s got some weird shit going on

So unlikely

[summer mural]

i want them to put more work into it

[arctic talon]

Imo they’re def gona look fucked up and weird

Not sure what direction they’ll go aesthetically

Beyond shadows

[celest dome]

Other than Malerions', are there other factions that have been teased about ?
Chaos Dwarfs I remember

[summer mural]

HASHUT

[languid meadow]

Can't wait

[celest dome]

Well Lexianum has a page on it, but not sure how up to date it would be
https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lexicanum:_Hinted_factions

[queen laurel]

bro just wants kaido

[celest dome]

I'll be honest, sure

[summer mural]

i bet felix is gonna get his own faction

hel come back as the god of love and peace or something

[storm jungle]

no

[celest dome]

Felix returning as a Vamp

[arctic talon]

Felix returning as a chaos warrior/j

[summer mural]

aos will end the exact same way as fantasy, except instead of sigmar gotrek and felix are gonna show up and oneshot archaon

[arctic talon]

This is super out of date lol

And some of these are derranged

Fun list though

[celest dome]

Root-King could be interesting, forest themed Dwarfs, though that could simply by made from Dispossessed

[arctic talon]

They’re dispossessed

Unfortunately

The 3e cities of sigmar book confirmed it

I want new dispossessed minis

[celest dome]

So other than CDwars and Malerion's there isn't any other, some of the current factions do need some big update though, so not a bad thing

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Well there’s uh

There’s the weird ass bug people

[celest dome]

Silent People, just saw it

[arctic talon]

But yeah the rest of those exist or like

Are deconfirmed to be seperate

Firmir got sent to lore only land

Until GW decides to do like an underworld warband or something

[celest dome]

Tbh if I were to decide on creating a new a new faction, I'd probably chose for Death or Destruction
Death getting something themed on the Necrach (Experimental/Frankenstein like things, more set on fewer stronger undeads and servants)
Destruction maybe getting something out of the left field and getting Savaged Lizardmen

[lament shoal]

Does the imperium have worlds in other parts of the universe or has its influence been limited to just the milky way galaxy so far?

[celest dome]

Milky Way

[lament shoal]

Ty

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are essentially stretched across the milky way with a "million worlds"

(the milky way has over 100-400 Billion)

[languid meadow]

skill issue honestly I would have them all

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-spiderverse-into-the-spiderverse-spider-noir-spidergwen-gif-26876252

[dapper gyro]

The Andromeda galaxy is too far for even the Necron Silent King to reach.

[plush mason]

and the warp in intergalatic space is just dead basically

no mortal minds/souls to give it currents and what not

so its just impassible to any warp based travel

[raven stone]

Slight bit of work daydreaming

Imagine if I knew how to port the Darktide Veteran voices as mod to XCom 2 WoTC...

[plush mason]

port it to RT and give them to the voidsmen on the ship

[raven stone]

That would also be nice

[late osprey]

do they still call it the milky way in the 41st millennium?

[storm jungle]

yes

[late osprey]

its probably not very milky-looking after the rift innit

does the church force them to keep calling it the milky way?

[storm jungle]

Idfk

they prob just say "the Imperium"

[late osprey]

do they tell the original greek fables to explain why its called the milky way?

[celest dome]

It's cause we're obsessed about Breasts

[late osprey]

hera's, to be precise

do you guys think romeo kills tybault with a bolt pistol in 40k era performances?

or would they be more traditional and have it be a chainsword

[rocky gale]

As a noble he would likely use a power sabre

[summer mural]

wow

tyrion brutally tortured and executed Korhil Lion Mane in the end times?

wasnt korhil like, his childhood mentor

[plush mason]

didnt he basically have a role reversal with Malikith?

[summer mural]

kinda

tyrion also executed aislinn

imrik became best buds with malekith

tyrion and morathi hooked up

so yes

role reversal

[plush mason]

i want to be shocked by this, but it is Morathi

[summer mural]

well

she has quite the influence on folks

[plush mason]

something Sigmar found out the hard way i hear

[rocky gale]

Navigator model?

Either navigator with a staff that has an ancestors skull in it or a witchhunter inquisitor

[rose thorn]

What’s the next like, major reveal event

Ie adepticon or nova

Had to close Reddit again people are people are stupdi

People complaining they were mislead by gw

They thoguht it was the year of chaos for 40K

[shadow plover]

wasn't last year the year of chaos

[rocky gale]

Na this year

[scenic bolt]

every year is the year of the space marine

[rocky gale]

It just started in like December for some reason

[shadow plover]

ah, well I suppose it just means the codex releases for this year 🤷‍♂️

and we did get a new chaos army

[raven stone]

I would be really surprised if it was a Navigator, because it means GW actually giving a shit about Imperial Agents.

(What next, a Navigator focused detachment in June...!?)

[rocky gale]

One chaos army, 4 space marine armies. The year of chaos

[young pecan]

What exactly is an anima in Mechanicus language?

[rose thorn]

My thinking is that it’s a limited event model

[shadow plover]

I meant DG, TS and Chaos Knights getting their 10th ed codex this year, additionally a brand new EC army

[rose thorn]

And we

But they are getting 1 hero except TS, which gets 1 unit

CK getting another upgrade sprue

[rose thorn]

Refreshing warcom to see what space marine reveal there will be today

[queen laurel]

they did an entire celebration section for a tank

[rose thorn]

i know then reveald another vehicle

[raven stone]

GW being GW this means a Land Raider Retirement.

Or a Land Raider Primaris scale up.

Chances are actually 50/50 on this.

[rose thorn]

on better new im quite excited for new eidiotn of malifaux

when the new starter boxes release ill probably be playing nexus

who is the insect hivemind that mindcontrol people with brain parasites

[queen laurel]

i like the Bayou

they look like goofy hilarious fellas

[rose thorn]

valid af

not a fanof the green guys, tehy all seem really similar

any hero you like specifically?

i do like the brew master

[queen laurel]

these guys?

[rose thorn]

valid

the chidl abuse kinfs

kings

also quite fond of

[sly ivy]

….

y

[queen laurel]

You get used to it after some point

and to be honest it's not as bad to them

Because they at least have different enough body shapes that you don't have to lose your mind over it

[rose thorn]

to be fair its a redneck joke

also i think shes breast feeding in that picture

[queen laurel]

yeah it's a kid

[nocturne crest]

So does anyone think this is a psyker or navigator for inquisitors, something for the black templars or the grey knights?

[rose thorn]

greyknights
lmao

i thought a tfirst it was a stormcast thing

but we dont use that many bolts

its porbbaly like "rondus wych slayer, killer of psykers"

or

never mind i thouhg it coudl be a KO thing

but theres no tzeentch humans with 3 eyes

[celest dome]

Archeon's new Mini

[rose thorn]

lmao

a KO guy who is obsessed with killing tzeentch peoples would be cooll

so he can cast endelss spells

[nocturne crest]

KO?

[raven stone]

Probably limited edition Navigator thing. Or HH era Navigator.

Any more and GW is at risk of giving too much attention to Imperial Agents.

Which they are loathe to do.

[rose thorn]

kharadron overlords

[nocturne crest]

AH

[rose thorn]

i think they have a relic that elts them stop enemies form casitng spells

but thats their only option

for anytihng magic

beisdes allies

whcih i think its only black talons being their only viable regimetn of renown

maybe saviors of cinderfall

whcih both of those are already the best rors in teh game

[queen laurel]

this?

[rose thorn]

ye

i dont htink they ahve nay more unbounds

maybe the aether navigator

a melee anti wizard hero/character would be very nice for the army

[queen laurel]

on the money

[rose thorn]

ice

itsn it stupid expensive liek

160 points

its priced ilke a wizard

130

thats an okay price

but the relic is porbably just better

yea h you just bring the relic detachemetn unelss you are doing spam

er battlefomration

[sly ivy]

I was wondering lol

[rose thorn]

hey this is pretty cool

minor complaing but ithink its obvious who their favorites are

comapring these two to

[dapper gyro]

What the fuck is this furry thing?

That crusader helm on the IF looks weird.

[shadow plover]

because it's based on a real tabletop model

and why THAT exists, is because space wolves are weird

[rose thorn]

I wish they kept how bricky the hodl helmet is

[dapper gyro]

I know about that, but it is still as cursed as ever.

[spring cairn]

isn't that a 30k thing tho

[shadow plover]

no, this one

[storm jungle]

Some modern minis have it

but like

on its 30k release it was so badly recieved

it literally instantly got replaced

so theres actual precedence for hating on this dumbass helmet

[spring cairn]

ok cool, it looks like dogshit in both instances tho

[storm jungle]

Correct take

[shadow plover]

well it's a space wolf

what did you expect

[storm jungle]

thats not an excuse

you can make something cooler like the wolfpriest helmet

[spring cairn]

i've always hated space wolves so more fuel for my burning rage is always welcomed

[storm jungle]

which is a fucking cool ass wolf skull

so like, no

[storm jungle]

[spring cairn]

i'm trying to see the thing i'm shooting at but there's this big ass wolf snout in the way

[storm jungle]

Also while i was trying to find this image my search options were filled with nothing but people hating on them, jesus its a lot

[spring cairn]

good

[shadow plover]

I know people who liked these

[spring cairn]

excellent

[shadow plover]

I didn't

but I don't hate them any more than any other wolf model

[storm jungle]

Its entirely okay to hate it.

just let the hatedom flow

[spring cairn]

i hate everything space wolves but i hate the wolf head helmets more so

if we don't chastise this who knows what deviant new idea GW might come up with next

Like giving Taus cow helmets

[storm jungle]

Thats the funny thing tho

Those helmets instantly got replaced from the backlash lol

ive never seen something like it before

Heres the replacements

[spring cairn]

much better

still kept the corny fang/wolf teeths look

but avoided the furry convention

[shadow plover]

SW are so much better looking whenever they do the viking stuff instead of the wolf stuff

[rocky gale]

I know a lot of people who wanted to get space wolfs because of these

[spring cairn]

yes

i wouldn't hate them as much if they had doubled down on the norse shit and cast aside the puppy stuff

[raven stone]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qzrxxger/space-marine-2-dlc-space-wolves-and-imperial-fists-take-on-the-trygon/

This pretty much confirms it

Russ and Dorn are coming back to 40k era

Knowing GW they are making sure all the signs are lining up

[shadow plover]

Not sure if being sacrastic or not

[spring cairn]

Dorn will return as a head in a toilet bowl

[summer mural]

is that story dlc

[shadow plover]

we need this

[summer mural]

whats with the tzeentch one though

is that a knuckle

or is that a slaaneshi thing

[raven stone]

Fist

As in Crimson Fist helmet

[summer mural]

its dornes fist? his imperial fist?

oh i thought those were monogod themed

[spare osprey]

The crimson fist helmet is something a decepticon would unironically have as a face

[rose thorn]

whos the frog

[shadow plover]

salamander

[rose thorn]

oh

[tough haven]

I actually like the space wolves as a concept, but its done just SO fucking poorly

[vagrant fox]

It is unfortunate

[outer wave]

Would the Iron Warrior just be a lil iron warrior as a head?

[lament shoal]

They're never beating the furry allegations

[lament shoal]

Tbh they cooked with the salamander champion skin as well

[winged jacinth]

His head is another body waist up, and its head is another body waist up, so on and so forth

[hallow plover]

I think i prefer the wolf helmets... 😬

[winged jacinth]

I don't really like either helmet

I think snout no ears could have worked

And i like the different forehead embellishments in concept but they look like funny little skullcaps

[hallow plover]

I don't like either but if I would have to choose i'd go full space wolf

[winged jacinth]

The ancient legends rarely mention Russ's golden yarmulkes

[bold veldt]

i think the reason i wouldnt like the helmets is the fact that authors write up the sw’s like they bark..

and i dont like that

[rose thorn]

i feel like all of the dlc helmets arent great

teh ravenguard beaky feels pretty stumpy

god i hate sapce wolves

[hallow plover]

I would just embrace the wolf memes at this point. But I don't care about SW so that's why. I get why a SW fan might not like it

[outer wave]

Amazing

[dapper gyro]

There is viking theme and there is furry meme...

GW with its infinite wisdom went with the furry...

At least RG gets the elegant beaky,

[remote widget]

The emperor loves his sons, even the fallen, and that people thinks he doesnt is the most misinterpreted part of guillimans visit to the emperor

He says/beams all the things at the same time, but that has to be written as a list for literacy, it's showing his fractured mind, not a glimpse into machievellian manipulation

[storm jungle]

no

[hallow plover]

[summer mural]

how do the elven gods work in fantasy

like is asuryan actually around

and alarielle is the uhh..isha girl?

or is that ariel

[hallow plover]

Alarielle?

[summer mural]

and orion basically embodies kurnous?

[summer mural]

alarielle the everqueen

the ulthuan queen

tyrions booty call

[hallow plover]

I just know she has a dope beetle mount

Great sculpt

[summer mural]

and orion is kurnous embodied?

isha and orion are married?

khaine im assuming is a total meanie in the mythology and no one likes him

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[storm jungle]

They got their own pocket space they inhabit and answer elven prayers from, and their pantheon is way bigger.

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[storm jungle]

No. Orion is just an avatar figure.

[storm jungle]

Hes a total twat.

[summer mural]

so if alarielle is the isha girl

what does ariel do

also why is lileath lady of the lake

[summer mural]

sorry about spoilers

[storm jungle]

Its not even a spoiler

[summer mural]

ik

[storm jungle]

She just embodies that aspect, its the Bretonnian's fault for essentially falling into her sway lol

[storm jungle]

Shes just an avatar of Isha

Alarielle meanwhile is just a VERY powerful conduit of Isha, not her mortal coil so to speak like moth lady

[summer mural]

so druchii hate asuryan?

[storm jungle]

Yep.

they are just slaving assholes settled in the Americas

(very subtle)

[summer mural]

asuryan seems like a chill dude

[storm jungle]

Hes basically an elven paladin god yeah

[summer mural]

gotta have some brains for roasting malekith alive

[storm jungle]

no no see

[summer mural]

NO

[storm jungle]

Asuryan always knew Malekith was Him

[summer mural]

DONT TELL

[storm jungle]

🤓

[summer mural]

ahhh

[storm jungle]

god what an awful retcon

[summer mural]

poor teclis

[storm jungle]

you see guys

Horus was trying to save the Imperium

the Emperor was just kinda wrong

trust me

[summer mural]

he might as well have stabbed magnus in the back when fighting with him at kislev

[storm jungle]

LOL

💀

GOD SAKES

[summer mural]

" see , im teclis, Im going to kill you for the greater good magnus"