#40k-lore-chat

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paper haven
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In fact: Highlander is the Emperor's canonical backstory

opaque coyote
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Because

A) GW is British
B) Churchill made fire quotes
C) He was also a huge asshole

summer mural
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no, the emprah was probably like those villains from the planet of the apes movies

spring cairn
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a monkey ?

late osprey
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Madam, in 38,000 years from now, everyone in the galaxy will have our accents.

summer mural
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and the greenskins are all cockney

paper haven
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Cadia deserved it because they're British

opaque coyote
summer mural
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at least chorfs speak in the black tongue of mordor

late osprey
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this is an awesome answer btw

summer mural
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" OORAAA OGGAA OOAAA"

late osprey
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emperor was most certainly Dong Zhuo as well

summer mural
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i hope the emprah never comes back

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and is instead murdered by a lucky shot fired from some no name chaos grunt

late osprey
paper haven
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I find it funny to think of Mordor as an actual country.
Like, what's their culture?
Being evil.
Language?
The evil language.
Customs?
Evil customs.

summer mural
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welll

summer mural
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they arent that evil

late osprey
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this is all described in pretty good detail, i hate to tell you

paper haven
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How close was I?

ornate estuary
late osprey
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mordor is a strangley modernized country compared to the rest of middle earth, the culture is hard to describe because it's actually a mixture of various orc cultures all forced together

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same story as the language

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the "evil language" is manufactured so the orcs can all communicate with each other

spring cairn
late osprey
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the culture as a whole i would say is not so dissimilar to if an entire country ran like a modern military

late osprey
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which, if that sounds hellish, that probably was the point

ornate estuary
paper haven
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I was closer than I thought, then. Nice.

opaque coyote
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  • The Captain General
vagrant fox
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Sauron was very much about order, makes sense he'd run a country like a big military

late osprey
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in one snippet of LoTR, the orcs essentially talk like modern soldiers too

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calling the nazgul "the bosses"

vagrant fox
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Melkor is the satan analogue

paper haven
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Sauron is Hitler

vagrant fox
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Sauron was his special pretty boy lieutenant

opaque coyote
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Like it took actual Divine Intervention just to stop him

late osprey
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when frodo and samwise infiltrate mordor they get pressed for their ID numbers

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which when the rest of the world is feudal kingdoms would be completely alien

paper haven
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That's actually hilarious

opaque coyote
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Because nobody else does it

paper haven
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How did the industrialized nation lose to the feudal nations again?

late osprey
opaque coyote
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Therefore it would be hard to inflitrate

late osprey
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the deck was stacked that sauron would've easily won in a conventional war

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that's why they had to do the ring quest in the first place

opaque coyote
late osprey
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no

paper haven
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Seems fair

late osprey
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essentially, everyone with half a brain even on team good knew that Sauron was unbeatable in a conventional war so they did the ring quest

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
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Eru/god destroyed Numenor when humans tried to invade heaven to gain immortality

late osprey
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which in of itself failed except Eru Iluvatar made gollum slip at the last moment into the volcano

paper haven
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Gollum is Jesus in this analogy

late osprey
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not necessarily because Jesus is actually canon in Middle-Earth

spring cairn
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how

paper haven
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Huh

spring cairn
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i hate lotr lore

storm jungle
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lame ass

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broke ass

spring cairn
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good

storm jungle
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aint got no landknecht ass

vagrant fox
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lotr lore rules the silmarillion is gods gospel to this planet

paper haven
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Wait does that mean the Roman empire was canon to LOTR too?

opaque coyote
spring cairn
opaque coyote
storm jungle
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if LOTR didnt exist so wouldnt WHF

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haha loser

summer mural
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how tall is nagash's physical body in his model

spring cairn
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idc

paper haven
summer mural
opaque coyote
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He goes up the Tolkein

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"AYO you gotta change this. This is too similar to me."

paper haven
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Can't wait for Disney to buy the rights to the Christian faith

late osprey
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during a debate between Elf and Man it's revealed that the humans already have a belief that there will be one that saves them from death, as they believe it at this time to be a curse

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essentially a direct reference to the prophecy of the messiah

opaque coyote
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So

late osprey
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Jesus himself doesn't literally manifest

opaque coyote
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Please make it happ-

late osprey
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but the set-up is there

spring cairn
late osprey
spring cairn
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but that's just a messiah type-a-thing

late osprey
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the specific vernacular both around Jesus the Messiah and the beliefs of the people of Middle-Earth make the connection pretty much confirmed

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LoTR and the Silmarillion are set up as a prehistoric eras

paper haven
late osprey
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which means we exist in the same world as LoTR, just different eras

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specifically we're like 5th+ Era IIRC

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5th Age, even

vagrant fox
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which means dwarves might still be underground deep down somewhere

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we gotta look

paper haven
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Whoops dug too deep

spring cairn
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no because magic ran away and they all died or something

paper haven
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Now there's demons

late osprey
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in concerning hobbits, it's said they still exist but they've gotten so good at hiding that it's impossible to find them

opaque coyote
# paper haven Whoops dug too deep

Sauron: "You're a Messiah. You're a Messiah. I'm a Messiah! Are there any other Messiah's out there?"

Gollum: "MY PRECIOUS!"

Sauron: "I'm out of here "

late osprey
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also every text of the LoTR (except the notes ofc) are staged as in-universe documents translated by Tolkien after being recovered from elsewhere

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specifically translated by Tolkien from the Hobbit Language, which in the Silmarillion's case was then translated from Elvish

paper haven
spring cairn
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I can't believe Elves were real

paper haven
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They aren't

opaque coyote
spring cairn
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what

late osprey
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they still are, you can even go talk to them

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you just have to find the Straight Road off of the west coast of North America

paper haven
late osprey
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just sail off from California and there's a 1 in trillion chance you'll find it

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
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Yeah just have earth still be flat and sail into heaven

late osprey
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specifically so the elves could reach Valinor still

paper haven
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The dwarves dug so much that the earth rounded out now we can't sail to heaven

vagrant fox
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I like that idea that Middle Earth is still flat to the elves so that's why they see further

opaque coyote
late osprey
opaque coyote
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For no reason

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So there's an order entirely dedicated to just walking in one direction

vagrant fox
opaque coyote
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To try and find the end of the land

paper haven
opaque coyote
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Or at least have it repeat

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But it never ends and it never repeats. New land masses keep popping up

paper haven
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And also obscenely wealthy

opaque coyote
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Like it's fucking Minecraft

late osprey
opaque coyote
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Except unlike Minecraft there isn't a world border

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...

spring cairn
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nowadays you don't need to sail to a shitty island or whatever to talk to Elves, just ingest a copious amount of LSD

opaque coyote
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Okay honestly since I'm off topic as shit and nobody's listening to me anyways

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I genuinely wish that the Farlands was like

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An actual biome

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Like genuinely the idea of walking so far, the terrain becomes absolutely fucked is entertaining to me

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Idk why

paper haven
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Imagine you die and go up to heaven but they don't let you in because your K/D ratio wasn't high enough.

They say "Lol skill issue" and down to hell you go

opaque coyote
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Although maybe making them nearer would be neat

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Like 10000 blocks?

river nacelle
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I must return to work. It was nice chatting with you all. I shall return to blight you later

opaque coyote
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There are sudden parts of the world that just

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Just up

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And look like the farlands

vagrant fox
opaque coyote
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And then end for no reason

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It would look jank as shit but it would be cool

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Like you're going so far that the world itself is starting to fuck up

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Would make the two MC lore theorists go bananas

summer mural
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the heck are you on about

opaque coyote
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How I wish the Farlands became an official biome in Minecraft

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And how cool it would be

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If it happened

storm jungle
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Laati

summer mural
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instead tell me why teclis's aos model insists on showing his armpits to all of the mortal realms

storm jungle
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stop taking ketamine

spring cairn
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elon musk reference

late osprey
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and possibly caused every other terrible event

opaque coyote
paper haven
opaque coyote
storm jungle
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😭 😭 😭

opaque coyote
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Anyways.

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So about Minecraft in general

storm jungle
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No

opaque coyote
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I do think that the woodland mansions should've been a castle

late osprey
opaque coyote
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I always found it weird that the Pillagers just shoved research and shit into a giant mansion

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That's also easily flammable

late osprey
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the Norman Menace tore all of this down

paper haven
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The only thing I know about minecraft is that there's a movie about it

vagrant fox
spring cairn
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this is what happen when they give internet access to mental asylums

opaque coyote
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Like it's implied that they do some dumbass sacrifice type shit in there

summer mural
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theres a pillagers with a capital P?

storm jungle
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no.1 karl franzisca meat rider head ass

opaque coyote
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And attempts at creating a fucking Wither

late osprey
opaque coyote
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Sacrifices and rituals towards some unknown goal

spring cairn
summer mural
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its okay, I did cocaine at the age of 2 as well

storm jungle
opaque coyote
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They also have magic that we can't use for some reason

opaque coyote
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Fairies and crocodile jaws?

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And those Crocodile Jaws almost fucking kill me in full diamond but that's besides the pount

vagrant fox
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Romans were little bitches and the sack of rome in 476 was the single best day of my life

opaque coyote
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Anyways I kinda wish it was a medieval style castle

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I like castles. Castles are cool.

paper haven
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Carthage deserved it.

opaque coyote
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A lot of structures in Minecraft are outdated in general

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The Desert and Jungle Temples look like ass.

late osprey
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everything before 1066 is irrelevant, everything after 1066 is Bill the Bastard's fault

opaque coyote
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And I kinda wish that the Jungle Temples also changed material depending on the biome

late osprey
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one could even arguably attribute ALL of colonialism and imperialism to Bill the Bastard

opaque coyote
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Since they're always yellow sandstone even in red sand biomes

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Mesa and all that

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I also wish the End just had

opaque coyote
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More content

vagrant fox
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I look at this artwork daily and fantasize about sacking the dying roman empire

late osprey
opaque coyote
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End cities are nice but it's just kinda pointless after you loot

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Like

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One or two

opaque coyote
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Anyways

paper haven
late osprey
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drawing attractive people was popular in old artwork

opaque coyote
dapper gyro
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Renaissance era arts

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All about peak human forms.

late osprey
# opaque coyote

gee, the faction of scientists and civilians are losing the armed conflict to actual psychotic military veterans?

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truly, im shocked

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i had no idea this would happen

opaque coyote
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Even if they aren't

vagrant fox
paper haven
dapper gyro
paper haven
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Italy, specifically.

opaque coyote
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Because only the G1 Cartoon and comics actually tackle that

late osprey
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well its not even that so much as the initial divide had like ALL of the cybertronian military side with megatron

paper haven
dapper gyro
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Armanda, too!

opaque coyote
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Like he was born

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And was like

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"I want to fucking murder people"

dapper gyro
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Armanda has deception all military vehicles.

late osprey
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transformers is an allegory for the civil right's movement

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optimus prime? MLK Jr.

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you have one guess who megatron is

opaque coyote
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It's also implied that most of the Decepticons were brainwashed by a machine that he sent out.

G1 Decepticons are different in that they uh

Have zero depth

tall plinth
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I thought it was an allegory for cool fuckin toy trucks and cars

summer mural
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linkin park?

opaque coyote
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They're literally just evil shitheads

paper haven
late osprey
paper haven
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Oh

dapper gyro
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Kissinger

late osprey
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both the decepticons and the autobots have their origins fighting against an oppressive system

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but megatron espoused violent methods while optimus prime did not

paper haven
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But Optimus Prime still like, killed people

late osprey
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well, not back then

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the cybertron war that most transformers movies are set in are set past those origins

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also michael bay's optimus is a psychotic maniac

opaque coyote
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Like in the original cartoon, they were just bad guys

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That's it

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They're basically PG Chaos and I love them for it

dapper gyro
paper haven
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Who's Starscream supposed to be?

opaque coyote
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"YOU'RE EITHER LYING OR YOU'RE STUPID."

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"I'M STUPID. I'M STUPID!"

opaque coyote
paper haven
opaque coyote
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Like

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Even in TV Tropes

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His archetype of character is just called

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"The Starscream"

paper haven
arctic talon
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Violence is ultimately necessary sometimes

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Even if it’s unfortunate

dapper gyro
queen laurel
dapper gyro
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For what MLK fought for, peacful negociation is an option.

paper haven
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If Optimus is supposed to be an allegory for MLK Jr. It's a bad allegory

arctic talon
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He’s not

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Lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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He’s a violent revolutionary

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In most versions from what little I know

dapper gyro
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But for some force invading with violence, it is always.

late osprey
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optimus prime was not violent in the contexts of the system they were initially railing against

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this was the key difference between him and megatron

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and also, the context of MLK Jr's pacifism was the context of societal change

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which objectively worked better than the alternative

opaque coyote
paper haven
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Speak softly and carry a big stick

opaque coyote
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For Megatron.

The system is working just fine, you need to burn it down.

late osprey
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megatron was the violent revolutionary, yeah

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and then the civil war happened

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and they both started shooting at each other

arctic talon
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Something something “the base violence necessary for change”

late osprey
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but in the events leading to the civil war the difference was very stark

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and the parallels are there

paper haven
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Except after the shooting started

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Then they were two sides of the same coin

opaque coyote
late osprey
opaque coyote
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Of course the back stories differ heavily depending on the continuity

Transformers One had them both be

RERGGGHH MINERS GREEHHHH

late osprey
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transformers one dumbed it down a lot yeah

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instead of it being a problem of an institution that was many generations in the making it was

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"lol one dictator is the cause of all the world's problems"

opaque coyote
late osprey
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i still liked it

opaque coyote
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At least to me lo

late osprey
rose thorn
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hey whats the salamander felsh contrast called again?

arctic talon
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My younger cousin watching sentinel prime get brutally murdered on IMAX

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Just like I watched sentinel prime get brutally murdered on IMAX

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It’s poetry, it rhymes

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You know I think the bay transformers movies might have made me like the idea of cyborgs and robots

late osprey
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it does fuck with things that the whole point of the initial uprising was for all bots to be equal and have self-determination, but then megatron just goes right back to the old ways and forces all bots to be his soldiers

pale tendon
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Does anyone else hope we get to see Brunt more?

I love his voice actor, I want Quartermaster Brunt to command us on missions and tell us to thrump things

celest dome
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I'm watching the Mortal Combat movie while doing something for work, one of the character just said: "Say your price, double, then multiply it by 2"

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Like what the heck

opaque coyote
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You need to sell it to children

opaque coyote
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Prime continuity had Megatron literally get addicted to Dark Energon

celest dome
opaque coyote
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...

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Which is basically the Transformers equivalent to Crack

arctic talon
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Meth

pale tendon
arctic talon
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I love meth

pale tendon
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For both Zola and Morrow

arctic talon
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I watched that show when I was in like

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Middle school

celest dome
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Oh right

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New stuff

late osprey
opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Why’d they give starscream heels

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Not that I mind his design

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It’s very distinct lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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LOL

opaque coyote
# late osprey i mean dumbed down vs Prime continuity

Overall yeah I find the Prime Continuity best in terms of like

Backstory and complexity.

But Transformers One definitely had the most emotion and captured how Megatron would go in a downward spiral. And the inherit differences in their character

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Overall I can't decide which one is better

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One had the best logic and plot.

The other had better emotion and character

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Either way, I pray to Primus for Transformers Two

opaque coyote
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But it's just

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Worse than Java

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I don't know how a codebase built from the ground up by a professional company with millions of employees

arctic talon
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It’s not

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Lol

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Java is a mess code wise

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Bedrock is way easier to program for

opaque coyote
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At the same time though I somehow fucking died while flying an elytra.

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I was still in the air

arctic talon
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League of legends and Dota 2 code

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Are more hellish

arctic talon
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Lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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Well yeah

celest dome
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God lord do I hate Tonfas

arctic talon
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It’s prolly some sort of weird issue

arctic talon
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They look stupid?

celest dome
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Ye

arctic talon
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Lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
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I knew it

opaque coyote
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Debugging is hard

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Painful work

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At the same time

arctic talon
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Both editions are

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Not ideal lol

opaque coyote
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I don't want to lose my progress

arctic talon
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I prefer Java

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But that’s because I like modded

opaque coyote
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Because I fell through a fucking bridge into lava

vagrant fox
arctic talon
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Are those from Warframe

vagrant fox
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yes

arctic talon
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I’m like 99% sure those are

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Okay

opaque coyote
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Like the UI is less

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Uh

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...

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Ass

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Tbf I get why Bedrock has that UI

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It was made for Mobile and Consoles also

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But at the same time I just

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I just don't like it

celest dome
arctic talon
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It’s got a very distinct art style lol

queen laurel
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Yeah Warframe just has that look you know

arctic talon
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Anyways I want monster hunter to add another weapon

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Someday

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Some century

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(It’s never going to happen)

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I don’t even care if it’s the goofy ass tonfa’s from the MMO

queen laurel
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Magnet spike however

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Fuck no

opaque coyote
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Toehoe

arctic talon
queen laurel
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Blunt damage cutting damage

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I frames

vagrant fox
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take the gunlance and just have it be a big gun

queen laurel
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All you can ask for in the weapon in a single package

arctic talon
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The switch axe also isn’t even really an axe most of the time

vagrant fox
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I basically just wanted a big cannon when playing worlds yeah

arctic talon
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Ngl I think they’re reluctant to add more ranged weapons

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Beyond bow and the bow guns

dapper gyro
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I think the combined weapons in MH kind of cornering the weapon expansion of the game.

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Yeah I can’t think of what I’d add

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Gameplay wise

queen laurel
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Because many types of weapon just falls in the categories

arctic talon
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Every niche is already filled

queen laurel
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Oh look a mace

arctic talon
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Bow is big ranged damage

queen laurel
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That's just a hammer

arctic talon
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The bow guns are different flavors of full auto/precision lol

queen laurel
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Oh a giant sharp heavy weapon

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That's just the great sword

arctic talon
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Idk what is unoccupied design space lol

queen laurel
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Oh a spear that looks cool

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That's just insect glaive

arctic talon
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lance

dapper gyro
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Spear could have a stand alone moveset.

queen laurel
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Like a morning star

dapper gyro
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It doesn't have to be like glaive.

celest dome
arctic talon
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Yes they mean a flail

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Another blunt weapon would be cool

dapper gyro
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Because morningstar has fixed head.

arctic talon
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There’s only like 2

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Hammer and hunting horn

celest dome
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Flail and Shield uwugryn

queen laurel
arctic talon
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There’s a mace and shield

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In wilds

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I’m so happy the SnS’s aren’t just always swords

queen laurel
arctic talon
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No

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Unfortunately

queen laurel
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Shame

arctic talon
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Well it deals blunt damage with shieldbashes

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Lol

queen laurel
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But yeah i honestly

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Think that flails would work

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After all the advancements physics on the engine

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I think they can pull it off very well

celest dome
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What if Mourningstar like from Castlevania

arctic talon
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Would be cool

arctic talon
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But the big thing is a blunt fast weapon imo

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It’s weird that doesn’t exist

celest dome
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Quite sad that long chained weapon in a tide game will most likely never happen

queen laurel
queen laurel
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Like

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They could have literally made

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A Cestus

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As like a blunt dual blades

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Just throwing haymakers left and right on the monster

arctic talon
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Then again they could just add hunter arts/hunting styles from GENU

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To mainline stuff lol

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Then we’d technically get a fuck ton of weapons

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Wearing the skin of existing weapons

queen laurel
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Like fans don't clamor on for a new weapon

arctic talon
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Hunter arts would be cool

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I liked how rise sorta had them with silkbind stuff

queen laurel
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You ain't beating wilds when it comes to monster lore

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It might just be the peak of monster hunter lore

tall plinth
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Cactus

arctic talon
queen laurel
celest dome
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Damn, just realised that I worked a day I had placed myself on leave Guarded

celest dome
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I think it's cause my direct boss ordered me to take 2 weeks and then we both had forgotten, so on the 1st monday i had to help out for a project that had just started

opaque coyote
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But it also gives Warhammer it's own unique flair

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So

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🤷🏻‍♂️

outer wave
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I feel like football hooligan orcs have been the maystay as of late

queen laurel
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Like they are literal

celest dome
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Now just 5 days to punch in, but all of those are for a project which I don't seem to be able to use

queen laurel
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Football hooligans but for fighting

opaque coyote
queen laurel
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Nah

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Orks straight up just act like the usually do

outer wave
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I haven't seen self-deprecating orcs

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They're usually just

queen laurel
outer wave
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"Me warmonger, kill non greens and elves"

opaque coyote
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Also DnD eliminating Half Orcs from existing

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For

queen laurel
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But he got over it pretty quickly

opaque coyote
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Some reason

opaque coyote
outer wave
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The whole fuck elves meme has made me appreciate them to an extent

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Still not my favorite race

outer wave
queen laurel
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But it makes sense because he's pretty smart

celest dome
queen laurel
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And has a lot of expectations place upon him

queen laurel
outer wave
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Do what makes you happy

opaque coyote
# outer wave *Huh?*

Wizards of the Coast removed Half Elves and Half Orcs citing racism reasons or something

I mean it's not like race mixed people exist.

queen laurel
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Don't want my favorite cactus that wants to correct me about my analogy on chaos hocus pocus

celest dome
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My big boss sternly asked me to

queen laurel
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Going hey wire

outer wave
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Not that it ultimately matters

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I'd probably still run shit with mixed races

opaque coyote
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Nobody plays completely vanilla DnD anyways

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That's not the point

outer wave
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Exactly!

opaque coyote
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Because like

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It implies that the only reason why Half Elves and Half Orcs exist

outer wave
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Yeaaaah

opaque coyote
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Is because of PURPLE FRUIT

outer wave
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Like elves and orcs are allowed to race mix

celest dome
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I might buy the Werewolf rpg book; it released in French earlier this year, could push my brother and either other member of the family to play, or some of his friends

opaque coyote
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Which makes it worse because that means that it implies that Orcs and Elves are a bunch of PURPLE FRUITists

queen laurel
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I need more lore to consume

outer wave
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Well now orcs in DnD are Mexican/latino

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Which DOESNT help

opaque coyote
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How did they make it worse

queen laurel
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Homebrew

celest dome
queen laurel
celest dome
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It's part of World of Darkness (Vampire the Masquerade)

outer wave
# queen laurel Homebrew

Oh yeah, most if not all of these issues are negligible at the end of the day; they're still stupid creative decisions though

opaque coyote
# queen laurel Homebrew

Yeah which is why people probably aren't fucking storming the HQ.

It is still so mindbogglingly stupid that it's just...

Why

queen laurel
opaque coyote
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I just really wanna know

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What kind of pinhead decided this

queen laurel
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Want to be a god damn gargoyle

opaque coyote
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Did nobody think of the implications???

celest dome
opaque coyote
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Even an idiot like me can understand the implications. How did this shit fly over their heads?

queen laurel
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Werewolf it is

opaque coyote
queen laurel
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Listen here

queen laurel
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That's jay okay

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I cannot take his place as the lore chat furry

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For i already occupy the lore chat dumbass

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Reigning champion in fact

celest dome
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What am I

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the maddened rambler

queen laurel
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And very old things about warhammer

outer wave
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^

celest dome
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thank you uwugryn

opaque coyote
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So I am

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The local autism creature

outer wave
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Tbf I think a bunch of us have autism

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I mean, we're Warhammer fans

opaque coyote
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Warhammer is like Trains

outer wave
opaque coyote
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It is a magnet for Autistic people

queen laurel
vagrant fox
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a personality disorder is required for warhams

outer wave
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True!

opaque coyote
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Although ironically enough I don't like learning about the inner workings of trains

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Instead it was Sharks

queen laurel
opaque coyote
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So

celest dome
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||I'm watching a movie about trains rn|| 💀

opaque coyote
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Don't worry Bulgur

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Sooner or later your computer will have parts that I had something to do with

queen laurel
opaque coyote
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Listen to the audiobook

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The author of the story himself voices AM

queen laurel
opaque coyote
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And he is

Really good at it

vagrant fox
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I have 4 things I need to study and I can't sit down and focus at all Sitgryn

opaque coyote
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Like genuinely it's actually kinda terrifying how much hatred he puts in

vagrant fox
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The narrator is verrry good in that story

opaque coyote
# queen laurel No thank you i would just get the book

audio from the bbc i have no mouth and i must scream radio play

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queen laurel
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Yeah it's actually goated

vagrant fox
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He voiced AM in the video game too, love that game

opaque coyote
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I actually think AM, GladOS and Shodan are my favorite "AI Villains" for one reason

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Unlike most AI villains which are dispassionate and cold. They are emotional. Way too emotional. They developed human feelings... and they have no idea how to manage it.

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So they go mad.

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All the information of the world, but with the temperaments of children.

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Narcissists with the power of God.

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I love it.

vagrant fox
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They are my favourite AIs those three

opaque coyote
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God I wish System Shock 3 wasn't cancelled

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At least the remake is goated.

vagrant fox
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I hope the remaster of 2 is going to be good and I continue to hope for a 3 one distant day

opaque coyote
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Same. Waiting for the remaster of 2 to play it

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Honestly

vagrant fox
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Being a wee little boy and playing System Shock 2 did something to my brain I'm sure of it

opaque coyote
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Why are immersive sims so like

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Unpopular

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Like genuinely they are the most fun gaming experiences you can have. But yet the only popular ones are like...

Bioshock 1 and 2

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Not Infinite since it's more like bootleg Halo

vagrant fox
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It's a small genre, Prey was popular at least

opaque coyote
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That's why there's no sequel

sacred ginkgo
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Prey was neat

vagrant fox
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Undersold with 1.5 million copies sold?

opaque coyote
sacred ginkgo
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Cool horror game until you found a shotgun

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
opaque coyote
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They expected more apparently

opaque coyote
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Probably why I also like Survival Horror tbh

vagrant fox
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Not sure what it is about bioshock, I got so bored playing even though the story engaged me

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I just walked around Rapture taking pictures of fish

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but then I loved it in System Shock

opaque coyote
dapper gyro
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Bioshock 2 and 3 pulled a more power fantasy into the game.

opaque coyote
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Infinite I didn't even finish

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I found that shit boring

vagrant fox
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Never touched the other bioshocks

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At least, I got a lot of fish pictures

opaque coyote
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Try out 2 at least. It has vastly improved gameplay and the story is good.

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Not as good as 1

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But still good

languid meadow
vagrant fox
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Look at this 1994 goof, chaos boys in a state of unarmoured goes further back than I thought

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It is a cool articulated shoulder pad however

opaque coyote
hallow saddle
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he's got the stanky leg

opaque coyote
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I actually kind like the asymmetrical like

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armored arm and unarmored arm

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actually looks cool

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...

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the exposed leg is still a sin though

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like why

hallow saddle
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none marine with right side armor

dapper gyro
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The blessing gives him growth hormones, so that half of his body get bigger.

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
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tbf, kharn with the exposed arm and miku pigtails does make it look cool

opaque coyote
dapper gyro
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I kind of like it more than the typical blood lust artworks.

opaque coyote
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or is to like

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have more mobility/flexibility

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in terms of swinging

winter vessel
dapper gyro
vagrant fox
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Ignoring that it looks cool, you can argue it gives him a higher range of mobility

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and the defensive side tends to be the armoured side if you have asymmetric armour, so maybe he defends with his right

dapper gyro
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When using a melee weapon, speed is strength.

vagrant fox
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if he does any defending that is

opaque coyote
opaque coyote
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If it vents due to overheating, it'll only vent to the armored side

vagrant fox
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kharn the everwise

tall plinth
rose thorn
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Ffs I posted in the wrong chat again

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Here

hallow saddle
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pretty much

hallow saddle
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at least its better than 9th edition where u had to have campaign books and out-of-date issues of white dwarf for the current rules

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that was a nightmare

arctic talon
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I like campaign books

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ngl

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White dwarf was actually fucking awful

rose thorn
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I heard 40k’s aren’t great this riding

arctic talon
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but imo campaign books are cool

hallow saddle
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me too but faction rules in campaign books sucked

arctic talon
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am I stupid

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or am I misreading something

rose thorn
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Sorry what

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The fuck did I type

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I mean

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I heard 40k’s campaigns aren’t great this edition

hallow saddle
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idk theyre cool enough

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ive been playing pariah nexus etc

rose thorn
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Oh ice

arctic talon
viral halo
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No more vampire lord on zombie dragon for AOS

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I'm going to crash out!

rose thorn
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I’ve seen the battletome it’s in there

rose thorn
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But

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I counted the datasheets

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But

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At least you can run Prince guy

tall plinth
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So lemme get this straight

outer wave
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Now, lemme be queer

winter vessel
rose thorn
rose thorn
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hey stuck on deciding on my stormhost idea i need someone's opinion

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people who already were reincarnated
people who died laughing
people who's corpses will never be found
people who died dreaming
people who died who were criminals and thugs wishing they could live abetter life

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which one of these ideas are the best

arctic talon
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First one doesn’t even seem possible

tough haven
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People who were left for dead and/or betrayed

arctic talon
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Not sure how the fourth one would work

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Imo the 2nd or 3rd one

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Last one also isn’t bad

rose thorn
arctic talon
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Oh

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Yeah that’s not that interesting imo

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At least to me

rose thorn
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very fair

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the second and third are my top ones too atm

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the last one could work really well as a single character

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my oldest and my newest idea

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uhg its so hard

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laughing wins i think

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as death inches closer the warriors devolve from regimented masters of war to laughing mad men chopping down the enemy. Even in death these warriors will always get the last laugh

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ight that works

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just need a name

nocturne crest
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So apart from the Votann, has humanity produced a cult for each xenos faction on the tabletop?

rose thorn
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scavstare wha?

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like himans owrshipping xenos

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besides gscs which cover themselves and nids

nocturne crest
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Like worshipping xenos, such as the diggas or that necron one.

arctic talon
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No

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What

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It’s only gsc

rose thorn
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stygis semi worship aledar

arctic talon
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Like

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Humans worshiping actual xenos

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It’s just gsc really

nocturne crest
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Yes.

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Oh.

arctic talon
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As an actual faction

rose thorn
arctic talon
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The ancestor cores are human tech lol

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Well

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DAOT tech

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They’re LoV stuff

rose thorn
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im so happy votaan are xenos

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i know people were complaining on reddit they werent imperium

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okay yeah two of the xenos factions are humans but still

nocturne crest
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So how are Votann xenos?

rose thorn
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they evolved to not be humans lmao

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and arent apart fo the imperium

nocturne crest
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What

arctic talon
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They’re culturally distinct

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They’re abhumans technically

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But they don’t give a shit about the imperium

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They don’t see themselves as human

nocturne crest
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Like Orgyns and beast men?

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Ah.

arctic talon
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And they don’t consider themselves human or descendent from humanity

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Yeah

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They consider themselves their own separate species basically

nocturne crest
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So do they have any supremacist views or are they pretty chill?

rose thorn
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votaan lives abover everyone else but besides that they are kinda chill ig

arctic talon
rose thorn
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kmao

arctic talon
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But they’re not like Omega Uber racist

rose thorn
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lmao*

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they dont care if their actiosn fuck over non votaan

arctic talon
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They got the same flavor of racism as the Tau

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But worse

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Sorta

rose thorn
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they do destroy planets for materials which is pretty bad

nocturne crest
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Ah.

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There's the grim dark aspect of the faction.

rose thorn
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but the imperium can undo that liek tyrnaid s right guys :D?

rose thorn
arctic talon
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Lol

rose thorn
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i was shit posting lmao

arctic talon
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The only reason it worked on Sotha is bcs the nids were afraid smh

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Of the EVIL SPACE GOD

rose thorn
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LMAO

arctic talon
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I mean I’m not wrong LOL

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They prolly didn’t eat deeper because they noticed the cron stuff

rose thorn
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oh yeah necrons fuck up nids pretty bad i think

nocturne crest
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Can I ask a question, which is out of genuine interest and is not to an attempt at trolling?

rose thorn
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i guess?

nocturne crest
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So between the old necron lore and the current lore, which does anyone prefer?

rose thorn
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new one by 100 miles

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no one can argue about it

arctic talon
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Old styled Necrons can still exist under current Necrons as well

rose thorn
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oh i thoght we were tlaking baout like

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chaos necrons

arctic talon
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Oh bruh

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Chaos androids

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I don’t even think they had fans LOL

rose thorn
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we mena like, dwan of war

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when they were doom poster life haters

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also a youtuber made a relaly good mini series talking about cool old hammer lore

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adn then instnatly turned into a woke hammer hater lmao

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saddest unsubcscribe of my life

crystal forum
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am i really the only one who's freaked out by the concept of an anemone growing out of somebody's eye socket

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why do i feel like the weird one here

tough haven
crystal forum
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that's what i think when i see that character

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and it freaks me tf out every time

dusky scroll
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Why do others can return from the dead (Angron) or part of the soul can have presence in the warp after death (Sanguinius afaik)

But Horus can't?

I know it is a fundamental condition of the lore. But what was the lore justification?

dapper gyro
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Horus was killed by the Big E when he was at his strongest. His psychic power is strong enough to delete souls from existence.
The Big E flaming sword burns with his stored power and is still strong enough to permanently kill lesser daemons.

arctic talon
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Horus's soul got obliterated

sacred ginkgo
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Dead until GW really needs money

shadow plover
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Being ascended to deamonhood makes you a part deamon, which means you can reincarnate to real space because you are of the warp

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and horus wasn't ascended nor does he have any soul left to linger in the warp

raven stone
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Yea Horus is one of the few "absolutely dead" things in 40k

dusky scroll
storm jungle
storm jungle
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Big E literally says "I'll wait for you. And I forgive you"

opaque coyote
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Fucking vaporized

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He's basically Uncle Ben

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Yeah they might bring him back

But it'd be a last resort

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And he'd probably die soon after

raven stone
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So far Horus is so gone, not even Fabius Bile can clone the guy

opaque coyote
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Tbf Fabius only had one successful clone?

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Actually wait

raven stone
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That, and Abaddon gleefully kills off any successful ones.

opaque coyote
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The Ferrus clones are successful if I remember correctly

raven stone
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Since Abaddon canonically despises Horus for failing the siege.

opaque coyote
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Like he specifically made Ferrus clones for Fulgrim

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So Fulgrim can be like

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"Join me"

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Every single one of them said

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"I would rather die. Literally."

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Which is funny as shit.

raven stone
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(And then promptly dies, ofc)

opaque coyote
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Not one accepted the deal

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Tbf the fact that he is a fucking like

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Snake creature probably does not help

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But yeah

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Although Fulgrim can canonically shape shift in and out of snek form

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So

opaque coyote
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Like he was basically a mouthpiece for the Chaos Gods

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All he did was ramble

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He was more Chaos Juice than actual flesh and blood let's be fair here

raven stone
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And figurehead.
Partly why Lorgar attempted to depose Horus right when reaching Terra.

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(Or was it one of the WB daddies? Something along those lines.)

raven stone
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and tried to use Horus to goad Emps into becoming the 5th Chaos entity.

opaque coyote
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Is still believing that Chaos actually cares about anything other than keeping the game on

raven stone
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I still find it funny how the closest we will ever get to a Chaos Undivided Primarch on tabletop is fucking Belakor

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Not Lorgar

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(In 40k at least)

raven stone
opaque coyote
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i would argue that the people believing that chaos actually cares about them

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are way more delusional than those trying to use it as a tool

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because at least with trying to use it as a tool, you're aware that you can probably get hit back

raven stone
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On the one hand, true.
On the other hand, in the lowest rungs of Imperial society…any pretence or lie of a care is good enough to lure them in

raven stone
raven stone
# opaque coyote "fuck it we ball"

Pretty much. Says a lot when 3 meals a day for prisoners can be seen as a sign of corruption/subversion of prison order according to Rogue Trader…

crisp heath
raven stone
# crisp heath

I mean closest that could happen is pretty much a Rogue Trader fiefdom in the middle of nowhere strategic that is lucky enough to not attract Xenos and Chaos attention

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If they just pay their Tithes (taxes) to the Imperium then yea, nothing will ever happen.

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A “horror” part of 40k is, inherently, what happens when Orks/Drukhari/Tyranids/Chaos comes knocking at your door even if you were not looking for trouble.

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(Generally speaking negotiating with three of them is a worse idea than fighting them, and obviously you don’t talk to Nids.)

opaque coyote
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Even after death.

raven stone
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Remember: as I mentioned, even if you are not looking for trouble, trouble comes looking for you.

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40k is…well, think of a slum zone writ large for the entire Galaxy.

opaque coyote
raven stone
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The other reason why the universe is shit beyond IoM stupidity.

crisp heath
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Yes that I understand

opaque coyote
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Like actually, literally genocided every other alternative.

opaque coyote
raven stone
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Well, yes, that too. Though Aeldari also had a hand I think, since they are also racist supremacists who look down on other species.

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And hate it when any other thing lives on their planet.

opaque coyote
# crisp heath

Although, the funniest rebellion has to be uh... the Badab war

crisp heath
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Sadly wh40k greatly reflects rl

opaque coyote
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basically,

Huron Blackheart didn't want to pay taxes.

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And he turned to Chaos due to that

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lmao

raven stone
opaque coyote
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Every other Chaos character has some tragic backstory or deep seated flaw to explain why they fell. But Huron just straight up said "Fuck the feds I ain't paying taxes."

raven stone
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Since discussion of real life is discussion of 40k inspirations.

opaque coyote
#

blahblahblah

raven stone
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Huron/Badab war is…well, it was slightly more complex than taxes. But yes, it’s an accurate enough meme.

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Basically it’s a Chapter finding itself stretched to the limits trying to guard a place/area, and the surrounding Imperial Governors being stupid greedy for trade purposes.

opaque coyote
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But also taxes.

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Although tbf, after a bit, I think only the Lamenters was actually fighting for that

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while the rest were too busy uh

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"MAIM KILL BURN"

raven stone
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I mean, when you throw a group of unstable Astartes Chapters into a war zone…

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Executioners, Minotaurs, Characadons…

opaque coyote
# crisp heath

Slaanesh technically claims to be that.

But in reality it's just about excess.

In fact, every Chaos God claims to be freedom.

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But no

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You're just chained to another master.

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There are some independent Daemon Princes looking to strike their own

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Basically to summarize.

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If the Imperium is extreme feudalism.

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Chaos is extreme late stage capitalism

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except it's probably more fun since at least you can try murdering your boss

raven stone
#

Chaos is more…emotional imbalance/insanity TBH

opaque coyote
crisp heath
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Have ever played this little gem Tyranny?

opaque coyote
#

Even has the fake like

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"YOU CAN BECOME YOUR OWN BOSS!"

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you are not your own boss

opaque coyote
raven stone
opaque coyote
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not yet tho I know Obsidian makes good shit tho

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...except on the technical department

storm jungle
opaque coyote
#

honestly I can believe it

storm jungle
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🗣️

crisp heath
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I recommended highly

opaque coyote
#

I discovered what Jackie's Box is

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It's like an auditory cognitohazard

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The ear version of a car crash

storm jungle
#

fuckingmimicfuckingmimic 💀

opaque coyote
#

I MADE THE MIMIC

storm jungle
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It was very difficult

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to put the piece TOGETHER

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The worst part is im 90% sure the guy made this knowing its brainrot.

opaque coyote
#

Nah 100%, he knows fully what he is doing

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He is committed to the bit

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Even before Jackie's Box, he made similar... quality songs

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The worst part is that his instrumental skills are genuinely good so he KNOWS music theory