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Because
A) GW is British
B) Churchill made fire quotes
C) He was also a huge asshole
no, the emprah was probably like those villains from the planet of the apes movies
a monkey ?
Madam, in 38,000 years from now, everyone in the galaxy will have our accents.
and the greenskins are all cockney
Cadia deserved it because they're British
It turns out it was only the Orks

at least chorfs speak in the black tongue of mordor
this is an awesome answer btw
" OORAAA OGGAA OOAAA"
emperor was most certainly Dong Zhuo as well
i hope the emprah never comes back
and is instead murdered by a lucky shot fired from some no name chaos grunt
oh he'll come back, alright
I find it funny to think of Mordor as an actual country.
Like, what's their culture?
Being evil.
Language?
The evil language.
Customs?
Evil customs.
welll
actually
they arent that evil
this is all described in pretty good detail, i hate to tell you
How close was I?
mordor is a strangley modernized country compared to the rest of middle earth, the culture is hard to describe because it's actually a mixture of various orc cultures all forced together
same story as the language
the "evil language" is manufactured so the orcs can all communicate with each other
the culture as a whole i would say is not so dissimilar to if an entire country ran like a modern military
which, if that sounds hellish, that probably was the point

I was closer than I thought, then. Nice.
"Greater Good? I'm the greatest good you're ever gonna get!"
- The Captain General
Sauron was very much about order, makes sense he'd run a country like a big military
in one snippet of LoTR, the orcs essentially talk like modern soldiers too
calling the nazgul "the bosses"
Isn't Sauron basically satan
Melkor is the satan analogue
Sauron is Hitler
Sauron was his special pretty boy lieutenant
Like it took actual Divine Intervention just to stop him
when frodo and samwise infiltrate mordor they get pressed for their ID numbers
which when the rest of the world is feudal kingdoms would be completely alien
That's actually hilarious
Tbf that would be a good system then
Because nobody else does it
How did the industrialized nation lose to the feudal nations again?
literal divine intervention
Therefore it would be hard to inflitrate
the deck was stacked that sauron would've easily won in a conventional war
that's why they had to do the ring quest in the first place
I think God literally had to destroy an island
no
Seems fair
essentially, everyone with half a brain even on team good knew that Sauron was unbeatable in a conventional war so they did the ring quest
Also technically the Ring was never given up voluntarily at the end.
And it's also implied that this was Divine Intervention
Eru/god destroyed Numenor when humans tried to invade heaven to gain immortality
which in of itself failed except Eru Iluvatar made gollum slip at the last moment into the volcano
yes
Gollum is Jesus in this analogy
not necessarily because Jesus is actually canon in Middle-Earth
how
Huh
i hate lotr lore
good
aint got no landknecht ass
lotr lore rules the silmarillion is gods gospel to this planet
Wait does that mean the Roman empire was canon to LOTR too?
Also Jesus gave himself up voluntarily.
Gollum literally slipped
exactly why it sucks

get better material
if LOTR didnt exist so wouldnt WHF
haha loser
how tall is nagash's physical body in his model
idc
They had to change it a little to avoid copyright.
like is that hat half the length of a person
I am now imagining Jesus
Suddenly floating down from Heaven
He goes up the Tolkein
"AYO you gotta change this. This is too similar to me."

Can't wait for Disney to buy the rights to the Christian faith
during a debate between Elf and Man it's revealed that the humans already have a belief that there will be one that saves them from death, as they believe it at this time to be a curse
essentially a direct reference to the prophecy of the messiah
....
Honestly
It would be so funny
So
Jesus himself doesn't literally manifest
Please make it happ-
but the set-up is there
oh ok, you framed it like Jesus as we know him was canon
but this is also true
but that's just a messiah type-a-thing
the specific vernacular both around Jesus the Messiah and the beliefs of the people of Middle-Earth make the connection pretty much confirmed
LoTR and the Silmarillion are set up as a prehistoric eras
Yeah, Gollum.
Gollum saves everyone. Sure it was on accident but who cares?
which means we exist in the same world as LoTR, just different eras
specifically we're like 5th+ Era IIRC
5th Age, even
Whoops dug too deep
no because magic ran away and they all died or something
Now there's demons
in concerning hobbits, it's said they still exist but they've gotten so good at hiding that it's impossible to find them
Sauron: "You're a Messiah. You're a Messiah. I'm a Messiah! Are there any other Messiah's out there?"
Gollum: "MY PRECIOUS!"
Sauron: "I'm out of here "
also every text of the LoTR (except the notes ofc) are staged as in-universe documents translated by Tolkien after being recovered from elsewhere
specifically translated by Tolkien from the Hobbit Language, which in the Silmarillion's case was then translated from Elvish
And so once again the day was saved.
Thanks to:
The Powerpuff Girls
I can't believe Elves were real
They aren't
Dw we fucked them out of existence trust

what
they still are, you can even go talk to them
you just have to find the Straight Road off of the west coast of North America
Elf women prefer human men.
just sail off from California and there's a 1 in trillion chance you'll find it
Yeah just have earth still be flat and sail into heaven
actually the straight road is still accessible even after the Spherening
specifically so the elves could reach Valinor still
The dwarves dug so much that the earth rounded out now we can't sail to heaven
I like that idea that Middle Earth is still flat to the elves so that's why they see further
Actually had the entertaining idea of like
Just there being an "infinite" land.
in better days we would be able to let you loose on a deserted island and hunt you down with our hunting dogs
For no reason
So there's an order entirely dedicated to just walking in one direction
I forgot about that, yeah just a skill issue if you don't reach it
To try and find the end of the land
Still can if you aren't a coward
Or at least have it repeat
But it never ends and it never repeats. New land masses keep popping up
And also obscenely wealthy
Like it's fucking Minecraft
i BELIEVE i read somewhere about there being continental drift that happens to middle earth so it would be off the coast of california
nowadays you don't need to sail to a shitty island or whatever to talk to Elves, just ingest a copious amount of LSD
Okay honestly since I'm off topic as shit and nobody's listening to me anyways
I genuinely wish that the Farlands was like
An actual biome
Like genuinely the idea of walking so far, the terrain becomes absolutely fucked is entertaining to me
Idk why
Imagine you die and go up to heaven but they don't let you in because your K/D ratio wasn't high enough.
They say "Lol skill issue" and down to hell you go
I must return to work. It was nice chatting with you all. I shall return to blight you later
There are sudden parts of the world that just
Just up
And look like the farlands
It was still a pretty novel idea around Tolkiens lifetime but maybe he was forward thinking in more areas then one
Except for that whole thing about Beowulf being the pinnacle of literature and that
And then end for no reason
It would look jank as shit but it would be cool
Like you're going so far that the world itself is starting to fuck up
Would make the two MC lore theorists go bananas
the heck are you on about
How I wish the Farlands became an official biome in Minecraft
And how cool it would be
If it happened
Laati
instead tell me why teclis's aos model insists on showing his armpits to all of the mortal realms
stop taking ketamine
elon musk reference
tolkien was of the Society of True Historians, like myself, who believe that the Anglo-Saxons created the actual perfect society and that Harold Godwinsons' defeat by Bill the Bastard was the worst event in pre-modern history
and possibly caused every other terrible event
Ketamine would unfortunately improve my situation
This is just ADHD
Balance the ketamine out with amphetamines

the supremacy of the White Man is CRAZY
😭 😭 😭
No
I do think that the woodland mansions should've been a castle
800s Anglo-Saxon England be like
I always found it weird that the Pillagers just shoved research and shit into a giant mansion
That's also easily flammable
the Norman Menace tore all of this down
The only thing I know about minecraft is that there's a movie about it
At least the Normans were er, a little germanic. 85% french or something but still, it could be worse
this is what happen when they give internet access to mental asylums
you'd know
Like it's implied that they do some dumbass sacrifice type shit in there
theres a pillagers with a capital P?
no.1 karl franzisca meat rider head ass
And attempts at creating a fucking Wither
Normans were truly the destroyers of enlightenment
Sacrifices and rituals towards some unknown goal
wouldn't you like to do that
its okay, I did cocaine at the age of 2 as well
YOUR FEELINGS FOR HIM ARE NOT REAL
They also have magic that we can't use for some reason
Caeser did nothing wrong.
Fairies and crocodile jaws?
And those Crocodile Jaws almost fucking kill me in full diamond but that's besides the pount
Romans were little bitches and the sack of rome in 476 was the single best day of my life
Anyways I kinda wish it was a medieval style castle
I like castles. Castles are cool.
Carthage deserved it.
A lot of structures in Minecraft are outdated in general
The Desert and Jungle Temples look like ass.
1000 years before the true flashpoint event in history, i'm afraid
everything before 1066 is irrelevant, everything after 1066 is Bill the Bastard's fault
And I kinda wish that the Jungle Temples also changed material depending on the biome
one could even arguably attribute ALL of colonialism and imperialism to Bill the Bastard
Since they're always yellow sandstone even in red sand biomes
Mesa and all that
I also wish the End just had
The fucking Celts.
More content
I look at this artwork daily and fantasize about sacking the dying roman empire
as we who know better call them, the Norman Menace.
End cities are nice but it's just kinda pointless after you loot
Like
One or two
Why does he look hot?
Anyways
Too bad the people who made that weren't the ones who did it.
drawing attractive people was popular in old artwork
gee, the faction of scientists and civilians are losing the armed conflict to actual psychotic military veterans?
truly, im shocked
i had no idea this would happen
Renaissance Era artwork is cool.
Although they are also a bit funny because like
Everyone is fucking white
Even if they aren't
he's getting mad ghost sloppy
Well it was centered around Europe.
Well, it is made by white men in a still very racist time.
Italy, specifically.
Tbh I always thought that the concept of like
The Decepticons being made for military specifically isn't tackled more
Because only the G1 Cartoon and comics actually tackle that
well its not even that so much as the initial divide had like ALL of the cybertronian military side with megatron
A class of citizens made specifically for warfare?
What could go wrong?
Armanda, too!
In G1 specifically.
Nah Megatron was just a dick
Like he was born
And was like
"I want to fucking murder people"
Armanda has deception all military vehicles.
transformers is an allegory for the civil right's movement
optimus prime? MLK Jr.
you have one guess who megatron is
It's also implied that most of the Decepticons were brainwashed by a machine that he sent out.
G1 Decepticons are different in that they uh
Have zero depth
I thought it was an allegory for cool fuckin toy trucks and cars
linkin park?
They're literally just evil shitheads
Raegan.
malcolm X
Oh
Kissinger
both the decepticons and the autobots have their origins fighting against an oppressive system
but megatron espoused violent methods while optimus prime did not
But Optimus Prime still like, killed people
well, not back then
the cybertron war that most transformers movies are set in are set past those origins
also michael bay's optimus is a psychotic maniac
For the IDW, prime, animated, and Transformers One continuity yeah.
G1 had the Decepticons just be evil for starters
It was only until later til they actually added depth
Like in the original cartoon, they were just bad guys
That's it
They're basically PG Chaos and I love them for it
If you must do to protect other. Otherwise, how can you stop something with irrational murder impulse?
Who's Starscream supposed to be?
He is Starscream.
That's about it really

Well, I agree but MLK Jr would absolutely not agree.
Like
Even in TV Tropes
His archetype of character is just called
"The Starscream"
Perfection
Well he’s wrong imo
Violence is ultimately necessary sometimes
Even if it’s unfortunate
Ah, so you take the comparison of Optimus to MLK Jr. It makes sense, sorry.
Yep sometimes the only thing that would convince people is a firm brick on your hand
For what MLK fought for, peacful negociation is an option.
If Optimus is supposed to be an allegory for MLK Jr. It's a bad allegory
Tbf I don't think MLK Jr. claimed that violence is always bad.
Just to avoid it if you can desperately.
But for some force invading with violence, it is always.
optimus prime was not violent in the contexts of the system they were initially railing against
this was the key difference between him and megatron
and also, the context of MLK Jr's pacifism was the context of societal change
which objectively worked better than the alternative
Be Strong Enough to be gentle.
I think that's what Peter Cullen's brother said to him and that's what inspired Optimus's voice
Speak softly and carry a big stick
In terms of Optimus.
He is of the idea that you can reform the system.
For Megatron.
The system is working just fine, you need to burn it down.
megatron was the violent revolutionary, yeah
and then the civil war happened
and they both started shooting at each other
Something something “the base violence necessary for change”
but in the events leading to the civil war the difference was very stark
and the parallels are there
For the Prime continuity.
Megatron and Optimus had different backgrounds.
One was a slave gladiator forced to fight just to get his name. Megatron.
The other was a librarian who got new perspectives and wanted to reform the system.
yeah megatron calls him out for essentially being privileged in that way iirc
Of course the back stories differ heavily depending on the continuity
Transformers One had them both be
RERGGGHH MINERS GREEHHHH

transformers one dumbed it down a lot yeah
instead of it being a problem of an institution that was many generations in the making it was
"lol one dictator is the cause of all the world's problems"
To be honest I think having them both come from the same place is interesting.
i still liked it
At least to me lo
it makes the allegory itself stronger
hey whats the salamander felsh contrast called again?
My younger cousin watching sentinel prime get brutally murdered on IMAX
Basically a mixture of Prime and One's backstory is my personal HC
Just like I watched sentinel prime get brutally murdered on IMAX
It’s poetry, it rhymes
You know I think the bay transformers movies might have made me like the idea of cyborgs and robots
it does fuck with things that the whole point of the initial uprising was for all bots to be equal and have self-determination, but then megatron just goes right back to the old ways and forces all bots to be his soldiers
Does anyone else hope we get to see Brunt more?
I love his voice actor, I want Quartermaster Brunt to command us on missions and tell us to thrump things
I'm watching the Mortal Combat movie while doing something for work, one of the character just said: "Say your price, double, then multiply it by 2"
Like what the heck
Tbf a lot of transformers media dumbs it down a bit because
You need to sell it to children
Would be nice
Prime continuity had Megatron literally get addicted to Dark Energon
Do we even hear Brunt anywhere in the game ?
Meth
We hear Brunt in the Mortis Trials memories
I love meth
For both Zola and Morrow
i mean dumbed down vs Prime continuity
Starscream: "Yo you shouldn't take Dark Energon, it will literally kill y-"
Megatron: "I LOVE METH."
Why’d they give starscream heels
Not that I mind his design
It’s very distinct lol
Because it shows the true Star scream
LOL
Overall yeah I find the Prime Continuity best in terms of like
Backstory and complexity.
But Transformers One definitely had the most emotion and captured how Megatron would go in a downward spiral. And the inherit differences in their character
Overall I can't decide which one is better
One had the best logic and plot.
The other had better emotion and character

Either way, I pray to Primus for Transformers Two

Also
I hate the fact that
Bedrock is supposed to be the main version
But it's just
Worse than Java
I don't know how a codebase built from the ground up by a professional company with millions of employees
True
Bedrock is way easier to program for
At the same time though I somehow fucking died while flying an elytra.
I was still in the air
This is due to bedrock running a local sever and desyncing badly
Lol
They released hardcore but still haven't fixed it
Well yeah
God lord do I hate Tonfas
It’s prolly some sort of weird issue
Ye
Lol
Yeah and although I do know that
I knew it
I don't want to lose my progress
Because I fell through a fucking bridge into lava
what about cool tonfas
Are those from Warframe
yes
I prefer Java because Nostalgia
Modded
And because it looks better
Like the UI is less
Uh
...
Ass
Tbf I get why Bedrock has that UI
It was made for Mobile and Consoles also
But at the same time I just
I just don't like it
I don't play Warframe and also guessed as such
It’s got a very distinct art style lol
Yeah Warframe just has that look you know
Anyways I want monster hunter to add another weapon
Someday
Some century
(It’s never going to happen)
I don’t even care if it’s the goofy ass tonfa’s from the MMO
Honestly the tonfas can work
Magnet spike however
Fuck no
That shit is weird
Yeah it's basically the perfect super weapon
Blunt damage cutting damage
I frames
take the gunlance and just have it be a big gun
All you can ask for in the weapon in a single package
You want an actual artillery piece?
The switch axe also isn’t even really an axe most of the time
I basically just wanted a big cannon when playing worlds yeah
Ngl I think they’re reluctant to add more ranged weapons
Beyond bow and the bow guns
I think the combined weapons in MH kind of cornering the weapon expansion of the game.
Honestly the weapon choices already perfect
Because many types of weapon just falls in the categories
Every niche is already filled
Oh look a mace
Bow is big ranged damage
That's just a hammer
The bow guns are different flavors of full auto/precision lol
Idk what is unoccupied design space lol
lance
Spear could have a stand alone moveset.
Maybe chain weapons?
And i don't mean chainsaw i mean actually like a chain weapon
Like a morning star
It doesn't have to be like glaive.
I feel like Mace is the bigger category, with Flails, Hammers, Morningstars... being Maces
You mean a flail?
Yes they mean a flail
Something like that
Another blunt weapon would be cool
Because morningstar has fixed head.
Flail and Shield 
Yeah and it would be neat to have a fast blunt weapon
There’s a mace and shield
In wilds
I’m so happy the SnS’s aren’t just always swords
Does it actually deal blunt damage
Shame
But yeah i honestly
Think that flails would work
After all the advancements physics on the engine
I think they can pull it off very well
What if Mourningstar like from Castlevania
Would be cool
Quite sad that long chained weapon in a tide game will most likely never happen
I was thinking along the lines of a Weirdbrute Wrekka
Yeah honestly
Like
They could have literally made
A Cestus
As like a blunt dual blades
Just throwing haymakers left and right on the monster
Then again they could just add hunter arts/hunting styles from GENU
To mainline stuff lol
Then we’d technically get a fuck ton of weapons
Wearing the skin of existing weapons
Honestly though it speaks volumes on how perfect the weapon design on monster hunter is
Like fans don't clamor on for a new weapon
Yeah but still though
You ain't beating wilds when it comes to monster lore
It might just be the peak of monster hunter lore
Cactus
Mfw they made the equal dragon weapon real in a better way
Me watching the ancient civilization construct Zoh shia wondering if they remember jeff goldblum's quote
yes ?
Damn, just realised that I worked a day I had placed myself on leave 
Holy zog, are you all right?
I think it's cause my direct boss ordered me to take 2 weeks and then we both had forgotten, so on the 1st monday i had to help out for a project that had just started
Y'know sometimes I kinda wish the Orcs/Orks being football Hooligans caught on
But it also gives Warhammer it's own unique flair
So
🤷🏻♂️
I feel like football hooligan orcs have been the maystay as of late
Hey they still have the mannerism so
Like they are literal
Now just 5 days to punch in, but all of those are for a project which I don't seem to be able to use
Football hooligans but for fighting
Most of them are more like the Skyrim Orcs tbh
"I'm bored. I want to kill myself."

How are you feeling?
Ghaz did that at one point
"Me warmonger, kill non greens and elves"
But he got over it pretty quickly
Huh?
Tbf everybody wants to kill elves.
The whole fuck elves meme has made me appreciate them to an extent
Still not my favorite race
Oh did he now?
Yeah at one point in time
But it makes sense because he's pretty smart
That I really should do them weekly 
And has a lot of expectations place upon him
That is completely fair and and you should do that
Do what makes you happy
Wizards of the Coast removed Half Elves and Half Orcs citing racism reasons or something
I mean it's not like race mixed people exist.
Don't want my favorite cactus that wants to correct me about my analogy on chaos hocus pocus
My big boss sternly asked me to
Going hey wire
It was the whole rhymes with grape issue, but yeah that's still dumb as fuck
Not that it ultimately matters
I'd probably still run shit with mixed races
Exactly!
...which is even worse
Because like
It implies that the only reason why Half Elves and Half Orcs exist
Yeaaaah
Is because of PURPLE FRUIT
Like elves and orcs are allowed to race mix
I might buy the Werewolf rpg book; it released in French earlier this year, could push my brother and either other member of the family to play, or some of his friends
Which makes it worse because that means that it implies that Orcs and Elves are a bunch of PURPLE FRUITists
Can you tell me the name of the rpgs
I need more lore to consume
**That is even worse **
How did they make it worse

Well yes but you can do this funny thing of
Homebrew
Werewolf the Apocalypse
Zog yeah
It's part of World of Darkness (Vampire the Masquerade)
Oh yeah, most if not all of these issues are negligible at the end of the day; they're still stupid creative decisions though
Yeah which is why people probably aren't fucking storming the HQ.
It is still so mindbogglingly stupid that it's just...
Why
Do those runts only have werewolves and vampires
Want to be a god damn gargoyle
Did nobody think of the implications???
You could do it with Changeling possibly
Even an idiot like me can understand the implications. How did this shit fly over their heads?

||furry||
That's jay okay
I cannot take his place as the lore chat furry
For i already occupy the lore chat dumbass
Reigning champion in fact
The guy you ask when you want to know about something related to warhammer fantasy
And very old things about warhammer
^
thank you 
Warhammer is like Trains

It is a magnet for Autistic people
I guess that's what you are yeah
a personality disorder is required for warhams
True!
Although ironically enough I don't like learning about the inner workings of trains
Instead it was Sharks
Even if you did you wouldn't be able to you sub brick intelligence creature
I am learning computer engineering currently
So

||I'm watching a movie about trains rn|| 💀
Don't worry Bulgur
Sooner or later your computer will have parts that I had something to do with

Oh speaking of computing i should really read i have no mouth and i must scream
Actually a good short story.
Listen to the audiobook
The author of the story himself voices AM
No thank you i would just get the book
And he is
Really good at it
I have 4 things I need to study and I can't sit down and focus at all 
Like genuinely it's actually kinda terrifying how much hatred he puts in
Same

The narrator is verrry good in that story
audio from the bbc i have no mouth and i must scream radio play
since i see this question a lot: you do not need my permission to do anything with my version of am. i only ask that if you use assets from this video, such as editing screencaps or transforming the video, please credit me and, if possible, link back to either this video or my tumb...
Yeah it's actually goated
He voiced AM in the video game too, love that game
I actually think AM, GladOS and Shodan are my favorite "AI Villains" for one reason
Unlike most AI villains which are dispassionate and cold. They are emotional. Way too emotional. They developed human feelings... and they have no idea how to manage it.
So they go mad.
All the information of the world, but with the temperaments of children.
Narcissists with the power of God.
I love it.
They are my favourite AIs those three
I hope the remaster of 2 is going to be good and I continue to hope for a 3 one distant day
Being a wee little boy and playing System Shock 2 did something to my brain I'm sure of it
Why are immersive sims so like
Unpopular
Like genuinely they are the most fun gaming experiences you can have. But yet the only popular ones are like...
Bioshock 1 and 2
Not Infinite since it's more like bootleg Halo
It's a small genre, Prey was popular at least
Apparently undersold
That's why there's no sequel
Prey was neat
Undersold with 1.5 million copies sold?
Oh it 100% is
Cool horror game until you found a shotgun
Yup

A lot of Immersive sims are horror themed at least
Probably why I also like Survival Horror tbh
Not sure what it is about bioshock, I got so bored playing even though the story engaged me
I just walked around Rapture taking pictures of fish
but then I loved it in System Shock
Bioshock 1's gameplay is kinda doodoo ngl.
2 is more fun for me honestly
Bioshock 2 and 3 pulled a more power fantasy into the game.
Try out 2 at least. It has vastly improved gameplay and the story is good.
Not as good as 1
But still good
Look at this 1994 goof, chaos boys in a state of unarmoured goes further back than I thought
It is a cool articulated shoulder pad however
why does bro have the fucking HALF PANTS
he's got the stanky leg
ngl
I actually kind like the asymmetrical like
armored arm and unarmored arm
actually looks cool
...
the exposed leg is still a sin though
like why
none marine with right side armor
The blessing gives him growth hormones, so that half of his body get bigger.
Don't make him for an EC, they got their right/left arm bigger through... other means
tbf, kharn with the exposed arm and miku pigtails does make it look cool
Actually like that
Although shouldn't the melee weapon arm be armored?
I kind of like it more than the typical blood lust artworks.
I've seen a lot of memes that uses Kharn for "The Day after November". all because of his bare arm
There are historical reference that support this.
Ignoring that it looks cool, you can argue it gives him a higher range of mobility
and the defensive side tends to be the armoured side if you have asymmetric armour, so maybe he defends with his right
When using a melee weapon, speed is strength.
if he does any defending that is
Yeah makes snese
Also like
the plasma pistol
If it vents due to overheating, it'll only vent to the armored side
kharn the everwise
pretty much
at least its better than 9th edition where u had to have campaign books and out-of-date issues of white dwarf for the current rules
that was a nightmare
I heard 40k’s aren’t great this riding
but imo campaign books are cool
me too but faction rules in campaign books sucked
what
am I stupid
or am I misreading something
Sorry what
The fuck did I type
I mean
I heard 40k’s campaigns aren’t great this edition
Oh ice
They’re good
That’s, not correct
I’ve seen the battletome it’s in there
Saw that battletome it's not in there
So lemme get this straight
Now, lemme be queer
Based gif
I feel bad knowing what these guys look like…as I’m eating at a seafood restaurant
I'm GUTTED
Tbf, you can just run a dragon or run them as prince
hey stuck on deciding on my stormhost idea i need someone's opinion
people who already were reincarnated
people who died laughing
people who's corpses will never be found
people who died dreaming
people who died who were criminals and thugs wishing they could live abetter life
which one of these ideas are the best
First one doesn’t even seem possible
People who were left for dead and/or betrayed
Not sure how the fourth one would work
Imo the 2nd or 3rd one
Last one also isn’t bad
like form cutlrues that believed in reincarnation adn stuff
very fair
the second and third are my top ones too atm
the last one could work really well as a single character
my oldest and my newest idea
uhg its so hard
laughing wins i think
as death inches closer the warriors devolve from regimented masters of war to laughing mad men chopping down the enemy. Even in death these warriors will always get the last laugh
ight that works
just need a name
So apart from the Votann, has humanity produced a cult for each xenos faction on the tabletop?
Wdym cult
Like worshipping xenos, such as the diggas or that necron one.
stygis semi worship aledar
As an actual faction
god such old ass lore lmao
im so happy votaan are xenos
i know people were complaining on reddit they werent imperium
okay yeah two of the xenos factions are humans but still
So how are Votann xenos?
What
They’re culturally distinct
They’re abhumans technically
But they don’t give a shit about the imperium
They don’t see themselves as human
And they don’t consider themselves human or descendent from humanity
Yeah
They consider themselves their own separate species basically
So do they have any supremacist views or are they pretty chill?
votaan lives abover everyone else but besides that they are kinda chill ig
They’re racist by irl standards
kmao
But they’re not like Omega Uber racist
they do destroy planets for materials which is pretty bad
but the imperium can undo that liek tyrnaid s right guys :D?
grim dark isnt real, writers just make what is cool to them lma o
They can’t
Lol
i was shit posting lmao
The only reason it worked on Sotha is bcs the nids were afraid smh
Of the EVIL SPACE GOD
LMAO
I mean I’m not wrong LOL
They prolly didn’t eat deeper because they noticed the cron stuff
oh yeah necrons fuck up nids pretty bad i think
Can I ask a question, which is out of genuine interest and is not to an attempt at trolling?
i guess?
So between the old necron lore and the current lore, which does anyone prefer?
Current
Old styled Necrons can still exist under current Necrons as well
we mena like, dwan of war
when they were doom poster life haters
also a youtuber made a relaly good mini series talking about cool old hammer lore
adn then instnatly turned into a woke hammer hater lmao
saddest unsubcscribe of my life
am i really the only one who's freaked out by the concept of an anemone growing out of somebody's eye socket
why do i feel like the weird one here
I mean, yeah, that sounds unpleasant
Why do others can return from the dead (Angron) or part of the soul can have presence in the warp after death (Sanguinius afaik)
But Horus can't?
I know it is a fundamental condition of the lore. But what was the lore justification?
Horus was killed by the Big E when he was at his strongest. His psychic power is strong enough to delete souls from existence.
The Big E flaming sword burns with his stored power and is still strong enough to permanently kill lesser daemons.
Horus's soul got obliterated
Got stabbed by the macguffin knife
Dead until GW really needs money
Being ascended to deamonhood makes you a part deamon, which means you can reincarnate to real space because you are of the warp
and horus wasn't ascended nor does he have any soul left to linger in the warp
Yea Horus is one of the few "absolutely dead" things in 40k
Was he strong on his own or are you talking about the time he siphoned shitload of warp energy onto himself before deleting Horus?
Hes talking about the time where he went full anime power yes
Also the only correct answer.
Big E literally says "I'll wait for you. And I forgive you"
Literally got his soul just
Fucking vaporized
He's basically Uncle Ben
Yeah they might bring him back
But it'd be a last resort
And he'd probably die soon after

So far Horus is so gone, not even Fabius Bile can clone the guy
That, and Abaddon gleefully kills off any successful ones.
The Ferrus clones are successful if I remember correctly
Since Abaddon canonically despises Horus for failing the siege.
Like he specifically made Ferrus clones for Fulgrim
So Fulgrim can be like
"Join me"
Every single one of them said
"I would rather die. Literally."
Which is funny as shit.
(And then promptly dies, ofc)
Not one accepted the deal
Tbf the fact that he is a fucking like
Snake creature probably does not help
But yeah

Although Fulgrim can canonically shape shift in and out of snek form
So
Also Horus was pretty much gone even before he got vaporized
Like he was basically a mouthpiece for the Chaos Gods
All he did was ramble
He was more Chaos Juice than actual flesh and blood let's be fair here
And figurehead.
Partly why Lorgar attempted to depose Horus right when reaching Terra.
(Or was it one of the WB daddies? Something along those lines.)
And even then during the actual fight the Chaos entities were still like “we do a little trolling”
and tried to use Horus to goad Emps into becoming the 5th Chaos entity.
Yup.
Basically Lorgar's fatal flaw
Is still believing that Chaos actually cares about anything other than keeping the game on

I still find it funny how the closest we will ever get to a Chaos Undivided Primarch on tabletop is fucking Belakor
Not Lorgar
(In 40k at least)
Arguably a fatal flaw shared by Chaos followers.
Then again IoM living standards makes lying to potential Chaos recruits very easy.
honestly
i would argue that the people believing that chaos actually cares about them
are way more delusional than those trying to use it as a tool
because at least with trying to use it as a tool, you're aware that you can probably get hit back
On the one hand, true.
On the other hand, in the lowest rungs of Imperial society…any pretence or lie of a care is good enough to lure them in
Unless you get outsmarted. Like Magnus.
"fuck it we ball"
Pretty much. Says a lot when 3 meals a day for prisoners can be seen as a sign of corruption/subversion of prison order according to Rogue Trader…
I mean closest that could happen is pretty much a Rogue Trader fiefdom in the middle of nowhere strategic that is lucky enough to not attract Xenos and Chaos attention
If they just pay their Tithes (taxes) to the Imperium then yea, nothing will ever happen.
A “horror” part of 40k is, inherently, what happens when Orks/Drukhari/Tyranids/Chaos comes knocking at your door even if you were not looking for trouble.
(Generally speaking negotiating with three of them is a worse idea than fighting them, and obviously you don’t talk to Nids.)
Remember: as I mentioned, even if you are not looking for trouble, trouble comes looking for you.
40k is…well, think of a slum zone writ large for the entire Galaxy.
Basically, the Imperium literally genocided any other alternatives.
The other reason why the universe is shit beyond IoM stupidity.
Yes that I understand
Like actually, literally genocided every other alternative.
I do agree there needs to be more non-Chaos rebellions that are notable in the fluff at least lmao
Well, yes, that too. Though Aeldari also had a hand I think, since they are also racist supremacists who look down on other species.
And hate it when any other thing lives on their planet.
Although, the funniest rebellion has to be uh... the Badab war
Sadly wh40k greatly reflects rl
basically,
Huron Blackheart didn't want to pay taxes.
And he turned to Chaos due to that
lmao
I mentioned far earlier that since 40k draws so heavily from real life, anything goes in the lore channel.
Every other Chaos character has some tragic backstory or deep seated flaw to explain why they fell. But Huron just straight up said "Fuck the feds I ain't paying taxes."
Since discussion of real life is discussion of 40k inspirations.
Also the Chaos Gods represent the sins and fallings of humanity
blahblahblah

Huron/Badab war is…well, it was slightly more complex than taxes. But yes, it’s an accurate enough meme.
Basically it’s a Chapter finding itself stretched to the limits trying to guard a place/area, and the surrounding Imperial Governors being stupid greedy for trade purposes.
Mostly about Astartes Autonomy, the greed of the Imperium, etc.
But also taxes.
Although tbf, after a bit, I think only the Lamenters was actually fighting for that
while the rest were too busy uh
"MAIM KILL BURN"

I mean, when you throw a group of unstable Astartes Chapters into a war zone…
Executioners, Minotaurs, Characadons…
Slaanesh technically claims to be that.
But in reality it's just about excess.
In fact, every Chaos God claims to be freedom.
But no
You're just chained to another master.
There are some independent Daemon Princes looking to strike their own
Basically to summarize.
If the Imperium is extreme feudalism.
Chaos is extreme late stage capitalism
except it's probably more fun since at least you can try murdering your boss

Chaos is more…emotional imbalance/insanity TBH
Yeah that's basically what it represents.
Structural wise it matches a company strangely enough
Have ever played this little gem Tyranny?
Even has the fake like
"YOU CAN BECOME YOUR OWN BOSS!"
you are not your own boss
have it on my wishlist
That recent April Fools joke “Department Of Chaos Efficiency”
not yet tho I know Obsidian makes good shit tho
...except on the technical department
DOCE
...
PEAK
honestly I can believe it
🗣️
It's very good and the choices are interesting because sometimes both sides are right but you have to decide
I recommended highly
also dilara please help me
I discovered what Jackie's Box is
It's like an auditory cognitohazard
The ear version of a car crash
Its in my head, I cant help you
fuckingmimicfuckingmimic 💀

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