#40k-lore-chat

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summer mural
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imperium architecture is kinda amazing for the setting tbh

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as in

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the decision to have the imperium be GOTHIC

queen laurel
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Ed tell me what's your favorite space marine chapter

green loom
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They sometimes have the old artists do freelance work but they're not in the studio itself anymore iirc

crisp heath
green loom
summer mural
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The giant cathedrals in particular are so nice

crisp heath
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I had this core book wad ny first wh40k book

queen laurel
crisp heath
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Came w the bt and the drukhari box

summer mural
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but i have a hard time getting a good image in my head of commoragh architecture

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like is it just spiky stuff

vagrant fox
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3rd ed is so cool, I love this one

queen laurel
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Will pay you later for the results of my endeavor

crisp heath
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Oo that's a really neat picture of the palace

vagrant fox
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The axe the guy is holding in the bottom right is so silly big

crisp heath
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Look at how big their hands are

vagrant fox
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I think we should adopt imperial scale architecture it's so exaggerated

summer mural
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like

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in real life?

vagrant fox
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yes why not

crisp heath
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🙏

vagrant fox
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The Saudis are building dumber things in the desert

crisp heath
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I'd get behind that

summer mural
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its too inefficient in rl, probably unnecessarily expensive

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but yes

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the saudis have money

crisp heath
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Russia built a millitary church that's very wh40k

summer mural
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to do whatever they want

late osprey
summer mural
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a lot of 40k stuff is just bloated scale tbh

crisp heath
summer mural
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like theres really no military advantage to having a structure on your titan thats literally shaped like a cathedral

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that looks a mission from some assassins creed game

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probably unity

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where you have to sneak into a church and off some dude

crisp heath
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That's the armed forces cathedral

summer mural
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although I agree that cathedral is very 40k

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you can probably have a great game of football in there

crisp heath
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The Vatican is also pretty 40k like

vagrant fox
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Sensible people would strip the cathedral off the titans but the Imperium is so far removed from sensible and that's why I love it

summer mural
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remember the vatican came first

crisp heath
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I didn't reaise the Vatican IS the roman empire

summer mural
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the vatican is an independant country

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its the smallest country in the world iirc

crisp heath
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All of romes money is underneath it

summer mural
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yes

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many generations worth

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it has one of the wealthiest banks in the world

crisp heath
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Very interesting hey

vagrant fox
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The Catholics know how to hoard money and gold

summer mural
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its not just rome, a good chunk of money throughout christian history is still accumulated under the vatican

crisp heath
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And the north Roman empire was the byzantines

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Id like to see the relics they have

vagrant fox
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surely you mean finland the last successor of the roman empire

raven stone
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TBF Eastern Orthodox Church (which is what Russia follows) also has an architectural style similar to Vatican which also inspires 40k
And I would go as far as to argue Ecclesiarch is a combo of Vatican/Eastern Orthodox influences.

crisp heath
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They probably have some pretty morbid stiff down there

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Like a foot christ washed or something KEKW_ogryn

summer mural
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probably massive catacombs too

crisp heath
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Oh the catacombs are mainly children Sitgryn

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They have whole sections built from babies bones Sitgryn

summer mural
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well

vagrant fox
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Sedlec Ossuary pops off though, I really wanna visit

summer mural
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the main value that accounts for a lot of their wealth is archives

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those guys have some books

crisp heath
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It would be amazing my ex went to the roman catacombs

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She showed me pictures she bought from there as your not alowed to take photos

summer mural
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right

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they have 9k incunabula

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afaik

crisp heath
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Something about the flash photography wrecks it

summer mural
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which is a fancy word for books that were printed before the 14th century

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so yes

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photography is not good

crisp heath
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Ohh yes iv heard of these books

vagrant fox
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Bunch of light sensitive stuff is hidden away yeah

crisp heath
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Some of them are printed on skin iirc?

summer mural
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goddamn

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just imagine

raven stone
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whistles

summer mural
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9000 original copies of books printed before the 14 century

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the knowledge

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the PAWA

raven stone
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Truly ancient.

summer mural
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probably some peasants dietery plan tbh

crisp heath
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Imagine the knowledge we lost at that library that was sacked

raven stone
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Alexandria wasn’t it?

crisp heath
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Yeah

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There's people making one in minecraft or something similar

summer mural
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LMAO

raven stone
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All knowledge is perilous, in books or digital form…

vagrant fox
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Library of Alexandria was long fallen out of patronage when it burnt down, most of the texts had likely decayed because papyrus don't last so good

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Sack of Baghdad sucked real ass for stored knowledge though

crisp heath
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Because alot of the info is actually not allowed iirc

rose thorn
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Kill me I ahve an exam today

crisp heath
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Good luck !

rose thorn
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I spent last night doing my homework I. Completely forgot lmao

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I hope Lucious comes with a helmet

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His face kinda sucks lol

summer mural
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good luck

crisp heath
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Luscious the eternal?

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I had the old metal Lucius

rose thorn
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Crazy how old he is

hallow basin
crisp heath
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Pretty sure they been working on it for a while now

summer mural
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ive decided

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tyranids are my fav 40k factions

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ogres for fantasy, deepkin and ossiarch for aos, tyranids for 40k

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NO FUCK THE TYRANIDS

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i still cant decide nvm

storm jungle
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Embrace the vore or be discarded

summer mural
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I like the concept of the hernkyn yaegirs

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space dwarf rangers

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wearing ranger coats

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also that guy in the middle row on the absolute right is carrying a sick looking shotgun like thing with a sling

crisp heath
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LoV have some really cool models

storm jungle
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They're extremely sick

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Cock and stone 🙏

crisp heath
vagrant fox
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the names are always so weird to me

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It's so close to meaning something in real languages but it's half gibberish

crisp heath
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It's nordic inspired I'm pretty sure

storm jungle
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^

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hence the over use of Y's

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HERYNKYN

vagrant fox
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Yeah it's more hernkyn jaegers is one letter removed from just being iron kin hunters and it throws my brain for a loop

storm jungle
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IRYNKYN

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guh I hate it sometimes

vagrant fox
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It doesn't really matter at all, it just throws a spanner into my brain when I try to think about it too much

storm jungle
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It does matter.

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its annoying, death!!!

vagrant fox
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yea you rite I'll make a huge issue out of this for no reason

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but, they do look cool I'll give them that

storm jungle
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Im gonna make an issue out of you in a minute

crisp heath
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Like that meme about space wolves on the Inquisition ship annoying everyone sounding like the swedish chef , SVEN it's me bjĂśrn

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HELLOOO SVEN
OH HELLLOOOO BJORN

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Camera zooms out and all you can hear is this

storm jungle
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Sven Ironwolf about to chalk it up with Kodwolf Wolfheart

crisp heath
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So my first squad of marines I painted was some 3rd edition space wolves lol, this was before the actual space wolf's army was out

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I look back now and want to tell myself off KEKW_ogryn

summer mural
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that sounds hilarious

crisp heath
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Yeah it's pretty gold haha , I see alot of funny shit on Instagram about 40k

summer mural
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on instagram?!

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My instagram is so far removed from 40k

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because im not a real 40k fan i guess

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I got an income and everything

crisp heath
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It happened when I was playing sm2 then all of a sudden my insta was nothing but 40k

summer mural
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smh

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I wish I got 40k insta stuff

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well

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maybe not?

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I mostly get food and alcoholics

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so...

storm jungle
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I only visit instagram without an account to look at the main 40k instagram for codex artwork they sometimes post you cant get anywhere else

summer mural
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sounds doable

storm jungle
storm jungle
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🗣️

crisp heath
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Here I'll get ya algorithm started KEKW_ogryn

vagrant fox
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oh very nice artwork

summer mural
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that art looks exceptionally difficult to actually draw

tall plinth
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Do you guys think the Khan is still alive?

summer mural
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i think hes been brainwashed by the dark eldar and fights for them like that one giant troll guy in 300

vagrant fox
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A few years ago I figured the Khan was dead and gone, now I know he's coming back

vagrant fox
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Don't know how but I know GW likes money

tall plinth
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I think he’ll come back having killed every dark eldar

rose thorn
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Drukhari sprue leak is pretty awesome

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We now know at least we have a foot hero

summer mural
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so on the topic of the khan coming back

tall plinth
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The best topic

summer mural
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to decide these things, does gw have like a committee

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or like is it one guy

rose thorn
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If white scars become non codex complaint

tall plinth
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They have an accountant

summer mural
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because I assume they decide based on financial prospects

rose thorn
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Idk how I’d feel

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Lore wise they are non codex

tall plinth
summer mural
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but they also need to weave in some storytelling to make it happen

rose thorn
summer mural
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so do the executives in some committee just go like we want khan back, and then tell all the creatives to make it happen

rose thorn
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So no one gave a shit

vagrant fox
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I think it's fine, White Scars aren't numerous so they can do some funny things

tall plinth
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They also call eachother different names

rose thorn
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Everyone knows that gw doenst care about you if your legion likes psykers

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I guess BA like psykers a lot

tall plinth
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I put it like this: the white scars appreciate and respect what the codex is trying to do, but they’re really independent so they’ll do the bare minimum if that

summer mural
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hes definitely coming back at some point though

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his fate is too ambigious

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primarchs have survived worse than getting lost in the webway chasing some dark eldar

storm jungle
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yeah its called plot armor

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😭

summer mural
vagrant fox
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Dorn went from being piranha'd to just losing a hand because of plot armour

winter vessel
# storm jungle yeah its called plot armor

Thank goodness they didn’t make it too obvious in Rogue One besides Donnie Yen whacking stormtroopers with the stick at the start, it’s why I like that movie so much

vagrant fox
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It'd be fun if The Jag came busting out of the webway with some freed Deldar slaves but that might be shitting too much on the Deldar

crisp heath
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Yessss! Gws bringing white scars back is this confirmed ??

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Jagathai is one of the coolest primarchs

vagrant fox
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Nothing confirmed as far as I know but primarchs sell well so

storm jungle
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anyone he frees means nothing, commorragh is literally endless

crisp heath
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Ahhh ok ok fingers n toes crossed

raven stone
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Sadly not any time soon I think.
Although given how 3 Demon Primarchs are back now…we can do with one more loyalist Primarch returning.
So who knows.

vagrant fox
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There is that, the Deldar will replace the losses within one to two business days

storm jungle
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literally

hexed orchid
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The Space Wolf range refresh is hinting at someone else returningSitgryn

storm jungle
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I mean

summer mural
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if a certain supreme grand master can roam around the chaos wastes for eternity

storm jungle
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russ coming back is like

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incredibly obvious

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SW make a lot of money

summer mural
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then khan can survive the webway

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also what happened to russ again, how did he go awol

storm jungle
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he went into the Eye to get a mcguffin to revive the Emperor

summer mural
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oh yeah

winter vessel
storm jungle
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he said he'd return during the Yifftime

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I mean Wolftime

vagrant fox
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What's that silly wolfboy prophecy, it basically outlines the primarchs coming back

raven stone
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Wait hang on I got it wrong.
We have 4 Demon Primarchs, and 2 Loyalist ones.
Russ is probably highly likely third.
So Jag could be the 4th. It’s either him or Rogal.

summer mural
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isnt rogal like super dead

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for a primarch

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nvm

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i realized

vagrant fox
summer mural
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plot armor

raven stone
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The super dead ones are Horus, Sanguinius and Ferrus Manus.

raven stone
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The 3 that GW couldn’t really bring back without breaking…everything.

storm jungle
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Primarch returns depend on sales

crisp heath
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Allegedly

winter vessel
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Vulkan is still on his respawn timer

storm jungle
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so you need to calculate which Chapter makes the most money after Space Wolves

spring cairn
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definitely not iron hands

raven stone
storm jungle
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Yeah that.

raven stone
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GW could be temperature measuring

crisp heath
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Smurfs or ba I'd say

summer mural
storm jungle
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Its either Sallies or Fists

spring cairn
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Guilliman secundus

celest dome
storm jungle
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Secundeez nu-

raven stone
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Vulkan or Rogal returns would be nice, either one works for me.

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May the best Marines sales win…

hexed orchid
vagrant fox
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Vulkan just needs to be found to get his ass off some stupidass planet like last time

queen laurel
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If he is alive after that i am blowing my head off with a shotgun

crisp heath
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That's a new one

vagrant fox
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He survived worse

raven stone
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But Russ is definitely coming back at some point.
And come on, we need some DA/SW infighting to give Guilliman a bigger headache…

storm jungle
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Russ is next edition

crisp heath
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Drug addicted cousin of Ronald mc DonaldKEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
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he'll come back in some big event like Arks of Memes

vagrant fox
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What happened to my cuz Ron McDon

celest dome
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Do you think he will get a new thing from the Emperor, or just stay with his spear

crisp heath
queen laurel
strange umbra
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Corvus Corax is another likely candidate for returning

crisp heath
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He's not looking so good these days

winter vessel
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Russ’ return to his Space Wolves after spending so much time exposed to the powers of the Immaterium

hexed orchid
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You know what annoys me most about Vulkan? He's literally just off huffing somewhere

crisp heath
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Corvus is pretty much a warp God atm isn't he

celest dome
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Daemon maybe, god no KEKW_ogryn

raven stone
summer mural
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vulkan is walking around some desert planet in a cloak and hood preaching about love peace and flamethrowers

crisp heath
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Warp entity* my bad

strange umbra
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The question is not "Which primarch would fit best as returning" It's "Which primarch returning would make GW the most money" Which is probably Russ tbqh

raven stone
vagrant fox
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Russ coming back to see the modern Space Wolves

outer wave
summer mural
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still havent seen trigun, heard its good though

outer wave
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It's really good, haven't seen the new anime much

raven stone
outer wave
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The old one is really good though, can't go wrong with it

hexed orchid
summer mural
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lorgar doesnt have a canon model or image as a daemon primarch does he

celest dome
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Russ, Perturabo, Dorn
Or Russ, Religious dude, Crow

crisp heath
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I mean he is green KEKW_ogryn

vagrant fox
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Not that I like War of The Beast at all but didn't they just find Vulkan sniffing his own farts somewhere random

hexed orchid
crisp heath
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Lmao crow

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He has the coolest chapter but the worst charecter lorgar

summer mural
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lorgar is kinda cool as a villain type

storm jungle
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People forget every single decision in warhammer IPs is made on money, not lore

summer mural
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his origin story makes more sense to me than mortarion

strange umbra
crisp heath
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His chapter had the first possessed marines iirc

storm jungle
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White Scars are very much not popular

strange umbra
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True

storm jungle
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people wojak point at them and go "they're cool" but never buy their models

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which sucks but it is what it is

crisp heath
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There like way stronger than normal possessed cause something specific happened to em

raven stone
queen laurel
strange umbra
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But after Russ, what popular primarch is there?

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Vulkan is cool but slept on

storm jungle
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Its Sallies or Fists

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most likely Fists

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Dorn is like

vagrant fox
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People do like their Fists and Templars

storm jungle
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a very safe sleeper option

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also what Sig said yeah

strange umbra
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Black Templars ARE the best chapter, yes

raven stone
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If him getting a tank named after him is supposed to be a big hint…

crisp heath
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I'm waiting for templars to come out again

queen laurel
raven stone
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Considering Leman Russ

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As well

crisp heath
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Pretty sure Bts are one of there best selling factions

summer mural
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people love their autistic rage idgaf about anything except my braindead need to PURGE

raven stone
crisp heath
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I just like sigusmund tbh

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Very good swordsman

summer mural
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doesnt everyone

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sigi had a lot "oh your a badass' moments

strange umbra
crisp heath
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But I don't like the stuff he gets upto

winter vessel
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I’m just wondering if the next Primarch will also get a relic of Big E like Roboute and Johnson. R has the sword and LJ has the Emperor’s shield

raven stone
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Most likely

summer mural
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i think they will

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someone will get the claw

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someone the spear

vagrant fox
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I think it was stated they each would, don't remember where

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or the idea was that they would, whichever suits

raven stone
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If GW chooses Dorn to be the 4th Primarch after Russ, Dorn is likely to have Primarch sized custodian weapon. Which could be cool.
Actually Dorn might get that bitchass claw.

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Since Fists and all.

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GW not being subtle with their imagery.

summer mural
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id just give dorn big E's old underwear

vagrant fox
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It has been interesting, G-man getting the sword, Lion getting a shield to play on their weaker sides

storm jungle
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one of the most sleep inducing stuff ever

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his chapters are like

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"Im some sort of... Emperor's Champion."

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*vine boom*

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"I must lead my... Templar Brethren. Who all wear Black..."

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*vine boom*

summer mural
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you can tell his brain has folded to remove all functions except the incessant need to WIN

storm jungle
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real

winter vessel
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Emperor’s Champion is the equivalent of receiving an employee of the month award

vagrant fox
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It's maybe because I skipped so many of the HH books but I liked his arc from what I glimpsed, going from a being to just some fanatic robot who kills

storm jungle
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Yeah his duel with Kharn is hilarious

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he says nothing to him

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while Kharn is like

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"RAAARRAGHHHH"

summer mural
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disrespect goes so hard lmao

raven stone
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Kharn calls Sigismund damaged. The hypocrisy is rich and delicious.

storm jungle
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^

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one of the dumbest moments of the book

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let me get it

vagrant fox
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Kharn is a funny and swell guy, it's dumb but I love that

crisp heath
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He slapped fulgrim and cut him w his chain

summer mural
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kharn is basically an exalted bloodletter in space marine armor by this point

crisp heath
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That was funny

vagrant fox
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I liked Sig's moments in TEATD but maybe there were a few too many chapters of doing the same thing

crisp heath
summer mural
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i just like sigismunds death tbh

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that truly is like, peak space marine way to die

strange umbra
vagrant fox
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I remember finding it hype, that duel was swagged up

raven stone
storm jungle
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he would get the Emperor's fist

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his Imperial fist

summer mural
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rogal dorn? more like, " IM REGALLY ADORNED NOW!"

strange umbra
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4th loyal returning primarch is obviously Alpharius though

storm jungle
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Kharn has literal brain damage

winter vessel
raven stone
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Actually I think I will call it now.
Russ and Dorn as 3rd and 4th returning Primarchs.
Simply because GW has to have randomly named the new Guard tank after Dorn for a reason.

storm jungle
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likely tbh

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Kharn talking about shit like this as if he isnt some berserk psychopath killing anyone in his path is funny af

vagrant fox
storm jungle
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Äą cried

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I clapped when he said theres only war

summer mural
vagrant fox
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I unironically love it, it's peak warhams

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It's shit all the way down brother

summer mural
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i like how his last words were about trying to get a moral and ethical one upping, like yeah this is whats really important right now, which one of us has the moral high ground and its me, Kharn, the Blood Crazed Champion of Khorne

raven stone
# storm jungle likely tbh

More wild speculation, Dorn is forced to emerge from hiding because the Tyranid Hive Fleet actually reaches Terra to do a proper siege (unlike Magnus’ puny attempt during Guilliman’s journey).
GW will write the plot to ensure Guilliman, Russ and Johnson are all tied down by something else.

strange umbra
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I still think the entire Horus Heresy era was a mistake

storm jungle
strange umbra
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It should've been left mysterious

storm jungle
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the end is worth it

strange umbra
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I honestly could not finish TEATD

summer mural
strange umbra
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I stopped halfway through book 2

vagrant fox
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Thank god I only read like 8 or 9 HH + siege books, I got what I wanted out of it KEKW_ogryn

raven stone
strange umbra
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What the fuck did they do to Ollanius

storm jungle
crisp heath
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Hh is probably some of my favorite lore

strange umbra
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All the perpetual crap was stupid

storm jungle
vagrant fox
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It was a bit unnecessary

storm jungle
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remember its 1700+ pages

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holy fuck Abnett can you just not

winter vessel
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And every book writes Big E differently

storm jungle
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the part where Oll gives up his christianity to embrace the Emperor as a messiah and that he needs to get up through the power of friendship to defeat Horus was hilarious

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like what the fuck am i reading rn

vagrant fox
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I think I blanked that out

storm jungle
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DSFLKDSFKLDSF

summer mural
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naruto vibes

arctic talon
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I don’t know a single person who thinks the end and the death isn’t too long

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Also

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Somehow the ending feels rushed

storm jungle
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It was

arctic talon
raven stone
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@storm jungle when someone gets what GW wanted of its fans better than GW themselves ever does.

https://youtu.be/aKOu8fszpFo?feature=shared

Episode 1 of a multi-part narrative Horus Heresy Battle Report series, detailing the lore of the Second Siege of Cthonia. In "The Pyre of Ambition," the Raven Guard attack the larger, beleaguered Sons of Horus 68th Chapter amidst a hellish dropsite.

Please see my other videos for more content exclusively set in the Horus Heresy.

#horusheresy #...

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strange umbra
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How the fuck did Abnett fumble what used to be the coolest moment in all of 40k

vagrant fox
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I told my friend who masturbates to the fantasy of original Oll and he got so upset it is funny

arctic talon
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Not enough doing

storm jungle
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^

arctic talon
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His editor didn’t reign him in

storm jungle
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Like I enjoy some parts of the 3 volumes but its just too much

arctic talon
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Is the big thing

vagrant fox
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It could've sincerely used some editing

storm jungle
vagrant fox
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There's a bunch of cool stuff but a lot of what's the point of that

arctic talon
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He kind of went hog wild

summer mural
arctic talon
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Lol

arctic talon
winter vessel
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I’ll keep it in my heart. I just like Ollie as the simple guardsman who stood up to the Chaos Juiced Cue Ball.

raven stone
storm jungle
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so you basically did not do your job as an editor

summer mural
storm jungle
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nice one Kyme

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go fuck yourself

vagrant fox
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Another Kyme W

raven stone
summer mural
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this dude is straight up a pro

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his narration is flawlessly serious lmao

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it sounds like im listening to a description of a roman battle from a former centurion

raven stone
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It captures the intended 40k mood just right.
Cheesy enough to be entertainment but also down to Earth and gritty in content, as if it was real.

arctic talon
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I’m not always looking for narrative stuff though lul

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But his quality is insanely good

winter vessel
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Is Tallarn Ironclad a single book or a part of a series?

crisp heath
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The difference between a good narrator and a great one is crazy

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Makes you realise most of the YouTube ones are terrible

winter vessel
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I mean I kinda like Vox in the Void

crisp heath
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I like grimdark shards heaps

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He's v good

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Does short audio books

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Usually horror one's

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I'll have to check out vox in the void

winter vessel
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He does it very nice. I’d recommend the Last Chancers and I love his brief “Pity the Guardsman” delivery. As well as the Gav and Bob series

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My first exposure to a 40k narrator in media was Warrior Tier and that Ogryn short story

crisp heath
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This is his style

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Usually about ships or stations and the imaterium and it's horrors

#

In the depths of Hive City Rokarth, a sinister presence stirs. Whispers of a Fallen Goddess spread like wildfire, promising salvation to the downtrodden and forsaken. But beneath the veil of divine mercy lurks something far more insidious—a Tzeentchian plot to unravel the Imperium’s order from within.

The Adepta Sororitas of the Bloody Rose...

▶ Play video
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This one's really good

vagrant fox
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There was one story I came across about a priest visting some shipbreakers and they find a space marine frozen in stasis in a bit of ship hull and it goes way south

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I've never been able to find it again

winter vessel
#

I think that was a Vox in the void one.

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I just don’t remember the title but I remember listening to how a rogue trader thought he was gonna make bank but they let loose a crazed Astartes

crisp heath
#

The first one i sent is about some imperial turned heretic looting a ship and finding a big chunk of flesh in status which they thonk is a priceless artifact , the second one is v good it's about soritas cleansing a tzeentch cult

queen laurel
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@green loom @summer mural there add you two to the list

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ed you're the death company marine and drifty

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fuck it you're the kraken eater

summer mural
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this isnt like

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an eyes wide shut kinda list right?

queen laurel
summer mural
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oh its this great kubrick movie about secret sex cults starring tom cruise and nicole kidman

queen laurel
summer mural
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ohh uh

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i see.

vagrant fox
#

is there a greater response to near annihilation to clown on the galaxy

summer mural
#

egrimm van horstmann is pretty cool

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I actually really like his shenanigans when he was not discovered as a traitor and was completely destabilizing the order of light from within

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including getting the patriarch killed and then orchestrating his own rise to patriarch

meager zinc
#

So Cawl released primaris marines after the Great Rift formed?

meager zinc
#

How long you think did it take for all chapters on the Cawl's side of the Rift to get fully primaris'd up?

late osprey
#

happened throughout the indomitus crusade IIRC

rose thorn
#

What’s chat’s thoughts on mannfred von carstine

queen laurel
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0 out of 10

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But to be honest I do like the fact that they make him so unlikable they succeed on that

terse kestrel
#

what regiment are the penance armour? the blue havoc one

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I thought it was 51 or 21

arctic talon
celest dome
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We also have 21st (Pc players from before console release)

terse kestrel
#

which ones are the blue coloured havoc armour

celest dome
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Those ?

terse kestrel
#

oh its the 6th

summer mural
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also kinda saved the empire from vlad

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also has cool af vampire quotes like this one

"It seems to me that life is like a fast-flowing stream, and the mortals upon the world are like sticks and leaves caught helpless in its grip, dragged on through life, age, and into death. But we, the children of blood, have stepped beyond the river, rooted outside of its urging flow, standing as stones whilst life and time pass by. Thus we see all things come and go, empires rise and fall, all things once strong become weak. All things, of course, save ourselves."

sly ivy
#

Who wrote that for him? Is that Josh Reynolds?

summer mural
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its from 2nd edition Nights Dark Masters

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dunno who wrote it

queen laurel
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so tell me what do you want to be before i forget

summer mural
#

also on the topic of manny carstein

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I recommend the third vampire war

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manfredd uses actual tactics and strategies, and the empire does too, its kinda competent as far as wars are concerned

spring cairn
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bald mf

summer mural
#

glorious baldness

summer mural
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where manfredd fights united imperials and their dawi allies

terse kestrel
#

Are there still friendly mobian 6th that fight the corrupted 6th?

rose thorn
arctic talon
rose thorn
queen laurel
rose thorn
#

Lumineth gamer

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

God I love stormcasts

#

Skaventide is so good so far

#

The depressed lesbian painter is so good

bright yew
#

The 21st have different flak armor and a blue uniform

summer mural
#

I just reread nagash lore for fun

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feel so bad for that good ol lad alcadizaar

#

its even worse when you realize that after all that, they built mourkain on top of his burial mound

storm jungle
#

he took L's even post-death 💀

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such is the will of Nagash

arctic talon
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Such is the power of nagash

summer mural
#

gw can we have a giant statue of this art please

storm jungle
summer mural
#

how bout this one

outer wave
#

God I love 40k yaoi

spring cairn
#

this would give Skarbrand an aneurysm

outer wave
#

Nah he would cumdge instead

summer mural
storm jungle
summer mural
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i completely forgot what an absolute pos nagash was every moment of his existence

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the mans so busted beyond belief, he got burnt to a crisp in a furnace, then the sooty particles drifting in the wind found each other over decades and decades and coalesced into a blob over decades which crawled itself to the black pyramid inch by inch over decades

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and voila

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evil bastards back

spring cairn
storm jungle
#

Also yeah Nagash has been like

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evil by the time he was a functioning human being around the age of 10 lol

hallow plover
#

More than erebus?

storm jungle
#

Extremely lol

#

Erebus is very much a sideshow attraction

#

Nagash's evil cuntiness has like so many fucking layers to it

#

remember that this man's pettiness lead to him literally becoming a god of the dead

summer mural
#

he created a personal brand of evil that influenced loads of other evil

storm jungle
#

^

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He literally punishes you for being a nice person in life

#

😭

#

LIKE BRO WHAT DID I DO

summer mural
#

well

hallow plover
#

Is this covered in the nagash book/omnibus?

summer mural
#

at least its good to know even nagash believes mannfred has literally no redeeming qualities lmao

hallow plover
#

I'm not knowledgable in AoS

arctic talon
#

You will now be tortured forever

#

As a ghost

arctic talon
hallow plover
#

How do you avoir getting nagash'd on death? Swear your soul to chaos or get reforged into stormcast by siggy?

arctic talon
#

But if nagash takes notice of you

#

That’s rough

storm jungle
#

Yeah he literally sometimes does it just to be a cunt.

#

like... theres essentially no loopholes

#

lmao

languid meadow
#

Didn't expect old daemon yaoi in lore chat

rocky gale
#

Rookie move

arctic talon
#

Now granted she was kind of a horrible person

#

But I don’t think she deserved that lol

outer wave
#

Nagash is unique in that he's just a cunt to everyone, good or bad

#

Dedicated follower or usurper

arctic talon
#

Nagash doesn’t like good people that much

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Tbh

outer wave
#

Olynder and the ferry man weren't good people and yet are placed in ironically awful positions

rocky gale
#

What he did to Kurdoss Valentian was worse

arctic talon
#

Oh he’s uh

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Olynders husband(?) right

outer wave
#

Ye

rocky gale
#

Dude was a follower of Sigmar who overthrew his brother who worshipped Nagash. But on the day of his coronation Nagash struck him down and made him an undead

outer wave
#

Assigned by Nagash despite their protests

rocky gale
#

Then in the realms of the Undead he was starting to amass power and become a Wight King when Nagash again denied him, scooped him up and forced him to marry Lady Olynder

#

Basically the dudes main desire was to become King and Nagash just keeps cucking him everytime he's about to do it

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Then to hammer in the joke Nagash cursed him to float around on a throne and made him unable to talk

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He can only communicate through his heralds which call him names like "The usurper", "The False King" and "The Craven King"

outer wave
#

Don't they also blare horns right next to his ear just to annoy him?

rocky gale
#

While forever wed to a Queen and forced to do whatever she wants

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Yep

arctic talon
#

Also don’t they stop him from getting any kills

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His guards

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They literally stab them before he can finish them off

rocky gale
#

If I remember rightly the Heralds are the souls of the people he betrayed in life

outer wave
#

Man those heralds are eating good

#

They're probably the best example of Nagash being benevolent with his punishments

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"Benevolent" of course

rocky gale
#

Yea I think they're the brothers he betrayed and in that case they were worshipers of Nagash who ruled a kingdom devoted to him, so he's a bit more lenient

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Lets them annoy their brother as a treat

rose thorn
#

Spoilers for skaventide book:

||grand daughter and grandpa bonding over knife fighting in the sewers||

opaque coyote
rose thorn
#

YDYDYFYF

wintry scarab
#

Why does this thing have a second grip?

vagrant fox
#

the worlds worst stock

storm jungle
#

you're like 20 years late to the party

vagrant fox
#

I'd like it if the stock on the ingame model was more that sized, it looks a little anemic ingame

opaque coyote
#

It's how you use it

storm jungle
storm jungle
vagrant fox
storm jungle
#

if it was that large ingame it'd look way goofier

opaque coyote
#

Jokes aside, I like to think that the flamers might be makeshift.

A lot of the flamer patterns in general don't have a stock.

#

Also the fact that it has a wood finish terrifies me for obvious reasons

#

Like what if an ember falls on it. The thing is fucking ruined

#

Considering that the Zealot in lore is literally just

Somebody who decided to go batshit and kill heretics without sanction

#

It would make sense if their flamers are also makeshift. Maybe cobbled together from different guns and industrial tools

#

Also because there is no way in hell somebody would make an STC fragment of a Flamer with a wooden stock

#

Then again, I'm pretty sure DAoT humans were on the rough stage of

"I can use this STC to do any bullshit I want"

#

We already have people doing it with AI after all

vagrant fox
#

It'd probably take a lot more than just an ember unless it's something that wants to explode if you just look at it wrong like eucalyptus

opaque coyote
#

i imagine if there is a tiny error, instead of it just being bad

#

it would be fucking awful

#

like even assuming if it's just like

#

a surface wood finish

#

it would still render the flamer unusable

#

tbf a flamethrower having an error is very fucking bad but there's a reason why they're made out of fucking metal

full obsidian
#

wooden frames are stylish

#

and shit in 40k just isnt logical

storm jungle
#

^

#

only person that gets it

vagrant fox
#

this freakin' bot it's killin me

full obsidian
#

i mean arent the soldiers just meant to believe that guns work because the machine spirit said so

vagrant fox
#

I wouldn't be too too worried if it's treated to be flame resistant, plus the soviets used wooden furniture on one of their flamethrower designs. Then again, it was made to look more like an ordinary rifle to not draw attention

#

but it's vostroyan weapons, it's just their schtick to look ornate and old timey

storm jungle
#

😭

#

automod out on a bloodhunt today

vagrant fox
#

I'll kill that thing one day

storm jungle
#

it blocks the shit I say sometimes too

#

its funny

full obsidian
#

the zealot probably unironically thinks that the holy design of the wooden flamethrower makes it better

vagrant fox
#

Some zealots are white girl ditzy it's true

hallow saddle
#

flame regardant

arctic talon
vagrant fox
#

What's that one Necromunda novel where a bunch of people are given flamers that only work sometimes, Fire Made Flesh or something

#

but being very religious makes them work smile

#

I oughta finish that one, it had some interesting stuff going on

storm jungle
#

Yeah and its Cawdor

#

aka homeless people

#

so not surprised lmao

arctic talon
#

Cawdor moment

opaque coyote
#

I would totally believe the average guardsman would use a fucking wooden finish flamer

#

also space wood or something

#

I'm just thinking

#

What high ass DAoT era human decided to go to the STC and be like

#

"Hey AI"

#

snoorrttt

#

"G-give me a fucking WOODEN FLAMETHROWER?"

#

[WHAT?]

#

"Do it nowwwwwwww"

#

[GOD DAMMIT THIS IS WHY WE'RE GONNA REBEL ONE DAY]

#

"What?"

#

[WHAT?]

vagrant fox
#

Some weapons enthusiasts really, really like wood furniture

dapper gyro
#

Using wood as furniture for flamethrower is a good idea and intentional. Wood has way lower heat transfer than metal, so it keeps you from getting burn.

#

Despite being pretty much a fuel source, wood is difficult to burn, you don't start fire with it generally.

opaque coyote
#

wait that's starting a fire

dapper gyro
#

Yes...

#

You got it the other way.

opaque coyote
#

i mean ig hardwood is probably the best for anti fire

#

which is probably what they use

vagrant fox
#

Walnut which was commonly used for weapon furniture was on the more flame resistant side

#

It does take a bit of effort

#

The ROKS flamethrower was also pretty funny, look at that thing

dapper gyro
#

The thing is that once it reaches the temperature for wood to burn, it will deteriorate into inflammable gas and burn as amber.

opaque coyote
dapper gyro
#

But otherwise, it is good insulation, of course not comparable to modern tech.

arctic talon
#

Also imperial wood furniture for admech guns at least

#

Is super heavily treated

dapper gyro
#

I can only talk of real life example.

arctic talon
#

The vostroyans get along well with the mechanicus so I’d assume their wood goes through a similar process

dapper gyro
#

WH40k can do whatever.

vagrant fox
#

It ultimately is just because it looks cool and that's it, but it's fun to think about a bit

dapper gyro
#

Remember, even SM still use leather pouches...

arctic talon
#

Mmmmm

#

Grox

#

What do y’all think grox tastes like

vagrant fox
#

mm, human skin pouches. Which Black Templar has that again, was it in Broken Crusade?

arctic talon
#

Human leather is a pretty popular thing in the imperium

full obsidian
#

Is human leather actually good though

#

Or is it just there because muh grimdark

rose thorn
vagrant fox
#

I always imagine grox tasting somewhere between mushrooms and chicken

arctic talon
opaque coyote
#

space wood (tm)

#

or something

arctic talon
#

It’s closest to pig leather

#

In terms of properties

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

So it’s pretty soft

full obsidian
arctic talon
#

It’s nice on books and such Id assume lol

dapper gyro
arctic talon
#

Mhm

arctic talon
dapper gyro
#

Don't ask how I know.

full obsidian
arctic talon
#

Lol

#

In any case human leather isn’t that grim dark imo

#

Irl cultures have done it with some regularity globally

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

The imperium doing it for more fancy things seems fine

opaque coyote
#

However there have been cases as late as the 1800s where people, after being dead, decided to donate their body to science

arctic talon
#

We know the Lex Imperialis is bound in human leather

full obsidian
#

Yeah but it's grimdark when it's on a mass scale like the corpse starch thing

dapper gyro
opaque coyote
#

and apparently some scientists decided to turn their skin into leather for shits and giggles

arctic talon
#

For the copies kept in arbite precincts

vagrant fox
#

There's a video about human leather bound books I gotta find

arctic talon
#

The field copies for the Lex imperialis

#

Are not bound in human skin

#

They’re grox hide

opaque coyote
#

A famous example is James Allen, who on his death bed was like

#

"Yo, when I die, bind a copy of a book I like with my own skin. I really like it..."

#

fucking dies

#

And they actually did

dapper gyro
#

Our skin is too thin to make it worth the effort of threating it. It is a novelty thing at best in the human history.

#

No real practical use.

opaque coyote
#

It's basically there because it's cool.

#

That's

#

That's it

#

You're better off using cow, pig, etc.

dapper gyro
#

In 40K, maybe Catachan skin is good enough to make anything out of.

opaque coyote
#

That being said, the Imperium probably uses human leather mainly for like

#

fashion

#

and also books

full obsidian
#

Maybe ogyrn skin is good enough

vagrant fox
#

It's a big ol' death cult it makes sense for them

opaque coyote
#

because apparently the law books paper uses human skin

#

the Lex Imperialis

opaque coyote
coarse pumice
#

Wasn't there this guy who wanted to have his body made into a drum when he died so he could continue to inspire in battle after death?

opaque coyote
#

I wouldn't be surprised if even outside of desperate times, a lot of rations have a mysterious source of "protein"

dapper gyro
#

Shit, I was just talking about how SM still using leather pouches, and now we are discussing the best use for human leather...

opaque coyote
#

waste not want not

opaque coyote
#

C-

dapper gyro
#

D tier at best

opaque coyote
#

The night lords are cringe, do some real tanning

#

Actually that would be a funny quirk for like a Slaaneshi OC

#

"HUMAN SKIN?!? EW I'M NEVER USING THAT. TOO LOW QUALITY!"

#

"Now, Tau Leather is surprisingly good-"

#

I have mentioned like a fashion diva Slaaneshi OC. If only because

#

Well it would sound interesting

#

Eldar would theoretically probably be unable to be turned into leather

#

If I remember correctly they have like

#

no fat

opaque coyote
#

Like there is a phenomenon for human beings that get too old

#

Our bones calicify

vagrant fox
#

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But there's like 5 human skin bound books and it's not so good for the purpose

opaque coyote
#

And I wonder if it's like inspired by that

dapper gyro
arctic talon
#

Very slowly very painfully lol

#

Because grimdark

opaque coyote
#

It's basically a really bad form of osteoporosis

#

just

#

Magical and Eldar

#

which is kinda funny

arctic talon
#

It’s based on the chorf thing

#

Explicitly tbh

#

Since chorfs also turn to stone using magic

opaque coyote
#

wtf is a chorf

#

that sounds like some made up name similar to glaggle simpson or something

vagrant fox
#

eldar have erogenous eartips 100% canon truth

arctic talon
opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

Or an alpha legionary agent

storm jungle
#

Nah it wasnt

arctic talon
#

I forgot which one

storm jungle
#

it was a crazy biologis

#

also Xenology is non-canon

arctic talon
#

Wait

#

Who was the double agent

#

For xenology

vagrant fox
#

Wasn't it a rogue trader who was wrong about all of the shit

storm jungle
#

Uhhh the fucking-

arctic talon
#

No

opaque coyote
storm jungle
#

i forgot his name

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

Liber xenologis is written by a rogue trader

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

And its slightly more sane

opaque coyote
#

although maybe the book was probably dogshit

arctic talon
arctic talon
#

Lol

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
opaque coyote
#

"YEAH WE WILL HAVE GREEN ORKS."

#

"AND THEN MAKE THEM BRITISH. AND MUSHROOMS."

arctic talon
#

/TG/ is degenerate

vagrant fox
arctic talon
#

In its own special way

opaque coyote
#

"AND THEN MAKE THEIR LEADER MARGRET THATCHER"

arctic talon
opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

I know that’s not in xenologis

opaque coyote
#

although that's a very low bar

vagrant fox
#

ah, yes, gis vs gy

#

I'm braintarded

arctic talon
#

Big difference in content

#

Ironically

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

Stilt boy be upon ye

opaque coyote
#

who tf decided

arctic talon
#

Not my video

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

One of them is called Liber xenologis

vagrant fox
arctic talon
#

The other is just called xenology

opaque coyote
#

mainly because i am scared of the stilts breaking

full obsidian
#

Xenos ☕

arctic talon
opaque coyote
#

to simplify further

#

SEEEEEEEEXXXXXXX

vagrant fox
#

if you even blow a breeze on an eldars ear they'll bust a nut and be consumed by slaanesh

full obsidian
#

And that kids is how slaneesh was made

#

Xenos ☕ moment

opaque coyote
#

imagine how that shit would feel in the cold

#

like imagine going into a cold pool the first time

#

constantly

#

that should would be awful

vagrant fox
#

hell yeah feels fantastic

#

I love cold showers and winter bathing

opaque coyote
#

i think you might be insane

arctic talon
#

Actually I just realized

opaque coyote
#

then again i like my weighted blankets

arctic talon
#

Are humans the only dnd race with rounded ears lol

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
#

I don't know D&D particularly well but I figured the shortfolk were roundears

arctic talon
#

Gnomes and halflings got tips

opaque coyote
arctic talon
#

Wait you’re right

#

Nvm lol

full obsidian
arctic talon
#

No

#

It’s based on like

#

I forgot which nation

#

Irl

vagrant fox
#

Looks similar enough to phrygian helmets

#

sorta

opaque coyote
#

the factoid is non canon anyways

#

so

#

eh

#

although apparently it's also an erogenous zone for humans

#

ears

#

i think it's an individual thing because i don't feel shit

rose thorn
full obsidian
#

I mean it's probably someone's fetish

#

Lol

opaque coyote
arctic talon
# rose thorn

HAAAANK HAAAAANK DON’T ABBREVIATE COMBAT PATROL OR COMMAND POINT

wintry scarab
#

Im not trippin right, the animations that occur when walking up against the wall in darktide were added not long ago right? I swear they were not there at launch

arctic talon
#

They’ve been in the game for ages

wintry scarab
bright yew
#

How does a sister of battle join an order?

Do they told the novitiate after a selection that “you go with the martyred lady order” or how?

wintry scarab
#

Same with things like the las gun. I swear it had totally different reload/sprint anims? Also when you inspected the boltgun at launch, your guy would cock back chamber thing when inspecting the gun

storm jungle
#

people complained it looked too fancy/took too long to reload (skill issue)

arctic talon
vagrant fox
#

In one of the Dark Heresy expansion books it talks about drill abbesses snooping around Progenia looking for suitable candidates

storm jungle
#

We cant let homelessness do all the work

opaque coyote
vagrant fox
#

It's a good thing 40klore posts excerpts

opaque coyote
#

the best and worst thing

#

ever

#

if anybody has a 40k question, somebody probably asked it there

#

and aprox. 65% of them are primarch relate-

wintry scarab
storm jungle
wintry scarab
#

😦

vagrant fox
sacred bluff
#

What is 40k...

vagrant fox
#

mans deoderant

sacred bluff
#

how do i explain it to a pretty girl without scaring her away

vagrant fox
#

My dear friend was asked what he was into and he started talking about 40k for about three quarters of an hour and the woman he was rambling at lost any and all interest
So unless they're huge nerds or you pull a baddie by being a fool you don't

bright yew
sacred bluff
#

I pull baddies by being a fool often nod

#

I have the baddest baddie I've ever had, love brasil

late osprey
#

xenologist eldar lore was wacky

#

diamond poop, erogenous ears, needing sex multiple times per pregnancy just off the top of my head

#

there was definitely an inside guy in charge of that page

#

xenologist is where we get Da Fat Ork, though

arctic talon
#

For better or for worse

full obsidian
late osprey
vagrant fox
#

All world building is just magical realms anyway it's fine

bright yew
#

My fren knows about 40k because I sent her a random video of a vtuber with a dog in a bowl avatar talking about the lore in a yt short

late osprey
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i wish eldar weren't as humanized as they are, hot take

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although ive bitched about this plenty of times already, im a broken record

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i like drukhari because they really play up a more alien angle

vagrant fox
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I gotta find that art I really found cool

late osprey
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normal eldar are too much like Space Elves

arctic talon
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The creepy pure black eyes for eldar

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Are good

vagrant fox
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it's fucking peak

arctic talon
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I’m sad GW didn’t do it for yvraine

storm jungle
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are you also gonna say imperials are too much like imperials?

late osprey
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the conventional Elf trope comes with subtropes that just do not fit in my beloved war setting

sacred bluff
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eldar should be extinct

late osprey
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TRUE

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and only dark eldar

vagrant fox
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don't do that to my boys

arctic talon
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They’re not really like traditional elves though for craftworld

late osprey
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dark eldar are so badass

arctic talon
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They’re pretty different from like

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Most generic depictions

storm jungle
arctic talon
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The only thing they share is the huge ego lol

late osprey
storm jungle