40k-lore-chat

[summer mural]

oh blade

[rose thorn]

this gif

[dapper gyro]

I think so, she started from the era were comics were a little of softcore thing.

[summer mural]

yeah blade hates morbius

[rose thorn]

good gay ship material

[summer mural]

because morbius is a vampire and so is blade, but blade kills them

and morbius kills them for his gain

and also kills humans occasionally

so blade is a hypocrite

but hes cool

because hes got a blade and a coat

[dapper gyro]

Depending on which version of blade though.

[celest dome]

Blade didn't chose to be a Vamp though

[summer mural]

yeah ik

blade is a good guy

also the daywalker is a sick nickname

[dapper gyro]

In most case, Blade and Morbius are nice to each other.

[celest dome]

So him being a Vamp killing Vamp doesn't really make him a hypocrite, if that was what you meant

[summer mural]

blade and morbius are nice to each other eventually

[rose thorn]

homoerotic relationship

i ship blade and morbius

[dapper gyro]

Blade still needs human blood to function in the comics.

[rose thorn]

[summer mural]

well its a good ship i guess, since morbius is a conflicted doctor kinda, and blade is a vampire killing oneliner edgelord

[dapper gyro]

He is not immune to all of the vamp down side.

And Morbie helped him to quell that need.

[rose thorn]

forgot frankienstines monster is canon in mravel universe

[summer mural]

it is?!

[rose thorn]

yeah

[dapper gyro]

Yes

[summer mural]

i never came across it

maybe i did

idr

at this point ive seen frankenstein everywhere

[rose thorn]

here is the marvel crisis patrol monsters unleased

[dapper gyro]

There is also a team named "Legion of Monsters", where they are all monster hunters.

[rose thorn]

add nkatu it would be funny

no one will know him except me

[summer mural]

ah yes, the blood angels, thousand sons, generic marines, and space wolves

40k truly is diverse

[rose thorn]

LMAO

whos all the notable vampires in marvel

[opaque coyote]

I still like the thousand Sons for their drip

Egyptian drip always rocks

[summer mural]

https://tenor.com/view/settra-the-imperishable-total-war-warhammer-khemri-tomb-kings-warhammer-fantasy-gif-25029209

settra agrees

if settra agrees, its probably true

[rose thorn]

ignreo the ifunny watermark

please

im begging

[summer mural]

i love the bonereapers

I even love arch kavalos zandtos

and theres nothing particularly lovable about him

[rose thorn]

if a skeleton has a cod piece its peak

[summer mural]

Lmva

I spat out my coffee

LMAO

[rose thorn]

such a good model

[summer mural]

whats your favourite aos faction

mines gotta be bonereapers and sons of behemat

[rose thorn]

that i have: stormcasts and kruleboyz and fec

i want idoneth

[summer mural]

idoneth are my fav elves across all 3 settings

[opaque coyote]

BREAKING NEWS

CLOUDS CAN BE IN THE SKY

[rose thorn]

based, do you use gate breaker ?

[summer mural]

[rose thorn]

in bonereapers

[summer mural]

you can do that?

[rose thorn]

yeah

its a regiment of renown

[summer mural]

OH YEAH YOU CAN

GODDAMN IT

[rose thorn]

gate breaker is the best sob in my opinion

[summer mural]

[rose thorn]

it was like that last edition too

oh do you plan to get a zombie dragon?

idk how good ossiarch monsters are

i think ill pick it up for fec

[summer mural]

Im only gonna get some idoneth

because my friend has them, and they look incredible

and mostly I just like elf lore that I like

[rose thorn]

ah

[summer mural]

instead of ulthuan civil war , wood elves, space dark elves, and meme avatars of khaine

idoneth core conflict is really cooool

[rose thorn]

yee

[summer mural]

also I always like naval and water based things, because Ive spent a lot of my life on coastal areas and on boats

and idoneth deepkin cities sound so interesting

and the general eldritch vibes of living in the deeps

plus its always nice when the entire origin of your race starts with telling teclis to fuck off

[opaque coyote]

Probably not possible because points.

But imagine an all avatar of Khaine army

If you win, it's lore accurate

If you lose, it's lore accurate

[summer mural]

LMAOO

is the ritual to actually turn the exarch into avatar of khaine still a secret

[opaque coyote]

You just have like a bunch of models

You pull out a homebrew rule

"all of them have as much HP as a guardsman squad"

[summer mural]

speaking of khaine, i havent even looked at a single daughter of khaine model yet

[opaque coyote]

[summer mural]

or any lore

i probably should

i heard they are good

but to read morathi lore

[opaque coyote]

Searched up what a Daughter of Khaine is

...

[summer mural]

[opaque coyote]

I can fix her-

[summer mural]

no, no you cant

know when to give up

[opaque coyote]

Trust

Trust

Just as the sun will rise tomorrow

It is assured

That I can fix-

10 seconds later

...

[summer mural]

greenskins and daughers of khaine

[opaque coyote]

So my dick is gon-

[summer mural]

i havent - huh

oh

you tried to fix her didnt you

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[summer mural]

i warned you tbh

[opaque coyote]

Dw I can get an augment anyways. Just gotta call a tech priest

...

5000 AQUILIAS???

[opaque coyote]

Actually joke aside. Does the Imperium actually have free healthcare

Or is it like

Privatized/paid

[summer mural]

time to ponder your future by the beach

The Idoneth Deepkin will deliver you salvation

[opaque coyote]

Like I get that either way the healthcare is probably closer to a medieval plague doctor than an actual reputable doctor

[summer mural]

free?!

[opaque coyote]

But y'know

[summer mural]

I dont know but Im assuming free imperium healthcare is harvesting your organs and turning you into a servitor

there, your cancers been cured

[opaque coyote]

Like there is no standardized currency

So if you're a guardsman and aren't injured enough for servitorization

You got shot in the leg

Managed to survive

Limped back to a medical tent

Will it be like

Deducted from your ""pension""

(note the quotations)

Or is it "free"

[dapper gyro]

What if someone has brain cancer?

[opaque coyote]

... actually that is a good question since like

[summer mural]

its not someone, most imperium leadership actively has brain cancer

[opaque coyote]

Servitorization requires some of the brain left

And if there is a tumor. That's gonna be a problem

[dapper gyro]

Big E mercy it is then?

Like, if we kill all of the homeless, there is no more homeless.

[opaque coyote]

Maybe

Or maybe it depends on where the tumor is?

[summer mural]

no you can probably continue in your job with brain cancer, folks wont notice your decisions are erratic

[dapper gyro]

That's the universal healthcare of the imperium.

You can't be sick if you are not living.

[opaque coyote]

LMAO

To be honest, I believe that only applies if you're like actually dying

Because like

You still need to fucking work

[dapper gyro]

Turning into Nurgle cultist? Not in my watch.

[opaque coyote]

And it's more efficient to at least stop them from dying

[summer mural]

it might not be more efficient to prevent death tbh

just get a new human for the job

or avoid servitor status if not prevent death

[opaque coyote]

Depends.

Like if it's a random factory worker. Replacement is easy.

If it's a manager. A little bit more hard to replace

[summer mural]

imperium is bloated with middle management bureaucracy, theres probably a benefit to letting some managers die

[opaque coyote]

Maybe lmao

Or maybe the person that is dying is apparently the only guy who knows how to use the printing presses

[dapper gyro]

Gman and the old Terra high lords...

[opaque coyote]

Because that can happen

[summer mural]

it can

[opaque coyote]

I remember a story of like.

A IT employee who was an old guy

Like he was only there

Because he wanted to work

And he knew how to manage some ancient programming

The company disrespected him so he left

...and no nobody knew how the system worked

Like I can imagine that happens in the Imperium a lot

Some Magos gets disrespected

[summer mural]

i have heard similar stories tbh

[opaque coyote]

Leaves

The bureaucracy falls

[summer mural]

I mean I am sure that actually happened on an important scale somewhere

[dapper gyro]

You talk as if everyone thinks for the good of the Imperium.

[summer mural]

in the imperium

[opaque coyote]

Basically in general how do I say this

"People work hard, putting their blood, sweat, and tears. To ensure that if a potential disaster comes, nothing will happen"

[dapper gyro]

The majority of them only think for themselves.

[opaque coyote]

Or to simplify it

[dapper gyro]

Even many of the warriors only care for glory in battle, and don't give a fuck about anything else.

[opaque coyote]

Like Engineers basically worked overtime

Near Y2k

Repairing most systems

To ensure that instead of chaos

Nothing happened

The only reason why Nothing Happens is due to competent people ensuring that

And I respect it

[summer mural]

I think the imperium citizens arent reasoning it all that much, and its also not true for them necessarily

they see disaster quite often

[opaque coyote]

Tbf for Imperium Citizens

They probably wouldn't notice unless they're like

In the upper hive

Imperium nobles panicking over Chaos Incursion

Meanwhile in the underhive:

"Did something happen "

"Well the monster that ate my neighbor was redder than usual"

"Neat."

[summer mural]

ironically

knight worlds dont seem so bad to live in

yes your a feudal peasant

but like, the weather seems pleasant

and its not a giant congested slum in an underhive

you just gotta farm in a field everyday

[opaque coyote]

I mean agriworlds are more like

Ohio with just

Corn fields

Snd

Nothing else

[summer mural]

yeah thats paradise in the imperium

[opaque coyote]

The pollutants are replaced with fertilizer run off and grox dung

...so a different type of pollutant

Still the same effect

Like legitimately some Nurgle Marines went to an agri planet

Looked around

And was like

"This shit fucking sucks. I don't know if we can even spread our shit around because nobody will notice a difference"

[summer mural]

[opaque coyote]

Like if you make a Nurgle Marine genuinely think

"I don't know how I can make this worse"

There is a problem

[opaque coyote]

Also Knight Worlds often uh

Borrow most concepts from medieval stuff in general

Including the sexism

So uh

It will suck ass even more than usual if you're a woman

At least in a hive world

Most of the time no one would care about your gender

You all have an equal amount of suffering

[rose thorn]

my city of simgar is literlaly an idoneth enclave mixed with a city of sigmar

its great

[opaque coyote]

Also with all the rebellions. I genuinely wonder if there was a rebellion centered around like

Hating taxes

And just hating taxes

Like that's it

That's the main goal

[dapper gyro]

Just go to pleasure worlds instead and forget about the rest.

[opaque coyote]

Unless if you're a worker there

[dapper gyro]

Depending on what kind of worker.

[opaque coyote]

Basically it's similar to working in most tourist countries

That being

Great if you're visiting

Not so great if you're actually living there

Fun fact, ratlings come from paradise worlds

[dapper gyro]

Just work in marketing and you are good to go.

[opaque coyote]

No idea why they evolved to that

[winter vessel]

As R Lee Ermey once said. “To me you are ALL equally worthless!” Which is my summary of human social life in 40k

Being a Rogue Trader is as good as you gonna get if you want to live a tolerable life in the Imperium

[opaque coyote]

Even then, you'll probably have to hide your Xeno companions inside a fucking shipping crate temporarily if you are expecting customers

Lmao

[winter vessel]

I just like it because of the measure of freedom you can have, which is an even greater luxury than most Humans in the Imperium

[opaque coyote]

True

[young pecan]

You can always just not work with xenos but where's the fun in that

I would at least like trading with moral xenos

[opaque coyote]

Honestly, outcast Tech Priests would love you also

Because like

"You mean I can experiment with Xenos tech?"

"... yeah?"

"Where do I sign?"

Also

Damn!!!

[storm jungle]

"moral"

bro considering the humans you are gonna deal with I dont think it matters

MONEYYYYY

[opaque coyote]

Would Rogue Traders be more racist or less racist than normal

Lmao

[young pecan]

Hey, as much freedom as I have I'll exercise

Certainly less racist usually

[storm jungle]

Depends on the trader

theres ones that are Inquisitor levels of unhinged and some that are reasonable

[opaque coyote]

I mean like

Actually talking with marginalized people usually makes them less racist

[storm jungle]

remember Traders are literally built on the Original Character formula for you to play around with.

[opaque coyote]

Like I remember a story of like a Black Man actually going around talking to KKK members

Even high ranking ones

And actually making them well

Turn their lives around and becoming not racist

Obviously he got threatened, assaulted, etc

Maybe a Rogue Trader kinda has a reverse situation

...

Then again Chaos Xenos exist

So

I guess it just depends (tm) like Dilara said

[young pecan]

It feels weird but also makes sense that xenos are susceptible to chaos

[storm jungle]

Yeah theres no set-in-stone rogue trader really

[opaque coyote]

But I definitely think the ratio of "racist" is more equal compared to most imperial professions

[storm jungle]

Any living being is susceptible to chaos

no one is really untouchable

[young pecan]

There's one rogue trader whose entire ship crew and retinue are gold-plated servitors

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I like to think that it's varied in terms of difficulty.

Like aliens think differently?

(shocking)

[young pecan]

And he's very starved of conversation

[storm jungle]

Nah some straight up worship them as gods.

Race/Biology doesnt really matter

[opaque coyote]

Like for example, for an asexual Hivemind, Slaanesh would probably struggle in enticing them

[storm jungle]

Yeah but again it depends

[young pecan]

Enticing them by way of goon

Other means certainly possible

[opaque coyote]

But they'd be more suspectible to Khorne

That type of shit

[arctic talon]

Rak’gol my favorite chaos xenos

[young pecan]

What's their deal?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah again, I think maybe some Xenos are more suspectible to some gods and less to others. Depending on their thought process

Ofc Chaos Worshipping Xenos exist but like

[storm jungle]

Yeah again theres no set standard

[opaque coyote]

Y'know

[storm jungle]

they just dont get mention much aside from fluff-text because gotta advertise tabletop factions first and foremost.

[young pecan]

Also do daemons canonically take different forms for other races or are they always the biped humanoids (barring monster-type ones)

[opaque coyote]

Every Xenos is different

AND THAT MEANS THEY'RE BAD. SUFFER NOT THE XENOS TO LIIIII-

Jokes aside, again, insert deep as a puddle phrase here.

I do genuinely wish we got more Xenos lore and such since I actually like the alien factions in 40k

Which means that I consistently suffer

[young pecan]

Like saruthi are these freak ass octopeds whose existence is partially in the 4th dimension or something, making them and anything they construct torturous to witness

[opaque coyote]

But like... Aliens in a Grimdark Galaxy are fascinating

[young pecan]

And they are a chaos xenos

[opaque coyote]

And I genuinely wish they explored it more

[opaque coyote]

"AYO check out this non-eucluidean geometry"

[young pecan]

(Unintelligible screams)

[opaque coyote]

human pulls their eyes out and screams

[opaque coyote]

It'd just be funny if they weren't even chaos influenced though

They just like constructing casually physics destroying buildings and statues

Everybody thinks they are because all they know is that their buildings fucking kill people

[young pecan]

I think chaos is actually what gave them the weird geometry stuff

[opaque coyote]

Again, the T'au are both cool and disappointing to me

Like the Auxiliaries are a cool way to introduce different life forms.

And yet they just

Don't

Use them

Why

[young pecan]

They're a wholly tainted race whose entire existence is chaos because of a relic their society came across

[opaque coyote]

You have giants that are as big as Titans

And are good at fighting

But don't use them for battle

Like

????

[opaque coyote]

I mean that is genuinely cool

Although I do wonder if they're like

Undivided

Like INCOMPREHENSIBLE geometry sounds like Tzeentch

But y'know

[young pecan]

Not sure, there was never a specific one mentioned and it didn't seem like any characteristics of the big four appeared. I would guess Tzeentchian

Yeah

But that's the only clue

[opaque coyote]

Again, it would be funny if they were actually chill

[young pecan]

But making torturous things is Slaaneshi

[opaque coyote]

It's just that their existence makes it so that

It kills people

Like I think my favorite trope are just

Eldritch Horrors that aren't actually meaning to be horrors

But their mere existence accidentally causes chaos and turmoil

[young pecan]

I like the idea of it

Reminds me of that one movie where these aquatic sort of squid aliens are peaceful and talk in ink sprays

Not super eldritch but it was a cool idea

The whole movie they're trying to understand each other

[opaque coyote]

Oh that movie was great

Fucking loved it

There was also another example

I think it was Look Outside, specifically The Visitor

[raven stone]

Oh man that shit fucked me up

Like damn

Semi obsessed over the endings

Which is how I came across it lol

[opaque coyote]

Unfathomably powerful, unimaginably large. Just seeing it literally twists your body and turns you into a parody of what you are.

But apparently the Visitor was... entirely unaware that life outside of it existed

In their point of view, they were like

[raven stone]

And is potentially larger than the entire fucking known universe.

[opaque coyote]

"Oh cool a blue rock. I'm gonna stare at it."

[raven stone]

It observing things actively changes shit

[opaque coyote]

And then once it realizes that it's mere existence caused millions of deaths and extreme suffering, it was basically like

"Oh my god what the fuck have I done?"

And immediately fucks off

[raven stone]

Breaks so many rules of physics and reality just by observing…

[opaque coyote]

I feel bad for it tbh

Like imagine staring at something cool

Only for one of the things to talk to you and they're like

"Please stop staring. You're literally causing millions to turn into monsters."

[raven stone]

Yea even though I do find it horrifying I don’t hate it, it literally had no idea.

[opaque coyote]

It is horrifying precisely because it legitimately had no idea

It didn't have any malice

[raven stone]

It is even implied it doesn’t have sentient thought until you do the right things to expose it to the concept of sentience

[opaque coyote]

In a sense, we actually gave it awareness

Which is interesting

It learned from "lower" beings

[raven stone]

And on that note, the less we talk about the hamster endings, the better. Those are just borderline grimderp cruel.

[raven stone]

Some have also commented that the good ending requires you to ignore the pursuit of truth to a certain degree

Which is also interesting as well

[opaque coyote]

Selective ignorance

My favorite

[raven stone]

Indeed

Applicable even to 40k

You just need to know enough about Chaos

Without going goo goo gaa gaa crazy over it.

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I remember a story from 4chan ironically enough.

Basically trying to think about how Eldritch gods see us

Basically they said that it was equivalent to seeing a bunch of ants doing a circle

You're curious so you look down

Only for a tiny voice to yell out

"CTHULHU I SACRIFICE A WOMAN FOR YOU!!"

And you think

"Oh this shit is interesting. I'm gonna see what happens."

They ask for a favor, you try to do it

Only for you to accidentally like

Crush more than you were supposed to because you're so big

And they're like

"Oh my god what have I done??"

[raven stone]

Everything is, indeed, relative.

[opaque coyote]

Like some gods are cruel. And they might be equivalent to like

Kids using a magnifying glass to burn ants

And interestingly enough

In the Lovecraft mythos, a lot of Gods ARE children

So

[winged jacinth]

yeah in the classic lovecraft/bierce stuff the elder gods are just so foreign to our reality that they're incompatible with us and it

and they're not children in age they just have a parent (azathoth, the blind idiot god)

[opaque coyote]

Although it is funny to imagine like imagine Cthulhu actually being a little kid in a sandbox

[raven stone]

You know on the topic of Look Outside, what I think is a missed opportunity, is the ending with the stay inside the house 15 days.
You have 124 super mutated Demi-mutant-gods walking around.
I wonder what those people were…
Would also be interesting to see how mutations are affected by various careers/mentalities not shown in the actual game.
(What would a musician become? A ballet dancer? A gymnast? An electrical engineer? Would someone with schizophrenia break up into multiple copies?)

[opaque coyote]

The scene where somebody stabs him with a boat is paralleled by a small insect throwing a pebble at him

"Ow!"

[arctic talon]

Ant bites you

lol

[winged jacinth]

any time an elder god actually appears in a story its a full "YOU CANNOT GRASP THE TRUE FORM" moment

[opaque coyote]

Tbf red ant bites can sting

[opaque coyote]

It is somewhat relieving in a way though because like

An insect can kill a person. Especially if they're venomous.

Theoretically that means that we still have a chance

Unless again, it's a Look Outside level of Eldritch fuckery

[winged jacinth]

its really more like uh

[hallow plover]

Is there any times where an avatar of khaine doesn't get destroyed?

[winged jacinth]

do you know about flatland

[storm jungle]

Like uh

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah

[storm jungle]

2-3 times

out of 15

[winged jacinth]

we're talking about lovecraft not 40k despite the channel lol

[storm jungle]

^

[opaque coyote]

Oh wow a 20% win rate

[storm jungle]

anyway go back to lovecraft

[opaque coyote]

Better than I expected

[celest dome]

When it's on the table top yes ?

[hallow plover]

I misread elder for eldar

[winged jacinth]

a better example would be a square trying to bite a cube

[opaque coyote]

Oh.

...

I mean if you got a bit of skin bit through that'd still hurt like a bitch LMAO

[celest dome]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/Uf9jdmKY/dreadnought-chaos-warband-and-a-primarch-is-there-anything-the-avatar-of-khaine-cant-beat/

[winged jacinth]

you'd think but a square has 0 thickness so the bite would have no size

[opaque coyote]

Cain books proving they're the best by having the protagonist basically run for his life

Seriously though like

I think we genuinely forget that an Avatar of Khaine, if just going by description and stated power

Would be absolutely terrifying to see

Also it constantly vomits molten metal so it should be too hot to even go near

[hallow plover]

Mortarion didn't lose this one for once

[opaque coyote]

Like

Y'know how the colossal titans in AoT basically like scalds a person's skin off if you get too close?

[winged jacinth]

average iron warriors csm

[opaque coyote]

That's honestly how I imagine an Avatar of Khaine would do to like any creature nearby

Like the sheer heat venting off causes your skin to fucking melt

Also what I imagine is it's defense against like

Fodder bitch boys

Like those weird mini Tyranids, Necron Scarabs

...

Guardsmen

[winged jacinth]

apparently it literally melts projectiles before they hit it

and its immune to heat weapons

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I don't know how Space Marines can even get near tbh

Like their armor should fucking start to melt away

[hallow plover]

Are gauss weapons heat weapons?

[winged jacinth]

no

[opaque coyote]

And yet Fulgrim somehow choked one out

Somehow

[winged jacinth]

they're spooky green taker-aparter guns

daemon prince moment

[opaque coyote]

I think they are partially based off of like

Actual Gauss guns

Only partially though

[winged jacinth]

no they're entirely unrelated

gauss guns have projectiles

[hallow plover]

His hands were burned

[winged jacinth]

necron gauss guns are just disintegrators

[hallow plover]

I'll put that on snowflake primarch biology

[winged jacinth]

when a primarch is involved you can just go "something something latent psychic power something something emperor genes" yeah

[dapper gyro]

Don't forget the "demi god" tag.

[winged jacinth]

but yeah real gauss guns use permanent magnets to shoot a projectile outwards, necron gauss guns are luigis mansion molecule vaccums

[opaque coyote]

Apparently the Necron guns do have one similarity with actual theoretical Gauss guns. They're actually both magnetic and use magnetic force to their advantage.

It's just that while traditional Gauss guns use magnetic force to shoot a projectile. The Necrons use magnets to disassemble your molecules.

The Imperium only calls them Gauss because that's the closest thing they have.

[winged jacinth]

real gauss guns are kinda silly they're basically unrestrained newton's cradles

[dapper gyro]

Gauss gun is electromagnetic.

[winged jacinth]

necron gauss guns are gauss guns the same way a CRT tv is a gauss gun

[opaque coyote]

Bro his armor should be half melted at least

[winged jacinth]

which is to say not really

[dapper gyro]

Necron weapons are weird and silly.

[winged jacinth]

yeah they're barely explained at all afaik

besides that they vaccum all the molecules apart

with green lightning

[dapper gyro]

Like, if it hit your gun, it will de-atomize it up to you if you still hold on it.

However, if you throw your gun to the ground, then it only de-atomizes the gun and not the ground around it...

[winged jacinth]

i think that part is totally inconsistent lol

sometimes they blow holes in stuff sometimes it creeps along the target, who knows

[dapper gyro]

I might argue about uranium stuff yesterday, but that necron shit, fuck no, not in 10'000 years.

[opaque coyote]

Apparently Magnetic force can influence the arrangement and behavior of molecules.

Although we don't have the power or the tech. Theoretically, with enough force, it is possible that we can make a magnetic field powerful enough to start disrupting molecules

So basically Necrons shoot a really condensed magnetic field

Fucking magnets, how do they work

[winged jacinth]

this is technically true yes

once the magnetic flux starts imparting energies greater than the ionization energies of atoms it can start breaking them down to plasma

however my point was just that the only thing the two gauss guns have in common is magnetism

and even there a real gauss gun uses permanent magnets but a necron one would reqiuire (i imagine, we really dont know how they work lol) a variable magnet, presumably an electromagnet of a science fantasy variety

[opaque coyote]

At REALLY high magnetic fields, apparently molecules can literally deform and look like cigars.

Apparently this is a quote from what happens if you get near one of the most magnetic things possible, a magentar. Which is a rare type of neutron star.

"That drastic change in shape would interfere with basic chemistry, causing the normal forces and interactions between atoms and molecules in the body to break down. “The first thing you would notice is your entire nervous system, which is based on electrical charges moving throughout your body, is going to stop working,” says Sutter. “And then you basically dissolve.”

That sounds awfully similar to a Gauss Flayer

...so technically the Necron Gauss Guns might shoot a projectile.

It's just that projectile might be a mini magentar.

[winged jacinth]

i dunno about the cigar thing that doesnt make conceptual sense to me, but in extremely strong magnetic fields the electrons of an atom are physically ripped off of it and electrons are the things that do bonding

(plasma is the state of matter where atoms are stripped of their electrons creating positive ions and free electrons)

[opaque coyote]

This is at like extremely powerful magnet fields. Like Star level

Although I only got that through like

Research I've done just now

So

Like

It could definitely be wrong

[winged jacinth]

i just mean its easier to tear a molecule apart than to substantially deform its electron geometry

[opaque coyote]

Still though, with the casual bullshit Necrons do. Along with how sadistic they can be.

Their guns probably do deform electron geometry just so that you can feel the agony

[winged jacinth]

(biochemist)

[dapper gyro]

It is just GW putting random words together.

[winged jacinth]

when i say easier i mean "energetically favorable" you'd have to force the molecules to not break apart somehow

[opaque coyote]

It's similar to how the Daleks can disintegrate you instantly

But they just make their power setting to just barely kill you

So they can watch you scream in agony

[dapper gyro]

It is also extremely energy inefficient as weapon.

[winged jacinth]

really strong magnetic fields tearing molecules apart is a super common phenomenon we do it in labs constantly

[opaque coyote]

I think it is described as breaking apart molecules

So it's probably just a condensed magnetic field tearing molecules apart

[winged jacinth]

oh make no mistake the necron guns are science fantasy

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I know. This is mainly just for fun

[dapper gyro]

Then again, it turns back into this #40k-lore-chat message

[opaque coyote]

Like I don't believe we have the power to fucking flay somebody's skin with magnets

[winged jacinth]

no we totally can we would just flay everything else within that radius

at least everything heavier than carbon

[opaque coyote]

Huh

It's just inefficient

Then

[winged jacinth]

tremendously

theres a reason we mostly make plasma in confined devices using heavy gasses

[opaque coyote]

Then again the Necrons literally had people living in dirt huts while they had actual FTL spaceships. I don't think they care too much

[dapper gyro]

In the Tithes show, the UM holding the gun when he was getting de-atomized. His gun is gone with him. In the next episode, the BT shield got hit by it, he just threw the shield away and the beam didn't affect anything else but the shield.

Lesson, make armour out of floor.

[winged jacinth]

sometimes the guns just make holes too because the authors dont have time to read each other lol

[dapper gyro]

I will always take the weakest feat...

[winged jacinth]

might be gun to gun since theres like 10 different flavors of gauss weapon

[dapper gyro]

Because at least it is more consistent.

[opaque coyote]

I mean if you can go FTL

[young pecan]

I'm sure a gun that atomizes everything touching the thing that you shoot would be pretty inconvenient for precision scenarios

Like hostages

[winged jacinth]

that's not really a concern for the necrons

[opaque coyote]

Casually make a weapon that can literally make stars go supernova

[young pecan]

Granted, not common for necros but

[opaque coyote]

I don't think they care if their weapons are inefficient

[winged jacinth]

i love that necrons have warpless FTL and they hate the warp but they WILL NOT SHARE

everyone else has to use hell

[opaque coyote]

Honestly considering how badly they treated peasants back then

Probably happened approx. None of the time

[winged jacinth]

keep punching holes in reality guys also dont do that but do do that

[opaque coyote]

Like the Necrontyr were legit just assholes

Somehow even worse than humanity

Somehow

That is a fucking accomplishment

Being turned into robots actually made them better

[winged jacinth]

they're based on the largely debunked image of the Old Kingdom of Egypt as a slave state

[median star]

is their at all a universal currency for the imperium is gold still worth anything or

[opaque coyote]

I could genuinely believe that they made ""Gauss"" weapons purely to torture. Because feeling your skin, muscles, and bone deteriorate would be painful @winged jacinth

[opaque coyote]

No.

They basically run off of barter

So yes Gold would have value

[winged jacinth]

i dont think there's a universal currency? the macroeconomy of the imperium is pretty unexplored

[opaque coyote]

But it'd vary depending on the system and their needs

Although tbf

[winged jacinth]

the thing about gold is that theres actually quite a lot of accessible gold in space

[opaque coyote]

With how much gold the Imperium uses. It definitely still has value if only as a building material

Similar to how there is a Sand black market today

[winged jacinth]

thats how they can gild literally everything i assume

[opaque coyote]

I can imagine there being a gold market because of the industry of building all that gilded shit

[celest dome]

Most of the Imperium wider system work on the Administratum.
So I guess they're the one that take care of of most thing

[winged jacinth]

gold is probably valued for decoration and electronics manufacture still but doesnt have the weird valuation cult modern day does

[hallow saddle]

the real currency of the imperium is human lives~

[opaque coyote]

I wondered about making like

A Khornate PMC

Basically pay them and they'll fight for you. They are completely willing to use Xenos tech but are mostly human.

[winged jacinth]

a big reason gold is expensive today is because people invest in gold and it cyclically maintains its own value

[opaque coyote]

It doesn't matter if the T'au, Eldar, whatever

Pays them

If they pay enough

For a job

They will do their job

And complete it

The only code of honor is that once they accept a job. They cannot be bargained to move away from it

They will complete the job and appease the blood god

[winged jacinth]

worlds or systems are almost independent polities in most ways so they probably have their own fiat currencies and the few people that trade between systems do so in a primarily bartered fashion

[dapper gyro]

The shield was hit by a necron destroyer... so I imagine the "guass gun" flavor on it should be somewhat more powerful than the warrior portable ones...

[opaque coyote]

But there is one problem, and Ironically it's about what we're talking about.

Wtf would they even accept as payment

Since the Imperium doesn't have a universal currency

Like I am genuinely having a hard time thinking about what they would accept

I was thinking of like

Supplies and Men.

Like they ask for people as payment

[winged jacinth]

i imagine a theoretical trader with a 2 system route would have fiat accounts on both worlds but only use them to exchange cargos and acquire things locally

[opaque coyote]

And also technology

[winged jacinth]

khornates would probably accept sacrifices as payment

or if they have access to something like butchers nails, as new members

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I was thinking like they would accept people for either

A) more soldiers to train
B) sacrifices

[winged jacinth]

and then yeah guns and bullets and bombs and stuff

[opaque coyote]

But I genuinely wonder like

"Would they accept raw resources like metal?"

Like would a PMC accept that?

[winged jacinth]

not unless they looted a factory ship or something

[opaque coyote]

I thought about them having an RnD department. New ways to figure out to

KILL MAIM BURN

[winged jacinth]

khornates dont seem like the research and development types

[opaque coyote]

Also would give me an excuse to make designs

[winged jacinth]

but i could see them manufacturing weapons if they're based out of a looted factory ship

[opaque coyote]

True but War is partially about well

Cunning and ingenuity.

[winged jacinth]

if you want to do it efficiently

[opaque coyote]

Like War causes new weapons to be made

[arctic talon]

the WE do have strategy books

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think pre-heresy they were generally described as.

Being good at planning but having trouble actually having things go to plan

[winged jacinth]

theres no reason they couldnt just hang out with hereteks

[arctic talon]

no

even post heresy lol

the WE have really good apothocaries

and strategists

downside THE NAILS ARE BITING

[storm jungle]

this is to parody how much you wanna kill your average tabletop player when you are playing World Eaters IRL

[winged jacinth]

actually for your idea, them teaming up with hereteks to sieze a mechanicus ship to be based out of giving them research and manufacturing abilities would be cool

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they had insanely effectively rate of creating marines

[opaque coyote]

"Hmm.. I was thinking of attacking this spot. This would be a less expected avenue o- THE NAILS ARE BITING."

"RAAAA-"

[dusk patrol]

Which similar to the Iron Warriors

Is kinda the cold irony of their numbers

[opaque coyote]

...I can't believe I haven't thought about that

Stealing that idea

[dusk patrol]

If their primarchs had given a fuck they would have been some of the largest legions

[winged jacinth]

that would make a good tabletop premise too

[storm jungle]

the loyalists were playing chess while the traitors were playing RTS

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chess-win-gif-17584376170894933930

[winged jacinth]

you dont lose the geneseed if you fuck up making a marine right

[dusk patrol]

But not good effective RTS

[opaque coyote]

I either want

A Hive City management sim

Or a SM Chapter management sim

[dusk patrol]

Just unit spam bullshit until you win

[winged jacinth]

so that's the limiting factor rather than success rate

[dusk patrol]

I wouldn’t know I would never do that

Definitely not

[opaque coyote]

Hive City management sim first tho

It'd basically just be Frostpunk but 40k

[winged jacinth]

its always amused me how theres always more CSM they never run out

[opaque coyote]

...the child labor is by default though

[winged jacinth]

i know they make more but you only ever hear from ones alive since the heresy

[storm jungle]

yoinking

[dusk patrol]

Look if the devs didn’t want me to upgrade literally everything and then attack they shouldn’t have put all those shiny upgrades on the structures

[storm jungle]

Its explained but like at the end of the day you need armored guys to fight each other.

[opaque coyote]

Also occasionally the Chaos Gods revive somebody if they think they're funny.

That's why they revived only ONE of the twins in Darktide

[dusk patrol]

“Some fuck, reduces pierce damage by 5%? The fuck is pierce damage? Sure whatever.”

[opaque coyote]

And not the other because they're dicks

[arctic talon]

Marines before istvaan strapping extra armor on

[winged jacinth]

i like to think that the chaos gods intentionally reserve heresy-era traitor marines for narrative roles

[opaque coyote]

Honestly the funniest thing is imagining that like

In 40k they actually see shit like weapon and armor stats. And it's just treated as normal

[dusk patrol]

Traitors equipping banestrike rounds before Istvaan V:

https://tenor.com/view/little-lesson-trickery-lazy-town-gif-22954407

[arctic talon]

God

Istvaan is so funny

The loyalists had worse armor, worse bolters, worse bolter ammo

And the worst positioning imaginable lol

[opaque coyote]

"Hey guys, how's it goi-"

"KILL."

"bro what-"

istvaan massacre

[dusk patrol]

Still managed to take out way more traitors than they should have

[arctic talon]

Do you think they armored the marines they were sending to die on istvaan 3 in MK2 and 3 lol

[winged jacinth]

dont they virus bomb istvaan after the betrayal

[arctic talon]

Since almost all the traitors had MK4

[opaque coyote]

Weren't the loyalists more numerous or I forgor

[dusk patrol]

I love when Ferrus pushed to Fulgrim they were like “Wait he can’t do that.”

[winged jacinth]

why didnt they start with that

[arctic talon]

At 3 yeah

[dapper gyro]

It is also funny because it is the big E who allowed those traitor legions to get better equipment first.

[dusk patrol]

Laati

Istvaan V

[arctic talon]

They wanted to make the loyalists suffer at Istvaan V lol

[dusk patrol]

Was literally all the traitor legions

[winged jacinth]

me when i sacrifice large numbers of soldiers to make a point

[arctic talon]

And it was a declaration of war

[dusk patrol]

Vs three loyalists

[storm jungle]

it was

what we call in professional military terms

an orgy

[opaque coyote]

A) 40k moment, land battles need to be done.

B) It was funny

[opaque coyote]

Got it

[winged jacinth]

"hmm should we commit thousands and thousands of difficult to replace troops or like 5 cyclotronic torpedoes"

[arctic talon]

Gamgbang

[storm jungle]

love that map

[opaque coyote]

Tbf

Chaos

[storm jungle]

good thing some made it out of the fortnite encirclement

[opaque coyote]

That is their entire game

[arctic talon]

It’s so good imo

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

It’s such a good map

[storm jungle]

Its not the same without Alan Bligh

[dusk patrol]

They had good building skills luckily

[storm jungle]

the new rulebooks are so bland lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah i love the basebuilding bits

nothing sus here

[arctic talon]

We’re just uh, setting up artillery yeah

To bombard the traitors

Totally hahahaaaaa

[dusk patrol]

Drop a little funny nuke

[opaque coyote]

A little bit of trolling

A smidgen of tomfoolery

[dusk patrol]

It’s ok the Alpha legion and Word Bearers are over there

[opaque coyote]

[opaque coyote]

"The Alpha Legion are trustworthy. They'll protect us!"

[arctic talon]

Oh also they couldn’t virus bomb the planet, Horus and Fulgrim were on it

[winged jacinth]

oh i forgot there was a chaos sandwich and that was why they couldnt casually glass the planet

yeah

[arctic talon]

I just remembered that

Lol

[dusk patrol]

They also wanted to confirm kills

[arctic talon]

They tried to get Ferrus to join them

[dusk patrol]

The traitors had setup defenses that orbital attacks wouldn’t work on

[winged jacinth]

3 traitor legions were already there as bait

[storm jungle]

me playing total war with my friend as hes neckdeep in the enemy lines as I aim my hellstorm batteries on his position

[plush mason]

so there is 2 Istvaan battles right?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

Its entire answer is just spectacle.

[dusk patrol]

Four I think actually

[arctic talon]

3 and 5

[storm jungle]

ground fighting also just looks cool

thats it really

[plush mason]

how did that happen?

[arctic talon]

WB weren’t in full numbers

[arctic talon]

First one was to purge loyalists in traitor legions, second one was a meeting gone wrong

[winged jacinth]

oh yeah there were DG there too

[storm jungle]

like, you cant have an Anakin/Obiwan fight if Anakin just blew up Obi up in space somewhere, no "YOU WERE MY BRO ANNIE" moment

[dusk patrol]

EC, SoH, DG, World Eaters

[arctic talon]

Fulgrim and Horus asked Ferrus to join

[dusk patrol]

Cerrhs

[arctic talon]

Ferrus said fuck off no and attacked

[plush mason]

ah

[opaque coyote]

Horus: "Hey Ferrus, do you wanna join?"

Ferrus: "YOU'VE KILLED OUR BROTHERS!"

Horus: "I think he might not want-"

Fulgrim: "Nah trust I can totally convince my bro."

[arctic talon]

Ngl it would have been slightly less bad

[winged jacinth]

cant wait for 2026 when ferrus mannus shows up again with a metal head

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-man-leaps-ice-water-gif-12813214525354223849

[arctic talon]

If Dorn had chosen better uh reinforcments lol

[storm jungle]

also 2026 is gonna be Leman

[arctic talon]

Then again he had 0 clue any of them were traitor

2026 is leman

[dusk patrol]

Tbf it was all so orchestrated, they were so fucked from the start

[winged jacinth]

turns out his real brain was in the hands all along....

[arctic talon]

If it isn’t GW has some absurd self control

[plush mason]

like confirmed?

[dusk patrol]

It makes sense, Armageddon 4.0 will probably lead into it

No

[arctic talon]

Even if Dorn didn’t pick the secret traitors they prolly would still be there tbh

[dusk patrol]

But likely

[storm jungle]

Nah

just a guess

[plush mason]

ok

[arctic talon]

It lines up

[winged jacinth]

they could pull some revolver ocelot liquid snake shit considering his hands were necrodermis

[arctic talon]

With release order

[storm jungle]

Lmao god sakes

"I LIVE ON. THROUGH THIS ARM."

[dusk patrol]

They also had the benefit of the chaos gods literally fucking with communication and travel

[plush mason]

if he comes back think he will still be loyal?

[winged jacinth]

russ or vulkan are the most likely returnees next i think

[languid meadow]

I have a feeling

[storm jungle]

yes

[winged jacinth]

russ is too epic to not be loyal

[languid meadow]

invest in wolfe stocks NOW

[dusk patrol]

It’s actually insane how hard to traitor threw tbh

[opaque coyote]

The Iron Hands actually did try this if I remember correctly

[storm jungle]

theres no need for renegade primarchs, you gotta think from a tabletop perspective

not a lore one

its how GW plans these things

[plush mason]

true

[storm jungle]

SW players would get upset

[dusk patrol]

Also it’s stupid

[storm jungle]

or whatever tf

[dusk patrol]

Like why would he be renegade

[plush mason]

plus the SW did just get a sick ass new line up

[dusk patrol]

Besides le subverted expectations

[winged jacinth]

and yeah in an extremely practical sense they want to sell russ models to SW players for 160 USD

[storm jungle]

the Lion is the closest equilavent rn

hes still loyal but hes still going around Nihilus executing/replacing governments

its very funny

[dusk patrol]

He’s busy thinking of hard ass lines to drop

[winged jacinth]

the lion is batman to gulliman's superman

[winged jacinth]

(edgy)

[languid meadow]

People may hate the primarchs coming back but I love when the loyalists ones come back and just see the state everything is in

[opaque coyote]

Perturabo during the Siege of Terra be like

"WHY ARE Y'ALL THROWING!"

"We're not. We are actually making good headway. You're just salty because logic doesn't work."

"THERE IS LITERALLY NO STRATEGY HOW IS THIS WORKING???"

EC snorts drugs made out of human beings

"Whuh?"

"...I'm outta here."

[dusk patrol]

Lion works best when he gets to go around killing people

[storm jungle]

TLDR: "I dont care who you are. I dont care what you are. You better change your ways, or change your Chapters 🙏 "

[dusk patrol]

And he’s in a target rich environment

[storm jungle]

at this point most of the setting revolves around them fandom-wise so it was always inevitable

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-the-cheater-you-may-want-to-start-changing-your-ways-changing-your-name-gif-3795043828019959523

[plush mason]

think Russ will still hate religion?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Probably

[opaque coyote]

Yes

[storm jungle]

but do nothing about it

[arctic talon]

Lion still hates it

[winged jacinth]

i love that the lore for the lion returning is that he was being tended to by mysterious jawas in a secret room

[arctic talon]

Guilliman doesn’t as much

[plush mason]

that will be fun

[dusk patrol]

Russ will do his own thing probably

[languid meadow]

Gman sees it as a tool no?

[dusk patrol]

Although I expect we’ll see a much older Russ

[storm jungle]

those jawas have had a hard job

[dusk patrol]

Probably very different

[languid meadow]

not a hate or love thing just a practical thing

[arctic talon]

Lion literally wants to slaughter all the ecclisarchs lol

[opaque coyote]

Gman is just trying to staple things together. I don't think he cares

[arctic talon]

When he meets them

[storm jungle]

Will he do it though?

[plush mason]

yeah just like Dorn afaik

[storm jungle]

Find out next week

(he wont)

[arctic talon]

He does it in codex stuff

Lol

[dusk patrol]

Lion prefers to just keep moving to avoid causing incidents

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats codex fluff

[opaque coyote]

He will probably try to but Guilliman will have to hold him back lmao

[arctic talon]

Guilliman can’t do shit

[winged jacinth]

it seems like the wrong time to destroy the imperial cult in his half of the galaxy to me

[dusk patrol]

He avoids dealing with people directly cause he hates it

[arctic talon]

Lions in a dark room

[opaque coyote]

Definitely not.

[arctic talon]

With everyone else locked up with him

[storm jungle]

Thanks for killing this random ecclesiarch no one cares about Lion King. Can you do the same with the Adeptus Terra

[arctic talon]

No

Wrong side

[storm jungle]

yeah thats the agreed consensus

[arctic talon]

💀

[winged jacinth]

they've got a line drawn down the middle of the galaxy brady bunch style

[dusk patrol]

He’s too busy teleporting behind you

[plush mason]

he will want to but he wont because then who will the SoB serve?

[storm jungle]

the Imperium is basically unsalvagable

[dusk patrol]

Nothing personnel kid

[languid meadow]

I hope Russ comes back mellowed out like Lion because the space wolf development has been the only space marine chapter development I've been interesting in

[storm jungle]

Hes the guy beside me?

[arctic talon]

Nihlus is totally fucked

[storm jungle]

Or behind me?

Or right infront of me?

[arctic talon]

Ngl Lion should have had GW double down

On his psychopathy

Lol

[dusk patrol]

[winged jacinth]

i think russ will come back having replaced exuberance with grimness and it will be kinda annoying but fine

[opaque coyote]

"Lion. I know that they're bad, but you have to tolerate the-"

"I WILL FUCKING KILL THEM ALL."

"Listen. I'm happy you're back but please don't fucking kill one the last people helping me manage this bloated shithole-"

[dusk patrol]

I hope/think we’ll get a Rune King Russ tbh

[arctic talon]

Lion is too nice

[opaque coyote]

"TRAITORS! TRAITORRRSSS!!"

[dusk patrol]

They could go a lot of ways

[arctic talon]

In sons of the forest

Brooks sucks

[dusk patrol]

But the we don’t really need another

[languid meadow]

MONTHS OF SHAME 2 BABY! ! ! ! ! !

[dusk patrol]

Melee boy primarch

[arctic talon]

Brooks is so ass

At writing characters

[opaque coyote]

The Jawas lost the asshole part of his brain while repairing him

[storm jungle]

UTINI

[dusk patrol]

Psyker Primarch would be more interesting

[arctic talon]

That was literally the best part

I don’t get why people want nice people

[dusk patrol]

Plus Space Wolf psyker powers are sick and have some cool visuals

[arctic talon]

I WANT VIOLENCE

[storm jungle]

because humans are the good guys and need to be relatable

[arctic talon]

I WANT PROBLEMS

[plush mason]

i wonder how the space wolves will reconcile their legend of Ragnarök with the Wolf King's return

[opaque coyote]

Don't worry, surely they'll find it

[dusk patrol]

Having that be primarch tier would be awesome

[opaque coyote]

And Lion will be as right as rain

[dusk patrol]

Also having Russ fight Magnus in a psyker duel would be peak

[arctic talon]

This is why Cawl and Vahl are the best new imperium characters introduced

[storm jungle]

Wolf Timenarok is happening right now

they see the Rift Era as the end times

[arctic talon]

Because they’re actual derranged psychopaths

Who have no fucking morality

[winged jacinth]

oh god they have a modified ragnarok myth? how'd i miss that

[plush mason]

ah so the wolf time is now

[opaque coyote]

Tbf, we do like a lot of characters because they're relatable. Even in 40k

The good guy part made my soul splinter off for a sec

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah

[arctic talon]

The wolftime

Lul

[storm jungle]

and of course its called Wolf Tme

[dusk patrol]

Morvenn Vahl is gatekeeping you from living

[storm jungle]

Vahl is great

[opaque coyote]

Chance Time!

[storm jungle]

until you read her book

[arctic talon]

Vahl gaslights you, gatekeep you and girlbosses

[dusk patrol]

Gaslighting you and setting you on fire

[arctic talon]

Is it really bad

[dusk patrol]

Girlboss

[languid meadow]

with drip that good fuck it let them name everything with wolf

[dusk patrol]

It’s meh

[storm jungle]

one helldrake keeps an entire planet's surface contested

[arctic talon]

Guh

[storm jungle]

against like an entire armada of imperials

also like

[opaque coyote]

Guh

[storm jungle]

just like with Leontus

it explores nothing regarding her role

lol

generic heresy line

[opaque coyote]

Fantastic

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s so lazy

[storm jungle]

kill evil cultists

Yeah its like BAD bad

[arctic talon]

But yeah I like Vahl in her codex lore

And warzone charadon

[winged jacinth]

i cant find a good source for what the modifications entail

[arctic talon]

She’s an actual derranged psychopath

[dusk patrol]

Like ffs she’s A FUCKING HIGH LORD

GAAHEHDHEHS

USE THAT

[arctic talon]

She fucking grapples with some CSM warlord

[dusk patrol]

SHES A GODDAMN HIGH LORD

[storm jungle]

I knew we were cooked the moment I read her short story

[arctic talon]

And almost drowns because she won’t stop carving his face out

She’s so based

[plush mason]

ngl the helldrakes are very unassuming for how insane their lore is

[storm jungle]

Yeah but like

[winged jacinth]

but presumably odin's role is filled by the god emperor which means russ can be Víðarr

[storm jungle]

ITS 1 FUCKING METAL BIRD

AGAINST AN ENTIRE IMPERIAL FLEET LANDING

WHAT IS THIS MARVEL RIVALS?

[dusk patrol]

Like come on guys

[storm jungle]

yeah it is

[opaque coyote]

Generic Chaos Cultists. My favorite.

[storm jungle]

they call him the Wolffather

I MEAN

Allfather

[languid meadow]

it's like a cooler version of the baby carriage

[winged jacinth]

i hope russ comes back with an incredible boot and it lets him stomp on daemons

[plush mason]

i just mean, you wouldnt think a metal fire bird was the result of a loyalest space marine pilot being captured and fused to his craft

[dusk patrol]

She can make me worse

[winged jacinth]

that would be the sickest ragnarok deep cut

[opaque coyote]

...

Why does he have a fucking toy castle behind his head

[dusk patrol]

He

Laati

[winged jacinth]

40k design

[dusk patrol]

You ignorant slut

[winged jacinth]

the more you look like a cathedral the stronger you are

thats why they make titans like that

[arctic talon]

its because its badass, don't question her

[plush mason]

average SoB logic

[arctic talon]

unless you want to get set on fire and impaled

in which that case sure

question her

[dusk patrol]

Why wouldn’t she tbh

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/spike-speigle-spike-cowboy-bebop-i-love-the-kind-of-woman-that-will-actually-just-kill-me-actually-just-kill-me-gif-14610684142963450588

[dusk patrol]

Like especially with SoB that shit literally has an effect

[winged jacinth]

its complimentary to the no helmets rule

[arctic talon]

she does have a helmet tbf

[dusk patrol]

She’s literally protected by the Emperor

[opaque coyote]

The close up made me realize she was a she.

[winged jacinth]

by looking like a cathedral and not wearing a helmet you gain protection comparable to a spaceship void shield

[arctic talon]

also yeah the thing has a fucking refractor shield lol

[storm jungle]

imagine if a grenade landed behind her headspace

[opaque coyote]

God dammit I have my dad's gender blindness

[storm jungle]

shes cooked 😔

[arctic talon]

refractor shield + faith bullshit + power armor + armor

[dusk patrol]

It’s a dud

[arctic talon]

lol

[dusk patrol]

Emperor protects

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/dud-mgs2-metal-gear-solid-kojima-a-dud-gif-1566671706729260905

[dusk patrol]

Unironically probably what would happen

[storm jungle]

Well she cant die

so yes lmao

[dusk patrol]

Can you imagine how annoying that would be

[opaque coyote]

...I actually fuck with the huge pauldrons though. I don't care how goofy they look

It's awesome

[storm jungle]

it doesnt look goofy imo

[arctic talon]

least derranged SoB named character