40k-lore-chat

[rocky gale]

Brooo Grey Knights need an entire range refresh and GW decides to only give them a new version of the baby carrier

[arctic talon]

Next edition

[dusk patrol]

They were never getting that rn

[shadow plover]

which doesn't even look any better

hilarious

[dusk patrol]

Hopefully next year or so

[arctic talon]

Yeah unfortunately

[rocky gale]

I feel bad for all 8 Grey Knight players

[arctic talon]

Valrak hasn’t been wrong with these big launches yet

[dusk patrol]

It’s how it is

GK need literally everything except like two models redone

And that’s gonna be a big thing

They suffer from being unable to really use other marine kits

[rocky gale]

Looking at it now I’m glad I didn’t stay up for the reveals

[shadow plover]

they'll probably cook up some large event for them, would've thought the new Armageddon stuff would've been it but no

[arctic talon]

Prolly something bigger

Idfk

Maybe they stop vashtor from ascending

Or some shit lol

[dusk patrol]

Maybe one of the other daemon primarchs

[arctic talon]

The Vashtor plot is still on going

[dusk patrol]

Yup

[arctic talon]

The thing is

How the fuck are they gona do the new GK kits

Is it gona be like now where everything is 2 tri/quad build kits

Or are we going to get 1 kit per strike squad “variant”

[dusky scroll]

Are there any 40K game involving the guardsmen? Or games that are more grounded, involving regular humans (not enhanced with tech like space marines or psykers or whatnot).

[shadow plover]

a few strategy games

and well, Darktide

[dusky scroll]

I wish there were a Fallout or Cyberpunk-like Open world action RPG.

[shadow plover]

That wouldn't really be a fitting setting for a guardsmen game though

[dusk patrol]

I wish I had a nine inch cock

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Thanks eternal

[dusky scroll]

The kind where you do quests, make choices, level up and get better.

[dusk patrol]

Well while we’re saying stuff we wish for

[queen laurel]

that's just a bounty hunter game

Sat in a hive city

[dusk patrol]

But yes if they did that

[queen laurel]

Maybe you can have your background as an old guard veteran that decided to somehow defect

[dusk patrol]

It would probably be an Inquisitor game

[queen laurel]

But that's about it

[arctic talon]

That doesn’t fit a guardsmen at all yeah

Hiredgun sort of fits that whole

Level up thing

But it’s just violence lol

Because munda

[opaque coyote]

Turn it down an inch because I think that's at the point where it genuinely starts to hurt people

[dusky scroll]

Doesn't have to guardsmen.

[arctic talon]

Prolly would be an inqusitor

Honestly I want a cyberpunk crpg

Because 2077 just made me depressed

More then happy regarding mechanics

Lol

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

Yeah.

Probably would be better

[dusky scroll]

Yeah exactly... maybe your choices lead to different outcomes.

[dusk patrol]

Nah that’s girth where it becomes an issue

[opaque coyote]

Although I like 2077's gameplay more

Mechanics are lacking

[arctic talon]

I mean

[opaque coyote]

If that makes any sense

[dusk patrol]

And that’s where I’m ending this discussion

[arctic talon]

Ttrpg vs fps

Lmao

But yeah 2077 lacks depth

Of mechanics

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Heavily

[queen laurel]

a Lancer CRPG

[arctic talon]

God

I would do unspeakable tbings

For a lancer crpg

[dusk patrol]

People shit on Fallout and Elder Scrolls but

There’s a reason they lack competition

[shadow plover]

as they should

[dusk patrol]

Fucking, Outer Worlds was nothing

I actually kinda hated it

[opaque coyote]

I mean 2077 does have the opportunity to basically act like a coked up cyber psycho. You can do some crazy shit

But at the same time

[arctic talon]

Not in RP segments lol

[opaque coyote]

You could do even more

[arctic talon]

V is meant to have their head screwed on mostly straight

Emphasis on mostly

[opaque coyote]

Real.

Had gorilla arms on.

Had the option to punch a person.

Didn't immediately turn them into mush

Disappointing

[opaque coyote]

I'd argue that it's due to them being voiced.

Again silent dialogue is best

[arctic talon]

I mean

Even if they weren’t voiced

They could have been a little

More derranged

[shadow plover]

2077 also lacked enjoyable gameplay mechanics

[arctic talon]

Considering Johnny is literally a cyberpsycho

Lol

Like

[opaque coyote]

It's also why some Fallout 1, 2, 3, and NV dialogue had some

Deranged ass dialogue decisions

[arctic talon]

Not even a he might be

Johnny was

Literally insane

He talked to his arm

Said it was alive and made him do things

And he called it “the hand”

[queen laurel]

You either go derange fighter hacker or cool guy

[arctic talon]

Like Johnny was not a mentally well person lol

[shadow plover]

or stop playing a quarter through the game because you can't be bothered to launch the game anymore

[arctic talon]

He was genuinely a deranged terrorist

[dusky scroll]

Smell that air! Can't you just drink it like booze!

[queen laurel]

didn't he literally try to kill you first chance he

got

[arctic talon]

Yes

But that’s not that insane

Lol

[opaque coyote]

Tbf I think Soulkiller Johnny is explicitly different

Than actual Johnny

[arctic talon]

I mean

It’s close enough

But yes

Soul killed Johnnys memories are

extremely fucked up

On purpose

Ordering is off

Events are wrong

People show up when they shouldn’t, people don’t show up when they should

Ect

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it made me think that maybe they edited his memories a bit to make him more idealistic in-lore.

[arctic talon]

His hero complex is def on display lol

[opaque coyote]

Like Yorinobu did since he hates Arasaka

[arctic talon]

Considering he has shaiten go down at the start of the raid

[arctic talon]

Nah the events of the Arasaka tower in Johnnys engrams are wrong

Via word of god

[dusky scroll]

This is one thing I feel like I'm in the minority. They marketed it like it'd be a Bethesda killer. Turned out a solid "meh".

[arctic talon]

Outer wilds was

A game lol

[opaque coyote]

Yeah that's the edited part.

[arctic talon]

Not bad

[arctic talon]

Also Alt, and his rock concert

Those are all wrong

[dusk patrol]

It’s funny when you realize that he was a 2-bit player in other much more important people’s stories

[queen laurel]

yeah just mid and basic

[arctic talon]

The song played is incorrect

[dusk patrol]

Like his girlfriend, who he thinks got kidnapped cause him

[arctic talon]

Alt getting kidnapped didn’t happen like that

[dusk patrol]

When she was kidnapped cause all the insane shit she was developing

[arctic talon]

The people at Alts death were also different

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I definitely think that it wasn't just death complicating things.

I genuinely think that Johnny's memories were tampered with also

[arctic talon]

Yeah she got kidnapped because of soul killer 1.0 LOL

[dusk patrol]

Also the whole Araska tower thing

When he was just glorified muscle

[opaque coyote]

That died

Instantly

[arctic talon]

Well

He did save lives with that one

[opaque coyote]

Tbf Adam but still

[arctic talon]

He did also just die instantly

[dusky scroll]

When Necromunda Hired gun was revealed, I thought it was gonna be an FPS RPG like I was hoping for. Afaik it's not.

[arctic talon]

Yeah no

[dusk patrol]

He drew aggro for a bit

[opaque coyote]

I also find it funny that he saw Adam Smasher as like

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I tried but

It’s super generic

[opaque coyote]

A rival in his memories

[dusk patrol]

“Oh wow a dystopia where corpos rule everything, how fresh and new”

[arctic talon]

Adam literally didn’t even know him

[opaque coyote]

Like Memory Adam acted like he and Johnny had beef.

When in reality Adam probably forgot after like an hour

[dusk patrol]

And it’s art style was super eh too

[opaque coyote]

At most

[shadow plover]

I had zero expectations for Hiredgun because I knew the studio was all flare no substance with their earlier games too

[arctic talon]

It not even a creative take on it tbh

[dusk patrol]

Everything felt samey

[arctic talon]

also yeah hired gun I had 0 expectation

[opaque coyote]

Like Adam probably remembers fucking David more.

[arctic talon]

I got exactly what I wanted out of it

[opaque coyote]

Than Johnny

[dusk patrol]

Yeah it’s just generic dystopian sci fi

[opaque coyote]

At least David managed to put up a slight fight

Johnny just got gored instantly

[arctic talon]

Smasher’s list of people he hates is like

Literally just Morgan blackhand

Lol

[dusk patrol]

“Oh wow you have to pay for your air, haha get it cause it’s dystopian. Buckle up we’re gonna recycle this idea ten times.”

[opaque coyote]

Tbf it did have one entertaining concept.

Rented out graves

[arctic talon]

Well

[dusk patrol]

It has its moments

[arctic talon]

Those rare real

Lol

Rented graves are a real thing

[opaque coyote]

...

[dusk patrol]

Not even a bad idea tbh

[opaque coyote]

I fucking hate reality

[dusk patrol]

Being real

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

It’s not a terrible one

[dusk patrol]

It’s a dead body

It’s not like it really matters let’s be real

[shadow plover]

graves are a stupid idea to begin with

[dusk patrol]

It’s purely for posterity

[arctic talon]

Well calling them rented graves irl is wrong

Lol

It’s more of a

You purchase a plot for X time

[dusk patrol]

You do buy grave plots and stuff

[arctic talon]

And then your body gets cremated

And your family gets the cremated remains

[dusk patrol]

Grave sites are a huge waste of space tbh, I get their importance but

[dusky scroll]

Only interesting concept I found in Outer worlds was- Capitalism/corporate got so overpowered and influential in people's lives that it found a backdoor route to communism. One entity dictating your whole life.

[arctic talon]

Anyways that’s what happened to my great grandparents

Lol

My grandparents didn’t want to pay for the grave site anymore

So they uh

Dug them up and cremated them

[opaque coyote]

I mean that wouldn't make sense to me because like

Graves and funerals are for posterior's sake in the first place. They're a place to "rest".

Why rent out a space and then get cremated?

Just get cremated.

Or just get buried.

Why do all the trouble of doing a ritual just to ruin it like 5 years later

[dusk patrol]

Both my grandparents, except my grandma whose still alive, have been cremated. And we had a grave site put up nearby to commemorate them

[arctic talon]

Money

Oh also the columbarium in cyberpunk is really common irl as well

In East Asia

[dusk patrol]

Humans have a lot of very elaborate ways we’ve buried people always

[opaque coyote]

You mean where you pay to like

Commerate somebody?

[arctic talon]

Well sorta

[dusk patrol]

It’s not complex, people like to do stuff like thst

[arctic talon]

You put their ashes in an urn inside it

But yeah

Sorta

[dusk patrol]

Cultures have tons of different burial rites and shit

[opaque coyote]

Also as a side note

The side quest with the suicidal guy genuinely made me actually feel depressed for a bit.

[arctic talon]

Did you make him not kill himself

[dusk patrol]

That being said I really like the whole Belter thing in Expanse

Sending people into space

[opaque coyote]

Yeah dw I made his friends talk to him.

But I felt depressed because I genuinely related

[arctic talon]

Ye

Belter stuff is cool

[opaque coyote]

Like I genuinely related to his isolation, and him feeling like the turtle was his only friend really got to me

[arctic talon]

But yeah rented graves I was very whatever when it got brought up

Like oh those literally exist irl lol

[dusk patrol]

Jared Harris and David Strathairn are insanely good actors for making the Belter accent work so well

[dusky scroll]

Your grandma cremated alive?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

It would be so easy for it to suck

[opaque coyote]

Because when you're like severely mentally ill, you do genuinely feel like you're alone.

...

Anyways that's enough serious introspection

[arctic talon]

*except his grandma

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

[arctic talon]

Yeah…

[dusk patrol]

I still cope and pray for final Expanse seasons

[opaque coyote]

My favorite is Fantasy Coffins from Ghana.

Basically

Pay some money to make your coffin reflect your life/profession

Car Coffin

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I love those

[opaque coyote]

Coffin that looks like a Cat

[dusk patrol]

I always love the idea of professional mourners too

[shadow plover]

Wonder what the folks from Trench Crusade have in store for Adepticon, they ought to have something there as well. Or it might just be that they're present there with a booth, dunno

[arctic talon]

It’s a booth

Iirc

Oh about fictional setting coffins

[dusk patrol]

I have some friends who are there, might see if they’ll check it out

[shadow plover]

There's a booth for sure, but I was wondering if there's something to be revealed there as well

[dusky scroll]

Where I live, we bury without coffin. Just a white cloth wrapped.

[opaque coyote]

Fuck yeah, style points in the afterlife/oblivion/samsara cycle/????.

Also the concept of like

Somebody 250 years later accidentally digging into my grave site.

[arctic talon]

In league of legends I like the coffin’s bilgewater uses

[opaque coyote]

And seeing a coffin that looks like a gaming pc

RGB lighting still working after 300 years trust

[queen laurel]

oh hanging coffins

that's great

[dusk patrol]

That’s pretty cool

I always kinda liked the idea of just

Walking out into the wildness and dying once you get old some tribes used to do

[arctic talon]

Let me post what eats them

One moment

[dusk patrol]

It’s harsh but

Idk

[dusky scroll]

Seeing a coffin that looks like anime waifu with rubber boobs.

[arctic talon]

Sea scarabs are often the ones who crack open the coffins

[opaque coyote]

Seeing the sun/moon before you die does sound nice honestly

[queen laurel]

are they considered as pests or just natural scavengers

[arctic talon]

And yeah they do have creepy arms

[opaque coyote]

Unless if the future has it so that every city looks like India/China's smog covered sky then nvm

[arctic talon]

Natural scavengers, they’re decently smart

[dusk patrol]

Free loot boxes

[arctic talon]

The one part people don’t like is uh

The arms

They get really freaked out by the arms

[opaque coyote]

LET'S GO GAMBLING!

opens coffin

AH DANG IT!

[queen laurel]

So they aren't hunted for desecrating graves huh

[arctic talon]

They get called false drowned sometimes lol

Because uh

Their arms look like weird waterlogged flesh

And sometimes you see them on the surfsce

[opaque coyote]

Ah hell nah

Bro idk how people could handle like

People hanging near the streets

[dusk patrol]

They’re in the water

[opaque coyote]

Yeah ik

And the concept of like

Walking on the docks and then seeing a dead person's face

Would freak me the fuck out

[arctic talon]

Tbh it’s not a persons face

[dusk patrol]

The dark secret is, the value of human life we hold is a privilege

[arctic talon]

It just looks like a persons arms

[dusk patrol]

And not something that has been common through history

[opaque coyote]

That's even worse

[dusk patrol]

Also being so sheltered from death

It’s not a bad thing but

[opaque coyote]

And I hope to God it stays that way

[dusk patrol]

It will

Unless I have my way

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

Don’t worry though

[opaque coyote]

Emperor be lik-

[dusk patrol]

There won’t be any bodies

[dusky scroll]

Yet despite the name, HR departments are notoriously filled with assholes.

[opaque coyote]

Nah the name is correct

Human

Resources

[dusk patrol]

It do be that way

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

Tbh bilgewater also has actual horrifying creatures

Sea scarabs being around is good

Because it tells you there’s nothing horrifying around

"I made a new friend today, a mermaid! She wanted me to swim with her and offered to teach me! I'm sneaking out after supper to see her!" - Poe Buckler, current whereabouts unknown

[dusk patrol]

That’s why we don’t go to Bilgewater

[dusk patrol]

Tbf that kid was never gonna last long being that dumb

[opaque coyote]

How tf does that monster even know human language

[dusk patrol]

Evil magic

[dusky scroll]

at least the mouth is human.

[dusk patrol]

That’s not the mouth

[opaque coyote]

More importantly how does it work

[arctic talon]

It’s a demon

Prolly

Or it’s one of the evil intelligent fish

[opaque coyote]

Eh fuck it thinking too much about it

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah there’s evil intelligent fish

[queen laurel]

seriously for being the so-called land of the free it sure has the land of the free ways of getting killed

[arctic talon]

Who can perform necromancy

In bilgewater

No I am not joking

[queen laurel]

like bilge walter is one of the most dangerous places in runeterra

[arctic talon]

As in like

Normal ass fish

Well I guess they’re kind of big

But still

[queen laurel]

the sea creatures there are ******* horrifying

[opaque coyote]

Still has a human looking part to it.

All I gotta do is isolate that part, chain the rest, and it should all be good...

[dusk patrol]

Piltover meanwhile: See this is why Fascism is actually based

[opaque coyote]

[dusk patrol]

Now kiss the curb citizen

[opaque coyote]

||America||

[dusk patrol]

Although tbh Piltover is more jsut

Authoritarian

[queen laurel]

shit like this live in its oceans

[dusk patrol]

I’m doing the internet thing of authoritarianism = fascist

[queen laurel]

Oh no I didn't pay my taxes for the ocean looks like this giant fuck ass is just gonna kill me

[arctic talon]

Hail Kiramman

Or something idk

[dusk patrol]

Hey at least he’ll just kill you

[queen laurel]

Bilgewater is fucked

[arctic talon]

Should have paid the tithe

It’s just 1 silver serpent

You cheap bitch

Okay genuine question

[opaque coyote]

I don't really think it matters too much anyways.

The regime knows best(tm)

https://youtu.be/qgoGen5xG7Y?si=ZydT6atrD3CoLURJ

[dusk patrol]

I don’t care who the ocean sends

[arctic talon]

Why the fuck are the fish running a protection racket

[queen laurel]

Yeah but like if i accidentally forget it i'm already cooked

[dusk patrol]

I am not paying my taxes

[arctic talon]

Like

Wtf do they need the silver and gold for

[dusk patrol]

Fish food

[opaque coyote]

Shiny

[dusk patrol]

They like the high quality stuff

[arctic talon]

Lol

[dusk patrol]

I wanna know

Who figured out they’re running a racket

How did that get arranged

[queen laurel]

probably the sea dragonwanting it all

[opaque coyote]

Imagine one those mfs literally going up to Bilgewater

[queen laurel]

Greedy ass the sea dweller

[opaque coyote]

"Hey can I have some fish food"

[arctic talon]

It was just like

Tradition

And then it started actually having consequences

[opaque coyote]

Protection racket for the protection racket

[arctic talon]

When people stopped paying the oceans tithe

[opaque coyote]

You give dragon gold

It won't eat you

[arctic talon]

No clue how the tradition started

[opaque coyote]

Therefore you need get gold from humans

[arctic talon]

But the fish now want their coins lol

[dusk patrol]

Ah the classic “grandmas silly superstition is actually real and scary” trope

[arctic talon]

Either Nautalis smashes your ship

[opaque coyote]

Therefore start a protection racket

[arctic talon]

Or the fish get ya

[queen laurel]

is Bilgewater has something around it that causes that area of the ocean to be just that

[arctic talon]

Captain says kill fish, fish says kill captain. Makes sense to me

[queen laurel]

or are the entire oceans of runeterra fucked

[arctic talon]

No, it’s just like this

Lol

[opaque coyote]

Probably this honestly

[arctic talon]

Runeterras deep water oceans are fucked

Lol

The more shallower close to shore parts

Are fineish

But deepwater open ocean is horrifying

[opaque coyote]

"Can't have shit in Runeterra's oceans"

[dusk patrol]

Just like irl

[opaque coyote]

Except with fish mafias

...do fish fight each for gold

Is there a fish underworld?

[arctic talon]

No

[dusk patrol]

So do they say you’ll be sleeping with the fishes?

[arctic talon]

The evil necromancy fish

Have something called the swimming city

Unclear if the name is literal or not

But pyke talks about it a lot

And nautilus mentions it

Both of them got fished

[opaque coyote]

So basically...

Runeterra's deep water oceans are basically Detroit

Got it

[arctic talon]

Yeah sure

Let’s go with that

[queen laurel]

why the fuck is the ocean running the worst ecosystem grocery i have ever seen

You pay me silver I give you some fish that will still kill you and monsters that will eat you

because if you don't pay i will send a giant armoured monster to kill you

but if i don't like you i will send a guy that drowned to kill you

damn the ocean yakuza of bilgewater does not take shit

[opaque coyote]

Can't have shit in Runeterra's oceans

[arctic talon]

Tbf, the fish are prolly unhappy whenever they get stabbed

Or their friend gets harvested

[opaque coyote]

Well maybe they shouldn't have been so delicious

...

Actually that's probably the fish's response as well to humans

💀

[arctic talon]

We know jaull fish are one of the main fish species behind this

But jaull fish often don’t get killed

[dusk patrol]

So what’s Nautilus’s deal

[arctic talon]

They just get a lot of magical pouches harvested from their
Uh

Mouth

With a knife pm

[opaque coyote]

So kinda similar to how shark fin soup is made.

Fish up a shark

Cut their fins off

Throw them and watch them squirm while they bleed out and die because they got the equivalent of their legs taken away

[arctic talon]

Was part of a diving crew, one day when he went out deep ocean diving the captain refused to pay the tithe, they eventually came across some creepy black muck

Nautilus was told to dive in

As it was his job, so he did that

He brought up some gold initially, slick with the black sludge

He was sent down again and again and again

[opaque coyote]

So basically

He realized the Fish had better pay

[dusk patrol]

And then nothing bad happened?

[arctic talon]

Until eventually the chain snapped

And then nautilus fell asleep

When he woke up again he was in a strange city, surrounded by darkness

He felt as if he was made of it, and he was full of hatred towards the captain, the captain who refused to pay the tithe

Now he strikes down anyone who doesn’t pay the tithe

And by strike down I mean he destroys their ship

[opaque coyote]

So basically

Splashes out of the water

"I HAVE ORGANIZED A UNION."

"AND IT'S CALLED PAY ME OR GET FUCKED."

[dusk patrol]

Cool

[arctic talon]

He also accepts payments

Before he destroys your ship btw lol

If the anchor gets launched

Up

But you toss the tithe

He stops

Tldr nautilus hates greedy people

[queen laurel]

can i pay him after he destroys my ship and almost kills me

[arctic talon]

Yes

Then he doesn’t kill you

I mean you’ll still prolly die

But you know

[queen laurel]

Man gangplank must be his number one op

[arctic talon]

Gangplank pays the tithe

[queen laurel]

I thought he was Dumber but hey he's not that dumb

[dusk patrol]

Is the Tithe even that much?

[queen laurel]

just 1 silver serpent

[arctic talon]

No

It’s cheap as shit

[queen laurel]

Which is 1 silver coin

[dusk patrol]

So it’s literally just a

[arctic talon]

Pretty much any sailor can afford it

[dusk patrol]

Fuck you I’m not paying taxes moment?

[arctic talon]

Yes

Hell, if the entire crew refuses to pay the tithe

Like not one person

I mean…..

[queen laurel]

yeah but the tax collector is a giant warship sized living armour

[arctic talon]

If it happens, it happens at the that lol

[queen laurel]

that uses a literal anchor as a weapon

[arctic talon]

It’s 1 silver serpent or 1 gold kraken. Depending on what in universe version of the tradition you follow

But like

[queen laurel]

are those the only two things that work

can i throw like valuable gemstones or something

when i have nothing else

[dusky scroll]

Are Votann Squats abhuman? Or they are just another group of Xenos?

[arctic talon]

Those also work

[arctic talon]

They’re abhumans, but they consider themselves xenos

[shadow plover]

Abhuman but very far removed

[dusk patrol]

They’re abhuman but

Yeah

Tbf they don’t even fuck

[dusky scroll]

thanks.

[dusk patrol]

Or reproduce

[dusky scroll]

huh?

[dusk patrol]

The Votann make them all

[dusky scroll]

cloning?

[dusk patrol]

They’re all clone skeins

Made for a purpose

[queen laurel]

yeah they're just like goliath

[dusky scroll]

What about the ones living in Necromunda?

[dusk patrol]

They’re a different offshoot

[queen laurel]

Abhumans but don't fit on the category

[arctic talon]

Call themselves abhumans

[dusk patrol]

We assume they have sex

[arctic talon]

They prolly do

They have juves

[queen laurel]

they're actually normal squats

Kin

are actually clones

[arctic talon]

They gotta be having kids lol

[dusk patrol]

The difference is they go up on eachother

Instead of down

[dusky scroll]

So they don't have ties with Votann?

[dusk patrol]

They probably did but

[queen laurel]

Dwarves basically separate into two groups

The ones that lived in real space and the ones that was in the galactic core becoming the Votan

they used to be the same ancestors but they diverged in life

[dusk patrol]

They helped rebuild Necromunda after the heresy

And have been there since

Mining deeper

And deeper

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-balrog-mines-of-moria-scary-gif-3416890

Soon….

I mean why not?

Wouldnt put it past Munda

[arctic talon]

The most widespread currency in runeterra is the Noxian Securi, and those are confirmed to work

I’d assume as long as the fish identify it as something of value it works

[queen laurel]

Of course the noxian currency is the most well spread

[arctic talon]

I mean

Expansionist empire

[queen laurel]

OK like say theoretically they conquer like the whole of runterra

what the hell are they gonna do after that anyway

[arctic talon]

Uh

Don’t worry about it

Jokes aside try to seal the void off for good

And kill mordekaiser

[queen laurel]

then they just manage the supercontinent they just got for themselves i guess

[celest dome]

Though more likely scally serpent like, if it's the Delague things

[arctic talon]

Piltover and zaun’s currency is goofy

Golden hexes, silver cogs, bronze washers

It’s also the second most common currency because they’re a major port city

[queen laurel]

say wolf

is the elder dragon the most powerful dragon in runeterra

[arctic talon]

Uh

No

It is really strong though

[queen laurel]

good enough

[arctic talon]

Like

It’s prolly the strongest terrestrial dragon alive

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's literally a champion in legends of runeterra

[arctic talon]

But it’s not the strongest dragon on runeterra

Not when uh

https://tenor.com/view/aurelion-aurelion-sol-star-league-of-legends-gif-24863374

[queen laurel]

i was meaning around that sense of native to the world of runterra

like yeah asol basically no difs everyone

[arctic talon]

Well

Then yeah

I can’t use any of the wwird

Targon dragons

That might not be from runeterra

Then yeah elder dragon wins

[queen laurel]

But if we're going by the universe then yeah you ain't beating a sol

the guy forges literal stars and crushes them on his hand

[raven stone]

Found on FB

[rocky gale]

In light of the old world reveals

[vagrant fox]

The world eater lads are have a meltdown

[rocky gale]

Yea

“Year of chaos”

One new model each

500 new space marines

[raven stone]

Cathay is the only truly exciting thing coming out from that reveal

Everything else is just so…lacklustre

Baby carriage spam

Marine spam

One new model per remaining cult legion

Nids VS AdMech kill team is…eh.

[queen laurel]

Kill team was pretty good

[rocky gale]

New ravenors is fun

[queen laurel]

Aos was on the short end of things but it's you know

Better than nothing

[rocky gale]

New cities spearhead is weird

[queen laurel]

And more respectful than whatever the hell grey nights got

[rocky gale]

All ranged

[queen laurel]

Isn't city like very defensive

So what's weird about it

[raven stone]

I mean, admittedly, yes and no.
The Ravenors are definitely nice, so is Nid terrain
But I can’t imagine Ad Mech servitors doing THAT much

[rocky gale]

Yea but like I don’t see it doing well at all

[queen laurel]

I will trust the judgment of the person that plays then

[rocky gale]

Our fusiliers are basically just weaker archers and they’re our only real frontline

I guess the wildercorp are the real frontline

[queen laurel]

Admech are pretty creative with servitors

They can do a lot

[raven stone]

Well I will wait for the datacard(s) to see what they do for big 40k

[shadow plover]

I actually really like seeing new servitor models, been ages since the last ones we got

[queen laurel]

Yeah they are usually just background props for stories

I'm glad they got something

[shadow plover]

I recon they work fine in the game too, the priest probably has some buffs for them that increase the capabilities of the servitors exponentially

probably a pretty fun team to play

[raven stone]

Just waiting on the Cathay/Border Princes lists to see if I can actually do a Cathay/Bretonnia hybrid army.
(Willing to accept Cathay/Empire as a substitute)
Unlikely, but one can hope.

[rocky gale]

Like unless our battletome changes things around I don’t see the spearhead doing that great

And I may be wrong but I thought the Alchemite warforger only buffs melee units, so odd to have him in a ranged list

[rose thorn]

He buffs armor

He’s at least a wizard

[raven stone]

Throne damn it.
Anxiety about a relatively minor thing in the grand scheme of life is winding me up.

[late osprey]

most world conquerors in history never thought this far ahead

[remote widget]

many HH books say full and unabridged, I think that an abridged version would not go amiss though

[late osprey]

in fact one COULD argue one of the strongest reasons Rome fell was because it reached a limit to how much it could conquer

[raven stone]

I would imagine there would be some meme abridged version as a YouTube video somewhere

[rose thorn]

there’s like, 3 grey knight profiles that don’t have models

And we got

An upgrade sprue for one model

[queen laurel]

Get upgraded bozo

[raven stone]

Also I forsee another massive Ebay niche market

Selling all the Cathay miniature heads

For people who want a more Asian look to their GW minis

[raven stone]

Grey Knights and Deathwatch are the only Marines untouched by "Primarism" for now

For stubborn old stylists like myself, there is comfort in that.

[remote widget]

I didn't ask for a meme, I asked for an abridged version. When you read the abridged les miserables or moby dick, it's not just a picture of a loaf of bread titled "4 teh l0Lzzz" or a picture of a White whale going "call me Skibidi-mael"

[raven stone]

Woah woah woah chill

But anyways, yes, a proper abridged version exists somewhere

On the internet

[remote widget]

I spent way too long coming up with skibidi-mael for you to think it came from anger

[raven stone]

Ah sorry tagged the wrong mental voice for it 😅

[spare osprey]

Yeah that’s probably right

[rocky gale]

I must be remembering last edition, I thought he buffed melee weapons

[queen laurel]

nah that's what they do

extra saves because of the armour enhancements

[rocky gale]

Huh

[queen laurel]

i'm suprised they don't have a debuff ability

[queen laurel]

also the same in the app

[scenic bolt]

yea last ed I think alchemite could apply mortals on crit (for everything) to a unit, later got rewritten into applying only to melee attacks (to stop the dominant use of buffing large blocks of fusiliers)

[rose thorn]

It was a spell that everyone used

[rose thorn]

I can’t even make jokes, a space marine vs space marine vs space marine vs space marine vs space marine event on a planet that is well known for ork vs guard

[queen laurel]

eh you get used to it

marines are the money makers

[late osprey]

in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, space marines still pay for everyone's bills

[winged dock]

Given everything they've been through how strong are the Rejects?

[dusk patrol]

Competent inquisition Killteam

[storm jungle]

I had like 4 friends message me in the morning saying "no Steel Legion reveals rip"

[rose thorn]

at least karanak lives

i might pic him up idk

[storm jungle]

my jokes of him being taken to the back of the brass shed were too early

[rose thorn]

they siad the demon index thing was a litearl mistake

which is really funny

and then said they are adding him to the we codex

i need to motivate my self to study

[storm jungle]

🫡

[rose thorn]

also is nayone actually excited for a melee character for world eaters?

if the greykngihts even got a brother champion

i would have siad it was the worst 40k release

[storm jungle]

I guess for tabletop yes?

otherwise like its basically just an 8-Bound

[queen laurel]

nah khorne doesn't have a gun so he didn't shoot

[storm jungle]

i think the KT reveal was pretty neat, every other 40k release was mid

the dreadknight was dreadful but thats nothing new

[rocky gale]

Yea

Except the death guard guy

[rose thorn]

the killteam reveal was the best t

[storm jungle]

Oh right yeah

the chaos models i liked

[rose thorn]

yeah but he was already revealed \

[rocky gale]

But we saw him before

Yea

[storm jungle]

guh

[shadow plover]

SW kits were pretty nice, and that's coming from someone who despises the wolves

[rose thorn]

oh yeah army boxes

[rocky gale]

I do not like the new ksons robots

[queen laurel]

they somehow look more egyptian than the egyptian robots that is the necrons

[storm jungle]

Poxpoxpoxpoxpox

[storm jungle]

its the paint job

the models are cool, the paint style just looks like shit

[rose thorn]

the same combat patrol, agian lmao

[storm jungle]

the fact that nobody could tell that dreadknight is a new mini killed me

i was in a VC and people were wheezing

[rose thorn]

its the same thing except we dont have a librarian

so, we jsut lost another model

[shadow plover]

That's not the combat patrol though

[rose thorn]

oh

my baddd

okay well

[rocky gale]

They look so out of place next to the rest of them

[storm jungle]

Lmaooo

[rose thorn]

let me check store

[storm jungle]

scarab occults lost weight

😭

[shadow plover]

They on ozempic

[storm jungle]

💀

awful

also who the fuck was in here saying these are 30k models?

[queen laurel]

how do these things that are supposedly big machines that by the look of it seems to be able to power or match a Terminator

look skinnier than an unfed child

[storm jungle]

because big robot

and bad modelling

idk

[rose thorn]

NO WAYYYY HOW DID I NEVER NOTICE THIS

[late osprey]

wtf

[rose thorn]

WE USE A FW KIT??

[late osprey]

those are not 40k units

surely

thats some battlettech shit

[queen laurel]

We got necrons at home

[rose thorn]

I thought they looked weird, but they are slowly warming upt o me

wish they wer enay othe rcolor

[late osprey]

well the fun thing about color is that can change

[storm jungle]

i agree the robots legit look like Forgeworld models

[late osprey]

the models themselves however, wtf

[storm jungle]

its 100% the shitty paintjob

[queen laurel]

Sekhetar Robots my guy

[late osprey]

OH

[rose thorn]

i hate the back is generic robot

[shadow plover]

Bony colour doesn't really work but I can tell they'd look very nice with a more fitting scheme

[crisp heath]

They look like there from a completely different setting

[late osprey]

i didnt pay attention i thought these were actually like

new terminators or something

[storm jungle]

doused in coom instead of jizzy blue/yellow

[late osprey]

as robots they're not that bad

[queen laurel]

Yeah the amount of times a good paint job can save models

is

funny

[crisp heath]

I could see this in like some indie War game like malifaux

[late osprey]

what it looks like is like

[queen laurel]

i'm gonna kill you in the most violent way i know

[late osprey]

they bought the robot from 40k Home Depot and then put their custom skin on it

like with the back being so different

[rose thorn]

THEY LOOK LIEK COD SKINS

[dusk patrol]

They’re not melee focused, they’re weapons platforms

[rose thorn]

LEGIT LOOK LIKE SKINS FOR WARZONE

[storm jungle]

what does

the robots?

[rose thorn]

yeah

[storm jungle]

the Sikhsekhtor robots?

[queen laurel]

wait so the Blue Birds get the cool robots what a surprise

[storm jungle]

oh lol

honestly id say no but having seen recent warzone skins...

[queen laurel]

Sekhetar Robots how did you spell it like you drank acid

[storm jungle]

🫵

[queen laurel]

bro do not even remind me

[rose thorn]

overly detailed with no color variety lmao

[shadow plover]

Titanussy

[queen laurel]

he's into that too huh

welp

updating the notes

[shadow plover]

What do you meaaan

It just says that on the tin

[crisp heath]

I have the master splinter warzone skin

[dusk patrol]

Pretty easy to fix with a new paint job, same with the Ravenors

[queen laurel]

honestly when it comes to minis i take in sculpting detail and modelling when I'm looking at it from an official GW painted product

[dusk patrol]

It’s nice to have a good presentation and it’s not the worst but it’s not how I’d do it

[queen laurel]

Like I get it paint is important on making a gw mini look good but these things arrive to customers unassembled and not painted

[dusk patrol]

Or how I expect to see it

[queen laurel]

so may as well look at it from a textural standpoint

[dusk patrol]

More color coordination with the metal parts and shell would look better

[crisp heath]

For gw standards I'm a bit shocked by that

[dusk patrol]

It’s not a bad paint job it’s just not what I think you should do with it

[crisp heath]

It looks like its a one pose kit

[dusk patrol]

I wouldn’t contrast the metal with the shell

Same as the Ravenors, I don’t care for the parts they contrast and probably would like them more with a different hive fleet look

[crisp heath]

New ravenors?

[dusk patrol]

The killteam release

Ad mech Servitors vs Ravenors

[crisp heath]

I'm not sure how I feel about these

[queen laurel]

i'm quite suprised and Glad they went with Raveners

[crisp heath]

They have more detail which is nice

[queen laurel]

i would have fully expected lictors

[dusk patrol]

It’s amusing how the first Nid Killteam is one of the smallest and most elite

[crisp heath]

Lictors would have been nicer

[dusk patrol]

Only five units

I disagree, especially with the tunneling aspect

Also, as much as it’s a meme

Lictors don’t team up

[crisp heath]

Whats the other type called

[queen laurel]

it's gonna be boring

[dusk patrol]

Von Ryan’s Leaper

[crisp heath]

Deathleapers

[queen laurel]

That's a character

[crisp heath]

They hunt In packs

[storm jungle]

It could have been essentially any tyranid so thats fine imo

considering all these raveners are just madeup for this KT

so thats nothing too shocking

[dusk patrol]

Anyways, the idea is cool. The tunnel aspect is gonna be interesting

[storm jungle]

tunnel deez nuts

anyway i wish it was like commando gaunts or something

[dusk patrol]

I’m gonna tunnel your ass with my foot

[storm jungle]

🤚

no

[crisp heath]

Ah not deathleaper then

[storm jungle]

Yeah just Raveners

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-movie-punt-kick-donewiththis-gif-26537188

[storm jungle]

they prob wanted to do something underground to begin with

so a GW guy was like

"What nid unit does underground stuff?"

🧠

[queen laurel]

Honestly it also does an amazing job on showing how flexible tyranid bio templates are

[dusk patrol]

They probably had the idea of going inverted with the concept and doing a smaller elite team to contrast with what Nids typically are

[queen laurel]

It's literally five types of Raveners

Doing their own different thing

It really explains how the hive mind is just that based

[dusk patrol]

Curious how the Ad Mech guys will play

[storm jungle]

Considering any form of tyranid can be made from anything it checks out

realistically hivefleets would have like tons of unseen bioforms for specific things but tabletop game so

[dusk patrol]

Lots of Iron Hand head bits there…

[storm jungle]

I said that yesterday

you fucking hack

also bruh i missed the medic servitor

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/karlee-gif-22864060

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-gif-14396239095188633828

[crisp heath]

I do remember specifically reading somewhere about a pack of lictors tho thats why I thought it was the deathleaper

[dusk patrol]

It’s way to expensive but they’d be fun to make a Medusan Auxilia with

Maybe small scale

[queen laurel]

i will say these are like the highest quality Servitors i have seen

they look like they are designed to be better because of their way their jobs are

[dusk patrol]

They got some character

[storm jungle]

Its also mostly because the only servitor model we had is like over 10 years old lol

playdough ahhh

[dusk patrol]

I like the guy just holding his toolkit

Bob the Servitor lookin ass

[sacred bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OqoRxXUjGA

[queen laurel]

this guy right here plays solo damnation thunder hammer zealot

[dusk patrol]

Technomedic Servitor is, such a funny title

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/metallic-ride-the-lightening-gif-12350063

I wonder if he’s programmed with puns after blasting the enemy

[rose thorn]

hey @arctic talon do you have that chaos knight leak?

[dusk patrol]

“You may find this….shocking.”

[rose thorn]

these dont even look like admech models tbh lmao

i guess they are just, random servators

[dusk patrol]

Mag

You’ll never believe this

But that’s what the Ad Mech uses

A lot

[rose thorn]

i know

[dusk patrol]

That’s, kinda their thing

[rose thorn]

but my rbain is just rotted by seeing it in other armies

[dusk patrol]

Your brain was rotted long before then

[rose thorn]

lmao

[remote widget]

Wud yooz radder be kunningly brootal, or brootally kunningz?

[dusk patrol]

I’d rather you suck start a sh- I mean uh fuck idk

[remote widget]

Kinky

[rose thorn]

OH SHIT IMPIERALIS KNGIHTS

[remote widget]

[shadow plover]

fat fucks have landed

[queen laurel]

oh they actually updated the acastus

i like that one more

much less

Tank looking

[shadow plover]

it's a separate thing

[queen laurel]

I prefer the look of the one on the left though

[shadow plover]

the one I linked is the Asterius and the taller one is Porphyrion

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/scott-steiner-fat-ugly-wwe-insult-gif-9041546

[crisp heath]

Im looking forward to the chaos knights

[dusk patrol]

(I do not think they’re ugly I just like using Steiner gifs)

[remote widget]

If they're all plastic and same scale, I'm gonna get them in 40k

[shadow plover]

I love me some Acastus knights

it's imperialis

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/numbers-dont-lie-disaster-spell-gif-25561954

[queen laurel]

are these imperial knight chassis still around

in modern 40K

[dusk patrol]

Yeah just rare generally

[shadow plover]

they've got 40k rules so I recon so

[dusk patrol]

Same deal as a lot of the heresy relic vehicles

Not a common sight

[shadow plover]

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if someone knows how to extract gifs from twitter posts please do so

[remote widget]

Wrong grp

[shadow plover]

Many thanks

[spring cairn]

the cathay stuff looks clean

[shadow plover]

it doesn't loop as well as on twitter 😔

[queen laurel]

Yeah it was just like go to Google search up twiiter gif extractor and then do that

[shadow plover]

those I know of, but was hoping for something better

[queen laurel]

yeah it's the only one i got

and bro to be honest probably the least path of resistance

[rose thorn]

IM SO GGLADD

hey does anyoen here acutally play/know hwo armies work in hours heresy

[dusk patrol]

Possibly

[rose thorn]

is there knight armies in horus heresy

adn do they use the same patterns as the 40k game?

[dusk patrol]

Yes, kinda

They use at least most of the 40k ones and some

[rose thorn]

i know the uh, psyker chaos knight inst in hh

oh they are in the admech books

[dusk patrol]

I don’t know a ton about heresy knights so idk the specifics

[rose thorn]

40k has rules for all of the hh knights, i just checked teh store page and yeah hh has the 40k kngihts

[raven stone]

Army list construction is far, far more modular. Every piece of wargear that is not standard load out has a points cost.

You have to use and obey a Force Organization chart. One HQ and two Troop choices are compulsory, standard.

Solar Auxilia and Marines have access to things called "Rites of War" that shift things around for listbuilding.

Taking allies is always an option unless explicitly forbidden, but alliance politics is also more complex.

You always have to declare Traitor/Loyalist allegiance. Same allegiance infighting each other counts as a win for the opposite instead.

Just the key differences off the top of my head

Oh and vehicles still run by the Armour Value system

[rose thorn]

uhg i need to make a knight house

[meager zinc]

Ugh im still kinda salty about primaris marines

[dapper gyro]

What's about it this time?

[meager zinc]

Are my complaints going to be anything new?

[rose thorn]

its more of the same fucking models, i didnt even realize the grey hunters and wolf hunters and claw hunters were differnet kits

[meager zinc]

It bothers me that chaos space marine are all shortstacks now when they fight primarises on the battlefield

[raven stone]

Yea another reason I dislike Primaris scaling up

[hallow saddle]

nah theyre not bad at all

i play chaos

it looks fine

[late osprey]

specifically that was my issue but yeah practically speaking they scaled up chaos

so they're the same height as primaris

[hallow saddle]

yeah

[late osprey]

dont ask me how its supposed to work in lore at all or whatever

[hallow saddle]

theyre a bit smaller

but it looks fine

[raven stone]

“The warp did it” lol

[late osprey]

frankly im just waiting for them to update chaos so they also have primaris or whatever

[meager zinc]

Im talking lorewise, but the fact they had to scale up the models sounds like a huge cope

[hallow saddle]

its proportions as well as scale

[late osprey]

its inevitable that chaos primaris will be a thing

and then balance will be restored

[hallow saddle]

like before they looked like mario

theyre better proportioned in general

[meager zinc]

Which is currently lore accurate

[hallow saddle]

no, i mean proportions

they dont have short ass legs in lore lol

[meager zinc]

Well they do now in comparison

[hallow saddle]

nah, they don't

[late osprey]

no his point is that 40k is moving to a more realistic scale

while before it was hero scale

comically large guns, heads, etc etc

[hallow saddle]

yeah exactly

[meager zinc]

Nobody noticed until they primarises came around thats the problem lolll

"bro are our legs that stubby??"

[late osprey]

well primaris was their first model line that went real scale

so ofc everything else is gonna look wonky by comparison

part of why they updated everything else (more or less) at the same time

[hallow saddle]

its not that nobody noticed, its that they went for different proportions deliberately

it was a deliberate change along with making them bigger

[meager zinc]

I just wish primaris was just a new set of armor and technology, not a new super saijin level of space marine

[late osprey]

personally i wish they didnt say primaris were taller

so then they could both be the same height

and all would be well

[meager zinc]

Primaris are taller, stronger AND faster AND have MORE STABLE gene seed

[late osprey]

i dont really mind the rest of it

the height thing is purely just because of the aesthetics vs chaos

which is muted on the tabletop like panto says

and everywhere else

primaris regularly job to normal marines all the time anyway

[meager zinc]

I just hate it cuz, lore wise, primaris literally cannot use any older equipment cuz its too small for them

[hallow saddle]

thats made up lore lol

[late osprey]

i wish the repulsor wasnt, well, a repulsing vehicle

i wish it had treads like everything else in the imperium

but whatever, they have land speeders so i guess it kinda makes sense

[hallow saddle]

i dont mind the floaty vehicles

but i like it when ppl convert them to have tracks

they always look cool

[late osprey]

its not the end of the world

i do think tracks fit the imperial aesthetic better

BUT if anything were to have more floaty vehicles, i guess it should be space marines

[glossy sonnet]

i think the floaty vehicles look funny

[meager zinc]

Dude, the imperium had to big up EVERYTHING for primarises. You think rhinos could fit 10 primarises? Nah EVERY rhino in the galaxy had to be embiggened to fit 10 primarises

Cawl didn't even think this thru

[late osprey]

did that really happen?

[hallow saddle]

no it didnt

source: its made up

[glossy sonnet]

I dont see why primaris is such a big deal

[meager zinc]

It really happened bro i talked to guilliman himself, he said it was a pain.

[glossy sonnet]

You still have firstborns

[hallow saddle]

imagine being mad about primaris going on 10 years later

[glossy sonnet]

Things get improved and evolve over time

[meager zinc]

Jesus has it really been 10 years? I only come into 40k fandom once in a while tbh.

[storm jungle]

People hate change.

Primaris were also treated as the "next big, better thing"

[raven stone]

No, actually, dude has a point. I do recall Primaris lore stating Primaris are physically larger than Firstborns.

[storm jungle]

along with many aesthetic changes etc

[glossy sonnet]

I mean yeah, they are

[hallow saddle]

they are, yes

[storm jungle]

I mean they dont need to be though

[glossy sonnet]

I guess for someone like me who is a newer fan its not really a big deal

[meager zinc]

But they have the rubicon surgery so it all evens out

[hallow plover]

They are litterally bigger and better than firstborn tho

[glossy sonnet]

It was probably a weird thing to adapt to for older fans

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats what im saying

lmao

[late osprey]

rejects are the next big, better thing than normal killteams

[storm jungle]

I very much get why people dislike primaris, its not that weird of a thing imo.

i dont care as muc habout it

[hallow plover]

I only hate their drip

[raven stone]

My dislike is more from how ham fisted GW introduced them