40k-lore-chat

[dusk patrol]

And so they float

[arctic talon]

Good Feng Shui

[late osprey]

and they can come up with whatever explanation crap they want, it still feels out of place

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-the-rock-macys-thanksgiving-day-parade-float-hello-gif-19342981

[spring cairn]

it's because they've been deisgned post mortem

[dusk patrol]

Rock Float

[spring cairn]

after the death of wfb

[late osprey]

yeah

its sad

[plush mason]

they had like none of the lore they have now pre end times afaik

[spring cairn]

i don't mind cathay i think it fits

[arctic talon]

They had some of it

[spring cairn]

but i just think there's too many magical monsters in kislev

[arctic talon]

the dragon sibling stuff and wall

were already a thing

[plush mason]

yeah

[arctic talon]

and then they all got their asses beaten by chorfs and rats

[spring cairn]

also too many bears

[arctic talon]

and then Orcs

[plush mason]

iirc only the red tsar rode a bear pre TWWH

[celest dome]

Wasn't it only him that had a White Bear ?

[plush mason]

but they changed his death like 2x as well so GW never really settled on things with Kislev it seems

[plush mason]

yeah he was the one that brought worship of the bear god back

[spring cairn]

also whoever at CA decided kossars should have no sleeves i hate you

and if it's gw thing i hate you even more

[plush mason]

its a GW thing

[spring cairn]

yeah but here

there's 2 of them without sleeves

not every single one

[plush mason]

yeah that was likely CA not wanting to have a lot of multiple models

they do that in every TW game

[spring cairn]

oh they have a few different models alright

all units do

they just don't have sleeves

[plush mason]

ether every model in a unit is a carbon copy clone or they have minor variations

[spring cairn]

even the armoured kossars

don't have sleeves

[plush mason]

yup

[lofty mason]

Are Space Marine chapter all deployed in mostly one location or are they spread throughout the Imperium? I can't image the strain on Astartes logistics, since they are already spread thinly though out the Imperium.
||In SM2, Ultramarines are in those three planets, and it's implied that there are other Ultramarines elsewhere as well.||

[celest dome]

Spread around

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marines

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-taco-smile-gif-15840669

[lofty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/wind-taco-ant-man-scott-lang-paul-rudd-gif-14705759

[storm jungle]

Jokes aside pretty short read

should have most of your answers there

Marines more or less operate like mercenary monks, either having stationary homeworlds they settle/operate from or just travelling around in fleets picking any assignments they want or accepting aid-requests from imperial forces

[late osprey]

it also depends on doctrine

some space marine chapters all go as a single unit, but assumedly this gives you the reputation of being a total asshole and That Guy in the imperium because it's fairly rare

much more common to be split up as space merc monks

in chapter master simulator there was always a chance any fleet would be lost in the warp so it'd be an automatic game-over if your entire chapter was together, so maybe that clues into a reason as to why it's rare

[sacred bluff]

but i thought they all have orders

[crystal forum]

you will not convince me rhetoric

[storm jungle]

I mean they do but as ever it depends.

Some will obey, some wont, some just do what they want

most Imperial forces cant really force Astartes to do what they want

[crystal forum]

what if i call them daddy

[storm jungle]

[sacred bluff]

SOME DON'T OBEY????

HERESY

[storm jungle]

[dapper gyro]

Obey what? Obey who?

Most of the time, it is a request, not an order.

[rocky gale]

Yea different Command structures

Like a Naval Captain is a higher rank than an Army Sgt and sure it might be a good idea for the Army Sgt to do what the Navy Captain asks, but they're in separate Command Structures and the Sgt isn't obligated to follow any orders given by the Captain.

[late osprey]

problem is essentially the Emperor never TOLD the space marines to listen to humans

[sacred bluff]

OH

[late osprey]

the standing orders essentially allow the space marines to do what they want

since they were of greater power, for the most part, when the Emperor was still alive

[sacred bluff]

I thought yall meant they dont take orders from big e always

[late osprey]

no this is in the current setting when the emperor is stuck in his chair

although i guess with roboute in charge there really isnt an excuse for them to not listen now

[vagrant fox]

Rob isn't my daddy, he can't tell me what to do

[late osprey]

probably more that rob can't be everywhere at once

[iron sun]

The entire premise of horses heresy started with space marines being very uncomfortable with being bossed around by regular people.

[storm jungle]

Not really.

It was just an excuse

among like, many others

like "Emperor bad"

[sacred bluff]

I missed that part entirely

[iron sun]

It was just an excuse after Horus got stabbed but that really was the rank and file problem with things.

[crystal forum]

wouldn't erebus have not had the green light to fuck with horus if lorgar didn't get his shit pushed in by E

[iron sun]

Eh he would have found a way

[storm jungle]

Yeah its not really the "main" reason by any means.

the "astartes should not be bossed around by mortals" thing gets brought up like a few times and thats it.

[sacred bluff]

Was the lorgar shit before horus?

[storm jungle]

Yeah it was

[crystal forum]

yes

[storm jungle]

hes the first heretic

insert book here

[crystal forum]

it's great crusade lore

[sacred bluff]

How far down until i get to that book

It would be nice to see him scolded by dad

[crystal forum]

too far

[iron sun]

It's one of the first.

[storm jungle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Horus_Heresy_Series

[iron sun]

Oh wow ok it's the 14th

It felt sooner cause there's so many after

[sacred bluff]

That's the last one I have on paperback actually

These things cost MONEY

[spare osprey]

“I’m being bossed around by mortals” well no shit out of the 18 of you only g man can almost run a government

[late osprey]

the sentiment WAS there im pretty sure but for the most part the rebellion was hardly rational yeah

[iron sun]

They cost money 😂

[sacred bluff]

Dorn can run a government

[late osprey]

in an almost luciferian sense it read almost like a kind of jealousy

[sacred bluff]

So can Leman

[late osprey]

"you're giving the imperium to THEM?"

[spare osprey]

Leman can run a fuckin pack of wolves and Vikings

[iron sun]

Leman Russ couldn't run a kennel

[spare osprey]

I wouldn’t give him too much credit

[storm jungle]

Wow

an empire built on racism ends up being racist towards itself?

tell me it aint so

[iron sun]

Who all ran a half way decent planet? Gorillaman is obviously number one. Magnus (surprisingly) did a good job. Dorn, another obvious one.

[spare osprey]

WHY DID THEY KILL IGNACE KARKASY WHYYYYYYY

[storm jungle]

LOL

[spare osprey]

Literally the only 40k character to make me upset at their death

I fucking loved that guy

[iron sun]

I feel like he died during one of the stronger parts of the series

[arctic talon]

Guilliman, Magnus, Dorn, Fulgrim

[iron sun]

There's so many filler books afterwards.

You know Fulgrim DID rule pretty good

[crystal forum]

medusa isn't badly run

it's just a shitty planet

[arctic talon]

Medusa isn’t run at all

I’m ngl

It’s impossible to run it

[spare osprey]

wtf is there to run

[arctic talon]

Yeah

It’s a total fucking shithole lol

[crystal forum]

and yet they defeated more chaos incursions than any of the fancy pants chapters

[arctic talon]

You know it’s bad when marines don’t want to be outside at night sometimes

In some parts of the planet

[storm jungle]

Fenris has the 1st place

[spare osprey]

I mean defending an area doesn’t say much about their management

[storm jungle]

it got attacked like 4-5 times lol

[arctic talon]

Fenris is like

Attacked so much

[storm jungle]

3 times by magnus

[arctic talon]

They’ve only lost once lol

[storm jungle]

which is hilarious

[arctic talon]

Magnus fucking beat their ass

[crystal forum]

can we all agree that baal should have died

[arctic talon]

In warzone fenris

[late osprey]

most of the space marines' favorite homeworlds are total shitholes

because they have a crazy Dune-esque theory on what makes a good soldier

[spare osprey]

Idk if Baal should’ve died

[iron sun]

Baal did get turbo slammed

[arctic talon]

Which Baal

[spare osprey]

I feel like DA have the homeless angels on lock

[arctic talon]

One of the Baals did die

[crystal forum]

the blood angels one

[late osprey]

"the worse the place, the stronger the warriors"

[arctic talon]

Yes

There’s 3

BA recruit from all 3

[crystal forum]

that's stupid

[spare osprey]

Three Baal’s

[arctic talon]

How

It’s one planet

2 fat fuck moons

[spare osprey]

How do they manage so many

[iron sun]

When they say they'll bring you back to their homeworld but when you get there it's just The Rock floating in space

[spare osprey]

I can barely handle 2

[late osprey]

they're called the Emperor's Jugglers for a reason

[crystal forum]

i'd probably fail at managing one planet tbh

[arctic talon]

“Bro where the fuck is caliban”
-DA primaris when being told they’re going to their fortress monastery

[iron sun]

Shut up an walk the spiral

[late osprey]

maybe the whole thing about "we run a death world because the people there make good candidates" is total BS

[arctic talon]

It is

lol

[spare osprey]

WELCOME TO THE ANGELICASTA

[late osprey]

well i mean we know objectively it is

[spare osprey]

RAHHHHHH

[late osprey]

but

[arctic talon]

But TRADITION

[crystal forum]

"just dont say the F word in front of the lion and you'll be fine"

[late osprey]

maybe its because death worlds are already shitholes so nobody can judge their governing

[arctic talon]

There are some benefits

Tbh

But it’s like

Negligible lol

[late osprey]

well no its like they all read Dune and were like "Hooolllyyy shit Frank Herbert is a military genius"

[iron sun]

This has made me realize I have no idea what happened to Inwit by the 42nd millenium. Is it still just there being a cold shitty place?

[storm jungle]

pretty much this lol

its also the fact that the space marine training/death world regimen shit basically doesnt benefit anything

you can get the best recruit ever just to have them die on the surgery table

which is half the joke

[late osprey]

some of these trials are just hilarious

[spare osprey]

Yeah

[late osprey]

"you have to walk across the entire continent okay see you in 3 days"

[spare osprey]

Just kinda chillin

[arctic talon]

Yes, there’s a joke it doesn’t exist

[storm jungle]

"Also if you goon we'll know and kill you."

[arctic talon]

Because it has 0 lore

[iron sun]

Caliban got exploded, Baal got invaded by tyranids, Fenris gets invaded by sorcerers every other week

Inwit is just chillin (literally)

[storm jungle]

its because nobody remembers Inwit

[arctic talon]

Caliban is a daemon planet

[storm jungle]

IRL and in-universe

[iron sun]

I didn't even remember Inwit

[arctic talon]

[spare osprey]

Caliban was fucking silly

[late osprey]

and then yeah after passing the trial they just die anyway because he was allergic to peanut butter (critical component of astartes organs)

[arctic talon]

Current master of the administratum is from Inwit

And that’s like

All we really know about her background lol

[spare osprey]

Wdym two dudes had three epiphanies in a row and then it fucking blew up

[iron sun]

Fantastic lore tidbit

A tiny little nod that it still exists.

[arctic talon]

Caliban sploded

Oh yeah the white scar homeworld is fine

Except for the chaos invasion

That is not fine

[iron sun]

not fine at all

[spare osprey]

I’m sure the horses are fine tho

[late osprey]

i remember in the dark angels book laughing my ass off because there's like this visual of an Imperialized Caliban

and the characters are looking at a chimera-shaped tractor going "this is total bullshit"

[storm jungle]

To be fair not like they can really remove it

its the IF homeworld

[late osprey]

i swear its described as chimera-shaped

[iron sun]

Chogoris is honestly one of the better primarch homeworlds to wind up on

[storm jungle]

its more that nobody cares IRL to do anything with it

[storm jungle]

fuck no

it sliterally mongolia

lmao

[arctic talon]

It’s like

[storm jungle]

you will get killed by some horse-rider and get your head impaled

[arctic talon]

Not Uber violent

[arctic talon]

Live in a city nerd

[spare osprey]

All I remember about caliban post imperium was it was strip mined and deforested to the utter shit pipes

[green loom]

Death by horse

Eaten by horse

[iron sun]

Yeah but half of them are death worlds. Mongolia is not bad when its like, ok go live on a giant volcano planet. Go live in Hell.

[vagrant fox]

don't forget the china half of it

[arctic talon]

Mr hands

[arctic talon]

And Japan

[spare osprey]

[vagrant fox]

i forgor about the japan bit

[arctic talon]

Fucking Ebon Keshig

Lol

[rocky gale]

Will I get Bubonic Plague if I eat a Marmot there?

[arctic talon]

Thank fuck they didn’t call them dragon bikes or some shit

[storm jungle]

probably

[rocky gale]

Damn

[iron sun]

definitely

[storm jungle]

god shut up and dont jinx it LMAO

[arctic talon]

Their current specialist names are

Actually cool

If I see Jade

Dragon

[vagrant fox]

I'm gonna make a planet called kedad and it's nothing but turkish stereotypes

[dapper gyro]

What are you? Who are you to judge?

[spare osprey]

Iykyk

[arctic talon]

Or some variation of those stereotypical words together

[storm jungle]

LMAO

NOOOO

[arctic talon]

I’m going to burn every copy of the black books with white scars

[iron sun]

model names for tabletop can be cringe but actual lore names for white scars are all bangers

[storm jungle]

Well yeah because White Scar lore is just

open mongolian history wikipage

steal it

[arctic talon]

Ah yes my Chinese favorite character chong ching

[vagrant fox]

Is that her name?

[arctic talon]

Cho Chang is so ass as a name

No

It’s Cho Chang

[storm jungle]

LLDSKFSDLKF

[arctic talon]

Which is about as awful

Man just call me fucking Ching chong and get it over with

[spare osprey]

Legit

[storm jungle]

turkish equilavent is Ali Muhammet

[iron sun]

@storm jungleThat's so true but this is 40k. I'm numb to IP theft.

[arctic talon]

It’s mashing two last names together

[late osprey]

i like that even otherwise obscure central african culture is imported less stereotypically

[storm jungle]

well its not IP theft

[rocky gale]

One of Scotland's greatest heroes

[late osprey]

(celestial lions FTW)

[storm jungle]

mongolians dont exactly copyright

[iron sun]

I just called Asian culture an IP

[arctic talon]

Celestial lions are sick

Tbh

[dapper gyro]

Inspiration...

[late osprey]

yeah

[dapper gyro]

From other IP

[storm jungle]

Do you remember what the Mentors did

[late osprey]

you wanna talk about a genuinely inspired way to bring IRL culture to 40k

[storm jungle]

[late osprey]

celestial lions are a great example

[rocky gale]

Are there any White Scar successor chapters with Terracotta in their name, there has to be.

[spare osprey]

I mean

You ever been to Epcot?

[dapper gyro]

In term of irony, the slave SM legion are all white, pale white even.

[iron sun]

Epcot didn't release a 60 book OC do not steal book series

yet

[storm jungle]

whats the slave legion

[arctic talon]

Thank fuck these names are somewhat original

[spare osprey]

Raven guard

[arctic talon]

Sharks

[spare osprey]

I think

[dapper gyro]

Reference to RG

[storm jungle]

LOL

[arctic talon]

RG sucessors

Really like slaves

Now that I think about it

[iron sun]

Carcarodons are called ravenguard but

[dapper gyro]

Both as slaves and slave masters.

[arctic talon]

They are

They’re just Terran RG

[iron sun]

I'm shocked any survived the purge

The nice purge

[late osprey]

wtf does that even MEAN lol

really liking slaves? in 40k?

[dapper gyro]

White slaves only in the imperium

[late osprey]

what, do they like going to the Terran Slave Market?

[spare osprey]

AU where Corvus was raised by the slave masters instead. Stg I’ve seen that before

[arctic talon]

They really really really like grabbing slaves

[late osprey]

like FOR WHAT

[arctic talon]

Idk how you want me to elaborate

[arctic talon]

Labor or eugenics

Pick one

Lol

[vagrant fox]

There was someone making alt origins for primarchs on the 40k art subreddit, some were neat and I think Corvus being raised by the slavemasters was one of them

[late osprey]

its just hilarious to think about in the context of the setting

[spare osprey]

That’s probably it

[arctic talon]

This is false

[vagrant fox]

Big E would've liked slavemaster Corvus more I bet

[arctic talon]

But I am not searching up the words necessary

For the art LOL

[late osprey]

"hey we have a shitload of servitors like everywhere else in the imperium we should probably use those for work inst--"

"No. I really, really, really like Prince of Egypt." - "Loves Slaves" Chapter Master

[dapper gyro]

Let me spread the misinformation

[dapper gyro]

Let the propaganda machine roll

[spare osprey]

I only keep Ratling servitors around me

It’s funnier

[arctic talon]

Well you need slaves for servitors

Or rather warm human bodies

Vat growing is expensive

[rocky gale]

I found a homebrew White Scar successor chapter called the "Mental Scars"

[arctic talon]

It’s easier to grab some dude who just

Stole bread

And carve his brain out

[late osprey]

sure but like

[spare osprey]

No tf you didn’t

That’s not real

[arctic talon]

What the fuck

[rocky gale]

https://wh40khomebrew.fandom.com/wiki/Mental_Scars

[arctic talon]

Oh god NO

NOOOO

[late osprey]

when have you EVER heard of anyone in the imperium having a manpower shortage?

[spare osprey]

GOD FUCK THAT WIKI

[rocky gale]

It consists of one surviving Marine

[arctic talon]

Idk, never really

[dapper gyro]

That's the most random shit ever...

[spare osprey]

wtf is Old Bess

[late osprey]

"gee we gotta go out and get some more people, this hive city sure ain't cutting it"

[arctic talon]

Tbf

[dapper gyro]

Just call it PTSD legion

[arctic talon]

They are like

[late osprey]

this is awesome tbh

[dapper gyro]

Trauma Marines

[arctic talon]

Not near civilization normally

[spare osprey]

Would you like the prison legion

[late osprey]

" Leaders: "Go in hard!" Response: "Come out wet!""

FORTEZZA MENTA

[spare osprey]

So beautiful

[late osprey]

duuude

https://wh40khomebrew.fandom.com/wiki/Dakkamarines

this is sick as fuck

[arctic talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/222200485115985921/1315841171611844669/jeff.gif

[dapper gyro]

Heresy all around...

[rocky gale]

https://wh40khomebrew.fandom.com/wiki/Da_Immortulz

One up

[dapper gyro]

We should exterminatus Earth.

IRL

[late osprey]

honestly just make sure your chapter sounds like a prison gang and you're good to go

[spare osprey]

There’s this one fuckin

Gorilla chapter

[late osprey]

"Yeah, we're the Space Sharks, this is our block, see?"

[spare osprey]

They’ve got huge fucking fists it’s adorable

[dapper gyro]

Hello, Sally commander? I'm in DarkTide lore chat, there is an Eldar infestation. Yes, you can bring the heavy flamer.

[vagrant fox]

Did someone say ignean?

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/black-heart-raiders-warhhammer40k-drukhari-ravager-reavers-gif-17873389

[arctic talon]

The bikers are weird lol

They’re wych cult members

But the raiders got kabalites in em

Heh

[late osprey]

dark eldar are so cool EXCEPT for their vehicles

i wish they had eldar-style vehicles

if there was ever a good thing GW did with the new editions, it was certainly letting you do that

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/no-more-hero-no-more-heroes-bad-take-gif-24149258

Drukhari vehicles are peak

[drifting cloud]

I found a name for my space marine chapter homebrew.

The Iron Redeemers. Iron hands successors. A fleet based chapter focused on plunging into the void of space and the warp in search of space hulks in Segmentum Obscurus to reclaim lost technology.

Terminators, tech marines and apothecaries make up the majority of the fighting force. Supported by dreadnoughts and void craft.

[arctic talon]

I hope a reaver decapitates you with their bike knives smh

[late osprey]

sorry but no, Jabba the Hutt's Sail Barge is not cool in the context of 40k

grav-tanks are way cooler

grav-TANKS

[arctic talon]

Okay but consider

[rocky gale]

Drukhari vehicles are way cooler than the Eldar grav tanks

[late osprey]

okay those are cool

[arctic talon]

Nah

They’re both cool to me

I love them all lol

[rocky gale]

Like if you were talking about the Wraith constructs then yea maybe

[late osprey]

but you're genuinely trolling if you thing the Jabba the Hutt Barge looks cool and Grav Tanks don't

[arctic talon]

I think the raiders and such fit

What the drukhari do

[late osprey]

the bikes are cool

[arctic talon]

Which is the fact they’re having a good time

[late osprey]

im sure there's all sorts of lore fitting it

but i just like tanks

[arctic talon]

Voidraven is fun as well tbh

[rocky gale]

I wish the Drukhari had Wraith constructs

[vagrant fox]

Tantalus is cool, I'm not so keen on the other pleasure barges

[rocky gale]

But not having Grav tanks is fine

[late osprey]

yeah this is badass

[rocky gale]

I dunno, the grav tanks just look weird

[late osprey]

alien, if you will

[vagrant fox]

Post tantalus I want to see it

[tough haven]

https://youtu.be/dECZL9DUnVo?si=IMwKDg5wd284ABAM

[rocky gale]

Genuinely I'm considering buying two more Drukhari combat patrols for additional Raiders/Ravagers before it gets replaced with our new Codex

[late osprey]

see the tantalus is a scam

im told its a grav-tank

i look at it?

[vagrant fox]

[late osprey]

Treasure Planet ship

never been madder

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/treasure-planet-treasure-planet-disney-jim-gif-19374523

[vagrant fox]

So it's cool

[rocky gale]

Peak

[late osprey]

but not a tank

[rocky gale]

You just don't understand the life of a pirate

[late osprey]

maybe i like my piracy a bit less on the nose

what next? vect having a peg-leg and saying "Yarrrrrr!"?

for the record, everyone is entitled to like the parts of 40k that they like

i just specifically wish drukhari had tanks to complement their range

since i otherwise think they're very cool

[arctic talon]

I think the drukhari not having tanks leans into their faction identity

At least personally

[rocky gale]

Don't think we're missing tanks, Ravager fits that role while fitting the theme

[late osprey]

the ravager is not a tank

[arctic talon]

The ravager is a more of an IFV

then a tank tbh

[late osprey]

certainly in the context of the average raid i can see the ultimate rationale

[arctic talon]

I do wish the Ravager/raiders

[late osprey]

but these are the inheritors of the eldar empire, SURELY they have tanks just in case they're needed

[arctic talon]

looked more like they did in art

[plush mason]

they are all about hit and run raiding tactics so their vehicles being light fast and having extra room for troops and or loot are very fitting imo

[storm jungle]

not every dark eldar thinks this

[arctic talon]

one tiny issue

[late osprey]

and it's not like eldar vehicles are slow

[arctic talon]

they need a psyker to pilot that shit

[storm jungle]

most just wanna raid and enslave people

[late osprey]

i dont mean that in the sense of any noble sentiment, just capability

[storm jungle]

the "inheritors" thing only gets brought up when they wanna boast, otherwise most really dont believe in it

[storm jungle]

yeah I know thats what I mean

[arctic talon]

Urien Rakarth likes to bring it up

but thats because he's uh

older then dirt

[storm jungle]

well

[arctic talon]

like

[storm jungle]

Rakarth predates like most things-

[arctic talon]

he might actually be

[storm jungle]

yeah that lmao

[arctic talon]

older then dirt

on earth

[storm jungle]

YEP

[arctic talon]

Rakarth is honestly kind of horrifying lol

[storm jungle]

the first haemonculi literally came from the ruling bodies of the eldar dominion lol

[arctic talon]

he knows so much and he just acts like

so disarming to an extent

by Drukhari standards

[storm jungle]

dont forget that one imperial world he convinced thta they were their saviors 💀

[late osprey]

its just weird to me that the craftworld eldar have such things and the dark eldar dont; again it sorta makes sense in the context of raids (although craftworld eldar seem to be nimble just fine), for Libertarian Home Defense i'd figure they'd be useful in comorragh home-turf

[arctic talon]

and then before you know it you've willingly submitted yourself to whatever new horrifying contraption hes cooked up

[late osprey]

rival kabal encroaches on your part of the city? fire prism, bitch

[storm jungle]

Commorragh is too chaotic

theres no sense of community

[arctic talon]

Also again psyker pilot

[storm jungle]

its a dog-eat-dog realm

[arctic talon]

They'd need to do some serious retrofitting

for some vehicles

[storm jungle]

^

[late osprey]

thats exactly what i mean

[rocky gale]

No need tanks, give Wraithblades

I want them

[arctic talon]

Haemonculi flesh abominations

[late osprey]

though yeah if the falcon chassis needs a psyker pilot it makes sense that they wouldn't be used i guess

[arctic talon]

take it or leave it

[plush mason]

melee wraithguards

[arctic talon]

Urien Rakarth is genuinely one of my favorite drukhari characters

he's so disarming and charismatic

and he uh

[rocky gale]

Haemonculi are the weakest branch of the Drukhari right now

[arctic talon]

he fucking looks like this

[rocky gale]

We can't even buy Grotesques

[storm jungle]

watch out

he has worms

[late osprey]

to elaborate, BECAUSE comorragh is anarchic i'd figure the drukhari would keep their big guns and heavy material at home

[storm jungle]

I mean they do

[late osprey]

to protect themselves from rival drukhari burglars

[storm jungle]

its just that not every kabal is equal

[arctic talon]

yeah

see the Kabal of the reaving tempest in Rogue Trader

LOL

[storm jungle]

"Give up your nukes and we'll protect you homie, pinky promise"

[plush mason]

thats just a magos: some random no name plaentary noble

[storm jungle]

real

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

i still cant believe

this actually happened

and a governor trusted rakarth

fucking dumbass

[arctic talon]

Rakarth has infinite charisma

somehow

Like not even a joke

[late osprey]

just wait until he gets on the black throne

[storm jungle]

the black throne is never getting mentioned again

dont worry

[arctic talon]

I'm ngl I don't even think he cares about that thing

[plush mason]

yeah that has too much plot changing potential

[late osprey]

i think nobody wants to care LOL

[storm jungle]

its a really lazy plotpoint

"we gotta close khaine's gate lets make a golden throne"

like

lol

everything has to center around the Emperor somehow

[late osprey]

just fix the hinges, dumbasses

[arctic talon]

They did

its going great

Gj rakarth

my GOAT

ignore all the other warp breachers

[plush mason]

the old ones built the webway right?

[arctic talon]

Vect does no wrong

[arctic talon]

as far as we know yes they built it

[late osprey]

honestly thinking about getting a dark eldar kill team

all my friends are Imperium players anyway

someone has to be the bad guy

[plush mason]

so like, what use did it serve them seeing as they where like the masters of the warp at the time why did they need a space between it and reality?

[arctic talon]

if you want to give them a stroke

play mandrakes

[arctic talon]

its a highway

[late osprey]

so PERSONALLY i like shooting a lot

[arctic talon]

ah

kabalites it is then LOL

[late osprey]

dark lances are such an awesome weapon design-wise

[rocky gale]

I still need to get the Mandrakes, I've got the Hand of the Archon and they're cool

[arctic talon]

def do not play mandrakes

Hand of the Archon are super fun

[late osprey]

even though they're less useful against dudes

[arctic talon]

Tbh

Dark lance just

deletes

whoever it hits in Killteam

[late osprey]

the visual they have in RT

is so awesome

[arctic talon]

yeah

I love it

[plush mason]

isnt that the dark energy gun?

[arctic talon]

yeah

[plush mason]

i love that

[storm jungle]

its dark matter

[plush mason]

even better

[storm jungle]

oh yeah reminds me, i made a video montage once of what my friend asked dark eldar weapons are like

[rocky gale]

A classic

[storm jungle]

where was it...

[arctic talon]

death

[storm jungle]

the one before the last clip is literally what a dark lance is like

fucking awful lmao

[arctic talon]

its great lol

[late osprey]

this is great

[rocky gale]

Reminds me I saw someone reposting one of your memes on the Guard Reddit earlier and had a

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

moment

[arctic talon]

oh also

[storm jungle]

Lmao yeah one of the users here shared it with me and asked if it was me

[arctic talon]

I love how the skysplinter assassin

has the bird as a weapon

go my razorwing

[storm jungle]

pluck their eyes out

[plush mason]

and those are some of the more tame examples

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/natu-scarab-go-my-scarab-go-my-natu-will-pokemon-gif-3217078715471770392

[storm jungle]

yep

i had to look up like some of the most random movies to ge tthese lol

[arctic talon]

the Elixicant is also hilarious

[vagrant fox]

The Cube

[arctic talon]

he has a medical stim dispenser

except that shit is

way too strong

for any non drukhari to handle lol

so they just die of a heart attack

he's bringing the good shit™️

[arctic talon]

guardsmen vs WYCH

[vagrant fox]

Are we get an official emperors tarot at adepticon yet

[storm jungle]

is adepticon tonight?

[vagrant fox]

I have no idea

[storm jungle]

[raven stone]

@storm jungle Adepticon reveals are 2 AM Thursday UK time

So I assume it might be 3 AM or 4 AM in your area

[raven stone]

An actual Emperor's Tarot set with their own readings would be cool, even if it throws the Tarot reading community into a fuss

[hallow basin]

unfortunately, Emperor's tarot as seen in lore are impossible to replicate irl

Would be cool to have an app though

[vagrant fox]

There's that guy in Baneblade with a little computer that gives a reading when shaken

I can see it working as merch for nerds

[young pecan]

What is the most cursed Warhammer lore you know

Retconned in modern lore or not

[arctic talon]

We including whfb

[young pecan]

You too

[arctic talon]

How racist do we wana get

[young pecan]

Absolutely

Uh oh

Lay it on me

[arctic talon]

time for Pygmie lore

[arctic talon]

They're savage war hungry cannibals in lustria. also referred to as "lesser men".

These small primitives still have simple lives, hunting crocodiles and collecting heads. Cannibalistic and warlike, they have few aspirations to civilisation. Their only interaction with the other peoples of the Known World is in the form of taking pot-shots at Old World explorers and Lizardmen

Gj GW

also good on them for retconning it literally the next edition

they got added back pre end times but their lore was heavily retcon'd and made not absurdly racist

[young pecan]

Jim Crowe final boss holy shit

[dapper gyro]

The Custodes removed their armour to mourn the Big E. Among them, there are female Custodes... So you know...

[arctic talon]

but yeah pygmies got retcon'd from existence

[young pecan]

Equality for custodians I suppose

[arctic talon]

and then retcon'd back in as something much less offensive

[sly ivy]

Those models are truly incredible

[arctic talon]

That’s not that cursed I’m ngl

I’d assume they still wore robes

[vagrant fox]

The eldar grav tank being disabled by children using sticks and stones always sticks out as absurdly bad to me

[arctic talon]

Good thing it’s not canon

But yeah cs goto in general has

Some really bad stuff lol

Backflipping terminators

[vagrant fox]

Was it retconned or do I misremember?

[arctic talon]

Also terminators in rhinos

All of Goto’s books have been sent to the retcon realm

[vagrant fox]

Oh, yeah. I forgor about that

[arctic talon]

Oh does bloodbowl count

As warhammer lore

[vagrant fox]

I had a recollections of rocks being thrown into the engines with the most dumbfounded feeling accompanying it

[arctic talon]

There is the “god” Nuffle

[vagrant fox]

Surely it does

[arctic talon]

And Nuffle is spelled

NFL

[dapper gyro]

Oh, I'm not talking about cursed stuff.

[arctic talon]

Oh

Nvm then lol

[dapper gyro]

Otherwise, there is the Death Spectre recruitment thing...

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah

Eugenics

[young pecan]

What's that?

[arctic talon]

They have a “breeding” world

And they kidnap people

[young pecan]

Oh

Was that retcon'd

Say yes

[arctic talon]

No

It’s canon

[young pecan]

Ok

[arctic talon]

It’s brought up in a recent book

They get in a fight over it with the RG

[sly ivy]

Lmao eugenics is deeply entrenched in dark sci fi.

Like it’s Dune’s whole premise

[arctic talon]

Eugenics is most prevalent with Tau

Funnily enough

[sly ivy]

Not going away

[arctic talon]

It’s less prevelant with the imperium then the tau

But the imperium does have like a lot more people

[sly ivy]

Also modern Western humans literally do it with infant genetic diseases a number of which are nonlethal.

I expect it will only become more common as more is discovered about genotype phenotype.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[sly ivy]

So people say it like it’s this big Nazi bad word but we casually do it all the time

Also selection of sperm and egg donors

[arctic talon]

It’s not state sponsored

(Mostly)

[sly ivy]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh state contributes to or subsidizes or exempts healthcare in most western countries sooooo

It kind of is

[arctic talon]

Fair

[sly ivy]

$20 says China or Korea starts aggressively to do it with eg iq-linked alleles.

Gamete selection if not selective abortion

[vagrant fox]

The stupid war of the beast, ten-thousand curses upon it, and the cattle thing

[sly ivy]

And let’s not even start with gene editing

[vagrant fox]

That's stupid cursed

[sly ivy]

How did Abnett write that lmao

[iron sun]

eugenics is a very specific thing about who can have kids. treatments for hereditary spinal atrophy are not the same game as sterilizing people because they're undesirables.

[sly ivy]

This is a difference between the historians and the biologists

[vagrant fox]

I'd write slop if I was paid for it too I guess

[sly ivy]

I’m a biologist and in biology eugenics is broadly construed.

And not the same as the historical eugenics movement.

[arctic talon]

I don’t think he wrote that one

I could be wrong

[sly ivy]

Didn’t he write the beast arises

Am I on crack

(The answer is yes)

[vagrant fox]

One of the authors

[dusk patrol]

All we know with the Death Spectres is they take genetically desirable men and women and bring them to their homeworld to produce better aspirants.

[vagrant fox]

Annandale and Guymer too, some others I forget

[dusk patrol]

I do think it’s funny people think that somehow crosses a line

[storm jungle]

I legit doubt its really done in a humane way tbh

[dusk patrol]

As if every chapter doesn’t do the same thing basically

[sly ivy]

What are you smoking it’s 40k

Of course it’s humane

[storm jungle]

Shut up christofa

[storm jungle]

I dont really know tbh, ive been a warhammer fan for over a decade there isnt really anything I found too cursed.

[dusk patrol]

Definitely, but that’s most chapter recruitment programs

[storm jungle]

I think if i had to pick its the ork farms in the War of the Beast

mostly for uhhh

[dusk patrol]

People just don’t like it put as stark I guess as with the Death Spectres

[storm jungle]

the mention of ripping peoples teeth, fingernails and toenails so they cant kill themselves

[crisp heath]

[storm jungle]

nail torture shit always grosses me out

[sly ivy]

The minstrel pygmies are pretty cursed

But 40K yeah lol ironically

[crisp heath]

[storm jungle]

so thats a personal thing

[dusk patrol]

The uh, flesh farm thing

[storm jungle]

Yeah that

[dusk patrol]

In the Honsou Ventris book

[sly ivy]

I was gonna try a that’s my fetish but I just can’t it grosses me out too

[storm jungle]

Daemonculaba is like literally whatever

i watched shit like SAW, Hostel, its the last gross thing to me lol

[crisp heath]

Yup

[storm jungle]

Yep I CANNT fucking watch it

its either that or uh

[vagrant fox]

I think it's the implication, it can get into peoples heads

[storm jungle]

doing any sort of cut or something to someones heel

that fucking ruins me lol

[arctic talon]

I’m ngl

I’m going to admit to this

[sly ivy]

oh no

Think twice

[arctic talon]

The stroggification thing

In Quake

[dusk patrol]

(I think it’s mostly people don’t logically think through what chapters are doing)

[storm jungle]

Nahhh yeah the Stroggification is fucked

[arctic talon]

I think it might have done something to my brain when I was young

[storm jungle]

legit horrifying

[crisp heath]

No no No. There was a horror movie from the 2000s where the bad guy did this up close I tapped out 😭

[dusk patrol]

It’s pretty fucked

Also uh, the beginning for Black Ops 4 was super fucked

[arctic talon]

Now I get like

[dusk patrol]

Where your dude gets torn apart by the robots

[arctic talon]

Really intrusive thoughts

Whenever I like

[storm jungle]

they do it to a dude in the first Hostel movie ||so he cant run and you see his heel skin move up slightly and its just UERGHHHGHG||

[arctic talon]

See a saw

LOL

[storm jungle]

TO BE FAİR

Thats kinda fucking awful but funny

stroggification is like oof

you seeing it happen to the guy before you is what makes worse imo

[arctic talon]

https://youtu.be/CJwyjWpP4XA?si=_peN0_inx11Atz6l

[crisp heath]

Of all movies I saw it I'm. Was fucking house of wax 😭

[storm jungle]

because you KNOW its coming and you are next

[storm jungle]

MAN

House of Wax is a good one

[arctic talon]

Whoever made it first person

As well

💀

What a choice lol

[crisp heath]

It is but the uh cut the heel scene made me physically ill

[dusk patrol]

Thank god it’s old

[arctic talon]

Yeah

With modern graphics

[dusk patrol]

I kinda worry about kids getting fucked up by some horror games these days lol

[storm jungle]

I always keep this clip saved for memes but man its 💀

[vagrant fox]

Man I saw that as a youngin and all I could think was 'huh'

[dusk patrol]

It’s so easy to find that shit online

[storm jungle]

it literally can just shove its arm through your head viltrumite style but just doesnt and brutalizes you instead

which is 100% programmed behavior

lmao

[dusk patrol]

The “cuts” help a lot

[arctic talon]

Terror tactics

[storm jungle]

yeeeep

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

if we had combat bots we'd make them do shit like this 100%

[arctic talon]

My favorite stellaris research/j

[storm jungle]

shame the ones we got now suck balls

someone post a clip of that small dog bot

https://tenor.com/view/boston-dynamics-spot-jumprope-robot-gif-20198938

[dusk patrol]

Me when literally anytime something that can just snap a mfers neck once they get their hands on them proceeds to yeet the person around

[arctic talon]

Robot dog is cute

[vagrant fox]

A vague associate of mine watched nothing but liveleak and he's stupid neurotic now

[arctic talon]

💀

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I luckily never had any desire to find that stuff and still don’t

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/stirring-cooking-chef-gif-14816120

[dusk patrol]

It’s just, idk

[storm jungle]

I tried once but i realised its stupid af and I shouldnt

also like, you know

[arctic talon]

Me getting sent it in middle school

[storm jungle]

watching a fucking person die isnt fun

[arctic talon]

10/10

Would not recommend

[dusk patrol]

Some things you shouldn’t be desensitized too

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

Mhm

[storm jungle]

when its fiction its fine

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/spot-boston-dynamics-the-club-can't-even-handle-me-right-now-robot-dog-googly-eyes-gif-12941939824480637782

[vagrant fox]

I saw a few and one is just seared into my mindscape vividly to this day

[storm jungle]

the robots do get a bit quirky at night...

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-fail-atlas-boston-dynamics-parkour-gif-22737016

Poor atlas lol

What a cool machine though

[storm jungle]

Man of Iron ahhh

[vagrant fox]

I like it when they bully the robots
It's what I want to do to apes at the zoo

[arctic talon]

💀

[dusk patrol]

Tbf I think most of us would look like that too if we tried that

[arctic talon]

Prolly

[storm jungle]

Not wrong

[arctic talon]

Ngl I wonder how flexible I am still

Since I stopped doing gymnastics

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[arctic talon]

Prolly not very lol

[dusk patrol]

Probably better than you think

[vagrant fox]

I used to be able to bend backwards and just about touch my heels when crawling on the ground like that
Bet I'd die trying now

[dusk patrol]

I’ve been trying to work on my flexibility some

[arctic talon]

I wonder if you die after drinking this lol

I feel like the implication is you die horribly

[vagrant fox]

It'd be a good five minutes of life

[dusk patrol]

That or anyone drinking it is gonna do something which will hasten their passing

[arctic talon]

It is expired frenzon

[dusk patrol]

Reads like it might be kinda like frenzon

Yeah

[dusky beacon]

I love how thr ingredients list is covered by a fucking sticker lmao

[arctic talon]

It is expired assasinorum grade frenzon

Which is

Concerning

[storm jungle]

canonical taurox image is crazy

[arctic talon]

I love imperial propaganda

It’s so funny

Sometimes

[storm jungle]

I miss these posts, i hate that this brand died lol

[dusk patrol]

I mean if you’re taking out a Trygon with a single Taurox

Maybe it is pretty sick

[arctic talon]

I’m so sad regimental standard doesn’t exist now

Yeah

The fucking anti aerodynamics propaganda poster

Was the funniest shit ever

[storm jungle]

I assume they just kinda wanted to stop like most GW supplement material

[dusky beacon]

Arent most assassins augmented in some capacity? Especially those "assassin's" that feel like Khornes idea of an assassin

[storm jungle]

i hate it

Yeah they are

[arctic talon]

Heavily yes

[dusk patrol]

They’re stated to be as augmented as marines just differently

[arctic talon]

Most of them get mutilated and put back together

[dusk patrol]

For a different purpose

[arctic talon]

They just look human

They aren’t exactly human anymore

[storm jungle]

Just dont get mobbed by hobos and you'll be fine

[arctic talon]

LOL

[vagrant fox]

Eversors are hopped up on every variety of monster energy

[storm jungle]

Vraks Moment

bro really thought he was Ethan Hunt

[dusk patrol]

He wasn’t a Blign OC™️

[storm jungle]

to be fair isnt the only bad Bligh OC like Rex

[dusky beacon]

Ah that's the temple I was thinking of

[storm jungle]

other I.A characters are pretty good

[dusk patrol]

Now here’s Hector Rex 1v1ing the Ultimate Bloodthirster

[arctic talon]

Nah there was the other inqusitor dude

Who died

To a bio titan

[storm jungle]

Solomon Kane???

HOW IS HE BAD

[dusk patrol]

He had tea with the Emperor once so he’s good

[arctic talon]

Nah

He’s not bad

[sly ivy]

Ok rex is such a good model tho

[arctic talon]

Oh

I misread

Fuck

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[dusk patrol]

He is

He’s just by far the most OC Donut steal Bligh ever did

[storm jungle]

I love the Anphelion Project

"PLEASE RESPOND TO MY VOICEMAILS IM GONNA DIE."

"The Number you are trying to call cannot be reached in this time. Die well Agent Kane 🙂 "

💀

[arctic talon]

Poor Kane lol

[vagrant fox]

That one fanfic where an eversor has to kill a chaos marine sorcerer and gets pumped so full of drugs he catches fire from air friction is so stupid it's cool

[arctic talon]

He seemed like a nice guy

By inqusition standards

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

Red Scorpions

[storm jungle]

hes great until you get to the sword/emperore audience bit imo

he also just has so much trouble politically on Vraks which i love

anything he does gets judged by his colleagues

down to his retinue members being fucking killed by rival Inquisitors because he got to the helm of the campaign, its so good

[arctic talon]

It is what it is

[storm jungle]

"WHAT DID I DO"

He says, getting decapitated

[arctic talon]

I do love how vraks is just devolves into a inqusitorial dick measuring contest

By the end of it

[dusk patrol]

The Starfort with his own GK posse is

A bit much imo

[storm jungle]

Oh right i forgot that lmao

i legit remember it as them just being requested in by him

I THINK I can just about let that fly because hes a Lord Memequisitor but yeah

[dusk patrol]

My bigger issue is he need more history lol

[storm jungle]

yeah he has jackshit

even the new Vraks book does nothing with him

he just recruits Tyborc

because uhhh idfk

[dusk patrol]

He’s like the biggest dick Malleus Inquisitor ever

[storm jungle]

and thats saying something

[arctic talon]

Let him show up

[storm jungle]

because its the fucking Ordo Malleus

[arctic talon]

In nachmund

Or some shit

[storm jungle]

No

Nachmund has uhhh

the fuck was his name

[dusk patrol]

And he just does….Vraks

[storm jungle]

Erasmus something

[arctic talon]

Oh fuck

You right lol

[dusk patrol]

Some podunk world that doesn’t matter

[arctic talon]

Idk

Give him a novel

I want Hector Rex novel

[storm jungle]

We got Coteaz

it was bad

next

[dusk patrol]

Make him a boogieman who shows up at the end of a chaos book

[dapper gyro]

Defund the Inquisition

[storm jungle]

Guys I got a great plot idea

[arctic talon]

Average heretek

[storm jungle]

how about its Rex hunting a mcguffin

and he destroys it at the end

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[arctic talon]

Okay mayfly

[storm jungle]

Rexplodes it if you will

[arctic talon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

UAGH-

[dapper gyro]

VT2 skin?

[storm jungle]

Nah, monster hunter

Kerillian's VT1 drip is like INSANELY cool though, i hate how fur makes everything look badass, unfair as hell

[arctic talon]

Monster hunter wilds Kerellian cosplay lol

[arctic talon]

VT1 drip in general goes unfathomably hard

Imo

[storm jungle]

100%

i use all of them for VT2

You can tell they really researched the IP well for the first game from the character concepts, Bardin is like the only safe boring one but hes a fucking dwarf so like not much you can do tbh

[arctic talon]

Ngl

Baradin isn’t that safe

He breaks the stereotype

[dapper gyro]

MH is not my game, despite I really like the concept and world building.

[storm jungle]

He has a horned helmet and green clothes

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

yeah that lmao

[storm jungle]

same

[arctic talon]

Yeah

He’s green

And he’s

Not THE RACIST™️

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

Can’t improve on what’s already perfect, wazzock.

https://tenor.com/view/bardin-vermintide-dwarf-warhammer-gif-23354885

[arctic talon]

I love the little snores the monsters make while sleeping it makes me feel bad when I carve them up for parts later 💀

[dusk patrol]

Bonus meme:

[arctic talon]

LOL

Spryers are so funny I’m ngl

[dusk patrol]

I don’t dislike all of it, but, I think Van Saar is by far my least favorite house design wise

[arctic talon]

Fair

Tbh

[dusk patrol]

I don’t hate it

But I feel like their whole gimmick overshadows stuff sometimes and their aesthetic doesn’t fit as well for me

[arctic talon]

Idk I just find spryers funny because they’re rich noble teens/young adults

Going to like

Murder homeless people

[dusk patrol]

I like the idea yeah

[arctic talon]

Van Saar sometimes feels too techy

Ironically

[dapper gyro]

If that's 40K imperium, then yes, very out of place.

[dusk patrol]

Idk what I’d want, and I get the point is they’re so different partially

[arctic talon]

Those are spryer suits which are xenotech

But yeah used by imperial nobles