40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

people forget psychic abilities arent always magic energy ball based and that you can always be a "low level" one that can just do slight psionic stuff

[gray umbra]

Assail is like concentrated pain and hatred iirc

[storm jungle]

Yep, even Loner says as much lol

"Shards of hatred do your thing hehehe"

[fossil current]

My favorite part is that in rogue trader your officer class characters can use intelligence instead of fellowship to scale up their stats.

So this character isn’t a good leader because he’s good at talking to people, but because he’s hyper aware of the battlefield, his opponents, what everyone is thinking

[celest dome]

Spiteshard from Navis something

Primer

[gray umbra]

My rt psyker sets himself on fire and murders everything with a sword lol

[fossil current]

That.. is also amazing!

[gray umbra]

Sanctic pyromancy bladedancer

My dt build is based on maximizing gains by capping peril

Use shards to get to 100 peril, switch to force gs and murder anything left

Peril drops, get half bar and activate force gs to max peril again. Rinse and repeat

[crystal forum]

edging your peril

[gray umbra]

It does stupid amounts of damage

[crystal forum]

demons in the warp doing stock soundstage effects every time you near peril explosion

[gray umbra]

Thats kind of the only downside

Its 30 minutes of daemons screaming in your ear

[fossil current]

Vet is definitely my main, cadian shotgunner goes crazy but I’m currently working on making a faithful sister of battle

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

"im planning on making a sister of battle zealot"

[fossil current]

Did I say zealot? It’s an ogryn

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-rogan-what-wut-uhh-elon-musk-gif-17174285

shutting my mouth then

[vagrant fox]

I heard Cadia

[crystal forum]

sister Gertrude should lay off the extra rations for a bit

[remote widget]

Maybe make a krieg ogryn next, to really shake things up..

[sharp pollen]

now krieg ogryn is really "buzz lightyear meme"

[fossil current]

“CADIA STANDS” and they have like a single rock from the planets surface

[green loom]

Multiple actually

[remote widget]

That's actually what ogryn buddy throws, it's why it's so effective

[vagrant fox]

or a little vial of dust

[crystal forum]

wasn't even born on cadia

[fossil current]

The emperor provides!!!

[vagrant fox]

For real for real Robert Rath cooked with the Fall of Cadia and made me like them again

now I annoy everyone in darktide with my cadia vet

[crystal forum]

it took them two books to become good

[remote widget]

We need some way of purple eyeing the new ones now

[fossil current]

You’re not annoying them, you’re letting them know Cadians are the best because the lore definitely doesn’t argue with itself on who the most elite Militarum is

[gray umbra]

Cadia voc lines are the only ones i like from them tbh

[vagrant fox]

Can always tattoo the eyes, surely it's safer in 40k

[gray umbra]

I am a fan of "HAMMER OF THE EMPEROR"

[celest dome]

The regiments that come from Terra mostly

Ol' Hundred

[crystal forum]

because they never see any action

[vagrant fox]

Don't need to see action when you're a chad guarding Terra 😎

[crystal forum]

most dont even leave the imperial palace's outer perimeter

the most elite active regiment is tanith if you go by main characters alone

[fossil current]

In my headcanon since I’m on PlayStation; My cadian served on Kadaku in the SM2 campaign and it went south bad

[remote widget]

597th is pretty up there for low casualties

[crystal forum]

who

that's not a regiment

valhallans are not particularly elite compared to other regiments

[remote widget]

Just the 597th, the rest are human wave, yeah

[celest dome]

Lucifer Black do go out

[fossil current]

I’d say Cadian 8th but only when Titus is body blocking all the horrors of the 40 first millennium from them

[crystal forum]

if you start counting pre 40k regiments it becomes a clown show

[remote widget]

Vitrian dragoons go hard, lasproof armor that has a stealthmode

[vagrant fox]

Man I forgot my favourite guard aren't even 40k proper, Les Grognards go hard though

[crystal forum]

solar auxilia would beat cadia by a long shot

but that's HH lore so we can ignore it and call it names

[fossil current]

I know there was a jacket in the shop for vet but I would love to set up a commissar look just to pretend to be in charge of the other rejects

[gray umbra]

Dukane's drip goes hard

Sadly unobtainable through regular means

[fossil current]

So far

[crystal forum]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/7/7b/SteelLegion.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110121212505

steel legion my second fav regiment

the half face mask goes so hard

[fossil current]

That fella with the bolt pistol is so locked in

[vagrant fox]

Steel Legion is probably up there with Krieg for my faves

[crystal forum]

i prefer steel legion since the half mask lets them show emotions

preferably fear

[fossil current]

You think they get along with the imperial fists?

[crystal forum]

what makes you think they would

[fossil current]

They dress in the same colors

[crystal forum]

do you think khornate world eaters get along with blood angels

[fossil current]

Cadians get along with Raptors, Night lords love the krieg, I just assume it works that way for everyone

[crystal forum]

where did you see that night lords enjoy krieg

[fossil current]

They must do, infinite skin for infinite knitting

[sacred bluff]

SKINS FOR THE SKINS THRONE

[gray umbra]

Preysight

[crystal forum]

in midnight clad

[fossil current]

Oh! And the Mobians seem really friendly to the death guard these days

[celest dome]

No ?

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah I love the ferrymen

So good

I feel like these minis alone do so much world building

[queen laurel]

The squat goes hard

[rose thorn]

Fr

I love the gas mask

[queen laurel]

I love the squats wrench

[arctic talon]

fun they got minis

now where are the rest of the bounty hunters

All of them

GW

[storm jungle]

Later.

[arctic talon]

[queen laurel]

God damn it i want a good rts aos game

[arctic talon]

@storm jungle @queen laurel hey nerds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoyjv2l645U

Noxus™️

[storm jungle]

YES

YES

YES

https://tenor.com/view/ksi-yes-gif-26070625

[queen laurel]

Stop spamming chat i'm watching the video

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-invincible-conquest-invincible-s3e8-conquest-slap-gif-807046261511030968

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-conquest-invincible-invincible-love-heart-gif-5634990845766081991

[arctic talon]

Do you want Leblanc to step on you

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-hamster-arson-funny-animal-animals-with-captions-gif-25121764

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/live-firecat-firepunch-agni-firepunch-live-gif-26357939

[queen laurel]

No but i know who does

@celest dome i found a woman for you come here

[storm jungle]

okay so like

the black rose is a secret society that runs the entirety of noxus and has spies everywhere?

[queen laurel]

Dude just by watching the cinematic

[storm jungle]

"ready to die for an illusion" is crazy

[queen laurel]

It seems that they made noxus what it is

[storm jungle]

nahhh man we gotta take these women down

[queen laurel]

History lies and years of plotting

[queen laurel]

Bro imagine scheming and lying your way into creating a empire that runs on strength

[storm jungle]

Real.

[queen laurel]

Holy zog

Leblanc you need to chill

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Yes

Well they don't run Noxus

they lost that recently

but they're incredibly powerful

and pretty much have a level of influence in every level of society

[queen laurel]

How much of noxus is really noxus anyway how much of it isn't a lie by the black rose

[arctic talon]

The art goes crazy tbh, its also the only art of the original immortal bastion

[arctic talon]

For Noxian history? lying by omission

is a large part of the Black Rose

Noxus survived the Runewar, but the black rose helped mitigate the worst of it by making it shittier for everyone else

[gray umbra]

God i want leblanc to 100-0 me with one burst

[sacred bluff]

In my world, Jinx and Isha are still alive

[arctic talon]

LOL

Jinx lived

btw

She vented piped

[sacred bluff]

[arctic talon]

Noxus's tribes did defeat Mordekaiser

[storm jungle]

Yeah Jinx is totally alive

[queen laurel]

Bro imagine being a noxian grunt believing the lies of your nation and thinking you are going to bring about a true empire of strength lmao

[storm jungle]

Isha though uh

[arctic talon]

but only because Leblanc and his inner circle fucking backstabbed him

[sacred bluff]

Isha is fine...

[arctic talon]

And Noxus becoming an empire was generally unrelated

[queen laurel]

I mean i found her ashes i can sell it to you for cloning for 50 bucks

[arctic talon]

to the black rose

with friends like these, who needs enemies

[queen laurel]

How much damage do you think noxus will suffer if you reveal the truth to them

[sacred bluff]

I currently have access to Kamino

[arctic talon]

this imagery goes unfathomably hard

[queen laurel]

Like do they just crumble as a society

[arctic talon]

Not much

tbh

They'd take it in stride

and say they need to do better

lol

it will fundamentally damage a lot of pride about those things but Noxus is far too prideful and imperialistic to crumble from that

[sacred bluff]

Aren't we getting Arcane spinoffs

[arctic talon]

they still did take over a sizable chunk of the world without the Black Rose's interference

[arctic talon]

More like shows like arcane for other regions

[sacred bluff]

Noxus being one of them

[arctic talon]

with how much Noxus stuff Riot is pushing its 100% coming up next lol

[gray umbra]

I want to see the ionian noxus war

[arctic talon]

bro wants to get chained up and blown up

[gray umbra]

Full meijai 24-0 leblanc qw me on jhin

[queen laurel]

A fortiche style bilge water show now that's an idea i'm open

[arctic talon]

Bilgewater

is likely live action

we know Riot is fimling something

in veitnam rn

[queen laurel]

Oh come on

[arctic talon]

nothing else works geographically

[arctic talon]

not just the women, but the men and children too

I love child soldiers

[queen laurel]

Yeah they're really effective once you strap explosives on to them and throw them at the enemy

[arctic talon]

The Black Rose's child soldier mage program did not go well

one of the conservatories got fucking incinerated

the other one had all of its students ritualistically killed and their mana infused into the single remaining student

the second one is considered a success

[queen laurel]

Was Anne the culprit on that one

[arctic talon]

Yes Annie burned down the entire building

[queen laurel]

Yeah i remembered distinctly the card art

Incinerated the entire thing

[arctic talon]

or rather Tybaulk did

not Annie

[queen laurel]

Also what the f*** is tibers

[arctic talon]

a Demon of something mordekaiser bound to a human

and then eventually got bound into a teddy bear

[queen laurel]

Okay and that's where

Annie gets the ability to shoot fireballs?

And stuff

[arctic talon]

No

she's a mage

she can just do that

[queen laurel]

does the bear enhance h ler power?

[arctic talon]

she's considered a prodigy

no Tibbers/Tybaulk is a protector

lol

or rather has no choice but to protect her as of now

he can't manipulate her like he did to his past hosts/owners

The bear is just a horrifying flame creature

that likes murdering people

[queen laurel]

So you're telling me this little thing has you know all the powers that she needs but she just carries a trump card the that she can throw out which is a demonic fire bear that can tear monsters apart with ease

[arctic talon]

and causing horrific burns

[arctic talon]

I mean it wasn't hers(technically)

it was her mothers

and then her mothers, fathers, and then her fathers...... ect.

[queen laurel]

Why does she keep it around anyway

She has the fire power to incinerate a group of soldiers

[arctic talon]

because

its her teddy bear

and she's like

10 lol

[queen laurel]

I guess the cinematic also explains it

Everything got burnt down

It's like the only thing she has

From her home

[arctic talon]

sorry she's 9 years old, she's a literal child, point being she isn't exactly logical

because her house burnt down, and her dad died, and her adoptive mother and her sister

ect.

lol

so like, not exactly the most logical person

[queen laurel]

Ok so does the teddy bear act as like a limiter

[arctic talon]

No

[queen laurel]

To tibers

[arctic talon]

well

yes

I guess

he's sealed inside it

[queen laurel]

So her ultimate in league is just restrained version of tibers

[arctic talon]

Tybaulk

[queen laurel]

The real one is tybaulk?

[arctic talon]

Tibbers is the nickname for Tybaulk

Tybaulk is its actual name

and it loves murdering humans lol

[queen laurel]

Okay got it but is the one you summon in league like a weaker version that is restrained

[arctic talon]

or rather burning them alive

[arctic talon]

Yes

because if its not restrained

bad things happen

[queen laurel]

Yeah like an entire building burning down

[arctic talon]

incredible

[queen laurel]

I want to know what kind of forge world level glue has the stickiness to trap a whole a** chaos marine

[winter vessel]

A rogue Trader found an STC schematic of the E6000 industrial glue

[arctic talon]

Only the best

[remote widget]

You can buy buckets of mousetrap glue in industrial volumes, im pretty sure it's got a ridiculous psi of stickiness

[queen laurel]

This thing looks like you can trap a squiggoth on it

[raven stone]

It isn’t just the glue - the floor is magnetised AND has a gravitic anomaly…

[dapper gyro]

Keep it simple

Double sided glue tape

[queen laurel]

Nah pretty sure this is just pretty strong glue

[celest dome]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-did-i-do-stan-marsh-south-park-s24e02-south-parq-gif-20870017

[rose thorn]

Weve gotten no word on idoneth so far, which means theri update is gonna be huge or its gonna be a foothero

it should be revealed thsi adepticon. tbh it should have been revealed sooner

[crystal forum]

why are they taking so long to make season 4

[opaque coyote]

they literally just ended it

[crystal forum]

invincible wiki sucks so much

[sacred ginkgo]

Is it locked to fandom

[crystal forum]

yes but it's even worse

they made a wiki for the show and a wiki for the comics

[opaque coyote]

I think the wiki is just for imagecomics

[crystal forum]

that's the third one

[opaque coyote]

fucking kill me

[crystal forum]

there's 3 fucking wikis

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[sacred ginkgo]

Oh so everything has an annoying ass disambiguation redirect?

[crystal forum]

if they even bothered

[opaque coyote]

"Mr. President, a third Invincible wiki has been released."

[crystal forum]

and they seem to only update the comic wiki when the show gets a season. i wanted to peek at immortal's future and i know for a fact in the comics his last appearance isn't when he retires in the show

[opaque coyote]

tbf The Immortal doesn't deserve a full wiki page

Bummortal

[crystal forum]

i like him

his story is cool

his powers would suck in a regular marvel or DC universe where everybody's a fucking demi god who's seen the birth of the universe

but he's cool in the self contained invincible world

it's a shame that his immortality is just a plot device to get somebody from the original crew who can survive omni man

[opaque coyote]

I honestly think that his character doesn't fit his story.

Like you'd think living for hundreds of years would give him like

any type of wisdom

or at least referencing an old thing

[crystal forum]

thousands

[opaque coyote]

like in the conflict where the team members leave Cecil, he could've referenced how as a leader in a war, he had to make tough decisions.

[crystal forum]

the comic wiki says he has a lot of strategic military experience to count back on but like all he does is fist people

[opaque coyote]

Like "As Lincoln, I had to speak with people I didn't like."

That type of shit

[crystal forum]

honestly that's funny as shit

cecil, i was the god damn president of the united states once

[opaque coyote]

Again I just think that's poor writing.

[crystal forum]

i can retire if i want

[opaque coyote]

He supposedly was a military leader and yet doesn't show it

[crystal forum]

you're right

i dont think he would be any different if he didn't have that long ass history

if he only gained his powers a decade prior

[arctic talon]

Image comics is the best one for the actual comics lol

[crystal forum]

i feel like he's supposed to represent something

humanity or something

[crystal forum]

so he does appear after the season 3 point of the comics right

[opaque coyote]

I mean the problem with humanity is that we have relatively short collective memories

However, he fucking doesn't, he's literally immortal

[crystal forum]

nah i meant when he fights omni man in front of everybody

everybody clearly realizes that's fucked

[opaque coyote]

I think Cecil represents "humanity" more in terms of effort tbh

[arctic talon]

It’s different from the comics

[opaque coyote]

He tries out fucking everything against him.

[arctic talon]

He doesn’t retire until way later in the comics

[crystal forum]

then the comic wiki fucking sucks holy shit

[arctic talon]

Lol

[crystal forum]

it says he retires after the invincible war

did they just copy paste the show

i remember watching a video about his lore like 2 years ago because i liked him

and i remember he lives through like all events of the comics

[dusk patrol]

They’re doing things different so

Idk

But yes he does live through it all

[sacred ginkgo]

Isn’t that

The entire point

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

he could have just been discarded and forgotten about

[opaque coyote]

I wonder why nobody tried crushing his head tbh

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think I should have to explain why the Immortal

[crystal forum]

by the writer

[opaque coyote]

Like

[shell barn]

Nothing beats the Ork naming scheme and how they name themself

[dusk patrol]

He doesn’t die easily and most people can’t

[opaque coyote]

We never see anybody try if only as like a "I want to because I'm evil and shit"

[dusk patrol]

Viltrumites aren’t common

[crystal forum]

also people dont even know he can come back to life

[dusk patrol]

The fanbase treats him like a joke cause the dude exclusively fights the hardest stuff in the setting

And yeah I don’t think he died at all

Until Omniman killed him the first time

[crystal forum]

i just finished rewatching season 1 and he can hold his own man

liked he lasts a long time during the final omni man scene

[dusk patrol]

The orginal guardians in general are way way stronger in the show

[crystal forum]

and i love how he keeps on going despite his face being beat to a pulp

[dusk patrol]

People are just haters

It’s gonna be fun watching the fanbase react to some characters

[crystal forum]

he literally tries gauging out omni man's eyes as he has a hole punched through him

[dusk patrol]

We’re not even close to the biggest moral dilemmas

[sacred ginkgo]

Also, despite not watching or reading this, I agree with this heavily

[dusk patrol]

I do agreed with this though

[crystal forum]

his backstory is just pointless to the show

[dusk patrol]

It’s a common issue for long lived characters though

[sacred ginkgo]

He is older than the human concept of time

He should at least be inhumanly skilled

[dusk patrol]

He is literally the oldest being in the comic as far as we’re aware

[crystal forum]

he could have been born during that century

it would have changed nothing

[dusk patrol]

Conquest is probably “only” 5-7k years old

[crystal forum]

then again part of his character is he is slightly unhinged

and also he's literally a cave man

[dusk patrol]

The fact they showed Conk West and Thula in season 1 is kinda dope

[crystal forum]

I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE

[dusk patrol]

And yes you learn why he’s missing an arm

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I do hope we get some scenes of like

Viltrum Pre-purge

[storm jungle]

his tits are bigger than my future

[crystal forum]

wait so he was already old by then

[storm jungle]

also yeah he was

[dusk patrol]

He was born old

[storm jungle]

im like 90% sure hes older than earth itself lol

[dusk patrol]

Nah he’s not that old

At least as far as we’re aware

[crystal forum]

so the whole viltrumite eugenics thing, how long ago was that

or is that important to the story

[opaque coyote]

Fuck if we know

[dusk patrol]

At least 5000ish years iirc

The timeline isn’t clear

But he’s old.

Thula and him are the only two we see showing real signs of old age

[crystal forum]

oh i thought that was important to why there's only a handful left

[dusk patrol]

It is

But it’s not the main reason

You’ll learn why there’s so few

[crystal forum]

alright

[dusk patrol]

It’s also related to why he’s missing an arm

[crystal forum]

In a year if i'm lucky

[dusk patrol]

And his eye

Early next year yeah

[crystal forum]

i will resist spoiling myself

[opaque coyote]

Again, I genuinely wonder what Viltrum was like before they decided to do eugenics

[crystal forum]

but my guess is there's something killing viltrumites

with 0 prior knowledge

[storm jungle]

to be fair

they arent exactly the smartest species

the spartan ideals arent there just for show

[crystal forum]

also

they didn't like behead conquest right

he's just in that wall

[storm jungle]

No his entire face just got smashed in

and yeah nah his body is cemented into that

and connected to explosives

[crystal forum]

ok lmao

[opaque coyote]

Mark seems to like doing that

And it failed the last time he did so

[crystal forum]

i thought for sure they cut off his head so he wouldn't be a threat

honestly surprised they didnt try

[dusk patrol]

Bro can’t ever finish the job smh

[opaque coyote]

You see that would be the SMART thing to do

[dusk patrol]

Although I will say, Angstrom not dying is

Insanely goofy

[crystal forum]

and the connect his head to stuff to keep him alive

[opaque coyote]

Tbf he did lose like

A good chunk of his brain

[dusk patrol]

Yes that’s my point Laati

[opaque coyote]

The man is even more brain damaged

[dusk patrol]

You need that to stay alive

[crystal forum]

yakub provides

[dusk patrol]

But whatever

[opaque coyote]

Although human beings can live without a lot of their brain

Example being me-

[dusk patrol]

It’s a comic

[viral halo]

I think I'm going to start reading invincible

[opaque coyote]

Jokes aside, there does exist a case of a man like

[crystal forum]

do you think his brain is like 80% water

[opaque coyote]

Literally missing 90% of his brain

[crystal forum]

since he doesn't seem very smart for a big brain

[opaque coyote]

And I think he's actually still alive

Got a wife and kids

[dusk patrol]

Well he is insane now

[opaque coyote]

Completely normal

@dusk patrol https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3679125

So it isn't impossible

[crystal forum]

they finally studied a LoL player

[sacred bluff]

Goals

[dusk patrol]

Ok now let’s have guy who can level skyscrapers punch that

[opaque coyote]

I think he also had like

A good chunk of his brain on his back.

So that's probably the intact part

The wildest part about that 90% thing is that it's literally just

A brain tissue container holding liquid

Like it's mostly just liquid water

And he's somehow still conscious, has a wife and kids, etc.

[crystal forum]

also that guy's brain isn't missing it's apparently compressed by the growing amount of water in his head. it's all there just very squished

he 7zip himself

which is extremely weird on its own right

[raven stone]

Orks be like:

(With no disrespect to the guy’s actual intelligence, mind you, but Ork brains are probably physically that small as well)

[opaque coyote]

https://youtu.be/lOOu3QUWJjU?si=HyyAg9SeQBJtG4x2

We live in the most boring timeline

It's sad that there wasn't a prototype at least.

Although tbf this thing would definitely cost a fortune for one

Also probably heavy as shit

On the other hand

Imagine this thing if it was made

Just

Imagine

[nocturne crest]

I did and this came to mind:

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if 40k will eventually have their own pistol/sword combo weapon at some point.

[celest dome]

Like combined Sword pistol ?

[nocturne crest]

Yeah, like this:

[storm jungle]

what in the-

😭

[celest dome]

something like that exist iirc, i'll try finding it back

[storm jungle]

daaamn

all the way from the RPGs

[nocturne crest]

Huh.

[storm jungle]

i forgot about this one lol

[celest dome]

Then you also have the Custodes stuff

[nocturne crest]

That's cool.

[dusk patrol]

Damn I wonder why this didn’t catch on

[celest dome]

Most of them are melee+ranged weapons

[dusk patrol]

It looks so practical and not prone to messing up

[nocturne crest]

Weird edit.

[dusk patrol]

I wish Custodes knives had a Glock attached to them

[nocturne crest]

It would probably be a golden gun.

[celest dome]

I don't know Custodes enough to even noticed it

[nocturne crest]

Oh damn.

[dusk patrol]

Pyrithite Spears are my favorite

[gray umbra]

I wonder if they will ever add the 1911 from dark heresy to darktide

[storm jungle]

thats rogue trader

[gray umbra]

Shiiiiit

Fakefan

[storm jungle]

get him guys

[hallow saddle]

oh sheeeit i didnt even realise the fucking swords had a gun in them and thatsd why theyre so chunky

[dusk patrol]

How

That’s

That’s literally their whole thing

[hallow saddle]

the spears etc i knew

[dusk patrol]

Fake fans smh

[celest dome]

Now if you want to wager if we could have a melee weapon with a gun attached in it.
Yes.

[hallow saddle]

idk ive even played with my mates custodes army a bunch haha

the swords just always looked goofy

[dusk patrol]

I’ll always love gunblade weapons

[languid meadow]

custodes pole weapons are peak and I will hear no slander

[hallow saddle]

i like the axes the most they kick ass

the spears are cool

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/gunlance-monster-hunter-wilds-gif-8166238078126899647

[hallow saddle]

the swords, still goofy even knowing about the gun now

[dusk patrol]

I just like the movement ideas

[young pecan]

||The skin cancer laden veterans with PTSD in Eisenhorn ||

[dusk patrol]

Like flicking your sword around and firing at someone or stabbing and gifting a volley into them

[celest dome]

Gunblade I don't like much, but gun spear just fit

[young pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/120889695658967041/1347259997653958766/twitter_1897543465661087927.gif

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-insect-glaive-wilds-spin-gif-8264611257075568413

[storm jungle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if you could replace the flamer with a lasgun in the 3rd image.

[young pecan]

Love me Insect Glaive

Love me spinny

Love me bug

Simple as

[celest dome]

What for though
Chain and Flames are the main component of Zealots

[nocturne crest]

For getting those heretics who are further away

[gray umbra]

Dont imperial guard cavalry units have something like that

[young pecan]

Unfortunate that the saw is way shorter than the barrel

Can't rev into and shoot at the same time

[nocturne crest]

Quick off topic question, but were the Deathwatch prevented from taking the firestrike servo-turret in their codexes?

[dusk patrol]

Maybe you can’t

[celest dome]

Only thing they have a Hunting lances (with active charges) and Power Sabers

[storm jungle]

No reason.

its tabletop related

[dusk patrol]

Unfortunately we have no idea since no one has ever brought the Firestrike turret

[storm jungle]

if its required for a mission they can just get one

[nocturne crest]

That's thing. No one seems to have model one for the Deathwatch.

[storm jungle]

Again.

[dusk patrol]

Also, Dilara misread the question

[storm jungle]

Tabletop related.

[dusk patrol]

Point and laugh

[nocturne crest]

The only colours I've seen it in are Ultramarines and Imperium fists.

[celest dome]

mod abuse

[dusk patrol]

I don’t have it on hand but yeah they probably can’t, not sure

But also no one like it so

Just cause it doesn’t get done much doesn’t prove much, I don’t see them much ever

Outside of memes or people wanting to fuck around

[storm jungle]

the fact that thing even flies is hilarious tbh

like, just make it a normal gun emplacement, why are you guys like this

[dusk patrol]

And they put a Techmarine on it

[storm jungle]

its prob one of the dumbest primaris models ever

and like... its just a turret

[dusk patrol]

I do not care for it

But it is a funny meme

[storm jungle]

I remember when someone actually told me how it moves

i think i thought i misread it

😭

anyway 50.cals are cool so it gets a pass

mostly

[dusk patrol]

Just put a serf on it come on guys

[storm jungle]

if i ever wrote a 40k book and had to put this thing in it

id make it a techmarine POV excerpt where hes just

"All that training on Mars,"

"And I get put on this thing."

[celest dome]

Techmarine PoV: "Why have the Techpriest even uncovered this piece of junk."

[gray umbra]

I can create all this cool shit but all they want from me is to shoot this turret

[storm jungle]

bro picked the wrong class

skill issue

[dusk patrol]

The main thing I’ll say is it makes some sense for defensive holds or whatever, but man it’s hard to use it in a game

[storm jungle]

It looks neat, thats about it

like again its a gun emplacement

its not exactly much going for it

[dusk patrol]

It’s not even that bad on the TT funnily enough

[storm jungle]

yeah im mostly talking for looks

i think it would be cooler if it was like some anti-grav platform or something since primaris love that

and it would make sense why a techmarine is on it for it, but like again no biggy

[dusk patrol]

Or legs

[storm jungle]

guh-

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/wild-wild-west-sunset-ride-off-the-end-spider-gif-22383228

[storm jungle]

posting a Wild Wild West gif in 2025 is crazy

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/loveless-wild-west-wildwildwest-gif-13709821

[sacred bluff]

That movie slapped

[spring cairn]

based

you mean based

[nocturne crest]

I think it would have worked better if the front legs connected with a rounded shape, like the AAT from star wars.

[nocturne crest]

Actually, why can only techmarines use it?

[arctic talon]

No, people just hate the thing lol

[arctic talon]

Most vehicles and such in the marine arsenal are best piloted by a tech marine

[nocturne crest]

Ah.

[raven stone]

…do Spyrer suits actually have helmets?

I mean, granted, Necromunda takes place mostly planetside

But in the event someone is lucky enough to use the suit in a Void situation…

[storm jungle]

Considering we got artwork of both top/bottom headwear segments Id say its not really out of the question

its just the usual case of "gotta display mini features"

[raven stone]

Interesting, thanks.
It’s probably going to be a fusion of the bug eyed visors and the rebreather

[storm jungle]

Yeah really it doesnt matter.

Haera's suit is an entirely madeup Mark for example

so go nuts lol

[viral halo]

snore chat

[young pecan]

I am a feared (socially outcasted) creatured of the night (second shifter),, fear me

[median star]

have spyker suits ever been seen outside of necromunda

[storm jungle]

They are necromunda only

but the lore does say they can appear off-world so its not really out of the question, its mostly keeping it in tiptop shape among other stuff that makes it difficult since its very high-tec

[median star]

how would someone in spyrer fair against someone in like reg sister of silence tier power armor better worse equal

[storm jungle]

Depends on whos writing really

Spyers got some real bullshit tech

[crystal forum]

consider the fact that necromunda gets shit on by a single poorly hidden blood angel

[hallow plover]

Nice Defiler

[young pecan]

Do we know why some of the Cadians in spess muhreen 2 were being executed by a commissar?

Deserters?

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

also "betraying their brothers and sisters" which can literally mean anything like showing cowardice or being "weak"

[storm jungle]

It doesnt get "shit on", theres a lot of things on Munda that can kill a marine lol

Vandoth just wanders around doing whatever the fuck he wants

he just cant die like all the bounty hunters because hes a named character

[crystal forum]

consider this:

[young pecan]

True that

[crystal forum]

silence dilara

this is a library

[storm jungle]

Im the Munda expert here

[young pecan]

Even if the Cadians were probably muh representation I really enjoyed their existence in the game

[storm jungle]

you will silence yourself fool

[storm jungle]

they are the posterboy guard regiment so it adds up

[young pecan]

I like that any time you kill the nids fast enough to save some of them, that action is acknowledged

At least for the times that I could do it

[storm jungle]

yeah they are pissweak sometimes

[crystal forum]

child, you were enjoying cadians while i was enjoying extremely niche ancient guard models

which were somehow in the game

[storm jungle]

what do you consider "ancient"

[young pecan]

Correction

[crystal forum]

like the arm loader sentinel

[storm jungle]

[young pecan]

I enjoyed that the Cadians needed me

Even if they're overhyped and I hate seeing Lemon Russes everywhere

[median star]

now they need a planet

[crystal forum]

there werent enough leman russes the fuck you on

we see one in action

[young pecan]

There were enough for me to feel like there were too many

Which is a relatively small bar to clear but still

[crystal forum]

why

it's the guard

they spam things

also leman russes are cool

dont make me shank you

[dusky scroll]

Is innovation in Imperium completely stunted? Aside from Cawl making Primaris Marine stuff?

[young pecan]

I have Russtled the Leman enjoyer

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[crystal forum]

i am the biggest guard fan in this cursed place

i will defend all their vehicles

[young pecan]

Fr though I just think it's funny when characters acknowledge that specific variant of tank often

Two missions in Darktide, you start by walking past some

[crystal forum]

which variant

[young pecan]

Characters comment on it

[crystal forum]

the demolisher

[rose thorn]

i wonder why 40k doenst take more advantage of genetic modifciation

well

i guess uisng xenos genes for genetic modificaiotns is heresy

[crystal forum]

executioner is plasma

dont mix it with exterminator

or i will shank again

[rose thorn]

actually i dotn think admech would believe in evolution-

[young pecan]

There are different Lemons?

[crystal forum]

yes

[young pecan]

Slightly redeems them

[crystal forum]

punisher

vanquisher

[young pecan]

What do they all do?

[crystal forum]

different main weapon

some are also just weird like the destroyer

cut down leman russ with a rare tank destroyer laser in it

no turret

wait no this is fake and gay

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/1/1d/Destroyer_Tank_Hunter_0.png/revision/latest?cb=20120128222100

this is the forge world one

there's also no longer made ones like the conquerer

[opaque coyote]

They do

[crystal forum]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/3/3a/Leman_Russ_Conqueror-0.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171117163121

[opaque coyote]

Going from flesh to metal for them is essentially the next step

[crystal forum]

coaxial storm bolter

[opaque coyote]

In general it seems that 40k has two main tech trees

"Psyker bullshit"

And

"Metal bullshit"

[young pecan]

With how many worlds are in Imperial control, do you think there's someone who's jury-rigged a cybertruck-esque Leman Russ

[crystal forum]

my favorite variant is the gryphonne IV vanquisher

stupidly long barrel

the model is ridiculous

[opaque coyote]

Necrons are fully into the metal BS category but ignore the Psychic BS.

Eldar are the opposite. All their shit is made out of psychic bullshit.

Except the Deldar. Although they can't use half of their tech because it requires psychic bs, which they don't have anymore

[crystal forum]

the lexi mentions a leman russ with legs so at this point im ready to believe in anything

[opaque coyote]

Humanity is a jack of all trades.

Orks are uhhhhhh- just a big question mark tbh.

T'au are mostly metal bullshit with zero psychic bullshit.

[young pecan]

I can't fathom how some people have a low enough media comprehension that they think getting kidnapped by drukhari would be kinky and fun

[opaque coyote]

Do people actually think that. I thought most people say that as like a joke

[young pecan]

I thought that too but one time someone wasn't kidding about it

They were posting about it like the average Slaanesh fan posts about it

Which is also like

[crystal forum]

i know several people who would enjoy dark eldar

[young pecan]

ANOTHER terrible one to be kidnapped by, and will not go how you want it to

[opaque coyote]

Like Slaaneshi/Deldar Vanilla "sex" is essentially Hellraiser

They would probably stab their privates with a knife similar to how people like

Fidget with a pencil

[young pecan]

Doohickeys that do acupuncture to your genitals

Just to feel something

[opaque coyote]

Nah they'd do like

Double ended needles

Stab their own to stab yours

Well if they're Slaaneshi. Deldar are less masochistic

[young pecan]

And them also forgetting that Slaanesh is supposed to be excess, not horny excess

"So er hem,, hehe what are we doing ladiesz"

"Testicular torsion"

[opaque coyote]

Honestly Slaanesh is probably the most horrifying considering the fact that I have similar problems with perfectionism

Like I don't fucking stab people with the Throngler or something but I do genuinely struggle with failure at times

And Slaanesh basically represents that

Could apply to a lot of things really.

[opaque coyote]

I did think about like

A fashion designer turning to Slaanesh purely because

A) shit person
B) Imperium fashion is boring for her.

So she turned to Slaanesh to have the capability to create some new, colorful clothes.

Dresses made out of skin, elegantly dyed with T'au blood.

That type of shit

[young pecan]

That's true actually

Making frills out of paper-thin skin pieces

Would be kinda fire for a champion of Slaanesh

[opaque coyote]

Slaanesh does have a couple of interesting champions in general.

I think there's a Daemon and Human couple

That fused together completely in a sort of symbiotic thing

[young pecan]

Cute almost

[opaque coyote]

Reminder: If a Daemon can get love, so can you

[opaque coyote]

It's interesting that every Daemon is essentially their own individual.

Just with

Inclinations

Jokes aside, it does really make me wonder what the fuck their daily lives are like

[young pecan]

At the dinner table
"R'lekith, can you please pass the eldar tongue"

My favorite daemon so far, even if I don't know many, has to be Ku'gath

The nurgling who ate the best batch of grandfather's soup and turned into an Unclean One

He constantly strives to make the best plague possible to repay Nurgle

[opaque coyote]

I think my favorite scene is when an Emperor's children politely asked a Daemonette they could kill themselves and they were like

"Such a gentleman~ sure!"

Lemme find the excerpt

[arctic talon]

Fighting a lot for lesser daemons

Mostly other daemons

Horrors and such do librarian work

Poxwalkers count

Bloodletters train and develop strategies

Daemonettes do

[opaque coyote]

[Excerpt] Apothecaries defeat a daemonette by being polite

From Fabius Bile: Primogenitor. Context: two apothecaries, Oleander and Arrian (both allies of Fabius Bile) are clearing daemons out of the ship following a particularly gnarly time in the warp.

He and Arrian slid their helmets into place as the daemon vaulted to the deck with a high-pitched laugh. It had decided to make a stand. It was a tall thing, slim and lithe. Milky white skin stretched across birdlike bones, and a harness of human flesh and bone provided a token modesty. The daemonette was a gossamer thing, too soft to be real. ‘Hello, sweetlings,’ it moaned, opening its arms as if to welcome the stumbling pack into its embrace. Its voice sent a warm thrill through Oleander. The courtiers of the Prince of Pleasure were deadly things, however fragile they looked.

It spun suddenly, claws snapping, honeyed voice raised in song. Mutants stopped and stared, caught up in the song. The delicate claws snapped shut on necks and limbs, severing heads and hands and feet. It whirled, dancing atop the growing pile of bodies, its song swelling. A mutant stumbled back, flamer dripping fire, promethium sloshing in the tanks on its back. A claw caught the fuel line and tore it loose. The explosion rocked the corridor. Oleander hunched forward as the flames washed over him. The optic lenses of his helmet darkened to compensate for the sudden light. Sensors pinpointed the daemonette as it danced towards him through the flames.

Claws slammed into his shoulders, forcing him back. A face wreathed in a fiery halo pressed itself against the front of his helmet, black eyes wide and unblinking. A tongue pierced by numerous barbs of bone and turquoise slithered across rebreather hoses and the vox-grille. ‘Oleander,’ the daemonette crooned. ‘They will appear in the north, Oleander. Beware.’

[arctic talon]

things

[young pecan]

Are daemons and such like many outsiders in D&D where they need to be killed in their home domain or else they come back or does being killed just kill them?

[arctic talon]

They can’t be killed

Except via very specific means

[opaque coyote]

Oleander grabbed the creature’s burning hair and jerked it back. ‘My thanks, lady. But I do not think that message is meant for me.’ The daemonette shrieked and laughed. ‘Not yet,’ it said. ‘But soon.’ A hoof flashed, catching him in the midsection. He bent forward and the daemonette flipped backwards. Its hooves struck the far wall and it crouched there, head turning. It spotted Arrian and licked its cheek. ‘Would you like to know what lies your teacher told you?’

‘Not especially,’ Arrian said. A falax blade snapped out, but a claw intercepted it. The daemonette bent at an impossible angle and drove its free claw into the World Eater’s side. Ceramite cracked and Arrian stumbled. The daemonette wrapped itself about him like a snake.

‘Won’t you, oh won’t you walk with me?’ it sang. It caught his throat with its claws. Arrian fell backwards, his arms pinned to his sides by its legs.

Oleander hesitated, but only for a moment. He recovered his sword and raised it over his head. ‘My lady, might I escort you from this harsh realm?’

The daemonette rotated its head on its swanlike neck. It tittered and bowed its head. ‘Make it hurt,’ it purred. Oleander’s sword fell, chopping through unnatural flesh and bone. The body began to dissolve as Arrian fought his way free.

‘Do you normally ask permission before you kill something?’

‘Good manners go a long way in the Eye,’ Oleander said, helping the other Apothecary to stand. ‘Especially when it comes to the servants of the Prince of Pleasure.’

[arctic talon]

Daemons are like demons in dnd

Aka they can’t really die

Aside from very very out there cases

[opaque coyote]

Emperor's sword

[arctic talon]

Significantly strong Psyker

Can also do it

But it’s extremely draining and often lethal

Fighting demons in the warp is a horrible idea because they’ll just respawn

And be ready to go

[storm jungle]

As long as you dont get caught its fine

(this happens a lot)

[arctic talon]

Don’t get caught, lie, be very vague

Also

Make sure that it won’t get noticed by your rivals

If you aren’t powerful

[young pecan]

That's awesome

[opaque coyote]

"This new Lasgun Pattern? I found it in an STC fragment!"

"...why do I have 1,000,000 ready to go? Uhhhhhh- it was there with the fragment!"

[young pecan]

Some good Slaanesh representation

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsey-food-finally-some-good-fucking-food-master-chef-gif-17833684

[crystal forum]

you can modify shitty stuff like lasguns

[arctic talon]

Also yeah

Making something new

From existing tech is common

See like

[crystal forum]

unless you're like some random guard guy

[arctic talon]

All 20 million things spawned from the kantreal pattern lasgun

[storm jungle]

Also depends.

Some look down on it some dont

[arctic talon]

Daemonettes are probably the most “pleasant” daemons to be around

Lol

[storm jungle]

you are usually advised to ask a techpriest

[arctic talon]

Which is that they can talk

And hold a conversation

Poxwalkers are too obsessed with counting

[crystal forum]

i feel like if they will look down on it it's because mechanicus wants all the credit for themselves

[arctic talon]

Horrors are literally insane due to being 8+ minds shoved into one

Bloodletters are too obsessed with war

[crystal forum]

reminder that slaanesh demons emit musk

and it disorients you

totally straight faction

[arctic talon]

I’d still rather talk to a daemonette out of all 4 lesser daemons

Lol

Even if it’s like the 2nd most likely to kill me

[vagrant fox]

2% chance I could convince a bloodletter to lift with me

I have a World Eaters icon around here somewhere

[young pecan]

Daemonettes are always Slaanesh, right?

I assumed that just meant female daemons but it seems like they're only of Slaanesh

Not like gender really matters to daemons anyway, lmao

[arctic talon]

Daemonettes are always slaanesh yes

its a specific type of lesser daemon

They're also not always female or androgenous looking

[young pecan]

Makes sense

Aren't daemons of any kind kinda just different manifestations of any of the emotions caught in the warp?

Or how does that work

[storm jungle]

they are a part of their god essentially

they just split and form off of them

some can be daemons without any specific form but most adhere to the class system you see on tabletop

[rose thorn]

Slaanesh greater demons are specifically both sexes if you care about That

[storm jungle]

😭

[rose thorn]

It’s called something specific but I forgot

[young pecan]

Hermaphroditism?

[rose thorn]

The in lore thing

Not the irl thing

[young pecan]

Ohh

[rose thorn]

No there’s some gift of Slaanesh

[young pecan]

Like they can swap their form or?

[rose thorn]

No

They are always both at the same time

[young pecan]

Huh

[young pecan]

That makes sense

[storm jungle]

"Shem" but thats like ancient lore

and pretty oudated and bad imo

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

daemonettes are androgenous

[young pecan]

I would assume that means the emotions related to that class of god are what makes them split off from their god and form

[arctic talon]

prolly

[rose thorn]

OH NO ITS WORSEEE

The gift of Slaanesh is called

Hermaphrodite

[arctic talon]

thats a real thing

isn't it

[rose thorn]

Hermaphrodite - the gifted becomes like Slaanesh, having both genders with a single breast; they assume a disturbingly attractive form but are ultimately sexless, and gender differences become irrelevant to them.[8]

Yeha but it’s like, a slur irl

[vagrant fox]

yea but not really as depicted

[storm jungle]

it is but like its kinda bad

[young pecan]

Yep

[arctic talon]

okay well not that

[arctic talon]

I c

[storm jungle]

^

[young pecan]

I thought that was just the scientific name for it

[vagrant fox]

I thought it was just the medical term

[rose thorn]

I thoguht they called it something different in lore

But nope

[young pecan]

What is the name for it that isn't a slur?

[vagrant fox]

I suppose intersex is the more modern term, but I don't really keep up with these things

[outer wave]

Yeah I always thought hermaphrodite was just referring to a biological creature with both male and female parts

[storm jungle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/biology/comments/15g45i1/why_is_the_term_hermaphrodite_considered/

this one top answer kinda says it best

long form of it tho obviously because doctor reply

[vagrant fox]

I'm so often tempted to refer to it as congenital eunuchs but I reckon that'd be somewhat more rude

[sacred bluff]

It is, but people don't say it (most of the time) in any sort of scientific sense

[storm jungle]

I mean a eunuch isnt really a gender

[sacred bluff]

Almost always derogatory

[storm jungle]

also that yeah

[vagrant fox]

It's just a old backwards term for the same thing

[storm jungle]

Ehhh i wouldnt say so really

[outer wave]

Ah gotcha, its about how the context is used

[outer wave]

Mhm

[storm jungle]

eunuchs never really consider themselves feminine

they are almost always "i lost my cock and balls and i will make the world pay for it"

see ancient china

20000000 dead

[outer wave]

Emperor Jin Xiaochang loses his favorite courtesan out of 152 courtesans
30 billion people die
40 billion men become eunuchs

[storm jungle]

and they are also somehow ALWAYS responsible

[arctic talon]

Euncehs

The most powerful backstabbers

[vagrant fox]

I like that one guy who just said he was a eunuch and proceeded to do the chinese empress full on adult style

Powerful move

[young pecan]

Seduction or cringe style?

[vagrant fox]

full on lovers

[young pecan]

Awesome

[vagrant fox]

they lovingly had two children

[young pecan]

We love to see it

However I can only imagine that ending in tragedy

[vagrant fox]

Absolutely, as anything did in Imperial China

[young pecan]

"(blank) takes power, ~20 trillion dead"

[outer wave]

How the hell did they have children

[arctic talon]

The eunech presumably didn't get castrated

[raven stone]

No no no, you got the quote wrong.
“This is library.”
No “a”, very important.

[arctic talon]

and they were a "eunech"

[outer wave]

Most likely yeah

[crystal forum]

what

[raven stone]

…nevermind.
Lack of sleep brain, not thinking good lol.

[vagrant fox]

Yes he just lied about it, or falsified it. As you do

[nocturne crest]

So odd question, but is there any space marines chapters, apart from the wolves, that have a unique colour scheme for tech marines.

Like, not red.

[vagrant fox]

Iirc Iron Hands, Grey Knights and occasionally Black Templars just stick to chapter colours for the most part

Grey Knights do a red shoulder I think

[arctic talon]

tech marines sometimes use the color of the forgeworld they were trained at

rather then red

[late osprey]

DUUUDE

the show is gonna be awesome

[tough haven]

I dont think this is real lol

[late osprey]

can we get steve buscemi as roboute guilliman?

[tough haven]

I think its the joke of how jack black is in everything because he's jack black

even if the role doesnt fit

[grim bolt]

@raven stone

you helped me with the like project druid thing for my HB world, I had some extra thoughts for the setting

I imagine Khorvusia originally sent psykers onto the black ships and then the Inquistion was like "wait a ksarkin' minute! all the psykers from khorvusia are like, basically immune to daemonic control even if they are weaker, we can exploit this!'

so not, instead of sending psykers to the black ships, khrovusia sends their psykers to the inquisition for them to be trained in a variety of warp based abilities to aid the inquisition directly

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

If I lost my cock and balls

I would 100% want to see the world burn

[arctic talon]

Tbf

They made the choice

To cut off their balls

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-to-fight-eric-cartman-kyle-broflovski-stan-marsh-kenny-mccormick-gif-22317069

Protect my bawls

[sharp pollen]

buy a servitor
look inside
they forgot to lobotomize him

[arctic talon]

Based

[raven stone]

…why on Earth does the Warhammer Community website keep borking?
Or does it just hate IPads?

[raven stone]

Could be discovered during an Inquisition census of the planet…

[opaque coyote]

You think there are servitor conventions?

I mean there's cons for everything

Anime, computers, comics

You think tech priests have a Servitor con

Show off your custom made servitors

[dapper gyro]

That's a sound idea!

@opaque coyote Would you like to be my first... servitor?

[opaque coyote]

Nope already am one

Sorry you are not my maker

Go to Mars Manufactorum #2919119 if you have any queries

[dapper gyro]

Serve your master well, servitor.

[shadow plover]

Move your ERP to the appropriate channels

[grim bolt]

ye that makes senes

'hmmm, notably stable psykers, how can we exploit this for specikfically our ordo because we have control of the planet and its space marines hmmm'

[late osprey]

the main usecase for stable but mediocre psykers would surely be for astropaths

when they're both directly seen in SM2 and in RT, they really seem to be valued for quantity over quality

always in high demand, never enough of them

[arctic talon]

No such thing as too many astropaths tbh

Especially since they tend to die young

[late osprey]

exactly, the fuckers are burning out like lightbulbs all the time

and this means if there were a planet that could actually provide lots of astropaths, the planet's masters could get very wealthy very quickly

[crisp heath]

Gonna start my first play through of rouge trader thinking of making a psyker still unsure tho

[late osprey]

objectively psykers are goofy overpowered in RT

but obviously it creates a different roleplay

[crisp heath]

I struggle w the combat in those style of games so that would not be a bad thing for me tbh

[late osprey]

yeah they definitely can make combat trivial, but i would say even on normal difficulties you'll be fine as a non-psyker

its just the most BS overpowered builds all involve a psyker start

[arctic talon]

Officer and Psyker

Are the 2 game Breakers

Just don’t run both at once on the same character imo

[queen laurel]

yeah every class in this game has the capability to be a monster but psykers and officers?

[late osprey]

man i wanna play RT but im still waiting for the DLC

[arctic talon]

Officers break other people

[raven stone]

Sometime June or July since it is Spring this year

[arctic talon]

Psykers are just broken

Lul

[queen laurel]

an officer will turn you into a killing machine a psyker is a killing machine

[raven stone]

I actually prefer no psyker runs. Hate psy phenomenons.

[late osprey]

one of these days i'll be a chaos psyker-warrior for the funsies

[raven stone]

Cassia Officer

[late osprey]

ive never played a psyker RT but all the builds and mechanics discussions are essentially "psyker or GTFO"

[raven stone]

The TRUE broken build

Cassia is like a psyker with none of the downsides.

[late osprey]

i think the top build is actually executioner heinrix with a chainsaw

[raven stone]

(Admittedly not the Trader themselves)

[queen laurel]

her powers are funny

[arctic talon]

Cassia is broken on her own

But the funny pyromancer Psyker melee tank

Is hilarious

[late osprey]

also i want a transmog thingy for RT

all the other owlcat games have one

[arctic talon]

I agree

[raven stone]

You have…

• flamer stare of death.
• sniping stare of death.
• Psy phenomenon reductions.
• Officer arc types.
• Charm tests off the charts

[arctic talon]

Also tbh executioner and bladedancer are both

Quite overtuned

[late osprey]

executioner specifically is nuts as i understand it

[arctic talon]

Me watching Kibellah do 1 million damage

[late osprey]

but the idea of a bladedancer RT will never not be funny to me

[raven stone]

Kibellah, the other super unit.
Slashing everything in her path twice

[late osprey]

kibellah getting introduced with her awesome kit and everything and your RT is just like

[arctic talon]

Kibellah is a worse bladedancer then the RT

Lol

[late osprey]

"um yeah i can do that too"

also the non-kibellah human models are so squat

so them jumping around is just hilarious

[arctic talon]

Which is ironic because often companions are better then you

Yirlet is a better sniper

Argenta is a better soldier

[raven stone]

Kibellah is like a second Abelard strictly in the narrative sense.
Loyal only to you.

[queen laurel]

man im probably the only guy who plays the honest high Demo warrior vanguard

[arctic talon]

Idira is a better Psyker for output

She is not better for stability

[queen laurel]

my entire MO is that i will not die

[late osprey]

its sad that snipers outside of yrliet are usually actually crutches for low BS

[arctic talon]

But she makes things explode

[late osprey]

rather than actually rewarding high BS on their own

[arctic talon]

Yeah snipers are

Weirdly designed in RT

[late osprey]

BUT it does let me use my low-BS RT with a hunting rifle for some Lord General LARP

"Look at that thing. It'll look great on my mantleplace. Aim low, men."

[crisp heath]

Ok I'll have to chose between the two I still want there to be some element of challenge

[raven stone]

Idira summoned a bloodletter in that Slaanesh dungeon once.
I have benched her ever since.

[queen laurel]

yeah as much as it's cool to run a sniper assassin this lady exists which renders range combat a walk in the park

[raven stone]

No, I don’t care how OP she gets.

[queen laurel]

she can literally out accuracy a sniper with a single item and a bolt gun

[arctic talon]

Okay but Idira is funny

She’s the best

[raven stone]

Give her that bolter charm as well…single shots guaranteed hit

[raven stone]

I won’t deny the character is well written.

[arctic talon]

Me watching Argenta dump 500 rounds in 1 turn

[late osprey]

the real question is why to ever run her with a normal boltgun