40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

and him becoming a blood ravens champion

shit wrong universe

[dusk patrol]

And I mean

[crisp heath]

Is George ever going to actually finish this book.

[dusk patrol]

Who has a better story

[storm jungle]

Very likely not

[crisp heath]

Or is it some big April fools

[dusk patrol]

Then the crippled emotionless weird wolf fucker

[vagrant fox]

If I were him I wouldn't bother

[storm jungle]

my theory is he will release Winds but then die and we'll get the cliffnotes for the final book

but even that who knows

[crisp heath]

Tbh I kind of agree w you

[spring cairn]

he tasked me to finish them in his stead

[crisp heath]

Or he will pass before he can release it sadly

[storm jungle]

The thing is hes legit trying but also just kinda isnt. Its a bit pathetic/sad honestly

like I get that its hard to write a plot this complex as the books but its been 14 years

[vagrant fox]

There's more fun things to do, like work on Elden Ring

[dusk patrol]

He’s written like fifty other things since then

[storm jungle]

thats the most realistic part as a writer

[crisp heath]

It's hard to write something on par with those last books I don't blame him

[storm jungle]

"I should finish this homebrew"

literally does all the other homebrews

"Okay ill do for real this time"

gets distracted again

im sure most of us can relate

[dusk patrol]

I wonder what his calls with his agent must be ugh

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

"FINISH THE FUCKING BOOK"

"LEAVE ME ALONE"

[crisp heath]

"So I got a new story"

[storm jungle]

"George im quitting."

[spring cairn]

"This is queen Marika, she's always barefeet"

[storm jungle]

doesnt Elden Ring also have incest

[vagrant fox]

iirc yes

[spring cairn]

yes

[storm jungle]

based

I mean gross

[spring cairn]

somewhat

selfcest aswell

[storm jungle]

even more based

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-1506407869824367367

[vagrant fox]

Hey if I was a man and a woman I'd be up in my own business too

[storm jungle]

ya got me chat

[vagrant fox]

I know me, I get along with me

I think I'm pretty great too

[storm jungle]

the kids are gone Sigsen

your divorce was 10 years ago

[spring cairn]

they're not the same personality despite being 1 side of the same coin

[vagrant fox]

the last time i touched a woman i got up to vomit instead, and then she was gone

there never were any kids

[storm jungle]

requiem to a dream ahhh

[crisp heath]

To meet people you have to leave the house people keep telling me

[storm jungle]

awful fate

[spring cairn]

you can catch people for free in the streets and bring them back home

i've been doing that for years

[crisp heath]

Nobody wants you to know but there free

You can just take them home

[sacred bluff]

You can find love on Discord

[vagrant fox]

I do love my bro, for real for real

[crisp heath]

Oh I don't even really want love I gotta work on myself heaps before I even think about another relationship I just would like to make more freinds

[vagrant fox]

thinking about Brann riding Hodor and complaining for about three books or whatever it was, man it sucked

[crisp heath]

Hodor : (

[sacred bluff]

Hold the door...

[vagrant fox]

My memory is definitely skewed but all I remember is the idiot lame boy riding the idiot giant every four chapters complaining about how cold it is and they have no food or water and it's cold and nothing happens

not to mention tyrions stupid boat ride

[crisp heath]

This is before he goes to the tree hey

[vagrant fox]

yea

[dapper gyro]

Just looking back and seeing Dilara endorsing incest. I suggest exterminatus Turkey before it spreads.

[dusk patrol]

Delete this nephew

[sly ivy]

Bro don’t knock it til u’ve tried it

[hallow basin]

Nah, I kinda fw Pattinson as Sanguinius ngl

[storm jungle]

dem cheekbones are hitting it up

🙏

[crisp heath]

I still think pedro would make a great sanguinus bit that being said I don't know how he would look with blonde hair

I do think that Pattinson also would work

[storm jungle]

Primarchs in general require actors with very block-like faces

[crisp heath]

Yes that is true

[storm jungle]

its like casting Dolph Lundren as Ferrus

"If he Iron Hands, he Iron Hands."

https://tenor.com/view/ivan-drago-rocky-mad-boxing-gif-17252571

[crisp heath]

Honestly a 40k movie or series if it's done right would make me the happiest person

[storm jungle]

its probably never happening

[crisp heath]

I know

[storm jungle]

way too much budget, resources, etc. GW would also never really play ball

[crisp heath]

Or they would want to meticulously over see everything

[storm jungle]

I do wish they fucking said what "show" they are doing with Cavill already. If its just some CGI animation thing after all these years of waiting im gonna fucking laugh

like im not that invested in it FYI

but im just curious at this point lmao

[crisp heath]

I dont know if it will actually happen I saw it announced and was like that will be cool then moved on

[storm jungle]

Same.

The issue is people are hyping it up like we are gonna get some GoT-tier Eisenhorn show or something which I highly doubt unless GW is that confident enough to pour so much of that money into a production.

40K imo/hot take should always stick to animation

[green loom]

We will get Space Marine 2 but a TV show

[crisp heath]

I feel like gw have realised video games are able to do some really neat things so with their ip so I feel like we may just get some really good games and that's fine w me

[green loom]

Not literally space marine 2 but mind bogglingly safe boring marine slop with minimal mention of the imperium

[storm jungle]

That too lol

[storm jungle]

Space Marine 2 probably helped with that

https://tenor.com/view/cope-mald-warhammer-40k-gangnam-style-space-marine-gif-8246058212714888499

[burnt plover]

wasn't there that show/movie with a Salamander too?

I thought that was pretty good too

also imagine if Cavill ends up being like a supporting role instead of the main role

[green loom]

Pariah Nexus and an episode of Tithes

[burnt plover]

the rivers will run red

[crisp heath]

But what kind of warhammer fan is cavil

[green loom]

He's not even the main actor lol he's like... A director

[crisp heath]

We don't know yet why hype him up

[burnt plover]

cus he's Gerardo del Rivera

[green loom]

My lord Gerardo

[crisp heath]

I did really like the 1st season of the Witcher

The 2nd not so much but the forst was good

[green loom]

I really liked Foltest

[shadow plover]

https://imgur.com/a/b6cpTx3

[storm jungle]

me when I see a krieg fan

[sacred bluff]

ADMIT YOU'RE INVESTED

[crisp heath]

Oh this . This was good

[shadow plover]

correct

[burnt plover]

having read the games and played the books, ye the show was okay at the start

[storm jungle]

Never.

[burnt plover]

I just don't like watching shows

[storm jungle]

gay

[burnt plover]

nay thee

[sacred bluff]

But the amazon episode

You should watch

[crisp heath]

Secret level season 2 has a animation based on space marine 2 w Titus in it

I think it's ep 6

[sacred bluff]

Season 2

[green loom]

It was part of the first few episodes, it's only had one season.

[crisp heath]

Oops

For some reason I got my shows mixed up

[sacred bluff]

The 40k episode and Armored Core was good

[burnt plover]

did anyone watch it? what was the Concord part like?

[sacred bluff]

All the episodes were pretty good

[green loom]

I haven't seen the 2nd batch I think

They're pretty boring but really nice eye candy

[tough haven]

I’d like to watch them, but I kinda hate Amazon

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-majima-goro-majima-majima-goro-like-a-dragon-pirate-yakuza-in-hawaii-gif-1220742320280341161

[crisp heath]

arrrr

[viral halo]

Titus turning into the new john warhammer

a main character

[tough haven]

Wow, what a cool unrelated gif!

[tough haven]

It was bound to happen

[vagrant fox]

Fortunately, Titus is cool 😎 👍

[crisp heath]

it's the chaplain that I don't like

[raven stone]

Nobody likes the Chaplain...

[vagrant fox]

I do, he's funny

[raven stone]

Lol

[late osprey]

JK Simmons as Horus

[crisp heath]

I could see that

[late osprey]

Hey. Get over here. Get me pictures of the Emperor, or I'll make the Galaxy Burn.

[crisp heath]

Jason mamoa could be jagethai khan

[dapper gyro]

Vin diesel as Alpharius

[crisp heath]

Hahaha

I'm picturing this all in my head

[late osprey]

Willem Dafoe as Malcador

dude the rock as horus would go so hard

[crisp heath]

Yess

Jhon cena could be dorn 🤔

[late osprey]

no it has to be an old dude

[crisp heath]

Hm

[dapper gyro]

JCV

[crisp heath]

Jeff bridges?

Nah I feel like that's not really right for him

[dapper gyro]

jean claude van damme as Dorn

[crisp heath]

That works better

[tough haven]

Why don’t we have people on this

But oh gods they’d have so much to cut or leave out to make it movie length

[raven stone]

OK but who gets the most glorious role of Emps?

Henry Cavill?

[tough haven]

I think it should be the kind of thing where you can’t really tell who it is

[raven stone]

CGI silhouette perhaps

With multiple voice of legion

[late osprey]

morgan freeman

[vagrant fox]

Different person for each character who interacts with big e

[late osprey]

hes typecast as the divine already

[tough haven]

Actually sounds awesome

[tough haven]

Too benevolent

[raven stone]

Budget through the roof, but awesome conceptually

[late osprey]

honestly i cant think of an actor for the emperor

[crisp heath]

Morgan freeman reading the script for this

[late osprey]

for a voice i like the idea of multiple actors talking at once, they did that in Prince of Egypt

[tough haven]

It’ll never happen though

[raven stone]

OK hear me out.
Joseph Kucan as Emperor.

(Yes Kane from C&C)

[tough haven]

And if it does it’ll somehow be worse than the books

[late osprey]

well yeah but an all-star caste of HH is one of the time-honored traditions of 40k boredposting

[raven stone]

Or actually Joseph Kucan as Lorgar...

He has the panache to make Lorgar's rantings work

[late osprey]

johnny depp as konrad curze

maybe not brutal enough

[raven stone]

If only he were around

Heath Ledger as Konrad

Using Joker as base.

[late osprey]

heath ledger as konrad would be great

[crisp heath]

Micheal j fox as vulcan

[late osprey]

christopher nolan can train to be any role so he's a fill

[crisp heath]

I was just going to say that

[late osprey]

hell if you gave him enough time he could probably be emperor

[crisp heath]

And Christian bale could be sanguinus or girlyman

[late osprey]

i meant christian bale LOL

idk why i said christopher nolan

nolan would be the director, obviously

[crisp heath]

Christian bales a pretty great actor

[late osprey]

his range is ludicrosu

he can be Jacked Alpha Chad McTate (American Psycho) and an actual starving elderly cripple (Saw i wanna say?)

[rose thorn]

Hello Chat

[late osprey]

whatever the role needs to be

[crisp heath]

Daniel day Lewis : fulgrim

[queen laurel]

Hello herald of the clawed moon

[rose thorn]

Shit that’s an awesome name

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's a mixture of your two obsessions, Gloomspite gitz and GSC

[rose thorn]

On a similar note I’ve been looking at Last War

TLDR its gameplay wise necromunda theme wise world war 1 nightmare hellscape

(That released 2 years before trench crusade)

And it doenst have much lore so it’s completely up to you

I was trying to think of an idea for a squad

“I wanan do a bug themed warband but I don’t wanna just rip off nomads”

There’s vampires and shit and then i got an idea

Ww1 crimson court

[queen laurel]

Speaking of something related, I've also been obsessed with alternate history related things lmao

[rose thorn]

Ooo?

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's game I've been playing

A 1920s alternate mech game

[rose thorn]

Oooooo

That sounds fire

Is it like Scythe?

[queen laurel]

It is scythe

[rose thorn]

https://wargamesatlantic.com/cdn/shop/products/FrenchGroup1_1119x1119.jpg?v=1627934822

[queen laurel]

What else am i talking about

[rose thorn]

Oh lmao

[queen laurel]

Yeah but it's the video game set in the same setting

iron harvest

[rose thorn]

Wait

Iron harvest is in the same setting?

I have iron harvest-

[queen laurel]

Yes

Even have the same faction

Rustviet

Polania

Saxony

[rose thorn]

Tbh I didn’t notice at all lmao

[queen laurel]

Yeah in the factions for the game scythe is mentioned

In the wiki

[late osprey]

man, 40k naval lore is ABSURDLY in-depth

really have to respect that

[rose thorn]

The space navy or the literal navy?or the guard regiment

[late osprey]

i dont think there is a guard regiment or a water navy in 40k with any meaningful lore

[rose thorn]

The uh, iron guys

I forgot their name

Also the Terran navy has like no lore so that’s why I was curious

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/f/f4/Mordian_Iron_Guard_trooper.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140510073030

Iron guard

Actually, might be a different reference-

[late osprey]

that is the mordian iron guard, yeah

not super naval

[rose thorn]

This art made me think they were based off the US navy

But newer art makes me think over wise

I know nothing about military tho tbh

[crystal forum]

iron guard have nothing to do with naval in lore

they're guardsmen who wear parade uniforms to look fancy while they're shooting the imperium's enemies

[outer wave]

I love the Mordian Iron Guard

They have this snooty kind of atmosphere around them

[dapper gyro]

Napoleon army

Blue is the symbolic colour of France.

[dusk patrol]

They’re based off a mix of USMC dress blues and Napoleonic Prussian Uniforms

But yeah they’re not naval at all

They’re known for their Tank regiments and infantry, specifically urban combat

[dapper gyro]

USMC uniform was different. Also, back when they were wearing it, they were still part of the Navy.

[dusk patrol]

Their direct influence is the USMC dress blues

[crisp heath]

Prussians were a big power in tbe napoleonic era

Sorry Prusia*

[dusk patrol]

You can see this especially with their older scheme they don’t show as much anymore

They’re not a 1:1 cause nothing is but they’re definitely the core influence, with a mix of some other stuff.

[dapper gyro]

Colour shades varies greatly. The style is what I think of more.

https://forums.kitmaker.net/uploads/default/original/3X/f/9/f92b4fbada682029ca51b08226d2333e2f963533.jpeg

A collection of original WW2 US airborne uniform.

[dusk patrol]

The Prussian uniform was also a big influence on the USMC dress blues in general which is why its kinda incestuous there

[crisp heath]

I see colonial England vibes

Like the Zulu wars

[dusk patrol]

Culturally they take after that Balkan/Eastern European era of influence

But more brutal and scrappy

Add in the harsh ganger aspects and depressing nature of Mordian

[spring cairn]

there's an actual almost 1:1 regiment for that

i forgot the name

[dusk patrol]

They’re a lot of elements of them all be brutal scrappy hive scum held back by iron discipline

[crisp heath]

I think iv seen art for them

[dusk patrol]

Lots of pride while still deep down being gangsters

[crisp heath]

There the peaky blionders

The 'eaky blionda's

[dusk patrol]

I really like them

They don’t show up a ton in books but they have some fun appearances

They’re kind what people think Krieg is for real lol

The stuff they stand their ground against is actually insane

[crisp heath]

Kreigs just the expendables

[dapper gyro]

This is the 2nd time I see "incest" in this chat today.

[crisp heath]

Tbh

[dapper gyro]

WTF with you heretics.

[dusk patrol]

Both the first and second relief of Mordian has them holding disciplined lines against greater daemons and Chaos Marines and other horrors for months on end without breaking and holding out.

They also have examples of them refusing to break ranks when Death Company is accidentally unleashed on them

[crisp heath]

Jeez

[dusk patrol]

Hey it applies and works smh

[crisp heath]

Why are they charging at us sir? Sir he's calling me 'horus'

[dusk patrol]

“Shame”

Theres a very funny line in a book or short where some regiment is commenting on how shitty the weather is and how dirty everyone is after a long drawn out campaign and “somehow the damned Mordians uniforms are still spotless.”

[vagrant fox]

Mordians are fun but the name is unfortunate

[dusk patrol]

Now buzz off before I give you an up close and personal demonstration of the Mordian Groin Gounger

[arctic talon]

Imagine how obnoxious it is to keep it clean in those conditions lol

[dusk patrol]

I can’t imagine.

I need to find the passage, the way it was written it felt almost supernatural how they were staying clean

[outer wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnAwpK1jjEA Another one lads...

[median star]

so did any of the chaos gods make an aeldari greater demons or champions etc beside slaneesh

[storm jungle]

Eldar dont have demons so no

Eldar are also not dumb enough to worship chaos

they get educated on what it is their entire lives compared to the masses of humanity and other races usually

[rose thorn]

Taking bets what army the new imperium killteam will be for

[storm jungle]

wait didnt we just get Zealots

they are doing another one?

[rose thorn]

This one

[storm jungle]

tabletop =/= lore

[storm jungle]

ive seen this comparison before, Khaine isnt from the Warp

[late osprey]

also 'daemon' does not literally mean chaos creation

[storm jungle]

yeah that

[sly ivy]

Wat khaine is a warp construct

[rose thorn]

Khaine was made by frog

[storm jungle]

LOL

[rose thorn]

No?

[sly ivy]

Probably guided by old ones

[late osprey]

IIRC even legion of the damned have 'daemon' as a keyword

[sly ivy]

Yes

Old One warp construct

[storm jungle]

you are a warp construct

[sly ivy]

Under Aeldari control

What tf else is he

[rose thorn]

Khaine was a literal guy who got OTKed by Slaanesh

[late osprey]

i thought the eldar themselves at least believe their gods were in the warp

[storm jungle]

They dont, they see them in their own domains

[sly ivy]

Source liber chaotica

[storm jungle]

lmao

liber chaotica is like

[storm jungle]

extremely outdated

its older than most people in here

[sly ivy]

Canon until overridden

[storm jungle]

nope

[sly ivy]

Khaine was not a guy

[storm jungle]

Khaine was Him

you are not that guy pal

[late osprey]

liber chaotica is also in-lore written by a deranged lunatic

[sly ivy]

Aeldari gods obviously implied to be warp-based weapons

[late osprey]

and should not be taken entirely at face-value

[storm jungle]

Among many other things

[viral halo]

I see the fannon is leaking today

[storm jungle]

like how the Eldar "imagined" them into existence

[late osprey]

like when you look at the pages they're just filled with absurd scribbling

[storm jungle]

theres like 3 overlapping soruces

[rose thorn]

The eldar gods were people that walked among them, you could literlaly go and meet the like 3 living gods

[storm jungle]

simmer down you little shi-

[sly ivy]

So what were they

Aeldari?

[rose thorn]

Eldar gods that were literally there

[storm jungle]

It has 3 conflicting sources

Again.

its inconsistent

[outer wave]

Tangent question: can ogres become vampires?

[sly ivy]

And how did they get to the point where they now have avatars etc. Well the one semi ok one.

Ok but what are gods

[storm jungle]

Any living being can become a vampire in warhammer

the problem is uhhh

[sly ivy]

C’tan are “gods”

[storm jungle]

most vamps would look at an ogre

and go

[sly ivy]

Daemons and chaos gods are gods

[storm jungle]

"you are ugly as fuck"

[rose thorn]

In AOS yes theoretically

[storm jungle]

The problem is they are ugly

[rose thorn]

There’s an aelf and duardin vampire

[storm jungle]

💅

[sly ivy]

The Yncarne is literally a warp being

[outer wave]

You're telling me not one of those nobles would have a weird thing for ogres and go "Yeah, would."?

[storm jungle]

GUH-

[sly ivy]

The Avatar of Khaine is warp powered

[storm jungle]

Again.

for the 3rd time

[rose thorn]

I don’t think we know what yncarne is

[storm jungle]

conflicting theories

[outer wave]

Amazing

[storm jungle]

the eldar mythology is a fucking mess

[sly ivy]

There’s a limited number of elements in 40K cosmology

If aeldari gods aren’t warp beings then they’re aliens or machines.

[storm jungle]

There really isnt

[rose thorn]

Gw punishing their workers by making them write Eldar lore;

[storm jungle]

40k cosmology is like

a fucking soup of nonsense writers add/remove elements from weekly

[dusk patrol]

I don’t think it’s that controversial to say the Eldar gods are warp beings

[storm jungle]

I mean it isnt

[sly ivy]

Nah it’s more consistent than that except on the fringes

[storm jungle]

im saying theres also other sources saying different stuff

[sly ivy]

Fucking thank you

[dusk patrol]

Or were I guess mostly

[sly ivy]

They may be ascended mortals

Or have whatever some weird old one material elements

[rose thorn]

What was that craft world that literlaly can’t move?

[sly ivy]

But a lot of them is made of warp

[rose thorn]

That’s like a mile away from the eye of terror

[sly ivy]

Cite

Cite sources

[rose thorn]

Crack open a post 7th edition Eldar codex

[sly ivy]

Ya

[storm jungle]

late reply

[sly ivy]

Ya

[storm jungle]

This coming from the guy saying liber chaotica is a good source is crazy 💀

Anyway its from the Path books, the awful Ynnari stuff and also things like Czevak's novels

[sly ivy]

Still waiting for excerpt or page number

[storm jungle]

(which i dont think anyone has read)

[late osprey]

liber chaotica is a kickass source, let's get one thing straight here

[storm jungle]

No lol

im legit like

[late osprey]

its great for what an in-universe lunatic would say about chaos

[storm jungle]

not in the mood to open a 300 page pdf

and search a sentence

sorry lmao

[rose thorn]

This isn’t a genders study argument this is warhammer

[sly ivy]

Instant debate loss

[dusk patrol]

How are we arguing if the Eldar gods were warp beings

What is there to dispute

[sly ivy]

I don’t know!!!

[storm jungle]

Nobody is disputign anything

what is this debate

💀

[rose thorn]

[sly ivy]

What do people think they are, robots?

[storm jungle]

Maybe you are a robot

[sly ivy]

I mean they could be weird old one robots

[dusk patrol]

Then what are you arguing about

[sly ivy]

No I’m too stupid

[storm jungle]

ROBOTS?

[sly ivy]

Robots are smart

[storm jungle]

You'd know

[late osprey]

there's more to supernatural concepts than just the warp

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

And don’t say “I don’t know”

[late osprey]

thats probably where the murkiness is

[vagrant fox]

[storm jungle]

Anyway what is this convo

[sly ivy]

No the warp literally encompasses all the supernatural shit in 40K

[storm jungle]

Kaggen changed topics like 4 times 💀

[rose thorn]

Hey guys what everyone’s favorite environments mentioned in warhammer lore

[late osprey]

what do you guys think Incubi will do when they run out of Aspect Warriors to kill?

will they just quit being incubi?

[sly ivy]

Even C’tan operate by controlling natural processes

[rose thorn]

I really like that desert that’s so fine it’s a sand ocean in AOS

[storm jungle]

Antakya Hive on terra

🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷

it gets bombed by foreigners

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[storm jungle]

I mean uhhh imperials

[late osprey]

"Every aspirant must then kill an Aspect Warrior of the Eldar Craftworlds in single combat, shatter their quarry's precious Soul Stone and rebuild it into a psychic torture device known as a Tormentor. After that, the aspirant can be considered an Incubus."

[sly ivy]

Yes one for each of my fingers and toes (I can only count to 3)

[sly ivy]

Lmaoooo

[storm jungle]

God that lore is so funny

"go kill an aspect warrior"

LITERALLY WHERE

mission impossible ahhh

[rose thorn]

I wonder if that means you can kill another incubus

[storm jungle]

Nah thats dishonorable

[rose thorn]

To become one

[storm jungle]

unless well uhhh its a duel

but that would prob be looked down on as the "easy way"

[late osprey]

yeah that was my thought too

[storm jungle]

its also like OLD lore

like mid 2000's

[late osprey]

like this isnt sengoku japan, you cant just walk on out and fight someone on the road

[storm jungle]

^

[rose thorn]

Taht was only 20 years-

[storm jungle]

to be fair its just "it sounded better in my head"

[late osprey]

my only guess is that since its commorragh they just have an entire prison of aspect warriors

take one out when its time, saves all the mess of walking around the entire galaxy looking for the last 12 aspect warriors in existence

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-invincible-conquest-invincible-s3e8-conquest-slap-gif-807046261511030968

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats even more pathetic point of view wise, like "go kill some aspect warrior in a prison and steal their soulstone" which at that point they wouldnt have

again just dont think about it

its a case of "it sounds cool"

Its definitely pictured more as defeating them in combat in the field seeing as Incubuses are mockup aspect warriors themselves

[viral halo]

Incubi are so cool

[late osprey]

i wonder if they judge you based on which aspect warrior you actually kill, since incubi are mostly all melee specialists

[rose thorn]

It could just be apart of the trial to like, go on a stupid near impossible task

[late osprey]

like do you get laughed at for cheesing it by killing a dark reaper?

[rose thorn]

And that proves how loyal you are to your contract?

[viral halo]

Isn't Drazhar a fallen phoenix lord?

[storm jungle]

Yeah he is

he was originally called Arhra

then he trademarked a new name

[late osprey]

dark eldar altogether are actually really badass

[rose thorn]

Does he follow the normal phoenix lord rules?

[late osprey]

i wish they had tanks

[storm jungle]

its confirmed in the Phoenix Rising book

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[storm jungle]

yep

he gets killed by jain zar

then some dark eldar finds his armor whos a chick

and shes like

"ohoho loot"

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[dusk patrol]

A Incubi leader lady puts his armor on after he dies

[storm jungle]

then once she puts it on her soul gets absorbed

[dusk patrol]

And becomes him

Cause she’s dumb

[storm jungle]

I said that already

you fucking old-ass

[dusk patrol]

Women

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-mald-warhammer-40k-gangnam-style-space-marine-gif-8246058212714888499

[dusk patrol]

🍵

[rose thorn]

POV HRT:

[storm jungle]

but yeah it was a case of like

"oooo you see hes a phoenix lord"

"GW we knew for 20 years already"

anyway nice to have confirmation i guess

[rose thorn]

My favorite phoenix lord is any one of my character that die during a narrative campaign

[storm jungle]

lmao

[rose thorn]

In necromunda my gang leader literlaly died like 3 times in a row

[storm jungle]

there was a borderlands 2 respawn station nearby

[late osprey]

what actually was arhra's problem?

[storm jungle]

He was just an asshole

thats it lmao

[rose thorn]

I just made her lore she keeps getting in horrible near death situations so her face is just,

[storm jungle]

It was a play on the classic thing of "master falls to dark side"

its why Karandras takes his place

[rose thorn]

A SpongeBob zoom in

[late osprey]

ok so for dark eldar i want more alien mercs and cool tank designs

[viral halo]

I wish dark eldar had tanks

but they get boats

[late osprey]

i actually feel like the multi-race shtick fits better for dark eldar than tau

yeah im not the biggest fan of the Jabba the Hutt Skiffs myself

but everything else about them is badass

[storm jungle]

they are raiders you dingdong

[rose thorn]

Any one else’s homebrew demons telling them to start over after spending months working on their lore

[dusk patrol]

You think that’s bad, Tau use fish

[viral halo]

mf they have fighter jets and bombers

[storm jungle]

yeah

things that move fast

you dingledonger

[viral halo]

Tanks can move fast too

[dusk patrol]

Drukhari being like: We are the inheritors of the Eldar empire!

Also Drukhari

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-spectacular-spider-man-green-glider-green-goblin-gif-10525165036847039941

[viral halo]

Mandrakes and Incubi are two of the coolest things

[storm jungle]

Whats wrong with the goblin hoverboard

[dusk patrol]

Everything

[storm jungle]

this coming from the Iron Hands guy is crazy

💀

anyway its cool, shut up

[late osprey]

man the eldar got a wack hand dealt to them

[dusk patrol]

Real

[storm jungle]

Mandrakes are so cool BL literally wrote a monsterfucker novel with them

I mean "horror" sorry

[dusk patrol]

My honest reaction:

[late osprey]

imagine all of society falling apart and the only survivors were Billionaire Psychotics or Actual Monks

[rose thorn]

LMQO

[storm jungle]

Very scary cover guys

[late osprey]

choose one. no in between.

[rose thorn]

The omelette?

[storm jungle]

im glad thats not the case with us IRL

[viral halo]

which

[dusk patrol]

If Mandrakes are so scary, why do they die like such bitches when I shoot them?

[storm jungle]

Look above

[dusk patrol]

Makes you think

[vagrant fox]

I would thrive in the post apocalypse, for a little bit

[viral halo]

don't see anything on my ceiling you're not helping

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[late osprey]

i do generally get the sense that the dark eldar are ironically more representative of what the eldar empire was like (at least at the end) than any of the other factions

[storm jungle]

They are.

the novels/codexes bring this up here and there

[dusk patrol]

They are the literal inheritors of the empire

[storm jungle]

they also keep all the super-tech

[dusk patrol]

The Aeldari were the weird puritans

[late osprey]

yeah its awesome

[storm jungle]

"weird"

💀

[dusk patrol]

And the Exodites are the Amish

Harlequins are Insane Clown Posse

[late osprey]

although it is specifically said that commorragh was more like the Elites' personal domain, so the core worlds were probably at least marginally more in-control

[storm jungle]

It wasnt a personal domain

[dusk patrol]

The four factions of the apocalypse

[storm jungle]

it was just like uhhh

one of the bigger port cities

it was basically dubai lol

[late osprey]

eldar factions out here like it's Fallout

[storm jungle]

people go there to revel and make poor people suffer

[late osprey]

yeah dubais pretty accurate

Tenpenny Tower

[storm jungle]

then it just became the druk capital

LOL

Too true

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah anyone hype for adpeticon reveals? I have no clue what’s gonna be in it

[storm jungle]

did they do any teasers

i missed it...

[dusk patrol]

Most of their Webway stuff got its shit pushed in

[rose thorn]

I don’t think so

[storm jungle]

Most is still pretty intact

[late osprey]

apparently they're trying to make a satan emperor now or something

[storm jungle]

the webway also covers like the entire galaxy so lol

the damaged parts are not that numerous

ish

[storm jungle]

nobody is gonna go back to that plotpoint

dont worry

that entire thing is so stupid

[rose thorn]

Were probably getting the idoneth and nighthaunt battletome reveal because they just haven’t seen it yet

[storm jungle]

I require kill-team

[rose thorn]

But for 40K I don’t even know what’s next

[storm jungle]

and more munda

[storm jungle]

probably more HH

uhhh

what else

[rose thorn]

What’s on the roadmap b

[late osprey]

actually do wonder where all the eldar drones went, since they were apparently cracked and able to fight wars all on their own

i think they were psychically powered so it would make sense why dark eldar dont have them

[storm jungle]

They were mostly abandoned due to the Eldar wishing to abandon the whole lazy slobs aspect.

also just to cover the fact that they dont have robots lol

[late osprey]

just a hunch since they're called "spirit drones" or something

[storm jungle]

psychomatons too

they are mentioned in 1 novel

😭

But yeah its mostly waved away as "lost tech"

[dusk patrol]

They just implant their relatives into stuff now

[storm jungle]

which doesnt really make sense but whatever

[late osprey]

i think part of why i like dark eldar so much is because there's just so much room to expand there

[rose thorn]

Oh all the 40K chaos

[dusk patrol]

Grandma is now a war robot guys

[storm jungle]

well unless you wake her up

[late osprey]

like they could have such a sweet array of sick-ass robots from the old empire

[rose thorn]

They already revealed death guard stuff

[storm jungle]

otherwise she gets to spend time in virtual reality

[late osprey]

lots of alien mercs

[late osprey]

commorragh, commoragh, it's a hell of a town

[storm jungle]

oh right this thing

Uhhh

[rose thorn]

So it’s probably gonna be the death of demons and 1k sons getting shafted

[storm jungle]

okay so

I assume Vulkan reveal probably

[dusk patrol]

It’s called aesthetics smh

[storm jungle]

what else

we got black templars

chaos knights

uhhh

[rose thorn]

THE NEXT 7 REVEALS ARE GONNA BE SPACE MARINES?!?!

[storm jungle]

GK too

[late osprey]

yeah the aesthetics of an evil spiky space vampire elf empire

[rose thorn]

Grey knights and salamanders

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Gotta pay the morgage

anyway thats just 40k

[rose thorn]

[storm jungle]

HH will probably have like another marine guy uhhh

we got the KT stuff

and more Munda then thats it for 40k probably

[dusk patrol]

40k fans when the most popular best selling faction gets releases after we had a whole series of other factions in a row getting massive releases

[storm jungle]

The thing is id rather never see them

but such is life

[rose thorn]

Like they aren’t even breaking it up

[late osprey]

where do you think they got the crown of thorns imagery from?

was there a Dark Eldar Jesus?

[dusk patrol]

Unfortunately I’m gonna put a gun to your head and making you see them

[storm jungle]

yeet

[dusk patrol]

Good

[rose thorn]

Oh hey it’s hands of archeon!

[dusk patrol]

I want grimdank to cry more

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

Are you guys gonna get rules yet?

[storm jungle]

Im gonna wrap those thorns around your dic-

[vagrant fox]

wise and good intentions

[late osprey]

the archon's hands yeah

[dusk patrol]

Spite based releases are the best idea ever

I don’t care who wins, I just want Grimdank to be salty

[storm jungle]

Monkey's paw

[shadow plover]

is there even anything else left besides votann this edition

[storm jungle]

more space marines reveals: they cry

other hand: vulkan reveal = more memes

💀

[rose thorn]

Grim dank is like 50% space marine fans 20% guard fans

And then everyone else

[storm jungle]

OMG ITS MR CHUNGUS WHOLESOME HERE TO SAVE THE IMPERIUM

[vagrant fox]

It's at least 20% tau goodboys

[shadow plover]

just don't open reddit

[storm jungle]

I dont

[dusk patrol]

It’s not gonna be Vulkan anyway, it’s just gonna be a new character models for each FF chapter who aren’t the big four

[storm jungle]

and i still know im gonna get flooded

[rose thorn]

Same

[dusk patrol]

And new sprues probably

[storm jungle]

if it is im killing you

dont jinx this

like Leman I can put up with, space wolves are whatever

[rose thorn]

That’s what it was last time

[storm jungle]

just please no Salamanders Primeork

[dusk patrol]

If it is they’ve kept the best secret they’ve kept in like

[storm jungle]

yeah daemon primarch then loyalist primarch

[dusk patrol]

Forever

[storm jungle]

yeah even angron got leaked

tho Lion didnt did he?

[rose thorn]

If we get 9 + 7 space marine reveals I will laugh forever

[dusk patrol]

No I like to be angry

My rage is pure though

[storm jungle]

wait no they posted like

[shadow plover]

smh

[storm jungle]

some nature documentary of a lion

because get it, hes named the Lion

so like, the animal lion-

[dusk patrol]

I am the chad Sanguinius rage vs the virgin “Reee daddy didn’t let me kill the high riders” Angron

[vagrant fox]

aah i get it

[rose thorn]

Wait how many codex complaint chapters are there again?

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[rose thorn]

For FF chapters

[dusk patrol]

Uh

[storm jungle]

isnt it all 18

[late osprey]

there's lots of chapters that complain about the codex

[storm jungle]

or do you mean like ones that got codexes

[rose thorn]

Yeah

The uh

[storm jungle]

Uhhh lexicanum time hold on

[rose thorn]

Ones that don’t get special treatment

[storm jungle]

harsh

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Codices_(List)

lets see

[dusk patrol]

“18 first founding chapters”

[late osprey]

i think white scars are still forgotten dust and bones

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-have-this-conversation-again-tony-soprano-the-sopranos-gif-16274142811887245291

[rose thorn]

White scars didn’t get a character in a vehicle

[dusk patrol]

But codex compliant is, debatable

[storm jungle]

lets see uhh

[rose thorn]

Which is crazy because the same character’s last model was on a bike

[dusk patrol]

Imperial Fists are

Ultras ironically mostly aren’t but whatever

WS are

RG aren’t

[late osprey]

childhood core memory resurfaced

[storm jungle]

Blood Angels
Ultramen
Space Wolves
Dark Angles
Black Templin Institute (not founding but still get codexes)

[dusk patrol]

Blood Angels are

[storm jungle]

the other Chapters awhile back got supplements

[late osprey]

this was also the drop pod box art, i remember

[storm jungle]

little mealpacks

[rose thorn]

Ultramarines got a codex???

[storm jungle]

I mean

KINDA

they are the posterboys

so they count as the "base" form

[dusk patrol]

Anyways it’s gonna be Imperial Fists, White Scars, Iron Hands, Raven Guard and Sallies getting a new model and sprues

Which is fun

[storm jungle]

Boooooring

🗣️

I need more desolator squads

WAITER

[sly ivy]

Tf wasn’t this just a couple years ago

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

it was in like 1984

you guys werent even alive back then

it was after the great plague

2008

[sly ivy]

It’s always 1984 see

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/ruckus-this-cant-be-no-this-cant-be-sad-read-letter-gif-14293155805878050145

[sly ivy]

Because We Live in a Society

wake up sheeple

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sheep-animals-kukukaka-angry-rage-gif-11975983

anyway im not watching the reveals because those announcers cannot ever shut the fuck up

[late osprey]

luv me complete 6th edition xenos codices

[shadow plover]

I feel this discussion is approaching the topic from two different perspectives, on the tabletop non-codex compliant chapters are the ones who get their own codex books, which are BT, BA, DA, SW, (DW DG) but of course there are more non-compliant chapters in-universe

[storm jungle]

I said this already!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cola-cat-cola-explosion-luma-ai-gif-12441479630905084027

uaaaggh-

[shadow plover]

you said it wrong

[storm jungle]

I hated this era

because the cover arts were AI af

way too clean!!!

[late osprey]

for me its the fact that legion of the damned are xenos

[storm jungle]

the racism is real

[shadow plover]

yeah 6th ed codex art was wack, nice enough as art but not good as book covers

[storm jungle]

I miss them and their hot nacho color scheme

[storm jungle]

yeah it was also the era of like

GW hiring weird artists for codexes

then just never using them again lol

(mostly because they were very bland)

[rose thorn]

It’s so dumb yeah but I meant the ones without codexes

[late osprey]

man when i was 13 just building my first army (space marines ofc) i thought legion of the damned were like

the actually coolest fucking thing ever

[rose thorn]

This is the funniest thing ever

[late osprey]

i saw their art and i was immediately like "DUUUUDE"

[storm jungle]

*bad to the bone riff*

[shadow plover]

so that'll be Ultramarines, Iron Hands, White Scars, Imperial Fists, Salamanders and Raven Guard

[storm jungle]

yeah they tried to tackle that with supplements

then just... kinda didnt

it was a really dumb system

i dont remember people liking it that much

[shadow plover]

supplements were neat-ish but it got too bloated with the rules

[storm jungle]

iirc it was because "what the fuck are all these things"

yeah that lol

[rose thorn]

Who wants to buy 2 codexes to play the same army twice

[storm jungle]

YEP

just put them in 1 fucking book

[shadow plover]

to be fair the supplements were like 20 bucks

[storm jungle]

idgaf if its thick as your moms ass

[storm jungle]

20 BUCKS?

I CAN BUY SOME MCDONALDS FOR THAT

[shadow plover]

the full codexes are closer to 50

[rose thorn]

“B-but my green marines are better than your stupid Eldar!!! We need codexes!”

[late osprey]

i love it

random craftworld supplement
no orks

[vagrant fox]

the orks don't need it, just make up rules

[storm jungle]

Its kinda crazy to imagine back in the day some editions just didnt cover a faction lol

[rose thorn]

Do the non codex complaint codexes have the normal space marines profiles in them?

[late osprey]

Now, we know you necron players had been wanting to play in the new 6th edition, and we hear you. Henceforth, we're proud to announce the new Iyanden Codex Supplement.

Wraithguard, as you know, are basically the same thing as necrons.

[storm jungle]

Iyanden's entire in-universe and out of universe audience members:

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-falling-falling-over-gif-9881376952697054490

[sly ivy]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Unlike you

punkass

[late osprey]

its just so random its actually surreal

i can get the farsight enclaves one but it'd be like if they did like fucking

Tau Supplement: Vior'la

[storm jungle]

Real.

Anyway i dont play tabletop so you guys can suffer though

[sly ivy]

I scrub the sunless realm every day

[late osprey]

i only play battlefleet gothic armada 2 these days, 40k unfortunately has just become unfun on the tabletop

[storm jungle]

thats a complaint i hear a lot lately

[outer wave]

Sometimes I wish I owned minis, but then I realize I'd have to spend all my allowance, my savings, and my hands and feet just to buy a 500 point army

[storm jungle]

yeah like

memes arent memes for this subject half the time

its very time consuming and expensive lol

[outer wave]

But it sounds like a fun passion project/investment

[storm jungle]

I mean

[late osprey]

the issue i repeatedly ran into was that nowadays, more than it felt like before 7th, games were decided at the lists themselves

[storm jungle]

if you can devote time to it yes

[shadow plover]

It is

[late osprey]

so like you either had an army that could fight theirs or you didnt

[storm jungle]

if not you'll be like this gay guy above me

[late osprey]

vehicles were where this was most obvious

[shadow plover]

[sly ivy]

Current tabletop is good. It’s balanced and fun and terrain matters.

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-scared-willem-dafoe-gif-17761333

[storm jungle]

🫵

anyway i need to re-finish Solar War, wake me up when the vulkan reveal happens so i can smash my monitor

[sly ivy]

I was super sad about the gutting of psychic phase but I got better

[storm jungle]

[late osprey]

i dont really believe this, im sorry to say

[outer wave]

Sounds almost like yugioh to an extent lmao

[late osprey]

im sticking with AoS

the warhammer game of aristocrats

[sly ivy]

Ew AoS

[outer wave]

You got cooler models in AoS anyway

[vagrant fox]

vulkan schmulkan, the khan is returning

[sly ivy]

Ok being real love me Cities army

[shadow plover]

I do think 10th is the best warhammer we've had for at least 3 editions

[late osprey]

AoS is genuinely better than 40k going purely off of gameplay

[sly ivy]

Ya

[late osprey]

the lores not half-bad either, but you have to like that sort of WoTC/MtG style hyper-magic

[celest dome]

Not everyone has to have good taste

[sly ivy]

Just bc u can be 4 flavors of pervy elves instead of 2

[late osprey]

are you having a stroke?

[outer wave]

Yeah that multiverse kinda shit is a bit offputting at times, but I do like some of it conceptually

[rose thorn]

How do you think gw will recover from the last half of the edition having no space marines left

[arctic talon]

That’s normal

[celest dome]

It's not really multiverse though, planar realm is the more accurate way to describe it

[sly ivy]

Dark Harvest legit one of best Warhammer books

[outer wave]

Yeah planar realms

[late osprey]

at a certain point i can get where the initial hate came from because its just aesthetically/thematically so radically different from warhammer fantasy

[rose thorn]

What faction didn’t get their codex til the last 2 months of the edition last time?

[sly ivy]

also Blood of the Everchosen

[arctic talon]

Guard lmao

[rose thorn]

LMAOOOOO

NO WAY

[arctic talon]

Guard has prolly been one of the most fucked over factions

Regarding codexes historically

[late osprey]

yeah honestly i keep thinking of AoS as if MtG were a wargame

[arctic talon]

Only 2 similar are SoB

[late osprey]

with the different planes and stuff

[sly ivy]

Rip

[late osprey]

literally giant gates to travel between them too

[arctic talon]

And Drukhari

[shadow plover]

deserved

[sly ivy]

It’s more like Planescape imho

[rose thorn]

Sons of behomet?

[arctic talon]

Drukhari didn’t have a codex from 3e to 5e and then 5e to 7e

[rose thorn]

SISTERS OF BATTLE

[storm jungle]

Went in expecting happy farmer life
Got traumatized for life

[outer wave]

Yeah, least they have an explanation for it aside from Sigmar coming back and restarting the universe or whatever; legit everyone and everything is made of magic now

[arctic talon]

Guard got one codex in 3e, then one in 5e

And then didn’t get a codex till 8e

[rose thorn]

Heard sisters got shafted this edition

And necrons

[vagrant fox]

Dark Harvest pops, it did make me take an interest in AoS

[arctic talon]

SoB got one 2e, half one in 4e and half one in 7e

[arctic talon]

Just nerfs

[rose thorn]

Me too

[arctic talon]

They’ll be fine

[arctic talon]

Necrons are fine

[dusk patrol]

Me going into “Sinister Hospital of Doom” book expecting a nice medical drama

[arctic talon]

Anyone bitching about Necrons

Is genuinely a smooth brain

[storm jungle]

WUAAAGH-

[spare osprey]

quick ques, could a necron lord keep another necron from awakening?

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

They’re literally in the top 5

[storm jungle]

yes

[arctic talon]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Necron tech questions are literally just "yes"

[spare osprey]

ok awesome

[arctic talon]

Via murder

Lol

[storm jungle]

LOL

[arctic talon]

Usually they just kill the fucker

Lol

[spare osprey]

awww

[storm jungle]

Nah like

[rose thorn]

Slick

[storm jungle]

if he wnats to keep him alive but in a coma

thats perfectly also fine

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah

We have that

[storm jungle]

as long as the court doesnt give a shit its not that big of a deal lol

[arctic talon]

I forgot which dynasty

[spare osprey]

ok good, i'm messing with stuff for my ugly necron

[arctic talon]

But they had a cryptek uprising

And they uh

[outer wave]

Could one nercron lord eliminate two rivals by fusing their consciousnesses together in one body?

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[arctic talon]

Lobotomized their pharon

[spare osprey]

thinking he keeps his wife asleep so she can't see him

[arctic talon]

Yes

[storm jungle]

Literally any necron tech question is "yes"

[outer wave]

Thats awesome

[storm jungle]

remember their tech level is literally magic

lol

[arctic talon]

Now granted a Lord or overlord

[dusk patrol]

Could they suck their own dick?

[arctic talon]

Prolly couldn’t do that

They need help

[sly ivy]

If necrons have such good tech

[arctic talon]

Wait no

[storm jungle]

they lack the jerk-off feature of power armors so no

[outer wave]

Can a pharon kiss a sleeping necron lord rival good night and tell him he loves him dearly?

[storm jungle]

[sly ivy]

Why can’t they give themselves more than 4 teeth

[storm jungle]

have you read Severed

[dusk patrol]

So you lied

[arctic talon]

If they wanted

[celest dome]

Don't they have portal tech though ?

[shadow plover]

wanna win in a court battle? just use the time traveling cape until you do

[outer wave]

I havent read any 40k short stories at least not that Ogryn slaves one yet anyway so no

[arctic talon]

I’m talking about fusing 2 engram consciousness into one body

It’s kind of difficult without a cryptek lol

[celest dome]

oh

[outer wave]

Can a necron digivolve into an agumon

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[arctic talon]

Idk

[storm jungle]

next question

[arctic talon]

Have you asked it nicely

[storm jungle]

THEY LITERALLY HAVE POKEBALLS

[outer wave]

Can that Agumon digivole into Greymon?

[storm jungle]

Yes

next question

[sly ivy]

You gotta queue up that plagueridden battle sister story that’s Dilara’s favorite

[outer wave]

Can he persona fuse Sandolphon and Baal together to create Satan?

[storm jungle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[arctic talon]

Idk I think AoS is fundamentally fine lol

[storm jungle]

SHUT UP SHUT UP

[arctic talon]

I get it people like it more then fantasy battle or vice versa lol

[spare osprey]

ANOTHER one while we're here, it wouldn't be practical but could an overlord order the "blinding" of his dynasty

out of pure curiosity

[vagrant fox]

Is that the one plague sister with the dookie, I forget

[storm jungle]

Yes

[arctic talon]

Also honestly

[outer wave]

I think Ive seen that story on 1d4chan

[spare osprey]

beautiful

[arctic talon]

Would peoples opinions change at all if the different realms were just planets lol

[outer wave]

Never read it

[storm jungle]

remember

theres a necron dynasty

who is just pirates

[languid meadow]

WHAT THE FUCK

[storm jungle]

sky is the limit

[spare osprey]

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