no flesh left
#40k-lore-chat
median star
and also is the rubricon usually something thats suggested to marines or do they have to want it for it to even be an option
crisp heath
That is true
arctic talon
and also is the rubricon usually something thats suggested to marines or do they...
They usually ask for it
Or if they're severely injured and there's no other way
they just do the process and hope they don't explode
median star
and they're sure as shit more durable + stronger
so theirs a likely hood iron hands could always have the most in proportionate amount of first born left eventually
arctic talon
Due to being unable to implement the organs yes
plush mason
they just do the process and hope they don't explode
so Titus wasnt a special case
arctic talon
but at that point it doesn't really matter
arctic talon
so Titus wasnt a special case
yeah no, there's a science™️ to doing it
young pecan
Idk what all they did other than change the plague system but Ku'gath feels so fucking good to play compared to how it used to
arctic talon
Its pretty much the, well they're gona die anyways might as well try
arctic talon
so theirs a likely hood iron hands could always have the most in proportionate a...
regarding this though, line marines in the Iron hands aren't usually augmented to the teeth
plush mason
better than shoving them in a dreadnaught i guess
arctic talon
they got a good chunk of augments but a good bit of them haven't even passed the Crux Mechanicus
median star
so is their a gauge to look at when forcing them accross the rubricon while near death in comparison to just having them be a dreadnaught
arctic talon
but it does vary marine to marine
crisp heath
Sm6 Titus is a dreadnought now
arctic talon
so is their a gauge to look at when forcing them accross the rubricon while near...
trying to force someone across the rubicon is done when they don't have a dread available
which is a lot of the time
Titus could have ended up shoved in a dread lol
median star
so titus could have very well ended up a dread if only one were available
arctic talon
but they didn't have the bits available so rubicon it is
yeah
it is much easier + safer
though some marines pretty much have the whole
dapper gyro
Marines in Dreadnought are already exceptional marines.
arctic talon
if I almost get killed and can cross the rubicon don't shove me into the box
mostly white scars
LOL
dapper gyro
The number of wounded during combat is not small in many cases.
plush mason
being in a dreadnaught is a special kind of hell so i cant blame them
crisp heath
It wouldn't be pleasant I could imagine , I get why there all so bloody angry
dapper gyro
It is pretty much your brain in a jar placed in a machine.
median star
no hands left to wipe for multiple centuries is bound to cause severe psychic trauma
arctic talon
crisp heath
Not being able to breath would do it for me
plush mason
It is pretty much your brain in a jar placed in a machine.
its even worse because they can still feel the pain of the wound that almost killed them
so they are stuck with it for centuries if not longer
crisp heath
Stuck inside a dark cold box
dapper gyro
its even worse because they can still feel the pain of the wound that almost kil...
If I recall correctly, some of them can feel pain from the serious damage to the armour.
arctic talon
Yeah
arctic talon
There is a good level of feedback
Between the dread suit + your leftover nervous system
As for who designed it that way
Good question
crisp heath
Pity ai caused all those problems
Otherwise just let them die and let the robots do it lol
plush mason
a sadistic fuck which does so little to narrow down the list its not funny
vagrant fox
Which dread was it that could feel their arm, whatever was left of it, constantly banging into the side of their sarcophagus
Must be infuriating
crisp heath
Jeez
median star
so the dark angels are supposed to have all this dark age of tech lvl bullshit to throw when going get tough right does that also include ai if so how do they control it id assume most the ai is very not happy to have been indentured for like what 15k years and just opened out of the box very rarely
arctic talon
The controlled men of iron might be dead
It doesn’t show up again after it’s first and only appearance in the heresy black book
But most of the dark angels bullshit
Is just weapons
storm jungle
The survival of Men of Iron is also entirely dependant on if an author wants to include them in a story or not
Because its a huge galaxy, there will always be outliers
dapper gyro
DA bullshit tech are just more powerful normal tech. Its secrecy is the reason that it feels more bullshit.
storm jungle
Vashtorr even meets one lol
median star
vashtorr isnt a man of iron tho is he
dapper gyro
The one with Eldar girlfriend?
median star
would be cool if a man or iron was somehow able to ascend to demonhood and shows up
arctic talon
The one with Eldar girlfriend?
💀
crisp heath
What does a robot need a gf for
arctic talon
More like one of 3 people he likes
He gets along with the ratling brothers
And the eldar ranger
crisp heath
Oh
arctic talon
He does not like everyone else lol
sly ivy
Vashtorr even meets one lol
Wat
dapper gyro
Imagine having them as characters in Darktide 2.
crisp heath
That's different , I was like I know ai is sentient but it would be Below them wouldn't it
median star
so are the dark mechancium and vashtorr chill w each other like do they think that maybe hes the omnessiah
hexed orchid
Imagine having them as characters in Darktide 2.
That would be an insane level of heresy 
storm jungle
murders like a ton of people
walks up to like uhhh
a huge datahub
he points at a techpriest whos controlling it and the techpriest is like
sly ivy
Arks of Omen 3
That shit’s expensive af ty 4 summarizing
storm jungle
"YOU WILL NEVER MAKE ME SPEAK"
Vashtorr is just:
"I wasnt talking to you."
stabs him through the techpriest, his finger connects to a USB port
and goes "I know you are in there."
shadow plover
lewd
storm jungle
^^^^
shadow plover
hope we'll get more of him soon
hexed orchid
*stabs him through the techpriest, his finger connects to a USB port*
Didn't even ask for consent, so rude
arctic talon
hope we'll get more of him soon
He shows up in pariah nexus
storm jungle
real
arctic talon
Didn't even ask for consent, so rude
He’s a daemon
Or I guess a God
In any case
Neither of those ask for consent
hexed orchid
He’s a daemon
Manners cost nothing
arctic talon
shadow plover
what's he up to in pariah nexus
sly ivy
Ok yeah arks of omen had some good stuff I always liked the Old One tunneling worms
storm jungle
but its a good showcase of like yes AI can hide in imperial machinery without anyone having any idea they are there.
Warhammer Crime also has a short dedicated to this concept as well.
sly ivy
Who is actually responsible for the story and text
arctic talon
what's he up to in pariah nexus
He inverted a pariah nexus spire to supercharge the warp and is now trying to do it to all the pylons
arctic talon
Who is actually responsible for the story and text
GW writers
crisp heath
Yeah ok that's reallllly cool
shadow plover
oh right that
arctic talon
GW doesn’t credit codex writers anymore
storm jungle
^
sly ivy
Like there’s a lot of black library stuff in Arks
storm jungle
after Ward got harrassed to very disturbing levels they have never done it yeah
sly ivy
GW doesn’t credit codex writers anymore
I knowwwww that’s why I’m asking for speculation
storm jungle
they sometimes do it but its loose credits, most of the time they keep the people responsible for it hidden
crisp heath
That's a shame that they don't credit their writers
sly ivy
The ouroboros stuff is gav Thorpe flavored
crisp heath
Especially when they put so much time into what they do
storm jungle
as ever cannot blame anyone but the fandom
back in the day they literally credited everyone involved in the codex
hallow saddle
yep
storm jungle
the art, the text, the minis showcased etc
sly ivy
So much more interesting and informative
hallow saddle
and cause people still bitch about a certain ex-designer, no sign of it ever changing
arctic talon
God
crisp heath
I was going to say I always remembered seeing the person's name after there text of speech
storm jungle
people lost their minds when they realised Ward wrote Vermintide 1 and 2 lol
hallow saddle
none of the people have ever even read anything hes written
arctic talon
people lost their minds when they realised Ward wrote Vermintide 1 and 2 lol
Hit them with the lobotomizer
Ward can actually write
Tbh
arctic talon
Also codex ultramarines
hexed orchid
Why do people still bitch about Ward
People still dislike the Ultramarines over this too lol
shadow plover
none of the people have ever even read anything hes written
This is probably the biggest portion of the people crying about him if we're for real, meme kids who have no idea what they're talking about
arctic talon
What a fucking mess lol
hallow saddle
its basically down to 1d4chan tbh
arctic talon
This is probably the biggest portion of the people crying about him if we're for...
Yeah
hallow saddle
with a huge article about him
arctic talon
Ask someone how they feel about tau
They say they don’t fit
Ask them when they were born
After 2001
shadow plover
or better, after Tau were released
arctic talon
Yes
That’s 2001
If you were born after 2001 tau are older then you conceptually
Which is always funny
shadow plover
oh fuck I remembered they were from 2004
plush mason
Which is always funny
you know what isnt funny? the fact there are people born after the year 2000
crisp heath
Are u talking lore wise or?
plush mason
im saying im old
median star
you know what isnt funny? the fact there are people born after the year 2000
is this the self report that youre actually turning to dust tomorrow
plush mason
yes
dry epoch
you know what isnt funny? the fact there are people born after the year 2000
I find denying they really exist helps.
They’re just figments of my deranged middle aged imagination
plush mason
I find denying they really exist helps.
hard to do that with 6 nieces/nephews that are all born after the year 2000, and the oldest is 16 -_-
shadow plover
I don't understand how my little brother can be 18, he's a child, a baby
he shouldn't be driving a car
spring cairn
time passed i think
shadow plover
impossible
vagrant fox
My niece had a child all of a sudden, there are many impossibilities in the world
shadow plover
fucked up
plush mason
ngl this channel is a bit of a digital old folks home :P
crisp heath
I mean the amount of bickering, it adds up
dry epoch
I enjoy said post Y2K enfants terrible not comprehending old people like me were playing video games long before they were born.
median star
its ok grandpa go back to watching the weather
dry epoch
I’m old AND female so it’s a joyous double whammy
plush mason
I enjoy said post Y2K *enfants terrible* not comprehending old people like me we...
at least it lets us be like the lion from Narina whenever they try to pull some old internet prank/meme on us
dry epoch
“I was there when badgers and mushrooms started it all.”
plush mason
yup
celest dome
Wait, why does that sound familiar
dry epoch
Wait, why does that sound familiar
Weebl
vagrant fox
That's back when owls went o rly and that guy numa numa'd
crisp heath
And it rained chocalate
vagrant fox
Do the kids still make youtube poops
shadow plover
They do
dry epoch
Anyway, I have derailed the chat so I shall resume shouting at clouds
dry epoch
I’m watching from behind my curtains, you’re all good.
sacred bluff
Okay oz
vagrant fox
arctic talon
dusky scroll
Do all mechanicus priests come from Mars? Or do they have settlements elsewhere too?
plush mason
they have several forge worlds but all pay homage to Mars
arctic talon
Do all mechanicus priests come from Mars? Or do they have settlements elsewhere ...
There’s a ton of forgeworlds
Each with its own dogmas and beliefs
dusky scroll
Do they breed and train in those forgeworlds?
plush mason
yes afaik
arctic talon
Do they breed and train in those forgeworlds?
Yes
dusky scroll
Another question, so currently in the Universe, only the Emperor knows what humanity during Age of technology and their tech was like?
plush mason
kinda
arctic talon
no
anyone else who knows isn't willing to share/doesn't care
lol
Urien Rakarth, Ur-025, and Asurmen all know
but they don't want to share or feel like sharing lol
plush mason
ngl i doubt even the emperor knows the full truth
dusky scroll
ngl i doubt even the emperor knows the full truth
That's a heretical statement!
arctic talon
for major forge worlds
plush mason
That's a heretical statement!
im a talking cat with a frog on its head, my very existence is heretical lmao
outer wave
Question: while I know in fantasy and AoS, beastmen, even if grown up in a decent environment, will always sway to chaos, but is it the same for beastmen in 40k?
arctic talon
Question: while I know in fantasy and AoS, beastmen, even if grown up in a decen...
no
a majority of beastmen in 40k are imperium aligned
celest dome
40k Beastmen are just a type of Abhuman tbh
arctic talon
even though their kind faces extermination in some places
celest dome
Fantasy ones are not really in the same condition
outer wave
No they're a little more than just abhumans
plush mason
40k Beastmen are just a type of Abhuman tbh
last i heard they are on the edge and very likely to be declared mutants
arctic talon
They're just abhumans
outer wave
I know there's beastmen regiments but I always felt those were shortlived for some reason
plush mason
if GW ever advances their story lmao
arctic talon
last i heard they are on the edge and very likely to be declared mutants
its been the case since forever for them
lol
plush mason
yeah
arctic talon
some purges are enacted
its pulled back in other places
at the end of the day the imperium really can't be picky right now
so beastmen are a common sight for abhuman auxilleries
celest dome
last i heard they are on the edge and very likely to be declared mutants
Guilliman reinstated them as such iirc.
But yes, in certain sectors they've been deemed mutants and to be exterminated, but there are other types of Abhuman that are in similar cases, iirc they're name Sub or something
plush mason
yeah they need every gun and blade they can find
outer wave
Makes sense to me
arctic talon
There are still chaosy beastmen
dusky scroll
for major forge worlds
wdym? Forge worlds can be from age of tech?
outer wave
Mhmmm
arctic talon
wdym? Forge worlds can be from age of tech?
no
idk why that sent
I thought I deleted that message
celest dome
Aren't Hives technically relics from the Age of Tech ?
dusky scroll
understandable
arctic talon
Aren't Hives technically relics from the Age of Tech ?
yes
but for a list of major forgeworlds in the mechanicus: Mars, Lucius, Agripinna, Stygies VIII, Ryza, Metalica(for now), Graia,
plush mason
but for a list of major forgeworlds in the mechanicus: Mars, Lucius, Agripinna, ...
the collective admech chuckles at the (for now) lmao
tough haven
how awful the imperium is
“Emperor not like beastman, dirty, smelly. Kill for Emperor, take skulls for Emperor. Say ‘sorry’”
Genuinely makes me sad
plush mason
yeah
outer wave
Beastmen will always play the role of the black sheep in any setting they're in
arctic talon
For other forgeworlds of comparable production/political sway/size but aren't as powerful as the big 7: Accatran, Anvillus, Incaladion, Triplex phall, Voss Prime, Zhao-Arkkad
for forgeworlds who fell from being major ones: Gryphonne IV
plush mason
the imperium tells the abhumans that they are mistakes and they must give their lives to the emperor in repentance for the sin of existence
tough haven
I love abhumans though
arctic talon
Genuinely makes me sad
thats the point
tough haven
It’s very good writing
tough haven
I love abhumans though
They’re my favorite subclass of the imperium
I need more abhuman centric content
tough haven
the imperium tells the abhumans that they are mistakes and they must give their ...
I made the villain in my 40K campaign awful to ogryns so people will really hate him
There’s an ogryn in the boss fight as a bodyguard, who the villain just uses, discards, and then berates as the ogryn dies
All he wanted was to keep his boss safe, cause that’s what Empra says to do
And the guy could have just told him “you did good Frug” as he dies, but no
outer wave
I made the villain in my 40K campaign awful to ogryns so people will really hate...
Based
tough haven
He's also rich so theres that
young pecan
You should let them medicae the ogryn to get as a buddy if they're quick enough
plush mason
oh btw, in DOW2 retribution it was stated the ordo hereticus will sometime hire xenos to kill heretics they couldnt get to with normal means, is that/was that canon
arctic talon
yes
plush mason
so there is a minute chance Gryndal could hire an eldar corsair or something to help out on Atoma
arctic talon
yes
storm jungle
oh btw, in DOW2 retribution it was stated the ordo hereticus will sometime hire ...
every single Inquisitor group or faction in the Inquisition can do what they want
its entirely down to "are they gonna get caught"
near wasp
Am I going to get caught and if I do will it completely crush my reputation
storm jungle
^^^^^^
south quartz
speaking of DOW
how the fuck did that one inquisitor get a space-marine grade DAEMON HAMMER?
shadow plover
built different
spring cairn
aura
storm jungle
speaking of DOW
how the fuck did that one inquisitor get a space-marine grade DA...
Inquisitors work on the logic of RPG characters
he probably did enough in his career to procure one
its how the lore excuses most Inquisitor gear, its like the least strange thing about him
plush mason
i still dont get the ending of DOW1 lol
why did a daemon of Khorne go to a space hulk to corrupt a trapped psyker that was already sworn to Nurgle
celest dome
Tzeentch
storm jungle
Honestly just dont think about it
storm jungle
DoW's lore just gets extremely goofy
its a fun series but theres so many funny "what the fuck" things thats never really explained
spring cairn
can't hear you over AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
storm jungle
It deffo is still a bit goofy
arctic talon
We need an excuse to have them fight
storm jungle
somehow the entirety of the blood ravens didnt notice their fucking librarian was Eresus 2.0
plush mason
the blood ravens have the hammer Fulgrim made for Ferrus just sitting the hold of their flag ship
arctic talon
It deffo is still a bit goofy
Yeah, but it’s marginally more tonally consistent lol
storm jungle
Yeah, but it’s marginally more tonally consistent lol
no
arctic talon
somehow the entirety of the blood ravens didnt notice their fucking librarian wa...
Also legion building
Lul
plush mason
somehow the entirety of the blood ravens didnt notice their fucking librarian wa...
tbf they where ruled by a chapter master that is also the chief libarian that was corrupted by both Khorne and Nurgle
storm jungle
tbf they where ruled by a chapter master that is also the chief libarian that wa...
Yeah see what I mean
LMAO
plush mason
the blood ravens extermatused their home world and became a fleet chapter because the local government formed a democracy and the blood ravens didnt like that
plush mason
the blood ravens have some wacky lore
like no one even knows which founding they are from
as they where apperently operating out of the Arealia sub sector for 1000s of years before the imperium found them
south quartz
god, i wish i could get dow one and actually see the blood ravens in action
chrome tendon
Would Tyranids attack Nurgle's domains or not? you know, because rotten flesh and disgusting stuff everywhere obviously not taste good.
arctic talon
They’d try
south quartz
biomass is biomass
and i'm pretty sure no tyranid bioform would survive in the garden of nurgle
arctic talon
They can eat nurgle stuff
There’s an upper limit though
Hesp
One moment lemme grab the exerpt
arctic talon
Would Tyranids attack Nurgle's domains or not? you know, because rotten flesh an...
On the Jungle World of Hesp, the forces of Lotan clashed with the 4th and 7th Plague Companies of the Death Guard. When the swarms deployed Toxicrenes and Venomthropes to poison the environment, the Death Guard responded with plague spells, virus bombs and daemonic diseases. With neither side willing to back down, the atmosphere of Hesp became ever more toxic until the jungles, and even the warring armies, were reduced to a gory, bubbling soup. The first Tyranid hive ship to taste this poisoned biomass recoiled with its proboscis melting, and was bombarded into oblivion by the rest of its fleet. Hesp was left as an endless sea of toxic slime, too virulent for even the hive fleets to devour
outer wave
Would Tyranids attack Nurgle's domains or not? you know, because rotten flesh an...
Well, the biomass on that is largely space magic stuff with some bodies and other unmentionables mixed in, sooooo its a bit hard at times
spring cairn
outer wave
CU--
south quartz
okay.
i have to ask something rq
would posting a pdf of a 40k book get me banned from this server?
outer wave
If you have to ask that, probably best not to
spring cairn
@storm jungle
south quartz
aight
spring cairn
I summon the janitor
south quartz
i'll take your word for it
spring cairn
to answer this question
outer wave
She here to clean up the lore chat's diapies....
storm jungle
would posting a pdf of a 40k book get me banned from this server?
Also yes we are strictly against pirating because this is an official IP associated server
south quartz
storm jungle
south quartz
FALLEN
outer wave
Im so glad there is absolutely no piracy happening, hahaha, right fellas?
storm jungle
south quartz
dank angle
spring cairn
sharp pollen
died
spring cairn
thanks god
south quartz
no, it's really not
sharp pollen
what are you if not a gooner then
south quartz
memes have lost their whimsy, haven't they?
south quartz
i wish to go back to ye olde days of pingas and mama luigi
sly ivy
https://tenor.com/view/rannick-darktide-rannick-darktide-among-us-rannick-among-...
Ah god this gif frightened me
What who’s goonin in here without me
dusk patrol
sly ivy
Also yes we are strictly against pirating because this is an official IP associa...
Ya it’s amazing they let all of you stinky degenerates in here at all
I on the other hand am clean as a whistle
storm jungle
sly ivy
My soul is as white as fresh fallen snow
rocky gale
Speaking of Invincible, apparently the creator has said that the show is going to start adding in unused storylines from the comics because they're tired of comic readers spoiling everything
dusk patrol
I doubt that’s the core reason lol
I think he just said he had some stuff he wanted to do which they didn’t get to
The ending the comic is definitely something they could do better, and the Darkblood setup wasn’t in the comic either.
storm jungle
I doubt that’s the core reason lol
^
Will admit I do hate spoilers as the next person but im also getting about as sick of whining about comic readers spoiling stuff lol
sly ivy
Gee Dilara I thought you liked whining
Like a protective mother hen
Always caring for the weakest and most annoying
storm jungle
I will kill both equally
hallow saddle
just saying for no particular reason that i have many 40k books that i bought and stripped the drm from so theyre readable by anyone
and on a totally unrelated note i like to share the love
for absolutely no reason whatsoever
and that my DMs are open
storm jungle
opaque coyote
Actual homemade lightning gun
"The target has achieved a high state of division”
YOU MEAN THE TARGET IS FUCKING GONE
shadow plover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lix-vr_AF38
oh nice, he made a new video. The one he made earlier was taken down, probably because it showed how to make one 
opaque coyote
oh nice, he made a new video. The one he made earlier was taken down, probably b...
Yeah I think it's mentioned that it was due to some youtube video bureaucracy or whatever
I think its the same one actually
Still has the entire process
Also mf really said that the plasma cannon had an
"Adverse effect on the Television's electronics"
It literally blew up
💀
Actual mad scientist
Love it
shadow plover
it's different, the other one was filmed in a different location
opaque coyote
And a sick part of me is just
deeply curious on what that would do to a person
Although it probably won't do as much damage as a gun considering it took a lot of power just to shoot past the wooden board
Probably would cause a heart attack but people have survived being stricken by lightning
so
Still though this shit is awesome
rocky gale
I doubt that’s the core reason lol
Unfortunately I have already said it on the internet, establishing it as canon
plush mason
@queen laurel didnt you say you are watching the pro and noob wilds playthrough?
arctic talon
is there an IG regiment that specializes in under-sea engagements
Don’t think so
plush mason
i guess if you count those fish people abhumans
but they never leave their world afaik so idk if they even have auxiliary regiments
gray umbra
moebian 21 did a lot of fights on aquatic worlds i think?
their MO is kind of unclear though
vagrant fox
All I can think of are those ork subs from Helsreach
sharp pollen
is there an IG cowboy regiment
vagrant fox
Isn't there a cowboy planet somewhere in the Calixis Sector
opaque coyote
thats the closest one i can think of to cowboy
Honestly imagining a guardsman using something like this would be sick ngl
plush mason
they have standard cadian pattern lasguns iirc
plush mason
their uniforms are literally just confederate army though lol
opaque coyote
If you're gonna attract fucking racists by having them literally dress like the confeds
At least add some fancy
Civil War with Futuristic combo
At least the Kriegers had god damn cyborg horses
plush mason
i think they are only mentioned in like one of the first tau codices or a short story from that time
opaque coyote
A Guardsman using a 6 shooter that uses bullets bigger than a Bolter would be sick
Also would probably break your shoulder
(Yes ik Bolter Rounds are basically mini missiles)
opaque coyote
i think they are only mentioned in like one of the first tau codices or a short ...
Also lever operated Lasguns
Imagine
We got Lasguns that are muskets after all
Laslocks
I would imagine there's an inbetween
storm jungle
Also lever operated Lasguns
cursed as fuck
dusk patrol
vagrant fox
One of them hand cranked gatling guns but it's las 🥵
rose thorn
late osprey
i honestly cannot stand it when Imperial Guard regiments are just "history army... IN SPACE??"
i dont know why exactly, the aesthetic just drives me up a wall
all of the best regiments aren't really historical
crystal forum
i have named my DF dwarves after the regulars
crystal forum
is there an IG regiment that specializes in under-sea engagements
that is so specific
tough haven
is there an IG regiment that specializes in under-sea engagements
Aquaman ass guard
sacred bluff
I feel like I should watch dimension 20
green loom
i have named my DF dwarves after the regulars
What am I
crystal forum
What am I
forgor
i will find
you're my legendary armorsmith
making the most important stuff of the fortress
plush mason
lmao
i have been tempted to get dwarf fortress, but those kinds of games are bad for me
i lose all track of time just watching the settlement go about its routine when not building it up lol
vagrant fox
My adhd friend played it twice and lost days in a fugue state
opaque coyote
My adhd friend played it twice and lost days in a fugue state
that's me whenever I find like
a really good video game
opaque coyote
Also
You may not like it
But this is what peak Bolt Pistol performance looks like.
sacred ginkgo
This looks based off of the DT model
opaque coyote
Probably is tbh
Also I wonder if like
The T'au have shot any Xenos thinking it's a Daemon
I say T'au because I doubt the Imperium would care
"Is it a Daemon or a Xeno?"
"I DON'T FUCKING CARE. SHOOT IT!"
arctic talon
The T'au have shot any Xenos thinking it's a Daemon
Tau consider daemons xenos
Like great crusade imperium
The truth his hidden except to commanders, some members of the other castes and ethereals
queen laurel
<@783504501561753651> didnt you say you are watching the pro and noob wilds play...
Yeah i was
My pc isn't strong enough to play the game
arctic talon
I want the final boss of monster hunter stories 2
In a mainline
That design goes so incredibly hard
young pecan
Oh that's not too bad 
queen laurel
I want the final boss of monster hunter stories 2
yeah it's sick But I wouldn't mind seeing the first final boss in monster hunter stories one being the Makili Pietru and the light version being the Versa Pietru
but of course the lion elder dragon already has a contender being the black Air Force energy that is teostra
crisp heath
So humans consider tau xenos and tau consider humans xenos
sacred ginkgo
Well yeah why would they run by a different species race classifications
crisp heath
Space rasicm in a nut shell
opaque coyote
Tau consider daemons xenos
Still on the KoS list though right?
Same with Space Marines
dusk patrol
I’ll let you ponder that one
opaque coyote
Although I wonder how tf they can tell.
Since ngl some Xenos species look downright freaky.
Like do they just talk to them and hope they don't fuck them over
How can you tell if it's a "Daemon" or just a really weird Xenos species that happens to look like bloodthristers/Chaos Spawns/etc.
opaque coyote
They use the uggo chart
...
Actually it would fit if like
Some Xenos species turns evil because they look too ugly/"hostile"
Also kind of funny
Ugly people have an extra 65% chance to join Chaos
dusk patrol
Common flesh L
opaque coyote
Common flesh L
There are two paths to the glory of the Omnissiah
Becoming an inhuman amalgamation of wires, mechadendrites, and electronics
Or
Becoming Hatsune Miku
Spoiler warning
They're both the same
arctic talon
Still on the KoS list though right?
Yes
Chaos in general is on the kill on sight list
the Tau actually do take chaos corruption seriously
even suspected
see: sending la'kais from fire warrior to get "reeducated"
now granted he was absolutely corrupted by khorne
but no one knew that, they just sent his ass to the camps lol
opaque coyote
the Tau actually do take chaos corruption seriously
Honestly, with Chaos being Chaos, I think anybody would.
arctic talon
Well
But yeah la'kais is hilarious
it also makes the title cover of the game
much funnier retroactively
opaque coyote
now granted he was absolutely corrupted by khorne
Always loved how the Fire Warrior books basically were like
"Okay how do we explain any of this shit?"
"...Khorne willed it."
"Fuck it."
arctic talon
arctic talon
"...Khorne willed it."
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
opaque coyote
More like omnious foreshadowing honestly
arctic talon
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
opaque coyote
Honestly I fucking loved how throughout the entire thing, O'Kai's was like
"What the fuck??? HOW AM I STILL ALIVE??"
"AAAAA-"
Like he's more screaming in confusion if anything
Although also bloodthirsty rage
And like everybody is fucking terrified of him
arctic talon
I got the name wrong
well rank i guess
Kais is just common as shit as a tau name
He's a Shas'la
not an O
arctic talon
lol
opaque coyote
But seriously though, I do like how the book basically lampshades what a video game protagonist would be like on like
an outside POV
especially in 40k
As this single fire warrior basically kills scores of SMs and daemons
opaque coyote
Doing tactics that would be considered insane
arctic talon
they don't play down anything
they just make him absurdly blessed by Khorne
lol
its so fucking stupid
opaque coyote
they play it straight
Yeah, and honestly I love it. Probably the best decision made by the writers of the books lmao
arctic talon
but I love it
opaque coyote
Like even Kais acknowledges that he shouldn't be alive
arctic talon
yeah
opaque coyote
but I love it
Also fitting that despite all of what he did... he gets sent to a mental asylum
and is also permanently stained with Chaos
Despite being a "badass" that killed scores of men, he's sent to a dark fate.
And the gods laugh with reckless abandon.
late osprey
even though its impossible, i still like the idea that the same kais from Fire Warrior is the kais from Dawn of War
especially since its said the DoW kais is a student of the "Monat" strategy, which is the exact opposite of a strategy
and yet perfectly embodies Kais in Fire Warrior
arctic talon
Mhm
Also O’kais in the fire warrior novel
Has some stuff on Monat written on a charm
late osprey
personal fan theory is after Fire Warrior, Puretide picked him up and personally trained him on Monat and got him that kickass battlesuit
and then he gets gunned down by Davian Thule
arctic talon
Shame the timeline doesn’t work
arctic talon
Since fire warrior happens after pure tide gets engramed
arctic talon
True….
late osprey
frankly the idea of Monat as a legit strategy is just hilarious to me regardless
dusk patrol
Best not to think too hard on 40k strategies
late osprey
"Okay so we have Mont'Ka and Kauyon as two doctrines but there's also a secret third one... just send in one single guy LOL"
-Puretide
and all the tau around him are like "holy fuck..."
"a real military genius"
arctic talon
“just Tau Rambo or something idk”
late osprey
gentlemen, your Monat disciple
arctic talon
The cigar does not fit O’kais lmao
arctic talon
Bro would be on something way stronger
late osprey
what dude? you dont think "BIG SHAS" (actual model name) would smoke a cuban?
dusk patrol
More forehead wrinkles
late osprey
he actually should just have cartoonishly red skin
arctic talon
I do not think Big Shas would smoke a Cuban unfortunately
I think he’d be on that Tau nano machine steroid blend
late osprey
a pulse carbine in one hand, a bottle of Aun'Va's Special Reserve in the other
late osprey
i like that he's just got the one arm, that his gear is actually just bolted together
the cuban, the roids
arctic talon
This is a good exploitable image
arctic talon
the cuban, the roids
Ngl I kind of love cigars still exist commonly in the imperium
late osprey
Ngl I kind of love cigars still exist commonly in the imperium
i like to believe smoking is actually even worse for your health than IRL
inverse star trek situation
arctic talon
Lol
I mean with how polluted the imperium is in some places
And I’m sure the cheap stuff def isn’t the best quality
grim bolt
@green loom @crystal forum
was working on some more lore for Khorvusia
The Khorvusian noble houses, 5 in total tend to the needs of the citizens, each focusing on specific areas.
House Orgus
The oceanic noble house, they tend to oceanic fishing, aquatic crop groups, the ship yards and trade routes across the oceans of khorvusia. They are the 'weakest' of the noble houses, but still holds notable influence
House Charsing
The noble house of beasts and cattle, the ranchers, riders, and often cooks of Khorvusia, they tend to the massive animals orf Khorvusia that have been domesticated for usage, from the beast of burden Skygliders to the food producing Carriers.
House Albist
The noble house of soldiers, weaponry and the military branch, they control the militaries on the planet, and often deal with the inquisitions workings on the planet, be it bodyguard work or ensuring peaceful interactions between the civilians and the inquisition. The most powerful of the houses.
House Genstir
The noble house of machinery, production and industry. they maintain Khorvusias natural forests while working on the production of the planet, building the weapons and defenses of the planet, they have little ties to the cult of mars, often implimenting special forms of warp magic to weave living wood into mechanical impliments.
House Sinfeer
the noble house of agriculture, botany and medicine. They maintain khorvusias produce and medicine, working tirelessly to ensure the health of the khorvusian citizens, while also producing medicines to combat diseases across the milky way.
late osprey
Tbf the Imperium also adopted a similar strategy
true lmao
but for the imperium its because of budget cuts
acheran can only spare 3 men because he cant afford a 4th
opaque coyote
but for the imperium its because of budget cuts
Worked well enough for them so far, so no need to fix the system!
...the story of humanity right there
late osprey
Worked well enough for them so far, so no need to fix the system!
you do NOT want to know how the factions that get overbudgeted spend theirs
opaque coyote
you do NOT want to know how the factions that get overbudgeted spend theirs
Deldar moment
Necron Moment
late osprey
its on a LOT of space cubans
necrons definitely miss their narcotics
maybe they use like
magnets or something now instead
storm jungle
This is a good exploitable image
Rare moment where someone in a modern 40k artwork actually dies
😭
sleek dagger
Why GW went with age of sigmar? After a short read it just seems so shit lorewise compared to old world
crisp heath
Money. It's always money with them
queen laurel
Why GW went with age of sigmar? After a short read it just seems so shit lorewis...
as usual the common opnion is always this
crisp heath
And yes it's rushed I feel like
dusk patrol
sleek dagger
Now im bit annoyed I accidentally bought aos book
dusk patrol
This meme but AoS
queen laurel
Now im bit annoyed I accidentally bought aos book
dude you're judging an entire setting off of a short video
dusk patrol
Idk though, maybe it’s just you don’t like it
queen laurel
you are not setting up yourself very well with your opinion
storm jungle
Why GW went with age of sigmar? After a short read it just seems so shit lorewis...
-
Warhammer Fantasy was essentially deadweight and not selling at all to an abysmal level and needed a revamp.
-
Its not really shit by any means and sells extremely well and has pretty good lore, only its launch was was extremely bad and thats like years ago now.
sleek dagger
dude you're judging an entire setting off of a short video
What video
queen laurel
What video
oh my bad
I've been going through things so my reading comprehension has been going downhill but like
storm jungle
bulgur got hit with the warhammer brainrot
queen laurel
bulgur got hit with the warhammer brainrot
why do you think i'm an ork fan
storm jungle
sleek dagger
1) Warhammer Fantasy was essentially deadweight and not selling at all to an aby...
I suppose old world wasnt so popular, because only now warhammer is starting to get wind when people outside fanbase is beginning to find franchise
spring cairn
age of sugmar
storm jungle
I suppose old world wasnt so popular, because only now warhammer is starting to ...
Its not really to do with popularity
the game was just bad
queen laurel
I suppose old world wasnt so popular, because only now warhammer is starting to ...
don't let the community fool you age of sigmar is like GW second biggest earner
storm jungle
at the end of the day nuking WHF was the smartest decision
spring cairn
daily reminder that warhammer is an actual tabletop game this is so sad chat
queen laurel
at the end of the day nuking WHF was the smartest decision
yeah like we have multiple people here who played the old system and they can and we can say
crisp heath
Old world didn't sell at all really , I had a small dwarf army and goblins tho I really liked old world
storm jungle
if it wasnt for Total War/Vermintide basically nobody would care about WHF at this stage.
sleek dagger
Dunno, I have enjoyed a lot with old world through games but also books are interesting. Feels weird how its not appealing to people
storm jungle
I mean its not weird
queen laurel
if it wasnt for Total War/Vermintide basically nobody would care about WHF at th...
yeah and I would argue that bringing it back from the dead after disrespecting it with the worst send off I have ever seen is worse than making AOS
storm jungle
people like different things
sleek dagger
if it wasnt for Total War/Vermintide basically nobody would care about WHF at th...
Warhammer online was a super good mmo, but died too early
storm jungle
Warhammer online was a super good mmo, but died too early
Ehhh so and so.
sleek dagger
I still play private server
storm jungle
AOS has a lot of elements from Old World mixed with high fantasy stuff so people also like it for that reason as well
queen laurel
it also has the low fantasy aspects
storm jungle
(it also has so many good minis)
crisp heath
I think it's also Farr cheaper to build a decent army in
storm jungle
this especially yeah
crisp heath
Lotr had the same problem
storm jungle
its EXTREMELY welcoming to new players
crisp heath
So they made that new game using lotr figures
sleek dagger
if it wasnt for Total War/Vermintide basically nobody would care about WHF at th...
This brings one problem, GW gives license for anything so then there are very few good games, and lot of bad mobile games etc.
queen laurel
(it also has **so many** good minis)
people be saying age of sigmar is bad and that 40k models are way better on average, while not looking at this
storm jungle
This brings one problem, GW gives license for anything so then there are very fe...
Eh it is what it is, people would rather have a few great games amidst a sea of bad ones.
also unfortunately mobile games sell a lot
queen laurel
also unfortunately mobile games sell *a lot*
that's the thing with like GW they are so weirdly protective yet so OK with giving their license to everyone
storm jungle
Remeber the old ones <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
So old most of them got terminated 😭
crisp heath
I didn't really look into any of the lore past release smh so I may need to do that if you guys are saying it's fairly decent
sleek dagger
Why they didnt rework whf models and rules instead of making end of times setting
queen laurel
Why they didnt rework whf models and rules instead of making end of times settin...
they did rework them into new units
like the ogres are still essentially the same
crisp heath
They completely changed the whole regiment system and everything
queen laurel
The cities of sigmar are just old world empire dwarves and high elves
crisp heath
Which tbh is good
storm jungle
Why they didnt rework whf models and rules instead of making end of times settin...
Way easier said than done
the entire system, model line and etc were just bad-bad
it was way easier to start fresh and again it was the right decision
AOS is extremely well selling
crisp heath
I used to have the models and instead would play 40k
storm jungle
Yeah see what I mean
and FYI even 40k at this stage almost went under 4 times
so that says a lot that it was still the preferable setting for games
crisp heath
40k will always have a soft spot in my heart
I don't think there's much they can do to ruin it for me
And if they do ill just pretend it didn't happen
storm jungle
40k is way past its dark ages yeah lol
I only dont like Primaris aesthetically and thats kind of it really, i dont make a deal about it.
sleek dagger
It just sounds bullshit in a way, if you are creator of franchise you can change things. Is it because of production line? Then upgrade equipment
crisp heath
It allows things to get better too
storm jungle
if they did what you did it would just cost even more time, effort and losses
storm jungle
It allows things to get better too
^
Now WHF is back, even if its in its playdough miniature glory
queen laurel
if they did what you did it would just cost even more time, effort and losses
It was literally popping around the Internet that it was just better to bury the setting
storm jungle
AOS also allowed GW alongside 40k to get more financially stable
lots of new fans, players, miniatures for people to enjoy etc
queen laurel
Yeah like people that just **** on it have like basic surface level knowledge
It's genuinely a good setting you just have to look deeper
storm jungle
I hate the old WHF minis in this day and age because they just look terrible but yeah lmao
at least SOMETIMES they make new minis with them
queen laurel
I gotta say those frost ogre models look really cool
yeah the beast claw raider
queen laurel
I hate the old WHF minis in this day and age because they just look terrible but...
They brought back the old black orcs
sleek dagger
I personally wouldnt put money in minis at this point. Too much money for things that take space. Im more about books and games atm
storm jungle
Ogres my lord
storm jungle
I personally wouldnt put money in minis at this point. Too much money for things...
Well yeah but again this is a tabletop setting first and foremost
lore/books revolve around this factor at the end of the day
(however i also think minis cost too much and i just stick to the latter two)
queen laurel
Ogres my lord
Ogres followed by an eternal blizzard my lord
crisp heath
I gave up buying minis years back but doesn't mean I can't still enjoy wh , I LOVE the games
sharp pollen
Ogres my lord
men
storm jungle
Ogres followed by an eternal blizzard my lord
Me going out to down with the goons
storm jungle
I gave up buying minis years back but doesn't mean I can't still enjoy wh , I LO...
🤝
queen laurel
yeah i also engage through like lore books and other media because getting into the minis is like already a considerable effort
vagrant fox
I kind of want a few shelf minis but it's a not good for my wallet
green loom
I'm based I draw
storm jungle
if i ever bought a mini id get like 1 single thing
crisp heath
It's really not easy on the wallet hey
vagrant fox
I'm 99% sure 40k Eldar alone sold more than the entirety of WHF, there was just no incentive to fix WHF at that rate
and no one plays eldar
green loom
Pre 2014 you really didn't see anything selling much at all lol
Post Primaris the setting's popularity started to skyrocket
crisp heath
The shop dude will obviously end up having you buy more than u needed cause he talked you into starting a army for a project
crisp heath
Don't realise till you leave the store like heeey wait a second
storm jungle
Post Primaris the setting's popularity started to skyrocket
Also again this yeah
green loom
That's on you for failing the willpower save
storm jungle
this fandom is essentially braindead when it comes to understanding business practices
vagrant fox
That's how my friend got into Magic recently, he went to the store and walked out with half a deck
the fool
storm jungle
bald and foolish
crisp heath
Oh it's never happened to me I don't go to that place w more money than I'm willing to spend 💀
dapper gyro
Marketing+ Covid really boosted 40k popularity.
green loom
this fandom is essentially braindead when it comes to understanding business pra...
Or anything before it got popular, since realistically most fans only got in post semi mainstreaming and assume it's always been this "structured"
vagrant fox
I have to drive for an hour so I'm only ever tempted by online things and Steam taught me discipline
storm jungle
ive stepped into a GW store in 13 years only like 5-6 times, and every time it was just to buy books.
storm jungle
Or anything before it got popular, since realistically most fans only got in pos...
Also this yeah, and that with it brings a new wave of tomfoolery
green loom
I've never been to a GW store since they don't exist
dapper gyro
The games in the early 2010s also helped.
storm jungle
I've never been to a GW store since they don't exist
this but in Turkey 🇹🇷
crisp heath
I'll walk in and have a look at the models every now and then
storm jungle
theres like 1 store here in Istanbul and its across the fucking strait
i aint going there lmao
sleek dagger
They brought back the old black orcs
Yup BOs best
storm jungle
I'll walk in and have a look at the models every now and then
I remember seeing them for the first time
they are SO tiny
vagrant fox
On the kebab side?
storm jungle
On the kebab side?
vagrant fox
Man the little tyranids were so tiny my mom couldn't see them
dapper gyro
they are SO tiny
My main reason to never collect them.
dapper gyro
Im 1/32 master race.
crisp heath
Are made of wet paper
storm jungle
you mean Lord™️ of™️ The™️ Rings™️
crisp heath
So many Long flimsy spears
storm jungle
god i remember going to the store page
so many trademark symbols
the tolkien estate is crazy lmao
raven stone
the tolkien estate is crazy lmao
Crazier than GW and THAT is saying something...
vagrant fox
storm jungle
Yeaaaah lol
vagrant fox
Tolkien Estate is insane and it's a shame Christopher died because now we get all of this shitty TV slop
raven stone
Apparently the Amazon series fell hard on its face precisely because they couldn't get the Trademark rights on the character names
vagrant fox
absolutely
raven stone
(Alongside other reasons)
sacred bluff
Okay
queen laurel
Yup BOs best
i'm talking about the minis
sacred bluff
Hear me out
crisp heath
Amazon series was so bad
sacred bluff
Robert Pattison as Sanguinius
vagrant fox
naurrr
sacred bluff
His face is perfect for it
storm jungle
Sanguinius is like a twunk at best
vagrant fox
yung arnold scwharz for sanguinius or something like that
sleek dagger
i'm talking about the minis
I know, I only play in game now. My Blorcs I got years ago are in trash
green loom
I need Sanguinius to be as evil Aryan ubermensch looking as possible
dapper gyro
I want to eat Sanguy's chicken wings.
crisp heath
The guy from last of us
queen laurel
danny devito as sanguinus
sacred bluff
...
green loom
That'll do
crisp heath
Larry David as sanguinus
sacred bluff
spring cairn
Danny Devito should play inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau
vagrant fox
or owen wilson as sangboy
sacred bluff
Wow
crisp heath
The actor who plays tywin lannister would be the lion
sacred bluff
He old
crisp heath
Especially when they find him again
crisp heath
DA probably my second favorite loyalists after black templars lol
Sigismund in the heresy was a fucking Chad
vagrant fox
Space Marines remain cool, no matter what guardlets say 😎
storm jungle
The actor who plays tywin lannister would be the lion
man Dance is like the guy to look at a script at 40k be like "What is this trash"
vagrant fox
Gary Oldman too, so I want him included
crisp heath
People give me hate for tywin being my favorite charevter on that show
vagrant fox
I really love Oldman in Slough House or whatever it's called
storm jungle
LMAO
Why though hes a great character
im glad he fucking died before the show ran out of books
crisp heath
So much depth to him aswell cause he's not inherently a monster
storm jungle
Yeah hes a cunt but from very complex reasons
i love his background with his father/moms etc
vagrant fox
He was definitely the most engaging character in the series
dusk patrol
His wife die make him sad
sacred bluff
Oldman in Fifth element
crisp heath
He was the one running things when the lannisters had the crown
storm jungle
Also his son is an uggo dwarf
It was to make Tyrion relatable to the ugly af audience members, like us
sacred bluff
Also his son is an uggo dwarf
With charisma
vagrant fox
I'd disown my annoying dwarf son if he killed my beautiful wife I loved very much
storm jungle
LOL
storm jungle
I legit cannot get over the fact that Cersei is so fucked in the head she blames an infant for killing her mom.
Stupid bitch
dusk patrol
Not a Lannistah way to die
storm jungle
you know whats a Lanister way to die?
crisp heath
I also really liked Jamie's redemption
storm jungle
🧱
crisp heath
That was INCREDIBLE
storm jungle
I also really liked Jamie's redemption
"Actually, I dont really care about the people."
dusk patrol
He never really cared for his redemption arc anyways
sacred bluff
Jamie's redemption=meh
Sandor's redemption= 😌
storm jungle
Sandor my beloved
dusk patrol
“Redemption”
storm jungle
“Redemption”
AS LONG as we count it up to the mill building
after that yeah its not a redemption more like a suicide quest
sacred bluff
Sandor fighting Brieene was the hardest thing I watched
storm jungle
mood
sacred bluff
I didn't want either to die
vagrant fox
When was that stupid line, something like you want the good girl but you need the bad pussy
That's when I stopped watching
dusk patrol
You know in hindsight he was actually super lucky that Cersei went nuts
Otherwise he would have just gotten clapped
storm jungle
When was that stupid line, something like you want the good girl but you need th...
I took psychic damage reading this, hope you know that
vagrant fox
well good
storm jungle
I can fucking hear the line, in my head
storm jungle
very easy mistake, both are women
crisp heath
Isn't it funny how humans can feel embarrassment just from reading things lmao
vagrant fox
I read through the freakin books and it made me hate reading for like three years and then that line shows up and I dropped the show
storm jungle
Same
crisp heath
Or seeing someone embarrase themselves
crisp heath
Second hand embarrassment
vagrant fox
Patrick Rothfuss is gonna come out with another book before GRRM somehow
storm jungle
Real.
storm jungle
because the journey was about Brann