40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

no

[storm jungle]

the left ones look goofy af

[arctic talon]

its the Cadian hostile environment mask

[queen laurel]

oh i see

[arctic talon]

yeah

[storm jungle]

its like uhhh

[queen laurel]

or something like a radioactive gas world

[arctic talon]

I still like them

though

[storm jungle]

when leather gasmasks get scrunched lol

[queen laurel]

man they really are the most flexible regiment

[arctic talon]

not really

the mask is standard issue

[storm jungle]

that-

that makes it flexible

you fucking DINGUS 💀

[arctic talon]

Agripinaa is such a weird forgeworld

[storm jungle]

kantreal yourself, now

[arctic talon]

why the fuck don't they have their own lasgun pattern

[green loom]

Billy Mays here for the brand new flex mask

[arctic talon]

like this is a thing in lore lol

[queen laurel]

So have you seen other sculpts for the mask for the other guards ?

[arctic talon]

Yes

the old upgrade sprue FW sold

[keen nova]

I'm surprised we don't see cadia doing their own drop troops at this point

[arctic talon]

fit onto any empty face

now granted it was

[green loom]

I think Kasrkin do it

[arctic talon]

horrible quality

[keen nova]

I'm stealing this

[arctic talon]

also Cadians are using standard issue gear

so

[green loom]

The use of grav chutes technically isn't ruled out of use for anyone I think

[arctic talon]

if a cadian is using something

[green loom]

Drop troops are just trained for it specifically

[arctic talon]

then its prolly standard kit

except for like

the new agripinaa autogun on the upgrade sprue

which seems to be cadian specific

[queen laurel]

I mean like speaking on broad tactics like Cadians are like the most flexible guard regiment

[arctic talon]

oh

well yeah

[green loom]

The channel the might of great canada

[arctic talon]

they don't invent enough war crimes

[queen laurel]

oh yes speaking of war crimes i need to fix my GLA base Guard regiment

[keen nova]

My apologies, I wanted to keep up with chat. But yeah, there are deployed regiments with a speciality as they can't do combined arms. so you might get Cadian tankers working with tallarn infanty on taros and the like. or cadian infantry and kreig artilly, etc.

Elysians are (I think) only ever drop troops) but Perhaps there could be some from other not para focus worlds?

[arctic talon]

there's a few other drop troop regiments

one from the Fenrisian system, the harkon warhawks

and the phantine

[storm jungle]

No need to apologise we are just shooting the shit really

but also yeah its not really out of the question

its very much like a "gimmick"

being able to paratroop is mostly a resource/request dependant thing

[keen nova]

GLA?

PRIDE OF THE GLA

I"LL MAKE THE SCARFICE

[queen laurel]

Yes command and conquer Global Liberation Army

[rose thorn]

I adore that first and second gas mask

[small grail]

40,000 weapon variants

just for fun

[dapper gyro]

They are the same one, but with soft hat and no hat.

I really like that power sabre, I hope to see it in DT one day.

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[dusky scroll]

Do Death Guard plague (they spread during battle) impact Loyalist space marines too? Or are their immune system is strong enough to deal with it?

[dusk patrol]

They can

Not all are strong enough but we know the DA Supreme Grand Master before Azrael got infected with Nurgle's Rot while fighting Death Guard.

So he gave command to Azrael, gave him the Helm of the Lion and walked into the Rock's reactor.

It mostly is just harder for it to infect.

[dusky scroll]

I see! Thanks for the info

[sour hornet]

I'm glad they have the top row, so I can use these on my non-c*dian figures

[dapper gyro]

You can just paint the hat a different colour...

[dusk patrol]

I guess they might not like the hats but, idk I feel like those are all easy to convert to whatever

[raven stone]

Just as a general rule of thumb - all Nurgle originating diseases can be considered to be “alive” and “malignant” to the point that they invalidate even the best reality-rules-based medical sciences. Faith might actually be the best inoculation, but even that is not guaranteed to always work.

A part of why Nurgle has not won yet is because the diseases work so well, they convert or kill living beings before the rot can actually spread too far. That, and to a very indirect extent, Nurgle himself is also a Chaos entity that “plays” with mortals so he isn’t interested in killing everything off immediately either.

(And on a non-Nurgle note, same for Scrapcode, “Chaos computer virus”. It is also semi sentient, a computer virus smart enough to think about how to cause the most widespread damage, destruction and misery.)

[storm jungle]

Perfect explanation yeah

[sharp pollen]

first message i see in lore chat today - BLACK ALSO WOMEN

how i know this morning is good

[near wasp]

Speaking of nurgle I've been inflicted with his rot

[storm jungle]

Same, I also got a runny nose and a headache 💀

[queen laurel]

one time the green zogger subjected me to the most brutal asthma beating i've gotten as of late

[near wasp]

I'm just I'll from stress

[dusk patrol]

Well then, you better go catch it!

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

[dusk patrol]

You can’t kill me, I’ve been working out while listening to Jeffery Dean Morgan talk about eating young alien hybrid children’s hearts

I’m

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[storm jungle]

[near wasp]

You know what just for that you get to live

Conquest is perhaps the greatest role JDM has done since John Winchester

[dusk patrol]

I hope they expand his role a bit more from the comic

[near wasp]

I've never read the comics

[dusk patrol]

He doesn’t chit chat as much

They added a lot of character to him with this

Like the bit about being lonely

And how all the other Viltrumites are scared of him and all that

[green loom]

Darkblood plot Darkblood plot Darkblood plot

[dusk patrol]

Yass

[near wasp]

Ederius you demon simp

[dusk patrol]

That’s all new too, which is fun

[near wasp]

But yes

Dark blood plot

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-conquest-conquest-hello-chat-stand-ready-for-my-arrival-invincible-hello-chat-gif-13038544277166512740

[near wasp]

Every word out of conquests mouth was a banger

[dusk patrol]

They made him so fucking sinister and menacing

[near wasp]

Some people were complaining about the casting of conquest, they are just objectly wrong

[storm jungle]

"Im so lonely"

Hes just like us for real. Including wanting to rip apart a 3 year old

[dusk patrol]

In the comic he’s great but they just added too it, he’s so calculating

[green loom]

I do be a Slaanesh enjoyer

https://tenor.com/view/lore-master-helltaker-azazel-gif-21895785

[near wasp]

Fr fr

[storm jungle]

it helps that you can tell like its mostly changes 100% from Kirkman

[dusk patrol]

The bit with Oliver was so fucked up too

[storm jungle]

Legit for once made me uncomfortable

like i know he isnt gonna die

but christ the sound effects as hes slowly pulling him off 💀

[dusk patrol]

Thank god he has an eidetic memory right?

[queen laurel]

i love the fact that he doesn't lie, he knows he's a monster but he would live no other way

[near wasp]

That shot as Oliver was entering the fight and we can see the city falling apart was so beautiful

[dusk patrol]

Maybe next time he’ll remember not to catch those hands

Yeah that whole part with Oliver trying to follow the fight

Also ffs Mark

Can you even try to keep it away from cities

[near wasp]

90 percent of this seasons money went into that episode

[dusk patrol]

Like, most of the world isn’t cities

It shouldn’t be that hard

[near wasp]

One viltrumite used him as a weapon to kill a subway, the other used him as a subway to kill a city

[dusk patrol]

I wish Eve was a tenth as creative with her powers as Viltrumites are with Marks face

[near wasp]

💀

[dusk patrol]

She finally did something neat

Once

And then never again smh

And no I don’t mean her bullshit activating

[raven stone]

Eve falls into the weird category of “so powerful the writers have to nerf her for the plot to happen…”

[storm jungle]

as ever i must post the clip

👊

[near wasp]

My exact reaction

[storm jungle]

LMFAO

[near wasp]

Bro I'm so pissed about rex still

https://tenor.com/view/angry-dog-puppy-mad-crazy-rabid-gif-3415696812491665261

[dusk patrol]

Basically

[queen laurel]

do you have clip of conquest absolutely slapping oliver to the floor when he tried to go in for the punch

[dusk patrol]

I really love that shot of Oliver punching him and sliding up

It’s so smooth

I expect they’re going to

Heavily change how Eves arc after this is done in the comics

[near wasp]

I mean they have apparently made a lot of changes from the comic

[storm jungle]

yeah but its not that extreme

again since Kirkman is directly overseeing it

a lot of them are from him since he admits the comic was sloppy in some aspects and i kinda agree

[near wasp]

Comic usually are compared to the shows they get made into

Looks at the boys

[storm jungle]

yeah but thats another deal

the Boys comic is a literal pile of shit

Ennis is also a complete jackass

[queen laurel]

That's an insult to a pile of shit

It was so abysmal and garbage that I think it should become a standard of measurement

Dude this is so bad it reminds me of the boys comic

[storm jungle]

Garth Ennis not be racist, sexist, homophobic or use slurs in a comic in every page challenge

[raven stone]

When you do any media for the first run, there will be ideas that only manifest later…so when you do the same story again, you suddenly realised a lot of things can be streamlined.

Glares at RWBY.

[near wasp]

rt stepped all over the creators work after he died

[dusk patrol]

Yeah without spoiling I expect a lot of changes to the ending and later arcs.

Make them less, weird but also build to them better

The comic isn’t bad it’s just some stuff is a bit idk

[storm jungle]

Yeah theres way too much stuff happening, its prob for the best to not also confuse the audience too much lol

[dusk patrol]

It’s hard to describe without going into it but I expect the actual dramatization of some events will help a lot

[storm jungle]

like, we got people not understanding Angstrom is batshit insane, i cant imagine them not being able to understand future plotpoints

[dusk patrol]

[near wasp]

People were like why would angstrom work with mark

Idk he probably has brain damage from multiple sources

[dusk patrol]

There’s subtle clues in the show which point to Angstrom being batshit insane

Easy to miss though

If only they explained it to us at some point

[raven stone]

There is that, but there is also the sad fact that Mounty isn't stellar at plot writing either...

[near wasp]

Angstrom is more put together than most crazy people, well he wasn't after mark beat him but you know

[dusk patrol]

I am, REALLY, looking forward to how they do later Battle Beast scenes

Especially when he meets Mark again since in the comic they never met prior

[queen laurel]

why did he recruit the evil version that cost him so much pain that's the point

The guy is so maniacally insane he can no longer give a shit

[dusk patrol]

Battle Beast is gonna take like 50% of the budget for at least one season

[near wasp]

Can't wait for him to shower in viltrum blood

[storm jungle]

hes gonna awaken a lot of furries thats for sure

(this is a positive)

[dusk patrol]

He probably has the highest body count for pure Viltrumites by the end

And also he kills the most

Hey oh

[near wasp]

Ok furry

[storm jungle]

🫵

[dusk patrol]

(No he doesn’t fuck any sorry furries)

[storm jungle]

I mean

[dusk patrol]

They really should have tried to fuck him though

[storm jungle]

he does kinda fuck a character who can be considered anthro

[near wasp]

[dusk patrol]

If only Anissa was down for some cat on cat action

[storm jungle]

YEET

[dusk patrol]

Legit though a Viltrumite hybrid kid of his, jfc that would be unstoppable

[storm jungle]

Battle-Beast basically has a primarch backstory so that checks out lol

[dusk patrol]

He’s Doomsday if he was a little less insane

[storm jungle]

I legit love the like

leaves his planet after killing every hostile force on it because otherwise he'll massacre the populace

[plush mason]

can Viltrumites even hybridize with others?

[storm jungle]

Yep they can

[dusk patrol]

Oliver

[storm jungle]

their gene is the dominant one

[dusk patrol]

They can fuck anything

[near wasp]

Marks nearly like pure viltrumite

[storm jungle]

Yeah this will get explored next season

with uh

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-tool-mickey-mouse-mickey-clubhouse-gif-18764497

[storm jungle]

freddy mercury arriving

[plush mason]

thats what i mean, Omniman told Mark he was likely pure Viltrumite due to how dominant their genes are

[dusk patrol]

They sadly cut the Viltrumite sperm line

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

The Darkblood stuff is cool though since it’s entirely new

Kirkman said he wanted to do a plotline of Mark going to Hell or whatever but couldn’t fit it in

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/xal'atath-world-of-warcraft-war-within-retail-wow-gif-10359746772083615557

Darkblood mentioned

[dusk patrol]

I said Darkblood not Filthblood

[plush mason]

technically the blood of the old gods is called black blood but dark blood works too :P

[storm jungle]

Ah yes my favorite WoW character: Feet

[dusk patrol]

The only important thing is that they’re bleeding

[plush mason]

oh they already bled, the blood is just left over and can give some crazy power to those willing to use it

[plush mason]

you know what they say about fantasy writing and fetishes lmao

[dusk patrol]

Oh no I seem to have made all races females super sexy women with almost no clothes and massive tits

My bad

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

[storm jungle]

We gotta let them cook once in awhile

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[storm jungle]

also late but here

little bro thought he had a chance 💀

[queen laurel]

the grot thinking he finally has a chance to kill a ironjaw brute

[sharp pollen]

the choreography of battles in invincible is bomba

ecstatic

[storm jungle]

for real

[sharp pollen]

animators just dont hold back

[storm jungle]

the jump in quality is funny

[sharp pollen]

well i guess they wanted the very last episode to be the best

seemed like an anime

[green loom]

Xalatoes

[sharp pollen]

i wonder if oliver will be a bit taller in season 4

[dusk patrol]

I wouldn’t be shocked if like 60% of the budget was on this episode

[sharp pollen]

was worth it

[storm jungle]

Nah it absolutely was

like-

they even animated his hair moving and shit

which is like an actual first-time thing lmao

lots of little animation details in this

[sharp pollen]

i like how we see Conquest for like 20 minutes total but he is instantly likeable

like...

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-desperado-winds-ofdestruction-sundowner-grin-gif-18169825

[storm jungle]

Lmfao yeah thats the same as the comics

he barely has like a single issue's screentime but still makes a huge impact (literally) on Mark's journey in the story

its super good

[sharp pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185650537790713984/1349768789268496446/pokothemoco_2025-03-13-19-33-15_1741879995618.mp4?ex=67d44da4&is=67d2fc24&hm=8a83acf682c571263f166d2780d7fa710c2c359cfe389ca8a8616a513c20f374&

i cant get rid of this music in my head

[dusk patrol]

There are not enough fires in hell

To punish you for this properly

But you have my thanks

[sharp pollen]

i am already in torture

[sleek dagger]

Has it yet been confirmed from which chapter Blood Ravens come? Thousand sons or word bearers?

[sharp pollen]

i am already being tormented

[dusk patrol]

Unknown.

Thousand sons have been directly denied by GW

And they have never confirmed a chapter as traitor descended so

[sleek dagger]

Could thousand sons be exluded if they didnt suffer from rubicon spell

[dusk patrol]

That’s part of the issue

[sleek dagger]

Ah yea

So basically word bearers

[storm jungle]

💀

[dusk patrol]

[storm jungle]

fucking Robot

[dusk patrol]

In hindsight

Certain later events shouldn’t be much a surprise

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah nah absolutely

but people dont know that yet

[dusk patrol]

We’re ||gonna get Eren Jaeger 2.0 when that happens||

[sharp pollen]

fucking spoilers

i already read jojo during s5 when i didnt want to wait for new episodes, but i dont want to read invincible

[dusk patrol]

The good news is they’re putting the afterburners on the episodes it seems

Season 4 is early next year

Depending on how they do it I could easily seem them doing 7-8 seasons

To give an idea of where we are, there’s 144 issues and this season ended at about 65 I think.

[hallow basin]

144 issues? How are they gonna solve all of those?

[sharp pollen]

are there minis of regiments of penal legions

[dapper gyro]

Yes, you can homebrew them all you want.

[dapper gyro]

When people see that it is barely half way through.

[spring cairn]

maybe we'll hit hammer and bolter level of animation if that's the case

https://tenor.com/view/slideshow-tyler-the-creator-meme-gif-20359050

[hallow saddle]

Just got the shipping notification

Tracked 24 hour delivery, should deffo get my EC box and chaos lord tomorrow!!!!!!

Fuuuuuck yes

[sharp pollen]

i mean official ones

not homebrew

with its own rule book even

[raven stone]

THINGS WILL GET LOUD NOW!

...Sorry.

[spare osprey]

It’s cool that we’re gonna get ||Jason Mantzoukas|| back at some point tho

[spare osprey]

Only penal legion mini I can think of is from the inquisition kill team

[raven stone]

@sharp pollen if you want Penal Guardsmen, you might have to ebay hunt for some really, really old lead minis...

Back in 3rd edition there was a squad called Schaffener's Last Chancets

[sharp pollen]

bro i would fucking never buy any minis

overpriced af

im just asking if there are any

[raven stone]

That's fair

Just wanted to answer in full context re:penal Legionnaire minis :p

[dapper gyro]

They don't get many representations on the table top.

Most likely because they would overlap with the guards, which is already have quite a bit of options.

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fred-durst-freddy-fazbear-fred-durst-my-generation-gif-2417024919545966780

[plush mason]

who

https://tenor.com/view/flat-fuck-friday-gif-12833647290064982884

[hallow saddle]

trust me its already loud as fuuuuuck!!!!!!!!

[rose thorn]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/5bw2u5ap/painting-zone-mortalis-how-to-paint-up-an-eerie-necromunda-underhells-in-no-time/

This is the longest article I’ve ever seen

[gray umbra]

oh lord

[queen laurel]

they have the capability to spawn daemon host more now

how is tertium still standing pretty well

[raven stone]

WUT

[raven stone]

Oh my the ritual actually DOES something...

[gray umbra]

super buffed unstunnable healing daemonhosts too

(depending on modifiable)

oh wait, i misread elites only 🙂

[spring cairn]

regen all you want

won't save you from the dreaded one shot

[gray umbra]

its probably gonna be the same as the current modifiers in high rank havoc

its the regulars and elites that wipe the party

[queen laurel]

watch a zealot assinate the shit out of these guys

[raven stone]

Chatting elsewhere got me thinking.
Imagine a 40k story…written from the perspective…

…of a Warp Demon.

[hallow basin]

There's gotta be somethign like that out there

[green loom]

I think there's a changeling short story

One moment

[raven stone]

I think the best way to write 40k demons would be a weird sort of “black and orange” morality.
The way they perceive the world so very differently…but when they manage to attain a human perspective, they default to the most evil option anyways.

[green loom]

Nvm it's in a space wolf book

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/m97yb9/book_excerpt_legacy_of_russthe_changeling_plays/

[misty vector]

Theres a subplot in like ahriman 3 too that follows the changeling

[raven stone]

Odd lore question since I need to brush up on this…

How much of a secret are Grey Knights nowadays?
Would Rogue Traders know about them in full or just as rumours?

[storm jungle]

It entirely depends tbh

Like pre-rift they were basically non-existant or mythical, only higher echelon Inquisitors knew them to some extent

Nowadays its so and so, some of the populace kinda know of them now but the others dont just as much since again huge galaxy

a Rogue Trader would be privy to the information if they had some Inquisitor pal that made them witness what the GK can do on some campaign and the like

[queen laurel]

And to be honest no one would probably believe them because they are still pretty much mainly secrets

and well if you tell someone sooner or later you will get a bullet through the brain

[raven stone]

Well noted with thanks - with the RT I have in mind I will just go with the “rumours they heard about” angle then (on the assumption they have not been briefed beforehand)
That, and yea, even our Darktide dudes and dudettes think they are rumours or propaganda despite knowing their name…

[arctic talon]

Very much still hushed rumor territory, scary silver space marines, but they don't murder everyone now

[storm jungle]

well in our case we are ordo hereticus

also onboard a rogue trader vessel

[arctic talon]

also they did pubilically show up on Terra

like in a recorded propaganda parade

[storm jungle]

Yeah that too

[arctic talon]

now granted people just thought they were some random ass space marine chapter

[storm jungle]

it was there they realised "we cannot purge the entirety of terra"

lol

[arctic talon]

but they clearly don't mind showing themselves publically now

[raven stone]

This would make most sense, especially since they paraded on Terra…

Their true purpose is a secret

[queen laurel]

OK so does that mean that when I'm wandering in the sewers and I accidentally see one killing a demon manifesting on the place how good are my chances of living now

[raven stone]

But their existence is half opened up per se.

[storm jungle]

Bad.

[arctic talon]

yeah

[queen laurel]

nothing changes then

[storm jungle]

well yeah

[arctic talon]

their apperance/the fact they exist is somewhat known

[storm jungle]

because GK lore is fucking stupid

[arctic talon]

but their true job/goals/when they show up when shit hits the fan

that varies

sometimes they kill everyone because daemonic corruption™️

[storm jungle]

only special boys get spared and get mindwiped instead

aka sororitas and other marines

then they fight daemonic enemies a week later

yes this doctrine makes perfect sense

[queen laurel]

yeah and people genuinely wonder how the imperium is failing

[raven stone]

I mean, there is a reason why Exorcists are nicknamed “reasonable Grey Knights”…

[arctic talon]

Scions and Skitarii as well oddly lol

[queen laurel]

Instead of you know lecturing and trusting their man it's better to just execute them

[storm jungle]

They got an inbuilt button

so prob easier

[arctic talon]

LOL

[queen laurel]

like entire regiments

[storm jungle]

:)))

[queen laurel]

Get ******* executed

[arctic talon]

yeah just touch the scions where the drill abbot touched them

[queen laurel]

If they see even a single grey knight

[arctic talon]

not anymore

grey knights showing up != death for you

[storm jungle]

Charadon?

[arctic talon]

Lets be real here

those people were going to die

[raven stone]

I think GW finally realised how “kill when seen” is stupid when they wanted Grey Knights to be a plug in for other armies.

[arctic talon]

anyways to some horrific nurgle pox

but yes they did kill like

almost everyone at Charadon

shouldn't have let multiple greater daemons manifest

dumbasses

[raven stone]

But Grey Knights are definitely given a mandate to kill anything corrupted or too risky to leave alive.

[queen laurel]

They also showed up in Armageddon right because with how bloody bad the fighting is it's becoming a Khorne planet

[raven stone]

which will lead to some weird funni spec ops situations if an Inquisitor needs to rescue someone held by Chaos forces before the Grey Knights hit a site…

[arctic talon]

I do like how in Maledictum

the GK killteam you can call on if you're working for a malleus inquisitor

is referred to as a <Redacted> sanction

[raven stone]

Nice

[arctic talon]

comedy

[queen laurel]

OK wolf quick question since we're talking about chaos here

Out of the fantasy age of sigmar and 40K which one has the best chaos corruption cleansing options

[arctic talon]

Uh

neither?

Probably Sigmar

because there's non chaos gods

But for 99.99% of people

hahahahahahahahaha no

[queen laurel]

yeah in age of sigmar you have like plenty of options in order

and if that it wasn't enough destruction can also help because of their weird magics

[raven stone]

You know, a late but interesting observation…

There are no Poxbursters in the Meatgrinder testing range.

I wonder if that is just a design decision, or if there is a lore reason behind it…

[storm jungle]

Probably the devs just forgor.....

[raven stone]

Imagine if they reveal there is a lore reason 🤣

[storm jungle]

[fallow rover]

okay small thing, but I've heard some ppl say that it doesn't make sense that the autoguns are so modern in terms of their design, with brass cases and all that, but imo I think it's possible that tthe autoguns you see in game aren't actual descendents of the weapons we have in the modern day, which might have went out of fashion in the dark age of tech, instead I mean, who knows? maybe an industrialised human world came up with the design independently and the imperium just liked them enough to use them occassionally

same with stubb guns and revolvers

[storm jungle]

I mean

[fallow rover]

like these are fairly simple designs

[storm jungle]

you dont really need a base to make ballistic weapons in a sci-fi society

[sharp pollen]

just put it in some place alone

[storm jungle]

anyone could have just randomly invented them like how we did it here

[fallow rover]

thats what I mean

[paper haven]

Most words sit on a sliding scale of industrial development and solid ammunition is gonna be the natural choice. Weapons design will likely follow similar patterns because the shape fits human hands and helps with recoil.

[storm jungle]

Yeah automatic weapons even in lore are said to just be always "around" because ballistic weapons are just something humans would invent in any era, so people thinking they are "descendants" of modern weapons we have now prob kinda miss the point

(also dont read the lore behind them)

[fallow rover]

I think the kroot use muskets

[storm jungle]

they arent muskets but they are close in design

its mostly the rule of cool lol

The Kroot rifle fires a solid slug propelled by a chemical reaction, although it has been adapted by the Tau to fire charged pulse rounds, giving it the equivalent stopping power of a boltgun. Blades are attached near the muzzle and the stock, emulating the style of traditional Kroot fighting staves. These allow the weapon to be used both at range and in close combat. It is still quite bulky however, and so is not combined with other weapons

[arctic talon]

I do like all the variations

of kroot rifles we see

funniest shit ever is the old metal kroot shaper

having RNG guns

where GW had like 3 dif moulds and the kit would just have whatever in it lol

[paper haven]

Firearms are a genetic memory for humanity. It's inevitable.

[dapper gyro]

Even in real life, there are many firearms that look so similar that people think they are related, but their mechanisms are completely different.
They only look similar because of the convergent development/evolution.

[paper haven]

Firearms are one of the cases of function over form. They look the way they look because they wouldn't work otherwise.

[raven stone]

Unless you are a Bethesda weapon designer…

[fallow rover]

how did the tau make that

shoot pulse rounds

arent pulse rounds just plasma

why not just give them modded pulse rifles

[paper haven]

Bethesda weapons give me an aneurism.

[queen laurel]

Prefer to stick with their old ways

But they don't mind their own ways getting modified with better improvements of course

[tough haven]

they like their gunblades

[queen laurel]

Just like snake bite orks

Like they choose the old ways because it works

[storm jungle]

Because they got technology.

simple as

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's like taking a pistol and modifying it to shoot explosive rounds that disintegrate someone from the inside by forcing them to relieve their memories 100 times over

If you have the technology for it you can just do that

[sharp pollen]

is there a toothpaste in 40k

[storm jungle]

no, they brush their teeth with shit

[queen laurel]

This is just like that one reddit post

History does repeat itself

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/no-this-is-a-bucket-gasp-no-way-gif-18649024

[arctic talon]

pulse rounds are a very small solid round covered in plasma

[sharp pollen]

alright, ask those with good mood, not shit mood
is there a toothpaste in 40k

[arctic talon]

its a really tiny round

[arctic talon]

idk probably

[vagrant fox]

We've had some form of toothpaste since ancient egypt, so probably. Nothing confirmed though

[arctic talon]

Also Kroot rifles modified for pulse munitions

tend to have pulse rifle bits on them

[queen laurel]

Do kroots still prefer like the old ways or are they willing to use like more advanced tech now

[storm jungle]

depends on the band

Kroot got a wild culture

[arctic talon]

^

[queen laurel]

Oh really i thought they were just straight up like snake bites, they prefer the old ways but because they are so good at the old ways they can still keep up

[storm jungle]

like, the most solid "rule" Kroot even have is to not eat tyranids

aside from that all bands do their own thing

[queen laurel]

Glad to know that they are willing to use technology

[queen laurel]

And necrons

[arctic talon]

no eating nids or genestealers/infected iirc

[arctic talon]

thats not a rule

[storm jungle]

We do see a kroot eat one

[arctic talon]

^

[storm jungle]

it starts regenerating in his stomach

💀

[arctic talon]

try it once

[queen laurel]

Yeah so you're telling me that they didn't make that a rule

[arctic talon]

the snack that bites back

[sharp pollen]

lmao

[fallow rover]

is that

[arctic talon]

also kroot usually avoid "tainted" meat

[queen laurel]

Look they need to pass the law that eating regenerating metal is bad

[fallow rover]

like

[outer wave]

Kroot the Paunch moment

[arctic talon]

chaosy stuff

[fallow rover]

possible?

[arctic talon]

idfk

[storm jungle]

dude

its sci-fi

[queen laurel]

This is 40k homie

Just let it slide don't dig too much on it

[arctic talon]

I don't think the solid projectile does anything

its for the plasma to like

[fallow rover]

lmao ok

[arctic talon]

"form" around

[storm jungle]

We got a gun in-universe that literally de-atomises you lol

[arctic talon]

or some shit lol

[queen laurel]

I know you want to understand the intricacies of science and warp but it's not going to help you here

[arctic talon]

its also old lore

[sharp pollen]

eat a tyranid, we'll see what happens

[arctic talon]

this was in the 3e codex

and has not been mentioned since

so maybe GW wants us to forget about it LOL

[fallow rover]

ifair enough

[shadow plover]

Where's this from

[fallow rover]

and very fantasy sci fi as well

[storm jungle]

that awful fucking Kasrkin book

[shadow plover]

😔

[outer wave]

Think of 40k less of a sci fi setting and more as "Fantasy in space" because alot of shit really doesnt make much sense

[shadow plover]

maybe I'll need to sacrfice a good 10 hours for a neat 30 minutes

[storm jungle]

the kroot sits at dinner with a dementia necron lord and is spasming out while the kasrkin across him is like "What the fu-"

[queen laurel]

They didn't think to write that incident down as like a thing not to do

[arctic talon]

god that book is ass

[storm jungle]

well it was ilike 1 kroot

[queen laurel]

I mean they did it for the giant space dinosaur bugs

[storm jungle]

everything from that author has been awful

[sharp pollen]

thats some alisa in wonderland shit

[storm jungle]

5 space marines kill an entire dark eldar kabal

[fallow rover]

idk they do got some sci fi stuff.

[storm jungle]

also they got a magical autistic kid with them

[shadow plover]

dementia necron as in flayed ones?

[storm jungle]

Nah a overlord

[fallow rover]

but yeah its mostly surreal sorta fantasy sci fi

[storm jungle]

he has an AI looking after him

the book is really bad lmao

[outer wave]

Mhm mhm

[arctic talon]

oh the carcharadon one?

god

[fallow rover]

40k is a really unique setting

[queen laurel]

What's the name of the author so that i may avoid

[storm jungle]

Silent Hunters

[arctic talon]

that book is a crime

against my eyes

[storm jungle]

it also has a dark eldar like-

save himself from slaanesh

by being a drug addict????

[arctic talon]

and against anyone who likes 40k

[storm jungle]

and she spits him out????

????????????????

WHAT

[arctic talon]

I've not met a single person

who likes silent hunters

[queen laurel]

It's evolving just backwards

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

Also

@shadow plover

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShaskaisWarhamBits/comments/yk0pl6/summary_of_the_karskin_novel_by_edoardo_albert/

[arctic talon]

lol

[storm jungle]

Here, shaskais coming in to the rescue

[queen laurel]

What's the name of the author

[shadow plover]

oh that's a whole lot of text

[storm jungle]

Yeah its the whole book essentially

if you are curious just search for "kroot"

CTRL+F that shit

[arctic talon]

Edoardo Albert

[queen laurel]

Oh come on you have the patience to paint minies you have the patience to read

[arctic talon]

he sucks

[shadow plover]

Watching severance now, might later

[storm jungle]

Damn, good excuse

[storm jungle]

he has like 3 books atm and they are all bad

im not gonna be surprised if he just disappears

[queen laurel]

How bad we talking nick kyme?

[arctic talon]

Worse

[storm jungle]

Even worse

[arctic talon]

Kyme at least doesn't break lore

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

he's just bad at writing

[queen laurel]

So goto

[arctic talon]

honestly

yeah

about that fucking tier lol

[storm jungle]

yep i agree lol

[arctic talon]

marginally better

but still

awful

[queen laurel]

All right fellows a second c s goto has hit terra

[arctic talon]

anyways there's uh

some random space shark

who's older then fucking dirt

in Silent hunters as well

truly incredible

[fallow rover]

also im an artist so I pay attention to these things, so like. while 40k is not realistic obv, wizards and giant stompy men, it is pretty consistent and believable in many ways.

like, yeah, the imperium uses giant mechs bc it's cool, but also bc of their culture and religion. and that shows in the way the titans look. the imperium doesn't see war as a science like we do in the modern day, they see it as an art, and that leads to impracticality because they're don't think of things in terms of force multipliers and getting every teensy little advantage they possibly can, they think of it in terms of how can we best please the emperor/omnissiah and kill the heretics as well

[arctic talon]

yes!

[storm jungle]

to be fair its largely rule of cool

titans in general make no sense in any way

if this was real life with no restrictions most titans would get orbitally bombarded like in the horus heresy trailer

lol

[fallow rover]

and idk I don't really think I've ever seen a series so authentically portray a medieval worldview in that way, let alone apply it to a sci fi setting. 40k is special.

[outer wave]

Mechs sadly are so inefficient in practicality

[vagrant fox]

Aren't there three who're more or less Dante aged or above or do I misremember

[storm jungle]

Theres a lot better ones who do the medieval POV job well

[queen laurel]

Yes tanks rule the battlefield the prime armor heavy support

[storm jungle]

40k's approach to middle ages stuff is sparse

its mostly whatever the author kinda read on a wiki

[outer wave]

Drones may be changing that a bit nowadays

[queen laurel]

Yeah honestly a good chunk of 40k would take a surface level inspiration and modify it into something great

This is also pretty similar in the other warhammer settings

They see something they want to make something out of and they make it

And the result is either it's a hit or a miss

[fallow rover]

see this is what I'm talking abt, yeah they are definitely impractical but practicality isn't rlly the reason that the imperium uses them, they're walking cathedrals and monuments. they do it because they see war as an art

[raven stone]

I think it’s a very nice mixture of both…

It gets even more complex when you get to the space warfare aspect. Giant ass floating cathedral fortresses in space as spaceships actually make sense when you consider the fact that (1) Warp travel passes through hell and (2) warp jumps can only be conducted between set Mandeville points, so you might as well fortify the shit out of said points…

…and as much as I detest this aspect, it makes sense the Imperial Navy favours Big Guns rather than Fighters or bombers. Far less training involved.

[storm jungle]

Yeah they do but im talking more from a sensible standpoint

otherwise yeah its just rule of cool

[queen laurel]

Or as a waste of resource because they want to flex their power as a great empire

[shadow plover]

I do think this sorta thinking is a tad too reductive, lots of the writers are still doing proper research even if there are a couple less interesting writers

[fallow rover]

eh, yeah, true. I still think it's cool that they even think about these things though.

[storm jungle]

Id agree but ive seen some awful shit in my years of raeding BL

sector wide war
8 million people die

meanwhile WW2

💀

[arctic talon]

just use the Armored Core 4A method

where the mech is practically a jet

[fallow rover]

yeah, ofc, but the imperium is not sensible and they don't want or try to be

[storm jungle]

Yeah but its also pretty much for convenience's sakes to some degree

[outer wave]

Yeah but a giant war effigy representing the power of my country and it isnt a waste of taxdollar money is kinda cool and based!!!!!!!!

[raven stone]

Writers cannot math lol

[gray umbra]

bolters themselves are regarded

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-horus-heresy-gif-25203003

me when big robot

[gray umbra]

its just cool to shoot 40mm exploding diamantine tipped rounds

[queen laurel]

Casualties number around the amount of people in a random town around the usa

[sharp pollen]

i know whats cooler

shooting anything bigger than 40mm

[raven stone]

I mean, if we really want to talk about Titans…
Consider the fact that it’s the Ad Mech that builds them.
In that sense, they are the ultimate effigy of a man/machine fusion.

[gray umbra]

wading into a ranged battle with a melee weapon

oh

[outer wave]

Me, a big robot fan
😔 🔫

[raven stone]

Most of the other Imperial ground forces just stick with tanks.

[fallow rover]

a titan/knight is a monument to the imperium's hubris and pride

really, it's more like a giant church that they decided to strap weapons onto because the imperium is insane and wants to kill everything

[vagrant fox]

That ship is in rather low orbit, but it's cool

[arctic talon]

GW is better at it now

[fallow rover]

the guard are more practical/"realistic", yeah, maybe partially bc theyre on a budget?

[arctic talon]

I LOVE QUADRILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON TERRA
RAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[raven stone]

More Ad Mech, if we are being strict with lore. But yes, a sign of hubris nonetheless.

[queen laurel]

Pffft amateur

[fallow rover]

true true

[outer wave]

I love it when the cathedral walks to my house and kills me because I skipped Sunday mass

[fallow rover]

god machines

[queen laurel]

If you know you know

[arctic talon]

shokkjump dragsta

[queen laurel]

Yep that's the one

If you know what i mean you know what i mean

[fallow rover]

but my point isn't really so much that the titans and knights make total sense you guys or that they're practical in an actual space war, but moreso that I totally believe a culture like the imperium/admech would build them. Consistency.

[tough haven]

My boi Ufthak!!!!

[arctic talon]

yeah def

[tough haven]

Also they are cool asf

[arctic talon]

the imperium literally chucks bones into gold

for statues

[raven stone]

This does make an interesting observation that - by lore - technically speaking, the Ad Mech of Mars was equally as xenophobic as the Emperor was before Ad Mech agreed to join the IoM during the Great Crusade…

[arctic talon]

Yes, the mechanicus were human supremacists

they also had a plan to blow up Terra during the age of strife

but they never went through with it because greed

[raven stone]

New lore interpretation: the Emperor would have been fine with negotiating with Xenos races, but as part of the political alliance of Ad Mech, had to realign and absorb their xenophobia instead.

[queen laurel]

This is the most realistic titan in 40k if we're talking by real life standards

Yes that's an ork gargant

[gray umbra]

gargants are hilariously cool

[arctic talon]

they got wheels

heh

[queen laurel]

Yeah they're f****** awesome

[fallow rover]

i like to think the tau didn't believe titans were propaganda because they were in awe of the imperium's technology or power or whatever, but because they didn't think anyone would waste resources on something that stupid.

[gray umbra]

whatever happened to that ork twisted metal clone

is that still in development

[storm jungle]

yeah the book isnt out yet

i cant wait for it to reach a satisfying conclusion

[fallow rover]

true!

[outer wave]

Still in early access IIRC

[storm jungle]

aka the mcguffin to be destroyed

oh wait you mean the racing game

LOL

[outer wave]

Its a fun game but there isnt much incentive to keep playing especially in the state its in

[storm jungle]

I thought it was the Grotsnik novel

[arctic talon]

That is the in lore thing at damoclease

[fallow rover]

tau when titan:

[queen laurel]

Yeah literally when they get big enough they just turn into giant land battleships

[gray umbra]

oh lol

[arctic talon]

they thought it was fake because it was stupid

and then no

its real

and its decently effective

and then the Tau came up with counters

[gray umbra]

for a second i thought they were writing a book about ork racing

[arctic talon]

of varying success

[gray umbra]

"red go fasta"

[fallow rover]

they built their own giant mechs with even bigger guns

[queen laurel]

Didn't far sight literally say that those things are easy to deal with it's the space marines that you have to worry about

[arctic talon]

Rezmekka's redda paint is my favorite paint

tbf tactically yeah

a titan is easier to deal with

you blow that shit up with a bomber

or use a big gun from far away

[raven stone]

Many super heavy vehicles, even Imperial ones, can knock an Ad Mech Titan out of the fight.

[outer wave]

You know, Im surprised they havent attempted to strap rockets on the back to make the gargants faster

[arctic talon]

Badmek Rezmekka formulated a type of paint so red that staring at it directly for too long caused actual retinal damage. So red was this new color (dubbed "redder") that he donned it immediately upon his new armour.

the big thing is that titans are never unsupported

or alone

[arctic talon]

so thats what makes it harder to just deal with it

[queen laurel]

My guy made something so red it literally destroys retina

[arctic talon]

yes

Redda

[queen laurel]

Would probably need a lot of power

They haven't gotten that far on making gubbinz for that yet

[gray umbra]

whats the uh average landspeed of a squig

[queen laurel]

Not really explicitly stated

[fallow rover]

that would track, space marines are fast, strong, and intelligent, they're basically super agile mini-tanks. pulse rifles can punch through their armor but that's a lot different than killing them. tmk a semi skilled battlesuit user can deal with one or two on their own relatively easily but once you get more than that they become a huge problem, not to mention space marines are usually supported by the guard and the navy in orbit

[queen laurel]

But i bet squig hogs could be fast enough to keep up with a bike

[gray umbra]

can they like rival vehicles

[fallow rover]

that's so fucking cool

[outer wave]

I mean, they can make ships, and gargants/Gorka/Morkanauts arent exactly that small so its entirely possible a bossmek has a great idea of strapping 300 rockets to the back of a mekk and let it rip

[gray umbra]

dont they have a like a squig led carriot or something

[arctic talon]

the newest elemental council book

[raven stone]

I mean Tau ones ended up looking like Metal Gears or Gundams, so y’know, fair enough lol

[arctic talon]

also has a pathfinder talking about how fighting marines sucks

because they're very flexible in what they can do

[fallow rover]

but also 40k logistics n shtuff have never made sense and are hilariously inconsistent so

[arctic talon]

just don't think about it too hard

[gray umbra]

take it at face value and is everything is ojk

[outer wave]

You gave me a mental image of a space marine contortionist and that is highly funny to me

[queen laurel]

Squighogs definitely can

[gray umbra]

god thats amazing

[arctic talon]

lol

[queen laurel]

Same case for squigosaurs and trampla squigs

[fallow rover]

unrelated but isn't farsight the only tau that the orks respect? king

[raven stone]

Mostly because he is the only guy who fights in close combat AKA a proper scrap

[queen laurel]

Yeah they find him a good fight

[raven stone]

Farsight and Yarrick remains the only two characters that Orks respect despite being non-Ork

Getting in an Ork’s “respect” book is basically showing you are ready to rip them a new one in a show of strength in a decidedly “Orky” mannerism

[fallow rover]

farsight is especially impressive considering that orks seem to find tau especially pathetic (which, although I like tau, from the ork perspective that's a fair assessment)

[queen laurel]

A beast boss on a squigosaur wouldn't hesitate too make his mount faster by formulas or of course modifications

And of course same case for the rigs drag by Tramplasquigs

[gray umbra]

holy shit the last one

[queen laurel]

Yeah those things are physically strong and a herd of them is enough to drag around an on the move ork fortress

[south quartz]

Quick show them the battle fortress

Or whatever it was called

Battle wagon? Damn my brain

[queen laurel]

Ork battlefortress are a thing

[viral halo]

@dusk patrol

[queen laurel]

IGN yet again

[dusk patrol]

Siddhant huh?

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

Iirc he’s done some

Dumbass stuff like this before

Unless I’m thinking of someone else

[storm jungle]

"finale centered entirely around conquest"

THATS THE FUCKING POINT OF THE EPISODE

[dusk patrol]

I guess we found out where all these Redditors are getting their media literacy lessons from

[storm jungle]

my issue is hes acting like this is some drama movie or something

this fight had more emotional in it than most flicks ive watched lmao

[dusk patrol]

Or that it’s the end of the series

[spare osprey]

No ideology? The man literally gives you nothing but his thoughts the entire fight lmao

[dusk patrol]

This is obviously setting up more stuff

[dusk patrol]

He’s not quoting Nietzsche or whatever so it doesn’t count

But whatever, cheap clickbait tbh.

[storm jungle]

average IGN moment

[dusk patrol]

I totally don’t disagreed that while it’s great and knowing what it sets up I love it, but I could see someone saying it’s an 8 or whatever. But 5 is just silly.

And also if you’ve been watching the show you know the episode is gonna lead somewhere.

[storm jungle]

Yeah it definitely isnt really like that plot driven and survives entirely on wojak factor but its like wojak factor done extremely well lol

[arctic talon]

I could honestly understand anything from 7-10

Lol

But like

Why 5

[storm jungle]

IGN, no other reason

[dusk patrol]

How did season 2 end again?

[storm jungle]

literally setting up half this shit

[dusk patrol]

Was it the Viltrumite fight?

[arctic talon]

Uh

No

Season 2 ended with angstrom fight

[dusk patrol]

Oh yeah duh

Idk how that’s any different than this tbh

[storm jungle]

I guess because one is yakub and the other is an old muscleman

[dusk patrol]

If anything, I’ll give a big criticism to the Angstrom fight, the whole Deus ex Machina bit that saves Mark is super goofy.

[storm jungle]

well you can kinda excuse it because it superhero stuff tbh

ive seen worse examples of it

[dusk patrol]

It’s not gonna ruin my day but it’s a huge handwave

[sly ivy]

Jesse’s druggie girlfriend dies and Skyler finds out Walt faked a bunch of stuff and there’s that plane crash

Wait what are we talking about

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/panical-itechcaptain-yoshiiisland-yoshiisland-weather-report-gif-26190663

[storm jungle]

This is funny because Powerplex who Jessie's VA voices literally has a junkie looking goth gf 💀

[dusk patrol]

might wanna add a past tense there

[green loom]

*had

[storm jungle]

hmm crispy

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-meme-cook-gif-1177116184918006692

[arctic talon]

That baby wasn’t just well done

That shit was legendary

[storm jungle]

💀

STOP IT

[dusk patrol]

The baby is

https://tenor.com/view/fried-chicken-chicken-fried-cooking-pan-gif-3377398

[spare osprey]

She really does look like krysten ritter tbh

[raven stone]

https://youtu.be/kKkkh1STZqs?feature=shared

Yes this is a thing now.
Yes they led with Darktide.

[storm jungle]

was ABSOLUTELY intentional

[sharp pollen]

no fucking way

this is cool

[storm jungle]

2:55 is SO fucking good

actual chills

[sharp pollen]

god bless Yesper

and choral singing

choiral

[storm jungle]

proof that orchestras make anything 100x better

[sharp pollen]

hor

[storm jungle]

🗣️ 📢

[sharp pollen]

more like this 🥢 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[storm jungle]

lmfao

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/desi-ioneemno-desi-banks-yezzir-yessir-gif-26090737

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

This is probably partly because he's Danish

[sharp pollen]

my favourite is Immortal Imperium but i guess its not possible to perform it like this

too much synth

maybe

[green loom]

The Vermintide main theme was sooooo good though

[arctic talon]

The last stand ost in vermintide 2 is a banger

Far better then Darktides tbh

Which is just menacing synths

[storm jungle]

Janfon did a mix of that 2 years ago

its peak

[rose thorn]

They got rid of Karnak for 40K????

What a weird decision

[storm jungle]

All will be revealed in time

[outer wave]

She knows something we do not....

[sharp pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185650537790713984/1350182777479495740/agentthicc_2025-03-14-19-22-59_1741965779129.mp4?ex=67d5cf33&is=67d47db3&hm=5ac5eda11ba439adf6ee09ae8b231255cd436921b27a81066fc226157cb840ab&

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

Apparently combat patrol demons is gone too

Gw killing every army with infantry deep strike ig

[arctic talon]

They also said Karnak is being discontinued

Which is

Weird

[arctic talon]

They’re not, since the index got updated

[rose thorn]

For both games???

[arctic talon]

They still have deepstrike

[arctic talon]

That is the implication of the article yeah

It’s weird

Karanak is brand new

Not the first time GW has done something like this though

Still very odd whenever it happens

[rose thorn]

I should go pick up boarding patrol demons first AOS then

[storm jungle]

WAIT

i thought this was related to the Karnak twins

LMAO

[shadow plover]

lol, lmao

[storm jungle]

fucking warhammer names man

[dapper gyro]

Using wrong names causes confusion. It is ok, Dilara.

Your brain is intact.

[storm jungle]

yours wont be in a minute

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[celest dome]

Wait is it Karanak ?

[dapper gyro]

Can't not break what is already broken.

[arctic talon]

I missed an a

Lol

[arctic talon]

Yes

I misspelled it

[rose thorn]

Me too

[arctic talon]

Anyways looks like Karanak might be getting taken out back

And having his poor head blown off

Despite having a brand new mini from 8e lol

[rose thorn]

I can’t imagine they would do it to AOS, he has an entire warband

[storm jungle]

also literally appearing in a month old book

aka Daemonbreaker lol

[arctic talon]

I mean

They have before

Not for AoS

[rose thorn]

Yeha but “claws of karanak” and where’s karanak

[arctic talon]

But they released a codex legion of the damned in 6e and discontinued legion of the damned like 3 months later lol

[arctic talon]

Also with whfb

I forgot which unit

But it got a mini

And then the next book didn’t have it

[rose thorn]

Karanak and the khorne lord are the only models that can lead both of them together

[storm jungle]

maybe they just forgot 💀

[arctic talon]

Also happened with seraphon in AoS

[rose thorn]

The claws and karanak

[arctic talon]

I forgot which unit

[shadow plover]

It probably sold like 9 copies so they ditched it

[arctic talon]

But it was a hero

[arctic talon]

Lol

I will actually scream

If they discontinue Karanak

There’s no shot he sold that badly lol

[rose thorn]

They did do the same thing to beasts of chaos tbh, but that was gw holding a gun to their head

When that model dropped everyone was hyped for the rebirth of beasts of chaos next edition

https://tenor.com/view/ena-joel-g-flabbergasted-shock-speechless-gif-9360758616285104137

[arctic talon]

Next edition

Beastmen still treated better in AoS then in whfb somehow

And how the fuck has 40k treated them the least awfully lore wise

Actually derranged

[shadow plover]

beastmen deserve worse

poopoo tier faction

[storm jungle]

the goat racism is crazy

https://tenor.com/view/yungviral-gif-13520736873899911730

[shadow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-gif-25211034

[rose thorn]

Also weird 40k is copying AOS’ homework for terrian

40K daemons have all of the AOS terrains

[arctic talon]

They’ve always had yeah

[storm jungle]

yeah its classic cross-over stuff

[arctic talon]

The only time they haven’t had cross over

Was 7e

Because whfb was dead

And AoS was on fire

Codex khorne daemonkin, what a weird book you were

[languid meadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/HBigMan_/status/1900512940815499266

in light of SM3 being announced

[rose thorn]

LMAO

I feel like brain dead space marine fans have been flaring up on twitter as of late

[gray umbra]

over what

[young pecan]

||Why did Cherubael give Eisenhorn the necroteuch to destroy
Is he stupid||

[gray umbra]

iirc it was some gambit to free himself

[young pecan]

||"Despite there being many ships on the ground still evacuating people and me knowing that you have a gun cutter yourself, I will give you the artifact of infinite heretical knowledge even though I could probably still use it"||

[young pecan]

How so?

[gray umbra]

wasnt he bound to the other inqusitor

its been a while so the timeline of events is a blur

[sacred bluff]

Gotta feel for them (me)

This game, though wonderful, released with the bare minimum

6 hour campaign and 3 multiplayer maps

[rose thorn]

Space marine (army) not game my bad

[sacred bluff]

Ah..

[young pecan]

||It was that he was created by the Inquisition, not sure if he was bound to Molitor but it seems like the second book/second part of the book is gonna be getting into that mystery so far||

[rose thorn]

I haven’t played the game at all but I don’t buy stuff til like 2 years after release

[sacred bluff]

Kinda same

I do have MH wilds though

OTHER THAN THAT

I tend to wait for CHEAP sales

[storm jungle]

to be fair MH Wilds is not even comparable to SM2 imo

like MH is legit peak as fuck

also FOOOOOOOOOD

[sacred bluff]

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-cooking-hunter-palico-gif-13001496437032412730

[sacred bluff]

I just love my little palico

[rose thorn]

I really wanna try the older MH games, I have world but I have no friends lol

[sacred bluff]

"hey ugly, over here"

[gray umbra]

i love these guys

[languid meadow]

I squirm, I struggle; ergo, I am.

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-absolute-cinema-gif-15085453417287561698

[sacred bluff]

I've thanked and talked to my palico more than I have any other game character

[young pecan]

Smart

[rose thorn]

Does monster hunter have insects?

[sacred bluff]

Yes...

[languid meadow]

like monster insects or just bugs

they have both

[young pecan]

I played SM2 for a week on release and haven't played since a single time

[sacred bluff]

They KINDA have both

Actually idk

[young pecan]

Lala Barina is a whole monster bug so aye

[sacred bluff]

I can't think of an insect monster

[young pecan]

Then there's little medium-sized pest enemies

[sacred bluff]

Like Lala Barina

[languid meadow]

Ahtal-Ka

[sacred bluff]

Maybe

[young pecan]

And then there's endemic wildlife

[rose thorn]

YYAYWGEHSBEJWB

[languid meadow]

Lala and nercyclla are in wilds but those are spiders and not really bugs

[sacred bluff]

He not in wilds

[languid meadow]

they asked for bugs

I post bug

[rose thorn]

Why does wilds have a mixed rating?

[languid meadow]

performance

[rose thorn]

Oh

[languid meadow]

RE engine moment

[young pecan]

I assume optimization

Gameplay itself is awesome

[languid meadow]

Early "bug" monster for wilds

[young pecan]

But yeah the performance hurts

[sacred bluff]

A lot of the hate comes from Asia

As far as I'm aware

[rose thorn]

What environment are they found in?

[gray umbra]

forest

[rose thorn]

Oh it s wolf spider

Awesome