40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

best I can do is Scorpions

[dapper gyro]

Some Cadian guardsmen got carapace that tanked a CSM bolter round... so yeah...

[storm jungle]

their chapter master is literally named Carab Culln

[gray umbra]

yeah then you get that shit

[storm jungle]

[median star]

was astartes/ thunder warrior power armor always ceramite or were mk1 maybe mk2 carapace

[jade holly]

Damn, peak gotta be stuck with mid fr fr

[gray umbra]

theres not a lot of consistency

[storm jungle]

Ye pretty much

[dusk patrol]

I think it was always ceramite but we don’t hear a lot about Mk1

[jade holly]

I just want one story about Admech on a fringe planet having to live like western outlaws

[storm jungle]

40k is essentially functioning on WWE and comic book rules

[gray umbra]

and i am all for it

[jade holly]

Because cyborg cowboys are sick

[dusk patrol]

Original Mk1 wasn’t even always powered below the legs

Or waist I guess

Legs weren’t powered

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380

[dapper gyro]

Carapace is also ceramite, but lower grade, thinner and use different name to make it sound more mundane.

[median star]

in theory could an ogryn fit into a mk1 suit if i just so happened upon a set

[storm jungle]

you mean their suits COULDNT jerk them off?

[dusk patrol]

I mean stand at attention worm

[jade holly]

Damn there go my plans with the boys

[storm jungle]

no

[gray umbra]

their legs are too stubby

[storm jungle]

ogryns are abnormally muscled

ok so are space marines but like

power armor is literally forged to appease that built

lol

[dusk patrol]

If they modified it heavily

[gray umbra]

ogryns have weird proportions

[dusk patrol]

But not a normal suit

[gray umbra]

space marines have the physique of a world of warcraft human male

[dapper gyro]

Inquisitors wear high grade carapace, which is SM ceramite quality, but not as thick.

[median star]

but mk1 was mainly built around thunder warriors so also bigger then astartes so like ya know

[arctic talon]

Skitarii War Plate - Skitarii warriors are protected by armoured plates superior to carapace armor and designed to be worn for several years at a time. Secreted under a superdermal layer of ceramite alloy are recombinant cells that harness moisture from the wearer and recycle it. This liquid is transmuted into a gelatinous unguent that coats the inside of the suit, preventing the slow abrasion of the wearer’s body whilst affording a measure of protection from the harmful emanations of their weaponry.

On skitarii armor

[dusk patrol]

Each set of power armor is heavily modified to fit the marine

[storm jungle]

Those were just mostly "whatever"

[dusk patrol]

Still not the same proportions

Also they weren’t that different

[storm jungle]

like its Mark 1 but they were inconsistent

since it was just the Emperor going "YEET"

as mass produced armored suits

[dusk patrol]

Marines used Mk1

[storm jungle]

Mark Thunder whoops

or whatever the fuck its name was

i dont read iron man comics

[arctic talon]

thunder armor

[sacred ginkgo]

"They sweat oil"

[dusk patrol]

It’s Mk1 dork

[median star]

what if it was an anorexic ogryn

[storm jungle]

shut up

[arctic talon]

its turned into oil

but yes

their armor turns sweat into lube

[sacred ginkgo]

Just paraphrasing

[storm jungle]

[gray umbra]

thats hot

[arctic talon]

You're welcome for that unholy knowledge

[dusk patrol]

What if your ass was anorexic cause I kicked the shit out of it

[gray umbra]

its like spitting

but with sweat

[dapper gyro]

Orgryn can wear the top half of the Mk1. The lower half is not powered anyway.

[dusk patrol]

They couldn’t unless it was modified

At least not comfortably

[arctic talon]

ogryns are too thicc

[dusk patrol]

Maybe a small Ogryn or whatever

A runt

[gray umbra]

would it be like wearing a corset

or like trying to shove your dick into a metal tube

[dapper gyro]

Wot?

[dusk patrol]

But the standard Ogryn size we see nah

Nah Sah

[storm jungle]

ogryns can sometimes get bigger than space marines too

like again

they are a mutation

its kinda hard to make an armor for that lol

[dusk patrol]

You’re a mutation

[storm jungle]

shut up dorkass

[dapper gyro]

Damn

You just call Dilara fat?

[storm jungle]

[dusk patrol]

I wish

[odd palm]

Can get bigger, I feel like it’s the norm that they’re bigger than SMs

[median star]

are their skitarii ogryn

[storm jungle]

Its not

[dusk patrol]

They’re probably skinny af

[storm jungle]

ogryns can be on the same/bigger size than marines but theres no consistent size

its not really like a pre-set thing

seeing as they are abhumans

[odd palm]

I see

[dapper gyro]

Orgryn is as strong as SM without armour in most case, too.

[vagrant fox]

I feel like they were consistently taller than firstborn but it's vague with primaris but I don't remember shit

[arctic talon]

it varies™️

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

no

Skitarii are humans exclusively

[dusk patrol]

I would say they’re consistently taller tbh

[storm jungle]

Some books describe Ogs as towering over marines and some dont

[arctic talon]

because the mechanicus

is racist

[dapper gyro]

With some exception that can brawl armoured marines.

[dusk patrol]

Considering Custodes blend in as them often

[storm jungle]

as ever "it depends"

[jade holly]

Y’all are ignoring an untapped resource

[arctic talon]

most depictions show ogryn as

[jade holly]

Cybogryns

[arctic talon]

bigger then marines imo

[median star]

how exactly does and ogryn get to the size it is when its a plague ogryn like theyre 4× bigger then a normal ogryn even w out being bloated

[arctic talon]

there's ogryn servitors

[arctic talon]

rapid mutation

[dusk patrol]

How does space magic work?

[sharp pollen]

protein

[arctic talon]

the plagues do it to them

[gray umbra]

plague ogryns are magical

[arctic talon]

also

[dusk patrol]

It’s literally warp bullshit

[arctic talon]

the plague ogryn in darktide

is way larger

then normal ones

[jade holly]

Theoretically could an Admech or Techmarine have Mechadendrites that act like Doctor Octopus arms?

[arctic talon]

Its a fine specimen

[median star]

sorry ogryn youve been struck by bone get bigger disease

[arctic talon]

Yes

[dusk patrol]

They can and do

[arctic talon]

its not that unusual

yeah

[jade holly]

Hell yeah

Admech is so cool

[sharp pollen]

plague ogryn **OF DISPLEASING SIZE **

[gray umbra]

didnt horus grow in size because of chaos fuckery

[arctic talon]

a few priests move around with their mechadendrites

[gray umbra]

or was that just a metaphor

[arctic talon]

yeah chaos juice literally makes you bigger

Abbadon is huge now

[jade holly]

mfw Vulkan size

[gray umbra]

"bloated with the ruinous powers"

literally

[arctic talon]

most CSM

[jade holly]

Mortarion I wish was more bloated in his design

[arctic talon]

are also taller + wider then they used to be

[median star]

i think he started doing the thing emperor and magnus do where they can make you perceive them however they want to be perceived

[arctic talon]

Mortarion is supposed to look anorexic

[storm jungle]

Its mostly not done because doctor octopus has ironically dominated that silhouette regarding octopus robot arms, so it always gets comparisons, its why models always stick to them having it as like thin wire-like tendrils

[jade holly]

Admech and Techmarines have no reason to be as cool as they are

[gray umbra]

i like mortarion's design, he looks like a serious case of malnutrition

[storm jungle]

otherwise every single techpriest looks unique

[sharp pollen]

and here we go again about SM... hrrrrr wiwiwiwiw zzz

[storm jungle]

they are their own characters

[gray umbra]

we should talk about lucius the eternal next

[dusk patrol]

They’d also probably fuck Aunt May better

[storm jungle]

BRUH

[vagrant fox]

a serious case of carcinisation

[storm jungle]

Not aunt may 💀

[jade holly]

I’ll show her my Iron Hand if you catch my drift

Gonna give Spiderman a new Canon event

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/aunt-may-spiderman-shock-terror-help-gif-18383191579298142387

[sharp pollen]

i really like the theme of the last Leuitin video

[gray umbra]

oh we talking about that aunt may

[storm jungle]

this scene gave me trauma as a kid lol

[median star]

ya know what would be funny ogryn servo skull but its just a big bomb that flys at you

[storm jungle]

he literall yfucking blows up half her house because she slapped his hand during dinner 💀

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/fling-aunt-may-may-parker-spider-man-no-way-home-marvel-gif-26305335

[dusk patrol]

I don’t like Aunt May being hot

It feels wrong

[storm jungle]

Same

i feel like if you are gonna make her hot keep her like Old Hot

[dapper gyro]

Most aunt May are old, not every aunt May are hot like in the MCU.

[gray umbra]

untapped milf energy

[arctic talon]

she is just an aunt

[storm jungle]

milf-tier stuff, not a literal supermodel

I mean what

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/scorsese-absolute-cinema-meme-gif-9523375912274476782

[arctic talon]

but like she's old in almost every depiction I can think of

[dusk patrol]

Disney and aunts

Smh

https://tenor.com/view/bighero6-aunt-auntcass-rxn-reaction-gif-10055189

[hallow basin]

It's not that it's wrong per se, it's just a case of "why would you do that and what does it add exactly"

[gray umbra]

sweet liberty

[dusk patrol]

Like come on

[dapper gyro]

It is really odd that aunt May in MCU was still single.

[vagrant fox]

Where'd her huge milkers go

[jade holly]

I was literally going to bring her up lmao

[jade holly]

Photoshop

[gray umbra]

im pretty sure disney intentionally makes milf material

[arctic talon]

@storm jungle your OC is on 40k gallery now

[storm jungle]

Chat please we were talking so nicely about warhammer

[sharp pollen]

i dont even need to say anything, this channel is already a slaanesh cult club

[dusk patrol]

Unrealistic as fuck

[storm jungle]

which one, I got like 80

[arctic talon]

The tech priestess

the purple one

[dusk patrol]

And with Happy?!

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/elastigirl-mirror-gif-27141884

[storm jungle]

lmao of course she is

[vagrant fox]

All I knew about that movie I got from browsing the internet. What a shame

[hallow basin]

Aunt May in Warhammer

[median star]

are their any iron hands where its literally just atom smasher tier and its just their head thats still biological @dusk patrol

[jade holly]

You’re right, how quickly could an Admech rip an Ork apart with their Mechadendrites

[sharp pollen]

ambata...

[dusk patrol]

Yes

[storm jungle]

they cant leave my gals alone 💀

[dusk patrol]

Some more

[storm jungle]

@arctic talon also pass me a link

[gray umbra]

aunt may in warhamemr is the shipmistress in darktide

[sharp pollen]

what a golden times man

[dapper gyro]

This is also unlikely as hell.

[jade holly]

Imagine a techmarine with Cyberpsychosis

Now that’d be scary

[arctic talon]

https://40k.gallery/tech-priest-collectae-metalliaxis/

[arctic talon]

cyberpsychosis only happens because THEY ARE WEAK

[paper haven]

World Eaters techmarine

[arctic talon]

REJECT YOUR MEAT

[storm jungle]

Motherfucker....

[sharp pollen]

sexy metal

[sacred ginkgo]

You speak like they aren't already worse

[storm jungle]

i gotta ask inka to put a more annoying watermark next time lol

[dapper gyro]

That big eye hole, an extra hole.

[paper haven]

Throne, woman have some decency. You're showing way too much metal.

[storm jungle]

thats the idea!

[gray umbra]

if those are her limbs is she technically naked

[storm jungle]

anyway yeah i wish i put like a massive "OC BELONGS TO:" thing on it, i hate when people post my shit on other sites

[arctic talon]

still not as shameless as Cawl's Skitarii Marshal

lol

[sharp pollen]

wdym its your shit?

[arctic talon]

she's actually just naked

[storm jungle]

I commissioned it

shes my character

[arctic talon]

and Alpha Primus hates it

LOL

[sharp pollen]

ah

[gray umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-gif-17201156180006208981

[storm jungle]

Kinda, EV1 thinks shes basically being a supermodel by showing off her metal body, she is barely organic minus like most of her spine/head

[paper haven]

That harlot

[storm jungle]

her forgeworld is obsessed with the purity of metal among other stuff while being divas about it

well the upper class at least lol

[paper haven]

They consider rust to be a skin condition

[sharp pollen]

fyetish 40k homebrew lore

[arctic talon]

I mean

rust is a skin condition if your skin is metal

[vagrant fox]

all worldbuilding is just fetishes

[arctic talon]

its poor care of your skin that causes it

[paper haven]

That describes most 40k homebrew

[storm jungle]

this is way too real

[sharp pollen]

im not yet at the point where i imagine my own shit

[vagrant fox]

All Tomorrows is nothing but transformation fetish material, 100%

[storm jungle]

"yes mommy turn me into a flesh block"

💀

[sharp pollen]

i cant scream but i must goon

[rocky gale]

https://tenor.com/view/roland-popcorn-machine-lobotomy-corporation-lobotomy-ltg-gif-2010054338945665712

[dapper gyro]

You people...

[paper haven]

Pretty sure that's heretical enough to justify a saturation bombardment of the population centers

[hallow saddle]

imagine not making ur body out of some alloy thats resistant to rust

[vagrant fox]

sounds like something a poor person would do

[paper haven]

The poors do that

[plush mason]

ok i was not expecting to read this when i checked back in this channel and frankly thats on me at this point

[hallow saddle]

smh

[sharp pollen]

50 shades of gray in 40k when

[storm jungle]

All Tomorrows lore is WILD

[median star]

do grey knights and custodes have any notable relationship or run ins with each other

[vagrant fox]

I fucking love All Tomorrows

[paper haven]

Somehow I don't know about all tomorrows

[sharp pollen]

i guess im glad i dont know what all tomorrows is

[arctic talon]

are we talking about All Tomorrows?

[arctic talon]

Custodes are annoyed the GK have the terminus decree

the GK think the custodes are annoying and that they should guard the throne

tldr they don't love each other

[paper haven]

Although what little context I've seen suggests I wouldn't be all that interested in it

[arctic talon]

Its

more of a world building exercise

tbh

[storm jungle]

future sci-fi setting where humanity has a golden age of technology but they get destroyed en-masse by an alien race called the Qu and for their resistance they turn various sects of humanity into awful mutated animal-monsters out of pure sadism before leaving the galaxy, this more or less tries to cover how "humanity" survives after that.

its very interesting

[median star]

whats terminus decree again

[arctic talon]

some weird secret plan

[storm jungle]

its a bio-virus that targets all astartes

I mean secret plan whoops

[arctic talon]

also yeah

[vagrant fox]

Behold, humanity perfected. An orb

[arctic talon]

its probably that

LOL

[green loom]

I have turned her into a marketable NFT

[arctic talon]

die

[sharp pollen]

"they turn humans into monsters" aliens turn humans or humans turn humans

[dusk patrol]

@median star worth noting guys like these two are, basically all augmetic. They just have the faces, or partial ones cause GW are cowards.

Ignore Lucius and Lukas

[paper haven]

The GK should be having way more issues with daemonic possession

[median star]

why would custodes be upset abt it if its only to kill astartes

[dusk patrol]

For the second piece

[storm jungle]

Aliens, a lot of human groups get turned into like weird animals

its done purely out of sadism

[dapper gyro]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/b/b4/CASSANDRA.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130830133312

[plush mason]

it might also be a shut down code for the golden throne

[arctic talon]

because they don't know what it is

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-gif-2050801210200914046

[dusk patrol]

Poop bricks

[arctic talon]

the Qu are just evil

like absurdly evil lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

[dusk patrol]

Don’t worry they get their ass kicked by cyborgs

[arctic talon]

anyways they got genocided

[dusk patrol]

🦾

[storm jungle]

one race of humans get turned into "pleasure slaves" and its just horrid

[arctic talon]

The qu getting slaughtered

[storm jungle]

they look like hairless fucking chickens

[arctic talon]

and that being near the end of the book

[median star]

does anyone know abt all the bullshit hat tricks the dark angels are capable of

[arctic talon]

is cathartic lol

[dusk patrol]

We ignore the bad ending of the book where the cyborgs also lose

[sharp pollen]

they who

[paper haven]

If it's so bad then why am I having so much fun?

[arctic talon]

I forgot who humanity was working with

[sharp pollen]

aliens or humans

[arctic talon]

to mass murder the qu

lol

[arctic talon]

Humans

well

descendents of humans

the Qu forcibly evolved

[sharp pollen]

does this book have pics

[arctic talon]

yes

a lot of pics

arguably too many LOL

[sharp pollen]

fan made?

[dusk patrol]

It was like Cyborg humans and other weird humans

Lots of people had their number

[arctic talon]

no, its all made by the author

[paper haven]

When people complain about the Imperium being too close minded, just show them this

[sharp pollen]

damn

[arctic talon]

I mean

[plush mason]

i have never heard of this book before

[arctic talon]

the Qu are like the Imperium but eviler lol

the whole

every other race is inferior

They didn't murderize the races who fought back hard enough

they just horribly mutilated and evolved them

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

instead of just genociding them

[storm jungle]

its also ironically a really "realistic" form of sci-fi

where you kinda get reminded humanity may very well not be that advanced

lol

[arctic talon]

well

[paper haven]

See? Typical xeno sloppiness

[arctic talon]

humanity was really advanced

just less advancd then the Qu

[storm jungle]

LOL

[vagrant fox]

My favourite is are the ones who were left with full sentience but couldn't do anything but act like animals. Get owned, resistors

[storm jungle]

THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS ELITE

[arctic talon]

Shut up

smh

IT IS HOW IT WORKS

[raven stone]

Wait what is this?

[arctic talon]

All Tomorrows

[storm jungle]

All Tomorrows

[plush mason]

every time you say Qu i just think of the Q from star trek lol

[raven stone]

Thanks will need to look into it now…

[storm jungle]

hold on

[sharp pollen]

i will not, for a while at least

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/imNtSPM3-r4

Very good vid on the subject

covers it from start to finish

[sharp pollen]

fucking body horror shit

one of the worst

augh

[dapper gyro]

I can turn you into one if you pay me enough.

[median star]

ill do it for free if you ask nicely

[sharp pollen]

can we get back to nice and cozy 40k lore

[dapper gyro]

What do you mean? It is 40k subject.

[sharp pollen]

nahhh

this is worse

[dapper gyro]

Body horror is everywhere.

[vagrant fox]

Which 40k warcrime is the coolest 🤔

[sharp pollen]

even demonculaba and sex servitors are not as bad as this

[arctic talon]

my favorite reveal

is the end of all tomorrows

that humanity and all its descendents are extinct

well its not really a reveal

because the author is obviously not human

but humanity went extinct and this is the info a bunch of historians and archeolgists put together

[storm jungle]

yeah thats even worse

lmao

[dusk patrol]

It’s actually all a metaphor for me playing Minecraft

[storm jungle]

"I WOULDNT EVEN KEEP YOU AS A SLAVE FOR MY VILLAGER COLONY"

https://tenor.com/view/evil-invincible-evil-mark-grayson-black-and-yellow-suit-costume-gif-8189935203028326956

[vagrant fox]

What is more enjoyable than ravaging the land and enslaving the locals in Minedcraft

[sharp pollen]

are you making mutants out of chickens and pigs in minecrafty

[storm jungle]

depends

what modpack

[median star]

irl

[sacred bluff]

Did they ever expand on the other civilizations in Horus Rising and Fulgrim?

[sharp pollen]

oh fuck with a mod you can actually do it...

oh my fucking god

[storm jungle]

All of them are throwaway

[sharp pollen]

my imagination, stop...

[dusk patrol]

Only if they resist my rule

[sacred bluff]

That's what I thought

[storm jungle]

yep

thats a common trope in 30k

most civilizations are just made up for that one book/codex

[dusk patrol]

They all died, end of story

[median star]

also thoughts on this guy

[dusk patrol]

What do you need a depressing backstory smh

[arctic talon]

wdym, I love this dude lol

[sharp pollen]

cool sleeping bag

[dusk patrol]

“Snek people liked to fuck too much”

“This created some problems”

[arctic talon]

As far as going extinct goes

I think all tomorrows is pretty positive on it

[storm jungle]

Lmfao god the fucking caption

[median star]

p strong skull to last a billion years

[arctic talon]

ikr

[dusk patrol]

They went instinct from having too massive of dongs

[sharp pollen]

bro just straight up hating on humanity

[dusk patrol]

Nah

He’s just like

Observing history

[median star]

instinct

[dusk patrol]

Or it or whatever you wanna call em

[dusk patrol]

Yes

I’m not fixing it

[sharp pollen]

im not gonna sleep tonight i guess

[dusk patrol]

Autocorrect wouldn’t be wrong would it?

[storm jungle]

bruh its not that scary

[dapper gyro]

That a good step from opening up, Eternal.

[sharp pollen]

for me it is

[storm jungle]

comparing daemonculaba to this is crazy

[dapper gyro]

It is ok if it is your instinct.

[dusk patrol]

It’s disturbing but it’s very

[sharp pollen]

i hate things that are done to consious people

[dusk patrol]

Idk it’s told like a historical book

[arctic talon]

this is like posing with a dinosaur bone

[storm jungle]

Yeah that, it feels like watching more an unknown alien animal suffer

[arctic talon]

imo its fine

[storm jungle]

^

humanity is ancient history at that point

[dusk patrol]

The dude is just an archeologist or whatever

[arctic talon]

They are the precursor race

[dusk patrol]

It’s it the other way around

They’re the

Inheritors idk?

[storm jungle]

yeah they are

[median star]

and then they turned the humans into a bunch of giant skin giraffe who did nothing but eat grass then die a million years later

[dusk patrol]

There’s a better word for it

[storm jungle]

because the book ends with a "positive" message that all these mutant species find a way to live

which i like kinda

as fucked up as it is

lol

[sharp pollen]

i hate you

[storm jungle]

its like the human race rn going extinct, something will always live forward

[dusk patrol]

I mean tbh so did everyone else

They just found a way to live by fucking with everyone else

[storm jungle]

I mean

thats what we do right now so thats perfect imo

[dapper gyro]

How much evolution for human not being human anymore?

[storm jungle]

a lot

[vagrant fox]

I remember it being weirdly hopeful, or vaguely positive. I don't remember if that was just my mood when reading it though

[dusk patrol]

You

[storm jungle]

we really havent been on this planet that long

[dusk patrol]

You are barely human

[storm jungle]

Nah thats very much the message for it

[dusk patrol]

Disgusts me that we’re considered the same

[storm jungle]

like 90% of the book is a depressing horror show

[arctic talon]

It’s meant to be hopeful

By the end of it tbh

[storm jungle]

since even the races that try to advance sometimes just cant or get wiped out

[arctic talon]

And it is

[storm jungle]

but in the end they manage

[gray umbra]

im waiting for cybernetics so i can replace my spine 🙂

[vagrant fox]

smh ironmongers

[dusk patrol]

“Hopefully people will not turn eachother into poop cubes in the future”

[dapper gyro]

Sigh up for Musky, he needs some carcass to test on.

[gray umbra]

lol i dont trust that fucker

[median star]

im waiting to replace my frontal lobe personally last one ran out

[gray umbra]

im 29 and everytime i get up i make old man noises

[vagrant fox]

hit the gym become swole

[gray umbra]

tru

[median star]

yea thats cause youre actually turning to dust tomorrow

[vagrant fox]

I had old man back, then I hit the gym and now I'm as broad as a barn and I flex on old women

[gray umbra]

thank god

do you flex on old women or do you flex old women

[vagrant fox]

thulsa doom is also my prophet and religion, flesh is strong

Both, i'm the youngest person at my gym. There's nothing but old geezers

[arctic talon]

lol

[vagrant fox]

Man I'm bored, there's no conquer left to watch and I watched my edgy animes. What's a cool thing to do

[gray umbra]

play darktide

[vagrant fox]

I liked this one, it's good

I've fuckall to do besides getting poxslayer in Darktide

or whatever the title is

[gray umbra]

i got havoc 40 a few days ago so im now just mashing my face into a wall to get the 50 matches done

i dont know what is worse, 30+ or watching people ego in 16

[arctic talon]

I doom scroll

prefered doomscrolling target recently is r/worldjerking because I like worldbuilding and I like shitposts about it

[gray umbra]

i have to take breaks from doom scrolling

everytime i see something related to trump im like haha i live here

[gray umbra]

or just us fed in general

[arctic talon]

This is why I see this instead

[vagrant fox]

Does Darktide even have any deep lore to talk about 🤔

[arctic talon]

There's some new stuff in the cubicle 7 thing for W&G

[storm jungle]

https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline

[arctic talon]

that fleshes out tertium more

[storm jungle]

Theres a ton of stuff

the issue is like

like any horde-shooter the lore is always piece-meal

[vagrant fox]

tl:dr for a second round

[vagrant fox]

a house by the waterfall would be chill

[gray umbra]

right now the cult of admonition is about to do something

something BEEG

[vagrant fox]

yeah get my mcfreaking hammer to their dome

[arctic talon]

I do find it hilarious

grendyl obviously has

Way more operatives

then are shown in Darktide

but Rannicks warband just doesn't get shit lol

like does Grendyl just hate Rannick

[gray umbra]

it does feel like we're kind of the b-team

even though we mow through like thousands of enemies a match

[median star]

this is supposed to be like right nar the end of his test to be an inquisitor himself so i assume hes real hands off just to see if rannick can actually deal with it and be seen as competent

[arctic talon]

tbf this is a gameplay thing

[gray umbra]

yeah of course

[arctic talon]

the moebian sixth would have gone extinct during the beta

but the Rejects at the higher levels aren't the B-team anymore

[gray umbra]

am i auric yet daad

[arctic talon]

they're ranked as Teir 2 characters

in the W&G system

[opaque coyote]

What is that empty hole doing there??

Fill it up with Blatant Fem dom STAT

[gray umbra]

oh is the book out yet?

i kinda want to get it just to nerd out about darktide

[arctic talon]

Yeah its out

[opaque coyote]

Honestly had the idea of aliens invading Earth specifically to like

Actually eat us

[arctic talon]

because we're tasty?

[opaque coyote]

Like we just happen to fucking taste delicious

[arctic talon]

lol

I knew it

[opaque coyote]

In the galactic sphere

[arctic talon]

this is an event chain in stellaris

[opaque coyote]

Idk what's so tasty about Microplastics tho

Then again we eat it all the time so

Maybe it is delicious

[raven stone]

I have to say the stuff Qu do just…sounds like a Drukhari Sunday…

[vagrant fox]

in many ways

[arctic talon]

actual quote from Grendyl

[vagrant fox]

Maybe microplastics taste kind of nice to aliens

[arctic talon]

I didn't notice this on my first read through

[opaque coyote]

It's the equivalent of salt to them

"Add a little bit of microplastics to make your food taste even better!"

[rocky gale]

..we've got microplastics inside us

[vagrant fox]

Does it reveal anything about Grendyl? Radical, puritan, or anything?

[opaque coyote]

The Colonials are like

So sad

Like

They got turned into bricks that eat shit. Literally

[arctic talon]

it reveals absolutely fucking nothing lol

[opaque coyote]

They evolved out of that and made a prosperous society

[arctic talon]

beyond he's not drunken the chaos koolaid

[opaque coyote]

Only to get killed AGAIN

[arctic talon]

and is in fact loyal

[opaque coyote]

And wiped out

[arctic talon]

it is what it is

[opaque coyote]

It is so sad honestly

[vagrant fox]

Well it's something, I think I prefer to be kept mostly in the dark

[raven stone]

Mantelopes, man…by the throne…and the ones that were stripped of actual sentience too…

[gray umbra]

this guy is having a good time

[sacred bluff]

Wait, does the charge do damage in itself???

[opaque coyote]

Has there ever been like

A Chaos villain that joined purely because they found it funny

Like

"Yeah of course I joined Tzeentch. I want to fuck with people."

[gray umbra]

night lords probably

oh uhh probably

[hallow basin]

through the unlisted vox thingies we know Grendyl used Aeldari tech, so if you still thought they're a radical, there you are

[gray umbra]

im sure tzeentch cultists enjoy what they do

[opaque coyote]

Probably to leave the door open in case if the devs want to add like

Xenos weapons

[arctic talon]

wtf did I just find on worldjerking LOL

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/why-isn't-it-possible-who-it-is-not-possible-why-it-is-impossible-why-is-it-possible-why-is-it-impossible-gif-2857074510996985395

[opaque coyote]

Alt. History is either shit like this

Or shit like

"What if I ate pepperoni pizza instead of a combo pizza?"

[vagrant fox]

I sometimes look through that alternate history subreddit and it has the dumbest and best stuff, depending on how you look at it

[opaque coyote]

That THEN devolves into shit like the orevious

[gray umbra]

this reads like the biography of north korean leaders

[arctic talon]

there is a guild of illumination on tertium

[vagrant fox]

It's almost on par with Tupac is alive in Serbia

[opaque coyote]

Honestly Alt. History is neat both as a serious world building exercise.

And just for fucking fun.

Like it helps you learn why things are the way they are

[arctic talon]

tbf this is done ironically

this is meant to be absurdist

[dusk patrol]

Dude WWII is so unrealistic. All these countries, making all those tanks, ships, guns, vehicles, just 20 years after World War 1?

Terrible writing

[arctic talon]

ikr

[opaque coyote]

But also it's fun to imagine what if the Nazi's had fucking laser guns or some shit

[gray umbra]

wait

there was a world war 1?

[arctic talon]

no

world war 2 didn't happen

silly

[dusk patrol]

Also really, calling World War I the war to end all wars? Yeah real subtle writing.

Cringe shit

Half the main characters just outright say World War II is gonna happen right after it’s done too

[opaque coyote]

I know

But there's probably somebody writing something even more absurd.

...but as a genuine argument to how Germany can win WW2

Spoiler warning. They couldn't

[arctic talon]

World war 2 never occured in chainsaw man

because ||pochita ate the nazi devil||

not even a joke

[opaque coyote]

Like ironically enough, our timeline is the BEST the Nazi's could've gone

[vagrant fox]

I feel if they really applied themselves and didn't waste time baking people they could've done a bit better

[arctic talon]

they wouldn't have

not without making them not nazis

lol

[vagrant fox]

Like another 20 planes maybe

[opaque coyote]

"Just don't invade Russia."

Ignoring the fact that Hitler hated slavs with all of his shriveled heart and one ball

[arctic talon]

lol

[arctic talon]

also they needed the oil

lol

[gray umbra]

should have research evs smh

[jade holly]

I feel like it would be common knowledge to not invade Russia during the winter

But what do I know

[vagrant fox]

should've just made vampire soldiers

[opaque coyote]

I mean they started in the summer

The Russians just dragged it long enough until it began to get cold

[jade holly]

Should’ve started in winter so it would be summer by the time the real fighting starts

EZ

[arctic talon]

LOL

[dusk patrol]

There’s definitely a lot of ways it could have gone better for them or they could have held territory

[opaque coyote]

But it would've probably only bought them like

What

A year?

[dusk patrol]

Yeah Europe would never let an ally be occupied

For decades

[vagrant fox]

Should've just not gone to war smh, easiest fix of my life

[opaque coyote]

Because the problem with the ideology is that they always need more to consume

More to conquer

Fascism does not allow people to stop and think

"Wait... Why are we doing this exactly?"

[arctic talon]

tech priest moment

The mechanicus would

[dusk patrol]

They forgot to pick up the secret Jewish Illuminati stash

Common mistake

[raven stone]

and in the Imperium’s case, not helped by The Emperor not actually telling anyone.

[opaque coyote]

I know it's probably just like the guns popping out of the walls.

But now I'm imagining this

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jojos-bizarre-adventures-the-best-in-the-world-guns-gif-15566867

[vagrant fox]

I was about to ask why there's just random automatic guns and servitor death squads walking around the place

[arctic talon]

its around a mechanicus forge complex

you're sneaking around

also grendyl didn't give you a badge to flash

plausible deniability ig

but Wrath and Glory doesn't let you do the normal inqusition thing in TTRPGs

where you pull out a rosette lol

[opaque coyote]

Wolfenstein be like

[vagrant fox]

I was imagining it's just around in the hive. Likely Grendyl doesn't want to upset the cogheads

[dusk patrol]

The moral of Wolfenstein is actually that Hitler was right and it’s the Jews fault the Nazis won

[opaque coyote]

I could totally use this out of context but I'm not that mean

So

[arctic talon]

regardless whatever is going on in wrath and glory seems very clandestine

[raven stone]

Y’know if it wasn’t for the fact that the time line was so different I would have thought the Da’at Yichud were the Ad Mech precursor…

[arctic talon]

considering you don't get The Badge™️

(a rosette)

I'm surprised cubicle 7 didn't rip the rosette system from Maledictum

[dusk patrol]

Well I don’t care much I’m Jewish, but it is kinda the

[arctic talon]

it would work in Wrath and Glory

[dusk patrol]

Problematic interpretation of the secret Jew society

[opaque coyote]

Well

It was canon that the Doom Guy is BJ's grandson

[jade holly]

And it’s canon Doomguy and Isabelle from Animal Crossing are married

[opaque coyote]

So maybe it's actually the UAC's predecessor

Which just

[arctic talon]

is grendyl an actual dumbass

[jade holly]

Nintendo had a wedding and everything

[opaque coyote]

Makes it worse

[jade holly]

[arctic talon]

either that

or there's more inqusitiors on tertium

[dusk patrol]

lol

“No you guys don’t get codes figure it out”

[green loom]

Are they rebuilding the Tower of Babel in TC

[opaque coyote]

God damn how good is that Tertium steel jesus

[raven stone]

🤣 oh man the unfortunate implications of THAT…

[jade holly]

What is this for?

[arctic talon]

Wrath and Glory's campaign module for Darktide

[raven stone]

It’s worse than attempting to deny a (Grey Knight’s) Holocaust cast…

[arctic talon]

where you're a bunch of rejects/grendyls other agents

[jade holly]

That will be implemented in game one day?

[arctic talon]

no

prolly not

its set on Tertium

[jade holly]

I just want a playable Admech smh

[arctic talon]

and you're grendyl's forces

[opaque coyote]

Real

[vagrant fox]

you get a tech menial and that's it, at best

[raven stone]

I mean given it is Wrath and Glory based

You could port the Skitarii profile over…?

[gray umbra]

a fifth class/archetype would be cool

[opaque coyote]

Honestly would be kinda sick anyways.

I also thought about like a literal Gun Servitor

Like you play as a Servitor

[arctic talon]

oh hey another way they were spreading the walking pox

[opaque coyote]

Line opportunities would be boring though

[arctic talon]

turns out they snuck that shit

into medical stuff lol

[young pecan]

A tech adept whose three blitz options are all various servoskulls with different functions like in the Mechanicus game

Would be sick

[opaque coyote]

...

Y'know injecting those syringes scattered around are probably not a good idea

[green loom]

I mean we did get them from the heretics..

That was kinda like

A given

[young pecan]

That was my first thought

[opaque coyote]

Would be funny if like

[arctic talon]

some moebian 21st/53rd dude made their last stand lol

[opaque coyote]

There's a 10% chance to suddenly get like

[young pecan]

Strange that the heretics would craft anti-corruption stims

[opaque coyote]

Corruption

[young pecan]

Why did they do that

Are they stupid

[arctic talon]

the anti corruption stims are probably to stave off mutations

tbh

[green loom]

Moebian 6th aren't like

Fully into it

[young pecan]

Porehaps

[opaque coyote]

Tbf they're supposed to be for actual medical shit

[green loom]

So I can see them taking steps to work around some stuff

[opaque coyote]

Since the Moebians haven't finished the Kool aid

But still though. Imagine how fucking disgusting those needles are

[young pecan]

Yes my fellow dregs, I love grandfather's gifts.. (tosses empty syringe behind them)

[vagrant fox]

Hey if drugfiends can share needles, so can we

[young pecan]

Fallout New Vegas logic

[opaque coyote]

Then again if Darktide actually was fully compliant with lore. We would've gotten corrupted 40 times over tbh

[young pecan]

I AM using the psycho and med x that I just looted off of the disease-ridden junkie whose body isn't even cold yet

[young pecan]

I've been told that the only reason we aren't is a combination of willpower and a ritual that was done to us at the start of the game

Idk how truedge though

[opaque coyote]

Most likely just gameplay tbh

Because

Why the fuck would Grendyl waste Psyker power on random ass rejects

[young pecan]

It seems to have been referenced by I think Masozi or Hadron in the heretic radio mission I recall

Forget what they said though, because that mission is boring

[hallow basin]

I mean, we're planetside for an hour tops, half an hour most of the time, and we get purified and checked with gruesome surgery upon return, it's somewhat plausible

[arctic talon]

also

strong force of will

the player rejects are quite literally built better

[young pecan]

A reject asks why we're not corrupted or something, mission announcer says "Don't worry about it just do the job"

[opaque coyote]

Honestly I like to think that all of our contributions are canon.

But because the Imperium is the Imperium. It's mostly ignored

[hallow basin]

Could be cool if we occasionally saw poxwalker/groaner in the prison robes

[arctic talon]

would be cool tbh

[opaque coyote]

Like we killed more Chaos Spawns and Beasts of Nurgle than the average SM kill team

But we just get ignored

[arctic talon]

okay so maybe, the anti corruption stims aren't the Moebians

[opaque coyote]

Because we're disgusting outcasts. Why should they get the credit?

[arctic talon]

well if our kill counts were accurate

the 6th would be extinct

[young pecan]

All space marines know is codex, hipfire they bolter, eat recycled suit shit and die

[opaque coyote]

True

[opaque coyote]

All space Marines after Primaris

[young pecan]

Rejects know only the high of the stim whose operation they JUST shut down and the everlasting beauty of the thunder hammer

[arctic talon]

tertium might be an even shittier state then assumed

[green loom]

Ah he was trying to protect workers, makes sense it's past tense

[vagrant fox]

Haven't we wiped out the average hive city out by a few times

[arctic talon]

if the veil is this thin lol

[arctic talon]

yeah

I think its some cool lore

[opaque coyote]

How tf hasn't the planet been bombed yet

Legit this is actually grounds for exterminatus

[arctic talon]

what in the actual fuck

yeah no tertium

should be blown up LOL

[vagrant fox]

Man Tertium is fucked, nice

[opaque coyote]

HOW GOOD IS THAT MOEBIAN STEEL JESUS CHRIST

Must be some really good shit if we haven't literally bombed the planet het

[arctic talon]

I respect the grind Grendyl

[soft thunder]

Grendyl forgot to ask his ex to pack the exterminatus missiles

[vagrant fox]

Maybe that other nonexistent hive has something of equal value to moebian steel

[opaque coyote]

Would be funny if exterminatus requests were actually sent but got lost bc adminstratum

[arctic talon]

Grendyl doesn't need to make a request

for a exterminatus

[opaque coyote]

Right true

Inquistors don't need to get audited for it

Maybe he just lacks the missiles

[tough haven]

Bro he gets fear 2 for having fucking scars?

[arctic talon]

i guess lol

Aura

[tough haven]

Nah moebian steel is JUST that good

[opaque coyote]

...either that or that Moebian steel is some

God tier shit

[green loom]

You talk to other inquisitors about Exterminatus if you want to make sure you don't get excommunicated ahead of time

But he has full authority to order it on a whim

And answer questions later

[arctic talon]

also, the cult of the adominition is firing this shit at us prolly

[opaque coyote]

Ceramite must be pussy ass shit compared to Moebian steel Jesus christ

[soft thunder]

I'm scared to read the wrath and glory man. It's will make me aware that everything on the wiki needs updated 😭

Also is there anything about moebian steel in it?

[opaque coyote]

Y'know what would be funny?

We find a group of tech priests

They're looking over an ingot of Moebian steel

It's on a shrine

They're praising it like it's the OMNISSIAH'S revival from the golden throne

[arctic talon]

there's nothing that contradicts your stuff on the wiki from what I've read

[soft thunder]

i mean it'd be hadron's golden ticket to maybe getting a rank up in the admech

[arctic talon]

there is not

[soft thunder]

[arctic talon]

there's a surprising amount of mechanicus presence in the lower hive

[green loom]

Skitarii confirmed?????????????

[arctic talon]

also another grendyl quote

[green loom]

Banger addition to W&G?

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[vagrant fox]

i trust him 🙂

[dusk patrol]

I just hope there isn’t a lame reveal one day about how “actually Grendyl just wanted the Holy Ballsack of St. Macgufficus and then they’re gonna dip”

[arctic talon]

Tbf

he is after a mcguffin in this one

but he does want you to also kill heretics

[arctic talon]

prolly one of the best campaign modules

[rose thorn]

Any recommendations for digital card games?

[storm jungle]

yeah its essentially a sidequest

[dusk patrol]

Balatro

Lazy answer but

[rose thorn]

Fair, the past like 3 digital card games I got into are hell

[dusk patrol]

Ur essentially a side quest

[storm jungle]

Shut up

[storm jungle]

Balatro is the most overrated yet correct answer

its like extremely good

very much deserved the awards it got

[arctic talon]

least deranged tech priest order

[arctic talon]

Balatro, Slay the spire

[rose thorn]

If it won game of the year it would ahve been the funniest thing ever, but the PS5 demo game getting it is almost as funny

[dusk patrol]

I don’t even buy that many people played Robit game

[rose thorn]

I love slay the spire tbh

[dusk patrol]

It looks fun but idk

[arctic talon]

I wanted metaphor Peak refantazio to win

but thats because I like JRPGs

[dusk patrol]

I voted for Hideo Kojima’s Excessive Unedited Word Salad Eurotruck simulator

But it’s not out this year

Hate to see it

[arctic talon]

very good, endlessly replayable

[rose thorn]

i wish all of the pvp card games werent in utter hell

[arctic talon]

Play yugioh master dual/hj

Yugioh is always in hell

[rose thorn]

I unironically heard good things about it in the modern day

[arctic talon]

This is the slowest the game has been since like 2006

[rose thorn]

I liked the pokemon tcg but now it’s literally just a card collection game

[arctic talon]

Games last around 2-6 turns

[rose thorn]

I have no clue how the hell deck building would even work in the game

[arctic talon]

Yugioh?

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Usually you build a specific archetype of cards

And then some support cards unrelated to it

this has been the case since like yugioh GX so like 2005

but Yugioh is very archetype focused

say for example you want to build a Blue Eyes White Dragon deck

blue eyes white dragon is part of the blue eyes archetype so you would be running cards part of that archetype to support it mostly

or you would run cards that generally support the Dragon monster type

or you could run both ect.

along with usual utility options

stuff like these 2 are pretty much always going to end up in every deck due to how fast the game is

also this one

yes that is the meteor that killed all the dinosaurs

[rose thorn]

ahh neat

[arctic talon]

but yeah yugioh deck building imo is like

not the most diverse regarding utility cards

but is really diverse playstyle wise

[vagrant fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555301947146502144/1349908945157885963/Untitled32_20250312215751.png?ex=67d4d02c&is=67d37eac&hm=aad7bdb24817a49da34a5bdcf82bd96b4dcb17d25ce59d6704027d319cd7f7dd&

[vagrant fox]

What's the forgefather, a cloning and other industry machine combo?

[wintry scarab]

Wrong snake but the pic goes hard

[arctic talon]

its a giant train

[vagrant fox]

That is important, they're doing well then

[keen nova]

M36 lasguns use irons when that top tube is gone. Always about wondered that

Irons beneath my optic.

[green loom]

Imo i think it might've been done due to typical trends in shooters(holos and scopes over irons) and it also kinda works to sell the "Inquisition Strike Team" vibe

[sacred ginkgo]

Aiming those on irons with the amount of visual recoil they have would not be fun

[keen nova]

Amazed that the 6th can pull of bursts the way they do

[green loom]

Player lasgun is prolly higher recoil to compensate for shooting feedback

Also isn't made with the assumption the irons are usable

[arctic talon]

player lasgun is def more recoil heavy on purpose

because recoil is fun™️

[keen nova]

I calk it up to gamey reasons. its the battle rifle of the game so it needs the best optic. Meanwhile, the accatran has iron despite being from the forge world known for hi tech and quality

[arctic talon]

recoil makes gamers think a gun is stronger

an observed effect from battlefield 4 and 3

the Chinese AR in BF4 was assumed to be better then the US one by a lot of people

despite having identical stats

the thing kicked more visually and was louder

[keen nova]

same with the thicc'er laser. but in this case it is

[arctic talon]

yeah

[green loom]

Gamey nonsense tends to inform lore more than the other way around

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

40k lore is like, an aesthetic you stick on the game and the specific rules you get to set yourself

Very nebulous

[storm jungle]

also remember GW looked at it and said its fine

so even more tickmarks ontop of that

[keen nova]

I love all of it, its just nice to finally know how they aim a lasgun

however

[storm jungle]

Yeah this game invented that ironsight for kantreals

because in artwork its literally a flat top

there isnt even a ironsight lol

[green loom]

It sometimes has the raised ridge TBF

[keen nova]

theres supposed to be a tube there...

[storm jungle]

I mean that raised tube is not a sight

its just a tube

[green loom]

My life is a lie

[storm jungle]

Seen here

[arctic talon]

it also invented

the arched red dot lol

[storm jungle]

even Space Marine 1 gave kantreal lasguns scopes

[arctic talon]

the sights in Darktide are so fun

[storm jungle]

which looks weird but lol

[green loom]

I really like it's almost window esque design lol

[storm jungle]

GW is also in the middle of kinda retconning the kantreal's look in some official media

[keen nova]

I'd have to find the art and then see if its official, but could have sworn I've seen that tube have a looking glass on the user end...

[storm jungle]

which i dont really like but whatever

[storm jungle]

Even if its true its still just classic 40k inconsistency

a lot of artwork just shows it as a flat top with a metal tube

[arctic talon]

it varies wildly design wise rn

its so funny

[storm jungle]

Yeah i really dont like it

[green loom]

They do flip around a lot as well

[arctic talon]

I'm choosing to believe its all a bunch of different similar patterns

the new guard codex

has mostly the old design

[storm jungle]

Nah it is

but for some reason they ALWAYS make them use the garand one

the bottom one in this pic

[arctic talon]

yeah

[storm jungle]

its really weird

[arctic talon]

idk why they exclusively use that one

for closeups

[storm jungle]

definitely marketing reasons

[arctic talon]

ig

[keen nova]

Uh

[arctic talon]

but the old design

[queen laurel]

shame it doesn't make a ping sound

[arctic talon]

is also on sprue as well

LOL

so like ????

GW PLS

[storm jungle]

KEK

[arctic talon]

Like

there's 5 lasguns

of the old design on the sprue

[keen nova]

I think the planet of kantrel did take a hit right after Cadia

[arctic talon]

also the cadian upgrade sprue

lmao

[keen nova]

The purple eyed bastards did take it back tho

[arctic talon]

Kantreal didn't fall in the first place

but it was attacked pretty badly yeah

[storm jungle]

^

but thats not really a reason for its appearance

[green loom]

I wonder if it's a byproduct of making them more detailed and wanting to make them look cheaply less advanced by removing the pistol grip

[arctic talon]

also Agripinaa manufactures the kantreal pattern as well

which is

[storm jungle]

its just

new technology for modelling
more detailed sculpt details

[arctic talon]

weird

[queen laurel]

that right there is enough to piss off warhammer fans

[storm jungle]

BLACK

also WOMEN

[arctic talon]

no

[keen nova]

This could be an upgraded or cheaper version then

[arctic talon]

what makes me mad

NEED MORE

[green loom]

My least favourite aspect of the guard rework is the masks tbh

I mean

[arctic talon]

its the old hostile environment mask design

but in plastic

[queen laurel]

these are kasrin helmets?

[green loom]

It's not THAT different

[arctic talon]

now granted the hostile environment kit got discontinued

lol

[storm jungle]

bro