40k-lore-chat

[queen laurel]

yeah honestly a good multiverse story is still fun

but that's like very hard to pull off

So much multiverse crap has been around the media that if you can somehow use the formula and make something good

[storm jungle]

Yeeee

[queen laurel]

I applaud you

[plush mason]

tbf i like that DC used the multiverse to explain the society of super villains, as it was founded by the evil justice league from earth 2

[shadow plover]

multiverse is such a shit fucking trope RAAAAH

[storm jungle]

hahaha suffer

[spare osprey]

Rename it Comic Rivals and add DC in the game

funniest shit ever

[spring cairn]

what if there's this alternate dimension, but the good guys are kind of not good

[storm jungle]

what if right

theres an alternate dimension

where i stick my foot up your-

[shadow plover]

they should do horus heresy but in the other universe it's the opposite sides

[storm jungle]

no

[spring cairn]

very good idea

[spare osprey]

What if warhammer.

[spring cairn]

let's call it the Dornian heresy

[shadow plover]

call it like, the Dornian heresy or some shit

[plush mason]

so noblebright

[shadow plover]

it'll go wild

[spare osprey]

What if glup shitto didn’t spit on the hammer of death

10,000 worlds die

[spring cairn]

what if Horus Lupercal wasn't a bald ass motherfucker

[spare osprey]

What if Horus had hair implants

[queen laurel]

here's a version of the thing made out of infinity stones to piss you off

[shadow plover]

what if he fucking slayed

[storm jungle]

STOP THIS

[shadow plover]

so here's the thing

[plush mason]

wtf

[spare osprey]

Oh yeah infinity thing

They should add old man thing into rivals

[spring cairn]

they should add dog welder to rivals

[storm jungle]

ok but

Dogwelder is legit based

[plush mason]

who

[storm jungle]

oh god

[queen laurel]

thats DC

[storm jungle]

whos gonna tell him

[spare osprey]

Rock beard

[queen laurel]

i will

[spring cairn]

dogwelder is someone who as the name implies

[queen laurel]

Dogwelder it's A DC superhero that welds dead dogs to people

[spring cairn]

does exactly what the name implies

[storm jungle]

also like

it could end there

but his backstory is legit fucking insane

he has like some fucking egyptian curse from Anubis

that makes him do this shit

its so funny

[queen laurel]

yeah he's like a nothing burger character

[celest dome]

Isn't he the 2nd or 3rd Dogwelder ?

[queen laurel]

That's just psychologically a pyromain

[plush mason]

fucker sounds like someone from the watchmen

[storm jungle]

real

[spring cairn]

when will they make stillbornwelder

[shadow plover]

thank you for killing the chat

it was horrid

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-17147450

[plush mason]

lmao

[storm jungle]

Hey I gotta work its not my fault

[plush mason]

adulting

[sacred bluff]

Quit and sit on discord all day

[shadow plover]

I'm at work sitting on discord all day

how's that any different

[plush mason]

you dont get paid

[raven stone]

Bleh middle Earth stuff

HH or 40k stuff when

[plush mason]

?

[queen laurel]

I'm off Braining myself into the wall

[raven stone]

Warhammer community

[queen laurel]

Through skull thickening exercises I can finally stop a car with a head butt

[shadow plover]

then, oop- neck gave out

[plush mason]

why would you want to do that?

[queen laurel]

to challenge Mount Everest in a Headbutting contest

[plush mason]

fair

[vagrant fox]

I could sincerely fuck up 1-5 peoples life at the same time if I really tried

Lasting mental trauma stuff

Bet I could fight a gorilla for about 9 seconds too

[shadow plover]

I'm sure you can pump those numbers higher

[plush mason]

who are you the IRS?

[vagrant fox]

I should be

since we're always on the topic of invincible, time to watch that

[hallow saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX4GOltUDdA

I have not seen severance

[crisp heath]

Is it worth a watch?

[storm jungle]

Its very good

[crisp heath]

I'm gonna give it a go , been binging curb your enthusiasm need to watch something else

[dusk patrol]

Well went through all the comics again

Pretty good, definitely uh

Not as well written at some bits but the core ideas are there

Very curious how they’re gonna do some parts

They could easily get like 5-6 more seasons

[tough haven]

I love these lmao

[plush mason]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167179125581160608/1349739461591961681/are-we-actual-space-kommis-v0-9rjejaxkvfoe1.webp?ex=67d43254&is=67d2e0d4&hm=2af030183e79b3a4868064086947e3624dfea3924af8997dff088ea5bec02b0a&

enjoy

[celest dome]

The Bots are closer to how the Imperium work

[spring cairn]

acthually the odds aren't stacked against SuperEarth they're heavily in their favour

[crystal forum]

this post has been fact checked by a true democratic patriot

[spring cairn]

no like, they own the milky way

[queen laurel]

You're telling me that the faction that's getting bum rushed on like three directions by three enemy factions is doing pretty well against them?

[spring cairn]

yeah, they own the galaxy and not in the same way the imperium does

they aren't fractured

[storm jungle]

its mostly because HD2 also like

doesnt really do a galactic war really well

it makes the Milky Way seem extremely small which i get why they do

Super Earth also benefits alot from the protagonist syndrome as they can never lose

[hallow plover]

That's the propaganda

[storm jungle]

unless its like uh Planet of Democracius gets destroyed

[spring cairn]

i think it's expected considering the bodies and resources they have at their disposal

[storm jungle]

we dont really know either way

every lore we get is 90% propaganda

[queen laurel]

To be fair the average derange hell diver screaming i will die with honor as they arm a nuke on their back and charge the enemy horde also helps

[storm jungle]

and the devs never go into how much they own the milky way

so its all guesswork

[hallow plover]

We have the superearth wagie pov

[spring cairn]

i mean just look at the map

[storm jungle]

Yeah but its not really a good map

a single corner of the galaxy is represented as like 6 planets lol

[spring cairn]

1 planet represent 1 system

[storm jungle]

Yeah and there still isnt enough

[crystal forum]

it's mostly just barely populated colonies

[storm jungle]

the milky way has like 100 billion planets lol

[storm jungle]

also this yeah

[spring cairn]

that's purely technical

and gameplay related

[storm jungle]

we got no way of knowing how much of the galaxy S.E "owns"

[crystal forum]

no it isn't there's city planets

[hallow plover]

Gameplay versus lore thingy

[storm jungle]

^

[spring cairn]

there is cities now

[storm jungle]

I DO hope one day they actually like

[vagrant fox]

100% in the name of freedom and liberty hell yeah bruther

[spring cairn]

only on the bug side

[storm jungle]

really flesh out and look at the universe more

[spring cairn]

because they aren't done making them on the bot side

[storm jungle]

or like it gets an RPG or some shit

but i doubt it

id really like to look more into the world itself

[crystal forum]

people living on other planets are always referred to as colonists

[spring cairn]

yeah because they worship super earth

[crystal forum]

like it's a frontier that's only recently been expanded

[storm jungle]

also planets are always contested to some degree, but yeah either way its not really worth the debate imo we basically know next to nothing.

[spring cairn]

everyone who doesn't live on earth will forever be a colonist

[crystal forum]

also super earth doesn't seem to have any permanent fleet since planets keep being invaded

what kind of military presence is that

they build like 2 permanent stations

[storm jungle]

Yeah again its barely explained

[hallow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ohyeaaah-helldiver-super-earth-ayyy-gif-17581238741426089623

[storm jungle]

its why i hope we get some lore supplement or some 3rd party shit

[misty vector]

I believe they do have a fleet, its just all off screen

[hallow plover]

You will never be this guy

[spring cairn]

they mention that but it's background stuff that's not explained

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah

again they dont really like

represent a galactic war well at all

[spring cairn]

because if they did they'd have to make assest for them

[storm jungle]

but its mostly a budget thing lol

[crystal forum]

i'm just saying, they dont have the galaxy really locked down

[storm jungle]

Yeah no they cannot

again 800+ Billion planets

theres no way they got all that shit under their thumb lol

[vagrant fox]

SEAF is there but we don't seem to know much about them

[storm jungle]

they exist to be dead corpse props

[crystal forum]

robot matter

[spare osprey]

Gimme a

SEAF call down

[hallow plover]

What's with that black hole thing on the map? I skipped a few patches

[spare osprey]

Random ai wandering around being my meat shields

[spring cairn]

where the SEAF wins or manages to hold they don't need to send you the player in

[crystal forum]

they nuked a nid planet

[misty vector]

Its the big story rn

[vagrant fox]

We black holed a planet because of bugs

[spare osprey]

Old bug planet we killed, turned into a black hole

Turns out the squids were in the black hole dimension or something

So they came back and are putting fuel into the black hole to shove it at super earth and eat it

[crystal forum]

democracy will prevent this

[storm jungle]

^

its prob gonna go nowhere

like uhhh

maybe destroy 2-3 more planets

players will cry about it

then the black hole will get defeated

cue text popup

[crystal forum]

remember when the playerbase curb stomped bots so hard that devs had to break their own non influence rule to bring them back

[storm jungle]

Shit my bad also forgot the playerbase blaming bot/bugdiver players for "not stopping the wormhole" as if its not the most scripted thing ever and super earth was never under threat

[storm jungle]

I mean no?

[misty vector]

the aliens are like setting their spawn point closer to super earth or somethign

[storm jungle]

the bots would always come back

[hallow saddle]

hi my name is Bill Killionnaires

[storm jungle]

what sort of dumbass developer would remove an entire enemy faction from the game

lol

[crystal forum]

that's how the first game went if you pushed them out

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats a singleplayer thing

well mostly anyway

theres no online war

I legit think anyone that thought the automatons would get perma-deleted is an ultra dumbass

[hallow saddle]

I so prefer fighting bugs

[storm jungle]

Also same

[hallow saddle]

Not even gonna lie

[storm jungle]

Automatons are fun but like

[crystal forum]

i have 0 bug kills

[storm jungle]

i prefer having fun and not getting blasted by bullshit tank turrets

lol

[crystal forum]

i will kill socialist bots forever

[hallow saddle]

I don't even know what ot take against bots

[crystal forum]

take your belief in democracy

[storm jungle]

shut up

[hallow saddle]

Not any of the shit I use against bugs anyway

[storm jungle]

Helldivers roleplaying will bet met with a firing squad

[storm jungle]

pro tip: just take the anti-tank turret + tesla gun or whatever the fuck its name is

[crystal forum]

have a cup of liber AAAALLL

[sacred bluff]

That's not very super earth of you

[vagrant fox]

Bugs are so tedious to fight for me, shove me into the shittiest bot front any time

[storm jungle]

the tesla gun stuns like every humanoid bot unit in the game, even bugs

the AT emplacement just kills anything as well

[hallow saddle]

Torcher, Stalwart, impacts mmmm

[crystal forum]

AT turret is so broken

i love it

[hallow saddle]

Kill bugs

[storm jungle]

i mean

its an anti-tank firing platform

if it was weak id remove arrowheads balls

[hallow saddle]

Yeah lol

Insane firepower rocks

[crystal forum]

anyways city maps can suck my b

[vagrant fox]

Gotta be honest I don't much like fighting the squids

Especially in city maps

[crystal forum]

you need to use very specific tactics and they're so easy

[storm jungle]

You dont like fighting them now?

[hallow saddle]

I like the city maps, against bugs tho

[crystal forum]

but the tactics are so boring

[storm jungle]

Man wait until they get more units

thats gonna be peak cancer

💀

[vagrant fox]

I remember the first game

[storm jungle]

LOL

yep

[crystal forum]

that means less spam of the current limited list

im happy with that

[vagrant fox]

Freakin laser walls everywhere with a shared camera was sort of fun though

[storm jungle]

everyone always says this

then the new units get released

everyone whines

then they get nerfed

[crystal forum]

i wouldn't whine if every time they added bots it wasn't the exact opposite of what is wanted

players say missile spam sucks ass
devs add artillery missile tank

[storm jungle]

good, suffer

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldiver-helldivers2-illuminate-squid-gif-1971630322834839548

[storm jungle]

real

[crystal forum]

anyways i play dwarf fortress now

[vagrant fox]

The ragdolling can get annoying but man I love the chaos of the bot front

[crystal forum]

and i will name my first noble "dilara"

and i hope he dies

[storm jungle]

NOOOOO

[vagrant fox]

https://tenor.com/view/dans-eden-kurt-turan-kurt-yaşasınırkımız-kurt-dans-gif-19167027

da turkish spirit will never die

[crystal forum]

i wont kill him

but i'll wish

[vagrant fox]

Dwarves are just going to die horrifically somehow, they're like hamsters

[crystal forum]

not my dwarves

i actually autism that game

[vagrant fox]

I do for a while, but then I get bored. One of my early games I decided what they'd do if I just stopped anything but automated tasks to see how they dealt with hoary zombie marmots

[crystal forum]

also my world is 750 years old so most of the dwarf civilizations are dead

somehow

you wont believe this

there were 2 ages of myth and 2 ages of legends

-age of myth 1
-age of legends 1
-age of myths 2
-age of legends 2

i have no clue how that can happen

[vagrant fox]

The worldgen is mysterious, look in the legends if you dare

[crystal forum]

that means the amount of beasts went up post gen

[vagrant fox]

My favourite world was one where I let it gen overnight to the year 5665 and my dwarves were the only ones left in the world besides another colony of 4

[crystal forum]

how tf

[vagrant fox]

Maybe they shagged nasty to make more

[crystal forum]

every time i world gen i see all dwarves get curb stomped eventually i dont get it

[queen laurel]

find the most battle hungry dwarf and give him my name

[crystal forum]

i limited the necromancer tablets to fucking 2 and they still appear everywhere like vermin

[crystal forum]

yes my lord

[crisp heath]

Name the dumbest one after me

[crystal forum]

i only just started

[vagrant fox]

Doesn't help that goblins and whatnot are immortal, except for violent deaths

or disease

[crystal forum]

i love elves in legends

born 23
no death at 750

wives:
49

im going to make my fortress very warrior based

and go to war with everybody

see how long i can last

[vagrant fox]

The elves are kind of thots

also you should tame crundles I love the little guys

[crystal forum]

fuck off bot

[queen laurel]

<@&735928989146939404>

[storm jungle]

Augh

[spare osprey]

Aww but I wanted the Free Dyski

[hallow saddle]

Justice for Yarrick!!

[vagrant fox]

whomst

[raven stone]

Ash Waste article is out lol

[hallow plover]

Man I used to play that looong ago

Fun times

[vagrant fox]

'member when they didn't have Z levels

[hallow plover]

It's sold on steam now??

[vagrant fox]

I think I was too stupid to figure it out back then, or inattentive, or both

Yea

They needed to raise money for some illness I forget

[hallow plover]

Playing the game with ascii symbols

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

[crisp heath]

They have a terminal case of ligma

I have no idea what the topic is forgive me

[vagrant fox]

also a tumor

I remembered because of the ligma

Dwarf Fortress devs had a lot of medical bills so they started actually selling the game, was all

[crisp heath]

I feel really bad now LOL

[vagrant fox]

These things happen

[crystal forum]

try the steam version

it's good

and tarn deserves the money

[hallow plover]

I think I will

[crystal forum]

it has many many QOL features

[vagrant fox]

They just added adventure mode back not too long ago right?

[crystal forum]

yep

and they added new world gen structures

mysterious stuff

basically boss locations

[hallow plover]

Is it easier to learn now?

[crystal forum]

it has a lot of in game tutorials

[vagrant fox]

I'd say so, Kruggsmash has an okay tutorial on youtube if you can stand him

[crystal forum]

and hardcore dwarves would say it's a bit dumbed down compared to free version

i say that's a good thing

the default graphics pack is very extensive also

[raven stone]

HH turns out to be for the tiny game -.-

[gray umbra]

Anyone play any coq

[crystal forum]

as often as i can

[crystal forum]

i hate that imperialis is lumped in with HH even though the games having nothing in common except for the setting

[hallow saddle]

What's ligma??

[hallow saddle]

🛌 me whenever any article comes out for the tiny game

Literally couldn't be less interested!!!!!

[crisp heath]

Ligma balls

[hallow saddle]

Ffffuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!

[crisp heath]

[storm jungle]

Bro letting him make a ligma joke is crazy 💀

wouldnt let that happen to me

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers2-gunships-automaton-lasers-arrowhead-gif-15799280112128997899

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-the-boys-homelander-sad-homelander-its-peak-homelander-peak-gif-14542009839452529163

fuck someone already made Ogryn conquest

i was about to

[rose thorn]

Shit

I guess I need to make an HH knight house

[hallow saddle]

It's for the tiny game

[hallow saddle]

i do it every time

[rose thorn]

I know

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

I love tiny game

It’s my favorite models to look at

[small grail]

done the unthinkable

[storm jungle]

I made one like a year ago, i still recommend it lmao

[vagrant fox]

After having watched it, the whole series should be about him it'd be very cool trust me

[small grail]

40,00 weapons in 40k

40,000

[vagrant fox]

whatfor

[celest dome]

What is it ?

[raven stone]

If this is the specific aesthetic you like you need to start an Ad Mech knight House.

Generic Knight houses are less tech-y in appearance

[raven stone]

Standard trickery to try to get more people to buy

[crystal forum]

it's so hard to differentiate the boxes sometimes when you're reading a list. then you're disappointed because 90% of a third party store's HH inventory is imperialis shit that nobody buys

[rose thorn]

Normal house not admech house

[crystal forum]

this listing isn't even legal

you're not allowed to fake a discount like that

[raven stone]

That also looks like a very US listing...

And how on earth would 5000 be the original price!?

[hallow saddle]

Loads of places crank the price up before black Friday to make it look like a better discount

And businesses offer big discounts on high list prices when selling to other businesses all the time

And also if it's America then consumer protections are probably gonna be cut anyway lool

[rose thorn]

Hey what day is adepticon again?

[raven stone]

March 26

I am guessing we get Grey Knights preview at that point.

Since they are next in line IIRC

[rocky gale]

FEC reveals

[queen laurel]

please please please i am begging GW I want a new terrorgheist

[green loom]

Can you believe it guys?

Adepticon!

Just 2 weeks away

[tough haven]

Anyone got the darktide opening text I’m trying to write a variation of it

[raven stone]

FEC?

[queen laurel]

Flesh Eater Courts

[raven stone]

Ah

[queen laurel]

age of sigmar faction

[raven stone]

…very random thought.

With the way the new Belakor detachment works

I suddenly want to have Belakor leading some Heretic Ravenguard Chaos Marines

(Due to how the whole shadow thing ironically fits RG a bit better than most)

[spare osprey]

We ain’t getting no damn campaign dlc 💀 💀 💀 💀

[queen laurel]

WHAT

why develop another game

This is the equivalent of Overwatch making Overwatch 2

like why

[spare osprey]

Literally

Yall JUST released the game

[queen laurel]

bro no wonder the updates were slow

they've been preparing for the third installment

[arctic talon]

LOL

[shadow plover]

isn't the campaign the main draw anyways

[hallow plover]

Looks like we got bamboozled

[arctic talon]

yes

imo

the MP content is pretty meh

[spare osprey]

I mean ik they just out the damn

Public test servers

[shadow plover]

I'd much prefer a full another instalment instead of a couple slop coop missions

[spare osprey]

To show off new stuff

[queen laurel]

@storm jungle You wanna see something funny

[queen laurel]

dude just make an expansion like

you already have a game running and working

Why develop another one

[spare osprey]

Literally

It’s just gonna divert your attention

[shadow plover]

it's gonna be a couple years before it drops anyways, there will be other stuff for SM2 still

[queen laurel]

yeah but still this is like the gamble of gambles

Making a third sequel for a game that's relatively new

[shadow plover]

it's.. very normal

[queen laurel]

oh zog it i just hope they know what they are doing

[shadow plover]

starting to work on a sequel after half a year of the release of the previous game isn't that odd

[glossy sonnet]

Yeah they should have just done a dlc

[queen laurel]

I guess

[tough haven]

How’s this sound guys?

[queen laurel]

but definitely would have been better as a dlc route let's be honest

[tough haven]

“It is the 41st millennium, and Mankind has taken to the stars. Across a million worlds, every human soul is in service to the God-Emperor of Mankind, from the most high born lord, to the lowest serf. The galaxy is in turmoil as a Great Rift cuts off thousands of systems from the aid of Holy Terra. One such star system is Gilead, with interstellar travel all but impossible and the enemies of humanity assaulting from without and within, survival is tenuous. To exist in such times is to be one among untold billions, to suffer in a cruel and bloody regime. We follow the story of four such unfortunate souls, brought together by a mysterious letter.”

As an introduction

[arctic talon]

idk this is a pretty normal thing

regarding SM3 lol

they never claimed for it to be a long term live service game

[shadow plover]

I don't really agree, full game will be longer than an expansion and probably with improved mechanics

[arctic talon]

also the multiplayer is

very clearly

chopped together

that game went through development hell lol

[tough haven]

What’s it gonna be this time? Uhh deldar?

[arctic talon]

use "to sufffer in the most cruel and bloody regime imaginible"

its Iconic™️

[outer wave]

This really does feel like the old school model of how video game development went: make a game, it was successful, make another installment within a couple years, etc

[arctic talon]

yeah

honestly I don't mind it personally

but w/e

[outer wave]

It feels kinda weird though with how quickly its going about it

[arctic talon]

I've gotten my moneys worth out of it

[outer wave]

That might be my only gripe

[arctic talon]

I think it depends how long it is

between SM2 and 3

for all we know its coming out 2028 or something lol

[queen laurel]

as long as the execution on three is good i can't complain

who knows it might even be better than space marine 2

[shadow plover]

announcing that they're greenlit the project basically means jackshit, it's gonna take ages to come out still

[outer wave]

Probably necrons considering the amount of necron teasing

[shadow plover]

Hopefully!

[outer wave]

You're probably right on that

[glossy sonnet]

i just hope they give sm2 good enough attention until we get 3. We havent even finished the first year pass

there better be more passes

[outer wave]

Im sure they have two teams for that

One for SM2 and one for SM3

[tough haven]

Can’t wait to scythe through tons of enemies that should easily defeat a space marine and make necrons look like wet tissue paper

[queen laurel]

Probably gonna be become the most disconnected from Lord to gameplay out of all the factions

even the most basic gauss rifle can absolutely fuck up a marine

[tough haven]

Eat 14 gauss blasts

[tough haven]

Also battle tanks

[outer wave]

It's space marine bolter wank so they're probably gonna feel relatively piddling in comparison to the fluff

[rose thorn]

Are we gonna get a space marine game every 2 years like cod lmao

[tough haven]

Bro is going to fist fight a ctan

[raven stone]

If the studio wants to milk the fan base…

[tough haven]

Can’t wait to be told every 5 minutes that the stain of suspicion never truly fades and be accused of xenoheresy

And for the real enemy to be the warp, in the least shocking revelation, again

[raven stone]

Nah I think at some point that guy will bite it

He’s a Chaplain, so he has to eventually get cut down. Because.

[tough haven]

I actually really disliked SM2

Played like half the campaign and was like I’m done

It just felt like SM1 but shittier

But I liked SM1

[raven stone]

Because of predictability?

[tough haven]

Just felt like the same game but they cropped out orks and pasted in nids

Like plot wise and everything

[raven stone]

Fair

[tough haven]

And orks are inherently better

Because funny voicelines

Felt better to fight too

[raven stone]

Ok hear me out, throw the fandom into a blender.
SM3 is going against Tau. And nothing but Tau, actual honest Tau only enemy/enemies.

[outer wave]

I'll take it over seeing CoD continue to regress over the coming years

[green loom]

Are we in like

2002

Where you can get a sequel out in like 5 months lmao

[shadow plover]

they announced that they're starting to work on the next one, it's pretty far off still

[glossy sonnet]

In 4 months they are going to announce Space Marine 2 Remaster

[raven stone]

Nah, it gon be SM1 Remaster

SM1 but with SM2 engines and graphics…

[glossy sonnet]

would buy

[raven stone]

True, Orks in SM2 graphics would look glorious

And they have a Firstborn model (Deathwatch opening segment) anyways.

[opaque coyote]

Spoilers for the new Invincible episode btw

||https://youtu.be/zYisRQt4pEo?si=J2R5VTDFMQroljAp||

[winter vessel]

Kind of a bold move to announce they started working on SM3. It hasn’t even been a year since SM2 release

[opaque coyote]

||Fucking love this scene. In any other circumstance that isn't brutalizing somebody, this would be sympathetic. Hell, I still feel a bit of pity for him.||

||Conquest is practically the poster boy for the 'Viltrumite' idea. Violent, stoic, and brutal. However, he is a broken soul. He is lonely, mentally unstable, and socially incompetent.||

||The only way that he can form any relationship... is through murder. Conquest. He can never admit weakness because Viltrum requires everybody to be strong at all times. Especially since their population is gone.||

||Think about how fucked up it is to only be able to vent to people who are about to die. His love of fighting is probably the closest thing he unironically has to a god damned relationship.||

||The worst part is that he is one of the few Viltrumites alive before the purge. He probably remembers what love was like.||

||Not saying that he is a victim or anything. Despite what he says, he 100% isn't. But he has a unique pain compared to most other Viltrumites. He probably knows what love is like. The platonic love of a friend, the romantic love of a partner, the comfort of having somebody simply be there that you can share things with.||

||To summarize, he is a psychopath who's only way of venting. Of showing any kind of weakness. Is by venting to his victims while they are a foot towards death's door.||

||It shows how fucked up Conquest is... and by extension how fucked up the Viltrum ideology is at it's core.||

[celest dome]

In fairness, it's usually how things work (See unannounced FS project)

[opaque coyote]

To be honest I kinda hope SM3 has more characterization

Like I get it

Stoic space super soldier man murdering aliens is fun

But Jesus Christ is the dialogue dry at times

I know it's literally not the focus

But having some actual fun characters would be nice yk

[green loom]

SM2 is so absurdly safe that if it weren't for the blood it'd be as PG as Kingdom Hearts

[vagrant fox]

A very safe game is what it ultimately ended up feeling like for me
There's a lot to like, but it's nothing extraordinary to me

[green loom]

It's if 40k art was a video game

Or codex art I mean

Looks cool but pure marketing

Barely any Imperium presence beyond some guard that die

Righteous space man killing evil spikey man

[arctic talon]

SM2’s story is worse then SM1’s

Which is impressive

[spare osprey]

The dialogue

Is so good

[crystal forum]

let me fucking get home first

you weirdos

[celest dome]

The only good point from SM2 is vindicating ||Leandros||

[spare osprey]

I’m only worried that SM3 will launch with the same or less features

Cause they know it’ll work

[celest dome]

Watch people buy the same cosmetics all over again

[crystal forum]

there's still like 6 years to go

[vagrant fox]

Maybe next time the bolters will feel decent on the higher tier difficulties

Arbitor Ian video on the Executioners

My boys

[celest dome]

The most based thing that they could do for SM3 would be to have Titus fall to Chaos

[outer wave]

Make Titus into a psyker that delves close to becoming a CSM

[vagrant fox]

Naur man

[crystal forum]

horse hershey

[iron mural]

Curious could someone be a kreigsman if they aren’t from kreig?

[arctic talon]

no

[iron mural]

Awww damn

[arctic talon]

the death korps don't have any new "kriegs"

so to speak

their gas mask isn't exclusive to them

since its one of like 2 lucius pattern gas masks

[iron mural]

Damn because I want my zealot in darktide to be a kreigsman but I couldn’t choose to be born from kreig it wasn’t an option unfortunately

[languid meadow]

tbf you can just headcannon it

that's like

the whole point of 40k

the only planet choice that matters for unique stuff is cadia

[iron mural]

Fair point

[arctic talon]

ngl

I would have rather the devs chucked out the custom character stuff

[queen laurel]

The specialized way of cloning already answers that question to be fair

[arctic talon]

because the like, voices do all the heavy work anyways

[iron mural]

Fair I think it’s cool though

[languid meadow]

I like choosing some background like being a part of the schola

just wish it played into the game more

[arctic talon]

too many variations

imo

[iron mural]

It serves literally no purpose

But it’s cool

[arctic talon]

they should have just had a "background"

and recorded like

[languid meadow]

let me cope !

[arctic talon]

a few voice lines

this isn't an RPG

[iron mural]

But you can’t be born from kreig so bad system bad game my kreig zealot can’t make sense

[languid meadow]

It would be cool if you could have a personality but then it will turn into cuthroat all over again

[iron mural]

I feel like any game can be an rpg if you want it to be

[iron mural]

Kreigsman personality would just be more suicidal cutthroat

[queen laurel]

Probably just more robotic

The thing is the Krieg are willing to sacrifice their life it's just that it needs to be useful sacrifice

So if it's a Krieg personality it would be very pragmatic and very cold

[iron mural]

And honestly I dig it because cutthroat is my favorite personality just wish he would shut up about cadia

[queen laurel]

To be fair he watched his world literally blow up in front of him

I don't blame the guy for being a bit too traumatized

And he does get better when you level up so that's nice

[vagrant fox]

There is a story where a kriegsman gets left behind because he was assumed dead, who goes on to grow a bit as a person. You can just make something up

[arctic talon]

Actual rpg is my point tbh

[iron mural]

Ah fair

[languid meadow]

waking up and realizing I have to wait 2 years for season 4

[queen laurel]

Wolf quick aos question

So which would order team up more out of the two death or destruction

[rocky gale]

We got an Atom Eve special inbetween last time, maybe we'll get something else

[languid meadow]

Rex special....

[arctic talon]

Destruction has ogres and gargants so destruction

[queen laurel]

Yeah some of their members work as mercenaries as well like every single race and destruction will willingly work as a mercenary

If the circumstances meet it

[paper haven]

Why didn't rex just explode invincible, since he can make a body explode. Is it limited to only the skeleton?

[arctic talon]

He can't explode fully biological material

his skeleton is augmented/mostly replaced and messed up with a bunch of cybernetics

[paper haven]

Ok see that makes sense.

[arctic talon]

Rex's explosions work off of how dense material is

and his skeleton is like very dense

due to how messed up it is

tbh he really should use chunks of tungsten or shit lol

but then again they might not be able to be thrown far enough

[spring cairn]

his skull so dense it killed invisible

[opaque coyote]

Real

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

True

Like I would've preferred if our Darktide chars were similar to Vermintide or L4D2

In that they're already like

An established character.

With names

That is like the second worst decision they made with the game tbh

The cutscenes would've also been more interesting since they would actually be allowed to talk back

Although, it does go against the theme of "You're playing as what's essentially a inquistorial janitor"

[tough haven]

That would be cool

[tough haven]

But I like being literally just disposable scum

[opaque coyote]

Yeah it's a case of what's fun vs theming pretty much

Warhammer 40k is basically one of the most miserable universes out there. To the point where it's satire.

So it makes sense to have your characters essentially be replaceable cogs.

On the other hand, it would've been more interesting for our characters to actually like

Have more solid characterization

Like that's why the cutscenes are so basic

And why outside of battle we basically say like

Two lines

Honestly it would've been interesting to see like a solidified response to all the accusations and such

Like when you get falsely called to help the pilot. Maybe the characters would react differently

The Ogryn would be confused. Lady call for ship repair right? He would then go forward to try to "fix" the Valkyrie only for the pilot to distract them with food or another task out of desperation to not have their vehicle look like a cybertruck.

The Zealot would be highly suspicious. After all, if the pilot didn't call them. Then who did... And why? Probably some Heresy going around...

The Veteran wouldn't treat as a big deal due to being used to the Imperium fucking up in terms of roll calls and such. Adminstratum mixups happen all the time in the guard. They would just shrug and walk away

And the Psyker...

"Yeah I know. But I didn't want to take any chances since the likelihood of being shot goes up exponentially when I DON'T follow orders."

[plush mason]

yeah but then you couldnt have 4 ogryn in a squad

[lament shoal]

Do SM neophytes have any augmentations during that phase of their training?

[plush mason]

normally no afaik

[lament shoal]

Ty

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Just add a 4th personality

[plush mason]

iirc they get their augments as they go through the neophyte stage

[arctic talon]

Which phase

[lament shoal]

Like when they're being taken out into battles to get combat experience

[arctic talon]

They are

They’re implanted with a good bit of stuff by then

[lament shoal]

Gene seed organs too?

[plush mason]

yeah thats the later stages of being a neophyte

[arctic talon]

Usually just lacking the black carapace

[arctic talon]

Yes

[plush mason]

oof i did not know they got augments at the start lol

[dusk patrol]

Technically not the start

Calgar had already undergone trials by that point

[plush mason]

wait the start of the neophyte process happens before they are even 10?

[plush mason]

the space wolves recruiting from the warriors of the Fenris tribes suddenly got a lot more messed up

[lament shoal]

Yeah space marines get recruited starting at a really young age

[plush mason]

they are child soldiers before they even join the space marines

[viral halo]

this is what teaching is like

[dusk patrol]

They recruit a good amount older

Like 14-16

[plush mason]

still

[dusk patrol]

This for example

Is a aspirant

Who hasn’t even started yet

Fenrisians are uh, built different lol

[vagrant fox]

They're weird

[dusk patrol]

Tfw you never get to release an Ambull on your elementary school kids to find out whose weakest

[vagrant fox]

The Mortifactors fly above their cannibal world looking for children who kill other people in order so survive, them's the good recruits

[plush mason]

would be fun to though

[plush mason]

arent those the comically emo marines?

[dusk patrol]

More just

[vagrant fox]

Raven Guard are more traditionally labelled the emo boys

[dusk patrol]

Insane tribal cannibals

[plush mason]

thats a meme

there is one chapter i heard about that is literally looking to repent to the point they take on the sins of others

like being guilty is their whole culture

[lament shoal]

Boomers describing their time in school be like

[plush mason]

cant remember if they are official or a homebrew though

[vagrant fox]

Nothing comes to mind

[plush mason]

they do some strange mind alteration and implant memories of past wrongs onto all their brothers so they remember those past sins as their own

[dusk patrol]

@arctic talon @storm jungle

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-child-truly-wonderful-wonderful-mind-gif-12525097

[arctic talon]

Media literacy fail

of impressive degree

[dusk patrol]

I question if he actually watched it even tbh

[arctic talon]

he watched tiktok clips

[plush mason]

?

[storm jungle]

"wouldnt lose"

Mark was literally gonna die if Eve didnt save him

these people man

[dusk patrol]

If he had tried they both would have died tbh, all he had to do was the knife hand shit once

And even with Eves complete bullshit they barely “kill” him

[pearl brook]

What i like about Mark is, that, despite being super powerful (especially having the potential to be super deadly), despite his name he is not invincible/invulnerable but needs to rely upon his friends. Sends a nice between the lines message of "no matter how strong you are, youre always gonna fare better within a team".

Also shows that his progress is earned through trial and tribulation and not bestowed upon him because the plot/the politics of the writer/the poor character developement demanded so (cough Rey"i wanna be a skywalker" plapatinecough 🤮).

[winter vessel]

you speak Deutsch?

[dusk patrol]

I like it when he punches a big meaty man and the man punches back

[pearl brook]

Unfortunately

[winter vessel]

I took a class in middle school. Wanted to take one in high school but they stopped doing that since the year prior to me being a freshman, the teacher kept getting Nazi jokes thrown at her and quit

[pearl brook]

He got fucking bodied by battlebeast while omniman watched lol

[pearl brook]

You gotta love the american school system. Although bullying teachers is hardly an american phenomenon... Happens at our schools aswell

[winter vessel]

Growing up, learning how to speak German was the only European language that i got invested in. French is just overrated. Maybe I'll pick up Deutsch again in my spare time.

[pearl brook]

Duolingo exist for a reason. You too will bow before - thefirstorder - the almighty owl and learn daily, lest your family be abducted! 🤣🤣

[winter vessel]

Actually for a time I got interested in Russian when German didn't pan out in my secondary language choices. A prerequisite to join my High school Choir was to sing an international language song. so I sang Катюша or 'Katyusha" from the poet Mikhail Isakovsky

[paper haven]

The only reason Conquest got hurt at all is because he didn't crush Eve's head, unless her resurrection bs can fix that too.

[dusk patrol]

The rules it of seem to be if you instantly kill her she can’t come back

Based off this and the comics

[paper haven]

Yeah so I'm calling that a fluke. They didn't win because of skill or strategy, they got lucky.

[dusk patrol]

He didn’t try, he was playing and they lucked out that Eve is Eve

If he was actually just trying to kill Mark he could have done it from the rip

[paper haven]

Which seems to happen a lot with invincible, now that I think about it

[dusk patrol]

People have character flaws

Conquest isn’t sane, he’s here to play

He’s arrogant

[viral halo]

Comics have a lot of weird sexual stuff in them

[dusk patrol]

Even by Viltrumite standards

[paper haven]

Clearly he was holding back

[viral halo]

is Kirman a gooner?

[dusk patrol]

I, really hope they uh

Don’t do some stuff

[paper haven]

I thought it was obvious

[dusk patrol]

Like the entire later stuff with Marks mom, please no

[paper haven]

Most comic artists are gooners, it happens

[dusk patrol]

They’ve done a good job editing it in the show to normal levels

But unironically some of the later comics are like

[viral halo]

I remember there's some wild panels lmao

[dusk patrol]

30% sex or sex jokes

Maybe more

It’s not even mostly in a bad way per se but

[paper haven]

I've only seen snippets of the comics but I know that it can get extremely uncomfortable to read at points

[opaque coyote]

...so apparently Gaben has been playing Stalker

[dusk patrol]

Kirk man can’t write women to save his life

[opaque coyote]

huh

[opaque coyote]

Most?

You mean every

All of them

[paper haven]

I was being optimistic

Leaving room for hope, that sort of thing

[opaque coyote]

To become a comic artist, you need to go to a gooning competition first on god

[dusk patrol]

A lot

But I do think Kirkman is a little better than most

Idk if I’d even say how much everyone is fucking is unrealistic

[paper haven]

There are definitely worse examples

[dusk patrol]

Just kinda, why do we need to constantly be told they’re fucking

[paper haven]

We don't

[dusk patrol]

Like I expect they’re using the bathroom too

And eating and whatever

We don’t need a play by play of it all

[paper haven]

It serves no narrative purpose to show that

[dusk patrol]

Sometimes it does tbf

[viral halo]

Think we need some panels in here to prove it

[dusk patrol]

||Omniman and Debbie it’s literally there to show they’re getting back together||

Spoilers for the comic

[paper haven]

Not much of a spoiler

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/star-gif-16789607377123159596

[paper haven]

Less

[opaque coyote]

Kirkman loves drawing Eve naked istg

[viral halo]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[dusk patrol]

This is a running joke the like

Last half of the comic

Also big spoilers to be clear

[opaque coyote]

Omni-fuck

[paper haven]

How... Old is Eve in this?

[dusk patrol]

20s?

[opaque coyote]

Like 20

[paper haven]

Alright

[untold niche]

what

[dusk patrol]

There’s a lot of time jumps

I think by that panel

[opaque coyote]

Yup

[dusk patrol]

She’s like mid 20s

[untold niche]

Nice 40k discussion here eh?

[opaque coyote]

Yup

[dusk patrol]

This relates to 40k because people fuck in 40k too

[opaque coyote]

We're talking about the new tabletop faction, Viltrumites

[paper haven]

Sex? In my grimdark setting?

More likely than you'd think.

[arctic talon]

Would you use this hand dryer

[languid meadow]

staring into the eyes of a servo skull while on the toilet

[opaque coyote]

"BROTHER, I AM PINNED HERE"

https://tenor.com/view/lave-lingue-wash-machine-machine-a-laver-destroying-gif-10826328646164153001

[opaque coyote]

What the fuck is the point of the servo skull there

Acting like a mini computer for the sensor?

[untold niche]

have you seen mr bean with dryer

[sacred ginkgo]

Probably some idiot who slapped it or something to get it to work

[opaque coyote]

Imagine being honored enough to be turned into a Servo Skull

Only to watch from the warp, as your soul disappears back into the fabric of the universe

[untold niche]

https://youtu.be/UwOCaCrRRTk?si=RvjmgCcP7sQlb7ru me

[opaque coyote]

Your fucking skull being used as a god damn hand dryer

Honored my ass

[sacred ginkgo]

Not even one of the buttons for Tertium’s horrifically lethal doors

[untold niche]

mr bean

[opaque coyote]

Honestly

I had the idea of like

[arctic talon]

It’s prolly a cogitator

And the skull is ornamental

[opaque coyote]

External gaming PCs in the Imperium.

But a Servitor is a part of it

Yes it was for a comedy fic

[dusk patrol]

Most servo skull things aren’t like

Actually using brain matter

Rarely some do but it’s not a servitor still really

[opaque coyote]

That's probably why they're honored.

You're allowed to actually rest

Your "duty" is done

[plush mason]

only in death does duty end

[opaque coyote]

You are ""with the Emperor"" (probably used as some random daemon's snack)

Wonder what happens when Blanks die. Although that's probably the mystery

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-noted-glorp-noted-glorp-noting-this-down-alien-cat-gif-11958671377507601335

[plush mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VYa3pHhRc4

have some more brain rot

[opaque coyote]

glorp

[pearl brook]

Lol that shit is steamy lol

[terse kestrel]

is this authentic kasrkin

[dusk patrol]

Stripped down a bit

But yeah

No mask and some armor missing

[terse kestrel]

Is there even a better helmet?

[winter vessel]

I just slapped my Scion helmet on it to make due with it.

[dusk patrol]

No

[dapper gyro]

It is heavier troop or Vet troop at best, not Kasrkin.

[dusk patrol]

It just doesn’t have the mask

It’s just stripped down Kasrkin armor

[dapper gyro]

They do have the helmet model, but it is not even on Vet, lol.

[dusk patrol]

There’s a reason people weren’t happy with this armor when it came out

[crystal forum]

he is taunting me

[paper haven]

Was the red circle really necessary?

[storm jungle]

every time i feel like im being harsh against Luetin's vids he posts shit like this lol

[crystal forum]

i will always see valhallans

in my proxy army

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/youll-never-see-me-again-allison-ponthier-faking-my-own-death-you-wont-see-me-anymore-you-wont-be-seeing-me-gif-22668389

Something something fight for yooooouuuu

[crystal forum]

his videos have definitely gone down in quality lately

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

Absolutely lol

[storm jungle]

Wait really

[arctic talon]

Also he’s wrong because they literally got new lore this codex lmao

[crystal forum]

it's sad he introduced me to the setting

[dusk patrol]

He likes money, can’t blame him

Tbh too

I wouldn’t write off any old regiments with models

[arctic talon]

He’s making more slop content

[dusk patrol]

We’ll probably get killteams at least

[arctic talon]

But he does still make good videos

There’s just more slop inbetween

[storm jungle]

Lol fair

[arctic talon]

Yeah ultimately someone needs to fill the vet guard killteam niche

Rn it’s krieg

It’ll prolly go onto someone else

[storm jungle]

I used to like him once but he kinda fell off for me after his speculation videos.

[crystal forum]

KRIEEEEG

[dusk patrol]

They’re almost certainly using killteams to gauge if regiments are popular enough to get a larger release too

[storm jungle]

Also this yeah

its why Krieg dominated the I.G codex this year

[arctic talon]

Tbh every killteam so far has hold like hotcakes

[storm jungle]

as much as it pains me to see it

[dusk patrol]

Anyways here’s why Mordian is definitely getting a full release

[crystal forum]

also the clear massive amount of people who love krieg

[storm jungle]

alas

we cant all have good taste

[dusk patrol]

GW likes money

[arctic talon]

Steel legion when

[dusk patrol]

This vexes people

[storm jungle]

I mean no it isnt even about GW

its about braindead fanbase

but still

[dusk patrol]

Yeah they should buy real kino

Like Gloop Shitto

[storm jungle]

I wouldnt mind it but like it reached a level where i remember the KT reveal

where the chat was like

"WHERE SHOVEL"

jesus christ

[median star]

maccabians when

[storm jungle]

lol

[crystal forum]

krieg fans are special

[dusk patrol]

Now this is the real pipe dream

[crystal forum]

dumber than black templar fans but slightly less racist

[dusk patrol]

That being said I would love it

[storm jungle]

LOL

But yeah the other regiments will drip-drop gradually with KT

its pretty obvious

Catachan are prob next on hte block at some point

[dusk patrol]

GW would feed families for generations with a Crimson Guard release

[crystal forum]

tf is crimson guard

[median star]

irons hands now maccabians starting to think ur the evil version of me

[dusk patrol]

Better than your stupid space Russians

That’s who

https://tenor.com/view/miyamoto-chris-pratt-san-he's-so-cool-he's-so-gif-4276221900741923469

[crystal forum]

literally cheap skitarii

[dusk patrol]

“Cheap”

[crystal forum]

just proxy admec

[storm jungle]

they are my favorite lego army

[dusk patrol]

Yeah you’re right just slap some Ushankas and bad accents on those Cadians

Well say they’re uh

Valhallans I guess

[crystal forum]

eternal i print my full custom models

[dusk patrol]

Fuzzy hat for the better space Russians

[crystal forum]

because i have balls

[dusk patrol]

I mean also you have to smh

[median star]

basically what that regiment was that they released slop for few weeks ago

[arctic talon]

Ngl the crimson guard are always weird to me, they literally are just skitarii lol

[crystal forum]

i could buy originals

[dusk patrol]

(I like Valhallans tbf)

[arctic talon]

Regarding their position within the machine cult

[storm jungle]

they were from an era where Skitarii wasnt even exactly a thing

[dusk patrol]

Yeah but those suck

[storm jungle]

I got an even worse example of it

hold on

[crystal forum]

they do look shitty

[arctic talon]

Well they still mention skitarii legions

And that the skitarii legions got got

Lol

[crystal forum]

my proxy army is so good

i posted images before that nobody appreicates

[dusk patrol]

They’re special snowflakes cause everything Blign and FFG did are special snowflakes

[storm jungle]

one of the most horrifying images ever

[dusk patrol]

It was just cool

[arctic talon]

And the remnants were formed into the initial crimson guard

[dusk patrol]

Lathe Worlds are

[arctic talon]

What edition is this

Lmfao

[dusk patrol]

Completely stupid OC donut steal

[median star]

are iron hand surfs discernable from skitarii

[storm jungle]

I cant remember but like very old mid-2000's

[dusk patrol]

But it’s cool so I don’t care

[arctic talon]

Yes

[dusk patrol]

Not really one sec

[arctic talon]

Well

Martian standard

But take away the robes

[storm jungle]

Also this is like 95% of 40k

its fine

[arctic talon]

And symbols

[arctic talon]

There’s a level of Donut steel imo

That shouldn’t be crossed

[dapper gyro]

Why is this dude looks so human?

[arctic talon]

The lathe worlds are like

[dusk patrol]

Iron Hands have Medusan Auxilia

Exerpts are from Wrath of Iron

Siirt knew enough then to guess that something serious had taken place, and had time to regret the fact that the entire Adeptus Astartes capability of Clan Raukaan was deployed in theatre. The clan’s seven Dreadnoughts in hibernation aboard the Kalach would take days to summon, as they had never been intended for on-world deployment. The command complex was full of Medusan auxiliaria, many of whom had bio-enhancements and augmetics on a parallel with skitarii, though if the Mechanicus vessel were powerful enough to interfere with the defence grid remotely there was no telling whether that force would be nearly enough to hold the complex.

And a separate passage later....

As he moved down to the reception levels, the two squads of thralls he’d requested fell in behind him. They were all dressed in matt-black carapace armour with blank visors and angular shoulder guards. Each trooper carried a heavy-gauge lasgun and had steel augmetic traces littered across their battle-plate.

They were all Medusan, all battle-hardened, and all heavily altered by the tech-chirurgeons. In normal circumstances, such soldiers would have been capable of taking on virtually anything. In normal circumstances, Siirt would have trusted them to keep him alive for a very long time.

[arctic talon]

Almost over it

[storm jungle]

old edition

[dusk patrol]

Wall of text warning

[dusk patrol]

Because Skitarii have a lot of variance, we just have a baseline model we see now

[storm jungle]

it isnt even variance

[dusk patrol]

Some are described as being more enhanced guard

[storm jungle]

these are just not-guardsman

[arctic talon]

^

[storm jungle]

it was back when skitarii were just not well established

[dusk patrol]

We see some are tribal crazy dudes

[arctic talon]

I’m sure some super poor world

Has not guardsmen

[storm jungle]

you get a metal hand

now you are a skitarii good job

[arctic talon]

They still have augmentics out the ass

Tbf

[storm jungle]

also this yeah

[dusk patrol]

Yeah but that’s my point

[storm jungle]

theres no "regular dude" skitarii

[arctic talon]

That dude is just a dude

[storm jungle]

this was back when they just found the word cool

but did nothing with it

until like way later

[arctic talon]

Anyways uh GW

Kill that image

Forever

[dusk patrol]

We literally can’t even see most his body

[arctic talon]

He has disgusting meat hands

[median star]

so arguably better then skitarii armor wise or do skitarii also usually employ carapace

[arctic talon]

Martian standard Skitarii have skitarii warplate

Which is better the carapace

[storm jungle]

Its very funny, im glad i keep it around

[arctic talon]

But worse then power armor

[dapper gyro]

Anything depending on the front

[dusk patrol]

Below probably

At least wargear wise, not clear how good their other stuff is

[median star]

seems to be a ton of armors that fall in-between worse then ceramite but noticable better then carapace

[dusk patrol]

Carapace armor for normies isn’t exactly one consistent thing either

[dapper gyro]

There are non elite guardsmen with carapace, the equipment varies greatly.

[dusk patrol]

It can be thicker or lighter or better made

[storm jungle]

armor material in 40k works at the whim of the plot so its not that big of a deal

[dusk patrol]

More systems and whatever

[storm jungle]

a character can be wearing the most strongarmorium ever then get shit on by like a tank driving over him

[jade holly]

When we getting the crab people legion

[gray umbra]

40k in general is just rule of cool lol

[jade holly]

[storm jungle]

that too lol

terminators are probably the best example

[gray umbra]

we can go into the specs but then some book will introduce these super hardened stormtrooper veterans

and then they get fucking annihilated