40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

the plot

😭

[dusk patrol]

That’s what I’m there for

[crystal forum]

character progression

[forest orbit]

Invincible in a nutshell

just uh replace the hot lady with some ugly dude

[vagrant fox]

I exclusively watch gachi wrestling for the plot

[forest orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/anissa-invincible-fight-punch-gif-4100011624498742159

[storm jungle]

dumbass

[vagrant fox]

who was she again

[storm jungle]

Random Viltrumite, Anissa

she has a bigger role later

[crystal forum]

hey that cruise ship is polluting the beach

[forest orbit]

[storm jungle]

HES BUSY

[vagrant fox]

speaking of gay, it's time to rewatch hellsing. Gotta feel that edge once again

[crystal forum]

this is why jessy pinkman is angry

[storm jungle]

Edge or edging?

[vagrant fox]

Both, why not

[dusk patrol]

She and Mark get physical again

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/seras-victoria-hellsing-hellsing-ultimate-anime-anime-girl-gif-871672513231272730

[storm jungle]

Guh- 💀

[vagrant fox]

no the other one is better, the one who smokes

[arctic talon]

why is her coat like this

[forest orbit]

Integra is goated

[dusk patrol]

I wonder how they’re gonna do that ngl

[crystal forum]

post the cute twink catboy nazi

[storm jungle]

Id say same as the comic tbh

like-

i cant imagine any other way

just censored shots/distance views etc

[dusk patrol]

Mark can’t even win when he’s getting laid

Smh

[storm jungle]

soundwork is prob gonna do the heavy lifting

[vagrant fox]

the author of the manga used to just draw hentais, before switching. Most likely why

[forest orbit]

^

[arctic talon]

thats normal

[crystal forum]

this is amazon they'll show the tits

[forest orbit]

Its also why uh

[arctic talon]

for mangaka

like not even a joke

[forest orbit]

Schrodinger is a femboy catboy in a hitler youth outfit

💀

[arctic talon]

incredible

[crystal forum]

yes i want him

[storm jungle]

Thanks for reminding me

[vagrant fox]

What's not to like

It's just grimdank but better

[forest orbit]

something-something imagine me posting the black templar killing furries gif idk

[storm jungle]

STOP THIS

[crystal forum]

the more fucked up the femboy the better the fuck

[forest orbit]

HES LITERALLY

A FUCKING NAZI

[storm jungle]

[forest orbit]

YOU CANT DO THIS

AND SAY THIS

[vagrant fox]

Everyone's a nazi these days it's fine

[arctic talon]

Jay "I could fix him"

💀

bro

[crystal forum]

does topping a nazi not count as a win for democracy

[forest orbit]

Nah bruh this guy has lost it, he is NOT cooking

[vagrant fox]

he's cooking let him cook

[forest orbit]

my jewish ancestors are screaming rn

GOYIM

🗣️

[dusk patrol]

Damn the hard G

[vagrant fox]

straight up, dracula tho 👀

[forest orbit]

It had to be said

[storm jungle]

castlevania one is better

[crystal forum]

can't believe the standards these days

[storm jungle]

we dont have any but we gotta have some

[vagrant fox]

same thing

[crystal forum]

cant even fuck a femboy catboy nazi

[storm jungle]

f-

fucking-

NO

ITS NOT

[vagrant fox]

in what world

[dusk patrol]

I would be kinda hot fucking a Nazi girl ngl

[forest orbit]

Depends

[crystal forum]

yes you would be a hot girl

[forest orbit]

she needs to put on those black uniforms

then maybe ill be convinced

[arctic talon]

actually I forgot nazis liked east asia

nvm

[dusk patrol]

“Oh yeah let’s ruin the master race together”

[storm jungle]

LOL

wolfenstein ahh scene idea

[crystal forum]

they love japan

[forest orbit]

didnt new colossus have like

[arctic talon]

they also gave the Chinese nationalists a fuck ton of guns pre Japan alliance

lol

[forest orbit]

a fat nazi chick get fucked by bombate

[vagrant fox]

Friendly rivalry for who could be the worst, it brings out the best in them

[storm jungle]

yes lol

Sigrun

[crystal forum]

everybody did

[arctic talon]

yes they do

[dusk patrol]

I could be a Blazkowitz in the streets, Terror Billy in the sheets

[crystal forum]

chinese had all the equipment

[arctic talon]

yeah

[crystal forum]

every country

[arctic talon]

its funny

Chinese nationalist arsenal logistics

giving some poor paper pusher a stroke

[vagrant fox]

Every calibre under the sun being used in the same army, blessed logistics

[dusk patrol]

Who are you and what are you here for?

“BJ, and BJ.”

Damn I should write porn

This is gold

[arctic talon]

LOL

[forest orbit]

Thats like

a naked gun tier joke

jesus christ

"Nice beaver."

"Thanks I just had it stuffed"

[dusk patrol]

So it’s amazing thank you

[forest orbit]

💀

Fuck, you got me

[dusk patrol]

So only

Five hours

Til

[crystal forum]

germans talk gay already so i dont have to do much

[forest orbit]

Yeah Dil has a point

Im gonna fucking sleep

i cant wait that long

im gonna die otherwise

that fucking episode better be up when im up

[dusk patrol]

It got delayed because Bezos decreed it

[crystal forum]

i hate that it will happen during my morning

[dusk patrol]

Only he gets to watch

[forest orbit]

arAsaGGHGHGH

[arctic talon]

bezos's worm is not standing ready

smh

[forest orbit]

👆

[crystal forum]

wolf what is the worm joke

im getting scared

[forest orbit]

Its Conquest's line

"Stand ready for my arrival worm."

[arctic talon]

have you watched episode 7?

[crystal forum]

yes

[forest orbit]

he did

[arctic talon]

"stand ready for my arrival worm"

thats it

[forest orbit]

[arctic talon]

my worm is standing ready

for his arrival

[crystal forum]

sounds sexual

[arctic talon]

thats the point yes

[crystal forum]

ah good

i knew i could count on you

[dusk patrol]

In the Viltrumite empire they have escalation courses

[tall plinth]

Hey 40K-Lore-chat peeps, what’s some cool warhammer 40k inspired names for an orange tabby

I have a few ideas I just wanna see what others can come up with

[rose thorn]

Any primach tbh

But ihhh, I would like to recommend basically every HH character

They ahve wonderful names

Lorgar sounds good

[crystal forum]

garviel

the HH space marine

[arctic talon]

I’ve seen a lot of cats called magnus

Like

5+

[rose thorn]

Also, may I suggest AOS’ Krondys

I call him krondy

[tall plinth]

Magnus was definitely one of the ones I came up with yeah, cuz yknow

[tough haven]

Clodde

Actually Baggit

[rose thorn]

How does homebrew lore work in terms of HH?

[green loom]

Greyfax has a nice ring to it I think

[vagrant fox]

Squig

[green loom]

Although, orange

[crystal forum]

it has to be space marine related basically

[green loom]

Doesn't necessarily have to be

[rose thorn]

A YouTuber I like is talking about this horus heresy army for a narrative campaign

[green loom]

Since Mech and Militia

But

You'd be playing mech and militia

[rose thorn]

‘The wolves of Horus’

[green loom]

Or solar aux too actually I forgot

[crystal forum]

that's a confusing name

[green loom]

The Legions' companies tend to develop mild personalities or turn into pseudo independent warbands

[crystal forum]

luna wolves or sons of horus

pick one

not both

[rose thorn]

Ohhhh

[green loom]

Usually based around whoever is leading them

[rose thorn]

How large are companies??

[green loom]

There's also blackshields

[crystal forum]

very large

legions are entire armies

dont think of them as 40k space marines

[dusk patrol]

Autek Mor

[tall plinth]

Oh I like that one

[arctic talon]

LOL

[arctic talon]

Marines or you’re mechanicum/Solar auxilia/militia

Most stuff is marine centric

Solar auxilia + imperial army/navy kind of limited

[rose thorn]

I could just do knights for imperialis tbh

[arctic talon]

Militia very diverse

Knights fall entirely under questor mechanicum

Ironically

It’s so weird

[rose thorn]

I was mainly asking for an idea of a lore reason for a dread focused kahan list

[arctic talon]

Ah

[rose thorn]

The only thing that came to mind was like, a company that planned to betray khan, stopped last second and are hyper ashamed of themselves

For imperialis

But I shoudl do a knight house tbh

Maybe this is how I can express my love for knights

[crystal forum]

so they made themselves into dreads?

[rose thorn]

Yeah, termites, dreads, the slow stuff

[crystal forum]

that's an interesting choice of chapter and unit type

[rose thorn]

There is a unit that’s specifically white scars in termites trying regain their honors

termies

[spare osprey]

replayin rogue trader, noticed that the ship's lead firefighter's name is Monteg

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-you-are-cat-sus-suspicious-cat-side-eye-cat-meme-gif-11842087146493734807

[green loom]

French?

[spare osprey]

well

in a simple way yes

BUT

i'm 100% certain he's a Fahrenheit 451 reference

of which the main character is named Guy Montag

who is also a firefighter

[opaque coyote]

Alorynis

[rose thorn]

Need someone good with ork names opinion on a name

[queen laurel]

i have been summoned

what you need

[rose thorn]

Need to name my kruleboyz boss

Iggaka? the king taker

Iggak

I’m too soft to make good guttural names

[queen laurel]

Gutkrak Da Crown taka

[rose thorn]

Kruleboyz don’t really use Cs is the thing

[opaque coyote]

Throne Krusha?

[queen laurel]

to be fair it's like a very ork thing in warhammer to replace the C with

Gutkrak Da krown taka

would be the result of that

[rose thorn]

He is the boss of my kruleboyz clan, midnite man snatchas, who is absolutely obsessed with kidnapping and enslaving politically powerful people

[queen laurel]

Boggrak Da Lord Hunta

[rose thorn]

Not sure about hunta, also the kruleboyz name maker is pretty trash lol

[queen laurel]

hmm

[queen laurel]

what's his most distinguishing feature

Like physically speaking

[rose thorn]

His armor made of pieces of crowns, I do like krown taka tbh

[queen laurel]

Groldrut Kingbreaka?

[winter vessel]

Deffbreff is a funny choice

[rose thorn]

Is it liked death breath?

[queen laurel]

yes

[rose thorn]

Ah

[queen laurel]

deff guns literally translate to death guns

[winter vessel]

Yeah. Another name my Aunt chef refers to people with garlic breath

[rose thorn]

Here’s their other one btw

Weird sprakk is in here

Since we have gobsprakk

[winter vessel]

Drowna 😂

[queen laurel]

it does fit orruk naming conventions

[winter vessel]

“Grotkicker”. Wonder what he does

[queen laurel]

i actually use another website for this

For iron jawz

[winter vessel]

I find Tau naming conventions to be complex

[rose thorn]

Ironjawz seem to use alot more Zs and kruleboyz use more double Ks

[rose thorn]

Yeah it’s something I never even bothered understanding

[tall plinth]

oh shit I completely forgot about orky names

[winter vessel]

They connect it with a caste they are in and then their name

[tall plinth]

hmmm

[queen laurel]

I use this one for iron jaws but with a bit of modification I can make it work with like just about any orruk

[rose thorn]

What’s in ulgu names?

[queen laurel]

it's very simple but you can just like modify these

[rose thorn]

Durgrakk kingbreaka?

Oh triple K

Whoops

[queen laurel]

yeah that's it

no it can work trust me

[rose thorn]

Yeah vut kkk with the slave obsessed orks doesn’t sound great

[queen laurel]

as long they can scream it at the top of their lungs like in Guttural volume

DURGRAKK KINGBREAKA

but you can if you don't want it just change it

[rose thorn]

My mouth does foam when I say it out loud

[queen laurel]

just keep the surname kingbreaka

[rose thorn]

I’ll test that name out

Durgrakk Kingbreaka, Boss of the Midnite Man Snatchas

[queen laurel]

Yeah it works if anything anyone who points out the triple K angle is the weird one

Why would you go out of your way to really point something insignificant in your life

[opaque coyote]

...I really want to make a joke rn.

Anyways I don't think people will

care

like

it's not like the first and last names are smashed together y'know

[queen laurel]

yeah

[rose thorn]

Snagga of kings, taka of saints, steala of bosses

[queen laurel]

And again anyone that actually cares about that type of stuff is an absolute weirdo

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[opaque coyote]

If somebody points it out for any reason

Just say it means the Kool Kids Klub

[queen laurel]

Yeah that's good tittles

[rose thorn]

Any git worth knowin fears his klaw

His main hobby is forcing people of great political power work difficult meaningless tasks until they mentally snap

[queen laurel]

damn that is krule

[rose thorn]

Best part about orruks is you don’t need a back story for their obseenly insane personality traits

[opaque coyote]

...so politics

[dusk patrol]

True tbh

“He banged his head one day and now he’s like this”

Literally like

Half the backstories of all greenskin leaders in GW fiction

[dapper gyro]

Me irl

[dusk patrol]

I wish banging my head gave me a drive to lead a massive army on a genocidal campaign of death and destruction

[dapper gyro]

Bang harder

[queen laurel]

This is the most apparent on like warhammer fantasy orcs

at least now they mostly do something else

But once in awhile you will get the old reliable storytelling of accidents make you into a monster

[dusk patrol]

Oruuks have slightly more

Actual goals

[queen laurel]

well The thing is with like the three orc types of GW

Is that you can genuinely just boil down all of their motives to just a really really big fight

[green loom]

Their goal is outright stated by whatshisface

[queen laurel]

Gordrakk

march across the realms thump it down and march again

[green loom]

I think summed up nicely with the phrase "the only point of a tower is to knock it down"

[queen laurel]

Turn it into a wild place where the strong feed on the weak

and battle is a constant part of life

[arctic talon]

I do not like house medarda's rendition of the Noxus crest it looks cursed

[queen laurel]

Can you show me what a normal noxus crest looks like

[queen laurel]

Yeah i can see it it looks a bit too

Missing something

[arctic talon]

the blades are too angular

for the medarda rendition of the crest

it also looks like a human

or humanoid rather

fun to see it has the house medarda crest in it

[queen laurel]

Yeah it looks like the head of a switch axe

[queen laurel]

family is such a great thing

[dusk patrol]

Gentlemen, it is with much gladness I am here to inform you that it is almost an hour and a half until

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-invincible-bald-gauntlet-comics-gif-6370990461093599888

[dusk patrol]

God he’s so cool.

[arctic talon]

This is where all the budget went

[dusk patrol]

Oh 1000%

You can tell then went “Ok Marks Episode will be 30%, last episode will be 60%

[languid meadow]

This shit is cinema holy shit

[dusk patrol]

They do him so much justice goddamn

[arctic talon]

Also I’m loving the conquest voice more and more

[dusk patrol]

It’s perfect tbh

He’s so sinister

[arctic talon]

JDM nails it

[dusk patrol]

This time ||Glenn killed Negan ||

It’s unironically like a even more sinister version of the Glenn and Negan scene

[shadow plover]

Every day I wake up, you all talk about fucking Invincible here

https://tenor.com/view/every-day-every-day-i-wake-up-i-wake-up-marriage-story-marriage-story-wake-up-gif-19948669

[dusk patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-conquest-conquests-arrival-invincible-conquest-gif-10571445904837642120

[arctic talon]

Also I like what they added

[dusk patrol]

Last episode for awhile

[arctic talon]

Tbh

The show somehow made it better

[dusk patrol]

What did they add, I can’t recall how it goes in the comic exactly

The extra stuff with Conquest?

[arctic talon]

||oliver getting pulled apart, Conquest’s entire rant whispering to Mark is new and just added talking tbh||

[dusk patrol]

Yeah I thought that was it.

I didn’t recall ||the bit about him being lonely and all that||

[queen laurel]

|| man i sure hope a certain government agent won't do anything funny in the future||

[dusk patrol]

I liked how Eve used her powers creatively once and then never again

[arctic talon]

They ran out of budget/hj

[dusk patrol]

I would really like them to go into

||How they reset Marks bones.||

[arctic talon]

It honestly ||makes him even more terrifying even if it makes him marginally more sympathetic||

[dusk patrol]

Yeah

||The idea that the other Viltrumites fear him||

||He’s not just maybe the most dangerous Viltrumite they only beat cause completely overpowered Eve but he’s unhinged and a loose cannon||

||Curious where they’ll go with to||

[arctic talon]

||I interpreted it that he wasn’t unhinged and a loose cannon, he acts like this and does all this as his own choice. He genuinely enjoyed it from the start||

[queen laurel]

||When he pulled that I want you to struggle line, he wanted all the smoke||

[dusk patrol]

||Yeah but I mean he’s considered sadistic and crazy even by Viltrumite standards||

||Even they think he goes too far or is kinda fucked up||

[dapper gyro]

Holy fuck the CIA takes over lore chat.

[queen laurel]

This guy willingly pulled up to a planet and even said it himself bar for bar no lies

he wants to drive your head straight through the concrete with no biscuit

[dusk patrol]

The only reason he lost is he wanted to have fun, he could have just instantly killed everyone without any issues

And even then

||Atom Eve being completely batshit overpowered was the only thing that stopped him, and that even barely did it ||

That all being said, Mark ffs learn to take the fight away from cities

[queen laurel]

i mean let's be honest she is basically a Green Lantern that doesn't have a ring

[dusk patrol]

He wasn’t even trying

She’s more like

Idk plastic man?

Or like

Sentry?

[queen laurel]

I mean what was he gonna do

[dusk patrol]

She just uses her powers like a lantern for no reason

[queen laurel]

this is conquest

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/twd-gif-7632333

[dusk patrol]

He could try a little more is all I’m saying

[languid meadow]

Kind of crazy how it was just this again

[queen laurel]

Trying to run away from this guy will probably just make him chase you for fun and drive you to the dirt

[dusk patrol]

I gotta read the comics now tbh

It’s been a long time

[arctic talon]

What the fuck is that a reference to ||spawn at the end||

[dapper gyro]

Eve is not good at using her power until near the end of the comic.

She is very busted after that.

[dusk patrol]

||That or Darkwing||?

[languid meadow]

the whole ||air thing she did was cool asf||

[dusk patrol]

You can spoiler major spoilers you know

I’m aware of it already but you know. A lot of people won’t be.

[arctic talon]

Could be

[dusk patrol]

Anyways I want this part as a gif stat

[languid meadow]

JDM really did bring him to life holy shit

[dusk patrol]

He’s perfect

[languid meadow]

But I kept hearing Negan lmao

[dusk patrol]

He makes him soooo much more sinister

[arctic talon]

I don’t hear negan ngl

But I didn’t watch all of walking dead lol

[languid meadow]

it doesn't help that both mark and conquest are played by TWD actors

[dapper gyro]

I'm very unhinged with spoilers so it is better for me to keep it vague.

[dusk patrol]

He’s definitely leaning into that a little bit

[dusk patrol]

Or just spoiler them

It’s not vague

You just spelled it out lol

[arctic talon]

Ngl the casting choice might have been intentional

For conquest

[dusk patrol]

Same guy who made the Walking Dead is doing this iirc

[dapper gyro]

Ok well

[languid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/negan-glenn-walkingdead-thewalkingdead-twd-gif-23173994

[dusk patrol]

They should have given him a bat

[dapper gyro]

||As long as you are not dead, Eve can revive you. She can also make people stronger by doing that. She can make people explode. She is pretty much immortal as well.||

[dusk patrol]

||I’m not talking about that, I just mean spoiler what happens by the end with her, but whatever||

[dapper gyro]

It is like the power of all SoS saint together.

[dusk patrol]

She’s completely broken as fuck

To the point where the writers just kinda make her stupid half the time so the plot can happen

The mental block does some of the work

[dapper gyro]

||She dies of old age, but her power kick in so it returns her to her peak shape.||

However, one cannot know about that until they actually die for the 1st time.

[dusk patrol]

I feel like you’re missing my point, I’m just saying don’t say stuff about the very end like the above, I don’t need you tell me what I mostly know

I’ve read the stuff

[dapper gyro]

Im confused...

Oh well...

Time out for me.

[dusk patrol]

I literally just said to spoiler this

Cause it’s a big spoiler for people who haven’t read it lol

That’s it. I don’t need the info, I read it awhile ago and I don’t recall all the details but most of the major beats

[opaque coyote]

Spoilers!!!

Mark becomes Invincible

[dusk patrol]

Mark once again not living up to his name

He is quite Vincible

[shadow plover]

maybe he should be named markible

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-fire-fnaf-3-ending-hospital-disaster-gif-1976739374427047349

[opaque coyote]

Seriously though ||the episode where Eve basically fought against her fucked up bio family was... well... fucked||

[dusk patrol]

He is Remarkable at least

[dapper gyro]

Mark is Amazing though.

[dusk patrol]

@arctic talon do you know what comic I can skip to to reach this point

[opaque coyote]

Mr. Holdsbackman

[dusk patrol]

I don’t wanna Google it cause, Google is had at telling things

[opaque coyote]

Man can survive punches from his own dad but also gets beaten by people that are less stronger than he is

[dusk patrol]

Well his dad was holding back

[opaque coyote]

Except the ||Asian Dragon dude||. He is busted.

[dusk patrol]

Also there’s stuff on earth that could kill his dad still

They’re capable of killing Viltrumites

[opaque coyote]

Yeah ||that's probably why there's only mostly evil Marks. All the good ones got murdered by their dad.||

||Or just died due to something else.||

[arctic talon]

Issue 66 is the stuff after this episode

[dusk patrol]

Also arguably Nolan was maybe better at indoctrinating Mark in the other universes

Starting earlier

[opaque coyote]

||Honestly think it's mostly Omni Man if only because it would be fucking stupid if Mark died by some random thug or something||

[dusk patrol]

Mark probably got his powers earlier in some universes too

[opaque coyote]

I think generally it's either

A) Omni-Man beated them into submission

B) Got powers earlier and became worse because of it.

C) Debbie either supported Omni-Man, or just didn't exist and therefore didn't give Mark that human influence

[dusk patrol]

Debbie has to exist

[opaque coyote]

It's kinda wild that technically our Mark is like... basically the universe where a villain is good. That every comic multiverse has.

[dusk patrol]

Imo it seems more likely he just did a better job raising him as a Viltrumite in the other universes we see

[arctic talon]

Not really

It’s just that good marks tend to fucking die

[opaque coyote]

I think some of the more regretful variants probably joined because they felt like they didn't really have a choice.

While the more sadistic ones kinda joined because they were raised a Viltrumite, and think that splitting people in half is cool

[arctic talon]

To a variety of things

[opaque coyote]

Although I wonder how tf did Omni Mark happen.

Man somehow killed his dad

And didn't ||fucking die to a yoyo|| this time

[arctic talon]

[opaque coyote]

I do hope they do more with the Invincible variants than they did in the comic.

||because ngl having most except two of them die by eating each other is kinda lame||

...

You think Sinister Mark would like chicken fingers

[dusky scroll]

I was told that 99.9% of the resources of chaos gods are spent between themselves. In their squabbling.

Do Chaos Primarchs face against each other? Either in battle or for conversation or something?

[opaque coyote]

Most of them kinda do their own thing

[arctic talon]

They do fight each other in the warp

But they’re more trophies

Then active combatants in the great game in the warp

Slaanesh pretty much let fulgrim party on his own

[opaque coyote]

Fulgrim is too busy getting high, Mortarion is depressed, Lorgar is aura-farming

What else...

[arctic talon]

Morty was brooding

Magnus did some shit

Angron is a beatstick

[dusky scroll]

Afaik Angron is VERY active right now

[dusk patrol]

We know the daemon primarchs were and are primarily concerned with the great game

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

But after the great rift that has changed

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I think Magnus is the one of the few semi-productive Chaos Primarchs which is funny

[dusk patrol]

And they’re more focused on the galaxy now

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[dusk patrol]

Although they still war

[arctic talon]

With how much easier it is to manifest

I don’t blame them

[dusky scroll]

So they do face each other, but infrequently?

[opaque coyote]

Yeah

[dusk patrol]

We only have a couple examples

We don’t know and frankly

[opaque coyote]

Also the excuse for why you can make war games of them fighting each other

[dusk patrol]

They have plenty of other daemons the other gods have to face

[dusky scroll]

Are there any conversations?

[dusk patrol]

No

[opaque coyote]

No

[dusk patrol]

War of Rust and Ruin is one sorta example

Perturabo vs Mortarion

[dusky scroll]

Are there any Primarch who is not exactly fond of chaos but just was pissed off on Emperor or joined the heresy kinda' against their own will (or just less enthusiastic about it)?

[dusk patrol]

Technically most

But it doesn’t matter

Curze and maybe Alpharius/Omegon whoever are the only ones who didn’t fall

Only Lorgar was really gung ho for it

[arctic talon]

Magnus, and Mortarion didn’t like chaos

Perturabo didn’t give a shit

Until it ruined his moment

And then he stopped caring again

[dusky scroll]

But.... didn't they both became daemon Primarchs for one specific god (each).?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Not like Mortarion had a choice

Magnus did it to get stronger

[dusk patrol]

@arctic talon I uh….forgot how they did…Allen’s girlfriend in the comicszzzz

[arctic talon]

Magnus basically went off the deep end

In regards to

Power

Turns out power is infact power

[dusky scroll]

What about Mortarion (asking because imo his Daemon forms looks the most badass)

[shadow plover]

He was very much against all things warp

then was kinda tricked into becoming a being of the warp

[arctic talon]

He got forced to

It was that or watch all his sons slowly suffer and die

So he chose damnation

Good job typhus

[dusky scroll]

Wow... things sucks even for the Daemon Primarchs!

[dusky scroll]

"Hell doesn't have toilet. I guess it's time to pick permanent diarrhea"

[arctic talon]

Mortarion hates it lol

He’s also on massive cope

[dusky scroll]

I assume at least some of you guys watch 40k lore videos in youtube. How good are the analysis and lore summarization of Isyander & Koda?

[arctic talon]

Uhhh

I’ve never watched either of them

Sorry

[dusky scroll]

that's.... one channel. 2 dudes chatting about stuff

Any channel you'd recommend?

[rose thorn]

BTW they forgot to fix this, you Can use non Slaanesh demons in EC

[opaque coyote]

It's either

Get fucked

Or

Get fucked

Wonder which I should choose...

[dusky scroll]

I was watching 40k videos indiscriminately. But then I learned a few youtubers actually pull "40k lore" out of their ass too.

[rose thorn]

And you might be able to use all Slaanesh demons? Im not sure if they changed the keywords in the EC book

[opaque coyote]

Don't watch Majorkill

[queen laurel]

pancreasnowork and Arbitor Ian

these have a pretty much good consistent track record around here

[opaque coyote]

Hope one day his Pancreas will work

...

Eh maybe when the Eldar gets a definite W

[dusky scroll]

Did watch a few... initially it was somewhat entertaining. Quickly lost interest in unnecessary aussie swearing.

Already love pamcreasnowork

[queen laurel]

Yeah completely avoid him the guy is an idiot

[raven stone]

Krakduk is alright, if you don’t mind the style

It helps the guy is genuinely passionate.

[queen laurel]

Most warhammer you tubers are at least on the mid tier

[opaque coyote]

What do y'all think about Leutin

Good? Bad? Mid?

[queen laurel]

yeah krakduk is a good one

[opaque coyote]

[opaque coyote]

Oh yeah def

[queen laurel]

It can be a good source of lore but his videos are like longer than my patience for you

[arctic talon]

Dry, goes into nerd shit sometimes

[queen laurel]

like my god he

[arctic talon]

Is good

[dusky scroll]

Krakduk is fun. I like the art and his simplication of large incidents and factions

[queen laurel]

Literally drags out videos for so long

[dusky scroll]

My gateway to 40k was 3 videos by Bricky

[queen laurel]

one hour

for 10 fucking ork guns

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[opaque coyote]

Yeah I have the same opinion. I usually only listen to him when I'm like

Doing something else

[queen laurel]

10

[arctic talon]

It’s peak

6 minutes per ork gun

[queen laurel]

again he can be good but his videos are so long it would even put you to sleep

[opaque coyote]

Imagine the stupid ass WatchMojo formula

But an Ork version

'ELLO BOYZ, WELKOME TO WATCHMOJO.COM. TODAY WE'Z GONNA HAVE A LOOK AT THE TOP 10 BEST SHOOTAS-

[dusky scroll]

There's another youtuber named "Arch". Almost no visualization, basically like a radio show. But at least his script sounds better than Majorkill.

[queen laurel]

oh do not

do not

touch that

like do not

[dusky scroll]

Why not?

[queen laurel]

he's a scumbag

so much so that warhammer asked him themselves to remove the warhammer name from his YouTube title

[dusky scroll]

His video on Necromunda and Penal legion was pretty decent.

[arctic talon]

He’s an actual Nazi

[dusky scroll]

wtf... what did he do?

[queen laurel]

like GW themselves

Ask him to get rid of the warhammer on his name

[opaque coyote]

Literally a Nazi

[queen laurel]

Yeah basically what wolf said

[arctic talon]

He’s extremely racist, sexist and an actual Nazi lol

[queen laurel]

yeah that

racist sexist and an actual nazi

[opaque coyote]

Most tolerant Warhammer fan

[arctic talon]

I’d post the infamous

House I’m not saying they word

Clip

But you know

[opaque coyote]

Does Fantasy/AoS have a Nazi problem like 40k or is it less

[arctic talon]

Yes

AoS is the least

But there’s still Nazis

You can’t avoid them

[queen laurel]

It doesn't attract as much as warhammer but there are still some bad fans

[arctic talon]

It’s a part of any hobby tbh

[queen laurel]

It's part of the setting really

[dusky scroll]

Was it something he said in videos or like IRL sympathizer stuff?

[arctic talon]

He literally says the N word like

50 times in a video

[queen laurel]

I really don't know what makes people that have the mental faculties of a neo Nazi like on settings where you paint army men

[arctic talon]

He deleted the video

But you know

He still made it

[queen laurel]

like why why why why specifically there

[arctic talon]

Also he’s said stuff before that is just

Bad

[queen laurel]

yeah he is straight up a scumbag

[arctic talon]

He had a stint where he made several political videos

With uh

Certainly some interesting opinions on people of different ethnicities and religions

[opaque coyote]

Neo Nazi's are militaristic. Like military bullshit.

Warhammer has a lot of that. You get to make your own army even.

Also why HoI3 has them

[queen laurel]

@dusky scroll this is like the image that won't get me shot in here and this is just one

[arctic talon]

Also he just lies so but lore sometimes

Lol

[dusky scroll]

Holy fuck!

[shadow plover]

fake posh brittish accent

[queen laurel]

yeah just like absolutely avoid this guy

[arctic talon]

https://x.com/QuinsberryLodge/status/1269382641012346880?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1269382641012346880|twgr^91a4f716ad4e40563f28ec73d730588a970e10a5|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.lostmediawiki.com%2Fthread%2F5761%2Farch-warhammers-partially-gnoblar-video

MF QUINSBERRY 🇵🇸🇺🇦 (@QuinsberryLodge) on X

Hey, @ArchWarhammer, why did unlist your Gnoblar video? It was up until today and was a top google answer when people googled "Gnoblar" for 3 years. Is this why?

CW: Racism

X · Jun 6, 2020, 9:36 PM

Warning

n word

[opaque coyote]

"Yeah but those pesky human rights"

[arctic talon]

Like

[opaque coyote]

[arctic talon]

Several times

[shadow plover]

a racist nazi who often collabs with the absolute scum of the earth

[arctic talon]

Genuinely a horrible human

As far as I’m aware

[opaque coyote]

Honestly this shit makes me want to unironically encourage GW to make Space Marines gay

Just

Grab a bucket of popcorn

[arctic talon]

We can’t get more homo erotic then early Horus heresy

[opaque coyote]

Watch it all devolve

[queen laurel]

yeah like majorkill is nothing compared to this guy

[opaque coyote]

True

[dusky scroll]

Blood Angels?

[queen laurel]

He is single handedly one of the worst recorded warhammer fans in existence

[opaque coyote]

Mf definitely thinks the Imperium is justified

[dusky scroll]

Imperium isn't racist afaik. If they are, they are racist against all races equally.

[opaque coyote]

Oh nah they are.

[queen laurel]

they are incredibly racist

[opaque coyote]

Mutants are technically a different race

[dusky scroll]

really?

[queen laurel]

they straight up have concentration camps

[dusky scroll]

I thought Guardsmen consist of people of all backgrounds

[queen laurel]

yeah just like small biological quirks on a human is often enough to be ostracized by them

[opaque coyote]

I think a book literally has them describe forcing T'au to walk towards a fucking firepit

[opaque coyote]

Yes.

But that doesn't mean that there isn't discrimination

[queen laurel]

abhumans can be still subject to ridicule

the only reason why they are tolerated is because they are useful

[shadow plover]

I think Jim is referring to racism based on skin colour etc

[opaque coyote]

Voidborn moment

[queen laurel]

oh that

[arctic talon]

Those are abhumans(technically)

[queen laurel]

they are not racist they hate human sense

[opaque coyote]

Don't they literally just have paler skin though?

[queen laurel]

But they are racist on a biological purity sense

[dusky scroll]

Won't abhuman be considered different species?

[arctic talon]

They have some odd physical mutations like black eyes and stuff

But voidborn vary they’re not true abhumans

[opaque coyote]

...

Yeah no that sounds more like a different race tbh

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[dusky scroll]

Like... biological differences are pretty major between Human and let's say Ogryn.

[dusky scroll]

Ah I see!

[opaque coyote]

It's kinda like how there were like

[opaque coyote]

Different human species back then

...ignore the fact that we probably killed them all

Probably. We still don't fully know tbh

[queen laurel]

even ogryns and ratlings which are the most human like in appearance are still heavily ostracized

[opaque coyote]

Also the Ogryns in Darktide are considered fucking geniuses in Ogryn standards

Y'know how toddlers are hard to like

Control

[dusky scroll]

This is kinda' overly nerdy for fictional world- afaik Subspecies' can mate and produce offspring that's not sterile.
I wonder if anyone did the naughty with Ogryns and became a parent.

[opaque coyote]

Okay now imagine that.

But 8 feet tall, with strength to fucking break through a stone wall, and also as durable as said wall.

[opaque coyote]

Regular humans and Ogryns are incompatible in terms of
...

That.

At least as far as we know anyways

[arctic talon]

Explicitly

We know beastmen and voidborn are both abhumans that are either heavily implied to be able to or confirmed to be able to reproduce with humans

Beastmen because of Munda and the fact Gor is heavily implied to be one of Helmwar’s many many many children

And voidborn we just straight up have confirmation they can have babies with normal humans

[queen laurel]

Void born are very sad as a species because they can only exist on environments with the conditions of a ship

[arctic talon]

Well

They can live off of it

They just need to adjust

[opaque coyote]

Also probably need sunglasses

Especially if the planet still has a clear sky

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-smoking-eyes-woah-nope-wtf-gif-15029434

[languid meadow]

Clear sky??????

Holy shit stalker reference

[arctic talon]

Clear sky and imperium don’t tend to mix

Oh also another nail for voidborn being able to have babies with normal humans

If you’re male and romance Kibellah and get the most normal romance ending for her

You have kids

She’s voidborn and this ending slide pops up regardless of your origin

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-kruglov-kruglov-stalker-ok-gif-391588752309643144

It's sad that my computer literally cannot run Stalker 2 atm

I wonder how Duty and Freedom are like

[dusky scroll]

Huh! I always thought abhumans are so evolved that they'd be considered separate species... Like, Homo erectus

Knowledge +10

Separate question, Warp has warp gods. Material worlds never had anything equivalent to that level of powerful entity?
Can Old ones or Ctan be considered that?

[languid meadow]

Yeah C'tan are gods or "gods" I guess of the physical plane

[arctic talon]

C’tan are about as close as a God is

They talk like a duck, quack like a duck and look like one

But they don’t call themselves a duck

[opaque coyote]

Yeah abhumans are a political term

Basically just means

[queen laurel]

What separates a warp God to a physical plane God anyway in warhammer

[opaque coyote]

"mutants that we don't shoot"

(most of the time)

[arctic talon]

Red scorpions

Staring at a voidborn

(They’re going to purge the unclean)

[arctic talon]

Don’t interact with the thing for Realspace stuff

C’tan don’t interact with the warp

[queen laurel]

i see

[dusky scroll]

I was just wondering how Warp gods are so much more powerful compared to anything that ever existed in material plain.

[opaque coyote]

GREATER DAEMON USED WARP POWERS ON C'TAN SHARD

IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!

[languid meadow]

Also C'tan had actual bodies and forms either their weird gaseous or the ones the necrontyr made

While the warp gods are nebulous iirc

Like pure emotion and thought

I need to read fabius book

[dapper gyro]

Real space also has layers with god like being in it, which apparently the ctan come from.

[storm jungle]

They live in a realm that makes no sense or doesnt follow the laws of reality and feed on the souls and energy of countless people

its largely why they are so powerful and why the Warp is their home domain compared to realspace

[raven stone]

Some potentially outdated stuff, but C’tan can be considered to be some sort of sentient star energy like beings before the Necrontyr did…stuff…with them.

[storm jungle]

Nah yeah thats still a thing, its as recent as the 9th edition codex

[raven stone]

Cool, cool. Like a sentient sun, but in gas form, ish. So almost nigh powerful in material world, but still bound by the rules of physics and reality.
Warp entities…yea, they are still warp fuelled by any sentient emotions, so are piss powerful.

[storm jungle]

Warp gods also work on the power of bullshit which helps a lot lol

[raven stone]

For 40k, just remember Warp = IRL Bible’s “Hell”, and yea, you understand why their evil bullshittery has no bounds.

[sharp pollen]

and what is heaven

[raven stone]

there is no heaven well ok maybe the grace of Emperor’s protection in the afterlife, whatever that would look like.

[sharp pollen]

Good Warp

[raven stone]

Other species would have their own heavens analogue.

[storm jungle]

There is none lol

[raven stone]

Unless Orks. Who think being trapped on a Khorne world is the best thing ever. Lol.

[sharp pollen]

Good Warp, with Kind Demons

[storm jungle]

no

[sharp pollen]

they serve you tea

they say "hi"

[storm jungle]

[crisp heath]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6bW4id56dJ8?si=LnAiaj-QoxzBGNLa

[green loom]

Damn Conquest fight

[storm jungle]

I just finished it

holy shit dude

PEAK CINEMA

🗣️

[dusk patrol]

It’s great

I started re reading the comics, I forgot a lot of details

Idk if I even finished them properly

[storm jungle]

Same, i was re-reading the fight issues especially and im so glad they added that little "sad backstory" monologue for him.

||like its very bizarre, odd and creepy, its so well done||

[dusk patrol]

It sets up later motivations better too

Which is why I think they did it

Makes a certain twist less out of left field

[storm jungle]

Yeah I saw someone point that out on why the other Vilts do what they do later post-war stuff which makes it even better

tho even without that context ||i think it works when his final word is "Im gonna kill you now lol"||

its perfectly psychotic lmao

[queen laurel]

|| watching him turn oliver into swiss cheese was funny ||

[storm jungle]

||Bruh that scene when his fucking teeth start falling out was horrific ||

[dusk patrol]

That was legit just disturbing to watch

The whole bit

[storm jungle]

Yeah like it lacks the gore detail of the comics of that scene but man its fucking good

also casually monologuing again while fucking slowly pulling him was 💀

like obvs Oliver wasnt gonna die but it legit made me fear for his life which is very funny, props to the voice actors/sound designers as usual on that one

[queen laurel]

Yeah hopefully in the future a certain funny guy won't do anything funny

[dusk patrol]

JDM fucking nailed him

Made him way more sinister and menacing than the comic

[storm jungle]

^

legit got no idea how like

anyone even said he wasnt fit for the role when all we had as an idea of his performance was like a 30s ending to ep7 lol

[storm jungle]

Space Marine 2 ahhh finisher 😭

[green loom]

Kill

[hallow saddle]

its nearly here

Release day

Its been an agonising 2 weeks

tfw no shipping notification yet

Fuuuuuuck!!!!!!!!!

[shadow plover]

EC?

[hallow saddle]

Yesssa

[shadow plover]

Mine was shipped yesterday

[storm jungle]

A friend of mine got his box from splitting it with a friend already, tho hes in thailand lol

[shadow plover]

Mine's coming from Germany, probably won't be here before next week I recon

[hallow saddle]

Where did you buy it from? I ordered mine from Element so it'll be fine, just worried it'll come Monday and not Saturday cause of the postal service being SHIT

[shadow plover]

Kutami

[hallow saddle]

If it's not here Saturday I'm going to scream

and refuse to get out of bed all weekend

[shadow plover]

Oh I rechecked the notification, it was only registered yesterday so might've not even been sent out yet

[hallow saddle]

I wanna get some fiends of Slaanesh that'd be sick

not particularly urgent tho

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

another for larmoth bingo

[pine wedge]

peter turbo, drag queen

[storm jungle]

thats Horus!!!!

[pine wedge]

no

[shadow plover]

hell yeah, saving this

[spring cairn]

Hoerus

[shadow plover]

The Horus Slaying

[rocky gale]

I’ve also got a goth baddie

[shadow plover]

Hell yeah

[queen laurel]

do you have EVERY primarch?

[rocky gale]

Let me check

All I’ve got

[spare osprey]

Boooooo

[queen laurel]

welp that's great

[spare osprey]

Why no angron

[sharp pollen]

how the fuck are they making series this good for 3 FULLL SEASONS STRAIGHT

[shadow plover]

is season 3 really that good, because season 2 wasn't really good at all

[sharp pollen]

i remember liking it

[storm jungle]

Season 3 is peak

people just dont like S2 because anything with character development stuff is bad

[sharp pollen]

still better than all of the boys...

[storm jungle]

Nah the Boys is good

[spring cairn]

i like when red mist

[spare osprey]

Also

[storm jungle]

they are just on different spectrums

[sharp pollen]

i hate the boys cause its just fyetish media

[hexed orchid]

It had to follow a crazy S1 too. So when it does develop the characters a bit more it seems a bit dull in comparison

Even though the lizard league episode went hard

[spare osprey]

I just wanna say as a guy who made Jefferey dean morgan his warband leader

||take it to your grave||

Was fuckin AMAZING

Loved that dialogue so much

[storm jungle]

Hes so fucking good in this episode

its unbelievable lol

[spare osprey]

And people were talkin so much shit about the voice in the last episode

[storm jungle]

all from like a 40s performance btw

[spare osprey]

Like cmon bruh

[storm jungle]

TV watching audiences are so fucking stupid man

[storm jungle]

Basically this yeah, like Invincible has A LOT of setup for its Arc 1 stuff but then its payoff after payoff

like i said people just cannot put up with anything that isnt non-stop action then they complain when a show doesnt have enough development and too much action

[spare osprey]

Mhm

[spring cairn]

they call him invincible but I have no issues seeing him

[storm jungle]

lame joke

ive seen it like 1000 times

[spring cairn]

you are lame

[spare osprey]

💀

[spring cairn]

and you stink

[storm jungle]

get better material and get out of my office

AUGAGH-

[spare osprey]

I would like to say, another show that’s out right now that I fuckin LOVE

is severance

If any of you have seen that

[storm jungle]

Severance is insanely good

https://tenor.com/view/ignore-severance-john-turturro-irving-b-putting-up-wall-gif-1515427280149202883

[shadow plover]

I prefer less action, but season 2 had just uninteresting things going on for it imo, didn't plan on continuing the series but might check s3 because y'all keep yapping and soying over it so much...

[spare osprey]

I mean the development and twists in that show

So good

https://tenor.com/view/mdr-severnace-milchick-dance-praise-kier-lumon-gif-15019624068630640008

[storm jungle]

"Didnt plan on continuing" bruh get out

me reading takes like this

[shadow plover]

I still might

[storm jungle]

I mean thats your loss

just dont go

"waaah i hate seeing all these invincible scenes/memes popping up"

[spring cairn]

hey

other people can hate popular things, you don't own that concept

[shadow plover]

I'm just tired it being talked for 24/7 on a 40k lore channel

[storm jungle]

I do now

💳

[storm jungle]

yeah because its good

[spare osprey]

Tbf

Is 40k lore like

Ever talked about in here

[storm jungle]

It is

[hexed orchid]

I thought S2 was still solid. And ambers story arc was so much better than S1.

Wild to me that you thought it was so boring you gave up lol

[storm jungle]

but uh

[shadow plover]

I don't mind seeing the memes on other sites where the feed is just whatever

[storm jungle]

we go off-topic a lot

[spare osprey]

A lot a lot lmao

[spring cairn]

how big is a primarch's peanits

[spare osprey]

As big as I need it to be

[storm jungle]

Naw 40k stuff is talked just as much, people just look in here at like the most inconvenient times lol

[shadow plover]

I don't mind the off topic shit when it's just whatever most of the time but when it's basically just one topic all the time it gets tiring

[storm jungle]

yeah but it isnt one topic

like i monitor this channel pretty regularly

Invincible this week got mentioned like... 2 times i think?

well also season finale lol

[spare osprey]

Bros the lore looker

[storm jungle]

real

[shadow plover]

you know that's not true, I wake up every day to see incinvible shit here for the past week

[queen laurel]

yeah we will talk about shit like an African warlord space marine eating someone alive and then go back to saying how Godzilla revolutionized the Renaissance

[shadow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/every-day-every-day-i-wake-up-i-wake-up-marriage-story-marriage-story-wake-up-gif-19948669

[storm jungle]

💀 💀 💀

[storm jungle]

if you cant take the backshots, get out of the kitchen

💪

[spare osprey]

Real

[tulip sand]

Okay what if grendyl is like ravenor and the 'toughness' is actually a psychic shield hes giving us, and thats part of why it replenishes in coherency

[storm jungle]

NO

[spring cairn]

I think we should switch the topic to something actually good

Like nations of islam's lore

[storm jungle]

awful

[shadow plover]

I mean I did watch the full season, but I didn't feel like the next season would be worth watching after it

[storm jungle]

as ever another bad Jerk take

as bad as his call of duty ones

[spring cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/yakub-my-beloved-love-god-creator-gif-2702596065182223786

[pearl brook]

Bruh we bitch about it all the time. Just drop the word "legion" in here and enjoy the ensuing frenzy

[shadow plover]

comparing the two is very apt

slop

[storm jungle]

no

go back to United Offensive nerd

[plush mason]

lmao

[spare osprey]

How do you pronounce Yakub

[shadow plover]

okay fair, Invincible is a lot better than cod

[spare osprey]

Like Jacob right

[spring cairn]

Jakoob

oo

[storm jungle]

^

[spare osprey]

Aw hell nah

[spring cairn]

respect your creator

[spare osprey]

Well I just lost bet

[storm jungle]

yakub is my favorite 40k character

[plush mason]

lmao

[spare osprey]

Actually wait

[spring cairn]

Yakub would be a good 40k character

unironically

[spare osprey]

I can pivot this back to invincible

[spring cairn]

Yakub Levy

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/angstrom-levy-gif-16087996861448056410

[spare osprey]

POOR YAKUB

[queen laurel]

head shape of a raisin this guy

[spring cairn]

never skip neck day

[spare osprey]

Brain all the way down to the ass crack

Is madness

[shadow plover]

I think my biggest issue with invincible is the multiverse shit and that might be because of the oversaturation of it in every fucking thing

[storm jungle]

Yeah FYI Invincible did it before it was ruined by like movie media

so i get the complaint but like its mostly whatever imo

[shadow plover]

Well it was very much present in marvel comics too

[storm jungle]

Yeah but comics

not like the way recent movies do it where its everywhere

[plush mason]

the multiverse is just a stable of super hero comics

[shadow plover]

I thought you were talking about comics

because before

[storm jungle]

AAAA-

[queen laurel]

Yeah besides invincible the only media that I can say did the multiverse very well is like marvel rivals

which allows them to really create unique versions of the characters

[storm jungle]

Rivals is built around it but its also Rivals so automatic trash

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Punisher with massive tits too

[queen laurel]

he is built like a gears of war character

[plush mason]

DC comics literally having several issues dedicated to the 800 million other earths

[storm jungle]

lmao that yeah

multiverse stuff is fine in smaller doses imo

[spring cairn]

the batman who shit in his hand and throw it at people

[storm jungle]

I do hate it but i just accept it when it comes to Marvel/DC

Invincible's verse stuff is like nowhere near as bad imo